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Jack and Jill Politics: ‘The Cost of Silence’ - now it’s the BLACK WOMAN’S fault that White Feminists don’t defend Michelle Obama? HELL NO

  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    "Misogynistic Savaging".....Hillary????

    Is she crazy? All bets are off when that woman who is being Misogynistically savaged resorts to racist savaging.
  • msmartin · 1 year ago
    Who are the idiots who wrote this story? This is a bunch of bullshit. I was too busy licking my own wounds from the racial attacks and whistles to even notice that Missy Clinton was having any trouble at all. These bitches are a little late with this lame as excuse for the lack of support. I see this as nothing more than an attack on black woman and an excuse for not supporting Michelle Obama. Well, you can't miss what you never had - so f**&k ya - we've got her.
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    msmartin: Co-signing!!!! :>) :>)
  • Leila Abu-Saba · 1 year ago
    This blog has done more for my half-Arab feminist consciousness and identity than a whole lifetime of Arab politics. I read the above post and I immediately say - nope, I am not a white feminist. ('cause I go 'round and round about whether I'm white or not - look white, raised by my white mom, privileged like white except when people find out my name, etc.).

    Really I am done. The *last* group I want to be a part of is the above white feminist crowd. Yes, I have to throw in my lot with the womanists because this other stuff is just nonsense.
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    Leila: Just lending support! :>) :>)
  • Leila Abu-Saba · 1 year ago
    Thank you all. Yes the whole Arabic name thing is a perpetual source of ... interesting interaction. Especially since "I don't look like one." Then I come to this blog and I read experiences from my African-American sisters and I think... hmmm... I can relate to that.
  • Leila Abu-Saba · 1 year ago
    Let me also say that my kid brother, Khalil, and I grew up in the Midwest and then the south in the 1970s, and we got a lot of teasing about our names, even from African-American kids at school. This was before Arabic names became popular. Sometime in about 1991 I was living in Brooklyn and walking down Flatbush Avenue when I heard one African-American guy say to another "well my brother Khalil did something or other" and I thought - your brother Khalil? My brother is Khalil! How cool is that? My little brother's name was finally acceptable on the street.

    I really thought anti-Arab racism and anti-Muslim sentiments were getting better in the 90s. Then we had 9/11 and it has been downhill since. Everybody's worst nightmare come true, and those Arabs did it, so they're all terrorists and deserve to die horrible deaths. Nuke the whole continent of Asia, one of my white aunts said to my mother. Yep. Nuke 'em all.
  • Town · 1 year ago
    It must be terrible for you because when I look at bobbleheads implying that because Obama's middle name is "Hussein" he's dangerous, what about the average Joe person with an Arabic name? Are all people with Arabic names suspect? "oooh his middle name is HUSSEIN, don't vote for him." One of our Middle East allies was King HUSSEIN. I wonder what the Jordanians are thinking right about now. There are a lot of black people in their 20s and 30s with Arabic names, I guess they should never run for office because of their name and if an Arabic person or Muslim wants to run for office I guess they better sit down too.
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    Town: Co-signing! :>)
  • JunePearl · 1 year ago
    Ms. Abu-Saba, we are :here:

    I always considered myself an “equalist”, because I never really felt like a part of the feminist movement. Even when I found out about womanism, I was a bit leery of it because of the possibilities of "divide and conquer". However, this past primary has made it ABUNDANTLY clear that white feminism is not about speaking truth to power for woman-kind, only for white woman-kind. As a Black woman I refuse to align myself with this shameful movement.
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    JunePearl: Co-signing Big Time!!! And a "virtual dap!" :>) :>) :>)
  • alchemytoday · 1 year ago
    I completely agree with the sentiment here (as a white guy, does that make me unbiased in this debate or maximally biased?). Depending on the standards applied, you might be able to make a list of 10 statements that were perceived as sexist by the Clinton campaign; none of them rise to the level of the worst statements in your WIki, but some of the 50 listed there are fairly mild (spadework). As a staunch Obama supporter who somewhat followed the wax and wane of anti-Obama vitriol, I think the incidents you'll see most often as a response are Obama's "likable enough" and "you can advise me, too" comments followed by the off-script responses of Jesse Jackson Jr. (and probably others, but I don't recall which) to Clinton's breakdown in New Hampshire.

    Of course, I'm cynical enough to see the NH events as Clinton's successful exploitation of her gender (just like JJ Jr's gut response), so lump me in with the sexists there.

    More disturbing, I think, is the fact that this "Clinton lost because of sexism" meme is reemerging right before the convention with articles like this, Howard Wolfson pushing it hard on his new blog, etc. Clinton herself is being helpful, but I guess there's no reason to ask or expect her to control her ex-employees, husband, and friends if she didn't have any control of them during the campaign.
  • Town · 1 year ago
    I think that Hillary fed the lions some meat, and even though she herself may have left the zoo, the lions are still there, they're still hungry and they demand to be fed. People like Bill Clinton, James Carville, Paul Begala, Howard Wolfson etc. waving meat in front of them doesn't help matters any.

    Her campaign was like a dress from Forever 21: it looked hot the first time you wore it but after you threw it in the wash it fell apart.
  • Lilytiger · 1 year ago
    Town, you are classic! I love this post.

    But they are pumas not lions.

    LOL
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    Lilytiger: BUT they are both CARNIVOROUS!!!! :>) :>) :>)
  • Miranda · 1 year ago
    LMAO!!!!!!!!! not a dress from Forever 21.....................*gasp*........*tears*....LMAO
  • Town · 1 year ago
    Am I lying, though?

    All of 2007 Hillary was the hot dress in the Forever 21 window. It was all good, you could get the same designer fashion (Bill) at a cut rate price (Hillary). But Obama threw that sucker in the wash in January and the seams unraveled, the hem was raggedy, strings everywhere, it kept shrinking and shrinking, colors fading. It's like PUMA is mad at Obama because they ended up with a raggedy dress.
  • taritac · 1 year ago
    BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!
  • JunePearl · 1 year ago
    I was holding in the laughter, then you come out with this!!!!!!!!!! bwhahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    Town! :>) :>) :>) Town! :>) :>) :>) Town! :>) :>) :>)

    When I stop laughing and when I get up off the floor, I may have something to say!!

    No I won't!! To use your phrase - "THE END!!" :>) :>) :>)
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    alchemy: Nice post! :>) :>)
  • Leota2 · 1 year ago
    Well said . . . . .
  • RosieReader · 1 year ago
    Amen. Isn't it time for the CLinton machine to stop their whining?
  • NMP · 1 year ago
    "G-T-F-O-H" Same response I had when I read this yesterday.
  • B-Serious · 1 year ago
    Excellent post, Rikyrah!!

    I can't wait to see Michelle's speech tonight. She's gonna knock it outa the ballpark!
  • MsKitty · 1 year ago
    Preach it!
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    In the coming days of the Convention, somebody better talk about the historic nature of this nomination. The Repubs and Clintons managed to silence that truth....NO MORE.

    I hope at Invesco, they interview AA's and do specials on AA's who've traveled to see the historic acceptance speech. I hope AA's talk about what this means to them.
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    TruthSeeker: Amen! and Amen! :>) :>)
  • Miranda · 1 year ago
    Exactly.
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    Rikyrah: May I arise now?? :>) :>) Bowing down kinda hurts my back and knees!! :>) :>)

    This post is BRILLIANT!!! :>) :>) :>)

    "You don't worry about Michelle Obama. , etc"

    So THAT was why I heard those LOUD SOUNDS of the CRICKETS****** - from the White Feminista!!! Oh! O.K. :>) :>)

    Whew! BRILLIANT Deep Breaths [on YOUR behalf!! :>) :>) :>)
  • andyfrombrooklyn · 1 year ago
    up is down. down is up. the media tenor is now starting to officially worry me. they better get on board during this convention.
  • Miranda · 1 year ago
    OMG........Chris Matthews has all but called the PUMAs "cunts".....LMAO.....he is dangerously close to getting MSNBC in trouble with the FCC.
  • Sepia · 1 year ago
    Is this the replay from the 5pm show, or a new one? On the 5pm show, he almost went off on that Clinton 4 McCain chick who said Obama went to school in a Madrassa.
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    Sepia: Saw that! :>) :>) He's FIRED UP!!! :>) :>)
  • Miranda · 1 year ago
    OMG..I missed that....oh my god, I hope it makes it to youtube.LOL
  • Honey01 · 1 year ago
    SAW IT! Highlight of any coverage I have seen today. I knew he would get in trouble though and his comment would be attributed to the Obama campaign.

    He quickly refined the comment though to indicate exactly who the wackos were.
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    Honey01: But he knew HOW ta backtrack! :>) :>) :>) Good job! :>) :>)
  • Sepia · 1 year ago
    Excellent post Rikyrah!
  • Maurice Stewart · 1 year ago
    Check your history of the Feminist Movement! Black women were marginalized then!
    This is NOTHING new!
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    Maurice: So true dat!!! :>) :>) I lived in it!! :>) Not even a CHAPTER was established for us [AA woman - just so's ya know!!] :>) :>) :>)
  • Lilytiger · 1 year ago
    I cannot wait to hear Michelle speak tonight. We all will be better for having a First Lady such as Michelle.
  • BlackButterfly · 1 year ago
    HELL(Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep) NAW!

    Rikyrah: Supremely excellent post. I am glad you stopped quoting because that was more than enough. How dare tweedle dum and tweedle dumber speak as if they ever included the Black woman in "the" feminist circle. They ain't slick.

    To all the IRRATIONAL and ILLOGICAL Hillpatines, Clintonites, PUMA's: KISS IT and STICK IT.
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    RIKYRAH!!!! RIKYRAH!!! Put anything down that you have in your hands!! Dark Sith is 'bout ta come on MSNBC! [according to Chris Matthews] :>) :>) :>)
  • BlackButterfly · 1 year ago
    ROFLMAO...everytime you call him Dark Sith!
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    BlackButterfly: I learned THAT from Rikyrah! :>) :>) According to her, Skeptical Brotha initially penned it!! :>) :>)

    But it works well!! :>) :>)
  • Admiral_Komack · 1 year ago
    I think of him (Harold Ford) as..."I coulda been a contenda! "
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    Admiral: Sing on!!!!! :>) :>) :>) Let me get my choir robe, again!!
    I'll do Doo-Wop in the background!!! :>) :>)
  • TRW · 1 year ago
    once again, these "journalists" have lumped all Black women together to justify inexcusable behavior. I spoke up for Hillary in my inner circle when I felt that she was being attacked unfairly or called out of her name.

    But I also spoke up when I thought she was behaving piss poorly, and unfortunately for her, it was more often then not. Is this what "feminism" means? That I must ignore the character flaws of someone running for office just because she has a uterus? Sorry, my Mama raised me to use my brain.

    Maybe Black women should have started a Hillary watch...or maybe not. But for people to get on their high horse and write an article that essentially says bad, bad Black women is complete bullshit. It essentially ignores the fact that even though many Black women may have felt sympathy for Hillary because she was being unfairly caricatured by the media at times (NOT the Obama campaign mind you) they had to reconcile that with the questionable race baiting tactics that were employed by her, her husband, her their surrogates.
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    TRW: Co-signing!!! :>) :>)
  • Elevated · 1 year ago
  • Miranda · 1 year ago
    Keith Olbermann.....THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    Hey y'all. I just got an e-mail from Mrs. Obama regarding her[and the girls] journey from Chicago to Denver! And a nice pic 2!! Whoooo! Hoo!! :>) :>)


    O.K. Errybody on their mailing list got the same! :>) :>) :>)
  • taritac · 1 year ago
    The Root is rife with questionable articles. Every one I've ever read has the tone of, "Every negative thing you, White America, have ever said or thought about us is, well, true. We apologize, White America, for saddling you with our black selves. How dare we?"

    How could black women stand up for Clinton? We were too busy tending to the knife she had stuck in our backs. The sexism she experienced came from the media, but all of her negative attacks were aimed at Obama and his blackness. She made it CLEAR that she was in this race to win "hard working, white Americans" and had nothing for the rest of us.

    These Root people need to get a clue.
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    taritac: ROFLMAO!!!! :>) Loved the ". . .kinife in the back. . " visual!!! :>) :>)

    And "whycome" they use the ROOT title!????? Whose ROOTS???? :>) :>)
  • SquarePeg · 1 year ago
    Black first, Female Second.

    That's the way OTHERS decided it would be in this country. While white females were sitting on the porch being waited on hand and foot not just during slavery, but when Black women worked as domestics in their households for pennies, I am sure they had our best interest at heart.

    Yeah, they truly care about the plight of Black women AFTER they have been served first, after all, with all the crying, whining and eyelash batting, what's a Black girl to do?

    Stay in her place until Ms. Ann tells her she can move. How dare these Black women think they are equal to us! Who told them they could speak? Waaaaaahhh, Waaaaah, are they lookng at me yet?

    Damn. Just Damn.
  • BlackButterfly · 1 year ago
    Co-sign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • SpartacusLaw · 1 year ago
    I am so proud to see the strong voices being shouted on this site.
  • eclecticbrotha · 1 year ago
    Yeah, that's some pretty absurd crap they're spouting over at the Root. I guess it was black women's fault that Gloria Steinem said its harder to be a white woman than a black man. White feminists have ALWAYS been about themselves. If you notice those same women who were bitching about a misogynist media attacking Hillary never minded when racist dog whistles were used against Barack. But then, since most of the racist crap was oozing from the Clintonista game plan it wouldn't look good if they spoke up about what their hero was doing to undermine the black guy.
  • RobM · 1 year ago
    It's not possible to make a rational response to this
  • Clio · 1 year ago
    The authors of that article are idiots.

    As for demanding that black women choose gender over race? That's a generational thing. White feminists over fifty were the idiots telling black women to stand down while Hillary was spewing racist bile. White feminists under fifty were fleeing the Hillary camp and rallying around Barack and Michelle in response.

    On a related note, is anyone else incredibly annoyed that the old white guys on PBS are not giving Michelle Obama far more credit for her speech? I thought she was splendid. And the audience was, as Judy Woodruff put it, completely rapt.
  • thembi · 1 year ago
    "Miss Anne Aint Studdin’ About Your Black Behind"

    Fantastic post! I'm with RosieReader - the whining must stop. Hillary wasnt robbed, she lost. There's no crying in baseball.
  • ljf · 1 year ago
    I hate to say it in such a crass way, but I don't expect much or a blog that is truly pro black (including black women) with Rebecca Walker as one of the feature writers. I checked out the blog before. It's one of those niggerati wishy washy liberal spineless can't we get along kumbya screed. I always thought is was written for a liberal whites and the negroswho adore them.
  • JJai · 1 year ago
    hold up Melissa Lacewell Harris blogs there, too though she has been absent due to illness of late....
  • Anovelista · 1 year ago
    Actually, Melissa Harris Lacewell quit a few weeks ago... She blogs now at her own blog called "The Kitchen Table."
  • pinksun · 1 year ago
    Thanks for passing on the info about Prof. Harris Lacewell. I had been hoping she would pop up somewhere.
  • aaronraul · 1 year ago
    Its funny know that yhe article calls us BLACK,all the post are using the term black,If the days thread says AFRO AMERICAN everybody uses the word AFRO AMERICAN.Clearly nobody here understands strategy.Two wrongs dont make a right.Theres a difference between being racist and using race to strenghthen your position.Both campaigns did this,and Its possible Bill Clinton did this purposelly,No one on these sites seems capable of asking themselves why the same white power structure that committed ethnic cleansing during Katrina is so enthusiastic about making a Black man president,Voter are just pieces in the game you didnt put Barrack were he is THE WHITE MAN THE ZIONIST THE MEDIA PUT HIM WHER HE IS.WITH ALL THE SUPER TECHNOLOGY OF MY SPACE FACEBOOK AND OTHER MIND CONTROL TECHNOLOGY.Obama didnt use none of this stuff to win his senate seats he used good old fashioned down dirty Chicago Politics and had every bobdys names removed from the ballot.AS LONG AS blacks WANT A black president we are still aspiring for white approval by letting WHITE SOCIETY SET THE STANDARD OF SUCCESS.THIS IS PIMPMPING 101.GIVE EM A OSCAR GIVE EM A DIDDY GIVE EM A OPRAH But black wealth as a whole registers as a negative compare to any other group eitther by race or age.As long as Blacks continue to succumb to anger and racism well get played. WE ARE NOT black or a man or a woman or a mother or a son etc.We are what ever is capable of playing all of these different roles and assuming all of these different identities.So see the truth the power wove ideas of racism sexism religion through both campaigns.The candidates have very little control over their campaigns ther given a role to play and words to say that have beenfocused grouped and psycoanalysed and marketed to get just the effect you see division among DEMOCRATS DIVISIONS BETWEEN RACE GENDER ETC. wE NEED TO STOP THINKING LIKE CONSUMERS AND START THINKING LIKE PRODUCERS.GEORGE CLINTON PUT IT LIKE THIS. LITTLE MISS MUPPET SAT ON A TUFFET SNORTING SOME THC ALONG CAME A SPIDER SAT DOWN BESIDE HER SAID WHATS IN THE BAG BITCH SHE SAID IM LAUGHING AT YOU.If anybody on this site can began to understnd this rhyme you will have the key to understand this whole presidential charade.AND IM BLACK ALL THE TIME THAT BEING A REVOLUTIONARY STATE OF MIND THAT REALIZES THAT THE ELITES PLAN TO ENSLAVE US ALL BY DIVIDING US RACE AGAINST RACE CLASS AGAINST CLASS RELIGION AGAINST RELIGION AND GENDER SAGINST GENDER.REMEMBER THESE WORDS AS YOU WATCH THE GAME UNFOLD
  • kalagenesis · 1 year ago
    Yea but make sure you carry your ass to the polls on election day and vote for Obama.If not you are a traitor.
    http://kalanation.blogspot.com/2008/08/kalagene...
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