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Jack and Jill Politics: A Great Analysis By… Meet The Press??

  • natthedem · 1 year ago
    An interesting thing to remember about Ronald Reagan today...
  • The Bag of Health and Politics · 1 year ago
    I agree with Peggy Noonan. Dynasties are a sickness in this country, and they must be stopped at all costs. I would prefer Obama to stop them. But if it's McCain, it's McCain.


    A friend asked if there was any way I'd vote for Clinton. There is only one scenario: a public one-term pledge by Hillary and Obama on the ticket with her. I could vote for that ticket. Anything short of that--especially on the one-term pledge front--and I'm with McCain, even if Obama's on the ticket.
  • NMP · 1 year ago
    I saw the show, and thought the Obama Campaign should be pressing copies of Doris Kearn's Goodman's remarks and mass mailing. As Goodman, one of the country's foremost historians said, it is an indisputable FACT that Reagan changed the trajectory of the country, for good or bad. But he did change it. He was able to do what no other President since FDR did and that is to get a high percentage of the other party to vote for him. Obama has to make the case that no Democrat will ever be able to accomplish goals like universal health care without winning a solid majority, which Senator Clinton can not do. When it comes to electability, there is no better electability argument. Senator Clinton, and any Democratic nominee, will cetainly get 90+% of the Democratic vote, but can she get Independents and moderate Republicans? Thus far, the answer is no. Senator Obama, by stark contrast, is doing incredibly well among those key general election groups. Look at NV, Senator Obama won most of the state, which is quite conservative, but Senator Clinton won Las Vegas, which has a higher percentage of Latinos and women. Sure, she can win the nomination, but can she win the general, especially against a Independent magnet like McCaine?
  • NMP · 1 year ago
    Just watched Hardball and according to Chris Matthews and resident bigot, Pat Buchanan, a win a majority White state like NH is a credible win for Senator Clinton, a White woman, but a win for Senator Obama, in a largely Black state like SC, is not a credible win. Is this political Dredd Scotting?
  • bay · 1 year ago
    Is anyone watching Stephanie Tubbs Jones on Tucker?! My God, she is such a coon. I can't stand Tucker, I think he's a snotty punk ass white boy, but I'm laughing at her right along with him.


    This woman has no dignity and she has shown time and time again that she has no qualms about getting on live tv and cooning for Massa Bill's wife. I am downright disgusted and I hope to Go there is a video of this. She's on there bugging her eyes and everything.



    Ahhh!! I swear, sometimes I don't get my people.
  • Rachel · 1 year ago
    I have spent all day arguing with older white lady friends in the south who are normally smart and independent, but seem to have been caught up in some kind of crazy hysteria where facts no longer matter. I must be a "bad feminist" because I identify more with someone who grew up in a nomadic broken family, than the daughter of a millionaire who married a president...


    Bizarre. I am not giving up, though. I am gonna win my bitches over if it kills us all.
  • babyming · 1 year ago
    I think that a big reason the Clintons are slinging mud is that they want the focus to be on the down-and-dirty. The Clintons know that Obama will win if voters get to see his remarkable speeches. I regard Obama as a great man, without a racist or anti-gay or anti-Semitic bone is his body, a very experienced legislator and former teacher of Constitutional Law, a potentially great President who will unite all of us. So of course the Clintons have to move the focus away from all that. And they have been winning. Obama needs to spend less time responding to the mudslinging, and more time showing us who he is. Now, I turn on the TV news and I see stories about what Hillary said about Dr. King. I want to turn on the TV and see a beautiful soundbite from an Obama speech.
  • justice58 · 1 year ago
    "Bizarre. I am not giving up, though. I am gonna win my bitches over if it kills us all".
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    ahahahahahahahaha
  • Ronnie B · 1 year ago
    nmp,


    Spot on! Doris Kearns Goodwin made the difference on MTP. Not only did she set the record straight about Reagan, but the entire panel essentially refuted the Clintons' criticism of Barack by pointing out how they said basically the same things that Barack said.
  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    Just watched Hardball and according to Chris Matthews and resident bigot, Pat Buchanan, a win a majority White state like NH is a credible win for Senator Clinton, a White woman, but a win for Senator Obama, in a largely Black state like SC, is not a credible win. Is this political Dredd Scotting?


    Why didn't you warn me that, once again, I had to suffer Stephen A. Smith.



    I'll say it again...



    THEY WOULD NEVER EVER have a WHITE SPORTS ANCHOR ON TO DISCUSS POLITICS.



    If their minds are too small, just ask the audience....I'm sure that I can give them a dozen names of qualified Political Professionals/Journalists/PhDs that are emininently more qualified to listen to than a SPORTS ANCHOR.



    It's just insulting.



    And, I'll shut up about this when I see Chris Berman on Hardball or Tucker.
  • natthedem · 1 year ago
    THEY WOULD NEVER EVER have a WHITE SPORTS ANCHOR ON TO DISCUSS POLITICS.


    What about Keith Olbermann?
  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    Olbermann has made the transition. Nobody's pretending that this is a ' transition' for Stephen A. Smith.


    I'm still waiting for Chris Berman.



    This bothers me because there are SO many Black political professionals, Political Scientists that could be offering serious commentary...



    And, they bring that fool Stephen A. Smith. And, the only reason they had him was because he's Black. Dammit, those Black 'slots' are still rare, and should be filled with folks WHO HAVE SOME SENSE, and for whom this isn't a sideshow.



    Sigh.



    May I say that it isn't just an ideological thing...hell, there are some Black Republicans that I'd like to see on shows like Hardball and Tucker too commenting about the Dems and GOP.



    Double sigh.





    Anyone want to join with me in making a list of Black Folk who would be better on Hardball than Stephen A. Smith:



    Ron Walters

    Dwayne Wickham

    George Curry

    Bev Smith

    Tony Brown

    Robert Woodson

    Charles Butler

    Patricia Williams

    Melissa Harris-Bracewell

    Jill Nelson

    bell hooks (actually, I think the audience would literally have strokes if she were on)

    I can't stand her, but Debra Dickerson



    Feel free to add to the list....
  • Ronnie B · 1 year ago
    ... see why I'm always harping about more Black news/program directors?
  • NMP · 1 year ago
    Rikyrah,


    Add Karen Russell to the list. She wrote a great piece today Huffingtonpost.com:



    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/karen-russell/zip-it-bill_b_82590.html



    BTW, I'm sick of Tavis Smiley! I'm sick of him doing the Clintons' bidding! He keeps talking about accountability for ALL the Clintons, but he's on Senator Obama's ass every opportunity he gets. He's now lending his voice to the Clinton chorus of distortions of what Senator Obama actually said about Reagan, failing to provide the question that was posed to Senator Obama and the full quote of his answer. Tavis knows damn well that Senator Obama would never praise the policies of Reagan or Reagan generally. He was asked how, as the nominee, he could help Democrats win? It was clear to any objective and rational person that he was saying he wants to do for Democrats what Reagan did for Republicans. Nothing more, nothing less! Tavis knows this but honestly reporting what Senator Obama said would undermine his obvious effort to tarnish Senator Obama.
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    There are quite a few Hiliary Rodham Clinton Minions (Tavis Smiley, Bob Johnson, Andrew Young, etc.) who are obviously benefiting by being on the Clinton coattails.


    Please note that there are many wanna-be-politicians along with the Clintons who do not wish for Mr. Obama to have an equal opportunity at the White House.



    Simply ridiculous!



    Josephine
  • RDukes · 1 year ago
    That was unusually deep for any of the major talk shows. Good stuff.