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I have to agree that Gloria Steinem had her ass handed to her. She recognized that herself and almost seemed apologetic or embarassed at times. By the end of the debate it appeared that she was ready to reconsider her support for Clinton.
I love her. I simply love her. Even when I disagree with her, I love her. But, especially when I agree with her. She was ON POINT.
Steinem knows she was wrong for that piece. She knows it was dirty and she looked ashamed of herself, as she should be. There was nothing she could say to defent it. Nothing.
Oh, and I loved when Lacewell brought up Lani Guinier! I was like DAYUM!!!! LOL
This needs to be seen by everyone!
Thank you Melissa
LOVED IT!
I updated my post on this very subject after a reader emailed this interview to me (with an historical emphasis on how black women have either been used or ignored in this argument).
Melissa Harris Lacewell is my new hero!
All The Women Are White, All The Blacks Are Men and Some of Us Are Sick Of It.
Thank you!
Ouch!
Why it's time to close the book on the Clintons -- and herald the Obamas!
made my night. thanks.
Gloria Steinem: Pitting race against gender
by Racialicious guest contributor Jennifer Fang, originally published at Reappropriate
Since 2004, when rumours abounded over an Obama candidacy, pundits have cast this year's Democratic election as a battle of identity politics: will Americans choose a Black man or a White woman to be their nominee for president? And by extension, will this finally settle the debate over which is the more subjugated identity: race or gender?
Yesterday morning, Gloria Steinem, influential second-wave feminist, weighed in at the New York Times with an opinion piece titled "Women Are Never Front-Runners". I guess we can tell where she stands in this debate.
(Incidentally, if women are never front-runners, than how did Clinton get as far as she did on the "inevitable pseudo-incumbent" campaign she's been running that made her the front-runner for most of last year? I find the headline of this piece to be a wee bit of hyperbole.)
We've heard many argue that it's time for an African American president, and many more argue it's time for a female president. But, nowhere in the race vs. gender frenzy that has swept the nation has anyone challenged the very validity of the question. How can one compare racism to sexism - and if one tries, where do those of us who are disadvantaged both by our race and by our gender fit in?
In truth, the juxtaposition is disingenuous, divisive, overly simplistic, and ultimately harmful, because it redirects our attention away from efforts to break the White male patriarchy that excludes all the Others, but towards in-fighting where we all compete to see both who's more oppressed, and who will make it out of that "Oppression Box" first.
Scholars like Steinem have only fueled these divisive attitudes. Though she writes, "I'm not advocating a competition for who has it toughest", Steinem opens her article with the observation that "gender is probably the most restricting force in American life". She continues by implying that the race barrier has largely been resolved, because "Black men were given the vote a half-century before women of any race were allowed to mark a ballot, and generally have ascended to positions of power, from the military to the boardroom, before any women".
While Steinem is correct in observing that women are still oppressed by the gender roles that expect us to remain in the kitchen over the White House, how can we compare those gender roles to the racist expectation that Black men be either athletes or in jail? How does that compare to the plight of Native Americans, who suffer from almost non-existent healthcare or educational opportunities? Or to the on-the-job harassment faced by Asian Americans seen as perpetually untrustworthy and foreign?
Steinem's argument that women were denied the vote for a half-century after Black men were made voting citizens ignores two truths: 1) had the right for women to vote been included in the 14th and 15th Amendments, those Amendments were unlikely to have passed, and 2) despite being granted the right to vote in the Constitution, it took nearly another century before the Voting Rights Act allowed the majority of African Americans to exercise that right in the face of profoundly institutionalized racism and apartheid. But Steinem essentially argues that these details are irrelevant: because women were not granted the vote when Black men were, Black men face fewer barriers today compared to White women, and thus are less deserving of affirmative action when it comes to the highest position in the country. By extension, Steinem suggests that if White women don't benefit from a step towards civil rights, than no one should - which is why we need a female president before we need a Black president.
Steinem further suggests that negative treatment (or impossible expectations) of Senator Hillary Clinton stem exclusively from a sexism "as pervasive as the air we breathe". She notes that a fictional Achola Obama (who, unlike Senator Obama, doesn't seem to have achieved anything more than state legislator) would not be seen as electable while Senator Barack Obama - by virtue of his gender, says Steinem - is. Not only does this ignore the very "un-electable Obama" argument that has been a core component of Clinton's stump speeches, but Steinem carelessly paints all criticisms of Senator Clinton with the same sexist brush. She notes "Clinton could not have used Mr. Obama's public style - or Bill Clinton's either - without being considered too emotional by Washington pundits". But, Hillary Clinton has tried: notably in Selma, Alabama earlier this year, when Clinton and Obama delivered back-to-back speeches in neighbouring churches. Obama's speech was generally heralded as rousing and inspiring. Clinton's was not criticized as being "too emotional", but too robotic and fake. In fact, I suspect that Clinton can't get away with Obama's or Clinton's style of speaking not because she's a woman, but because she's simply not that charismatic a speaker.
On the question of biology, Steinem again contradicts herself. Though she argues that sexism has remained pervasive because of how it is "still confused with nature" (i.e. women are naturally or biologically different), she goes on to underscore and praise Clinton's innate differences as a woman by citing how she has "no masculinity to prove". And when it comes to emotion, Steinem recognizes that Washington pundits are quick to charge female politicians with being "too emotional" but then she lauds Clinton for having "the courage to break the no-tears rule". Steinem seems to want it front-ways, back-ways, and every ways but Sundays when it comes to Clinton - she believes Clinton deserves our vote in part "because she's a woman", while arguing that Clinton shouldn't be seen as "divisive by her sex".
But the contradictions on how to consider Senator Clinton's gender seem to run deeper - all the way to the Senator's campaign. Senator Clinton repeatedly cites the change that will be affected by electing a female president, but then dismisses the charge that she is playing the "gender card". (By contrast, not once has Obama said that he should be elected because he would be the first Black president). Senator Clinton claims to be the candidate of feminists (indeed, Steinem herself basically questions the gender authenticity of young women for daring to choose a male candidate over Senator Clinton - going so far as to suggest that "women are the one group that grows more radical with age") and yet Clinton expected to ride the wave of her husband's accomplishments all the way to the White House. And in case we found out that she actually had very little to do with those accomplishments, she and her husband have carefully chosen to exclude White House documents pertaining to the First Lady's role during the Clinton years from the public eye.
Ultimately, however, Steinem's piece (intentionally or unintentionally) draws a line in the sand between people of colour and women, essentially disregarding the everyday racism faced by Black and Brown people, and claiming the Oppression Olympics gold medal for women. Further, by casting the debate as between Black men and White women (despite her imperfect creation of Achola Obama), Steinem renders the woman of colour invisible, reaffirms the binary Black-White paradigm of race, and demands we take a side in the epic battle between race and gender. Is it no wonder, then, that women of colour have long felt alienated by feminists like Steinem? Where do we fit when we're being asked to choose between Obama and Clinton as a metaphor for race versus gender? And how are we supposed to react when an incorrect choice labels us as "less radical"?
Gloria Steinem wants us to able to say we're supporting Senator Hillary Clinton because she'll be a great president and because she's a woman. But if we're really ready to take "equal pride in breaking all the barriers", then how can we be expected to make the call between voting for these candidates based even in part on their identity? Regardless of whom we decide on, by making the identity politics of our candidate a factor in our decision, we are implicitly establishing a "separate and unequal" relationship between race and gender barriers that only fuels the continued clash between race activists and feminists.
So, I'm supporting Senator Barack Obama because he'll be a great president. And, not because he's Black.
http://www.racialicious.com/2008/01/09/gloria-steinem-pitting-race-against-gender/
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/08/opinion/08steinem.html?_r=1&oref;=slogin
Now and then
The Day before the NewHamshire Primary vote The New York Times printed an op-ed by Gloria Steinem, "Women Are Never Frontrunners." It was at once an excuse for why Hillary Clinton lost in Iowa and an attack on men for the sexism that oppressed Hillary. She even suggested that racism is gone but sexism endures.
Now, up until Iowa Hillary was the frontrunner for the Democratic nomination, and by winning in New Hampshire she is again the frontrunner. So Steinem's premise was wrong. But what was the point of the op-ed?
Let me give you a hint as to whom Gloria Steinem is and why she said what she did. Here is an article from the same New York Times from forty years ago:
The New York Times, February 21, 1967
Gloria Steinem and the CIA
The New York Times
C.I.A. SUBSIDIZED FESTIVAL TRIPS; Hundreds of Students Were Sent to World Gatherings
February 21, 1967, Tuesday
Page 33, 584 words
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res... ;sq=Gloria+Steinem%3A
C.I.A. Subsidized Festival Trips
Hundreds of Students Were
Sent to World Gatherings
A New York freelance writer disclosed yesterday that the Central Intelligence Agency had supported a foundation that sent hundreds of Americans to World Youth Festivals in Vienna in 1959 and Helsinki, Finland, in 1962.
Gloria Steinem, a 30-year-old graduate of Smith College, said the C.I.A. has been a major source of funds for the foundation, the Independence [sic -- Independent] Research Service, since its formation in 1958. Almost all of the young persons who received aid from the foundation did not know about the relationship with the intelligence agency, Miss Steinem said. Ironically, she said, many of the students who attended the festivals have been criticized as leftists. The festivals are supposed to be financed by contributions from national student unions, but are, in fact, largely supported by the Soviet Union.
Miss Steinem said she had become convinced that American students should participate in the World Youth Festivals after she spent two years in India.
"I came home in 1958 full of idealism and activism, to discover that very little was being done," she said. "Students were not taken seriously here before the civil rights movement, and private money receded at the mention of a Communist youth festival."
Hears of Funds
Miss Steinem said she had talked to some former officers of the National Student Association, who told her C.I.A. money might be available to finance American participation in the seventh postwar festival scheduled for Vienna in the summer of 1959.
The former association officers had had ties with the C.I.A. while serving the association, which last week conceded it had taken money from the intelligence agency since 1952.
"Far from being shocked by this involvement, I was happy to find some liberals in government in those days, who were far-sighted and cared enough to get Americans of all political views to the festival," Miss Steinem said. She noted that most Americans who had attended various festivals were sympathetic to Communist policies.
The Independence [sic] Research Service, originally called the Independent Service for Information on the Vienna Festival, was organized with headquarters in Cambridge, Mass. It concentrated, Miss Steinem said, on disseminating information about the festival and urging young persons who espoused flexible, but non-Communist, foreign policy views to attend.
Miss Steinem was a full-time employe of the service till following the Helsinki festival in 1962.
About 130 youths who had made contact with the foundation did attend, although few of them received significant financial help, Miss Steinem said.
Recruits for Festival
Before the Helsinki festival in 1962 the foundation again recruited young teachers, lawyers, scholars, linguists and journalists -- most of whom would consider themselves very liberal Democrats -- to attend.
The Independent Service financed a newspaper, a new [sic -- news?] bureau, cultural exhibits and two jazz clubs during the festival. However, its most important work was to convince youths from Asia, Africa and Latin America that some Americans understood their aspirations for national self-determination, Miss Steinem said.
Miss Steinem insisted that the C.I.A. had never tried to alter the policy of the foundation.
"I was never asked to report on other Americans or assess foreign nationals I had met," she said.
Miss Steinem noted that since the foundation was started in "the post-McCarthy era" the Federal Government could not openly finance the foundation. Overt government support would also have "alienated" youths from other countries who were suspicious of the United States, she said.
"The C.I.A.'s big mistake was not supplanting itself with private funds fast enough," she observed.
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From Kai Bird, The Chairman: John J. McCloy and the Making of the American Establishment (New York: Simon & Schuster, 1992), pp. 483-84, 727.
In the summer of 1959, just before McCloy took his family for an extended trip to Europe, C.D. Jackson wrote to remind McCloy that later that summer a World Youth Festival was scheduled to take place in Vienna. Jackson asked McCloy to contribute an article, perhaps on the "benign and constructive aspects" of the U.S. occupation of Germany. The piece would appear in a daily newspaper to be published in Vienna in conjunction with the festival. McCloy agreed, and the article was published (in five languages) in a newspaper distributed by a twenty-five-year-old Smith graduate named Gloria Steinem.138
McCloy's connection to Steinem went beyond contributing an article to the propaganda operation of which she was an editor in Vienna. Late in 1958, he and Jackson had discussed how the United States should respond to the expected Soviet propaganda blitz in Vienna. Previous gatherings of this kind had always been held in Moscow, East Berlin, or other cities in Eastern Europe. These events were major propaganda circuses, and the CIA was determined, in the words of Cord Meyer, a career CIA officer, "to compete more effectively with this obviously successful Communist apparatus."139
Washington expected some twenty thousand students and young scholars from all over the world to converge on Vienna that summer for the three-week festival. Consequently, the CIA wanted an organized student presence in Vienna in order to counter Soviet propaganda.
C.D. Jackson recognized the Vienna Youth Festival as "an extremely important event in the Great Game." He explained, "This is the first time commies have held one of these shindigs on our side of the iron curtain; and what goes on, how it goes on, and what the follow-up will be is, I think, extremely important."140
By the time Jackson first approached McCloy, in the autumn of 1958, he and Cord Meyer, head of the CIA's International Organizations division (IO), had a plan. The Agency would provide discreet funding to an "informal group of activists" who would constitute themselves as an alternative American delegation to the festival. The CIA would not only pay their way but also assist them to distribute books and publish a newspaper in Vienna. Among other individuals, Jackson and Meyer hired Gloria Steinem to work with them. Steinem had recently returned from a two-year stint in India, where she had been a Chester Bowles Asian Fellow.
"I came home in 1958," Steinem later explained, "full of idealism and activism, to discover that very little was being done.... Private money receded at the mention of a Communist youth festival."141 Convinced that a contingent of liberal but anticommunist American students should go to Vienna, she heard through her contacts at the National Student Association that there might be funding available to finance American participation in the festival. Working through C.D. Jackson and Cord Meyer, Steinem then set up an organization in Cambridge, Massachusetts called the Independent Service for Information on the Vienna Youth Festival. She obtained tax-exempt status, and Jackson helped her raise contributions from various American corporations, including the American Express Company. But most of the money came from the CIA, to be managed by Jackson in a "special account." The entire operation cost in the range of $85,000, a not inconsiderable sum in those years.142 (Steinem's organization, later renamed the Independent Research Service, continued to receive support from the CIA through 1962, when it financed an American delegation to the Helsinki Youth Festival.143)
Steinem ended up working closely with Samuel S. Walker, Jr., vice-president of the CIA-funded Free Europe Committee. Because the Austrians did not want to be associated with the Free Europe Committee, the Agency set up a commercial front called the Publications Development Corporation (PDC). Walker was made president of this dummy corporation, funded in part by "a confidential one-year contract" worth $273,000 from the Free Europe Committee.144 His job was to supervise the book-and-newspaper operation at the Youth Festival.145
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138. C.D. Jackson to McCloy, 6/12/59, DDE [Dwight D. Eisenhower Presidential Library, Abilene KS]; Cord Meyer, Facing Reality: From World Federalism to the CIA (New York: Harper & Row, 1980), p. 103.
139. Meyer, Facing Reality, p. 102.
140. C.D. Jackson to Frank Stanton, 7/13/59, DDE.
141. NYT, Feb. 21, 1967.
142. C.D. Jackson to Cord Meyer, 12/16/58; Samuel S. Walker, Jr., to C.D. Jackson, 2/2/59; Gloria Steinem to C.D. Jackson, 3/19/59, DDE.
143. When this covert operation was revealed by Ramparts magazine in 1967, Steinem told The New York Times that she approved the Agency's role. "Far from being shocked by this involvement, I was happy to find some liberals in government in those days who were far-sighted and cared enough to get Americans of all political views to the Festival." (NYT, Feb. 21, 1967). Steinem's definition of a liberal then included such young men as Zbigniew Brzezinski, an assistant professor at Harvard, and Tom Garrity, a lawyer with Donovan & Leisure. She arranged though Jackson funding for both men to attend the festival. (She also tried to get Michael Harrington to attend, but he dropped out at the last minute.) Steinem's politics then appeared to be typical of many 1950s anticommunist liberals. She told the Times in 1967, "I was never asked to report on other Americans or assess foreign nationals I had met." But in fact, in response to a query from C.D. Jackson, Steinem wrote Jackson in great detail on the left-wing affiliations of various Americans associated with the allegedly Soviet-backed U.S. Festival Committee. (Gloria Steinem to C.D. Jackson, 3/19/59, DDE; NYT, Feb. 21, 1967.)
144. S.S. Walker to C.D. Jackson, "Status Report," DDE.
145. Samuel Walker eventually made a career out of publishing, becoming president of Walker & Co., a New York City publishing firm founded in the same year as the CIA funded Publications Development Corporation. In Vienna, he and Steinem worked well together. Their organizing efforts led to a split in the official American delegation. Their propaganda machine pumped out four hundred thousand copies of a daily newspaper for three weeks with articles by McCloy, Irving Kristol, Czeslav Milosz, Hubert Humphrey, Willy Brandt, Isaac Deutscher, and a broad range of other intellectuals and politicians. They also distributed some thirty-six thousand books by such left-of-center but anti-Soviet writers as George Orwell and Milovan Djilas. In the midst of it all, Walker reported back to Jackson, "Gloria's group continues to do yeoman service, distributing books etc. to the point where the cry has gone up 'Never before have so many Young Republicans distributed so much Socialist literature with such zeal.'" Walker praised Steinem's "female intuition" and wrote, "Gloria is all you said she was, and then some. She is operating on 16 synchronized cylinders and has charmed the natives...." (C.D. Jackson to Cord Meyer, 7/14/59, with attached Walker diary; Walker to Jackson, 7/31/59, DDE.)
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Addendum
In 1975, a radical feminist group called Redstockings published their research on Steinem and Ms. magazine. Four years later, Random House was preparing an edition of Redstockings' Feminist Revolution. Steinem, Clay Felker (who launched Ms. and once worked for Steinem's CIA front), Katharine Graham, Warner Communications (Graham and Warner were major Ms. stockholders), and Ford Foundation president Franklin A. Thomas complained to Random House. The offending chapters were deleted and an "Abridged Edition" was published.
See also: Gloria Steinem Spies on Students for the CIA
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I'd love to see you make the Sunday morning rounds (Meet the Press, This Week, etc.) but the way you summarily exposed the hypocrisy of white female privilege and feminism, I probably shouldn't hold my breath.
Thank you again.
On the other hand white women who receive the right to vote in 1920 were NEVER systematically shut out of the political process! In many ways their vote reflected that of their husbands therefore giving every white man a second vote!!!
Prof Lacewell truly exposed the absolute short-sighted and hisotrical revisionism of Gloria Steinam's Op-Ed. It begged a simple question, would Hillary Clinton be where she is if she were a Black woman?
At one point, when she infiltrated the Hefner culture by working as a Playboy bunny,she was a journalist. Now, she is a run of the mill New York celebrity.
The Steinem piece annoyed me so much I started a blog just to respond (I just couldn't meet the concision requirements of a letter to the editor).
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