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As a proud, white, conservative, female from Illinois (The Land of Lincoln) born on February 12th (no lie), I am excited by Obama and hope he wins the Democrat nomination. I voted to send him to the Senate, but I will not vote for him in the general election. He is simply too liberal for me. Ideas not identity will determine my vote.
I have always wondered why so many Blacks, African-Americans (which should I use?) continue to be loyal to the Clintons and the Democrat Party in general. Watching all of this play out Democrats vs. Democrats is sad but not unpredictable. As long as Americans are comfortable to be identified as a group: Black, White, Hispanic, Italian-Polish-Roman Catholic-Upper-Middle Class-Soccer Mom (you get the idea), those labels will be used to divide us and deny us our voices as individuals.
Obama has the oppotunity to elevate political debate beyond race if only the Democrat Party will let him. Good luck!
That said, I too am baffled why we black folks and certain groups of Latinos are so loyal to the Democrats. And the loyalty black folks have to Clinton, in particulary, is and has always been straight up disturbing to me. I'm under 30 years old and most other black people in my age group are not enamored with Bill and Hill. Nor are we enamored with white liberals either.
The democratic party is made up of a white father/mother and it's children, people of color. The minute those children grow up and want to become a parent, white liberals say "wait your turn". If you continue to challenge, they will "play the race card", as white people like to say, and use your race to alert all the other liberals that their kids are getting out of hand and uppity,.
I could go on and on, but I will be changing my registration to Independent after my state's primary. And if Hillary is the nominee,I will write in Obama or vote republican depending on who the nominee is.
But are right. The black community's loyalty to the Dems just makes no sense at all. I think younger black people recognize this.
I am here for the Obama coverage. I found the place through a link from Andrew Sullivan's site -- I think. I've become a google nut for Obama news, like it will help him get elected.... I wish.
I have been excited about Obama since the Convention speech.
I saw him in front of a small crowd in a small town in Iowa last summer and was pleased to discover that he really is one of those extremely rare politicians.
Damn smart.
Loose as ashes.
Great self-deprecating sense of humor.
And a hint of steel and confidence just out of sight. He doesn't have to flash it because he knows who he is and where he is and why he is. That's why he can be friendly with people he disagrees with. And he's probably one of those guys you wouldn't want mad at you.
I read this description at Mark Kleimans blog (another blog discovery):
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Better yet, as far as I can tell from listening to his speeches and "reading" The Audacity of Hope as an audiobook, Obama is almost devoid of the megalomaniac and sociopathic tendencies so common among top-level politicians.
The Greek word sophrosyne is usually translated as "temperance" or "moderation." But its core meaning seems to be closer to "self-command" or "sanity." That's the characteristic that shines through the speeches and actions of Abraham Lincoln. It's on Obama's sophrosyne, even more than on his intelligence, that I'm prepared to bet.
[snip]
me again....
Some of his critics say he wouldn't be where he is if he were a woman or a white man. That's just crazy. His personal qualities would look good on anyone, even a Republican. Romney would sell his soul for an ounce of what Obama has.
Will he change the world? That's a tall order. I'll take a decent, honest, competent, liberal politician and see where we can go from there.
For your demographic curiosity... 51 year old white guy here. Married, two kids under 15, house, dog, middle-class. Not much time to volunteer on the campaign, but definitely spreading the word to family, friends, and co-workers.
Thanks for the Obama coverage. And I'll read up on the other stuff while I'm here.
That list of democrats and republicans attempting to remind African-Americans of the legacy of the Republican party and its ties to the civil rights issues is often evasive, misleading and down right offensive.
In order to truly understand the evolution of the Republican Party you surely know that most Blacks who could vote during Lincoln's time did so because he advocated an end to slavery, not because it was the humane and moral thing to do, rather it was an attempt to choke the southern economy and its barrens who were plotting insurrection against the union. Slavery as liberating a race of people was an afterthought. After Andrew Johnson removed the Union troops from the south after Reconstruction, Blacks did not have anyone Republican or Democrat to champion their cause until Franklin Roosevelt, who due to circumstances and with everyone being in the same boat financially and through the efforts of his wife to bring some semblance of normalcy to the lives of African Americans, did Black folks begin to abandon the Republican Party. The Dixiecrats of the Democratic Party who were staunchly and violently opposed to several rights completed their conversion to the Republican Party when Lyndon Johnson signed civil rights legislation. Now I know you knew that right?
So attempts to equate the Republican Party as the party of Lincoln or the party that cares about African-Americans would be laughable if it was not down right pathetic and dangerous for someone to continue to believe this myth perpetrated by the Republican Party. By its actions, not its words, the Republican Party of today, has shown its true "colors" when it comes to anything remotely progessive or advantageous to Black Americans let alone any minority. Name me one piece of legislation that the Republican Party championed that would positively impact the lives of African Americans. These people could not even bring themselves to vote for assitance to Hurricane Katrina victims, and assailed them as lazy for not being rich and unable to help themselves, yet or willing to provide corporate welfare for banks and mortgage companies crying because they are now losing money.
Yes, some of us will fall for that tired of line about the progressive Republicans, but some of us who have been around for more than a minute, now this is a tired worn out farce that I hope you will not continue to repeat.
Take it from me, it is not about the Clintons but about what would continue to happen to us as a race if we had another GWB in the White House. We can't take anymore.
"Hurricane Katrina victims"
Good example of victims, though not Hurricane victims. NO is a Democrat strong-hold, and the Democrat Party did nothing as Hurricane Katrina roared towards and into NO.
If there had been an election going on, you can bet that the Democrat Party would've made sure that all Democrat voters had a ride. Since there was no election, the Democrat Party ignored those who had no ride out of harm's way.
The Democrats had decades to solve the problems in NO, but apparently they only cared about having their Vote Factory churn out more voters...
When Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, the Republican Party was STILL the majority party in Congress.
When the Democratic Senator Mary Landrieu attempted to pass legislation that would have assisted the victims of this hurricane and its aftermath, the Republican party and its members blocked every effort until a bill could be passed that would give construction contracts to Republican countries, including one belonging to a friend of GWB, who resigned as head of FEMA to form his company to take advantage of all that money. Trent Lott in his greed literally railroaded a bill to Congress for a railway line costing more than 250 million dollars all while the victims of New Orleans and Missisppi were left to rot.
By the way, you are giving yourself a way again as a troll.
The word is DEMOCRATIC. Your childess attempts at being dismissive are amusing as is all these frat boy wanna be macho Republicans who would pee in their pants if they met a real man, or even a real woman.
I invite you Seaberry to loosen up, take that board out of your a$$, try walking in somebody else's shoes for once to see how the other side lives. You might actually learn something--humility, morality, empathy.
Go back to Daily Kos.