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justice58 — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:21:00 -0000

anon 2:27

You're a wuss! A pathetic jealous ignorant trashy wuss!

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Anonymous — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 12:49:00 -0000

WHY IS THE MEDIA HIDING THE TRUTH ABOUT HILLARY'S SECRET RELIGION (CULT ?)

It was obvious as one would watch the 'coverage' of the war that all of the cable news networks were working for the Bush Regime. The ONLY place we as Americans could attempt to gather some truth was through C-Span, Huff and a few other sites which would show all of the networks to be actually misleading America. Now, with as simple a tool as Google, Americans can find out information that the networks won't give. Hillary's secret religion (cult) known as 'The Family' is a D.C. based group of the richest folks in America who 'pray to Jesus for the elite to rule the world' . The fact that there has been absolutely no mention of her cult leads one to believe that the higher-ups at the networks (and other big corporations) are a part of 'The Family'.....and the plan to rule the world. I know.... it sounds far fetched. You can find a great list of links regarding 'The Family' at www.Blacks4Barack.org. Truthtellers like Huffington, The Nation, Mother Jones and others have all done recent stories about 'The Family'....but where's CNN, MSNBC, Fox or the gang. They all know that there's an internet rumbling going on right now about this cult. But....no mention. Do the research yourselves....check into 'The Family'....once you do....you'll see that it is not only scary....BUT IT MUST BE STOPPED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! LEARN/SHARE !!!!!

Visit: www.Blacks4Barack.org

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Anonymous — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:27:00 -0000

Charlie Gibson and Georgh Stephanopolis to Senator Barak Hussain Obama"

"Who's your Daddy boy?"?

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marc — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:16:00 -0000

isn't abc owned by mickey mouse?

nuff said.

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Ronnie B — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:07:00 -0000

d~

I don't know that people are taking exception with the debates being "unfair". I think people are outraged at the trivial nature of the questions that occupied the first half of it.

That said, an Obama v. McCain debate on the issues of Iraq troop withdrawal, taxes, appropriations, education and health care, would have been "fair" -- and appropriate.

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D. — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:17:00 -0000

Question for all:

If you replaced Clinton with McCain, and the questions were on Revs. Wright and Haggee, not wearing flag pins and not cosponsoring veterans' bills, the Weather Underground and (for sake of argument, cause they're equally controversial) Free Republic...would that have made the debate "fair?

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Ronnie B — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:12:00 -0000

It concludes, "This was a debate for their (superdelegates) benefit, and ABC did the right thing by testing the candidates on the issues that are bound to take center stage in the fall. On these issues, Obama might have stumbled. But he did not commit the kind of catastrophic blunder Clinton needs if she’s to have any hope of winning the nomination."

S~

I respectfully disagree. A gazillion people can't be wrong when they say that ABC's moderation of the debate was an abomination.

Moreover, any suggestion that the ABC debate was some kind of tempering process for "center stage" issues like flag pins and inflammatory pastors, should be treated with a great deal of suspicion and skepticism.

To put it plainly, it's an effort to lull Obama into a muddy cesspool and fight the contest from there ...

rather than on the real issues of the day, where McCain is clearly the weakest.

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TruthSeeker — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:13:00 -0000

Sign petition at www.moveon.org!

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GoldenAh — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:36:00 -0000

Sorry if this is off topic. I like old movies. Watching Sen. Obama makes me think of that classic with Jimmy Stewart, "Mr Smith Goes to Washington."

You'll realize that not much has changed.

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Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:40:00 -0000

I read an interesting analysis of the debate that stated that the debate last night was really a debate for the superdelegates. "The question of electability in the general election is the only one that matters anymore in the race for the Democratic nomination, and ABC’s moderators did a good job because they kept that in mind."

If Hillary is still contesting the nomination in August, she will most likely be asking them to overturn the will of the primary voters and make her the nominee. They will only take such a risk if they are totally convinced that Obama can't win in Novemeber.

How many times have we heard Clinton and Obama argue endlessly over what amounts to a very minor difference in their health-care plans?

More importantly, McCain is not likely to challenge either Clinton or Obama on issues like the environment, interrogation, and health care in the general election. He will challenge them on issues like gun control, foreign policy, and taxes — the issues ABC covered — while outside groups will ensure that their personal controversies are in the public eye as November draws near.

It concludes, "This was a debate for their (superdelegates) benefit, and ABC did the right thing by testing the candidates on the issues that are bound to take center stage in the fall. On these issues, Obama might have stumbled. But he did not commit the kind of catastrophic blunder Clinton needs if she’s to have any hope of winning the nomination."

This sounds about right to me, and will help to prepare Obama for the general election issues to come.

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Lolo — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:12:00 -0000

Pitstop for a refresher and then back out to distibute lawn signs but people ~~

PLEASE, if you can go online to the Obama site and sign up to phone bank, even ONE hour. I can NOT get over how HUNGRY people are to be convinced. The fear, the hope, "do you really think he can win?" "but .... she's got so much experience" "Can he fight as hard as her?"

They WANT to be told "yes" and hear real human beings tell our reasons for being behind this campaign. I hear it over and over and over AGAIN, how people have decided, based on US and OUR beliefs and reasons, to switch and go with their heart in this.

Okay, I'm back out but seriously, ONE hour of phone time would be so wonderful.

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Anonymous — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:11:00 -0000

From: Blacks4Barack.org

ABC,Disney,Time-Warner,CNN, NBC and Fox.....ALL in bed together.......Not so bad that they're against Obama....but they're against America ! They think we're all moronic sheep, swayable by whatever garbage they feed us. Time to prove them wrong starting with ABC/Disney. IT'S BOYCOTT TIME !!!!!! NO ABC....NO DISNEY !!!!!!!!! Time to hit the pockets !

Google 'Hillary's Religion The Family'...(aka Christian Mafia)This secret cult is a group of all of the biggest money people in America wh secretly meet and plan exactly how they are going to control the entire world. CEO's of these networks are members of the cult....the secret mission......CHECK FOR YOURSELVES....ANSWERS A LOT OF QUESTIONS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Visit: Blacks4Barack.org

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SquarePeg — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:26:00 -0000

There stood Obama trying to guide the discussion back to topical issues that affect our daily lives, only being stopped to answer another asinine question.

He should quit trying to parse his words to the point that he sometimes seems unwilling or unknowing in the response he wants to convey. His tortured answers intended to try and not offend the "others" is truly disappointing. Spit it out, just say it. Tell George S. he is full of shit for asking him about someone who committed crimes 40 years ago for which he was not convicted, who now is a leader in the Chicago area regarding efforts to make others lives better. For all the Republicans who often speak of redemption when referring to the little shit in the White House shouldn't others been allowed their redemption and even with that did Obama bombed these buildings when he was 8 years old? Once again the guilt by association is going to be the stick by which the Republicans will try to defeat Obama, they have nothing else.

Obama staying true to his commitment to try and keep above the fray, could have come at Hillary even when she was trying her best to knee cap him, but he did not. He had so many opportunities to do so, but chose not, and Hillary knows this. Here she was looking at what is a decent man that she had to try her best to gorge in order to win a nomination she will not get. She has lost all class and dignity.

Where was her flag pin?

Why was Obama asked to go into Reverend Wright's head and answer the most outrageous question of the night about his patriotism. A man who served in both the Marines and Navy and was the valedictorian of his class. He left college to join the Marines in 1961 to support this country when it didn't support him, and you ask about his patriotism? The little shit!

The curtain has been pulled back, the corporations that have taken over these news operations are now standing naked before you, and now you who depend on them for information, know that you have been manipulated. Hopefully, this will open the eyes of many to the disgraceful and unethical standards of the so-called "liberal media."

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mcc — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:03:00 -0000

Sean Hannity, huh.

Sounds like Fox News got their debate after all...

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Ronnie B — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:50:00 -0000

@truthseeker

I see what your saying, now.

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BT — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:18:00 -0000

Also, did you notice how when they asked Obama about affirmative action they panned to a little Black girl in the audience? Disney owns ABC and I have boycotted Disney all my life. This was disgusting. The media is totally ruining this thing but I think the people will see through this garbage!

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TruthSeeker — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:15:00 -0000

@ ronnie b

You're not getting me...the question was based on a statement by John McCain. Raising taxes is a hot button Republican talking point. A Democratic debate is a competition between the policy positions of the Democratic candidates only.

The footage of the debeate and the "lightening round" where the candidates were forced to talk fast and their answers cut off mid-sentence, will be used by Republicans in the general against Democrats as "gotcha" material. Why do you think they asked them to make pledges? It was a Republican set up, and many Democrats are still too naive to recognize it.

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BT — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:13:00 -0000

I couldn't believe what I saw last night. That was a debate? That was supposed to be professional? Even the tone of the questioners was riduculous and totally disrespectful. The first half was about tabloid junk and deliberately made to bring up every single controversy about Obama. Hillary has clinched it for me. She is a liar and is willing to do absolutely any thing to win. Did you hear he crack about Rev. Wrignt's website being taken over by an undesirable group (I didn't even want to write that but I guess everyone heard it anyway). I can't believe she said that. He forgave her for her missteps but she kept throwing Obama's in his face! So what if he's on a board with some guy with a record, did he choose the board?

That wasn't news, that was an ambush. Hillary Clinton is deplorable. Obama showed that he is presidential material because he always takes the high ground. They let Hillary off and didn't mention any of her controversies except that stupid sniper fire thing. That debate was disgusting! I was in disbelief about what was going on.

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Ronnie B — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:48:00 -0000

Why would a John McCain question about raising taxes be asked in a Deocratic Primary debate?

Truthseeker,

Personally, I didn't mind the taxation questions. Barack needs to see a few fastball pitches from time to time, in order to maintain his reflexes. He is going to be the President, and he should have a command of all of the issues that important to all of the people. Better that he addresses those issues in an open forum; it says that his policy position is strong enough to debate in ANY forum.

That said, ABC didn't have that in mind. It was a hit job.

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Ms.Martin — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:26:00 -0000

Tom Shales of WaPo observed the following and I agree. There were so many things wrong with this debate it will probably take us several days to take them all in.

"To this observer, ABC's coverage seemed slanted against Obama. The director cut several times to reaction shots of such Clinton supporters as her daughter, Chelsea, who sat in the audience at the Kimmel Theater in Philly's National Constitution Center. Obama supporters did not get equal screen time, giving the impression that there weren't any in the hall. The director also clumsily chose to pan the audience at the very start of the debate, when the candidates made their opening statements, so Obama and Clinton were barely seen before the first commercial break."

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Anonymous — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:18:00 -0000

Charles Gibson and George Stephanopoulos should be fired! This was a great opportunity to actually ask about important issues and they didn't. Instead, they asked questions as if they had just watched the first ten seconds of every major story on the campaign trail and the problem with that is that they were irrelevant and silly questions! These are suppose to be newsmen, are you kidding me! The DUMBEST question asked was “Do you think Rev Wright loves America as much as you do”? I was stunned that such a question came out of the mouth of a Journalist. What kind of question is that? And shouldn't George Stephanopolous have to answer for going on Sean Hannity's radio show and letting Hannity feed him the Ayers's story?

The debate last night was embarrassing. It wasn’t even a debate, it was a Clinton controlled questioning session where Clinton was given alot of slack and Obama was interrupted when he had his turn at least over 5 -6 times. Last night, it was obvious that Disney owned, ABC, was not interested in showing an intelligent debate where the social issues that affect all Americans are discussed - - - poor public education system, housing crisis, economy, gas prices and food prices.

There are real problems that plague us right now! However, the first hour of this debate was spent on "controversies" that have been commented on by both candidates over the weeks ad nauseum. I haven’t watched ABC for years, it’s the only network I rank beneath FAUX NEWS and I will never watch it again!!

Below are the email addresses I obtained from the HUFFPO in case anyone wants to write ABC a scathing letter. I just did. <

Natalie.J.Raabe@abc.com">/br>

Natalie.J.Raabe@abc.com, aberke@constitutioncenter.org, feedback@abcnews.go.com, newsradio@abc.com, cristi.d.landes@abc.com, wayne.fisk@abc.com, jeffrey.t.fitzgerald@abc.com, heidi.b.oringer@abc.com, jonathan.m.newman@abc.com, joyce.a.alcantara@abc.com, james.f.kane@abc.com, andrew.l.kalb@abc.com, robert.garcia@abc.com, peter.salinger@abc.com, steve.jones@abc.com

OR CALL ABC NOW: dial 212-456-7777 or 818-460-7477 press 2 then 6 then 639

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TruthSeeker — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:54:00 -0000

It was a Republican set up. All the questions pertained to right wing issues. Why would a John McCain question about raising taxes be asked in a Deocratic Primary debate? Why would all Right Wing talking points be used as questions?

1)The Candidates were given a "lightening round" at the end with one minute to answer questions like gas prices etc. with no rebuttal or follow up questions. They were deliberately made to look bad and prevented from showcasing any positive Democratic policy. It was designed to make them both look bad, but with a focus on Obama.

2)Gibson was personally argumentative with Obama...pressing the issue of Capital Gains in a debate aimed at an economically devastated region. This question seemed personally important to Gibson.

3)And, finally the audience was restrained from applauding in order to create an impression of disagreement.

This whole thing was detrimental to them both, but Obama was the focus as he is expected to win the nomination. It was designed to damage Obama for the Republicans. Hillary was beside the point because they know they can beat her but they FEAR him!

If Clinton was a person of integrity, when she and Obama realized they had been set up, they could have come together and agreed not to answer any more inappropriate questions. They could have walked out together showing Democratic unity. But, it showed Clinton is willing to sacrifice anything to win. It is even possible she had something to do with the setup.

As for the Superdelegates, they should be moving rapidly in the next few days to endorse their candidate (Obama) after witnessing this. Democrats are being made a fool of by Republicans yet again. The danger signs are there and this thing should make Dems furious.

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Ronnie B — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:26:00 -0000

In the short-run, we should expect more of the same. If Clinton-style politicians are threatened by Barack and the new Black leadership that he represents, then the mainstream media is equally threatened and afraid for its current way of life.

We've seen it in the last few months, and we'll continue to see it all the way through November.

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smoothie — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:20:00 -0000

(IN WHISPER) Oh and please you gotta ask the black candidate his thoughts on Affirmative Action..

-----signed

THE GOP

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Big Man — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:14:00 -0000

Lolo

Keep on pushing, keep on pushing.