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Jack and Jill Politics: Afternoon Open Thread

  • Rhoda · 2 months ago
    Juan Williams is a disgusting tool. How that man can look himself in the face every morning is beyond me - to stand up and DEFEND Rush Limbaugh's obviously racist comments and throw smoke for that drugged out fool requires a level of self loathing that is sad. I honestly believe that he gets up every morning, see's President Obama in the White House, looks in the mirror, and blames the world that that's not him.

    It kills him even more when the white folks he shucks and jives for prefer Obama.

    That other dude was on point; especially with telling Williams to go back on the porch.
  • trose1 · 2 months ago
    Thanks for putting this up!!!!!!!!!!
    Warren Ballentine did what so many other AA men on TV are afraid to do. He called out an AA who would sell out their race for acceptance in the white community. Juan Williams does his jig for Oreily whenever Billo calls. disgusting!
    All AA traitors need to be called out as such. I am tired of seeing AA men on TV shuckin, buckin, duckin, jiven, jiggin and lyin.
    Where is the Uncle Tom that was on Sean Hannity's program? Laughing at Obama losing the Chicago Olympics.
  • Miranda · 2 months ago
    Juan Williams is so sad....so very very sad. He is just pathetic.
  • JJai · 2 months ago
    Did y'all already discuss this? Marc Lamont Hill fired.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/16/fox-ne...

    When I read this article all I could think of was "$350 ain't worth your soul" ala' Common.
  • rikyrah · 2 months ago
    all the Slave Catchers, still employed on Fox...but not Dr. Hill.

    uh huh
  • trose1 · 2 months ago
    MLH is cute
  • trose1 · 2 months ago
    Slave catchers.....that is funny!!!!!!
  • lamh32 · 2 months ago
    BWHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAH!!!!

    Good lord,

    David Gergen just shut this GOP strategist down with a sharp knife ya'll.

    The repub was going on and on about how it's a shame that the feds are "paying" people throught organization like Americorps and such to "volunteer" thereby drawing away "volunteers" from local and state orgs. David Gergen asked to respond to that and asked the strategist
    "Terry, how do you feel about the all VOLUNTEER ARMED FORCES, where the gov't pays people who VOLUNTEER to defend the country?"

    The rethug just stuttered!!!
  • rikyrah · 2 months ago
    got a link to a video clip
  • lamh32 · 2 months ago
    It was on the Situation Room strategy sesssion. I don't think CNN posts video of that.

    Too bad!

    Girllllllll I nearly spit out my tropical punch!
  • RonnieB · 2 months ago
    Did Warren tell Juan Williams "you can go back to the porch"?????

    Beautiful.
  • rikyrah · 2 months ago
    yep, that's why I had to find this clip and was so happy when the link was left in replies last night.
  • trose1 · 2 months ago
    Thanks....Rush commented on this on his show today. He is upset that Juan Williams is getting called names.
  • sdwjones · 2 months ago
    He sent Juan "back to the porch" at the end. Priceless.
  • aleth · 2 months ago
    Juan Williams????????

    looked shooked for a sec... Did he just tell me that?
  • Mothsmoke · 2 months ago
    GET READY TO PAY MORE FOR YOUR HEALTH COVERAGE

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33333368/ns/busines...
  • RonnieB · 2 months ago
    Yep, just met with our benefits coordinator yesterday. Deductible is going up $500 bucks. Rx is going up by almost $10.
  • caribgirl · 2 months ago
    I actually think this will help public support for reform especially the public option as millions of people are getting this news over the coming weeks. Democrats just have to get their act together.
  • aleth · 2 months ago
    Juan Williams????????

    Jesus Christ help this man be able to look in the mirror daily
  • caribgirl · 2 months ago
    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/...

    "used a string of crude and racist epithets in additionally calling for the murders of Michelle Obama and the couple's two children "in front of" the president."

    Very sick.
  • Webb · 2 months ago
    LMAO@Warren & Juan--too bad they had to put on "a show" for the Fox News audience.

    Speaking of Harlem, has anyone seen those ShineALight Ads on MSNBC? They feature Harlem and that lady from Law&Order.

    You'd think that campaign was targeted toward AAs based on the ad, but none of the finalists for the $100,000 prize are AA. Something is shady about it; smells of a sham.

    Here's my take on what NBC has done.
  • Mothsmoke · 2 months ago
    I'm puzzled by why you believed that the campaign was targeted toward AAs. The campaign featured commercials not only with S. Epatha Merkerson but also Tom Colicchio (Top Chef). With respect to the commercial S. Epatha Merkeson is in, the owner of the featured restaurant, Moun, is not African American and the diners in the commercial are very diverse -- it was definitely playing up the new Harlem.

    Morever, if you listen to the voiceover, it's clear that they are targeting small businesses. Nothing was said about targeting AAs.
  • djchefron · 2 months ago
    All Their Base Are Belong To GOP
    Posted by Zandar
    James Carville's polling outfit has compiled a report on the Teabagger base of the GOP:

    "They believe Obama is ruthlessly advancing a 'secret agenda' to bankrupt the United States and dramatically expand government control to an extent nothing short of socialism," the analysis said." While these voters are disdainful of a Republican Party they view to have failed in its mission, they overwhelmingly view a successful Obama presidency as the destruction of this country's founding principles and are committed to seeing the president fail."

    The analysis argues that Obama's unpopularity among conservative Republicans is both quantitatively and qualitatively different from liberal Democratic ire against George W. Bush -- that the GOP is more heavily conservative than the Democrats are heavily liberal, and that the hatred of Obama is more intense than Dem hatred of Bush was. All of this adds up to a powerful set of emotions that the Republican Party as a whole cannot ignore.

    One thing that the firm makes clear, though, is that this is not about racism, but about ideology: "Instead of focusing on these intense ideological divisions, the press and elites continue to look for a racial element that drives these voters' beliefs - but they need to get over it. Conducted on the heels of Joe Wilson's incendiary comments at the president's joint session address, we gave these groups of older, white Republican base voters in Georgia full opportunity to bring race into their discussion - but it did not ever become a central element, and indeed, was almost beside the point."

    The massive racism is incidental, you see. They just really, really, really hate Obama to the point of breaking from reality. BooMan plays out what this means for the Republicans in 2010:
    The Republicans have unleashed a beast that they don't seem able to control. Nowhere is this more obvious than in the Sunshine State, where Governor Charlie Crist's campaign for U.S. Senate is starting to look a little wobbly. But, it's also evident in Upstate New York, where a special election is coming up in the 23rd District for the House of Representatives. The Chairman of the NRSC, Sen. John Cornyn of Texas, has wisely sought out candidates who fit their states in Illinois (Mark Kirk), Connecticut (Rob Simmons), Delaware (Mike Castle), New Hampshire (Kelly Ayotte), and Florida (Gov. Crist). But the base of the Republican Party is no match for these "moderates" and, other than Castle, none of them seem assured of winning their primaries. Cornyn certainly has failed to clear the field for them, which means any victory could be pyrrhic if it winds up consuming the entire bankroll and leaves nothing left over for the general election.
    The Village keeps thinking that the Democrats will lose dozens of seats in the House next year. That is possible, but only if the Democrats don't pass their agenda...and even then, the reality is that the Teabaggers want to hijack the Republican party so far over to the right that 90% of the current denizens in the Republican side of the aisle would be tossed for ideological impurity.

    It's actually about a lot more than race: it's about change, real actual honest to goodness change, and the people who have been beaten with the fear stick for the last 30 years have now broken the leash and are loose. The Republicans can't control them anymore, and this hurricane is liable to cost even more GOP incumbent lawmakers their seats than Democrats.

    The GOP civil war is raging. The results will be that the Democrats are the biggest winners of all.
  • djchefron · 2 months ago
    Serena williams may be stripped of title for semi nude pics!
    Serena's naked ESPN pics may cause her to lose her tennis title and some mula: While fans are loving the open stance of the tennis ace, the International Tennis Federation is not amused. The ITA is contemplating stripping the world No. 1 of her berth in the 2010 Australian Open. Further, she can be banned and fined $500,000.

    World number one tennis champ Serena Williams could be stripped of her right to play in the Australian Open in 2010 for baring all for the sports magazine ESPN and for her extraordinary outburst in the US Open semi-finals.
  • RonnieB · 2 months ago
    When the ITA gets around to sanctioning Anna Pornikova for all of the racy little photos snapped of her, then I'll hear their outrage about Serena.

    Til then, they need to get used to seeing an attractive Black woman in racy photos, too.
  • Ladyvenoms · 2 months ago
    they are on some other bulls*** for real. just 2 years ago, serena posed nude for jane magazine and NOTHING was said. plus, another player ashley hakelroad posed for playboy and was even put on the cover. no one said anything about sanctioning her.

    nope. no way.
  • JeffL · 2 months ago
    Obama to GOP: "Grab a mop!"

    This is great Obama stuff.

    From NicolasC at DK:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/10/16/794111...
  • JeffL · 2 months ago
  • djchefron · 2 months ago
    Sorry didnt see your post
  • lamh32 · 2 months ago
    I still can't get over that damn boy in the balloon.

    I'm sure I missed it, but has anyone linked the interracial couple not being allowed to be married with the gay marriage fight?
  • Mothsmoke · 2 months ago
    They are now married. I have not read or heard anyone linking the two but I see a fundamental difference between them. In the majority of states, gays and lesbians are not permitted to marry and do not have have the same protections and rights as hetero couples, on the federal level. The justice of the peace in La. broke the law by not marrying the couple. He admits that he broke the law because he believes that interracial marriage is "wrong." In former case, the law specifically proscribes it, in the latter the law specifically permits it.

    BTW, before she passed, Mildred Loving gave her support for gays and lesbians to marry.
  • lamh32 · 2 months ago
    Wow,

    Did ya'll hear that college crowd in College Station, Texas when President Obama came on?

    He is definitely not losing the young people
  • djchefron · 2 months ago
    Obama to GOP: "Grab a Mop." This is political gold (and we need to use it)
    by NicolasC
    Share this on Twitter - Obama to GOP: "Grab a Mop." This is political gold (and we need to use it) Fri Oct 16, 2009 at 01:35:21 PM PDT
    I'm sure that, like me, you can see it coming, from now through 2010.

    You've banged your head against the wall hearing conservative pundits on TV complain about Obama's deficit spending as if he didn't inherit a $1.5 trillion deficit the day he took his new job, as if the vast majority of our national debt didn't accumulate under the presidencies of Reagan and W. Bush. You hear them blame Obama for job losses spurred by a financial crisis whose roots go back long before he even announced his candidacy. They even blamed him for the low Dow the day he was inaugurated, though of course with the Dow now hitting 10,000 those criticisms have long vanished.

    You hear all this and it becomes clear: they want to pass their mess off as his. And the longer it takes him to clean it up, the more they think they'll be able to fool people into believing it.

    NicolasC's diary :: :: Well, I personally believe a strong healthcare bill with a public option is going to pass by year's end or shortly thereafter (my money is on a state opt-out compromise; and my further money is on no state opting-out). I also think Obama's backloaded stimulus is going to spur some real growth in the coming months, so their strategy will be an epic fail, come 2010 and 2012.

    But in the meantime, Obama's come up with political gold to counter any attempt to pass a Republican mess off as his own, or criticize him for not cleaning it up fast enough. And we need to repeat it ad infinitum and scream it from rooftops. This needs to become the political catchphrase of the next year.

    Obama, October 15 at a DNC fundraiser in San Francisco:

    What I reject is when some folks say we should go back to the past policies when it was those very same policies that got us into this mess in the first place. (Applause.)

    Another way of putting it is when, you know, I'm busy and Nancy's busy with our mop cleaning up somebody else's mess --- we don't want somebody sitting back saying, you're not holding the mop the right way. (Applause.) Why don't you grab a mop, why don't you help clean up. (Applause.) You're not mopping fast enough. (Laughter.) That's a socialist mop. (Laughter and applause.) Grab a mop -- let's get to work.

    Andrew Sullivan, over at the Daily Dish, knows gold when he sees it:

    It's an inspired three-word challenge to the GOP. Devastating, actually - because it both reminds people of the damage the GOP did while not seeming to dwell on the past or to score partisan points (while actually doing both).

    Now, understand here, I'm not trying to head off legitimate, substantive criticism of the president or his policies, be they from the left or the right. There's plenty of that and no three-word catch slogan could or should diminish those. But as a counter to the brain-dead, disingenuous, hypocritical, and often baseless criticism from the people whose messes he is cleaning, it doesn't get any better than this.

    As one of Andrew Sullivan's readers put it:

    If a Republican president had come up with this slogan, it would immediately have been put up as the main headline on Drudge (red font & siren optional), which inevitably leads to the main topic of conversation on conservative radio. Every damn Republican representative would be working every interview around those three words and the national narrative would be created ... unfortunately these are the Dems we're talking about, so the only people who will ever hear this are the ones politically interested enough to read blogs such as yours.

    Sadly, (s)he's probably right. Unless we start hammering these words in now any time we see hypocritical and brain-dead talking points.

    Republicans, you want to help this country? Then STFU and...GRAB A MOP!
    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/10/16/79...)
  • Sepia · 2 months ago
    If a Republican president had come up with this slogan, it would immediately have been put up as the main headline on Drudge (red font & siren optional), which inevitably leads to the main topic of conversation on conservative radio. Every damn Republican representative would be working every interview around those three words and the national narrative would be created ... unfortunately these are the Dems we're talking about, so the only people who will ever hear this are the ones politically interested enough to read blogs such as yours.

    That's cuz the slogan can easily apply to some Dems/progressives.
  • Miranda · 2 months ago
    'Grab a Mop"...........that has bootleg Tees and caps written ALL OVER IT....LOL! You're right...that's political "catchphrase" gold...and no doubt some "entreprenour" will take advantage of it.
  • lamh32 · 2 months ago
    Putting aside the healthcare debate for a minute, this seems about right:

    How Do You Solve a Problem Like Olympia
    The Republicans' famed discipline is cracking. As Politico's Lisa Lerer and Manu Raju reported this week, Lindsey Graham's wheeling and dealing on global warming. And, of course, Olympia Snowe is the lady of the hour, week and month on health care (as much as Nancy Pelosi downplays her importance).

    How does the GOP prevent defections? Well, with Senator Grassley it was widely rumored that the leadership threatened his ranking status on Judiciary Committee when his time as top Republican on the Finance Committee expires at the end of this cycle. Other Republicans get threats of being primaried – as Utah Senator Bob Bennett is now facing for signing on to Oregon Democrat Ron Wyden's bipartisan health care bill.

    But there's really nothing much they can do with Snowe. Rumors swirl that she risks her ranking status on the Commerce Committee – but any real moves against her could result in her bolting the party. Maine loves her enough to keep electing her no matter what letter is next to her name: R, D, or I. And we know she's been approached and courted heavily by Majority Leader Harry Reid. So, how does the GOP solve a problem like Olympia? The answer is: they don't
  • Plantsmantx · 2 months ago
    On Newsvine, some of the very same people who are defending Limbaugh are attacking Ballentine for saying this to Juan Williams.
  • trose1 · 2 months ago
    Ballentine is my hero. He has his tin foil hat on many days but he said what many AA's have wanted to say for years to Juan Williams.
  • CPL · 2 months ago
    Warren is a friend of mine and when I had dinner with him in DC two years ago, he warned everyone within earshot that if he ever got the chance to call out Juan Williams on National TV, he would do it FOR FREE.

    Way to go, Warren! He kept his promise! LMAO!!!!!!!!1
  • Plantsmantx · 2 months ago
    What's funny about it, and not necessarily "ha ha" funny, is that the right-wing, hostile-to-blacks whites seem to think that Ballentine was indirectly calling Williams a "porch monkey". I think they're projecting.
  • Miranda · 2 months ago
    He wasnt calling Juan a "porch monkey"??.....oh, maybe that was me.
  • Plantsmantx · 2 months ago
    Well...let's just say that I'm glad none of those right wing whites will see this comment...especially after I came up with that whole explanation as to why he couldn't have meant "porch monkey"...ahem!!

    LOL.

    I took it as an allusion to the saying "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch", and that's what I told 'em.

    cough.
  • trose1 · 2 months ago
    Juan williams explained what it meant on Billo's show tonight. He knows exactly what it meant. LMAO
  • Plantsmantx · 2 months ago
    What did Juan Williams think it meant? I don't want to watch Bill O'Reilly to find out.
  • trose1 · 2 months ago
    He stated that it was "code" in the AA community as an Uncle Tom a House Negro. He was very upset....LMAO
  • Plantsmantx · 2 months ago
    Well, of course he would say that. The sympathy he gets will eventually be transformed into dollars, so I have no doubt he's working it for all it's worth.
  • rikyrah · 2 months ago
    I took it as..

    take your House NIGGA ASS BACK ON THE PORCH TO WAIT FOR MASSA TO LET YOU BACK IN THE HOUSE..

    but, that's just me.
  • CPL · 2 months ago
    They are projecting, Miranda.

    Personally, I wished that Warren told him to go back to holding that lantern on the lawn.

    Most AAs KNOW what that means....LOL

    But...porch monkey fits Juan to a Tee... just sayin'
  • GreenLadyHere · 2 months ago
    rikyrah: SPEAKIN' of the COLLEGE CAMPUS SCENE [as in HU], - - - ta-rip this:

    New dress code for men of Morehouse

    The young men of Morehouse College in Atlanta have gotten the word — no more baggy pants on campus.

    Further, no sunglasses inside, no “do-rags” or hoods or high-heeled shoes, no jeans at major events, no lewd messages on clothing and nothing normally worn by women.

    It’s all part of a new dress code at Morehouse, a historically African-American college, an effort to “get back to the legacy” of school leaders, Dr. William Bynum, vice president of the Office of Student Services told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

    “We expect our young men to be Renaissance men,” said Bynum. “When people go about campus we want them to represent the college in an appropriate manner.”

    So far, the new code has earned mixed reviews.


    I [along with other JJP FAM members] chimed in on the HU "EVENT!" :>)

    On this one - - - a little ambivalent. Hmmmmm.

    WHAT SAY YE'ALL?? :>)
  • Miranda · 2 months ago
    Hey GLH!

    Personally I'm glad they have implemented the dress code, and from what I've heard, most of the students are too.
  • eclecticbrotha · 2 months ago
    I'm all for it. Our young men need to pull their pants up and stop promoting prison yard culture.
  • Miranda · 2 months ago
    That's not even close to the worst of it. Students were wearing heels and tube tops to class. It. Had. To. Stop.
  • RobM · 2 months ago
    No more high heeled shoes.......
    After having one member of their community shoot another it is time to clean up their act. As long as there are more actions to improve the conduct of Morehouse students I am all for it. If this is just for show....
  • eclecticbrotha · 2 months ago
    Its typical of the FOX nuts to beg forgiveness of comments Rush Limbaugh made in the past after claiming Obama was unfit to be president due to stuff his pastor said or things Bill Ayers said in an interview.
  • GreenLadyHere · 2 months ago
    eclecticbrotha: THANK U VERY MUCH 4 respondin' 2 the "MOREHOUSE MATTER." :>)

    The original and your response R LOST! IN! SPACE!! SORRY! :>)

    I appreciate your input!

    Loved the prison yard culture. . :>) Nice imagery!! :>)

    AGAIN, THANK U!! :>)
  • Miranda · 2 months ago
    Why Did 1 In 7 Girls Get Pregnant At Robeson High?
    Officials Say A Mix Of Factors Are To Blame, As They Try To Help The Young Women

    CHICAGO (CBS) ― It is a Chicago public school full of energy and spirit. It has about 800 girls, and 115 of them have something in common – something you might find disturbing.
    CBS 2's Kristyn Hartman reports.

    All those young ladies are moms or moms-to-be at Paul Robeson High School. It's not a school for young mothers, it's a neighborhood school. And all of the pregnancies have happened, despite prevention talk.

    If you want to know why, the people closest to the situation say there's no simple explanation.
    Full Story: http://cbs2chicago.com/local/Robeson.High.Schoo...
  • trose1 · 2 months ago
    I hope people are checking out Juan williams with another Black man hating on Warren. They are hillarious. This one Black man looked like he was going to cry over Rush.

    Fox is finding more house negroes to come out loving Rush Limbaugh.
  • Miranda · 2 months ago
    Juan Williams....Karrine Steffans called, she wants her title back.
  • GreenLadyHere · 2 months ago
    HEEEEEY Miranda: ***BIG HUG**** :>)

    THANK U VERY MUCH 4 your response on the "MOREHOUSE MATTER." :>)

    My post & the REPLIES got - - LOST! IN! SPACE!! SORRY!!:>)

    I wondered what the - -REAL DEAL was from the STUDENTS. The article was FUZZY!! :>)

    Sooooo, THANK U!! :>)

    Ima CO-SIGN at this point!! :>)
  • texascowgirl · 2 months ago
    Juan Williams almost made me vomit in my mouth I was so disgusted with him. Forget going back to the porch, this fool is happy to sleep in the doghouse.
  • CPL · 2 months ago
    Give him the lantern, since he insists on being the Lawn Jockey Extraordinaire.

    He must still be pissed off that he got sacked by WaPo for sexually harassing all those white women he used to work with.

    Can't get mad at your employer for UPHOLDING THE LAW.

    So, Juan schills on Fake Noise and got bitch slapped by Warren Ballentine.

    But El Rushbo has a lot of House Negroes on his payroll so look for them to climb out from under their rocks on this one.
  • trose1 · 2 months ago
    Those who are coming out under the rocks look a mess.
  • angee · 2 months ago
    stephen a. smith is their newest jockey.
    Amazing what a brotha will do for a dollar. Give them hell Warren! Did you all catch the part when he said in response to juan, "Real African Americans." Priceless.
    My sister told me about Warren during the primaries, but unfortunately I can't get him in NC. Seems like he is all that she said.
  • trose1 · 2 months ago
    the vomit reference made me think of balloon boy
  • TiredOfThePhonies · 2 months ago
    Recent comments by Limbaugh can be found at Media Matters and FAIR, by date made. You can see the VIDEOs and hear the AUDIOs.

    Partial listing because the entire list requires too much space.

    http://mediamatters.org/research/200910130049

    * Obama "wants us to have the same health care and plan that he had in Kenya" and "wants to be the black FDR."
    * Sotomayor "a reverse racist" appointed by Obama, "the greatest living example of a reverse racist."
    * "God does not have a birth certificate. Neither does Obama"; Obama "has yet to prove he's a citizen."
    * "Here you have a black president trying to destroy a white policeman."
    * Suggests Obama would not have acted on Somali pirates if he'd known they were "actually young, black Muslim teenagers."
    * "The government's been taking care of young blacks their whole lives."
    * "The days of minorities not having any power are over, and they are angry."
    * "Minorities never do anything for which they have to apologize."
    * "NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons.
    * Basketball "the favorite sport of gangs."
    -----

    http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3928

    * "You can't criticize the little black man-child. You just can't do it, 'cause it's just not right. It's not fair. He's such a victim."
    * "We are being told that we have to hope he succeeds, that we have to bend over, grab the ankles, bend over forward, backward, whichever, because his father was black, because this is the first black president."
    * "In Obama's America, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering, 'right on, right on, right on.'"
    * Praised former segregationist Sen. Strom Thurmond for calling a gay soldier "not normal": "He's not encumbered by being politically correct.... If you want to know what America used to be--and a lot of people wish it still were--then you listen to Strom Thurmond."
    * When Spike Lee urged that black schoolchildren get off from school to see his film Malcolm X: "Spike, if you're going to do that, let's complete the education experience. You should tell them that they should loot the theater, and then blow it up on their way out."
    * Dismissed a black caller by saying, "Take that bone out of your nose and call me back."
    * "Have you ever noticed how all newspaper composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?"
    * Discussing a Chicago inner-city schoolteacher punished for using a math question that focused on the price of prostitution and cocaine habits, Limbaugh suggested that the teacher should be credited for "understanding the culture these kids come from." The math question began: "Rufus is pimping three girls."

    Juan Williams is just another despicable excuse for a black man.