DISQUS

Jack and Jill Politics: Back To Philly

  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    Were there really 40,000 there tonight Jack?
  • Admiral Komack · 1 year ago
    PHILADELPHIA — "Barack Obama was greeted by the largest crowd of his campaign Friday night in Philadelphia. Some 35,000 people jammed into Independence Park to see the Democratic presidential candidate, four days before this state's crucial April 22 primary."


    "Frank Friel, director of security at the Independence Visitor Center, made the official estimate."



    "The crowd exceed the 30,000 who greeted Obama and Oprah Winfrey in December in Columbia, S.C."



    -AP

    (Huffington Post)
  • Lolo · 1 year ago
    !!!! I am so freaking hyped and wired and tired and wound up and this added to it. 40 thousand people! Oh! Were they .... bitter? Hahahaha.


    http://separate-equal.net/?p=499 This is what I've got in Berks County (and yes, we do sometimes call it Jerks County but that's cuz we're so bitter) and Obama's speaking here on Sunday! I would squeal but I'm so whipped I'm almost drooling when I open my mouth.



    Go! O!ba!ma!!
  • Chicana Skies · 1 year ago
    Yup, 35,000. I'm currently writing up my account of tonight on my blog, and I've uploaded a video (with another one on the way!)


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie6I3yHJips
  • justice58 · 1 year ago
    35,000 people!


    Oh My God!



    Oh My God!
  • Chicana Skies · 1 year ago
    Alright folks


    Second video is up



    the best part was the aftermath, happy people celebrating in the streets of philadelphia



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYUkyvpA_a8
  • Texas Girl in L.A. · 1 year ago
    Here is a slideshow from dailykos


    http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2008/4/18/22105/1053/251#c251



    pretty awesome!
  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    I'm going to tell you, looking at pics and video, I realize why I support Obama as a candidate. WHO ELSE is bringing crowds like that together?


    WHO ELSE?



    It looks like AMERICA.



    And, isn't that what we want?
  • The Bag of Health and Politics · 1 year ago
    Going pretty well in the rural area of PA just up the road from Hagerstown. It'll be closer than expected in Franklin County. I'll write more about it later. Don't get your hopes up--Obama will lose the state, but it's not going to be a disaster. I think it'll be a near dead heat.
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    This gave me chills! I heard people marched on the street chanting "Obama" and "Yes we can". Amazing!


    No more freakin' debates, Obama needs to talk directly to the people.
  • Lolo · 1 year ago
    I'm so anxious and about to crawl out of my skin. Waiting to make my next shift and you guys! we have a bus that's been voluteered due to the number of folks that are turning out to canvas and get out the vote.


    I have to take a chill pill or something because this is so stressful. I swear, she's going to pull something.



    Oh, heh. She's also having a rally here today and uh, almost a HUNDRED people showed up for tickets.... I would laugh harder but too scared about jinxing.
  • justice58 · 1 year ago
    Lolo,


    Take a deep breath! You're doing good & you're going to get through this!



    I got chills just watching the slide & videos!



    It was so awesome!
  • RhondaCoca · 1 year ago
    Wow. Great!! I was volunteering but I left because I am busy back here in NY!! I wish I was there!!
  • Craig Hickman · 1 year ago
    Just saw Mrs. Nixon on CNN.com at a rally in a high school.


    She looks horrid.



    She's hoarse, and coughing, and looking very pitiful.



    This must be a twist on her New Hampshire ploy.
  • Craig Hickman · 1 year ago
    Obama airs two new adds in PA today:


    Afford





    Reason
  • Nichelle · 1 year ago
    Bikers for Obama in PA (via Bill Maher). Interesting video.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v2myDJmmCs&feature;=related
  • Michelle · 1 year ago
    Wow, those photos in the slideshow, Texas Girl in L.A., thanks for posting that.


    The one that got to me the most was #11 -- when I heard about the rally and saw a few pictures last night, I unconsciously filled in a detail that wasn't there: I pictured him up an elevated stage at the front.



    Then I see this picture here

    and this one



    And see how he is basically surrounded by all those beautiful people. And in the first one I linked, I can see how he is standing on this teeny tiny little barely raised platform .... yeah I see the Secret Service suits and all (glad they're there), but this physically embodied trust and lack of distance moves me.



    *goes off to make another donation from my family* (well, we were planning to donate again this weekend anyway, but now I get to do it with these images in my eyes)
  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    This is from a DailyKos Diary:


    PS: The image most burnt in my mind from last night that did not make it to the memory card of my camera is this one.



    Walking up Market Street toward the 30th Street train station in the midst of the impromptu Obama parade that marched along chanting OBAMA and YES WE CAN a black Nisan Mirano (I think not entirely sure of make) passed. They were turning off market onto 11th I believe. In the passenger seat was an elderly black woman in her 80s. A young man was driving who I presumed to be her son, as his hand stretch across and rested on her shoulder. Our eyes locked for second and I noticed her tears of joy. I can’t imagine what it’s like for an old black woman who’s probably seen her share of bigotry and struggle against racism and intolerance. To watch as almost 40,000 blacks, whites, Asians, Hispanics, and just about every other race and creed paraded by chanting the name of a black man.. A black man for president.

    Had my camera been out, I would not have had the gall to shove it against her window and capture that look of joy, to interfere with that moment... but I wish you could have seen it.





    I've written before that I believe, whatever disappointments I have with Obama, that my vote for him ultimately is for:

    a) my mother, born in Jim Crow Mississippi

    b) my great-niece,not a month old



    Reading this solidifies this for me.
  • Craig Hickman · 1 year ago
    rikyrah, that's a striking image.
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    Two great articles on Huffington post where reporters go undercover to volunteer at both the Clinton and Obama campaigns:


    I Was a Clinton Volunteer



    I Was an Obama Volunteer
  • Vida · 1 year ago
    Beautiful write up of the rally, Chicana Skies, and thanks for the videos. This kind of solidarity that crosses racial, class and generational lines makes me so hopeful that a change is gonna come!
  • haale · 1 year ago
    "Our eyes locked for second and I noticed her tears of joy. I can’t imagine what it’s like for an old black woman who’s probably seen her share of bigotry and struggle against racism and intolerance. To watch as almost 40,000 blacks, whites, Asians, Hispanics, and just about every other race and creed paraded by chanting the name of a black man.. A black man for president. "


    Wow I was moved to tears just reading this. Since Obama's been on the scene, I seem to cry alot. I know there's only so much he can do and I don't agree with him on everything but for the first time in years...dare I be cliche...I have hope.
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    On CNN Conversations with Black America, they are interviewing Bob Johnson where he is defending Geraldine Ferraro's comments.


    Rick on the Road and the reporter who interviewed Johnson are giving each other five on why the blacks shouldn't attack these Clinton supporters because they don't support Obama.





    THEY ARE STARTING THIS BULLSHIT AGAIN.



    Presenting the story as an absolute and without an opposing point of view.



    First of all, Johnson is trying to say that blacks were support Obama and he benefitted from being black by having the black support - fallacy - Obama did not start off with 90% of the black vote, Hillary chased them to him - PERIOD.



    I can't believe this journalism. They are going to interview Johnson all week and let him submit his opinion as truth - I CANT BELIEVE THIS!!!!!
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    On CNN Conversations with Black America, they are interviewing Bob Johnson where he is defending Geraldine Ferraro's comments.


    Rick on the Road and the reporter who interviewed Johnson are giving each other five on why the blacks shouldn't attack these Clinton supporters because they don't support Obama.





    THEY ARE STARTING THIS BULLSHIT AGAIN.



    Presenting the story as an absolute and without an opposing point of view.



    First of all, Johnson is trying to say that blacks were support Obama and he benefitted from being black by having the black support - fallacy - Obama did not start off with 90% of the black vote, Hillary chased them to him - PERIOD.



    I can't believe this journalism. They are going to interview Johnson all week and let him submit his opinion as truth - I CANT BELIEVE THIS!!!!!
  • Val · 1 year ago
    Another interesting article. LOL


    http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/04/19/hillarys-invisible-touch/
  • Val · 1 year ago
    White Catholic Priest defends Rev Wright


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiSutcBArDU



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBKeCIDGvwY&feature;=related
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    Is Rick Sanchez is the dumbest, wackiest sob on tv!
  • Angela · 1 year ago
    I will say it every day... the Obama supporters CANNOT and WILLNOT be dismissed!


    And for all those pundits out there...we are of all colors and ethnicities.....believe it!!



    I think we should start putting together a coalition to protest in Denver. We have to be prepared to fight against the Clintons big money supporters.



    It is clear that the Clinton wants to fight this to the end....and we should be prepared for it.



    Lets get ready now...we can't wait until the last minute.



    Those of us who can't get to Denver might be able to donate funds to help those of us who can get to Denver.



    If we have to become a tent city...so be it.
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    Truthseeker:


    And a few other things you didn't say.
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    Angela:


    Good Idea. Also, they know that Obama has all kinds of supporters and that is the beauty of his campaign.



    They want to invoke feelings of those rural ethnic voters who they think will vote race. So once again, they are putting the black voter out their to raise emotions in folks who they think will vote against Obama.
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    CNN is pressing hard for Hillary this weekend.


    It's another Hillaryfest.
  • Angela · 1 year ago
    dear ms martin;


    it takes time to coordinate this kind of effort...that is why I say we need to start planning now!!!!
  • andyfrombrooklyn · 1 year ago
    dear jack and jill, my suggestion for all obamaholics is to stay away from the boob tube this weekend. the media declared their intentions for pa. on weds with the abc debate. activate but lets not torture ourselves watching the propaganda. we know what they are doing and it sucks but watching it gives it more consideration than it deserves.
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    I agree that we need to fight, but I think there's a more urgent fight with the media that needs to take place prior to May 6.


    I don't think that it will go to Denver. I believe the Superdelegates will step in on May 6.



    While I angered by the recycling of old bs, I don't believe it will work.



    If you feel as though it will take a fight in Denver, then by all means, you should begin enlisting support.
  • Angela · 1 year ago
    It may not get to Denver, but, I think if the DNC and the super dels are aware that we are organizing to demonstrate in Denver, they will take our support for Obama much more seriously.


    This is a once in a life time opportunity we cannot let escape us.
  • Angela · 1 year ago
    and by the way...how many times do you have to read in the paper that Hillary herself said she wants this to be a fight in Denver????


    I've heard her say it, it isn't my imagination!
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    Angela:


    I know it's not your imagination, I just really don't believe it's going that far.



    There were two events of late that had to affirm Obama's support to the Supers; 1. the protests of ABC and 2. the crowds at those rallies in PA.



    There is a school of thought that says the Supers don't really care about the portion of the Democratic party that supports Obama and that what they really care about is the candidate who can win the general.



    I believe that the numbers in PA and Indiana will determine which way they move.
  • Angela · 1 year ago
    ms martin;


    my wish is you are right...I just believe in being prepared. I sent a note to Moveon.org asking if they have contingency plans.
  • Angela · 1 year ago
    fyi from the Boise Weekly


    "There would certainly be street protests in Denver.



    "I will, without doubt, march at the convention if there is even a remote chance on the nomination being stolen," promises a typical poster at the liberal blog Daily Kos.



    Blogger Al Giordano predicts: "It won't be the chaotic street protest and battle with the cops that occurred in '68: we've learned too much from that. It will be organized, Gandhian in its adherence to discipline and nonviolence, and more massive than anything maybe ever seen in the United States' long history of social movements. If the party leaders choose to destroy democracy by denying the fair-and-square winner the nomination, democracy will then be duty bound to destroy the party ... The big news is that, for the first time in decades, a black-white alliance from the street will be possible: Montgomery 1955 meets Seattle 1999 in Denver 2008."
  • justice58 · 1 year ago
    " The big news is that, for the first time in decades, a black-white alliance from the street will be possible: Montgomery 1955 meets Seattle 1999 in Denver 2008."
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    Hello!
  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    Saw him tonight on C-Span in Harrisburg. I think he was rejuventated by that crowd in Philly last night. He had the spring back in his step. And, whatever else you want to say about Senator Casey, he has totally stepped up to the bat for Obama.
  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    I think the release of the attack on MoveOn.org was meant for the audience of the Superdelegates. Frantic though they may be, they show up with BODIES AND MONEY AND LOTS OF BOTH OF THEM. A modern Democrat can't get elected without their dedication, and now, they know, Moveon won't do shit for Hillpatine.
  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    Val,


    That priest is Father Michael Pfleger. I've written about him. He's very good people.
  • Craig Hickman · 1 year ago
    rikyrah, I agree wholeheartedly.


    Bob Casey is a quiet hero in all of this.



    If Obama keeps it close and/or pulls of an upset, he will have to get a lot of credit.





    And he's a Catholic, conservative democrat



    The symbolism of the Pope, who some call a Nazi, traveling around the US for his first time talking about hope, criticizing the Iraq war, and advocating for social justice ...
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    Craig Hickman


    The timing of his visit couldn't have been better.
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    Pat Buchanan is on MSNBC's coverage of the Papal vist trying to associate a connection between the Catholic voter's and Hillary Clinton as it relates to the Pope's message.


    I don't recall Hillary having said anything about hope - in fact she laughs at hope.



    I don't recall Hillary saying anything about racial equality - she's counting on the hatred of those who are against it.



    Hillary's message is experience and ridicule - that it's.



    He said that Catholics couldn't relate to Obama because of the protestant style that Obama mimics; that of the King style.



    I say Pat and CNN are trying to spin it because the Pope's message is so similiar to Obama's.
  • justice58 · 1 year ago
    MS.Martin,


    You're so right! The Pope's message is in line with what Barack is all about and has been from the beginning! Trust me--they know it!



    How quickly the pundits forget how she mocked hope in RI!





    Pat Buchanan can't stand to give Barack his due. And he won't accept the fact Barack could/will become the Democratic Nominee!
  • Craig Hickman · 1 year ago
    This is for Pat BuKKKanon.


    I'm sure there are some Catholics among these:



    Irish writers/artists weigh in behind Obama



    The As is Here



    Double-click on the page to zoom in and read it to see who signed it.



    Ishmael Reed (Afro-Irish) is on the list.
  • Craig Hickman · 1 year ago
    The AD not the As is in the second link.
  • Val · 1 year ago
    Ms Martin - I agree. When I heard the Pope speaking much of his speech was similar to the one Barack has been giving. I thought the same thing - Catholics have no choice but to se the similarities and having the Pope repeat pretty much the same verbage will help with Barack's campaign.
  • Angela · 1 year ago
    do not delude yourselves... I happen to know Irish Catholics who are very anti blacks. I lived in Mass.


    these people I know are very prejudiced..
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    Angela


    I'm not deluded, hopefully the Pope will touch a few hearts.



    I'm not Catholic and his message resonated with me and I'm sure many others.
  • mj · 1 year ago
    Here is a link to that Irish American Writers & Artists for Obama ad that Craig Hickman mentioned before. http://edition.pagesuite-professional.co.uk/Lau...