Jack and Jill Politics - Latest Comments in Back To Philly

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mj — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:37:00 -0000

Here is a link to that Irish American Writers & Artists for Obama ad that Craig Hickman mentioned before. http://edition.pagesuite-professional.co.uk/Lau...

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Ms.Martin — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:54:00 -0000

Angela

I'm not deluded, hopefully the Pope will touch a few hearts.

I'm not Catholic and his message resonated with me and I'm sure many others.

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Angela — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:25:00 -0000

do not delude yourselves... I happen to know Irish Catholics who are very anti blacks. I lived in Mass.

these people I know are very prejudiced..

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Val — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:05:00 -0000

Ms Martin - I agree. When I heard the Pope speaking much of his speech was similar to the one Barack has been giving. I thought the same thing - Catholics have no choice but to se the similarities and having the Pope repeat pretty much the same verbage will help with Barack's campaign.

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Craig Hickman — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:57:00 -0000

The AD not the As is in the second link.

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Craig Hickman — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:56:00 -0000

This is for Pat BuKKKanon.

I'm sure there are some Catholics among these:

Irish writers/artists weigh in behind Obama

The As is Here

Double-click on the page to zoom in and read it to see who signed it.

Ishmael Reed (Afro-Irish) is on the list.

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justice58 — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:12:00 -0000

MS.Martin,

You're so right! The Pope's message is in line with what Barack is all about and has been from the beginning! Trust me--they know it!

How quickly the pundits forget how she mocked hope in RI!

Pat Buchanan can't stand to give Barack his due. And he won't accept the fact Barack could/will become the Democratic Nominee!

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Ms.Martin — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:34:00 -0000

Pat Buchanan is on MSNBC's coverage of the Papal vist trying to associate a connection between the Catholic voter's and Hillary Clinton as it relates to the Pope's message.

I don't recall Hillary having said anything about hope - in fact she laughs at hope.

I don't recall Hillary saying anything about racial equality - she's counting on the hatred of those who are against it.

Hillary's message is experience and ridicule - that it's.

He said that Catholics couldn't relate to Obama because of the protestant style that Obama mimics; that of the King style.

I say Pat and CNN are trying to spin it because the Pope's message is so similiar to Obama's.

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Ms.Martin — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 12:27:00 -0000

Craig Hickman

The timing of his visit couldn't have been better.

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Craig Hickman — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 10:10:00 -0000

rikyrah, I agree wholeheartedly.

Bob Casey is a quiet hero in all of this.

If Obama keeps it close and/or pulls of an upset, he will have to get a lot of credit.

And he's a Catholic, conservative democrat

The symbolism of the Pope, who some call a Nazi, traveling around the US for his first time talking about hope, criticizing the Iraq war, and advocating for social justice ...

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rikyrah — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 03:48:00 -0000

Val,

That priest is Father Michael Pfleger. I've written about him. He's very good people.

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rikyrah — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 03:43:00 -0000

I think the release of the attack on MoveOn.org was meant for the audience of the Superdelegates. Frantic though they may be, they show up with BODIES AND MONEY AND LOTS OF BOTH OF THEM. A modern Democrat can't get elected without their dedication, and now, they know, Moveon won't do shit for Hillpatine.

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rikyrah — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 03:41:00 -0000

Saw him tonight on C-Span in Harrisburg. I think he was rejuventated by that crowd in Philly last night. He had the spring back in his step. And, whatever else you want to say about Senator Casey, he has totally stepped up to the bat for Obama.

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justice58 — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:23:00 -0000

" The big news is that, for the first time in decades, a black-white alliance from the street will be possible: Montgomery 1955 meets Seattle 1999 in Denver 2008."
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Hello!

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Angela — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:51:00 -0000

fyi from the Boise Weekly

"There would certainly be street protests in Denver.

"I will, without doubt, march at the convention if there is even a remote chance on the nomination being stolen," promises a typical poster at the liberal blog Daily Kos.

Blogger Al Giordano predicts: "It won't be the chaotic street protest and battle with the cops that occurred in '68: we've learned too much from that. It will be organized, Gandhian in its adherence to discipline and nonviolence, and more massive than anything maybe ever seen in the United States' long history of social movements. If the party leaders choose to destroy democracy by denying the fair-and-square winner the nomination, democracy will then be duty bound to destroy the party ... The big news is that, for the first time in decades, a black-white alliance from the street will be possible: Montgomery 1955 meets Seattle 1999 in Denver 2008."

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Angela — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:43:00 -0000

ms martin;

my wish is you are right...I just believe in being prepared. I sent a note to Moveon.org asking if they have contingency plans.

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Ms.Martin — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:35:00 -0000

Angela:

I know it's not your imagination, I just really don't believe it's going that far.

There were two events of late that had to affirm Obama's support to the Supers; 1. the protests of ABC and 2. the crowds at those rallies in PA.

There is a school of thought that says the Supers don't really care about the portion of the Democratic party that supports Obama and that what they really care about is the candidate who can win the general.

I believe that the numbers in PA and Indiana will determine which way they move.

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Angela — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:13:00 -0000

and by the way...how many times do you have to read in the paper that Hillary herself said she wants this to be a fight in Denver????

I've heard her say it, it isn't my imagination!

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Angela — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:10:00 -0000

It may not get to Denver, but, I think if the DNC and the super dels are aware that we are organizing to demonstrate in Denver, they will take our support for Obama much more seriously.

This is a once in a life time opportunity we cannot let escape us.

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Ms.Martin — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:06:00 -0000

I agree that we need to fight, but I think there's a more urgent fight with the media that needs to take place prior to May 6.

I don't think that it will go to Denver. I believe the Superdelegates will step in on May 6.

While I angered by the recycling of old bs, I don't believe it will work.

If you feel as though it will take a fight in Denver, then by all means, you should begin enlisting support.

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andyfrombrooklyn — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:05:00 -0000

dear jack and jill, my suggestion for all obamaholics is to stay away from the boob tube this weekend. the media declared their intentions for pa. on weds with the abc debate. activate but lets not torture ourselves watching the propaganda. we know what they are doing and it sucks but watching it gives it more consideration than it deserves.

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Angela — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:52:00 -0000

dear ms martin;

it takes time to coordinate this kind of effort...that is why I say we need to start planning now!!!!

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Ms.Martin — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:46:00 -0000

CNN is pressing hard for Hillary this weekend.

It's another Hillaryfest.

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Ms.Martin — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:43:00 -0000

Angela:

Good Idea. Also, they know that Obama has all kinds of supporters and that is the beauty of his campaign.

They want to invoke feelings of those rural ethnic voters who they think will vote race. So once again, they are putting the black voter out their to raise emotions in folks who they think will vote against Obama.

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Angela — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:40:00 -0000

I will say it every day... the Obama supporters CANNOT and WILLNOT be dismissed!

And for all those pundits out there...we are of all colors and ethnicities.....believe it!!

I think we should start putting together a coalition to protest in Denver. We have to be prepared to fight against the Clintons big money supporters.

It is clear that the Clinton wants to fight this to the end....and we should be prepared for it.

Lets get ready now...we can't wait until the last minute.

Those of us who can't get to Denver might be able to donate funds to help those of us who can get to Denver.

If we have to become a tent city...so be it.