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I have to say. The majority of people chiming in on this subject are not buying this "guilt by association" argument that Sean Hannity is pushing. That's because Obama has a good reputation. He has run a relatively clean campaign. He's kept his cool no matter the issue. His message is universal and inclusive. That buys you a lot of brownie points for controversies like this one.
When you get outside of the conservative, Fox News-type of crowd, the majority of people don't see this as a campaign killer. That doesn't mean that they like what Wright said. But it does mean that it's not enough for them to change their minds on Obama.
I'll be keeping an eye out for the next 2-3 national Gallup polls to see if this has had any real effect.
Like I said. This is just a bad news cycle. Barring any major new developments, this story doesn't have the legs to make it past Tuesday or Wednesday. Sure, Hannity and others will try their best to play a game of gotcha politics. Look for some "former member of the church" to come on Fox News and swear that he saw Obama on X day at X time. But, short of an offensive comment from Obama himself, it looks like people are ready to move on. We've seen far worse scandals. Politicians have survived far worse.
Yes We Can!
http://reachblack.blogspot.com/2008/03/message-has-not-changed-yes-we-can.html
http://miraclesdaily.blogspot.com/
So in my guesstimate this election has gone from each of the 3 candidates having a 50/50 chance of becoming President as of Super Tuesday I, to, in order of likelihood of becoming President, Obama, McCain then Clinton during Feb, McCain then Obama/Clinton from Super Tuesday II to more likely McCain as of end of this week. I expect McCain to be slightly ahead of the Dem nominee through June then once the recession officially kicks it will be dead even until the Dem convention, and if the convention is not contested, the Dem nominee should come out with at least a 13 pt edge that will be whittled down to 4 points by election day. Can't predict the outcome still...but its a fun ride (provided of course Obama does not suffer a scandal triggered meltdown he should survive this episode).
1. The speech was made not too long ago when Obama had already been elected to the Senate.
2. It was an isolated event in which case Obama is better off for it so his opponents didn't think it had legs.
3. he ran against not one but two collosal dimwit GOP nominees who had 0 chance of beating him.
Obama will take a temporary hit but will survive if, and only if, it truly was an isolated event and he was not there when it occured. WOrst they can say is guilt by association which never really works in US Politics. If on the otherhand, it has been shown consistently that the guy runs off his mouth like a Waffen-SS Komandant, then I think Obama is toast since it calls into question how you can be in a church listening to crap like that on a regular basis.
A potential black president brought down by the words of a crazy black preacher. How sad and ironic!
I do not think that word means what you think it means.
Which means that it still comes down to the super delegates. If Obama has the pledged delegate lead going into the convention then the supers would need a GOOD reason to reverse the will of the people.
Now, maybe the Wright controversy is enough to do that. But, I doubt it. I can't imagine that the Obama camp didn't plan for this.
It would have to be something to make Obama's candidacy absolutely TOXIC ("kill whitey," dead girl/live boy type stuff) to give the supers a free pass to give the nomination to Hillary.
That's why I think it's important to keep an eye on the polls. Come June, how does Obama stand up against McCain? Unless the polls shift dramatically, I see no reason to fear an Obama the nomination for the Fall so long as he remains competitive.
I'd also like to hear from some of the people working the campaign. How are the phone calls going? What are canvassers hearing?
Plus, I wouldn't use Sean Hannity or Fox News/conservative radio as a barometer on this issue. They're going to be on a crusade no matter what. I'd pay more attention to the morning talk shows and evening broadcasts on the major networks. As for cable news, this story is still competing with MI/FL do-overs for air time.
Bottom line: Obama ain't dropping out of the race when he's winning by every objective standard. His base is strong. Which means that he'll have time and support to wrestle with this if it continues to grow.
You know what, Barack could take his family away to a country with universal health care, free education, no hate groups or racism to speak of, wear flip flops and make multi millions from being an author. He wouldn't have to worry about the safety of his family or have a double contingent of secret service protection.
So, it is galling to me to hear low-lives demand he prostrate himself and subject himself to disrespect just for the priviledge of risking his life, and the hard work of saving their undeserving asses.
They should be on bended knee begging him to save them.
As of now Johnny Mac is raising money abroad and talking foriegn policy...so detached from main street...Bush 92 redux here we go!
I was thinking the same thing. These cable news channels starting with Fox News was really taking this overboard and trying to paint Obama as some black militant who is anti-American and unpatriotic. Nonsense and hysteria, it is obvious how Obama feels about these issues. He has made that clear.
Well said.
They should be on bended knee begging him to save them.
you have got to be kidding. do you think he's a saint? good grief. he's a man and a politician. he's not going to save anybody. if there's any saving to be done it's going to come from a (finally, at long last, thank you Jesus) interested and active dumbass america.
if people had long ago shut off the damn tv and turned away from the stupid video games and all of the ridiculously commercial pop culture crap that obsesses people in this country, it would have become clear that we are in deep shit.
the next president is going to have a hell of an uphill battle to recover from what bush has done to us. he or she needs to be a hardass and a kickass fighter and it's not going to be a single handed save.
without a solid seriously democratic congress ~ none of these bush dogs asses who have been standing in the way of progress since 2006 ~ his or her hands will be tied too.
it's a shitty job to take. the country is facing disaster on every front and the populace is splintered.
sometimes i come here and read these posts and i don't even think you're hearing the man. unity? seriously? are you hearing that??
that ridiculous statement above makes me think not.
I do not believe Obama is a savior or some sort of prophet -- that kind of idolatry is dangerous and sets yourself up only for disappointment. But I see him in the piece of me that will never fully understand the blights of America's history on a personal scale, but knows that the time is now to -- as he likes to put it -- write a new chapter in the American story. I think he will make a fine president and an inspirational figure, but to put your all of your hopes in him to generate some kind of modern miracle is misguided. And it shows you aren't really paying attention. The only hope you need is what you have inside of you. Join that hope with your fellow citizens. That is the real power that will change America.
Hater! And hate eats away like a cancer too! Try hope for a change!
Recent news - Bear Stearns getting a payday loan, Tibet, Chrysler shutting down for 2 weeks this summer, and U.S. combat deaths in Iraq soon to hit 4,000. Most of these stories will get at best 5 minutes mention on the news. But what Obama's pastor said 5 years ago gets 30 minutes of coverage. And then Channel B will cover what was said on Channel A.
- KXB
there's a quotation in this reset that fits exactly with what's going down. that's where the deja vu comes in.
older folks will have more immediate resets in mind, regarding deja vu.
"I'm Scared (insert)
anyway, thank you to karibeojigwe for uploading. y'all know the album. y'all know the artist. (well, some of us do.) y'all know the time period. the circumstances couldn't be more different ... and yet some things, unfortunately, never change --
but folks are working on it!
Obama 2008
You're completely right. The Bear Stearns story is the real scandal coming out of NY this week and we aren't hearing early enough about it.
In other news, the Obama HQ in Philly was hopping today! So many volunteers, so many new voters - reasons to be optimistic!
What was racist about it?
Thanks...and yes, he has already laid the groundwork for America to save itself. His grassroots organization is incredible! That organization is not going to stand for any crap. There are community watchdog groups springing up that are pressuring the media, superdelegates and keeping an eye on members of Congress. It will be much easier for those groups to thrive if Barack is President than anyone else.
@bigassbelle
It's difficult for some to escape the religious framework, so when I say "save" you think "messiah" or "saint".
Barack has the unique mixture of intelligence, vision and the ability to mobilize with words. He has exactly what America needs at this time; however, he doesn't need this shit. This man would not put his family at risk if he didn't believe in service; clearly, this is a labour of love and America should be damned grateful!
Barack is an American, and America is lucky to have him. Isn't it a shame that his safety is threatened not by terrorists, but by his fellow Americans.
Thanks for pointing that out.
You know that's kinda funny that people say it was racist.
Jeremiah Wright's comments weren't racist. The controversy involved the issue of "patriotism." "God D*mn" America was not racist. People that got beef with that should say unpatriotic, but not racist. That is, unless we instinctively and/or subconsciously equate "american" with "white."
It demonstrates just how shallow our racial discourse really is. Wright mentioned race. But in today's world, racism is defined by a predetermined list of naughty words. Nevermind the context in which those words are said.
Wright said Hillary was never called a nigger. Whether you agree with it or not, that's not racist. There's no inference of racial inferiority in that statement. If anything, he's acknowledging the fact that whites are seen as privileged and superior to other races.
I think the media inferred racism because that clip made white america very uncomfortable. I listened to the Lionel (sp?) show on Air America Friday, and even he said that people weren't listening to what Wright said. All they saw was an angry black man. Might I add, people saw an angry black man dressed in african patterns with a particularly frightening influence over an agitated black mob . . . all of them shouting . . . unapologetically black.
Thus the equation goes something like this:
acknowledgment of race + discomfort = Racism?
Now, I'm not gonna argue whether or not his comments were offensive. I can see how some would be offended. But be offended for the right reasons. It was a controversy of "patriotism," not racism.
Hold on to hope and remember the math. Go Obama!
I commend you on having the patience to attempt to have these people understand that Wright's statements weren't racist.
Nita,
You and b-serious are right, they think they're seeing violence.
Anon,
Where was the outrage when Ed Rendell said no white man in Philedelphia would vote for Obama? Wasn't that un-American? Please answer these questions.
Where is the outrage at the race games that have been consistently played during this campaign?
Why are the AAs that are voting for Barack just the black vote? Why aren't some of them maybe liberal moderate or possibly conservative or independent voters that wanted something different?
I am willing to bet that some of Mr. Wright's outrage (in at least one of those sermons - possibly the one he refers to Hillary in) was at an
America that would not accept a man he knows to be intelligent, capable, God fearing, family loving and full of character.
And isn't it sad that that very position - his willingness to speak out and stand up for a man he believes in - would leave him being publicly chastized by the man he defended before the very people he defended him against?
america is exposing itself to the healthy laughter of the world. again.
Okay, cool. Hey ya'll. Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. is far, FAR from crazy. Anyone who is unfamiliar with him should really google him and read some of his works. He 'breaks it down' in ways you may have never considered.
As for Obama, I'm glad that all of this has 'come out'. Yes, I'm happy, especially since he's got to be twice as good to get half as far. And he is STILL beating Sen. Clinton!
So, when Obama gets the nomination, what else will the Republicans have to throw? Sen. Clinton will be shown for what she is.
If Obama doesn't get the nomination and the Democratic party implodes, good! It needed to die, if this is what is does the best candidate it has seen in 40+ years
I wonder if it didn't occur to anyone that content from these dvd's would be used against Obama. See, this is what I don't understand with Tavis, and Samantha and Wright's church...don't they understand there is a campaign going on and what is at stake? To me, Obama is standing by these people but they are not returning the favour. Everyone is looking out for their own short-term gain. The church is generating dollars, Samantha was flogging her book, and Tavis was promoting his business interests. Obama has to be as ruthless in protecting himself.
That's exactly what I was saying to a journalist friend of mine. Why didn't this occur to the church that some would use this against Obama? To me it's reckless judgement! Didn't they understand that the haters will use any means necessary to take Obama down? For Christ sake---what were they thinking!
I don't think so. Obama gave the best speech he could, under the circumstances, yesterday in IN. I know haters like Tavis Smiley will say Obama is selling out yet again (which is pretty funny coming Smiley). But the speech put Obama back on message--that we cannot do the things this nation needs if we're divided.
Leftist blogs and news organizations, surprisingly, are pushing back on the Wright story. Just take a look at the recent posts on Alternet, DailyKos, Open Left, and Buzzflash.
MSM and their networks are listening to the complaints they're getting. First ABC News has toned down their negative headlines on Obama today. Even SNL is giving a flacid attempt at being "fair and balanced." I would still encourage everybody to write these news organizations and networks to let them know about your displeasure in the way Obama's been treated these past weeks.
My final evidence that "Wright-gate" isn't hurting Obama is the polls. If you look at the Rasmussen's (sp?) daily polls, Obama hasn't taken a hit in the polls in the past few days.
As Tracey Morgan said last night on SNL, Obama is tough. He's a gansta. He's from Chicago.
Yeah..it's really frustrating. It seems as if the people you'd expect to be in his corner are far too careless with their actions. This man has risked everything to be of service to his country; anyway, I hope he'll prevail and not be too embittered by this campaign.
While I don't know for a fact that this will sink Obama's chances, I will say that I will not be suprised if it does. I am horrified at it and it does make me question why Obama would be a member of a church led by this man. I'm not a Democrat or Republican though I always vote in Nov. I'm not pro-Hilary or pro-McCain but this is quite disturbing to say the least.
" I'm not a Democrat or Republican though I always vote in Nov. I'm not pro-Hilary or pro-McCain but this is quite disturbing to say the least".
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Really???
yes really..what is your point?
They've been called "racist", "bigoted", etc., etc. but whenever I've asked for clarification (because a lot of the characterizations appear to be without basis) I get nothing.
"yes really..what is your point?
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What's Yours?
Do you mean to be sarcastic because of the part of my statement where I said I am neither pro-hilary or pro-Mccain or when I said I think the comments are distressing to say the least? Which is it? or is it something else?
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Yes!
"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people," he said in a 2003 sermon. "God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."
That's how ABC News quotes Wright and there's plenty of policy explicitly referenced along with what was implicit in the idea of KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE let alone the whole litany of decades of US policy Wright was quoted as criticizing.
It really doesn't make sense to say, "God Bless America" for acts like the Iraq war. That's one f-cked up concept of God and country. Innocent human beings lives lost and wrecked as a result of US foreign policy.
So it seems your objections fail. They represent the fraudulent. There's a serious problem with you saying his statements would have been okay "if" he did what he did. It just doesn't make any sense.
Also, please cite where Wright said "b*tch." I missed that part and I find it hard to believe how you missed the litany of US policies Wright decried but caught the word "b*tch." And spare me the fake outrage over Wright using the N-word.
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Say it!
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Ohhhh! Nigger is racially offensive when used from the pulpit?
Just stop! Rev Wright was making a f-ing point! And in my book---a d%mn good one!
Black people know/should know about the struggle we as a people have every single freaking day!
nquest... I watched 100% of it and listened clearly. My point, if you read what I said above, is that you don't need to use incendiary language to get to make your case. Like I said you can criticize a government policy or admininstration but damning a whole country is beyond the pale and yes, per se unpatriotic.I don't care if he single handedly fought the Vietnam War and won.
Secondly,there is no fake outrage anywhere...I wouldn't want a pulpit with a white pastor talking like that anymore than a black pastor doing the same, regardless of the subject matter. Again, the messenger should avoid being the message and let the word of God speak for itself.
Now I know a lot of people are excited about Obama, particularily in the AA community. But I would strongly caution that those who support him should do so in a constructive and dignified manner (as he has so far conducted his campaign) and if he is criticized politically, as any normal politician would expect to be, there should be no overreaction that can easilyt become counterproductive. He is the first non-white candidate of either party to get close to the Oval Office and that has a lot of upside and downside as anyone with sense should know. Personally, I find him appealing and symbolic of change, but I am yet to be convinced that he should be President at this time (I have my reservations about Hilary and McCain also so it is not one sided). One can push back vigourously against smears (e.g. he is a Muslim) but one should not be throwing broad charges of racism willy nilly just because he lost nearly 95% of the counties in the OH primary or that his pastor sounds like a militant fiery preacher. If the goal is to get him elected, then one should avoid discussing his candidacy in overtly racial terms..the vast majority of voters in Nov aren't black and it is not beyond the reach of reason that some may be truned out by candidate advocacy that appears racial. He can't and won't win if his coalition is made up only of black voters and white upper income liberals. He was doing well leading up to Iowa and arguably soon after that...that's the way he wants to run his campaign and his supporters will help him a lot if keep that in mind.
Finally, I am sophisticated enough not to allow an overzealous and uninformed defense of Obama in repsonse to his critics, to lead me to rule him out. I think it is foolish to project one's comments about another to the subject when the subject himself has not said anything or acted in any way to butress that view. I said I seriously question his judgment, but that does not mean i can't or won't vote for the man. However, for a potentially earth shattering event of Obama becoming president, it is not beyond the realm of possiblity that many persons with some prejudice would not be seeking anything (real or imagined) to use as a reason to disqualify him. Hearing rants from overzealous supporters only makes that more likely.
PS: The bitch thing (again if you read clearly) was not directed to Wright. It was actually used by another pastor (can't recall his name but its on Youtube..type white bitch Obama's mother) to describe Obama's Mum.
PS II: Black people don't need to hear the word nigger to know what discrimination means thank you very much.
PS III: Ironically my biggest fear as to why America may come close but yet fail to elect a minority to the Presidency was not necessarily because of some white racism but because of some overzealous minority supporters. If the guy loses they some will scream racism while waving bloody hands in the air.
Nigger when used while describing an adjective used to describe African Americans is not offensive to me as an AA, the use of it as an adjective to describe me is.
I don't know why many are offended by a word that they created and frequently use when it is used in the context to say this is what some think of others.
Say it!
Maybe I missed it. But I don't remember him saying that word.
If I missed it, then ok. But I'm only bringing this up because it seems like some people want to imagine words and sentiment just to paint their own picture of Obama: First he wasn't black enough, now he's Huey P. Newton!
The fact that no one holds John McCain to the same standard; the fact that people forget George Bush spoke at Bob Jones University; that McCain CAMPAIGNED for Jerry Fallwell's blessing; that Rudy Giuliani accepted Pat Robertson's endorsement. . . all of this tells me all I need to know about this situation.
Some people's pain and frustrations are more important than others.
For some reason we assume that Bush, Giuliani, McCain and the like are intelligent enough to think for themselves. But Barack. Oh wait, now. That Barack is a little different. Somehow we're supposed to believe that he's under the spell of Mr. Wright. Like he can't think for himself.
Thus, NOTHING that this man has said or done is good enough for this country. He has bent over backwards trying to make white folk feel comfortable. His smile can't get any wider. His tone can't get any softer. He can't say enough about unity to make this country happy.
People say he created a "holier than thou standard." Guess what. That's the only way this brotha can run for president. There is no other way.
I see Hillary talk about the sisterhood all the time. She's gets to rail against the "all boys club." She gets on tv and talks about how women can run things differently.
I don't have a problem with any of that.
But I do have a problem with the fact that Obama can't do the same. Obama can't talk about "black power." He can't vent about the "white man," or encourage white america to vote for him because a black man will run things differently.
Apparently, he can't even have a relationship with a black man who does any of these things.
Funny how the only person to have his patriotism questioned just so happens to be the black guy named Barack Hussein Obama.
So the message is clear. When Katrina hit, Jesse Jackson lamented that this country has a high tolerance for black pain. Ain't that the truth. My pain does not matter. My struggle and frustrations must be silenced so as not to make white america uncomfortable.
I once had a debate with a classmate from law school a couple of years ago over affirmative action. We were about 30 minutes into it when I realized that his argument boiled down to one issue: he didn't feel comfortable with the idea of affirmative action.
I was floored . . . absolutely floored because it finally hit me. He was so privileged in his thinking that he honestly believed his "comfort" was powerful enough to dictate policy and control other people's lives. The sad part is he was and is absolutely correct. But black folk don't have that type of sway.
I, and a lot of other black folk, have NEVER thought that we could control someone else's life based on how comfortable or uncomfortable something made us feel. Sometimes we get lucky and white guilt throws us a bone. But even that usually comes after some tragedy in the black community.
We know the drill. We're uncomfortable almost every day. It's just that we've learned to live with it and move on.
You know what, black folk have been uncomfortable for over 400 years. When are we gonna ask white folk to be a little uncomforable for a change? I don't mean that in a racist way. I'm just asking.
Politicians go to the black community all the time and ask for our trust, tolerance and understanding. We always give it to them. We vote for a white candidate every four years - regardless of his shortcomings; in spite of our doubts and questions (that never get answered); despite our discomfort, we trust that everything's gonna be alright.
Well, this black man is asking white america to return the favor for once. I know it's different. I know we've never seen this before. I know white america has it's questions. But Barack has done all he can to ask for white america's trust and understanding. All he wants is the same chance black folk have been giving white politicians since we got the right to vote.
"Now I know a lot of people are excited about Obama, particularily in the AA community. But I would strongly caution that those who support him should do so in a constructive and dignified manner..."
What is that about? Which one of your kids post here for you to start dispensing paternalistic admonishments about how to behave?
Yes, you're compounding your error and your own prostitution of your stated principle:
"If he meant to criticize a particular government policy or an adminstration, then that is not unpatriotic..."
That was the end of your argument/objection right there. You didn't get it right then and you can't make it right now.
And given your error, you are the last person to lecture anyone about OVERREACTION.
Losing all sense of reality and the credibility you never had to boot.
Seriously, what the hell is all that about? Why is all that garbage anywhere close to some point or response you called yourself making to me?
What does even a word of that have to do with anything that's been discussed here in this thread? Let alone anything I said?
Why are you losing it, going off making wild and idiotic statements that you can't substantiate.
Rev. Wright didn't say "b*tch" but you sure tried to see if you could throw it out there to see if it would stick... just like the "unpatriotic" charged premised on the notion that "if he... criticized a particular government policy... then that is not unpatriotic..."
Well, by your own standard, Rev. Wright is found NOT GUILTY.
My advice to you is this...the best you can do for Obama (if I presume you are supporting him and want him to win in Nov)..right now, right this minute and for the rest of your life is to vote for him in whichever state or district that you reside in and keep your mouth sealed shut!! You are clearly a poor advocate and God forbid if you worked on his campaign team, you'd be leading him towards a disasterous general election rout like Mondale '84 or McGovern '72. Is that what you want? I did not think so...let those who have ears hear.
Yes, yes, yes
Let me just add:
Anon,
We are not defending Obama on this issue. Some are defending Rev. Wright's right to make these statements and not have them deemed hateful or racist.
We are defending the truth and his right to tell and our right to have it heard.
I understand that this is not good for Obama politically, but quite frankly I care more about the truth. I won't stand by silent - or get you a pillow - while you tell black america to shut the fuck up.
The truth is that the outrage at Rev. Dr. Wright is the tamping down of the truth about race in America.
I agree with some of your statements, but one in particular simply makes the point of what America really is:
PS III: Ironically my biggest fear as to why America may come close but yet fail to elect a minority to the Presidency was not necessarily because of some white racism but because of some overzealous minority supporters. If the guy loses they some will scream racism while waving bloody hands in the air.
If White America would vote for Obama if not for his zealous black supporters, then they would in essence be voting against his black supporters.
Why?
If that aint racist I don't know what is.
Anon 02:14:00, where do you think we got words like damn and hell? From the Bible. The King James version says "Jesus rode on his ass." Oh, my--the Bible used a bad word. My hears are burning.
If you re-watch the video, Rev. Wright doesn't say "goddamn America for shedding innocent blood," he says, "God damn America for shedding innocent blood." There's a difference. In the Bible God damns a lot of people for shedding innocent blood.
Like nquest said, you haven't offered proof that what Rev. Wright said wasn't true. It seems like you have issues with the linguistics of his message. If that's your problem, then that's a different matter, and you should state such.
Another point I would like to make--why we are required to worship some symbol--America or the flag or whatever? So what if Rev. Wright is unpatriotic. Is that a requirement to be a U.S. citizen? I don't think so, and you use words like unpatriotic (Republican buzzwords, I might add) like it's some sort of scarlet letter. Well I say God damn America, too. And so what if I'm not patriotic. Saying that didn't strike me dead. Patriotism hasn't added a few thousand dollars in my wallet. I'm not going to go blow up buildings because I'm not "patriotic". My point is this unhealthy attachment to patriotic symbolism is just b*llsh*t. It's an illusion to keep us in line. It means absolutely nothing.
It's better for the Senator to handle this stuff now, it clears the deck for him to handle the more critical issues later.
So, dear Anon, because you have failed... you are in no position, have no standing or reason to give me any advice, not that you had any standing or reason in the first place. But I guess when you're such an utter failure you have to have something else to yap about.
Also, you can't question my intelligence when you've shown your own deficiencies in that department.
ANON: "I had hoped it wouldn't come to this..."
Come to what? What were your hopes, expectations, agenda and SCRIPT before? Simply, when you call yourself talking to me, having a discussion/debate with me then you best keep your comments to things relevant to what we have discussed.
When you drift into some mode talking about what you perceive about anyone but me then you start, by your own choice, to take the discussion downhill.
No one here is your child. No one here has solicited your advice and no one is fooled by your vain professions.
"I had hoped it wouldn't come to this..."
I'll be nice and won't send you into a tail-SPIN the idiotics in your other statements deserve. I'll just ask you what point you think you make with such a pretentious statement?
First, you have to reconcile YOUR ERROR. You really have no conversation for me until you do but to try to wax all moral authority/moral highground on me with more of the same paternalistic, preconceived, poorly-prefab admonishments, advice and other assorted nonsense where you position yourself as someone I should listen to... Well, all you're doing is increase the entertainment value for me.
I mean, seriously...
You just tried to dust off the lamest rhetorical tactic in the book (*sniff*"you're a poor representative"*cry*). Like you (1) having standing to make emotional appeals to me and (2) like I'm going to cry or feel bad based some bs assumption and transparent rhetoric of yours.
Let me put it to you this way: you had your chance and blew it.
I respect people who tell and can deal with the truth. You had your opportunity to tell me what issue you honestly had with Rev. Wright's statements and YOU BLEW IT!
Maybe that patriotism thing means something to you but it was your standard that Wright met and it was your standard that you did not uphold.
That's END OF CONVERSATION right there. But, feeling sorry for yourself and your sparkling ineptitude... you want to make this about me.
You just better be sure you're not making another grave/fatal error.
Is America Too Racist for a Black President?
March 13, 2007
SPIEGEL: Do you think he will be President in two years?
Wright: No. Unless Barak pulls off nationally what he was able to pull off locally, and wins the hearts and minds of people who have been perennially anti-black. Racism is so deeply engrained in this country that he could be flawless in terms of his policies. But he's still a black man in this country, which has a sorry history in terms of how it sees African-American males. That’s my 65-year-old, jaded perception of where this country is. I was pleasantly surprised in the Senate election. I would like to be as pleasantly surprised in the presidential election.
Read the whole interview. Only the last 2 questions out of 11 fit the title.
Bravo! Dayum!!! You were brutal! Kick his ass! Kick his ass!
Bam!