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Jack and Jill Politics: Bill Clinton Says He’s ‘Not A Racist’…..hmmmmm

  • Maurice Stewart · 1 year ago
    I feel so much at home since discovering JJP as well! I note that Obama gets hell here when he screws up or take African-Americans for granted but he is also supported here when the racists with their code words- presumtious, arrogant, acting presidential (uppity), inexperienced etc. is directed towards him.
    This is what responsible journalism should be about! Kudos to JJP!
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    Maurice: CO-SIGNING BIG TIME!!! :>) :>)
  • Ro · 1 year ago
    Just want to say damn, what was I doing before I started regularly reading Jack and Jill Politics? I got it bad for JJP, yall. And I thought I had it bad for HuffPo. Rikyrah, I know you were shaking all over Disney trying to stay away. LOL.
  • CraigHickman · 1 year ago
  • CraigHickman · 1 year ago
    I actually never read the clintonattacksobama page until today. I remember it being referenced, and I never even checked it out. I coudn've added a handful of incidents to the list myself.

    "Next thing you know he's going to ask for you to vote for him because he doesn't steal cars."

    That one still makes me mad. They all do, but that one cut right through it for me. Made me realize that Bill was truly out of his mind.

    Bill Clinton is a narcissistic lying egomaniac. I saw his shenanigans coming a mile away.

    He's a bitter, he's angry, he's unbearable.
  • PTCruiser · 1 year ago
    Yes, indeed!
  • Admiral_Komack · 1 year ago
    And as far as I'm concerned, he and Hillary's legacy is FUCKED!
  • TRW · 1 year ago
    Wait, what? When did he say that? Can you please provide the link because I didn't hear about that one.

    You know, I'll admit that I was a big fan of WJC before this primary season, and before some of my more conservative friends tried to make me "see the light" so to speak. I don't know if WJC is a racist. What I do know is that he made several comments that made me uncomfortable and his failure to realize that fact, bother me. I'm still grasping for the connection between Jesse Jackson's and Obama's win in South Carolina other than on matters of race... But what really pushed me over the edge is in the last couple of weeks of HRC's campaign, he shouted to the rooftops that he wasn't a racist because Sen. Rangle told him he wasn't and his office was in Harlem. That's bullshit.

    I've been there. I have said some racially insensitive things around a biracial friend and she called me out on it. I heard other Black people rationalize it by saying, oh, that's not offensive, we always say that. This type of rationalization is equally as offensive as what you originally said, so why not just acknowledge that you may have crossed the line and if you did so you are truly sorry.

    The fact that WJC couldn't do this leads me to believe that he was playing racial politics. And maybe it is our fault too...some Black people sure thought it was funny that WJC was deemed the first Black president until this election season. Now we have some White people coming at us left and right about what it means to be Black and how Obama is "talking" and "acting" White. I can barely watch this coverage. Its disgusting.
  • CraigHickman · 1 year ago
    Chuck Todd is on Morning Joe claiming that Barack doesn't know how to express empathy like the Clintons because he doesn't know when to hug people. And Joe and Mika are agreeing with him?

    Barack is about the most touchy-feely politician I've ever seen. He's so open with his physicality, he has no trouble hugging people.

    These people have lost their damn minds.

    Screw 'em.
  • Sepia · 1 year ago
    I saw that and quickly changed the channel.

    These media shills are reaching.
  • CraigHickman · 1 year ago
    It's become farcical really.
  • djchefron · 1 year ago
    I just cannot take the so called political shows anymore. Their bias shows and they just cant stand the thought of Obama becoming President.So even though McCain is a fool his ideas are dangerous for the nation they will do everything in their power to prop up a relic to the detriment of the 95% of us who will not benefit one iota if McCain is elected.
  • Micheline · 1 year ago
    Tell me about it .
  • MsKitty · 1 year ago
    It's so obvious that these "news" shows are in the tank for McCain that I don't even bother to watch them. No doubt because Obama already put the media conglomerates on point that he will be cracking down on the deregulation and mergers that have been going down since the Reagan days. So a McCain victory is a self-preservation move for Fox, Time Warner, etc., the rest of us be damned.
  • Admiral_Komack · 1 year ago
    He doesn't know when to hug people.
    He's too fit.
    He gives purty speeches.
    He's uppity.
    What's next, he doesn't use French's mustard; he uses Grey Poupon?
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    Admiral: But he LOVES MUSTARD GREENS!! :>) :>) Oops! Another RACE bait/card! :>)
    Whew!! Shakin' her head Deep Breaths! :>)
  • msmartin · 1 year ago
    The text doesn't do the statements any justice. You should have seen how angry he was when he said (more than once) that this is trouble for Obama to talk about this now and when the reporter asked him about Clyburn. He supports Obama about as much as I support McCain which is not at all.
  • CraigHickman · 1 year ago
    That about sums it up.

    I wish Bill would disappear from view and stay gone for a good long while.
  • bluesjones · 1 year ago
    Send this post to Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Rick Davis!!
  • gaiilonfong · 1 year ago
    GREAT POST.

    Bill was always a megalomaniac, now you can add deranged. OMG....as for the Joe "dead intern" Skankboro and that despicable crew of his...headed by Pat "Southern Strategy" Nixon apologist Buchannan...they can.........well you know!
  • 1happylawyer · 1 year ago
    Great post.

    Take a bow. gotta run I am sure my boss is traking my web usage.
  • 1happylawyer · 1 year ago
    Great post Take a bow.
  • goldenstar · 1 year ago
    Sad and pathetic. Bill Clinton is stuck living in a pre-BO candidacy space while the world is attuned to the reality that a Black man is the presumptive Dem nominee for the POTUS. And, Clinton is reverting to what he knows best.

    Just doesn't serve a 21st century world.
  • CraigHickman · 1 year ago
    Off-topic. This from an email:

    ::

    Candidates' responses to CDC study reveal vastly different levels of commitment

    Presidential candidates Sen. Barack Obama and Sen. John McCain both responded to this weekend's news that the U.S. AIDS epidemic is 40 percent larger than previously believed with statements vowing to take action against the epidemic. The Black AIDS Institute is heartened to know that both candidates are at least paying attention to this spiraling epidemic-a far cry from previous elections.

    However, these statements again make clear that Sen. McCain has a long way to go to earn the votes of those who care about HIV/AIDS in America. While Sen. Obama repeated his pledge to draft and implement America's first national HIV/AIDS strategy, Sen. McCain again offered no specific commitments or proposals for how he will deal with the epidemic. He merely vows to "work closely" with all stakeholders.

    Sadly, this seeming disinterest in the epidemic is not new for Sen. McCain. His record on AIDS vacillates between total disengagement and reactionary cant.

    In fall 2007, the Black AIDS Institute joined a handful of AIDS watchdogs in reviewing all candidates' records and statements on AIDS. Sen. McCain's campaign has not to date offered a detailed AIDS platform. During his decades in the Senate, he has not meaningfully participated in AIDS policy formation other than to support poorly thought out bills that stigmatize people living with HIV.

    Voters considering supporting Sen. McCain must demand that he take this epidemic more seriously and articulate meaningful proposals and specific commitments for dealing with it.

    Sen. Obama, on the other hand, has vowed in his AIDS platform and in subsequent statements like yesterday's to draft a national strategy for dealing with the domestic epidemic. America wisely requires countries seeking foreign aid for their AIDS programs to first have a national plan of action, yet we have never had one of our own.

    Sen. Obama's pledge is a welcome commitment. And should he become president we must all hold him accountable for following through on that commitment.

    TEXT OF OBAMA AND MCCAIN STATEMENTS

    Sen. Obama's statement:

    "We have now learned that 56,300 new HIV infections occurred in the United States in 2006, not 40,000 that had been previously cited. These new figures should bring new focus to our efforts to address AIDS and HIV here at home.

    "As president, I am committed to developing a National AIDS Strategy to decrease new HIV infections and improve health outcomes for Americans living with HIV/AIDS. Across the nation, we also need to prevent the spread of HIV and get people into treatment by expanding access to testing and comprehensive education programs. This report also demonstrates the need for more timely data about HIV transmission so that we can effectively evaluate prevention efforts.

    "Combating HIV/AIDS also demands closing the gaps in opportunity that exist in our society so that we can strengthen our public health. We must also overcome the stigma that surrounds HIV/AIDS - a stigma that is too often tied to homophobia. We need to encourage folks to get tested and accelerate HIV/AIDS research toward an effective cure because we have a moral obligation to join together to meet this challenge, and to do so with the urgency this epidemic demands."

    Sen. McCain's statement:

    "The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) yesterday announced that in 2006 there were 56,300 new HIV infections in United States -- significantly higher than the previous estimate of 40,000 cases. More than a million Americans live with this devastating disease. As President, I will work closely with non-profit, government, and private sector stakeholders to continue the fight against HIV/AIDS. By focusing efforts on reducing drug costs through greater market competition, promoting prevention efforts, encouraging testing, targeting communities with high infection rates, strengthening research and reducing disparities through effective public outreach, we as a nation can make great progress in fighting HIV/AIDS."




    The Black AIDS Institute is a 501(c)3 non- profit organization with a mission to end the AIDS pandemic in Black communities. The Institute interprets public and private sector HIV policies, conducts trainings, offers technical assistance, disseminates information and provides advocacy.
    In the Black community, HIV/AIDS is the third leading cause of death amongst children, women and men aged 25-35; and the leading cause of death amongst women aged 24-34. As HIV/AIDS continues to devastate Black populations across our country, Heroes in the Struggle, our portrait exhibit and annual gala, gives us the opportunity to showcase examples of heroism from within our communities.

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  • tenacitus · 1 year ago
    Will you guys post someting about Bayh for a possible veep?
  • djchefron · 1 year ago
    Dont do it. There is that good enough.My choice for VP is either Gen. Wesely Clark or Gen Anthony Zinni
  • CraigHickman · 1 year ago
    I'm hoping that there will only be civilians on the Democratic ticket.

    I think Barack is going to choose Bayh or Sebelius at this point. Both of them are do-no-harm and have cache in some swing states.

    I hope he picks someone who's been on his side all along, which takes Bayh out of the equation. But I remember when that Indiana former DNC chair under Clinton endorsed Barack he suggested that Bayh be his VP back then, so we'll see...
  • djchefron · 1 year ago
    I understand your reasons for demilitarizing American Politics but I think in the coming months with the medias help the tone is going to change on who is going to protect you and the consensus will say Obama is a wimp.Now you and I know that this is some bovine excrement but a lot of voters take this into account.With Clark or Zinni they can call McCain on his imperial fantasies and have the medals to back it up.
  • PTCruiser · 1 year ago
    Obama was being portrayed as a wimp last year. Putting a general on the ticket won't put at end to those types of characterizations. In fact, such a move only serves to reenforce these smears. Why do Democrats always want to throw below the belt fastballs to below the belt fastball hitters?
  • PTCruiser · 1 year ago
    I agree, Craig. I don't have a problem with Webb because he has done more than serve in the military but I find the rationale for Clark extremely wanting. It would be great if Obama picked a woman for his running mate but not Hillary Clinton. This country really does not need the Clintonians anywhere near the White House again save for state dinners and Christmas parties.
  • Lily · 1 year ago
    Even then, I really don't want them invited.
  • CraigHickman · 1 year ago
    I want him to pick a woman, too. McCaskill is my first choice, but I know that's a pipe dream. Napolitano is my second choice. But she's unmarried and butch, so she might be a magnet for attacks. Which leaves Sebelius.

    But will he want to deal with the "how dare he snub Hillary!!!" backlash?

    Who knows.

    I'm afraid he's going to choose a white man. Out of left field.
  • D. · 1 year ago
    Why either one of those two?

    I think Obama's military choosing of a VP died with Sen. Webb.
  • djchefron · 1 year ago
    First unlike your hero McCain who claims he knows how to win wars Clark actually won one.Plus being the Supreme Commander of NATO he knows how to run a large organization whose members have different agendas unlike McCain who's experience is crashing 5 planes, chasing women and getting drunk and through misfortune allowed himself to get shot down and be held prisoner.Gen Zinni speaks Arabic ran Central Command and is respected in the Middle East and till we solve that problem with methods other than trying to bomb them and colonize the people we will never have peace.
  • D. · 1 year ago
    All Clark did was bomb Bosnia into submission...and, if the truth is to be told, he didn't do that great of a job.

    GEN Zinni I do respect.
  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    I'm SOO not a Bayh fan. Maybe one of the other bloggers will take it, but I can't stand Bayh.
  • Admiral_Komack · 1 year ago
    I'm hoping for either Sebelius or McCaskill for Obama's VP.
  • Lily · 1 year ago
    Yeah! Even if it pisses off the puma vote. Because it doesn't matter, they will not vote for Obama anyway. I would love Sebelius over McCaskill because McCaskill could still be a regular on the newsshows and slice and dice with a smile!
  • PTCruiser · 1 year ago
    Why and what for?
  • CraigHickman · 1 year ago
    LOL. Bayh is working hard to get the nod, that's for sure. He practically kissed Barack today after introducing him.
  • Town · 1 year ago
    As I said yesterday, I didn't like the tone of the ABC interview. It felt "playground" to me and unfair to both Clinton and Obama. It was like Billy, Barry and Katie were on the playground, and the whole school knows that Billy hates Barry. But here comes Katie instigating a situation. Anything that Billy says isn't going to be looked at in a good light. When Billy doesn't give an inflammtory enough statement about Barry, Katie goes running to Barry to say "Billy said thus and so about you." When Barry doesn't give Katie anything to work with, Jakey chimes in to say "Barry probably feels this way, even though he didn't say it."

    So now the whole school is talking about how Billy hates Barry and that situation, while Johnny is sneaking into everyone's lunchbags stealing their sandwiches.

    Bill Clinton is not going to ever get it as to how Billary Inc. was being racist in this campaign because both Bill and Hillary are incapable of admitting they are wrong. If Bill had just admitted he got a little something something from Monica underneath the Oval Office desk, he wouldn't have been impeached. Instead he wagged his finger at America and angrily informed us that he hadn't. had. sex. with that woman...Miss Lewinsky. It wasn't until he couldn't lie anymore that he told the truth but he took us through all those changes to get there.

    I'd actually like to know exactly what went down between Clinton and Clyburn because he seems angrier at Clyburn than he is at Obama.
  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    Clyburn was supposedly on The Plantation; Obama never was. Therefore, his 'escape' hurt more.
  • Town · 1 year ago
    Ok, b/c Bill looked like he wanted to raise his fist when Kate Snow mentioned Clyburn.
  • Admiral_Komack · 1 year ago
    Maybe Clyburn told Bill to STFU.
  • Town · 1 year ago
    I recall that Clyburn said that Bill cussed him out for 50 minutes on the phone and called him a name and maybe one day he'd tell about that phone call.

    What disturbs me is how the black and brown delegates and what nots who defected were treated much more nastily than the white delegates who defected. I guess Billary Inc. really did think they were the overseers. LOL
  • Miranda · 1 year ago
    I can hear Slick Willy now...."now haven't we been good to ya? why ya treatin us like this? Dont you have it good here? Why you breakin me and the missus heart like this?"....and when the guilt doesn't work, then its time for the flogging.
  • Lily · 1 year ago
    Oh Miranda, I can hear his accent while I read.

    LOL
  • Nina · 1 year ago
    I for one am sick and tired of Bill Clinton’s fascination with all things HIM. Once again his answer to any question is “me, me, me”. Neither Obama nor Clyburn cast him as a racist. Clyburn basically told him to check himself. You are absolutely correct. The Black and Brown former supporters of the Clintons were subjected to name calling and disrespectful slurs by the Clintons and their surrogates and we are supposed to believe they don’t have a racist bone in their body. How about their propensity to use their white privilege? Bill Clinton’s own undisciplined comments cast doubts about his real feelings about African Americans in general and Obama specifically. It is insulting for him to assume that the African American people only took umbrage to his comments because the Obama campaign or Clyburn told us to. I heard what he said; I analyzed his comments and found them to be dismissive of Obama. At 57 years old, I don’t need anyone to tell me what to think. Because of his Sister Souljah comments I didn’t vote for him during his first run for the Presidency. Race baiting, mud slinging politics as usual is really getting on my last nerve.
  • Micheline · 1 year ago
    Does anybody think that the Clintons are colluding with the McCain campaign?
  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    Yep. Without a doubt.
  • MsKitty · 1 year ago
    You know it.
  • Admiral_Komack · 1 year ago
    Yep.
  • NMP · 1 year ago
    Absolutely! Who do you think the sources have been for the misquotes, notably the misquote reported by Dana Milbank, and tape recordings at fund-raisers where reporters are not allowed?
  • Micheline · 1 year ago
    I also think there are House member who are trying to sabotage Obama. How else do explain FISA? That bill was on stall for three years, and then suddenly it was up for a vote. Sometimes I have a bad feeling about this election. There are so many people who are conspiring to sabotage this election.
  • Miranda · 1 year ago
    Yep...make no mistake...it is certainly NOT just GOP operatives...there are a lot of old guard Democrats who are quite vested in the status quo.
  • CraigHickman · 1 year ago
    I'm agreement with this entire threadline.

    That's why I'm bracing for the convention in three weeks.

    The roll call vote with Clinton's name in nomination makes me nervous.
  • APeach · 1 year ago
    Yeah Bill, and a hit dog will holler. Next.

    Even with the full knowledge that Billary sees the Democratic Party as a means to their ends, I have just absolutely had it with these two. The cult-like behavior from their Stans--which they've stoked--is beyond belief, and more than a little disturbing.
  • Big Man · 1 year ago
    Great post. Here's what I told somebody the other day. If you commit racist acts, how can you argue that you're not a racists? What is a racist, but somebody who practices racism and racist acts?
  • Niccolo · 1 year ago
    LOL... Bill looked like he wanted to explode on Obama. What happened to the "politics is a contact sport and don't on the uniform" platitudes?.. Bill you two DID pick up the cards. And that worthless CBC, Bob Johnson, Lowery, Young, Jackson, Angelou et al, stood watching, not saying a damned thing.

    Bill put his oar the only local race in 2000... and it was against Obama, which he lost badly to Rush. (I have seen any write up about why Bill did it). Obama managed to get Bill back where he can never forgive or forget. Bill's grand apology for Hillary got laid to waste. That will probably fester with him forever.

    With all due respect to Jesse, this is the real power game of the alpha male. O'bama shows he knows how the play the game, but more importantly he is not afraid to play the game! This man has definitely read "The Prince".
  • Miranda · 1 year ago
    Rev. Lowery did say something - plenty of times. He was the only one that was out campaigning for Obama from day one.

    Now Rep. John Lewis?? Oh.....the day he got the tongue-lashing from every caller as he sat on V103 (ATL) trying to state why he was supporting Hillary was something to behold. It was even sadder when he finally said he was supporting Obama instead.....it was too little too late. He won his primary last week...but it wasnt pretty.
  • Niccolo · 1 year ago
    Mea Culpa to Lowery ... Thanks for the info.

    That "wait his turn crowd" turned my stomach.
  • MP · 1 year ago
    But that is precisely the point, Bill's comments are not directed toward the black community, but to white Americans. They are whom he is trying to convince he is not racist. This is about the Clinton brand, shoring up white racial resentment to use as a bargaining chip at a critical time for Obama (think v.p. nod to Clinton/ Clinton surrogate, and settling debt), and possibly a run in 2012. Like McCain's speech in front of the NAACP, this is not a dialogue with black people, whites are the intended audience.
  • Admiral_Komack · 1 year ago
    "Obama was being portrayed as a wimp last year. Putting a general on the ticket won't put at end to those types of characterizations."

    You are correct, sir
    Especially when the media gets their grubby paws on it.
    "Gee, I guess Obama doesn't have confidence in the military; why else is Gen. Zinni his VP?
  • BlackAmericanPrincess · 1 year ago
    You truly nailed it with this post rikyrah!!
  • Francislholland · 1 year ago
    I did NOT have sex with that woman (who was under my desk)!
  • CraigHickman · 1 year ago
    There you go right there.
  • Francislholland · 1 year ago
    You're so right with this post. It's like saying, "I'm not an alcoholic" when everyone sees you laying down drunking in the street, peeing on yourself. Call it what you will, but the facts speak for themselves, and many people, myself included, are going to pay much more attention to what Bill Clinton has DONE over the last year than to what he says are his motives for doing so.

    Maybe Robert Byrd wasn't a "racist" color-aroused individual back when he was a Klan leader. Maybe he was just a Klan leader because it was politically expedient at the time, as a way to jump start his political career. I'm not knocking Robert Byrd now, but I'm saying that if he told America, when he was a Klan leader, that he was not a "racist", that wouldn't have meant very much to many of us.

    Why should I spend my time trying to psyche out what someone "is" when it is so much easier and more objective to document, as we have what someone has DONE, as in the case of the Clinton/Obama wiki and the color-aroused campaigning that ended in Clinton losing virtually every Black vote in the country.
  • Michelle · 1 year ago
    I’m going to let White folks in on a Black truth -Black folk could care less if YOU believe that you ‘ aren’t a racist’.

    Thank you so much for saying exactly this immediately after that nasty ugly I-have-no-words-for-it quote.

    And for this entire post. Thank you.
  • BlackButterfly · 1 year ago
    EXCELLENT post Rikyrah!

    It is so amazing how everywhere we turn when looking at MSM that there is ALWAYS this perpetual illusion that is floated globally that everyone in the Black community is ignorant with no independent thought process and begging to be accepted by white folk at whatever cost!

    True enough there are those in the Black community who assimilate to what white American society has labeled to be "black people behavior" in order to succeed...but they are the exception NOT the rule and at their core even they know when they need to give white folk a reality check of what won't be tolerated.

    Bill needs to get over his delusions of grandeur and accept the fact that the majority of the black community will NEVER FORGET him resorting to race baiting in order to win because it showed his true character and forever added him to the evergrowing list of other white folk who have done the same!
  • Manju · 1 year ago
    McCain linking Clinton to the race-baiting charge was a brilliant tactical move, allowing him to exploit diviisons within the democratic party while putting Obama between a rock and a hard place.

    Whats Obama to do? If he defends Clinton's accusers his hopes of uniting his party, and subsequently winning the election, are dashed. If he attacks them he ends up "admitting" that Clinton's accusers, and by extension himself since he benefitted, are Sharptonesque. Both are losing cards.

    The Clinton's are powerful. There's a huge swath of the democratic party that's simply not willing to admit that they played a southern strategy. They're ideologically bound to the notion that that is resricted to the Republicans, to Nixon and Reagan. Even those who have written extensively on southern strategies, like Paul Krugman, cannot bring themselves to make this admission, despite all the evidence, lest they end up admitting that much of what the VRWC said about the Clintons was right all along. Such an admission would undermine almost 2 decades of work. Its unthinkable.

    The Clinton's know this and its in their best interest to keep the party divided. Obama must lose the general in order for them to reclaim the party and power. Thus, Clinton bought up racism all by himself, knowing it would hurt Obama. Howard Wolfson, Clinton old campaign manager, is on Foxnews now making Obama out to be a racial McCarthyist. Expect Gerry Ferraro to make a reappearance in the coming months.

    This is precisely why party insiders wanted Clinton to quit the race when it became obvious she couldn't win. The Clintons scorched earth policy gives McCain cover to launch all sorts of attacks on Obama, and not be blamed for it--or even have dems defend him when he does it--b/c they originated from the Clintons. Obama as race baiter, as not fit to be commander in chief, as sexist, as out of touch with hard working white Americans, and finally as election steeler who lost the popular vote.

    All these charges are false and incendiary. But still very dangerous territory for Obama.
  • Town · 1 year ago
    It is my understanding the GOP is getting ready to release the first in a series of Hillary Clinton ads against Obama. The first ad features her "Shame on You!" lecture.

    But I'll disagree with you on the party insiders wanted her to quit the race because if they truly did (or had a backbone) they would have shut her ass down with the quickness a long time ago. Everyone was licking their finger and putting it up in the air to see which way the wind blew to save themselves. We all know that if Obama had persisted past the Potomac Primaries (or Beltway Beatdown as I've seen on other boards, lol) Pelosi, Dean, etc would have strongarmed Obama into getting out.
  • Dick Nixon · 1 year ago
    I am not a crook!
  • PTCruiser · 1 year ago
    "It is my understanding the GOP is getting ready to release the first in a series of Hillary Clinton ads against Obama. The first ad features her "Shame on You!" lecture."

    If this is true, the reaction to these ads on the part of the Clintonians and mainstream Democrats will be interesting to watch since by their own volition or silence they aided and abetted these kinds of attacks on a fellow Democrat. Maybe, the ads will persuade Barack that he really is in a knife fight and he needs to bring an equalizer.
  • CraigHickman · 1 year ago
    I think the strategy will backfire on McCain, no matter what the Democrats say or do about it.
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    Hey rikyrah,

    Ha! you quoted my comment....totally cool. Now I'm embarrassed.
  • MODI · 1 year ago
    Damn, i loved this post.
  • Peggy McGilligan · 1 year ago
    Again (Bill), methinks thou doest protest too much: http://theseedsof9-11.com
  • LynnDee · 1 year ago
    I don't know if Bill Clinton, in whatever's left of his heart, is racist or not. I'm not sure that it matters given his willingness to race bait; the effect's the same. He might as well be racist if he's willing to fan the fire of racism for political advantage.

    And then there's his capacity for denial. He's been successful at getting away saying one thing in one venue and not having at reach national attention until it was too late (if at all) for a long time. As have other politicians. What's changed, of course, is that with the internet and the 24/7 cable news cycle, politicians can't get away with that anymore. No doubt Clinton was chagrined to discover that but, rather than acknowledge he'd been caught, he lashed out at the media and the Obama campaign. And what's more, he still blames them!

    So anyway, I don't know who his audience is with this. Maybe it's whites, maybe it's whites and blacks, maybe it's anyone who'll listen. But I do know it's not just blacks who aren't taken in by him. I might one day still be inclined to listen to him speak on some subject of interest to me -- but my opinion of him as a person is shot for good.
  • gregoryTX · 1 year ago
    I think maybe everyone is jumping on him a little too much - I agree what he said sounded off....but I have to look at what he did for the community, and for this country, during his service in public life.

    Seems to me a lot of playground smack being thrown at him.....and whatever your feelings on this issue - it is dividing the party....so how to bring the coalition back in? You have to be able to reach out to someone who might not know how much their words had unintended consequences....where is the understanding and forgiveness we have spent so many years perfecting in the harshest circumstances?
  • ftroit · 1 year ago
    I think it's unfair to describe Bill as a racist. Other than the events in the political primary sport, there's nothing else in Bill's life or past (at least that we all know) that indicates that he's racist. Let's face it, Bill was trying to diminish Obama's South Carolina victory when he compared his victory to Jesse's. There's nothing wrong about demeaning an opponent's victory. Bill was on this thing for his wife. While that particular comment had racial connotations and implications, it (coupled with a few other misjudged remarks by Bill) do not necessary amount to him being racist. He used race to try to score political points no doubt. But that doesn't mean his racist. Darn, even Mr. Obama uses the race card. We all know what he means when he says : "they'll make you think i don't look like the other presidents on the dollar bill". Now, that statement right there, is as good a race card as you can get, politically and we all know it. Is his and Mr. Clinton's statements true? possibly. But neither of them is racist. All they're both guilty of is using the race card!