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Re: Booman Tribune Lays Out Why Clinton On Wright Is So Wrong

justice58 — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:56:00 -0000

anon 7:23,

Ain't gonna happen! Is your understanding warped? Barack will not disown Rev Wright! You can bring it up til the cows come home but Barack ain't backing down for you or any of your Rethug buddies!

Capeesh!

Move or get out the f-ing way!

Re: Booman Tribune Lays Out Why Clinton On Wright Is So Wrong

Anonymous — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:23:00 -0000

Obama's crazy old Uncle Rev. Wright will do him in against McCain. This stuff may be said every day in the Black Church but for the rest of America (84%) it is very offensive. God Bless America works better with a country at war. Many families have kin fighting overseas and will take Rev. Wright's comments as hateful and disrespectful. I know I do. Obama should put Rev. Wright behind him now.

Re: Booman Tribune Lays Out Why Clinton On Wright Is So Wrong

Angela — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:34:00 -0000

I just had a good laugh. I can't remember the blog but someone titled their cartoon or video of Hillary as "Full Metal Pant Suit!"

Re: Booman Tribune Lays Out Why Clinton On Wright Is So Wrong

D. — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:30:00 -0000

Disagree in part. Like a lot of things of late, the black community as a whole hasn't really cared about their definition (watch BET lately?) until now.

But back to the point: you think that anyone in the group you just named is seriously going to vote for Obama? Of course not. If you cover the chink in the armor, people will stop trying to hit it.

Obama's stuck in this one spot. If he stays here, he'll miss his chance to offer his stance on the REAL issues in our country.

Re: Booman Tribune Lays Out Why Clinton On Wright Is So Wrong

Ronnie B — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:05:00 -0000

It's not about doing nothing; it's about knowing what battles to fight and which ones not to. Like I said earlier, most of America already thinks this (Wright) isn't an issue. Why continue to give it creedence?

We didn't introduce Rev. Wright in the first place, so I think you're misplaced in suggesting that we retire the issue. It's Sean Hannity; it's Rush Limbaugh; it's Neil Boortz; it's Michael Savage; it's FOX News; it's all of your favorite conservative pundits who are working feverishly to keep the issue alive.

Now, if there's one thing that I preach is to never surrender the power of self-definition. So it is in this situation--where a non-Black news media is essentially mis-defining a vital element American and Black culture, that somebody has to hold forth and not allow this to happen.

And if you Black conservatives who value the opinions of the folks who seek to mis-define the Black church and Black culture won't speak up, then others will.

You see, this isn't about Obama as much as it's about maintaining our power of self-definition.

Re: Booman Tribune Lays Out Why Clinton On Wright Is So Wrong

Anonymous — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:18:00 -0000

D,

I agree. You have to pick and chose your battles and sometimes it can be hard but you have to take the high ground! I for one, don't think I can take the continuous dicussion of Wright. They are anxiously waiting to start running thouse sound bite "religiously" again! As an Obama supporter who knows they took it out of context it's hard for me to listen to!!!! Not to mention that I don't agree with everything he says particulary the "angry" sounding tone. BO does NOT need to be seen as the angry black man! Bill already said they are "picking on the girl". Come on! That's exactly what racists/racially senstive/racially challenged etc need to completely go mad! The angry Black man cheating the women out of her "rightful" place in history. Many women relate to this- no matter the ethnicity. As they told Oprah - we are woman first! You see how Oprah backed off. Woman (mostly white) are her bread and butter - not that she needs any more!! :-) At any rate, the last thing a woman needs, particulary a white woman is to think an angry Black man is "cheating" Hillary out of what she deserves!

n

Re: Booman Tribune Lays Out Why Clinton On Wright Is So Wrong

D. — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:58:00 -0000

Fine. Keep pushing the issue, keep pissing people off, and I'll see you at President McCain's inauguration.

It's not about doing nothing; it's about knowing what battles to fight and which ones not to. Like I said earlier, most of America already thinks this (Wright) isn't an issue. Why continue to give it creedence? Aren't there more important things to discuss?

What will ultimately happen is the the Obama campaign (and its supporters) will get stuck in defense. Let's face it: Obama is going to get attacked from ALL sides. Unless the resources exist to fend of every single attack (which I already know they don't), there's going to be some stuff you have to let ride.

But if 55% of the country is satisfied with the explantion of Wright, guess what: you've made your point. Let the pundits talk; that's their job. But don't plant your flag here.

Make this your line in the sand, and you lose.

Re: Booman Tribune Lays Out Why Clinton On Wright Is So Wrong

Ronnie B — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:45:00 -0000

d sez:
Justice,

So let them hate. If you stop discussing them, you push them more and more to the fringes.

Evil (and hate) prevail where good people do nothing.

D prefers that his political opponents do nothing so that the hatefulness of Clintonism and (some) Republicanism may prevail.

Re: Booman Tribune Lays Out Why Clinton On Wright Is So Wrong

justice58 — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:29:00 -0000

Nancy Pelosi can wear a skirt and still have a pair!

Go Nancy ---Go Nancy!

Re: Booman Tribune Lays Out Why Clinton On Wright Is So Wrong

justice58 — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:13:00 -0000

Looks Like Pelosi Ain't Taking No Sh%t! Go Nancy---Go Nancy!

http://www.politico.com/blo...

Pelosi's office responds to Clinton supporters

Brendan Daly, a spokesman for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), responded late Wednesday night to a letter by supporters of New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton urging his boss to stop making comments about the superdelegates respecting the will of Democratic primary voters and caucus-goers:

“Speaker Pelosi is confident that superdelegates will choose between Sens. Clinton or Obama — our two strong candidates — before the convention in August," Daly said. "That choice will be based on many considerations, including respecting the decisions of millions of Americans who have voted in primaries and participated in caucuses. The speaker believes it would do great harm to the Democratic Party if superdelegates are perceived to overturn the will of the voters. This has been her position throughout this primary season, regardless of who was ahead at any particular point in delegates or votes.”

The Clinton supporters had asked Pelosi, who remains neutral in the presidential contest, to refrain from making comments that could influence undecided superdelegates to back the candidate with the most votes — who, at this point, happens to be the New York senator's rival, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama. But Daly's comments suggest the speaker will not be backing off her stance anytime soon.

Re: Booman Tribune Lays Out Why Clinton On Wright Is So Wrong

justice58 — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:50:00 -0000

" It was all calculated since she is now so desperate that she doesn't care about the Black vote at all at this point, assuming that since most of us would not vote for McCain, we would eventually return to the Democratic fold and vote for her. Ain't going to happen.
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Damn straight! Ain't gonna happen!

Squarepeg,

That's exactly what the Handkerchief Heads thought! They were looking for Barack to collaspe because he is running against a Clinton! They got tricked- The m-fers!

Their @sses will be voted--O.U.T.!

One thing that disgusts me is an Uncle Tom Handkerchief Head M-Fer!

Hey, I get emotional!

Re: Booman Tribune Lays Out Why Clinton On Wright Is So Wrong

SquarePeg — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:55:00 -0000

d,

Thats not what Anon 6:30 said, he was trying desperately to misdirect this discussion by arguing that she was ASKED the question. Had she not gone to that rag, how was she going to get her talking point for day out? It was all calculated since she is now so desperate that she doesn't care about the Black vote at all at this point, assuming that since most of us would not vote for McCain, we would eventually return to the Democratic fold and vote for her. Ain't going to happen. She has truly gone over the line.

Also, the CBC has been sell-outs long before the Obama/Clinton campaigns began. These people are interested in only one thing: themselves and maintaining their perceived entitled life time positions. It's time for them to retire.

At this point, they are running scared, because they were waiting for Obama to collapse so they could bring their sorry asses out of the closet and openly support Hillary. They have waited to long and have painted themselves in a corner, they they now have to live with.

Hopefully, the people who have supported these posers will vote them out ASAP!

Re: Booman Tribune Lays Out Why Clinton On Wright Is So Wrong

rikyrah — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:33:00 -0000

Her response was simple, short and completely sensible: The guy wouldn't have been my pastor. Period.

And from that, we once again get the complete freak-out and melee of race-baiting out of the Obama Compound and its cultists that we've all grown accustomed to, ever since the knee-jerk shrieks of "racism!" occurred after Bill Clinton called Obama a "kid".

F'ing laughable

And, the further comparisons of Wright to:

a) Don Imus

b) DAVID DUKE

Oh, I guess those were innocent too.

Re: Booman Tribune Lays Out Why Clinton On Wright Is So Wrong

justice58 — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:21:00 -0000

"The only Obama attackers I'm attacking are Bill and Hillary Rodham Nixon.

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ahahahhahahahaha! I'm with you!

Re: Booman Tribune Lays Out Why Clinton On Wright Is So Wrong

Craig Hickman — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:04:00 -0000

This article got lost in this post, but it's linked in the entire article posted above.

Hillary's Prayer: Hillary Clinton's Religion and Politics

Read it. It's an eye opener to be sure.

Re: Booman Tribune Lays Out Why Clinton On Wright Is So Wrong

Craig Hickman — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:01:00 -0000

The only Obama attackers I'm attacking are Bill and Hillary Rodham Nixon.

Re: Booman Tribune Lays Out Why Clinton On Wright Is So Wrong

craig — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:00:00 -0000

The Nixons are spreading some newsletter from TUCC in which Wright criticizes Israel's role in Palestine.

So now he's anti-Israel and pro-Palestine and that means that Obama is lying about his pro-Israel stances and he will lose Jewish voters.

That's what the talking heads are suggesting anyway.

Will voters see this is desperate smear tactic or will they believe it?

Re: Booman Tribune Lays Out Why Clinton On Wright Is So Wrong

D. — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:51:00 -0000

Justice,
So let them hate. If you stop discussing them, you push them more and more to the fringes.

If you know they're not going to vote for him anyway, why give them airtime? The more you push back, the more angry you look to those same white voters, and by default, you drag the campaign down.

I don't think anyone cares about the actual issue anymore, but believe that the more you attack Obama's attackers, the more unifed you're going to make some whites against Obama.

Re: Booman Tribune Lays Out Why Clinton On Wright Is So Wrong

Anonymous — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:48:00 -0000

D,

I think you are right and I am a BO supporter. They are and will continue to be ALL over his comments re:Wright. In fact, it gives Fox all the more reason to play the clips every time Wright is mentioned by anyone! In fact, all day long yesterday Fox had "BREAKING" news about Wright..he changed locations...he canceled an appearance. Seriously guys, it was "BREAKING NEW"!! Even MSNBC made fun of it!

Re: Booman Tribune Lays Out Why Clinton On Wright Is So Wrong

justice58 — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:44:00 -0000

d,

The ones that are attacking Barack isn't going to vote for him anyway & their main objective is to stop white voters from voting for him!

These are the haters! The mean, spiteful haters to anything and all that is good!

Re: Booman Tribune Lays Out Why Clinton On Wright Is So Wrong

D. — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:38:00 -0000

Justice,
According to the fact that most of America took him at his word-both before and after his speech-and that those who didn't are just going to keep attacking him over it.

Let them talk, write them off, and move on. There's more important stuff in the world.

Re: Booman Tribune Lays Out Why Clinton On Wright Is So Wrong

justice58 — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:28:00 -0000

d,

"What Anon 6:30 is saying is that every time Obama tries to explain away the relationship, he just digs a deeper hole".

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According to who? You & anon ghost!

d, you're really seeing something that is not there! There is NO there...there!

Re: Booman Tribune Lays Out Why Clinton On Wright Is So Wrong

D. — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:10:00 -0000

Justice,
What Anon 6:30 is saying is that every time Obama tries to explain away the relationship, he just digs a deeper hole. It's got nothing to do with polls. Like I said before: if you want the issue to go away, stop giving it airtime.

Peg,

Why are the CBC now sellouts? Because they're staying out of the election or because they're backing Clinton?

If it's the former, the anger is justified. If it's the latter, it's misplaced.

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SquarePeg — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:02:00 -0000

One more thing - the silence of the Congressional Black Caucus is loud to the point of being deafening - and it's also a call to action for us to recruit, develop, train and field candidates to give all of them, save for Jesse Jackson, Jr., and the other half who hasn't endorsed anyone, primary challenges in 2010.
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As many on this blog have said in previous posts regarding the CBC, the silence is truly deafening and only confirms what many have already realize: a bunch of rag-head, self-interested sell-outs.

They truly didn't think Obama had a chance.

I wonder what all these handkerchief-heads are saying to Ms. Hillary now that she has kicked the Black community in the gut. Her "true colors" are showing, now will they show theirs?

Re: Booman Tribune Lays Out Why Clinton On Wright Is So Wrong

SquarePeg — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:58:00 -0000

Anon 6:30,

You say Clinton only responded after being asked the question, but the better point would be, why would she have an editorial conference with a paper owned by a m/billionaire, Scaife, whose mission in life has been to excoriate both Hillary and Bill Clinton whenever he had the chance.

Scaife funded numerous investigations into proving that Vince Foster was killed by the Clintons, advocated for the impeachment of Bill and sponsored the swiftboating of John Kerry.

The paper where she was asked that question is a known conservative paper that usually attacks progressive points of views and Hillary knew that when she accepted their invitation for a sit down meeting.

Now knowing that, and better yet Hillary knowing this is a conservative paper, you would think that one of the first questions she would be asked would be about the Reverend Wright so-called controversy. Hillary knew exactly what she was doing, and they gave her the perfect platform to spew what she wanted to say knowing that they would ask that question.

The people on this blogs are not the ones who will run when you throw out those misdirection bones. We know what day to go and vote, and we know as well when someone is trying to justify the unjustifiable.

Go back to trollville.