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Jack and Jill Politics: Clinton Staying in Race In Case Obama is Assassinated

  • Admiral Komack · 1 year ago
    Clinton cites Kennedy assassination in primaries


    By DEVLIN BARRETT, Associated Press Writer

    1 minute ago



    SIOUX FALLS, S.D. - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has issued a quick apology after citing the 1968 assassination of Robert F. Kennedy as a reason she should remain in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination despite increasingly long odds.



    "I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation and in particular the Kennedy family was in any way offensive. I certainly had no intention of that whatsoever," the former first lady said.



    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080523/ap_on_el_pr/clinton;_ylt=AsThFrgEInzjTzFBURk714Ws0NUE
  • Admiral Komack · 1 year ago
    Perhaps she should have added, "as far as I know."
  • Jack Turner · 1 year ago
    Jill, you called upon the Clinton campaign to clarify and apoligize.


    You are too kind. The time for "clarification and apologies has long since passed.



    She needs to go away. Make money giving speeches. Run a hedge fund. Anything else.



    what a horrible person.
  • Admiral Komack · 1 year ago
    Well, Samantha Power was right.


    Hillary Clinton IS a monster.



    Superdelegates, it is time for the endgame.
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    She apolgized... to the Kennedy family, obviously not to Obama. Even Mike Huckabee has more morals then she does. I don't think it's an accident she said it. Her surragates have been saying this all along. She's hinted a black guy couldn't win without really saying a black guy couldn't win.
  • icebergslim · 1 year ago
    Jill,


    Here is the video/youtube of Hillary stating this.



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vyFqmp4wzI&eur;
  • icebergslim · 1 year ago
    Here is Clinton's clarification. I am sure the Kennedy Family is in angst over this.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjWCM_RSIY0
  • Craig Hickman · 1 year ago
    Her full explanation reveals the horror of who she is:


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    "Earlier today I was discussing the Democratic primary history and in the course of that discussion mentioned the campaigns that both my husband and Senator Kennedy waged in California in June 1992 and 1968 and I was referencing those to make the point that we have had nomination primary contests that go into June. That's a historic fact.





    "The Kennedys have been much on my mind the last days because of Senator Kennedy and I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation, and particularly for the Kennedy family was in any way offensive. I certainly had no intention of that, whatsoever. My view is that we have to look to the past and to our leaders who have inspired us and give us a lot to live up to, and I'm honored to hold Senator Kennedy's seat in the United States Senate from the state of New York and have the highest regard for the entire Kennedy family."



    ::



    Notice that she re-iterates the historical fact. That doesn't show contrition.



    Notice, also, that she talks about regret, but doesn't offer an apology.



    I said in an earlier post she would stop at nothing in her pursuit of power.



    She's not a monster.



    She's evil incarnate.
  • djchefron · 1 year ago
    There are some African Americans who still support her.She can play racial politics.she can hope for an assination and they still support her.
  • The Christian Progressive Libe · 1 year ago
    She's getting lit up over at Daily Kos. Almost 1500 comments for her to get the hell out.


    Howard Dean needs to pull the trigger, and if he keeps on foot-dragging, he may need to be shown the door as well as Hillary.
  • NMP · 1 year ago
    What clarification do you need when this is the THIRD time she has said it in the last few months! It just never received coverage before!
  • Pamela · 1 year ago
    Hillary Clinton: "Why Would I Drop Out Before Barack Obama Is Assassinated?"


    Posted May 23, 2008 | 04:38 PM (EST)

    By David Rees

    huffingtonpost.com





    Anybody watch Step It Up And Dance last night? HOT STUFF!



    Anyway gang, I just read something remarkable. "Remarkable" as in, "It is remarkable that my eyeballs are still in my head after reading that."



    In an interview with the editorial board of the Sioux Falls Argus-Leader today, Hillary Clinton brought up Bobby Kennedy's June, 1968 assassination as an argument against her dropping out of the Democratic primary.



    "My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it," she said, dismissing calls to drop out.



    She has a point: June is a great month for political assassinations.



    Why drop out of the race before all the assassins have had their say?



    After all, we know Barack Obama has received multiple death threats -- because he is black, of course, and because some of our fellow citizens think he's a secret Muslim terrorist who is going to take the oath of office on the Koran and make us all pray to Mecca five times a day with that screechy music coming over the loudspeakers(?) and then he'll fly Air Force One into the White House(?).



    And the truth is, Obama has consistently failed to win over those voters who want to see him murdered.
  • justice58 · 1 year ago
    Hillary's campaign need to be suspended immediately!


    Where are the Superdelegates? End this nightmare now!
  • Craig Hickman · 1 year ago
    What clarification do you need when this is the THIRD time she has said it in the last few months! It just never received coverage before!


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    I wasn't aware that this was the third time.



    Evil incarnate.



    ::



    Michelle Bernard looks as though she's about to cry.
  • honey01 · 1 year ago
    You know, I've I tried really hard these last few days not to go there when she kept referencing "act of God". I know some were speculating what she meant, but I thought even for her that is too far fetched. I thought maybe I am just super paranoid with and all the double talk of her campaign. But now, I wish I could I say how I REALLY feel. I don't want any visits from the men in black suits.


    F*** that B*tch
  • N. Mahana · 1 year ago
    She has a lot of damn nerve! You cannot intellectualize this dumb shit. Jack is right, she is a horrible person.
  • RhondaCoca · 1 year ago
    "It's too late, she's gone too far, she's lost the sun: she's come undone."
  • Craig Hickman · 1 year ago
    What is that from, rhondacoca?
  • RhondaCoca · 1 year ago
    A song by The Guess Who called "She's Come Undone"
  • Rachel · 1 year ago
    Well. I guess the silver lining is, people will have to stop talking about her forcing herself into the veep spot.


    But seriously...damn.



    I hope she just "assassinated" her political future.
  • Angela · 1 year ago
    As usual Hillary's apology is a lie...she acts like this is the first time she said it. Below cites other occasions.


    "Hillary invokes RFK assassination Posted: Friday, May 23, 2008 4:23 PM by Mark Murray







    Filed Under: Clinton, Obama



    From NBC's Mark Murray and Domenico Montanaro







    This might not help the Hillary-for-veep chatter... The New York Post writes, "Hillary Clinton today brought up the assassination of Sen. Robert Kennedy while defending her decision to stay in the race against Barack Obama. 'My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it,' she said, dismissing calls to drop out."







    "Clinton made her comments at a meeting with the Sioux Falls Argus-Leader's editorial board while campaigning in South Dakota, where she complained that, 'People have been trying to push me out of this ever since Iowa.'"







    Obama spokesman Bill Burton responded to Clinton's remarks. "Senator Clinton's statement before the Argus Leader editorial board was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign."







    NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli notes that Clinton said something similar the day after the Indiana and North Carolina primaries. "Sometimes you gotta calm people down a little bit. But if you look at successful presidential campaigns, my husband did not get the nomination until June of 1992," she said. "I remember tragically when Senator Kennedy won California near the end of that process."







    In fact, the specter of assassination was first raised in this campaign on January 8, when a Clinton introducer, a retired teacher from New Hampshire, brought it up before Clinton spoke. "If you look back, some people have been comparing one of the other candidates to JFK, and he was a wonderful leader. He gave us a lot of hope," the retired teacher said. "But he was assassinated, and Lyndon Baines Johnson actually did all of his work and got both the Republicans and Democrats to pass those measures."







    Clinton spokesman Mo Elleithe just said to a group of reporters in South Dakota -- including Memoli -- that this is "one of the more ridiculous" issues that has come up in a long race. The campaign, he said, will soon send out an official comment.







    *** UPDATE *** Here is the official statement from Elleithe: "She was simply referencing her husband in 1992 and Bobby kennedy in 1968 as historical expmales of the nominating contest going well into the summer. Any, any reading into it beyond that is inaccurate."
  • setare · 1 year ago
    Jack is so right. No apology would do now. Not that she has apologized to Obama anyway. I don't know if I'm impressed or a bit annoyed at the understated reaction by his campaign spokespeople. I think they're allowed to (and maybe should) react more strongly to her latest travesty.
  • The Christian Progressive Libe · 1 year ago
    Well, at least Wild Bill will quit pushing for his wife to get on Obama's ticket.


    She should ask for a job cleaning the bathrooms in the White House instead of VP; that's how low she's sunk.



    Stick a fork in her - even the superdelegates who haven't committed have to be looking at this and going "W-T-H?"
  • SJW · 1 year ago
    Keith Olbermann will have a special comment for her tonight. It should be interesting. She is truly a sociopath and unfit for any government service.
  • kitty · 1 year ago
    Just heard about this and am at a loss for words.


    This heifer needs to be kicked to the curb. Now.
  • Craig Hickman · 1 year ago
    Wasn't Emmett Till from Chicago?


    ::



    Yes, Hillary Rodham Nixon knows all about Civil Rights history in this nation.
  • Angela · 1 year ago
    to setare;


    I think there would be more impact if the Kennedy family came out and made a statement against Hillary's comments, but, they have enough to deal with. By the way, Ted Kennedy did ask Obama to stand in to speak in his place at Wesleyan commencement this week-end.
  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    FUCK THIS BITCH!


    And ANY Negro still with her after this...



    Fuck them too.
  • isonprize · 1 year ago
    CPL.


    Why you insulting the folks who clean the bathrooms at the White House? That is an honorable job.



    One that Sen. Clinton obviously is not fit for. She needs help ~~ far, far away from the public.



    God can forgive her, but it'll be a cold day in hell before I will.
  • Pamela · 1 year ago
    She's getting lit up over at Daily Kos. Almost 1500 comments for her to get the hell out.


    Over 3800 comments at HuffPo
  • Sepia · 1 year ago
    This woman is truly evil.


    Now it the perfect time for Howard Dean and the Super Delegates to stand up to this poor excuse for a human being, and demand that she drop out AND leave the Democratic Party.



    All along, her actions have been down right treasonistic throughout this entire campaign, but this takes the cake.



    Yes, The DNC must kick Hillary Clinton out NOW.



    If they do not, the DNC is sending a CLEAR message to the African American Community: We Don't Care About You.
  • Dermar 2.0 · 1 year ago
    She wasn't thinking about Obama dying, just about her winning.
  • The Christian Progressive Libe · 1 year ago
    isonprize, my apologies, cause those people at the White House work hard cleaning those bathrooms and wouldn't have time to train Missy Hillary.


    She'd be better off mucking out the horse barns???



    And at last count, there are at least seven diaries at Kos, with averages of 500 comments or more, repeating that she needs to get the hell out.
  • setare · 1 year ago
    Good point, Angela.


    Even better would be if the DNC leadership denounced and rejected Clinton right this moment.
  • Craig Hickman · 1 year ago
    Even better would be if the DNC leadership denounced and rejected Clinton right this moment.


    ::



    When hell freezes over.
  • setare · 1 year ago
    True, Craig! But the powers that be better say something and soon.
  • B-Serious · 1 year ago
    This is such a weird experience.


    I cannot believe she went there. You can't get any worse than this.



    What kind of sick mind does it take to even think of going there. And her apology was garbage. Actually, it wasn't even an apology. And she's surprised that she's gotten this type of response??? She's crazy.



    I'm looking forward to Olbermann's special comment. Because I am truly at a loss for words.
  • heartsandflowers · 1 year ago
    She's gonna say nig*er next. I think that's the only thing left. I wonder how the kids of Bobby Kennedy feel NOW since they were supporting her? Too bad Real Time is on summer hiatus!
  • Kenya W · 1 year ago
    Pamela,
    You have lost your ever lovin mind! That was the funniest thing that I have read in weeks...in a not so funny way. But that comment was priceless.

    Let me go back to finish reading the others. Girl your are a clown for that one.
  • setare · 1 year ago
    heartsandflowers,


    RFK Jr. says he's just fine with what she said. (I posted a link to his statement in the newest comments section.) Unbelievable, no?
  • Pamela · 1 year ago
    Kenya W. I wish I could take credit but that was the work of David Rees at Huffington Post.
  • icebergslim · 1 year ago
    I put my diary up on Hillary, she is beyond the pale.


    here
  • leneypoo · 1 year ago
    I hate the "I'm sorry that you were offended" non-apology. Basically it's the inability to recognize how out of line her words were.


    *sigh*



    I just got back from the Obama rally in S.Florida feeling great and I had to come home to this stupidity.
  • Pamela · 1 year ago
    Did you all catch Keith Oberman's special comment about Hillary on Countdown? If not you should catch it on YouTube. He hit this one out of the park
  • B-Serious · 1 year ago
    Keith Olbermann. . .


    AMEN!
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    What really needs to happen is for the Hillary supers to move to Obama. That would be an even worse indictment of her comments.
  • justice58 · 1 year ago
    Keith did it! He said her comment is unforgiveable! If I remember correctly, didn't he say that Hillary is not fit to be President of United States?


    The Super Delelgates should end this race before sunrise!
  • icebergslim · 1 year ago
    Keith Olbermann was on fire with his special comment. As soon as it is on youtube, it need to be on the FP. for real.
  • justice58 · 1 year ago
    Guys,


    Forgive me--That should be delegates! Oops!
  • Dermar 2.0 · 1 year ago
    I caught it and boy was it beautiful! I just contacted my congressman who is BLACK and a graduate of my college FAMU who is shamelessly still supporting Hillary Clinton. If the party leaders dont wanna denounce this we must FORCE THEM TOO! Please contact your state leaders who are unpledged and supporting hillary!!! This race needs to be over!




    Main Capitol Switchboard: 202-224-3121, then ask for the particular Senator's office:
  • B-Serious · 1 year ago
    MSNBC got it right.


    CNN really dropped the ball. And I didn't appreciate having to watch Campbell Brown and Hillary Rosen make excuses for Hillary Clinton all night.



    Roland didn't get a lot of time to talk. I was hoping for more from him, but it seemed like Campbell framed the debate to her liking from the start.



    I'm very thankful for Keith Olbermann. Hillary crossed the line. . . even for someone like her. . . she crossed the line.



    And I could give a damn about anything her apologists have to say.



    She still hasn't acknowledged the harm her comments have caused. Sadly, I doubt she'll ever apologize to Obama or his family.



    But it's just as well. Her apology. . . her word . . . her name means absolutely nothing at this point.
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    I'm a regular lurker to this blog (I love it) and I have never commented before but I have to now.


    Just when I think she couldn't POSSIBLY piss me off any more...she goes above and beyond.



    It's time for her to GO. NOW.
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    From Blacks4Barack !
    Demand To DNC: Kick Hillary Out NOW !

    Insinuates That Obama Could Be ASSASINATED !



    Now, things have gone way too far. Today, in an appearance in South Dakota, Hillary Clinton justified her reason for staying in the campaign by referring to the fact that presidential hopeful 'Robert Kennedy was assasinated in June'...implying that the same could occur to senator Obama. THIS IS SICK !!! Regardless of how the pundits try to spin this as just another misspeak, the statement speaks for itself and displays the diobolical mentality of Hillary Clinton.



    It is unclear as to whether she is actually hoping that Obama would be killed, therefore giving her an open path to the Democratic nomination, or if she may be signaling her desire to some sick, warp minded homicidal maniac. Whichever be the case, her statement is automatic grounds for the Democratic National Committee headed by Howard Dean to demand that she remove herself from the race. If he does not, American Democratic should demand HIS stepping down !



    This can not be tolerated. Regardless of who you are a supporter of, Hillary, Obama or McCain, ANYONE who would wish the death of another human being in order to win a political position is sick, dangerous, maniacal, duranged and totally mentally and morally unfit for any political position, particularly President or V.P. of the United States.



    CONTACT THE DNC....

    HILLARY MUST BE KICKED OUT NOW !!!!

    FLOOD THE PHONE LINES...CALL THE DNC TODAY !!!

    CALL DNC: 202-863-8000



    E Mail SuperDelegate Donna Brazile:

    donna@brazileassociates.com



    MSNBC

    chuck.todd@nbcuni.com

    andrea.mitchell@nbcuni.com

    hardball@msnbc.com



    HILLARY MUST BE KICKED OUT NOW !!!!

    SEND THIS EVERYWHERE !!!!!!!!!!

    Visit: www.Blacks4Barack.org</br>
  • Pamela · 1 year ago
    From Olbermann's Special Comments:


    (full content here http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24797758)

    <...
    have forgiven you your insistence that there have been widespread calls for you to end your campaign, when such calls had been few.



    We have forgiven you your misspeaking about Martin Luther King's relative importance to the Civil Rights movement.



    We have forgiven you your misspeaking about your under-fire landing in Bosnia.



    We have forgiven you insisting Michigan's vote wouldn't count and then claiming those who would not count it were Un-Democratic.



    We have forgiven you pledging to not campaign in Florida and thus disenfranchise voters there, and then claim those who stuck to those rules were as wrong as those who defended slavery or denied women the vote.



    We have forgiven you the photos of Osama Bin Laden in an anti-Obama ad...



    We have forgiven you fawning over the fairness of Fox News while they were still calling you a murderer.



    We have forgiven you accepting Richard Mellon Scaife's endorsement and then laughing as you described his "deathbed conversion."



    We have forgiven you quoting the electoral predictions of Boss Karl Rove.



    We have forgiven you the 3 a.m. Phone Call commercial.



    We have forgiven you President Clinton's disparaging comparison of the Obama candidacy to Jesse Jackson's.



    We have forgiven you Geraldine Ferraro's national radio interview suggesting Obama would not still be in the race had he been a white man.



    We have forgiven you the dozen changing metrics and the endless self-contradictions of your insistence that your nomination is mathematically probable rather than a statistical impossibility.



    We have forgiven you your declaration of some primary states as counting and some as not.



    We have forgiven you exploiting Jeremiah Wright in front of the editorial board of the lunatic-fringe Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.



    We have forgiven you exploiting William Ayers in front of the debate on ABC.



    We have forgiven you for boasting of your "support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans"...



    We have even forgiven you repeatedly praising Senator McCain at Senator Obama's expense, and your own expense, and the Democratic ticket's expense.



    But Senator, we cannot forgive you this.



    ... Because a senator - a politician - a person - who can let hang in mid-air the prospect that she might just be sticking around in part, just in case the other guy gets shot - has no business being, and no capacity to be, the President of the United States.
  • Val · 1 year ago
    Clinton, you invoked a political nightmare
    Olbermann: Referencing RFK's assassination as a reason for staying in the race is unforgiveable



    The text for Olbermann's comments is already available. The video clip is not ready as yet. Keith went off.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24797758/
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    I recommend that you all NOT call the congressional offices of members of congress who are supers. Their congressional offices are not allowed to discuss anything related to campaigns whatsoever.


    Most of them have websites for their own campaigns. Call those instead. Just a suggestion.
  • Val · 1 year ago
    Olbermann's Video now available.
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24798368#24798368
  • The Roundtable Discussion · 1 year ago
    I am in shock at what Sen. Clinton has said. Total lack of decency, respect.


    OBAMA 08
  • Isaiah 58 · 1 year ago
    Hillary Clinton has shown herself unfit to sit in Bobby Kennedy's chair in the US Senate. Who do we have on deck in New York who can take her down in 2012? I think the only future she should face is one spent working at her husband's foundation. Her political career is OVER.
  • Pamela · 1 year ago
    Kevin Powell?
  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    thank you, Pamela.
  • Kenya W · 1 year ago
    Pamela you just stop it. I have been a huge Kevin Powell fan since 1992. You just hush up, with such wonderful comments.
    That brother is sitting on the bubble of something great. I remember all of his contributions to VIBE and everything.

    You are on point today, sis.
  • Pamela · 1 year ago
    Thanks kenya! I've been watching his career since the Real World and believe he has a great political future ahead. Hopefully he will explode these next three years so he is ready to take Clinton's seat. Worse case we get him in the House.
  • Buckeye Yonsei · 1 year ago
    Guess I'm coming to the comments a little late--last week, a friend called me "paranoid" for saying no way did I ever want Clinton in the VP spot even if it meant more of her supporters would come out and vote, because she'd find it too tempting to be one heartbeat away from the Oval, and I would never want President Obama's life put at that risk.


    No way did I trust her, Bill, or anyone still loyal to them who might benefit from a "shocking national tragedy" that would benefit her if she were number two.



    My friend is no longer so sure that I'm "paranoid". Anyway, I hope this one finally gets people to knock off that horrifying so-called "dream" ticket idea.



    By the way, Jack + Jill Politics, thank you for existing; I'm an American living and working overseas, and the internet is my lifeline back home. I'm just a lurker, but I appreciate all the posts and the discussions very much. Peace -
  • AgentX · 1 year ago
    Yeah, we were all over this on the AAPP BlogTalkRadio Show.
    She's gone TOO FAR! TOO DAMN FAR! this is a BRIDGE TOO FAR!



    Emotions aside, she didn't even need to bring it up! She doesn't even have to continue her campaign. the DNC has rules and choices to make if a candidate is 'picked off' or too sick to serve. Hillary would have been in that short list of options, but not after this. Now if something happens, she is suspect #1.