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Jack and Jill Politics: Clyburn throws support to Obama

  • justice58 · 1 year ago
    When Clyburn mentioned his daughter & grandson supporting Obama, I knew he would also!


    Yeah baby!
  • Ronnie B · 1 year ago
    Congressman Clyburn is a man worthy of great respect and appreciation.


    While remaining undeclared, he had the wisdom, class, and courage to demand better of the media and Senator Clinton during her race-baiting strategy.
  • golden star · 1 year ago
    Because of this primary campaign, I have come to know and respect Rep. Clyburn. It's been truly inspiring to see him be a beacon of leadership, political skills, and deep commitment.


    It's a beautiful thing.
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    Not impressed by this now, he should have done this months ago, along with all the other uncommitted so called super delegates to have avoided this hot mess of her doing as much damage to Obama as she could.
  • Shaw Kenawe · 1 year ago
    Can someone tell me why Terry McAuliff is still on my teevee saying no one has enough delegates and that Clinton is talking to super d's to try to get them to come out for her and that Hill has 18 million in popular vote? Now it's 18 million, yesterday it was 17. She got another mill over night?


    Will someone please help me to understand her crazies?
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    Ooops!!! Clinton campaign just informed media that they've gotten ahead of themselves....for the 50th time this campaign. No, she's not conceding tonight, thank you.


    This ain't over by a long shot, unless Obama, who's trailing Clinton in the popular vote, wants to concede NOW.



    See y'all in Denver, biotches. :-)



    Peace out.
  • justice58 · 1 year ago
    "See y'all in Denver, biotches. :-)


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    Not according to Nancy Pelosi!



    Beeeeyotch!
  • Craig Hickman · 1 year ago
    Obama better claim victory tonight no matter how many total delegates he earns.


    Enough is enough.
  • justice58 · 1 year ago
    "Obama better claim victory tonight no matter how many total delegates he earns.
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    Hell Yeah!
  • Angela · 1 year ago
    from Politico


    Superdelegates surge to Obama

    By MIKE ALLEN | 6/3/08 11:04 AM EST Updated: 6/3/08 12:25 PM EST Text Size:







    A tsunami of superdelegates is poised to rush to Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) over the next 12 hours, giving him a mathematical lock on his party’s presidential nomination.



    The superdelegate surge is likely to swamp a few holdouts within the camp of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) who have been resisting a prompt concession.



    Aides say Clinton does not plan to concede or bid supporters farewell when she speaks in New York tonight, but instead will salute her supporters and argue for the strength of her candidacy.



    But her clout is ebbing by the hour. At 6:56 a.m. Eastern time, the Obama campaign announced the first of the day’s slew of endorsements by superdelegates – the Democratic Party officials who have a vote on the nominee and will determine who it is, since neither Obama nor Clinton have won enough delegates in primaries and caucuses to put them over the top.



    Clinton campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe said on NBC’s “Today” show: “If Senator Obama gets the number, I think Hillary Clinton will congratulate him, call him the nominee. We haven't gotten to that number yet.”



    Obama needs only about 36 more delegates, and he told The Associated Press in an interview that he expects to get about 15 of those in today’s primaries in South Dakota and Montana. Superdelegates will finish the job.



    “A lot of people recognize that it is going to be time for us to pivot and move on,” he said.



    Robert Gibbs, Obama’s campaign communications director, said on CNN’s “American Morning” that the campaign is “still working the phones and talking to people.”



    “I think there's a pretty good chance that by the time Barack Obama walks out on the stage tonight, we'll walk out as Democratic nominee as president of the United States,” Gibbs said. “We'll begin a new phase in this campaign and talk about what's next for this country and what direction we can take it in — the type of change that you can believe in.”



    See Also

    Five things to watch in South Dakota

    Ben Smith blogs Clinton dropout rumors

    Clinton isn't ready to pack it in

    Joyce Lalonde, a political and education activist from Michigan, was the first to superdelegate announce for Obama today. She was quickly followed by House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) who announced on NBC’s “Today” show.



    At noon, the Obama campaign announced: "Congresswoman Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick (MI-13) endorsed Barack Obama. Obama is 36.5 delegates away from securing the Democratic nomination."



    And on a conference call, Clyburn announced three more superdelegates who he said will endorse Obama today: Rep. John Spratt of South Carolina; New York superdelegate Ralph Dawson, and Tim Moore, a South Carolina Edwards delegate.



    Clyburn said he'd spoken to Nancy Pelosi.



    "She will be making her own announcement on that subject tomorrow...or the next day," he said.



    Shortly after polls close in Montana at 10 p.m. Eastern time, as many as 28 other superdelegates – including House members, senators and governors – could quickly follow, according to statements they have made to Politico and other news organizations.



    Obama aides are hoping that he’ll be able to announce victory when he speaks in St. Paul tonight, but they say they aren’t positive he’ll reach that level in time. But the nomination should be his within hours after that.



    Most Clinton advisers recognize that it’s just about time for a unity event with Obama, but they say she’ll take a day or more to choreograph her exit.



    A few Clinton diehards argue she can still win, and have vowed to fight all the way through the August convention. But Obama’s prospective superdelegate tally is likely to sink that argument.
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    He had better claim the victory and stop lavishing all the praise on this bitter woman. She is not going to help him or he party, and, the sooner someone tells him this the better, this woman is not going away until McCain is in office.
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    Respect to Rep Clyburn. Ha, ha...your comments are so funny.


    As for McAuliffe & Ickes...they know they probably won't work on any campaign again after this poor showing. How did these Democratic insiders manage to lose their candidate the nomination. They know the rules inside and out! They know the caucus system! Can you say GUILT!



    They thought they were going to relax, get paid and wrap this up on Super Tuesday. She's inevitable! Barack's team made them sing for their supper!
  • justice58 · 1 year ago
    "Sing for their supper"


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    Too funny!
  • Craig Hickman · 1 year ago
    AP: Obama Clenches Nomination


    WASHINGTON (AP) - Barack Obama effectively clinched the Democratic presidential nomination Tuesday, based on an Associated Press tally of convention delegates, becoming the first black candidate ever to lead his party into a fall campaign for the White House.



    Campaigning on an insistent call for change, Obama outlasted former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton in a historic race that sparked record turnout in primary after primary, yet exposed deep racial divisions within the party.



    The AP tally was based on public commitments from delegates as well as more than a dozen private commitments. It also included a minimum number of delegates Obama was guaranteed even if he lost the final two primaries in South Dakota and Montana later in the day.



    The 46-year-old first term senator will face Sen. John McCain of Arizona in the fall campaign to become the 44th president.



    Clinton was ready to concede that her rival had amassed the delegates needed to triumph, according to officials in her campaign. These officials said the New York senator did not intend to suspend or end her candidacy in a speech Tuesday night in New York. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they had not been authorized to divulge her plans.



    Obama's triumph was fashioned on prodigious fundraising, meticulous organizing and his theme of change aimed at an electorate opposed to the Iraq war and worried about the economy—all harnessed to his own innate gifts as a campaigner.



    Clinton campaigned for months as the candidate of experience, a former first lady and second-term senator ready, she said, to take over on Day One.



    But after a year on the trail, Obama won the kickoff Iowa caucuses on Jan. 3, and the 46-year-old, first-term Illinois senator became something of an overnight political phenomenon.



    "We came together as Democrats, as Republicans and independents, to stand up and say we are one nation, we are one people and our time for change has come," he said that night in Des Moines.



    A video produced by Will I. Am and built around Obama's "Yes, we can" rallying cry quickly went viral. It drew its one millionth hit within a few days of being posted.



    Source
  • LexusOakland · 1 year ago
    According to demconwatch, he now only needs 32.5! So far today he has received nine endorsements, 6.5 of which are superdelegates. The .5 was left the Clinton camp.
  • justice58 · 1 year ago
    The count now is 29!!


    Oh Yeah! Oh Yeah!
  • M.Elisabeth · 1 year ago
    Hi Rikyrah and Jack, I come over(via The Field) to salute you on this most special day. I actually found your blog last fall and I know how hard you've all worked to make this day happen for Barack Obama and ALL of us. God Bless you all and bring on McSame! and Hillary, I won't mind if the door hits your butt on your way out.;-)


    PS. I post by "Maria" at Al's place but it looks like my ID is "M.Elisabeth". I'll have to fix that.
  • Christopher Chambers · 1 year ago
    Amid all the rancor and pseudo-issues...are we forgetting that history is being made now? I know that sounds trite...and I also know that white folks in various newsrooms or in Peoria don't want to publicly acknowledge it (nor do folk who depend on Podunk or the burbs ofr ratings, etc.) but this is one for the history books. Clyburn doesn't need to talk about the Civil Rights movement. That's all bullshit and ephemeral when compared to the centuries coming before it, and dream planted with the tears of a couple of folk off-loaded by the Portuguese on a frosty morning, at Jamestown Va. Yeah, there were hundreds, thousands dumped by then in the Caribbean, in Brazil. But these few were the first. if you want to know why I support Obama despite my differences on policy, apporach, tenor, you need not go any deeper than those tears in the dirt...
  • Black American Princess · 1 year ago
    Per the AP, Hillary said she's open to the VP slot. Surely this bitch is delusional. Jack & Jill massive, PLEASSSSSSE TELL ME he wouldn't offer her the VP spot....
  • evita · 1 year ago
    Blogger Black American Princess said...


    Per the AP, Hillary said she's open to the VP slot. Surely this bitch is delusional. Jack & Jill massive, PLEASSSSSSE TELL ME he wouldn't offer her the VP spot....





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    LMAO@ Jack and Jill Massive!
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    Clyburn says Obama and Hillary should talk about the veep spot and leave emotions out.


    I said it before and I will say it again, if she is own the ticket, I will not vote for that ticket. PERIOD.
  • Webb · 1 year ago
    Hey BAP, I saw that too...one thing that we can all say is that Hillary is one tough ___.


    Some folks think that the VP should be the ultimate attack dog on behalf of the President...I use to think that Jim Webb was such a person.



    "Dem Clintons is ruthless-never give up-never die-DMX-style Ruff Ryding Gangstas."



    I'll be happy with whoever Barack picks...just as long as the person is not boring...something tells me that Barack is an extraordinary picker...he picked Michelle didn't he?



    If Barack chooses Hillary, I'll accept it. I don't think that it will be a sign of weakness on his part.



    It will not be a co-presidency either...IT'S GONNA BE THE BARACK OBAMA SHOW all the way and BOTH Clintons will have to drank the kool-aid.
  • BPM · 1 year ago
    I tried to warn many thick heads that it has been about the VP slot since NC but they didn't want to deal with reality of conventions and nominations. They found more comfort in arguing against the facts with me than joining a concerted effort to head this off. Unless a vetting makes her an impossibility she will have the delegates for the VP slot and I get to watch others find a way to go back on their words to support the Obama-Clinton ticket despite strong statements to the contrary. Let the Hillary butt kissing and usual kneegros falling in line begin.....
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    Hallelujah, Clyburn said what we're all thinking re the possible ticket. He says they have to sit down and discuss all the factors that go into that, and then there has to be some VETTING!


    Even with vetting, the Clinton's are so secretive. They are not going to release everything. This Vanity Fair story came out just in time to snap everyone out of that illusion.
  • Webb · 1 year ago
    Tonight's going to be one of those watershed moments...just like Iowa. I'm already getting goosebumps...I encourage everyone to enjoy it with your family and friends.
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    bpm,


    I don't know how Obama is going to get himself out of that jacket. It will be a disaster. He'll spend all his time defending her against the GOP..not to mention Bill. This woman is trying to destroy Barack!
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    BPM


    Hasn't it been about trying to find a way to get rid of Obama or damage him severly before and since NC?



    Clinton on the ticket will accomplish that goal. He will be completely and irrevocably damaged; she will have made the point that his campaign was a "fairytale" when he succombs(sp) to the status quo and invites that immoral, unethical viper to join him.



    And what a slap in the fact that will be to many of his supporters!
  • Black American Princess · 1 year ago
    I am literally about to puke at the thought of an Obama/Clinton ticket. Seriously, like I feel fucking nauseous....
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    Hillary wants that VP spot like I want a severe case of herpes.


    This is another attempt to hurt him. He says no, her supporters get angry and have yet another reason to not support Obama.



    When will this bullshit end? When will the democratic party show this man some respect?



    Why is this entire process about Hillary when Barack is the real leader?



    It's time to get the stain that is the Clintons out of this process!
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    I don't understand the talk about "She has enough delegates to force herself on the ticket." No she doesn't. If she had that kind of juice, she'd be the nominee.


    Wouldn't the same delegates who vote Obama in be the same ones voting for VP? I can't imagine if Obama said "I want Tom Smith" to be my VP and Tom Smith is vetted, that Obama's delegates would then turn around and vote for Hillary as VP. If they did all of that then why not just skip the bullshit and vote her in as the nominee?
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    Some woman who supports McCain just congratulated Hillary Clinton for being the first woman to run for president.


    See how much the feminists respect black women.



    The moderator didn't call her on it either.
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    Her name is Fiorina
  • bpm · 1 year ago
    truthseeker, I wish him luck with that. Only hillbill finances can save Obama now or Monica part deux.


    Ms. Martin, it definitely is pretty sad regardless of how you look at it. Sad indeed.



    If an Obama-Clinton ticket gets in the White house it will be a co-presidency until she gets her LBJ moment. If she can force her way onto the ticket, it is clear before Nov that Obama is weak by comparison. It is a catch 22.



    Too bad Obama supporters weren't as keen as Hillary supporters too head this off at the pass. Those old women have been behind the scenes making it known that she must be on the ticket while blacks have been refusing to see the bigger picture. Now is the time to pray for a vetting that proves corruption against ethics, principles, or laws. Hillary is setting the agenda and she has apparently decided that she wants on the ticket. If she wasn't setting the agenda, the superdels would have ended this a month or two ago...bigger picture.
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    The feminists don't even respect their own history because Victoria Woodhull, a white woman, ran for President back in the 1800s with Frederick Douglass as her running mater.
  • Craig Hickman · 1 year ago
    I will cast my vote for Barack's choice for VP and his choice only.


    I expect a floor battle over the VP.
  • Craig Hickman · 1 year ago
    bpm, there are tons of delegates who support her who won't vote for her for VP if Obama doesn't choose her to be on the ticket.


    She's not going to be on the ticket unless Obama chooses her.



    Everybody needs to relax and wait and see.



    Tonight is about BARACK OBAMA, not Hillary Rodham Nixon.



    I'm not talking about her anymore today.



    Our nation has made history and we must celebrate it.
  • Webb · 1 year ago
    If you all go to NYTimes.com, they have the funniest gizmo that i've seen a while.


    It allows you to see how certain demographic groups voted during the primaries. Select "Black" and watch the blocks swing to the right.
  • Craig Hickman · 1 year ago
    Victoria Woodhull was nominated for President of the United States by the newly formed Equal Rights Party on May 10, 1872, at Apollo Hall, New York City. Her nomination was ratified at convention on June 6, 1872. Former slave Frederick Douglass was nominated for Vice President. Douglass never acknowledged this nomination. Instead, he served as a presidential elector in the United States Electoral College for the State of New York


    from wikipedia



    It says she wasn't old enough to be president when she ran.
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    Anon


    Thanks for that info, I didn't know that another woman had run for president.
  • bpm · 1 year ago
    That is nice Craig, but superdels will sail that ship and I'll bet you will find most making suggestions that Hillary is VP or would be the best choice, including the black ones. Obama will take her before it becomes a floor fight because he will lose it. Listen to the words of the superdels EVEN as they endorse Obama they speak of the dream ticket. She has to be vetted out now or she has to change her mind. She is in control. Have you noticed everyone saying how Obama has to work hard and appease her and give her whatever she wants. I actually listen to words and note actions. It is as simple as the superdels saying we will vote for you as nominee (you won the majority of pledged delegates) but her as VP because she has "earned it".
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    Craig Hickman:


    "Our nation has made history and we must celebrate it."



    I know, right! I keep waiting for the moment in time when the euphoric feelings will take over and we can realize this great accomplishment.
  • bpm · 1 year ago
    "there are tons of delegates who support her who won't vote for her for VP if Obama doesn't choose her to be on the ticket."


    Craig, how do you know this? How many exactly? Do you have a list of their names? Hillary pledged delegates were chosen because they are staunch supporters, not because they put Obama's preference before hers. Either way, superdels will be kingmakers. I'm amazed at your statement, really.
  • Ronnie B · 1 year ago
    Concur with Craig.


    Let's lower the blood pressure re Clinton as VP.



    Barack has ran one the best primary campaigns in presidential history. He's not about to ruin it by putting her on the ticket.
  • Webb · 1 year ago
    LoL...Barack Obama will choose whoever he wants to be his VP.


    And I don't think that any of us should be surprised if he just so happens to pick that ___ .



    But if she makes it look like she's forcing her way onto the ticket, then there's no way in HEEL that she's going to be on the ticket, because then that would surely make *O* look weak...she's a dayum fool if she thinks that's feasible.



    If she comes-off as Flegler described her, thinking that she's "Entitled," then it will be denied to her.



    That ___ is going to have to audition like every other else...she's going to have to prove that she can kiss some ___, drank the kool aid and really appreciate who the HNIC Is____
  • bpm · 1 year ago
    Hillary will be VP if she wants it unless the vetting process rules her out. Let's deal with reality. The head in the sand is what kept too many from being smart enough to do what the old women where doing over the last six weeks. Now she is in the cat bird seat.
  • bpm · 1 year ago
    "she's going to have to prove that she can kiss some ___, drank the kool aid and really appreciate who the HNIC Is____"


    Except he has been the one kissing her behind. Didn't someone on this very blog make a long post requesting he stop kissing her but and being so nice to him since she surely isn't doing the same toward him.
  • Angela · 1 year ago
    from the hill.com


    Lets enjoy today.



    "“June 3, 2008

    A Historic Day (Brent Budowsky)

    @ 11:26 am



    The nominee is chosen, the first African- American in history to be a major-party nominee for president, and a very real prospect of a presidency that could be of historic dimension for change for America.



    What a week. On Monday one of the great heroes of the Democratic Party underwent dangerous but successful surgery. On Tuesday the nomination of the Democratic Party is sealed. On Wednesday we remember Robert Kennedy, 40 years after he was taken from us much too soon.



    This is one of those moments that decades from now we will remember, people will talk about, historians will write about.



    Now we proceed to talk of unifying the Democratic Party, and discussion of the many high-quality leaders whom Barack Obama can choose from for the nomination for vice president.



    Now we proceed to one of the great debates in our generation, clashing worldviews that draw stark differences between John McCain and Barack Obama. Huge policy differences. Historic policy differences on national security, the war, economic policy and the future of the Supreme Court and justice in America.



    On the Democratic side, prepare for another surge of democracy with more than 2 million small donors, massive voter registration, and a nationwide revival of participation in politics that only began during the primaries.



    The moment for great debate and historic change is now at hand. It is a historic moment indeed."
  • Webb · 1 year ago
    I feel you BPM (to a certain extent)...You remember after Iowa when Obama said about Hillary, "She's likable...enough."


    When the history books are written, that one little quote will be responsible for this long-ass primary season stretching into FIVE months.



    Tonight would have happened FOUR Months ago. He lost NH by 3 points.



    Obama learned from his mistake and I as a student of political science appreciate the lesson: There is no racial demographic more capricious/whimsical than the caucasian female...the mistress of the house.



    So, whatever *O* has to do to "appease, concilliate" them short of selling his soul to the devil, I'll accept that. He will not be able to win the Presidency without them.



    He doesn't have to give Hillary the VP slot. He should choose whomever he wants.
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    Father Pfleger has been removed from duties for a couple of weeks for the comments made during his speech at Trinity.
  • RhondaCoca · 1 year ago
    You beat me to it Ms. Martin!


    Yea, they probably are going to replace him with some half dead priest who speaks Polish. They did that it my church and everyone stopped going. This country is a joke and they dont even know who Fr. Pfleger is or what he has done. WOW!!



    http://www.suntimes.com/lifestyles/religion/985091,pfleger060308.article





    I wanted to add in the discontent that I am slowing having for the black bloggers. Not JJP but a few others. They call themselves "progressive" my ass.
  • bpm · 1 year ago
    "He doesn't have to give Hillary the VP slot. He should choose whomever he wants."


    He doesn't have to; if she wants it she could have it. Sorry that the truth hurts. I won't vote for Obama if Clinton, Edwards, or Webb is on the ticket. Everyone else is free to fall in line and start making excuses and most people knew this was coming, except a few here I guess. Life and politics are very entertaining.
  • bpm · 1 year ago
    "Father Pfleger has been removed from duties for a couple of weeks for the comments made during his speech at Trinity."


    I'd be surprised if that is all that happens. That may just be the start. Too bad for Father Pfleger.
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    BPM


    You seem to be completely full of yourself today. That's okay.



    Let me tell you again, smirk all you want. My vote is my vote and I will do exactly what I choose regardless to what you think you know. They didn't teach you about that one in class did they? Ha. ha.



    I WILL NOT VOTE FOR A CLINTON TICKET PERIOD.



    Maxine Waters just switched her vote to Obama.
  • RhondaCoca · 1 year ago
    Maxine Waters switches to Obama!! She left the plantation. Hopefully, Stephanie Tubbs Jones will change her name to Stephanie "Tubman" Jones and get out too.
  • Melissa · 1 year ago
    "Too bad for Father Pfleger."


    Tell that to the congregation who depends on him for spritual support. All the young people whose lives he works effortlessly to improve.



    I will suggest that the church do a walk out.
  • RhondaCoca · 1 year ago
    I agree Melissa,


    Why didn't the church remove the priests who were molesting children the minute that they find out?????? Instead of couvering for them!



    Are you kidding me?



    I am Catholic. I will see if I could lobby to have it reversed. I will have to make calls.
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    Rhonda


    Tubbs - oh come on. We don't need that one. I reject her.
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    Rhonda:


    "Why didn't the church remove the priests who were molesting children the minute that they find out?????? Instead of couvering for them!"



    Okay! I hadn't even thought of that. I'm sure the folks in Chicago will take care of this.
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    20 delegates away from the nomination!
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    CNN reportion Obama has 2100 delegates1!!!
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    OMG 2102 delegates!!!!
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    16 delegates away!
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    I think 5 switched from Clinton!!!


    AHHHHHHHHHHH!
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    If he doesn't get anymore superdelegates before the vote tallies tonight he should still have enough to clinch when the votes are counted!!!!!
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    2105 delegates!! 13 to go!
  • RhondaCoca · 1 year ago
    Yea I saw that Truthseeker, Ms. Martin-


    Now thats exciting. I thought that I should give you guys a joke:





    I believe that I informed everyone here that my parents live in Chappaqua 2 1/2 blocks away from the Clintons.



    I am visiting them. Well, there are people on my block with signs saying "Concede, Hillary...Its Over". Ha.Ha...the police just removed two of them.



    I am suprised that all the media people out there refuse to capture it. Ha Ha Ha



    I might join them.
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    Rhonda


    Please get pictures!
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    12 to go!
  • Craig Hickman · 1 year ago
    Craig, how do you know this?


    ::



    I've just become a party insider.



    Imagine that.



    Obama will choose his VP and his VP will be ratified on the convention floor.



    Take it to the bank.
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    what is this "big bomb" that is going to drop about Michelle Obama tomorrow? F News is reporting.....anyone
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    Rhonda,


    Ha! Did you get any pics??



    2106!!!



    I'm so relieved he'll get his well-deserved moment in the spotlight. Tonight at the Exel centre.
  • RhondaCoca · 1 year ago
    Ms.Martin-


    I am too late=(



    I was running to join them and video tape it.



    However the police are out here now and they blocked the road. Sucks! They will probably come back! The news reported that she was home so everyone has been out here. I figured they were because the place has had tight security since last night.



    Many of her neighbors have proudly displayed OBAMA 08 signs in their yards. That has to hurt...she lost!
  • Craig Hickman · 1 year ago
    Pfleger fucked up. He even said that he doesn't usually talk politics from the pulpit but he went ahead and did it anyway.


    You do him no honor trying to paint him as a victim in this. He said he thought the cameras were off so he did his political satire from the pulpit.



    I don't disagree with what he said, I disagree with where he said it.



    He got busted. He's being reprimanded with a short suspension. It's really that simple.



    It's not the end of him or his church.
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    If you want to the real prelude to this very historic day turn to MSNBC
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  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    rikyrah


    Tim Russert just put it down in your very words. She had this, she had that, and on and on and on.



    She didn't do it.
  • Webb · 1 year ago
    wow, i was going to the gym, but I think I'm gonna have to keep my eyes on MSNBC and CNN.
  • Melissa · 1 year ago
    Craig-


    No, No, No.



    1. He was at Trinity during the discussion on Race. It was a Saturday and he was invited.



    2. How many times have the people on this here blog uttered the same thing as Pfleger, same thing but he is wrong?



    3. Why didn't the Catholic church stretch all this muscle when it came to protecting the innocence and chastity of molested children, young men and women.



    4. He got busted, he was intruded on cause the media has no place in the church, they need to stop stalking the church.



    5. Have anybody heard of the SOCIAL GOSPEL, can we be serious. It just shows how much people dont know about their own church traditions. Black churches have especially been preaching the social gospel in churches for what 200 years as a response to what has gone on in this country. Are you joking?



    If this country has a problem with the social gospel then they need to get rid of the Christian Right, period.



    Listen the inability for people to put the media in check for their distortion and double standards is so disgusting. Let them get away with it and they will do it again as they usually do!!



    Yea punish the people who help their communities.
  • RhondaCoca · 1 year ago
    I agree Melissa,


    He was at TUCC on a Saturday during a UCC church wide discussion on race...remember everyone? Or do we buy into the media's narrative.



    I know people dont care now that Obama has dropped them all but seriously, its hard for me to watch these church communties be destroyed. They are being destroyed. They are in my prayers.



    My issue as a Catholic is why didn't the church remove the Catholic priests who were sexual abusers. That is so ridiculous. My former pastor Fr. John Toner of my former church was stealing money from the church and was covered for 13 years due to his clout. Yet a man speaks about the history of white race privilege in America at a different church on a Saturday during a conversation about race where he was invited and he is suspended.





    Bullshit..as a Catholic...that is bullshit.



    My priest should get kicked out too. He often attends anti-abortion rallies and speaks openly about the government respecting the marriage between a man and a woman. Thats getting involved in politics. He does not do it from the pulpit in the church but he does it elsewhere. Pfleger was elsewhere at an event.



    I really cannot stress this enough.
  • Caribbean Lionesse · 1 year ago
    Just to add my two cents to this...


    It is a historic moment. Let us enjoy it tonight and face Hillary and her brood of vipers tomorrow. It is not about her. It is about Obama.



    Moreover, I'd like to extend a most heartfelt thanks and congrats congrats to my African-American bredren and sistren.



    To be honest, sometimes African-Americans don't make me terribly proud as a black, Caribbean woman. Some elements of African-American culture make me cringe because I know it's reflected on all of us who ended up on this side of the Atlantic.



    But this time y'all really made my heart swell with pride as a black person.



    Throughout this process, I was heartened and inspired to see how African-American voters came out in their numbers, registered in their numbers, campaigned like crazy, even damn well walked miles to the voting areas to ensure that Obama got this nomination.



    You truly showed the power of the black vote in the USA and every vote you cast (and will cast again in November) for Obama is appreciated by all of us black people around the world who can only follow this race but are not as fortunate to participate in it the way you can. We are backing Obama 100 per cent and we are PROUD of you.

    You're doing it for us and doing it well.
  • justice58 · 1 year ago
    The count is down to 11


    Woo hoo!
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    Obama's website says 10 to go!
  • justice58 · 1 year ago
    Alright MS.Martin! Sounds good to me!
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    Hey Justice


    Isn't this wonderful! I'm a watching the countdown in tears.
  • RhondaCoca · 1 year ago
    Ms. Martin-


    Please don't cry! If you cry then you wont be able to see him win the nomination. Your eyes will be all cloudy...if you were glasses it will be worse.



    I may go to a sports bar to celebrate. Grab a couple drinks=)



    Hillary may need a drink.



    As of midnight tonight, I am going to be nice to the women. She is a wonderful politican who has dedicated her life to public service.
  • RhondaCoca · 1 year ago
    Obama is just piling on the heavyweights today...wow...why are all the other superdelegates taking so long? What are they waiting for? We can wrap this up tonight.
  • justice58 · 1 year ago
    MS.Martin,


    You too!



    Earlier, I sent e-mails to MSNBC and asked them why are they making this historic night about Hillary Clinton! I told them they are trying to steal the thunder away from Barack and take away our joy & to please stop it!
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    Rhonda


    I'm not living in a party town right now so I have to celebrate here at home with my mother.



    Have an apple martini for me please.



    Hillary has dedicated her life to public service it's too bad that she chose to go the route she did when she could have made all Democrats happy.



    There was a point in time when I would have supported a joint ticket. Hopefully she will do something to redeem herself.
  • heartsandflowers · 1 year ago
    Ok about the Father Pfleger situation: he made a few valid points, but he was preaching to the choir. He made fun of her in an insulting way. He is supposed to be representative of God. His behavior did not reflect that. Now if it had been Chris Rock doing a routine that would have been different. If he was going to go there he should have been speaking to a white audience. It is they who need the education on white privilege not us!


    I would be VERY disappointed if Obama even thought about choosing Clinton as his VP. I'm not ready to make nice, I'm not ready to back down. Clinton has not earned the VP slot. She has to make serious amends to the entire Black community or we will reject her. And yes I would rethink my support of Obama if he picked her. I could not be sure he'd have my best interests in mind in being elected. It wouldn't vote for McCain but I would look into a 3rd party candidate.



    The Black vote is primarily the Black FEMALE vote statistically. I will not let my vote by taken for granted - even by Obama.
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    Justice


    I agree, earlier MSNBC was talking about Barack.



    There was a panel on CNN talking about the historic moment and whether or not she is trying to shadow it with the VP talk.



    Worry not Justice, once he hits that magic number, there will be nothing else to discuss for the night.
  • justice58 · 1 year ago
    Oh My God MS.Martin,


    Can you imagine what his family in Kenya are thinking! Can you imagine the feeling!



    Oh My God! Oh My God!
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    Justice


    People all over the world are watching in awe. Barack is very popular in other countries and they are watching.
  • RhondaCoca · 1 year ago
    Hearts and Flowers-


    I hear you but there is a man named Father Goode who the Catholic church hates too. He is mixed and he talks like Wright and Pfleger. He is a wonderful caring man. Please remember that Pfleger was speaking at an event on a Saturday about race. He was fellowshiping to the congregants in attendance. Yes its preaching to the choir but so what. I am partial towards him regardless. I just really like the man, period. He has spoken so much truth throughout the years and has done so much for the community. He got ousted like a black man what can I say.





    Justice58-



    You are very, very excited...wow.I am too.



    Ms.Martin-



    You are lucky that I like apple martinis!
  • RhondaCoca · 1 year ago
    Can someone slap Lou Dobbs?
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    7 delegates to go!
  • RhondaCoca · 1 year ago
    James Carville is about to cry!!




    7 more delegates!!Yay!
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    David Gergen turned coat. He has been saying that Obama needs Clinton all day.


    The pundits are trying to make it seems as though he is weak and can't win without her. I say bullshit. As someone said before, the voter registration drive will take care of this phantom Hillary problem.



    They are still trying to reduce him as a viable candidate even after he has won against all odds.
  • justice58 · 1 year ago
    "James Carville is about to cry!!


    -----------------------------------



    Let him! That space alien Beeeyotch!
  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    Just returned and am enjoying the comments here. Yes, THE news on Black radio is Father Pfleger. It's just wrong. I told you awhile ago that the Cardinal has just been looking for an excuse....St. Sabina is one of THE most successful Black Catholic parishes...IN AMERICA. Right on the South Side of Chicago, in ' The Hood'. Yes, Pfleger has done that. I have little respect for Cardinal George.
  • Ms.Martin · 1 year ago
    Justice


    He's still talking shit about the Obama camp pushing the "assasination" story.



    They are still trying to do a hit job on Obama.



    Donna Brazille just told Lou Dobbs he was coming from a political perspective. You tell em Donna, don't go for the fake shit.
  • justice58 · 1 year ago
    MS.Martin,


    Good for Donna! Lou Dobbs should stfu already! Barack got his number!



    Carville is pissed because his girl lost! Oh Well!



    Barack had to fight Hill, Bill & McCain! And he did it with class! Bam!
  • justice58 · 1 year ago
    Rhonda,


    I feel you about Lou Dobbs! I tell you, I can't take watching him! My nerves bad already!lol
  • RhondaCoca · 1 year ago
    6 delegates!!


    I could hear Hillary singing right now:



    "Tear down the mountains

    Yell, scream, and shout like you can say what you want

    Im not walking out

    Stop all the rivers, push, strike, and kill

    Im not gonna leave

    There's no way I will



    And I am telling you

    Im not going...

    There's no way I can ever, ever go

    No, no, no, no way"





    Haha...too late!





    I will however be nice to Hilla-monster as of 12:00am June 4, 2008=)
  • RhondaCoca · 1 year ago
    Has anyone seen Sunset Boulevard...there is this great video of a woman impersonating Hillary Clinton acting out the final scene in the movie....its classic!
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    5 delegates to go as per CNN. Axelrod says they're going to scvour this night. Yay!!!
  • RhondaCoca · 1 year ago
    Truthseeker-


    Wow yay!! I'm excited this is like sports or something.
  • BPM · 1 year ago
    "BPM


    You seem to be completely full of yourself today. That's okay.



    Let me tell you again, smirk all you want. My vote is my vote and I will do exactly what I choose regardless to what you think you know. They didn't teach you about that one in class did they? Ha. ha.



    I WILL NOT VOTE FOR A CLINTON TICKET PERIOD.



    Maxine Waters just switched her vote to Obama."

    -----------------------------



    Ms. Martin, project much? Why is it that you assume you are the focus of my posts as I recall that you've done this before. You apparently have a much higher opinion of yourself than I do of you. You are not the center of my world and my posts are not all about Ms. Martin. What class are you referring to exactly?



    All of this because I expressed my empathy for Father FPleger? You posted the info and I quoted it because I feel sorry for him. Other than that, unless you are webb, I wasn't aware that you and I were even having a discussion. Please get a grip.
  • RhondaCoca · 1 year ago
    Bpm,


    No fighting, no fighting=/
  • BPM · 1 year ago
    "I've just become a party insider."


    LOL. Being a state delegate to a national convention doesn't make one a party insider but I'm glad you will get to experience a convention. You don't have answers to my questions because... well you just don't and that I took to the bank before you replied.
  • RhondaCoca · 1 year ago
    4 delegates!
  • RhondaCoca · 1 year ago
    McCain is sooooo booringgggg...boring!! Thank god there was breaking news.


    Obama earns enough delegates to win democratic nomination!!!
  • TruthSeeker · 1 year ago
    Well, congratulations to you all.