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I'd also like to see her explore the "purchase" of Mexico after the war in the 1840's, and how Latinos and Chicanos view immigration from that perspective.
I wonder how Lou's Latina wife deals with him? Must be the cheddar, cause any other Latina would be breaking cans of whipass on him every night when he sets a foot in the door.
heh
Not sure how it became black folks only, because that wasn't the intent of the founders, for sho'.
And in California, you really see the dynamic of Blacks and Latinos hating on each other - not too much in Northern Calif, but in the Southland, and both races are so intent on claiming "turf" that they are blind to the game being run on them by the GOP (read: crackers).
I don't know why you think it's appropriate to use "crackers" in your post. If Conserv or any other conservative came on this blog and used "niggers" that would be deemed inappropriate. I think you need to consider how that might be offensive to some people and refrain from doing it. People come on this blog for a lot of reasons but to feel alienated is probably not one of them.
Bingo.
Then there is the assumption that Latinos are now the group in La-La Land, while blacks are on the outs. Huh...
That was back in the day. This is now.
What a shame.
Meanwhile, there are some sections of L.A. that are a joy to be in, because of our contributions.
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"Being involved, meeting people," said neighbor Laura Franklin, "it can just transform the place where you live." In fact, overall crime in the area is down nearly 30%. It's made LAPD officer Erid Mollinedo's job easier. "The changes have been dramatic. It's a lot safer. You have kids walking up and down the streets instead of prostitutes strolling the streets now."
That's nice, Officer Friendly. But what does that say about the LAPD's own efforts in FAIL?
I guess it depends where you live. I also guess I'm old, because that used to be said of blacks. But the rainbow has been taken over by gays, so I guess it's no big deal for the diaspora of 'spanning the spectrum' colorwise to be taken over by Latins/Hispanics/whatever. I'm old.
Can you still be latin if your last name is German? or Irish? (the answer out where I live is, that's what hyphens are for.)
Anyway, anybody read the comment over on Bossip several weeks ago from the Dominican chick who said she didn't have a problem with black people because 'they look just like me''? No? alright. Well, the avatar photo she used (and we all know how those aren't necessarily true) was almost as dark as Wesley Snipes. I don't live out on the East Coast. How bad is the 'I'm not black' among American Africans, Caribbeans and Latin-Americans? Or has that been vastly exaggerated?
Anybody else remember the USA Today news article about the lack of blacks in baseball........................ but if you looked at the photo, there was nothing BUT blacks, just blacks with hispanic instead of irish-scot and anglo surnames? Ok, that was just me.
Where I live, a surname is a powerful thing. Should that be enough? Should shared language? particularly if you don't know any Spanish? What happens to the Latin with the non-Spanish surname who 'looks' Indian? I know what happens out here to the Latin with the Spanish surname who's indistinguishable from 'white'.
"there is much being done in white establishment to ferment discord between Afro-Am's and Latino-Am's."
I don't believe that at all. I don't think whites care... except in the 'if she's pretty enough she can't possibly be completely African American'. But that's a universal, isn't it? But beyond that? whites don't care. At least out here, they have enough problems being a majority minority, and all that entails.
No, I believe any discord between African Americans and Latino Americans is strictly between African Americans and Latino Americans. No help needed from the 'outside'.
But I could be wrong.
Keep it real, Soledad.
I guess Latin as the basis for most of the Romance languages as well as for English isn't taught in schools any more.
Ignorance about their own history. And so it goes.
When I was Catholic, there were Spanish and English services at my church. There was a time when I took in a later service in Spanish. Thing is, I could follow the service with all those genuflections...it was essentially the same but in Spanish.
Which makes me wonder about Americans who claim that they can't follow English subtitles at foreign movies...can they read?
The first "Blacks In America" soured me, so I'm not wasting my time.
just awful.
Oh, I've got it: Soledad's mom is Estella; she is Afro-Cuban.
The term Afro-Cuban refers to Cubans of Sub Saharan African ancestry, and to historical or cultural elements in Cuba thought to emanate from this community. The term can refer to the combining of African and other cultural elements found in Cuban society
Fun fact about Soledad: She was commenting on the Louisiana JP story and noted that her parents were supposed to be the test case for what became Loving v. Virginia. Her parents couldn't get married in Maryland, where they were from I think, but her mom and dad didn't want to wait until the Supreme Court ruled in their favor to get married so they got married in DC instead where interracial marriage was legal. So, I think that's why she identifies as African-American and Latina: her family's history straddles both.
hmmmmmm
Cool background info on Soledad. Don't forget that the actual test-case cited by Justice Warren in Loving v. Virginia was Perez v. Sharp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perez_v._Sharp), a California case that recognized that interracial bans on marriage violated the Fourteenth Amendment of the Federal Constitution. It's a strange case of a Mexican woman and a Black man who were denied a marriage license because Perez's race was listed as white on the application (as Mexicans were required to do back in the 1940s).
http://www.mexconnect.com/articles/1...of-costa...
Blacks in Mexico - A Brief Overview
http://www.afromexico.com/brief.htm
african presence in mexico
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3LDePpz4e8
Someone had to school me about the Indian servant girl in Like Water for Chocolate being a figure of ridicule--it didn't translate for American audiences who laughed on cue at her Butterfly McQueen-type utterances. I was appalled.
Brazil was Portuguese, not Spanish. It was later part of a united empire with Portugal at one point, because after Napoleon stomped all over Europe, the Portuguese royal family decamped to Brazil to wait out his overthrow.
If you meant JJPolitics, don't assume anyone has even heard of bastadobbs. there seems to be a new campaign against Dobbs every week. I thought this was the latest campaign: http://www.dropdobbs.com/