Jack and Jill Politics - Latest Comments in CNN’s “Black In America” – Day 2, Open Thread

Re: CNN’s “Black In America” – Day 2, Open Thread

rawdawgbuffalo — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:21:00 -0000

i dint watch it
had no desire
My problem is that Our America aint black or white – it’s green besides I don’t listen to talking heads, folk here don’t get down like that I say work hard and don’t complain

Re: CNN’s “Black In America” – Day 2, Open Thread

smoothie — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:34:37 -0000

I wish i were making this up.. At the company picnic held in ___________ Va
it felt like a Klan Meeting. It was like being at a scavenger hunt looking for people of color.

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Nardwilly — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:28:16 -0000

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Re: CNN’s “Black In America” – Day 2, Open Thread

kenyaw — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:27:54 -0000

Nardwilly,

Please say that again. Hip-hop did not "create anything". Does some hip-hop GLORIFY negative sub-cultures?... Yes. But so does the rest of hollywood.
More importantly, if 80% of hip-hop music is consumed by whites then would not all of these negative situations be reversed? I mean hip-hop is so powerful right? It is the cause of destruction in the black community. So why does it not have the same effect in Japan, middle america, Duke Univ, or anywhere else where it is mass consummed?
Again, you said best, hip-hop is a reflection. Perfect.

Re: CNN’s “Black In America” – Day 2, Open Thread

soothsayer — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:05:31 -0000

Why did they not balance the the with a segment where they walk through someone's house and point out all of the things that were invented by black people.

Wouldn't that have been too much like right.

Re: CNN’s “Black In America” – Day 2, Open Thread

kenyaw — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:57:12 -0000

All of america and the world deserved a better documentary than the BIA special presented.
Why did they not balance the the with a segment where they walk through someone's house and point out all of the things that were invented by black people. They could have gone into a segment that explained how important education was to former enslaved people that they built colleges all through the south, midwest and the east coast.
They could have shown all of the successful black communities and entrepenuers. There is so much good that people don't see or discuss.
It could have been more balanced.

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NO ID — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:53:33 -0000

in my entire career...which has spanned twenty years, i have never, ever worked at a company with anywhere near that ratio. i have, in fact, had much more favorable ratios, but can't reveal exactly where since i'd like to keep my anonymity....but...wow....i'm sorry!

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NO ID — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:49:01 -0000

I'd say untreated mental illness as well, I think I read a stat where many in the prison population have mental illnesses.

Re: CNN’s “Black In America” – Day 2, Open Thread

Nate Wesley — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:44:39 -0000

While I can understand the criticisms the first two hours of the series, there is no doubt in my mind that the second two hours ("The Black Man") was much better. Its worst mistake was that the individual profiles were almost too good, and you wanted to see more of their stories.

I never had any notions that Black In America was going to provide much in the way of in depth discussion nor solutions. And while they didn't, I still think the effort was worth it , even while noting that the doc was mostly a summer ratings grab.

If you disagree, look at it this way: At least it wasn't "We Got to Do Better".

Re: CNN’s “Black In America” – Day 2, Open Thread

Nate Wesley — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:33:24 -0000

Google "Jon Goode". These promos/intros may come off as annoying, but the brother is not.

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jelana — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:33:56 -0000

Apparently, there were screenings to black audiences all across the country.
These groups are attempting to come up with solutions for implementation.

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Bronze Trinity — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:58:43 -0000

Yeah that would be really good. It would be way more informative to me to also know what different Black people think about other Black people. Like what men think about women, what teens think about their elders, what professionals think of blue collar workers, what students think about drop-outs etc. I think the whole special would have been better if it was about Black peoples opinions and attitudes rather than census items and statistics.

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GreenLadyHere13 — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:03:43 -0000

dmtyus311: I'm going to make a little trek to Wikipedia and to google and check her out.

Re: CNN’s “Black In America” – Day 2, Open Thread

GreenLadyHere13 — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:00:36 -0000

H&F: Co-signing!!! Well said - . . .and produce it by someone not from the group it's suppose to represent and claim it as legitimate. . ." That's the point that I have been trying to tease out - B4 I so gingerly stepped into a very humorous "BOARD ROOM MEETING" and thought that it was reality. :>) :>) [I think that I'm over it. :>)] But it is IMPORTANT to KNOW, WHO designed this production in order to be convinced of its AUTHENTICITY!!!
Thanks for your verbage! :>)
Oh, and CO-SIGN on the NV piece too. Ever notice how many "others" are wearing FUBU? :>) :>)

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CPL — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:55:38 -0000

True That. Because, in the end all Markos wants is REPRESENTATION, not PARTICIPATION from people of color; I don't care what he says - I'm looking at his ACTIONS. Why do we bloggers of color have to be the ones doing outreach to get people of color to Netroots Nation if they are serious about inclusion?

I think Gina Cooper took what we told her, put some major spin on it and went whining to Markos about the complaints that nearly 90% of bloggers I talked to at NN had - THE LACK OF DIVERSITY. Those caucuses don't count because the way they were scheduled, got the intended result - SEPARATION of every ethnicity and gender.

Markos may come from privilage, but Bill O' Reilly lets him know every day on that ragtag show of his that he considers Markos a dirty ethnic blogger - just like the rest of us. It's not our fault that Markos hasn't got the message yet, and wants to be ethnic when convenient, like his buddy, the Dark Sith. He's Black when convenient and goes privilege when there's something on the agenda he wants.

Re: CNN’s “Black In America” – Day 2, Open Thread

NO ID — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:47:02 -0000

FYI for anyone interested who didn't already see the special the whole thing is online at www.dimewars.com

Re: CNN’s “Black In America” – Day 2, Open Thread

NO ID — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:45:22 -0000

HOLLA!

Re: CNN’s “Black In America” – Day 2, Open Thread

Mod 2 — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:41:17 -0000

I resent the fact that Barack and Michelle have to be so perfect. If Barack graduated at the bottom of his class like McCain, they wouldn't stop talking about it.

Re: CNN’s “Black In America” – Day 2, Open Thread

Mod 2 — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:37:33 -0000

A white manager once told me, "there's a N@#$%^ in every black person, and you just gotta find it". Maybe that's what a lot of them think.

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dmtyus311 — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:44:06 -0000

She must be single and lonely. Or like old white men. Its gotta be one of the two.

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Nardwilly — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:44:05 -0000

That kind of Hip hop is interperting the world, not creating it. It is reflecting the society first. There is a Hip Hop that reflects while it precribes a better way.

Re: CNN’s “Black In America” – Day 2, Open Thread

Nardwilly — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:40:49 -0000

I know this is late but, I believe this is leftover from Jim Crow. Men were the primary actors in the economy of those times. Smart men were a threat to white men and would be beta or killed. Women were less of a threat. In order to save the lives of men Black folks sent girls, not boys, to school. There was no value in a smart Black man. A smart Black man was a danger to himself and his family.

The achievement gap for Black men is a complex problem that requires much effort from many people.

Re: CNN’s “Black In America” – Day 2, Open Thread

msmartin — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:35:21 -0000

Thanks for this comment, I agree. It is not intelligence that is derided it's the idea that being intelligent or educated brings you closer to whiteness. Another self-hate issue.

I too was irritated by the Superintendent. Many blacks believe they have to exclude themselves from other blacks to be respected for their achievements. But as I said upthread, we will always be suspect. There are a lot of blacks who are pretending for we are all but a generation or two (and sometimes not at all) removed from the problems deemed specific to blacks.

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Marvy — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:13:01 -0000

I too am over this documentary trying to act like Black folks view everything positive and productive as being white. When I did well in school, I was called a nerd or corny - no one accused me of trying to be White.

The school superintendent and his sons annoyed me because they seemed to buy into that White is right mentality. He wanted a family like the ones he saw on The Andy Griffith Show and My Three Sons? What, did he never see any Black families in real life that he could have emulated?

Re: CNN’s “Black In America” – Day 2, Open Thread

ronnieb — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:56:59 -0000

Morning~

I still didn't watch BIA. And from the tone of the posts last night, I didn't miss much. I'll say it again; the only reason that CNN--or any other mainstream media outlet--would spotlight Black people, is because there's a perception and expectation of dysfunction. And we all know that dysfunction outsells ordinary achievment ...

every day of the week.