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Nquest — Sat, 17 May 2008 00:45:00 -0000

Though I'd rather not call Sen. John McCain out of his name, this kind of blatant lying is McLame:

"Sen. Obama has said that he will withdraw no matter what the situation is on the ground and no matter what US military commanders advise."

That, "my friends", is Johnnie's Budlight moment. BS like that should only be dignified by: DUDE (rolleyes)

But, since there are legions of Kevin James in the world, I guess the best approach is to come up with snazzy YouTube with "DUDE" mixed in with Johnnie's lie and Obama's stump-line scratched in:

As Careful Getting Out, As We Were Careless Getting In

Funny thing about it, Obama used that line on CNN in the very same segment where he said McCain was "losing his bearing."

Bush should take note, too. In this same segment, Obama answered Wolf Blitzer's question, "What does Israel mean to you?"

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rikyrah — Fri, 16 May 2008 23:35:00 -0000

Sorry, Wolcott is from Vanity Fair.

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isonprize — Fri, 16 May 2008 23:25:00 -0000

US soldier refuses to serve in illegal Iraq war

Will he be called a traitor or a hero? Champion or Coward?

Wonder if it would be different if he was black....

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Diana — Fri, 16 May 2008 23:17:00 -0000

What if they gave a war and nobody came?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp...

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rikyrah — Fri, 16 May 2008 22:43:00 -0000

Wolcott on Obama:

Wolcott, on Obama’s response to Bush and McCain:

“…he firmly, deftly mummy-wrapped Bush and McCain together and dropped them off at the pier. It’s rather impressive to see a first-term senator chastise the President of the United States and the presumptive nominee of the Republican Party as if he were the headmaster and they the ones guilty of infractions unworthy of upperclassmen. That’s one of the benefits of having an oratorical voice that sounds tall–it automatically adds height to every utterance, allowing them to drop like acorns and make a nice thunk when they bounce off of the nearest thick skull.”

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heartsandflowers — Fri, 16 May 2008 22:01:00 -0000

Let's just prepare some sage for a nice cleansing ceremony after we all collectively neutralize the malicious influence of the Clintons and their enablers and the Republicans who support destruction/right wing policies/double standards.

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bpm — Fri, 16 May 2008 21:52:00 -0000

rikyrah, Cafferty called Huckabee an "idiot" for his Obama assasination joke. Then Jeff Toobin protested and lectured Jack about calling Huck an idiot for what was little more than a bad joke in Toobin's mind.

After Jeff finished chastising Cafferty for calling Huck an idiot and Wolf was trying to move on, Cafferty interrupted and said Wolf let me say this another way because of a poor choice of words, then Cafferty says "Huckabee is an idiot". LOL

Cafferty repeated his original opinion and Toobin got pissier and Cafferty basically gives him his backside to kiss because Cafferty thinks there is no excuse for what Huckabee said.

Then Lou and Wolf said they agreed with Toobin that Huck is not an idiot for making a little joke.

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honey01 — Fri, 16 May 2008 21:19:00 -0000

Yes, rhonda I heard earlier this afternoon. I tried not to think about it for awhile. I think I purposely even avoided cable news for a couple of hours. I just happen to just now be flicking through and see "breaking news" that Huckabee issues an apology to Obama. Then all of a sudden I start crying and am back here to get comfort from the JJ community. I am crying because I try to remain hopeful and not let fear overwhelm me. I will NOT let them win!

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rikyrah — Fri, 16 May 2008 20:41:00 -0000

hi rhonda,

yeah, the huckster's comments were definitely WTFish.

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rikyrah — Fri, 16 May 2008 20:40:00 -0000

bpm,

I heart Jack Cafferty too. What did he do today to earn it?

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RhondaCoca — Fri, 16 May 2008 19:44:00 -0000

Has anybody, I'm probably late, heard what Huckabee had to say about Obama, how bizarre and offensive?

From everything that I am seeing and hearing from Bush, McCain, Huckabee, the low attacks from the GOP in some states, it is clear to me that they are losing their collective minds.

The age of "republicanism" is finished...they are losing seats in congress. They know that and they are deseperate.

I havent been here in a while. I have been so busy will finals.

Hi everyone!!

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bpm — Fri, 16 May 2008 18:49:00 -0000

I heart Jack Cafferty. That's all.

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rikyrah — Fri, 16 May 2008 18:47:00 -0000

Clarke Reed: Solid south "over"

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rikyrah — Fri, 16 May 2008 18:45:00 -0000

In the South, a Force to Challenge the G.O.P.

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Ms.Martin — Fri, 16 May 2008 17:52:00 -0000

BPM

I heard somewhere that Edwards wouldn't be in Kentucky because we will lose and they don't want the MSM all over the Edwards couldn't win Kentucky - I think they plan on using him more for the general.

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bpm — Fri, 16 May 2008 17:40:00 -0000

Good grief. Edwards has been all over the TV and papers for the last three days. He is giving yet another interview in CNN's situation room in a few minutes. I wonder if he has anytime to take his special arse to Kentucky, considering he can find time to put his mug all over the media. Time for interviews but not much for getting on the trail I suppose.

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rikyrah — Fri, 16 May 2008 17:11:00 -0000

From CHUCK TODD:

*** Five big turning points: In the latest Atlantic Monthly, Josh Green profiles Obama’s record-breaking fundraising machine.

“[W]henever I think about the quarter billion dollars he has raised so far, the image that leaps to mind is Scrooge McDuck diving joyously into his piles of gold,” he writes.

But in our final installment of the big -- yet underappreciated -- turning points in the Obama-Clinton, we remind you about this: It was Clinton, not Obama, who had the fundraising edge heading into the 2008 contests.

At the end of last year, Clinton had nearly $38 million cash on hand. And although that amount included the $10 million transfer from her Senate campaign account, as well as lots of money that could only be used in the general election, it eclipsed Obama’s $18.6 in the bank.

But once we entered the New Year, the rest was history: Obama went on to raise a million (or more) a day, while Clinton, although still raising plenty of money, ran out of cash and is now more than $20 million in debt.

This turning point -- when Clinton went from money leader to being essentially broke -- can’t be overstated.

And it’s also worth noting that this is the second-straight cycle that the candidate who raised the most money heading into the nominating contests (Howard Dean won that honor in ’03) will probably not be the nominee.

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bpm — Fri, 16 May 2008 16:28:00 -0000

OMG, I just saw the "Obamacan" commercial sponsored by MoveOn played on CNN (not as a part of one of their programs). Not even 2 minutes ago.

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Sepia — Fri, 16 May 2008 16:24:00 -0000

@ Craig --

"That said, I'm not so sure what the big deal is. Palestinians are people with aspirations just like Iraqis, Swedes, and Americans. If the Palestinian people are rooting for Obama, there is nothing sinister or dangerous in that desire."

ITA! I think those have a problem with this are those who choose to paint all Palestinians with the Terrorist Brush that the MSM has given to us to use. How sad that some black people, like D., are choosing to racially/ethnically stereotype people of color.

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Nquest — Fri, 16 May 2008 15:41:00 -0000

D,

You want to tell me the value of some list generated by the US gov't? Was not the ANC on one of them lists?

That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about -- i.e. the lack of credibility and subjectiveness. And to top it off, mix a little HYPOCRISY in the middle.

Notice how you had no comment about our shifted N. Korea stance amongst other substantive issues with your posts/questions.

You asked if this has EVER happened before... I supplied a link. Now your response?

Also, what do you have to say about the elected representatives of the Palestinian people you wanted to mention...

What's up with the whole concept of Guilt By Endorsement Association and exactly what would be wrong with having talks with the ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE?

People still deal with us and we've bombed the fvcked out of untold numbers of INNOCENT IRAQI PEOPLE.

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rikyrah — Fri, 16 May 2008 15:31:00 -0000

Another knotch in the Obama might be being attacked because his appeal to Evangelicals memo:

The Evangelical Swing Vote

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TruthSeeker — Fri, 16 May 2008 15:22:00 -0000

Brain Dump

I don't know what it is about John Edwards exactly. I know he is infected with the old politics virus and I believe that he thinks Obama is a "pussy". Maybe John has issues with his masculinity. That reptilian brained Anne Coulter seemed to sense it, and proceeded to call him gay.

Barack is in touch with his feminine side. He is always touching. John is not happy with Obama touching him on stage...all those "gay" accusations from Ann swirling in his head. Maybe she got to him.

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rikyrah — Fri, 16 May 2008 15:05:00 -0000

Obama's Super Show Stoppers

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TruthSeeker — Fri, 16 May 2008 14:57:00 -0000

I just went to the Hillary website and they have a link asking supporters to send messages to the DNC to count MI & FL. So, I clicked on the link to give my two cents:

Florida and Michigan should not count in any way that would reward the state legislature for breaking the rules.

They should not count in any way that would de-fraud the millions of voters who did not go out to vote, because they were assured it was not a valid election.'

FL & MI should not count in any way that usurps the DNC's authority and makes it impossible for the DNC to enforce the rules in the future.

They should not count in any way that drastically alters the outcome of the Primaries to benefit one candidate over another. Nor should it count in any way that rewards Senator Clinton for breaking her written and verbal agreement that these elections would not count.

So, they require an email address - I faked one. Then when I clicked submit, it took me directly to a fundraising page...LOL. Hillary is a piece of work I tell ya.

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D. — Fri, 16 May 2008 14:50:00 -0000

Truth,
Based on what?