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McCain is lesser of 3 evils.
One pollster actually has Obama up by 2 pts over Clinton in PA.
Lets hope this trend keeps going this way!
Poll Date Sample Clinton Obama Spread
RCP Average 03/24 - 04/01 - 48.3 42.3 Clinton +6.0
PPP (D) 03/31 - 04/01 1224 LV 43 45 Obama +2.0
Rasmussen 03/31 - 03/31 730 LV 47 42 Clinton +5.0
SurveyUSA 03/29 - 03/31 588 LV 53 41 Clinton +12.0
Quinnipiac 03/24 - 03/31 1549 LV 50 41 Clinton +9.0
Hillary has huge advantages in that her name recognition is already established and is married to an ex President who helps her everyday on the campaign trail.
Yet people like Joe Scarborough keeps saying that Obama needs to win something he isn't expected to win. Everything he has won he wasn't expected to win from day one!!!! Scarborough could just as well say Clinton should stop losing those huge point spreads she starts out with.
Time to send another message.
I know that Hillary Clinton has done a lot to undermine the importance of naming sexism. True Obama has not played any race card and Clinton has played the whole deck... Still I have to say it is distasteful to use language that undermines WOMEN (yes, she's one woman.) There are millions others, like me, who are downright disrespected when we toss around sexist language like BITCH. I know its a common term, but it is STILL one that perpetuates an attitude about women, and among others words, reinforces real sexism in our country.
I encourage all of us to dig deeper and find language that does NOT perpetuate and reinforce her claims.
More fodder for the Republican attacks against Hillary in the general election. Everyone needs to read this and just think of what he says Hillary is responsible for.
"New Scathing Report Claims Hillary’s Bosnia Lies Go Much Deeper
April 1, 2008 — disembedded
Christopher Hitchens has published a momentous, scathing account of Hillary Clinton’s deceitful story about her 1996 trip to Bosnia. It goes much deeper than just her lying about the visit. Hitchens reveals that in 1992, Bill Clinton had promised to fight against the genocide that was occurring in Bosnia. Hitchens then asks, “What had happened to the 1992 promise, four years earlier, that genocide in Bosnia would be opposed by a Clinton administration?” It was never kept. Further, according to Hitchens, “The key factor in Bill’s policy reversal was Hillary, who was said to have ‘deep misgivings’ and viewed the situation as ‘a Vietnam that would compromise health-care reform.’ The United States took no further action in Bosnia, and the ethnic cleansing by the Serbs was to continue for four more years, resulting in the deaths of more than 250,000 people.” Hitchens concludes his commentary with these searing comments:
“It’s hardly necessary for me to point out that the United States did not receive national health care in return for its acquiescence in the murder of tens of thousands of European civilians. But perhaps that is the least of it. Were I to be asked if Sen. Clinton has ever lost any sleep over those heaps of casualties, I have the distinct feeling that I could guess the answer. She has no tears for anyone but herself. In the end, and over her strenuous objections, the United States and its allies did rescue our honor and did put an end to Slobodan Milosevic and his state-supported terrorism. Yet instead of preserving a polite reticence about this, or at least an appropriate reserve, Sen. Clinton now has the obscene urge to claim the raped and slaughtered people of Bosnia as if their misery and death were somehow to be credited to her account! Words begin to fail one at this point. Is there no such thing as shame? Is there no decency at last? Let the memory of the truth, and the exposure of the lie, at least make us resolve that no Clinton ever sees the inside of the White House again.”
Wyoming Governor and former Clintonite endorses Barack Obama.
Another superdelegate goes on record for Obama.
With all DUE respect, Jack, what transition? This is the same Bill Clinton who had his long-time mentor and friend, William Fulbright, a life-long segregationist, practically chained to his hip when he ran for President and subsequently honored with a presidential metal of freedom. The same Bill Clinton who posed in front of a Black chain gang for southern newspapers. The same Bill Clinton who raced back to Arkansas to oversee the execution of a mentally retarded Black man.
Why are you surprised by his current campaign tactics? Bill Clinton hasn't changed. Black folks were just blinded to reality.
Hitchens wrote a column last week trashing Senator Obama and Reverend Wright, adding to the collective chorus that Reverend Wright was preaching hate speech for 20 years and that Senator Obama either ignored it or secretly embraced it.
“Obama will bring scandal and disappointment to be sure,”
Uh-huh...that's what "haters" are hoping for anyway.
“but it will be different scandal and new disappointments. I prefer that over the sniveling Clintons any day. McCain is lesser of 3 evils.”
LOL!_now THAT’S funny!
I trust most Intelligent, sounded-minded folk are on to the “lesser of evils” _bullsh*t thinking.
As if voting for “Evil” in a so-called “lesser” degree will get you anything but “EVIL”_?!
Truthiz, a vote for Hillary is NO different than a vote for George W. McCain.
No thanks. My days of voting for “EVIL” under any circumstance are over!!!
allow me to "clarify" my statement.
i never paid as much attention to bill c as i have now. looking back, he was an OK president. Not the hero he's often lauded as. Not evil. He was probably "pretty good."
i do think there's a public transition where he flares up like this in front of dem delegates. of course he's shown a propensity to abandon supporters and throw folks under the bus, but the public red-faced nastiness feels new to me.
i could be wrong, but i do see a transition, if not in him, definitely in his public perception. he was untouchable, and now dems are publicly dissing him for his ranting, raving, destructive behavior.
THAT is a transition. Bill used to clear a room in a good way. I have a feeling it won't be like that after this is all over.
Only in your dreams.
Just as a polite FYI, Clinton and her supporters are using the word "Bitch" on the campaign trail now, reclaiming the word, so to speak, picking up on Tina Fey's "Bitch is the new black" ridiculousness.
"Sometimes, Dolores, being a bitch is the only thing a woman has to hold onto." - Dolores Claibourne
Hillary Rodham Nixon is taking that to another level.
In this connotation, that's not sexist at all. It's real.
Hitchens is an atheist, so I'm not surprised that he would respond that way to Wright's association with Barack. Hitchens was on Real Time and admitted that he was sort of going "queer" for Obama. He thought he had a great voice and said some very nice things of Obama in comparison to Hillary. In these clips, he explains why he doesn't like the religious aspect. I think he may admire Barack the man while being disappointed in Barack's religious beliefs.
Here's the YouTube clip if anyone's interested. The pertinent section is at the last couple minutes of part 4 and overlaps into the first few minutes of part 5:
Part4
Part5
The Clinton's have a lot of blood on their hands. Bill was Governor of Arkansas in the 80's and is connected with a blood scandal where tens of thousands of people were infected with HIV & Hep-C here in Canada and several other countries. The blood was drawn from visibly ill prisoners in the Arkansas prison system. While Clinton is not wholly responsible, it's interesting to see his name pop up in the unlikeliness places. It really is a small world after all, isn't it?
here's a site with compilation of news stories over the years:
Clinton's blood
I can't tell how many times I've gotten into arguments with neo-con whackos who think Universal Health care is Socialism or Communism. They lie to Americans and say Canadians have to line up for health care, that it was like 3rd world conditions yada yada..
Canadians pay for Health Care via taxes. We choose our doctors and no money changes hands.
Sicko, did a lot to dispel some of these lies that have been used to keep Americans enslaved. Then, a few weeks ago 60 Minutes did a piece on Remote Area Medical which was eye-opening...as they were doing their charity work in America and there were people who drove from other states just to be seen by a doctor. Here's the YouTube clip for anyone who missed it:
Remote Area Medical on 60 Minutes
I have no evidence whatsoever for either. But Bill is not the same man he used to be, slick wise. He is off his game.
Hitchens is an athiest. Anything religious is red meat to him. He's too ignorant to even try and understand Jeremiah Wright. But, this is the man, after all, who made his reputation TEARING DOWN MOTHER THERESA.
Yeah, you read right.
PS- There is a good article online at The New Yorker. They sent their music person to write the story about Trinity UCC...now, before you go off, it's actually a pretty decent article. The Brotha (I believe he's Black), actually got the nuances and history behind Black Liberation Theology, and Rev. Wright. It was a very fair piece.
Jack,
You are not wrong. Watching Lou Dobbs tonight, and the woman he had on the panel, she's a right-winger, said this was the campaign that turned Bill Clinton into a caricature. I was like, damn, she's on spot.
Yes, Hitchens asks some hard questions about Mother Theresa. I learned growing up that she was a saint..it was accepted wisdom. This documentary offers a different perspective. Hitchens questions Mother Theresa and her relation to the Catholic church. He questions the anti-contraception and abortion ideology pushed by Catholicism in poor nations and it's complicity with murderous dictators. He seems to think Mother Theresa was used by the religious organization to further it's economy of death.
It seems suffering is a kind of economy on which religion is dependent. It seems religious "leaders" have made peace with the economy from which they benefit.
Rev. Wright and his colleagues showed up at the White House breakfast to give Bill a cachet of piety during his impeachment. I do not think a single person brought up the subject of Rwanda or Bosnia while there. Who are these religious leaders, really? Are they beyond reproach?
Hitchens often is sweatily arrogant. If you can overcome this and the ominous, devilish lighting, what he says is thought-provoking:
Hell's Angel p1
Hell's Angel p2
Hell's Angel p3