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There's more to marriage than love.  How many women back in the day got married, not because of a man himself, but because of the promise of having a baby of their own?  Or because they wanted that man's status?  The man could do whatever he wanted as long as at the end of the day she was the Official Girl.  She'd play the 'saint/Jackie' role.<br><br>Or she'd play the Mrs. Strom Thurmond/Daughter of Gotti role (getting pregnant by other guys, while the husband got to pretend his virility was still 'all that').  She would do whatever she wanted, too, as long as at the end of the day she kept up her end of the 'You're My Official Man' bargain.<br><br>Humans are not monogamous by nature.  It takes work.  A lot of work.  God bless everyone who works at it (those who haven't been tempted by opportunity don't count).", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_02:09:05", "killed": false, "user_key": "Amaya", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12183892, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12200965": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Succinctly put, and I 100% concur!", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_12:14:20", "killed": false, "user_key": "spirit_55z", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12195565, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12184073": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "<i>To quote Chris Rock, \"a man is only as faithful as his options.\"   Men cheat bc they can tell a woman straight up that they are married and that triflin heffa won't care. </i><br><br>But you know what?  As a woman, I have to believe that the man I am with has some ability to reason.     The 'triflin' heifer won't care, but shouldn't HE?  Walk away from the poontang.  Just walk away.  In fact, if it was tempting, and your that horny, take it home to your woman.  She might just surprise you in ways you never knew...<br><br>If I'm with a grown man, I can't be chained to him every second of the day to make sure he doesn't cheat.  That is what commitment is <i>supposed</i> to be about.   And who wants to live like that anyway?  I know I don't.   <br><br>I'm starting to agree (gasp,  gasp) with Michael Baisden on this one.  Why not just tell your woman (or man) that you want to step out.  If that's cool, then you'll have an 'open relationship' --   if it ain't cool, you'll deal with the consequences.    Just be honest about it.   <br><br>And if you can't commit, DON'T GET MARRIED.<br><br>Damn.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_21:59:30", "killed": false, "user_key": "isonprize", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12183802, "depth": 1, "points": 4, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12185622": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Most likely because men are not romantic fools when it comes to power like females are. Men are not drawn to power, they are drawn to BEING powerful.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_22:53:50", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12183676, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12201497": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "YMMV??", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_12:31:50", "killed": false, "user_key": "isonprize", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12201111, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12187163": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"a lasting covenant between a man and a woman can be a vehicle for the nurture and protection of each other, the one reliable shelter in an uncaring world \u2014 or it can be a matchless tool for the infliction of suffering on the people you supposedly love above all others, most of all on your children.\"<br><br><br>O so very true!<br><br>When I say this folks want to bite my head off and call me judgmental, but it is the honest to God's truth:<br><br>\"... on every single significant outcome related to short-term well-being and long-term success, children from intact, two-parent families outperform those from single-parent households. Longevity, drug abuse, school performance and dropout rates, teen pregnancy, criminal behavior and incarceration \u2014 if you can measure it, a sociologist has; and in all cases, the kids living with both parents drastically outperform the others.<br><br>Few things hamper a child as much as not having a father at home. \"As a feminist, I didn't want to believe it,\" says Maria Kefalas, a sociologist who studies marriage and family issues and co-authored a seminal book on low-income mothers called Promises I Can Keep: Why Poor Women Put Motherhood Before Marriage. \"Women always tell me, 'I can be a mother and a father to a child,' but it's not true.\" Growing up without a father has a deep psychological effect on a child. \"The mom may not need that man,\" Kefalas says, \"but her children still do.\"<br><br><br>\"Children who grow up in a household with only one biological parent,\" she found, \"are worse off, on average, than children who grow up in a household with both of their biological parents, regardless of the parents' race or educational background.\"", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_00:13:52", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12186399, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12197927": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I think you're right, with this, Myth. I've heard the gamut of explanations, ranging from dudes who did it because they could and men who did it because they thought they had no other option and offer sob stories about how controlling and uncaring their wives/significant other can be. I don't buy the latter; if it's not working, put your best foot forward to fix it and if that doesn't help leave.<br><br>I realize that's way more easily said than done but you know what? Relationships are not easy and maybe if we stop thinking they're supposed to be and started treating them like they deserve some attention and some effort, folks would cheat less.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_11:25:13", "killed": false, "user_key": "ASmith", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12193395, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12196398": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Okay, but doesn't that still give the person doing the cheating a free pass?    Still sounds like an excuse to me.   <br><br> If commitment is the expectation, then the person doing the cheating, no matter the reason  <i>(Greed or co-dependency, ennui or naivete, hyper religious loyalty--the reasons are many for enabling or tolerating this stuff.)</i>  is still responsible for their own actions.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_10:21:53", "killed": false, "user_key": "isonprize", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 7, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12195997, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12184114": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Can we also talk about how long we live today might affect/effect marriage.   In 1950 the life expectancy in the U.S. was 68 and I think it is late 80s now.   How long should a person be romantically enthralled with one person?   Is there a point when after a certain amount of years either spouse just gets bored and then gets \"sparked\" to use Gov. Sanford's term???", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_22:01:32", "killed": false, "user_key": "Angelar", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12185655": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "She became a woman the day she could reproduce. The law says she was legal at 18 and no woman is a girl at twenty. she might be dumb and unexposed but she is no little girl.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_22:55:06", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12183425, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12204103": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "all of a sudden you don't have values cos you cheated? Lets stop being emotional or sanctimonious bout this. I am guessing you mean values from a religious standpoint right? Are you above any sin? I sincerely doubt that. Lets not forget that there is no hierarchy of sin. If you do something that is the total antithesis of being a christian/Muslim, be it stealing a pair of hair clips from the beauty supply store or what have you, you are still lacking in values...which puts you in the same category as the dude who is cheating.<br>If you have never talked smack bout someone else, spread rumors, lusted after your friend's man blah blah blah..i could go on...cast the first stone.Hell..if you have ever had premarital sex, don't even comment.<br>In the case of Sanford, my issue with him isn't that he cheated. Its the fact that he lied to his constituents, left a power vacuum in his office and nobody could locate him. Plus, he used state fund to aid his cheating. That man's personal life is none of my business. I am far from perfect. And lets not make infidelity the numero uno problem afflicting the sexes.<br>We need to ask ourselves the reasons why a lot of people are getting married. <br>And your last paragraph...\"Men can't do anything that women won't let them do (period).\". That is on some other type of bull! Excuse my french. You don't own this man/woman. If he wants to go out there and cheat he will. You can not stop a man from cheating.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_13:21:23", "killed": false, "user_key": "TAG60", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12193395, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12198481": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Chris,<br>what you said here is WAY  different from:<br><br> <i>We cheat NOT because we can. We cheat because our spouses/partners/f-buddies let us.</i><br><br>Just sayin'...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_11:46:03", "killed": false, "user_key": "isonprize", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12198337, "depth": 6, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12184146": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I might ask if you are married or have been married and maybe you already know the answer to your question.   People marry for many different reasons...nothing is one answer for anyone so let us not pretend that silliness.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_22:02:52", "killed": false, "user_key": "Angelar", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 4, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12183892, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12198501": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Fine. Then we agree to disagree. No need to use obscenities--so what are you? ;-)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_11:46:51", "killed": false, "user_key": "ChrisChambers", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12198340, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12187242": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "It is not just these days that infidelity can mean death or disease. Ever heard of Syphilis? That has been around for hundreds of years.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_00:18:41", "killed": false, "user_key": "malletgirl02", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12185567, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12205927": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "<i>The quarterback, renowned in Nashville for his extensive work in the community, rented the condo overlooking the Titans stadium with sporting goods dealer Wayne Neeley, <b>who called McNair's best friend after seeing the bodies sprawled on a couch.</b></i><br><br>Forgive me if this has been discussed (first day back from vacay), but shouldn't have 911 been the first number dialed?<br><br>I just feel so bad for the family.  Not only do they have to live with the loss, but now they'll have to endure a lifetime of whispering and gossip behind their backs.  McNair certainly didn't deserve to die but it shouldn't be overlooked that he has brought a measure of undeserved disgrace to his wife and children.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_14:00:29", "killed": false, "user_key": "MsKitty", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12204713, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12193395": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I think this issue may be more easily pinpointed if it were reversed. What are the qualitied of those limited number of men who DO NOT cheat. The reasons men do cheat are as long as you can list with none being justifiably acceptable.<br>The men I know who DO NOT cheat: have values and take them seriously; came from \"function\" upbringing in families; they consciously make the choice not to cheat; are committed types of human beings to everything in life including vows<br><br><br>Men who cheat do so because they can,  generally because they have no values that  matter to them that keep them from cheating. Often that firm foundation they were brought up in falters; flesh is weak. Women make it easy for men to cheat out of their desperation to have someone, anyone. Men can't do anything that women won't let them do (period).", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_07:35:54", "killed": false, "user_key": "Mythe", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 2, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12195444": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Not necessarily.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_09:41:53", "killed": false, "user_key": "eclecticbrotha", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 13, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12195124, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12186230": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": ".", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_23:22:26", "killed": false, "user_key": "d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12185655, "depth": 2, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12183676": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I think one of the reasons people cheat is the lack of intimacy in their marriages, and I don't mean just sex. Emotional intimacy. I have read many articles that suggest many extra-marital relations occur with work colleagues because people find it easy to start discussing problems they're having with a sympathetic co-worker and if its easier to connect emotionally with that person than the spouse, then the relationship can turn sexual. <br><br>Sometimes it is related to sex, if you can't articulate what you like or if you do your spouse isn't receptive. It's easier to give into temptation when someone else is offering it. Maybe the woman taking the two hour lunch has to be all conservative at home, but she can get her freak on during lunch.<br><br>I think the more powerful a man (fame, money, political status), the more women are attracted to him, regardless of how he looks (see flava flav). That is an incredible ego boost, and men that powerful usually have enormous egos already. When women are throwing their panties literally and figuratively at you daily, you have to be real disciplined to resist.<br><br>I don't think powerful women are an aphrodisiac as powerful men are.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_21:40:27", "killed": false, "user_key": "caribgirl", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12186218": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "If you decide that you want to fool around, then it's obvious you don't want to be married...IF fidelity is one of the things your mate expects. IF they don't expect it, then fine. 'back in the day', the worst thing a woman could expect from her husband when he cheated was the humiliation of possibly getting his ho PREGNANT. <br><br>now, the worst thing he can do is bring something home that won't humiliate you, it can KILL you. <br><br>Black women, in non-high risk groups, receive HIV through HETEROSEXUAL SEX....from a man that they believe they can trust. It's life or death out there.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_23:21:50", "killed": false, "user_key": "rikyrah", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": true, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 9, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12185879, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12184466": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "LOL, really?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_22:17:03", "killed": false, "user_key": "Muzikal203", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12182849, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12184706": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "The culture is the U.S. which is <i>SUPPOSED</i> to be monogomous...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_22:25:03", "killed": false, "user_key": "isonprize", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12184571, "depth": 4, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12195459": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Isn't that a cop out?   Does a man let 'his woman' flirt with another man when he's out of town on business?  Or does she do it because she wants to?<br><br>Does a wife let her husband have sex with the secretary at lunch?   Or does do it because he wants to?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_09:42:44", "killed": false, "user_key": "isonprize", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12195124, "depth": 1, "points": 2, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12186760": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I think one of the biggest mistakes folks are making is in thinking that sex is the basis of marriage. It isn't. There are so many other variables to marriage. Infidelity is just one thing that can challenge the marriage. <br><br>No couple stays married for sex. NONE.  And many, many, many married people do not get divorced based on infidelity.<br><br>If sex is all marriage means to someone, then they truly did not make a committment nor do they understand the marital vows.<br><br>There is no line that says 'until sex do us part'", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_23:49:10", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12186564, "depth": 4, "points": 2, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12195978": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "No.  Clooney is an example, but right now, the only example.<br><br>That's one reason why there were men's clubs.  They weren't just for the married and powerful guys.  There were suites there for men who had no 'residence,' with maid service and room service.<br><br>I had a great uncle who was a gambler, traveled on the racehorse circuit helping to keep horses (old days, folks), and lived alone, although he wasn't completely without female companionship.  He just never got married or had a long-term relationship with a woman.  Remembering hard times had something to do with it as well.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_10:05:01", "killed": false, "user_key": "blksista", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12195589, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12202690": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I'd divide cheaters within two broad categories: ego and circumstance.<br><br>Ego is pretty self-explanatory, selfish and draws little to no sympathy: It was done because the person thought they could get away with it (you're still married if you're out of town on business); to prove virility and/or power; to re-live youth/past glory; or out of a feeling of finally experiencing what one \"missed out on\" when s/he was younger. <br><br>Cheating because of circumstance is another animal altogether. Without a doubt, It's still selfish. The person who cheated still exercised free will when doing so. But it's different because of motive, or lack thereof initially. Perhaps there was a rough spot in the marriage. You could grow apart. You could feel as if the other spouse won't grow up. A spouse can be working a \"double shift\"--at work and again at home. Perhaps it was finances--and I'm sorry, you could throw it down like \"Sunshine\" but if the finances aren't in order or suddenly threatened (especially if the other spouse is the culprit) it doesn't matter. The spouse could have a hard time finding a job and decide to stop looking altogether. It could be illness. It could be caretaking of a parent or elder. The death of that parent or elder. It could be child rearing. Trying to raise emotionally difficult children or severely disabled ones. One that's facing serious disease. Or the death of a child after that disease, or in an accident. <br><br>It could be a 1000 reasons why when life happens. And you're not looking for an affair--you're looking for relief. A sympathetic ear, a shoulder to cry on. But like in the movie, \"When Harry Met Sally,\" that shoulder to cry on can *quickly* turn into something else entirely, especially when you're blind and/or in denial to the danger around the bend. <br><br>Look, there are NO perfect marriages because we are not perfect people. There will ALWAYS be stress of some sort. Most of the time it's not as cut and dried as \"if you wanna fuck different people, then don't get married.\" Most people don't set out to destroy their marriages. There are lots and lots of shades of gray, and they get caught up. We can ALL get caught up, too (and sometimes, it seems the most self-righteous/prideful are the very ones who get surprised). <br><br>What makes the difference is 1) RECOGNIZING and BELIEVING that \"this too, can happen to you\" and 2) when life happens, *HOW* we handle the stress and keep balance and equilibrium in the marriage. <br><br>A former pastor at my hometown church used to say (in so many words): \"If you haven't had a trial or tribulations--just keep livin'.\" As a kid, I didn't get it. <br><br>As an adult, I most certainly do.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_12:59:09", "killed": false, "user_key": "APeach", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 2, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12187793": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I believe there are lots of people who want to be married but do not want to be without sex or romance- which is the case for MANY marriages (kids, stress, money, unresolved relationship baggage.) <br><br>Death also can mean two bullets to the side of the head that is if you F with the wrong chick...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_01:00:37", "killed": false, "user_key": "evita", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12185567, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12201111": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Heh. It's pretty simple.<br><br>Old school separation is done to maintain benefits (by remaining legally married) and maintain sanity (self-explanatory). That way, everyone can save face, have some sort of financial safety net, and have some semblance of peace.<br><br>I may not agree with it, but I can see that there's a certain logic to it. YMMV.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_12:19:10", "killed": false, "user_key": "APeach", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12184913, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12185752": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "All those comments about whether he was satisfied in the marriage or whether she was having sex with him are nothing but Hogwash.  A woman is not responsible for a man cheating. Those are solely his actions and he is the only one responsible for what he does, not her.<br><br>Just like if someone hits you and you hit them back. You are responsible for hitting them, can't no body make you hit somebody...it is an act of wilful volition.  <br><br>I wish people would just quit saying that because it is irrational.<br><br>As far as the 'cheaper to keep her goes'  and not wanting to give up half in divorce court well...I hope that last orgasm with Kazemi was great, cause Mechelle..got it ALL now.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_22:59:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12183411, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12186564": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "But we were talking earlier about why people decided to get married and cultural issues.   I don't believe for one minute that young people who give into their family and cultural issues decide then and there whether they are going to \"fool around.\"  <br><br>I relate to your concerns.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_23:39:29", "killed": false, "user_key": "Angelar", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12186218, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12195997": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I mean it happens because  our better halfs/etc. often enbale us, directly, indirectly. Greed or co-dependency, ennui or naivete, hyper religious loyalty--the reasons are many for enabling or tolerating this stuff. Even encouraging it.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_10:05:48", "killed": false, "user_key": "ChrisChambers", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 12, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12195444, "depth": 2, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12185797": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"I'm talking about marriages where one partner just straight lies and figures that the lie won't catch up.\"<br><br>No such animal. Doesn't exist.  You know cause you quoted Chris Rock, no?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_23:01:12", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12184851, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12198563": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "The first line was a nice blogger sound byte. It got your attention, didn't it? Such is why we need newspapers, news magazines, old school Walter Cronkite TV hahaha.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_11:48:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "ChrisChambers", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12198481, "depth": 7, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12186791": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I don't often agree with you, but I do agree on this,  the ability to choose, think, reason and have values is what separates us from the animals.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_23:51:27", "killed": false, "user_key": "rorysmomma", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12185508, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12204713": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "McNair's wife didn't know about the affair. What a horrible way to find out about it:<br><br><blockquote>The wife of slain quarterback Steve McNair may have only learned about the gridiron star's affair with a gorgeous young woman after the clandestine couple's grisly deaths, sources close to the football player said Sunday.<br><br>\"She's blindsided by this,\" one source said of Mechelle McNair, who was holed up in her family's home just 6 miles from the condo her husband used to bed his mistress. \"She's crushed. Her whole world is shattered.\"<br><br>Nashville cops confirmed that Steve McNair, 36, was killed by four bullets fired at close range, two of which hit him in the head, and ruled his death a homicide.<br><br>His lover, Sahel Kazemi, 20, died of a single gunshot from the same semiautomatic found on the floor under her body, police also said.<br><br>They stopped short of calling the slayings a murder-suicide carried out by Kazemi, but said they are not looking for any suspects.<br><br>Cops ruled McNair's death a homicide and have not ruled on Kazemi's death, citing the need for more tests.<br><br>Kazemi and McNair, a dad of four boys, were dating for several months, friends told cops; McNair apparently kept the affair a secret from his wife.<br><br>Photos obtained by <a href=\"http://TMZ.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">TMZ.com</a> show a smiling McNair parasailing on a recent tropical vacation with the curvy Kazemi, whom he met as she waitressed at a Dave & Buster's sports bar.<br><br>\"He started to talk to her a little,\" Kazemi's aunt Sepideh Salmani told The Tennessean newspaper. \"They exchanged phone numbers, and started dating from there.\"<br><br>Salmani said her beautiful, raven-haired niece believed that McNair was in the process of getting a divorce.<br><br>Kazemi's sister told The Florida Times-Union of Jacksonville that Kazemi had expected to wed McNair.<br><br>\"She said they were planning to get married,\" Soheyla Kazemi told the paper.\"<br><br>County records do not indicate that a divorce is pending, but the McNair family home is up for sale for $3 million.<br><br>Investigators said McNair had been drinking at a pair of Nashville bars - Blue Moon Lagoon Bar and Loser's Bar - into the early-morning hours of Saturday and then returned to the downtown condo he shared with a pal.<br><br>Although neighbors have not reported hearing gunshots, cops believe McNair and Kazemi died about 2 a.m., nearly 12 hours before their bodies were found.<br><br>There was no sign of forced entry at the condo, and investigators are checking whether the couple had been having a \"lovers' quarrel,\" cops said.<br><br>It was not immediately known whom the pistol belonged to, although McNair did have a permit to carry a gun, police said.<br><br>Kazemi, who was raised by an aunt in Florida after her parents were killed in Iran, moved to Nashville with her ex-boyfriend, Keith Norfleet.<br><br>Norfleet, whom investigators want to interview, had a \"volatile\" relationship with Kazemi but was trying to win her back from McNair, Norfleet's stepmother said.<br><br>\"They had a lot of jealousy in their relationship and they'd fight and break up a lot,\" said Trudie Norfleet. \"He loved her. ... He's awful torn up about it.\"<br><br>The quarterback, renowned in Nashville for his extensive work in the community, rented the condo overlooking the Titans stadium with sporting goods dealer Wayne Neeley, who called McNair's best friend after seeing the bodies sprawled on a couch.<br><br>\"It's a picture I'll never get out of my head,\" a weeping Robert Gaddy told the Daily News. \"It's the most terrible sight I've ever seen.\"<br><br>\"This was a great man, a man who'd do anything for you,\" said Gaddy, who had been friends with the Heisman finalist since meeting him at Alcorn State University.<br><br>Read more: <a href=\"http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/2009/07/06/2009-07-06_untitled__3mcnair06m.html#ixzz0KVBkjXSP&C\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/2009...</a> </blockquote><br><br>They were talking about him on the TJMS and saying how great of a person he was, I'm thinking he wasn't THAT great considering how he died. I'll say he did some good things for the community, but I won't say \"he was a great man.\"<br><br>Of course, I'm not a football fan, so I'm probably a bit more objective than someone who was a fan of his for years.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_13:40:30", "killed": false, "user_key": "Muzikal203", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 6, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12206252": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Yeah, a couple of us thought that was suspect. if it was REALLY as gruesome as Gaddy says, how the hell did the first guy walk past the scene, walk into the kitchen, then come back out and realize that they were dead, and THEN he called the best friend instead of 911. What the hell?", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_14:10:06", "killed": false, "user_key": "Muzikal203", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12205927, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12200111": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Huh?  I am soooo not upset. The remark was a simple truth.<br><br>\"These things are triggered, perpetuated by forces more than that or plain ego.\"<br><br>I completely disagree. It is all ego. All self-centered focus on their individual desires, wants and needs. To suggest, infer or imply otherwise is nothing but an excuse. It is a denial of accountablity, taking ownership for one's own actions.  Even if someone puts a gun in your hand...you do not have to pull the trigger.<br><br>Your pulling the trigger, is solely an act of deliberate will on the part of the shooter.<br><br>Don't matter if you were given the gun..YOU shot it!!<br>YOU bear the consequences of YOUR actions.<br><br>Did your mom, let you get away with blaming your lil brother or sister, for shyt...cause that is what this sounds like.  He, he, he, but, but, but, her, her, momma they hit me first, they ate cookies too, yes I know you said not to! But, you see what HAD HAPPENED was.....<br><br>PUHLEEEEEEZE!!<br><br>BTW, I do not usually do this but..it is segue", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_12:04:59", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12198337, "depth": 6, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12186739": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I tell my friends who even consider cheating to release the thought and buy a toy.  It is not worth it.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_23:47:49", "killed": false, "user_key": "rorysmomma", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12186218, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12196532": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Sorry, the only person that is responsible for an individuals action is themselves. There is no such thing as 'he/she MADE me do it\"<br><br>That is nothing but sheer lack of accountability, never wanting to be responsible for your own actions, choices and decisions.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_10:27:29", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12195997, "depth": 3, "points": 2, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12202173": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I beleive the \"let us\" in his statement is not about spying, it is about accountability and responsibility.  If your mate/significant other is accountable for expenditure of time, effort, and money,  cheating is not possible.  That kind of accounatbilty builds and maintains trust in a relationship.  <br><br>It would mean sharing of e-mail passwords, bank account sign-ons, credit card sign-ons, and voicemail passwords.  So it would be a couple decision to not allow opportunity for cheating in the relationship.  <br><br>My wife and I were seperated for three years.  When we got back together we required STD test from each other.  We have never looked at the results.  Complete openness creates trust and accountability.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_12:42:25", "killed": false, "user_key": "Nardwilly", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12201228, "depth": 4, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12196544": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "It is nothing BUT an excuse.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_10:28:03", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 6, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12196398, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12201666": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Not at all...you said it well.<br><br>ICAM", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_12:35:17", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12197762, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12204227": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "ITA!!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_13:25:19", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12203500, "depth": 6, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12187333": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "you are assuming that a person who is married decides from \"day one\" he/she wants to \"fool around\"<br><br>rikyrah...you must be a perfect person..<br><br>because you are perfect, I want to meet you with my husband and children<br><br>how soon can we do this?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_00:24:58", "killed": false, "user_key": "Angelar", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12186218, "depth": 3, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12206279": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Oh, so if she doesn't feel like having sex she should anyway because she doesn't want him creepin'? That almost sounds like rape to me. I'm sure guys can live without sex, and if something is going wrong medically, then relieve yourself.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_14:10:54", "killed": false, "user_key": "Muzikal203", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12205296, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12205771": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "WAIT A SEC,<br>how is it that his wife had no clue he was creepin around? how come he wasn't home by curfew? now i'm really starting to think kazemi did kill him after he told her that he wasn't divorcing his wife and that they wasn't getting married. no one deserves to die like this, but he should have stayed his ass at home with his wife working shit out.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_13:55:39", "killed": false, "user_key": "friskee1", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12204713, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12185805": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Yepper, right on Oprah~", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_23:01:42", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12182757, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12188885": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I guess it depends on how one defines 'whim'.  I don't think anyone is supposed to be discarded on a whim, in theory, though the practice is obviously the opposite.  If a woman is not procreating, she is 'cursed' -- that is her one true value in many societies eyes, right?   Her other value is how much money you can make off her family connections.   But I don't know.<br><br>Off topic, remember when being a 'divorcee' was something titillating, sexy and upper class?  At least, I do, right until the mid80s.  Now, it seems like everyone is divorced, big whoop.<br><br>Famous Polyandry:<br>1) certain Mongolians (one woman, two husbands - usually brothers)<br>2) matriarchal polynesians (one woman, many lovers, woman's brothers are more important male role models in a child's life than the child's sperm donor)<br>3) american hippie communes<br><br>Famous Polyandry, individual division, no shame or secrets:<br>1)  Cleopatra (her brother, Julius Caesar, Mark Antony; serial monogamy, yes -- but at least she was allowed it)<br>2)  Empress Wu?<br>3)  Nina Hartley <br><br>Honorable Mention -- the Opposites:<br>1) OT Jews -- bedding one's dead husband's brother to procreate in the dead husband's name?  -- a woman's value is as a uterus for the sake of the group  -- as opposed to<br>2) Purdah (and not just in India) -- once the husband is dead, wifey dies, too -- a woman's value is as a vagina for the sake of the individual.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_02:30:16", "killed": false, "user_key": "Amaya", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12184571, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12182757": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Didn't Bill Clinton say he cheated with Monica Lewinsky \"because he could?\"", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_20:55:09", "killed": false, "user_key": "Town", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12196588": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "But in Steve McNair's case, just sex turned into just dead.    And from the picture of their vacation together it appeared to be way more than 'just sex.'<br><br>Just sex can only happen between two people who know that it's only 'just sex'    If it turns out that  this chick pulled the trigger, obviously, she believed it was way more than 'just sex.'  And if someone else killed them both, obviously, he was in the wrong place at the WAY wrong time...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_10:29:50", "killed": false, "user_key": "isonprize", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 4, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12196242, "depth": 1, "points": 3, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12195565": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Thanks for this, CPL. It was a nice post!<br><br>Bottom line is people lack discipline, self-control, values and morals. The end.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_09:48:50", "killed": false, "user_key": "heartsandflowers", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 2, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12205296": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "she shouldn't have held out in the first place", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_13:47:27", "killed": false, "user_key": "friskee1", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12204860, "depth": 2, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12194036": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "If memory serves, I saw a woman on the Today Show promoting her study of infidelity, which I believe focused on western, industrialized countries (US, Latin America, Europe). I never caught the name of the author or study. She said that her data indicated that there wasn't much difference in the amount of infidelity from one country to the next. What differed was the reaction to infidelity, where people from the U.S. were much more likely to end the relationship than any other country. She attributes this to our Puritan/Calvanist cultural heritage--a heritage clearly on display in this discussion--that involves much more romantic notions of marriage than other places. <br><br>I suspect infidelity is like any other form of \"cheating\" where opportunity makes the thief. That doesn't mean that *everyone* with opportunity cheats. Rather, more opportunity (e.g., increased travel, working longer hours, larger social networks, more private communication vehicles, etc.) simply increases the probability of cheating. Again, these things don't make someone cheat. But, I don't by this notion that groups of people (e.g., men, wealthy, poor, religious, non-religious, etc.) differ systematically in their \"moral fiber\" or in the seriousness of their marital vows. We often compare ourselves to previous generations of supposedly tougher moral makeup. But go back and look at the cultural products they made. Notice how rampant infidelity and divorce are in the old black and white films. Go listen to the blues. As the late, great Buck O'Neil has said about baseball players using steroids: \"If we had access to the stuff we'd have used it too.\"<br><br>Much of the discussion to this point is about gender roles and infidelity. I suspect that the gender roles that our culture assigns us, and that we reinforce through our own behavior, also account for a lot of the differences between men's and women's propensity toward infidelity beyond simple opportunity structure. Almost all of women's cultural status accrues to the roles of mother and wife. Although more status comes to women for their professional accomplishments than in previous generations, even that is clearly mediated by the more traditional roles. That is, a professional-only woman certainly is not granted the same cultural status as a traditional wife/mother who is not in the paid labor force (no matter what they say on Fox News). And in both cases very little status accrues to women as sexual beings outside the roles of wife and mother. (If you doubt this, talk to any US teenager who lives with both parents. If you can get them to acknowledge that they weren't immaculately conceived, you'll find it's much easier for them to see/talk about dad's sexual identity than mom's.) In sharp contrast, men still have a good bit of status that accrues to their sexual identity. A mistress, especially a young one, clearly signals this. It's one major reason that so many men are indiscreet with affairs. (The payoff is in the status more than the sex.) On the flip side, when men reach an age when they can no longer be sexually active--an age increasingly delayed by performance-enhancing drugs--they become honorary women. Culturally, that's when we allow them to be openly dirty old men, when their potency is nil.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_08:26:15", "killed": false, "user_key": "dcrockett17", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12183802": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I'm a firm believer in the maxim \"do unto others as you would have done unto you,\" and as such - I have a very low tolerance for infidelity, coupled with a strong sense of self-respect. I have cursed out or called friends to task who stray, and if a married man approaches me I am angry and offended. I even once overheard a conversation between 2 strangers, where 1 of them was thinking of cheating w/ a friend's girl - and I had to add my 2 cents, telling him not to even go there. (And yes, they did look at me like I was crazy for buttin in.) <br><br>I'm also a believer in honesty. If you feel the need to step out - either let your partner know that you're unhappy w/ the relationship, etc - or heck, even tell them straight up what you are about.  You will be surprised what people will tolerate.  Better yet just end the relationship and do your thing.<br><br>So, from a woman's perspective, to answer your question on why men (and women) cheat (and there are a host of reasons) - it's because they can.  To quote Chris Rock, \"a man is only as faithful as his options.\"  Men cheat bc they can tell a woman straight up that they are married and that triflin heffa won't care. Same w/ men who stray w/ married women. <br><br>We live in a culture where anything goes, where people hook-up on the drop of a dime without thought. Taken in this light, the question  isn't \"who is cheating,\" it's really - who isn't?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_21:46:03", "killed": false, "user_key": "Baracktopia", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 5, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 3, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12203775": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Oh. Sorry! :)<br><br>Your<br>Mileage<br>May<br>Vary", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_13:11:42", "killed": false, "user_key": "APeach", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12201497, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12205828": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "He was a grown ass man, do you think she really gave him a curfew? Especially since he had his own business ventures going on. It'd be interesting to find out exactly WHAT he was telling his wife, but I do think it's entirely possible that she didn't know.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_13:57:34", "killed": false, "user_key": "Muzikal203", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12205771, "depth": 2, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12195589": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "You mean George Clooney?  a confirmed bachelor.   Can't think of a man of color...  Can you?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_09:49:33", "killed": false, "user_key": "isonprize", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12195145, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12230921": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Jackie Christie is a crazy woman.  Her whole life is centered around being Mrs. Doug Christie and trust me, at this point, Doug is totally and thoroughly p-Whipped.  Should he ever decide to cheat on Jackie, he can and he will find ways to get out of those handcuffs she's slapping on him.<br><br>I don't care what she says; following him around on the road like that says she doesn't trust HIM.  The groupies are going to be there - she's neglecting her family following his ass on the road all year.  I remember Sacramento traded his ass because of all the drama Jackie brings with her when she goes on the road.  I think I read somewhere, Doug puts a travel clause for Jackie in his NBA contracts - but the line of teams are getting short for wanting to deal with an NBA player brining excess baggage with him before he even hits the court.<br><br>I'm just surprised he hasn't cheated yet.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_18:26:37", "killed": false, "user_key": "CPL", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": true, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12198765, "depth": 4, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12184330": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I agree with everything you said, and your significant other should be the one who cares and not go there.  I think that it's just too easy for it to happen, and you have situations where someone will like the challenge of messing with your man, or they will think he's fine, and before you know it, they're flirting and then guess what - it happens.<br><br>I know bc it happened to a close friend of mine, right under her nose. A coworker pursued her man and before you know it, they hooked up. And her man was very committed and loved her.  It devastated her.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_22:10:30", "killed": false, "user_key": "Baracktopia", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12184073, "depth": 2, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12201228": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Don't throw up the smokescreen about using obscenities.  We use them all the time here - some of us more than others.<br><br>I call 'bullshit' on your \"let us\" supposition - not you.<br><br>I'm responsible for my choices and actions.  I'm not about to take on the role of policing my mate, significant other or spouse.  They will face or deal with the repercussions of their choices and actions just like I do with mine.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_12:23:32", "killed": false, "user_key": "IWordsmith", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12198501, "depth": 3, "points": 3, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12184851": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "The Clintons have a relationship that to me, defies logic.  But then they didn't ask m -- LOL.   They both love power, they both, by all accounts were great parents to Chelsea.  But, also by many accounts, they both knew he was a ho from the very beginning.   To me, since they both knew it, they are 'in on the deal'<br><br>I'm talking about marriages where one partner just straight lies and figures that the lie won't catch up.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_22:28:24", "killed": false, "user_key": "isonprize", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12182849, "depth": 1, "points": 2, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12185879": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "rikryrah, you are obviously a very intelligent person.  people get married for all kinds of reasons....please don't try to make like it is all about HIV.  Alot of us were born before HIV was a big issue...there are still cultural issues some of us deal with.<br><br>As much as I admire you, you lost me on this argument, big time.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_23:05:05", "killed": false, "user_key": "Angelar", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 10, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12185567, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12186399": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "This week's TIME cover is on infidelity with a lengthy essay inside the magazine.  Curious about people's reaction to the article.<br><br>\"Why Marriage Matters\" by Caitlin Flanagan * 7/2/09<br><a href=\"http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0%2C8599%2C1908243%2C00.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1908243...</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_23:31:11", "killed": false, "user_key": "mdargo", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12184875": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "But how many people actually know they will cheat?  We're all human, with needs and desires, we sometimes do distructive things like sleeping around on a spouse or partner. No one says \"oh well today I will walk the dog, fuck another man/woman... both lol , and then pick up the dry-cleaning.\" I rather try and fight the urge to get involved in the goings-on in other people's relationships. But this is America and that has become a pass-time, judging other people's relationships. <br><br>Mark Sandford is such a joke not because he cheated but because he is digging this hole for himself and proving again that morality and politics do not mix. If he and Jenny want to patch things up and decided where to take their relationship, all power to them. But I could care less who sleeps with whom.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_22:29:20", "killed": false, "user_key": "miss_opinion", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 4, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12243506": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "'it's entirely possible that she didn't know.'<br><br>possible -- but not probable.  i have to side with friskee1 on this one.  she knew.  besides, a woman who is not paying that much attention to her mate is at fault for her mate creeping in the first place.  <br><br>people:  pay attention to your loved ones.  i have no sympathy for people (male or female) who intentionally close their eyes.  the mate who sees and tries to rectify the situation, that's the person who has my sympathy.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-07_03:32:48", "killed": false, "user_key": "Amaya", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12205828, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12184712": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "We will not solve the issue of marriage or why people cheat on this thread.   Actually I am laughing now.  We are human, we are men and women and if you stop to think for a few seconds how imperfect we are and how our upbringings affect how we make decisions...none of us are, or will ever be the \"perfect\" mate, married or unmarried.<br><br>Lets give this marriage subject a rest.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_22:25:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "Angelar", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 2, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12186419": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"I don't understand it. If you don't want to be married, don't be married. Especially when infidelity these days can mean a whole lot more than a broken heart - it can mean DEATH in the form of HIV. Does that not enter the mind of a cheater?\"<br><br>-Not when the cheater is thinking about that AZZ!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_23:32:06", "killed": false, "user_key": "Admiral_Komack", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12185567, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12195124": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "We cheat NOT because we can. We cheat because our spouses/partners/f-buddies let us.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_09:25:42", "killed": false, "user_key": "ChrisChambers", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 22, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12187448": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "If you know the answer dont ask the question.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_00:32:40", "killed": false, "user_key": "Angelar", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12183892, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12204860": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "<blockquote>I have had some friend-girl's who thought it was OK to not have sex with their man. Like for long periods of time. And when they found out that their guy is steppin' out, they were lookin' all brand new.<br></blockquote><br><br>Shouldn't those men have more self-control than that?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_13:44:34", "killed": false, "user_key": "Muzikal203", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12204339, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12196157": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "not a perfect person. not by a long shot.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_10:11:39", "killed": false, "user_key": "rikyrah", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": true, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12187333, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12185407": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Isonprize.<br><br>I assume you have been in a relationship with a man that you loved. When you were in that relationship did you KNOW you would like it with different people? Or did you believe that the one you were with, no matter who else you could like, was the one you wanted to be with, build a life with, have kids and family with?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_22:45:13", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12183892, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12182849": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Yep, sure did.<br><br>And he appeared in public with a fat bruise on his face, cause Hillary dotted that eye for his ass.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_20:59:50", "killed": false, "user_key": "CPL", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": true, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 4, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12232516": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Nardwilly - it isn't necessary to share any email passwords, bank and credit card sign ons or voice mail passwords.  The onus is on the individual to choose not to cheat besides getting access to passwords does not prevent someone from cheating.  We make our own decisions and we decide to cheat or not to cheat.<br><br>Regarding the excercise of requiring an STD test after reconciliation but choosing not looking at the results . . . . Well. . .that is a decision you are both happy with so I will leave that alone.  Interesting though.  :-)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_19:06:03", "killed": false, "user_key": "Val2", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12202173, "depth": 5, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12198728": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Adding honey to my green tea...  LOL<br><br>Peace", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_11:53:45", "killed": false, "user_key": "isonprize", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12198563, "depth": 8, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12195145": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "You know what's missing out of American life these days?  Guys who were just single and straight, and never got married, except perhaps to their jobs and their way of living.<br><br>They had their own income, their own women, and the guys that they would always look up and have guy fun with, even when traveling. They never got a long-standing relationship with a woman, unless they were forced to.<br><br>These days, a guy who isn't married or with a woman in a long-standing relationship is gay.  Which is stupid.  It doesn't leave men to find any middle ground.<br><br>I just wish that those men who creep around would just get divorced to their \"ball and chain,\" and just say that they're just not into marriage.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_09:26:51", "killed": false, "user_key": "blksista", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12185567, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12183373": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "The husband I divorced because he voted for Reagan.  The real reason - infidelity.  And you know what?  He seemed so fucking befuddled when I told him there had been plenty of opportunities for me to cheat with other men.  I got hit on 'all the time.'   It's what YOU do.  There were things important to me - my vows. Christ!  I had NEVER said anything like that to ANYONE.  This was some serious shit.  And then to give birth after being in labor for some 30 hours (back in the old days) - you don't just up & do some weird ass shit.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_21:25:46", "killed": false, "user_key": "IWordsmith", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 3, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12201101": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "lmaooooo!!!", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_12:18:57", "killed": false, "user_key": "TAG60", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12182849, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12184913": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "And you gotta know that there are PLENTY of ol' school black folk that fall in that 'cheaper to keep her' camp.    You know how we do.<br><br>Uncle Joe and Aunt Sarah livin' in separate houses, in separate towns, sometimes separate states, each with their own sweeties.   But let a wedding or a funeral happen, and there they are, together for the \"show of family\" <br><br>I have never understood that one either.  But like I've said before, they didn't ask me...LOLOL", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_22:30:56", "killed": false, "user_key": "isonprize", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12183411, "depth": 1, "points": 4, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12202322": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "\"some people will counter with, if you love the person then why cheat?\"<br><br>Yes, but then...those same folks looooved they momma, but I bet they didn't always do what she said, either!<br><br>And we KNOW they still LOVE momma, no matter how many times they failed to live by her rules or be disciplined enough to do what she said.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_12:46:16", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12201838, "depth": 4, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12183892": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "But I still ask the question -- Why get married in the first place?  If you KNOW you like it with diffferent people, WHY GET MARRIED?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_21:50:56", "killed": false, "user_key": "isonprize", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 9, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 3, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12184414": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I don't think it's silly at all.   It gets to the heart of what marriage is.   There are laws that govern it.  Some would argue that is speaks to the foundation of modern civilization.   <br><br>What is marriage? <br><br>Is it a commitment of two people to each other for life? -- or just until one doesn't want to be married anymore?   <br><br> Is it monogomous?  or does it allow for \"steppin' out\" when one gets bored?<br><br>(And this doesn't even touch on the marriage between a man and a woman  v.   homosexuals who want the right to marry,  property rights, medical benefits, citizenship, etc.)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_22:14:28", "killed": false, "user_key": "isonprize", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12184146, "depth": 2, "points": 2, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12204897": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "i defintely agree with this sentiment. if you've invested years into your marriage, just walking away from it because of infidelity would b pointless without thinking things through. especially if you have kids in the mix. no one ever thinks about what role the \"cheatee\" played in why the marriage was destroyed in the first place. you knew what type of person that you married and if he/she was running aroun don you in the first place, then marriage isn't gonna change that. but if he happened to be a good man, but got caught up, then something was wrong in the relationship anyway that he either tried to warn you about but you wouldn't listen and instead he had to do him. happens all the time", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_13:45:55", "killed": false, "user_key": "friskee1", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12202690, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12204177": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Thank You! I really hate how folks use that phrase, \"you let him cheat on you\".<br>Like you got the deeds to the person's life/actions or somn.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_13:23:33", "killed": false, "user_key": "TAG60", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12196532, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12231531": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "no Chris.  The responsibility is yours.  You own it.  Has nothing to do with who you are with or the circumstances. You own that decision.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_18:47:18", "killed": false, "user_key": "Val2", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12195997, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12198765": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "There was a possible cultural difference.  Most American women would know the score.  Few financially successful, despite Lifetime movies, leave a wife and kids after 4 months with a young woman working as a waitress in a bar.   Not gonna happen.  I am sorry they died, but McNair should have known they were not playing the same game.<br><br>Whoever Doug Christie's teammates were chilling with knew wifey was number 1.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_11:54:58", "killed": false, "user_key": "Nardwilly", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12197248, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12201838": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I disagree. Cheating on your spouse does not mean you don't want to be married to the person you are with or that you don't love them. I know some people will counter with, if you love the person then why cheat? At the end of the day, we all do things that are not understandable to other people. <br>Yes HIV and AIDS are real but trust me, that is not a good enough reason to stop someone from cheating.<br>And black women need to be more responsible. Dont let that dude hit it raw...no matter how good he tells you it feels.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_12:38:10", "killed": false, "user_key": "TAG60", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12186218, "depth": 3, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12183411": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "LOL@ the part about old women hitting on Obama. <br><br>I think people cheat because they think they can get away with it. Sanford was so cocky (no pun intended) that he thought he could just disappear to Argentina for 10 days and no one would notice. Even after his wife found out, that fool had the audacity to ask if he could continue to see his paramour. That's ballsy. <br><br>I've seen a lot of comments on other sites about how men cheat because they aren't meant to be monogamous. Bullshit, if you as a man don't think you can be monogamous because of what you attribute to your genetic makeup and natural tendencies, then YOU shouldn't get married. Same goes for women. <br><br>Then there were other comments that the wife was no longer satisfying him sexually, well if you aren't satisfied in the relationship GET A DIVORCE. This isn't Europe in the 17th and 18th centuries, you can get a divorce rather easily these days, even if it can be expensive. <br><br>If you're in the \"it's cheaper to keep her\" camp and you and your wife/husband call yourselves in an open relationship, more power to you.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_21:27:36", "killed": false, "user_key": "Muzikal203", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 5, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12197248": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "\"Just sex can only happen between two people who know that it's only 'just sex' \"<br><br>Nope, only one person has to believe it is 'just sex' and not be emotionally attached...and typically that is the male.<br><br>\"And from the picture of their vacation together it appeared to be way more than 'just sex.'\"<br><br>See, this is how women get it twisted. Just cause a guy is laughing and having fun doesn't mean it is more than sex.  Hell, guys laugh and have fun with the guys, and it has nothing to do with sex.  The problem is women seem to be blind to the fact that a man can do things that he enjoys with you and it doesn't mean he likes or loves you...he is having a good time most times cause he knows she IS going to give up some butt in the end and that alone puts him in a GREAT mood.<br><br>It is so sad that women deceive thenselves into believing otherwise. <br><br>Just like those posts yesterday, where the girl beleived cause he put her up in a condo(which he didn't) bought her an Escalade and was being seen in public with her that she was more than a piece of ass DESPITE him being married.<br><br>NAW...it just means he is doing what he enjoys and getting away with it.<br><br>And when the Iranian woman figured out the deal, as he was dumping her ass, her pride&dignity couldn't handle it...she had told her family and friends he was marrying her..she couldn't face the truth..she was inDEED a piece of ass..so she blew his lying ass away and killed herself.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_10:57:52", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12196588, "depth": 2, "points": 4, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12183425": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I'm glad someone is telling it like it should be told. No person ever deserves to die and I feel for his family, most of all his wife and kids. But the facts are there. He was fooling around with this little girl (yes, little girl) and got caught in the worst way.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_21:28:11", "killed": false, "user_key": "d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 2, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12197762": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Violence is never an anwser.<br><br>Infidelity like marriage is a choice. You choose to marry and you choose to be unfaithful to your spouse.<br><br>Anyone who says they were overcome by a deep compelling passion for another person and hence set aside their marriage vows is a fucking liar. What they are is an emotionally selfish child. <br><br>Sorry but I am about to offend some people with the following statement:<br><br>There ain't no poontang or dick that good. Some people are just too emotionally immature to place others needs before their own or they've been reading too many Harlequin Romance novels. It is that simple.<br><br>Hell, you're not being satisfied sexually at home, get some sexual counseling! If that doesn't work and the sex is that important to you, get a divorce and find someone who does it for you.<br><br>Your wife is a shrewish harpy, divorce the bitch.<br><br>Your husband is a trifling asshat, divorce the bastard.<br><br>You've been married for ten years, have three kids, your husband is a philandering idiot but a very good provider. Either end the marriage and face the reality that you will have to downsize the lifestyle or stay in the marriage, suck it up and deal because you know what, it was YOUR choice.<br><br>Your wife is cheating on you and not being the least bit discreet. Leave her or continue to play the cuckold but don't be a whiny bitch about it because it was YOUR choice.<br><br>In reality almost every person saw the indicators in their potential spouses that hinted at this sort of behavior and simply put the blinders on and held out hope that marriage or they could \"change\" them.<br><br>But like I said, you married the mofo, now deal!<br><br>Was that too harsh?  LOL", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_11:18:30", "killed": false, "user_key": "allheavens", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 9, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12188552": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "My opinion only, flamesuit on:   There's infidelity, and there's open marriages. A spouse, male or female, who looks the other way while their significant other is getting some on the side is not being cheated on.  They are a participant in a form of open marriage, whether they can live with the truth or not.<br><br>They are not a victim.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_01:58:53", "killed": false, "user_key": "Amaya", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12185996": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Go for it , get it over with.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_23:11:56", "killed": false, "user_key": "Angelar", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12183892, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12230545": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Chris, I respect your opinions; I really do.<br><br>That's why what I'm about to say is going to blow your theory out of the water.<br><br>Many years ago, I met a major league ballplayer who showed me mad attention whenever he came to town.  Wined and dined - the whole nine yards.  I was a very naive 25 year old who believed I found Prince Charming, and fell deeply in love.<br><br>Then, when things started getting serious, he asked me to go on the road with him.  Cool, right?<br><br>But one of his teammates saw me; saw I wasn't a groupie, and got in homeboy's grill and told him \"She's a nice girl - you better tell her your situation. She's too nice to lead on like that.  And if you don't tell her, I will - I have a daughter near her age and I'd damned sure want her to know what a jackass you are.\"<br><br>To which my would-be lover told him to drink a glass of STHU, and stay out his \"business\".<br><br>Anyway, as circumstance would have it, some kids asked me to get my guy's autograph on a baseball card.  As I turned over the card to read his stats, the stats that were included: <b>\"Wife and two kids.\"</b><br><br>I can't tell you how I managed after I saw that.  My hopes and dreams - crashed like NASCAR.  My heart - Irreparably BROKEN.<br><br>I had to confront homebiscuits.  I wasted no time, but I acted like a suddenly grown woman.<br><br>\"Why didn't you tell me you were married?\" I asked.<br><br>\"I'll give you the history when I come back to town\", he said.<br><br>\"Not waiting to hear it\" I said.  And walked off.<br><br>My mom gave me the \"I knew he was married but you needed to find out for yourself\" speech after I'd cried myself to sleep that night, and took the next day off work to compose myself.  My mom also said:<br><br><b>\"If you were going to Seattle with him, you needed to know that all you would ever be is one of his women on the road.  So, if you went that route, get all you can out of his ass and can all you get out of his ass.  But, I'm glad you found out before you gave yourself to him (I was a virgin) because if you gave yourself to him and found out after, the USA wouldn't be big enough for his Black Ass to hide from your stepfather and me tracking him down and getting into that ass.\"</b><br><br>My stepfather had his Winchester out and was ready to go hunting at the next A's Game; not realizing my guy played for the opposition, LOL.<br><br>I don't think his wife \"let\" him cheat.  Then or ten years later when we ran into each other and he was still singing the same ol' bullshyt.  And I still walked.<br><br>All parties have a CHOICE.  Homegirl had a choice to screw McNair - if he misled her, she would have been better off blackmailing him instead of blowing his ass away.<br><br>Long rant, but I see both sides of this equation = ALL PARTIES MAKE THE CHOICE.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_18:14:39", "killed": false, "user_key": "CPL", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": true, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12195124, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12196242": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "People get married for other reasons than a steady and exclusive sex partner.  Things happen in marriages that can make cheating easier.  I know of family men that have cheated on their wives, love their wives, respect their family and children and have steady girlfriends.<br><br>I've seen men like that in my father\u2019s generation and mine.  I am a man.  These men were and are mentors and guidepost for me in my family life.  I know of two that got caught and it affected their family adversely.  I  know of others that it remains a secret, (no broad public knowledge) and the children love and respect their Dad.  The wives and husbands demonstrate a loving and caring relationship.<br>Why?  The husbands put family first.  It was just sex.   <br><br>It is still wrong.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_10:15:33", "killed": false, "user_key": "Nardwilly", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 5, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12185508": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "\"Men cheat bc they can tell a woman straight up that they are married and that triflin heffa won't care. Same w/ men who stray w/ married women.\"<br><br>Which goes straight to values. Things like committment, honor, integrity, honesty, fidelity.  All these things are values.<br><br>The very values that many folks look down on and think others who strive to uphold them and who respect them are being judgmental.<br><br>Those who lack values consistently want to tell those with them, that somehow, they are wrong for not only having those values, but for having the courage of conviction to express them.<br><br>Then, they wonder why the world is going to hell in a hand basket.<br><br>sigh", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_22:49:18", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12183802, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12200885": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Attention grabber headlines should also be consistent with the point you are making.<br><br>Are you saying you said one thing and meant otherwise, and therefore actually mislead the reader as to what your point was?<br><br>Which means you are the one who needs to calm down, instead of blaming the reader.<br><br>ooops, but blaming the reader WOULD be consistent with what your initial grabber line said.<br><br>hmmmmm...now tell us again what DID you mean?<br><br>Sipping my tea, slowly and contentedly.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_12:12:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12198563, "depth": 8, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12201914": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Yep!<br>I think there was a cultural gap, in terms of her heirtage, but there was also a whiteentitlement mindset that contributed to her purely egotistical self-concept that she was ALL that and the trophy that a black male wants, to the degree that he was going to leave his Blackwife and Blackids for her.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_12:39:24", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12198765, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12198337": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Oh come off it people! Have some herbal teas and calm the f- down! <br>OF COURSE it's not s free pass and of course you are the master of your own will, ethics. And yes there is a victim is all of this crap. Funny how we are ambivalent when he/she's on camera, though eh? Which segways to the point: peel open high profile cheating situations, or even your neighbors, and you just may find a partner, spouse, girlfriend, boyfriend whatever who for whatever reason sees/smells/hears it coming, and balks. Or goes into denial. Or runs off to friends, pastors, whomever rather than confronting the bedrock issues. Or perhaps the bedrock issues are something no one wants to face (cheating as by product, not the thing of itself).<br><br>Very, very few people are mere canines in heat. These things are triggered, perpetuated by forces more than that or plain ego.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_11:41:24", "killed": false, "user_key": "ChrisChambers", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 5, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12196544, "depth": 5, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12198340": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Bullshit.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_11:41:31", "killed": false, "user_key": "IWordsmith", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 4, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12195124, "depth": 1, "points": 3, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12223431": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "he was a family man nearing 40. after 35 no married man hangs out all hours of the night just to be with his homeboys.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_16:59:45", "killed": false, "user_key": "friskee1", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12205828, "depth": 3, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12204339": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Great piece! <br><br>And I'm glad somebody said it about McNair. While the man shouldn't have lost his life, if would have been where he was supposed to be (with his family!), I think the ending would have been different.<br><br>I have had some friend-girl's who thought it was OK to not have sex with their man. Like for long periods of time. And when they found out that their guy is steppin' out, they were lookin' all brand new. <br><br>I'm not saying be a sex slave, but lets keep it real. If somebody will voluntarily have sex with Lil Wayne, ya man can find somebody to keep him satisfied. <br><br>On the flip side, men need to give a little too. When your woman says she isn't in the mood, instead of steppin' out, think about when was the last time you told her she was beautiful. Bought her flowers for no reason. Took the kids for the afternoon so she had some time to shave her damn legs. Gave her a back rub and didn't expect anything in return. <br><br>Just my humble opionin.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_13:28:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "texasladybird", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 4, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12207051": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I compeletely agree..nothing but BULL!!  Just cause someone puts a gun in your hand, don't mean you got to pull the trigger!!<br><br>Don't matter what a women does, that is like that lame..she  was dressed like a ho, had on a short skirt/fishnethoseanklechain and minidress BBULL...Please if she left her front door open, that means you can ROB her, GMAB  ....you the one that ACTED on it!!<br><br>That's on YOU!!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_14:33:14", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12204103, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12197841": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "That's a total cop out. What do you mean \"let you?\" Get some self-control and accept responsibility. I don't care what the other person is or isn't doing for you, what you do is on you and only you.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_11:21:28", "killed": false, "user_key": "ASmith", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12195124, "depth": 1, "points": 2, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12243922": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Chris, I know exactly what you are talking about and what you are saying -- and I've seen it, both sides; and been there, both sides.<br><br>I guess others have lived more blameless lives than you or I.  But the truth of the matter is, for me, you're right.  Though the onus is on the cheater for acting upon that desire, there is also an onus on the cheatee who figures out something is not right but does nothing (or little) to correct the situation beyond putting the blinders on... or telling themselves 'at least they come home to me' after each separate incident.<br><br>Mechelle knew.<br><br>That's why I loved that white lady, Jenny Sanford.  She's the ONLY public figure of a woman I'm aware of with the balls to attempt to follow through on the 'you get one more chance -- and I'm not immediately appearing beside you in a public show of forgiveness as damage control if you eff up.'<br><br>I don't see the Sanford's divorcing, for all that; but again, Jenny Sanford has gone above and beyond what women usually feel it necessary to do when their man cheats.  She didn't lie about having no idea.  She didn't mark her territory by standing beside him for the millionth time in front of the press when news immediately broke.   She didn't call out the women her husband slept with as liars, or homewreckers.  I really hope she continues to handle her business without blinders.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-07_03:45:32", "killed": false, "user_key": "Amaya", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12195997, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12232185": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "-", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_18:55:29", "killed": false, "user_key": "Val2", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12185567": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I don't understand it. If you don't want to be married, don't be married. Especially when infidelity these days can mean a whole lot more than a broken heart - it can mean DEATH in the form of HIV. Does that not enter the mind of a cheater?<br><br>CPL,<br><br>I LMAO everytime I read your recount of Obama at the CBC Weekend.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_22:51:35", "killed": false, "user_key": "rikyrah", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": true, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 17, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 3, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12203500": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "personally, i try not to judge folks cos although i have strong convictions, its not so easy to tell what i would do if i was ever in that kind of situation. Bottom line, if you choose to do it and you get caught, thats on you.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_13:07:12", "killed": false, "user_key": "TAG60", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12202322, "depth": 5, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12229105": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Now I'm not advocating rape or anything like that. Rape is forcing yourself on someone. Choosing to have sex with your partner because it makes them happy, even when your motor may not be runnin' at top speed is what I'm talking about.<br><br>My point is that to me withholding sex or not having sex with your SO does nothing to help your relationship. <br><br>If there is a medical reason for a low libido, you should care about your SO enough to find out why. <br><br>If you are withholding sex in order to exert some sort of control over the other person, your relationship is already in trouble.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-06_17:31:46", "killed": false, "user_key": "texasladybird", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12206279, "depth": 4, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12185593": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Will power and discipline just are no competition for a man weak in the flesh.<br>Often times, the 'good guys' the ones who do committ and who do strive for fidelity...they are weak for the flesh. They are not doing drugs or gambling and sex is about the only vice they have.  <br><br>No man is flawless and every person you meet has one of 3 vices, sex, money or drugs...many folks have more than one of the three..but everybody has one of 'em.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_22:52:36", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12184330, "depth": 3, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "12184571": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Are you only looking at the culture in the U.S. which is monogomous or are you also taking into the cultures that allow marriages of men with many wives?   Which is interesting right there...I don't know of any cultures that allow women to have many husbands and discard them at whim...hmm!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2009-07-05_22:19:32", "killed": false, "user_key": "Angelar", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "5 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 12184414, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}}, "integration": {"receiver_url": "", "theme": 4, "reply_position": true, "disqus_logo": false}, "timer": {"timer_url": "http://localhost:8005", "thread_id": "24302310", "user_id": "anonymous", "forum_id": "21630", "hash": -1383626532765303875}, "thread": {"days_alive": 0, "slug": "let8217s_talk_about_the_8220i8221_word", "paginate": false, "num_pages": 1, "num_posts": 112, "per_page": 0, "total_posts": 0, "realtime_paused": true, "id": 24302310, "queued": false}, "reactions_limit": 10, "context": {"show_reply": true, "use_fb_connect": true, "forum_facebook_key": "bd6a8bc56f8eb204984f34b6fefe228d", "use_yahoo": false, "subscribed": false, "use_twitter_signin": true, "use_openid": false, "realtime_speed": 5000}, "reactions_start": 0, "settings": {"debug": false, "disqus_url": "http://disqus.com", "media_url": "http://media.disqus.com"}, "media_url": "http://media.disqus.com"};
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// Dsq.FmtStrings





Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN = '3a1994e3330279e78957da82fb64f754';
Dsq.COMMENTS_RE = /(<li.*?id="?dsq-comment-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/li>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_RE = /(<div.*?id="?dsq-comment-header-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/div>)\s*(<div.*?class="?dsq-comment-body"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_BODY_RE = /\s*(<div.*?id="?dsq-comment-message-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
// HACK: Safari ends with "-->" while other browsers end with "--&gt;" as expected.
Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE = /&lt;!--\[(.*?)\]--(?:>|&gt;)/gim;



var FragmentPacket = function(reader, writer, writer_url, is_child, receiveCallback) {
	var that = this;
	this.reader = reader;
	this.writer = writer;
	this.writer_url = writer_url;

	this.is_child = is_child || false;
	this.receiveCallback = receiveCallback;

	this._lastHash = null;

	this._accumMsg = '';

	this._lastSeqno = 0;

	this.MAX_DATA_LEN	= 1024;

	this.WAIT_TIME		= 10;

	this.READY		= 0x1;
	this.WRITING	= 0x2;
	this.FIN		= 0x4;
	this.ACK		= 0x8;

};

FragmentPacket.prototype.createListener = function() {
	var that = this;
	var listener = function() {
		that.recv();
	};
	return window.setInterval(listener, 10);
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.log = function(msg) {



};

FragmentPacket.prototype.recv = function() {
	var hash;
	if (/MSIE/.test(navigator.userAgent)) {

		hash = this.reader.name;
	} else {

		var hashIndex = this.reader.location.href.indexOf('#');
		if (hashIndex == -1) {
			return;
		}
		hash = this.reader.location.href.substring(hashIndex+1);
	}
	var flags = parseInt(hash.substring(0, 4), 10);
	var seqno = parseInt(hash.substring(4, 24), 10);
	var data  = hash.substring(24);

	if (this._lastHash !== hash) {
		this._lastHash = hash;
		this.log('recv: ' + hash);

		this.log(' flags: ' + flags);
		this.log(' seqno: ' + seqno + ' len: ' + hash.substring(4, 24).length + ' (' + hash.substring(4, 24) + ')');
		this.log(' data: ' + data + ' len: ' + data.length);

		this._lastSeqno = seqno;

		if (flags & this.WRITING) {
			this._accumMsg += data;
			this.sendFlag(this.ACK, seqno);
			if (flags & this.FIN) {
				this.log('recv finished: ' + decodeURIComponent(this._accumMsg));
				this.receiveCallback(decodeURIComponent(this._accumMsg));

				this._accumMsg = '';

				this.sendFlag(this.READY | this.ACK, this._lastSeqno);
			}
		}
	}

	return {
		flags: flags,
		seqno: seqno,
		data: data
	};
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.sendRawPacket = function(packet) {
	if (/MSIE/.test(navigator.userAgent)) {
		this.writer.name = packet;
	} else {

		this.writer.location.href = this.writer_url + '#' + packet;
	}

};

FragmentPacket.prototype.sendFlag = function(flag, seqno) {
	this.sendRawPacket(this._zerofill(flag, 4) + this._zerofill(seqno, 20));
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.send = function(msg) {
	this._send(0, encodeURIComponent(msg));
};

FragmentPacket.prototype._send = function(packetNum, msg) {
	var that = this;
	var recvBuf = this.recv();

	if (packetNum === 0) {

		if (!(recvBuf.flags & this.READY)) {
			this.log('client is not ready, waiting...');
			window.setTimeout(function() { that._send(packetNum, msg); }, this.WAIT_TIME);
			return;
		}
	} else {

		if (!( (recvBuf.flags & this.ACK) && (recvBuf.seqno === this._lastSeqno) )) {
			this.log('waiting for ack from client...');
			window.setTimeout(function() { that._send(packetNum, msg); }, this.WAIT_TIME);
			return;
		} else {
			this.log('received ack: ' + this._lastSeqno + ' ' + recvBuf.seqno);
		}
	}

	var flags = this.WRITING;
	var num_packets = Math.ceil(msg.length / this.MAX_DATA_LEN);
	this.log('num_packets: ' + num_packets);

	if (num_packets === packetNum) {

		this.log('message successfully sent!');
		this.sendFlag(this.READY | this.ACK, this._lastSeqno);
		return true;
	}

	this._lastSeqno++;

	if (packetNum == num_packets-1) {
		flags |= this.FIN;
	}

	var data = msg.substring(packetNum * this.MAX_DATA_LEN, (packetNum+1) * this.MAX_DATA_LEN);
	var packet = this._zerofill(flags, 4) + this._zerofill(this._lastSeqno, 20) + data;

	this.log('sending raw packet: ' + packet);
	this.sendRawPacket(packet);

	return this._send(packetNum + 1, msg);
};

FragmentPacket.prototype._zerofill = function(num, width) {
	var retval = num.toString();
	var retval_len = retval.length;
	for (var i = 0; i < width - retval_len; i++) {
		retval = '0' + retval;
	}
	return retval;
};

var PostMessagePacket = function(receiver, receiveCallback, id, receiverId) {
	var that = this;
	this.receiver = receiver;
	this.receiveCallback = receiveCallback;
	this.id = id;


	this.receiverId = receiverId;
};

PostMessagePacket.prototype.createListener = function() {
	var that = this;

	var listener = function(e) {

		if (!that.id) {
			that.id = e.data;
			return;
		}


		var id = e.data.split(';')[0];
		if (id !== that.id) {
			return;
		}
		var data = e.data.substring(e.data.indexOf(';') + 1);

		that.receiveCallback(data);
	};

	if (typeof window.attachEvent == 'function') {
		window.attachEvent('onmessage', listener);
	} else if (typeof window.addEventListener == 'function') {
		window.addEventListener('message', listener, false);
	} else {
		throw new Error('No method found to create event listener for PostMessagePacket.');
	}
};

PostMessagePacket.prototype.send = function(msg) {



	var needs_reget = false;
	try {
		if (typeof this.receiver.id == 'undefined' || typeof this.receiver.postMessage == 'undefined') {
			needs_reget = true;
		}
	} catch(e) {


	}
	if (needs_reget && typeof this.receiverId != 'undefined') {
		this.receiver = document.getElementById(this.receiverId).contentWindow;
	}

	var packet;
	if (!msg) {

		packet = this.id;
	} else {
		packet = this.id + ';' + msg;
	}
	this.receiver.postMessage(packet, '*');
};

PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = null;
PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id = function() {
	var id = (new Date()).getTime();
	if (id == PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id) {
		id++;
	}
	PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = id;
	return id.toString();
};

var JsonRpc = function() {

	this.ids = {};

	this.objectToJSON = function(obj) {
		var json = '';
		var results = [];

		if (obj === undefined || obj === null) {
			return 'null';
		}

		switch (obj.constructor) {
			case Object:
				for (var property in obj) {
					if (obj.hasOwnProperty(property)) {
						results.push(this.objectToJSON(property) + ': ' + this.objectToJSON(obj[property]));
					}
				}
				json = '{' + results.join(', ') + '}';
				break;
			case Array:
				for (var i = 0; i < obj.length; i++) {
					results.push(this.objectToJSON(obj[i]));
				}
				json = '[' + results.join(', ') + ']';
				break;
			case Number:
			case Boolean:
				json = obj.toString();
				break;
			case String:

				var specialChars = {'\b': '\\b', '\t': '\\t', '\n': '\\n', '\f': '\\f', '\r': '\\r', '\\': '\\\\'};

				json = obj.replace(/[\x00-\x1f\\]/g, function(match) {
					var ch = specialChars[match];
					return ch ? ch : '\\u00' + match.charCodeAt().toPaddedString(2, 16);
				});

				json = '"' + json.replace(/"/g, '\\"') + '"';
				break;
			default:

				json = 'null';
				break;
		}

		return json;
	};

	this.createHandler = function(send_func, registered_funcs) {
		var that = this;
		var handler = function(message) {

			try {
				var rpc = eval('(' + message + ')');
			} catch(e) {
				alert('bad JSON: ' + message);
				return;
			}
			if (rpc.method) {

				if (!registered_funcs[rpc.method]) {
					return;
				}

				var retval = registered_funcs[rpc.method].apply(null, rpc.params);
				if (rpc.id) {
					var response = {
						result: retval,
						error: null,	// TODO
						id: rpc.id
					};
					send_func(that.objectToJSON(response));
				}
			} else if(rpc.result) {

				if (!that.ids[rpc.id]) {
					return;
				}

				that.ids[rpc.id](rpc.result);
				delete that.ids[rpc.id];
			}
		};
		return handler;
	};

	this.execute = function(send_func, method, params, response_callback) {
		response_callback = response_callback || null;
		var id = (response_callback) ? (new Date()).getTime() : null;

		var request = {
			method: method,
			params: params,
			id: id
		};

		send_func(this.objectToJSON(request));

		if (id) {
			this.ids[id] = response_callback;
		}
	};
};
JsonRpc = new JsonRpc();

var ParentMessenger = function(childUrl, receiverUrl, container, receiveCallback) {


	if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Safari') >= 0 && parseInt(navigator.userAgent.substring(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Version/') + 8), 10) == 3) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	} else if (window.opera) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	}



	if (!receiverUrl &&
		navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Gecko') >= 0 &&
		parseFloat(navigator.userAgent.slice(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 3, navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 6)) < 1.9) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	}


	if (/msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent)) {


		if (document.domain == window.location.hostname) {
			receiverUrl = '';
		}
	}

	var that = this;
	this.childUrl = childUrl;
	this.receiverUrl = receiverUrl;
	this.container = container || document.body;

	this.packetHandler = null;


	this._ready = false;
	this._error = false;


	var _createReceiverForFragmentPacket = function() {

		that.receiver = document.createElement('iframe');
		that.receiver.src = receiverUrl;
		that.receiver.id = 'receiver_' + (new Date()).getTime();
		that.receiver.name = that.receiver.id;

		that.receiver.frameBorder = '0';
		that.receiver.frameSpacing = '0';
		that.receiver.style.borderStyle = 'none';

		var receiver_onload = function() {
			var receiver = document.getElementById(that.receiver.id).contentWindow;

			try {
				receiver.document.body.innerHTML = '';
			} catch(e) {

				that._error = true;
			}
			receiver.document.body.style.padding = '0px';
			receiver.document.body.style.margin = '0px';

			var child = receiver.document.createElement('iframe');
			child.id = 'child';
			child.name = 'child';
			child.src = that.childUrl;

			child.frameBorder = '0';
			child.frameSpacing = '0';
			child.style.borderStyle = 'none';
			child.style.width = '100%';
			child.style.height = '100%';
			receiver.document.body.appendChild(child);

			that.child = receiver.document.getElementById('child').contentWindow;
			that.receiver = receiver;

			that.packetHandler = new FragmentPacket(that.receiver, that.child, that.childUrl, false, receiveCallback);

			that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();

			that.packetHandler.sendFlag(that.packetHandler.READY, 0);

			that._ready = true;
		};

		that.receiver.onreadystatechange = function() {
			if (this.readyState == 'complete') {
				receiver_onload();
			}
		};

		that.receiver.onload = receiver_onload;







		if (Dsq.Utils.ie) {
			if (that.container.clientWidth === 0) {

				var _waitForWidth = function() {
					if (that.container.clientWidth > 0) {
						Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
					} else {
						window.setTimeout(_waitForWidth, 100);
					}
				};
				_waitForWidth();

				that._once = false;
				that.receiver.onresize = function() {
					if (!that._once) {
						Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
					}
					that._once = true;
				};
			}
		}

		that.container.appendChild(that.receiver);
	};


	var _createReceiverForPostMessage = function() {

		var receiver_onload = function() {

			that.packetHandler.send();
			that._ready = true;
		};

		var id = PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id();
		var receiverId = 'child_' + id;


		ParentMessenger['_receiver_onload_' + receiverId] = receiver_onload;

		that.container.innerHTML += '<iframe ' +
			'src="' + childUrl + '" ' +
			'id="' + receiverId + '" ' +
			'name="' + receiverId + '" ' +
			'onload="ParentMessenger._receiver_onload_' + receiverId +'();" ' +
			'></iframe>';

		that.receiver = document.getElementById(receiverId).contentWindow;
		that.packetHandler = new PostMessagePacket(that.receiver, receiveCallback, id, receiverId);
		that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();
	};

	if (typeof window.postMessage == 'function') {
		_createReceiverForPostMessage();
	} else {
		_createReceiverForFragmentPacket();
	}

};

ParentMessenger.prototype.sendMessage = function(message) {
	var that = this;
	if (!this._ready) {

		window.setTimeout(function() { that.sendMessage(message); }, 10);
		return;
	}
	this.packetHandler.send(message);
	return true;
};

Dsq.NewFrames = function(url) {
	this.url = url;
};

Dsq.NewFrames.prototype.init = function(onFailure) {
	var that = this;

	try {
		this.messenger = new ParentMessenger(this.url, Dsq.jsonData.integration.receiver_url, this.container, this.receive_callback);
	} catch(e) {
		if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
			onFailure();
		}
	}

	if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
		var iId = window.setInterval(function() {
			if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
				return;
			}
			if (that.messenger._ready) {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
			} else if (that.messenger._error) {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
				onFailure();
			}
		}, 10);
	}
};

Dsq.NewFrames.prototype._execute = function(method, args, callback) {
	var that = this;
	if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
		return false;
	}
	JsonRpc.execute(
		function(msg) { that.messenger.sendMessage(msg); },
		method,
		args || [],
		callback);
	return true;
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame = function(container, parent_post_id) {
	var that = this;
	this.container = container;
	this.parent_post_id = parent_post_id;

	var sendFunc = function(msg) {

		Dsq.Debug.log('Dsq.ReplyFrame.sendFunc');
		that.messenger.sendMessage(msg);
	};


	var postComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
		Dsq.jsonData.posts[response.message.id] = response.message.post_meta;
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key]) {
			Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key] = response.message.user_meta;
		}


		var reply_position = (typeof(disqus_insert_wrt_sort) == 'undefined' 
			? (Dsq.jsonData.forum.reply_position ? -1 : null) 
			: (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 2 ? null : -1));
		
		if (response.message.post_meta.approved) {
			Dsq.Post.insert(response.message.post_meta.parent_post_id || reply_position, response.message.id, response.message.post_meta.message);
		}

		Dsq.Templates.postComment_onSuccess(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
	};

	var postComment_onFailure = function(response) {
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(response.message, 'Error');
		Dsq.Templates.postComment_onFailure(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
	};

	var editComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
		var post_id = parent_post_id;
		var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);
		
		message.innerHTML = response.message;
		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};
	
	var editComment_onFailure = function(response) {
		var post_id = parent_post_id;
		
		Dsq.Popup.popModal('Sorry, there was an error editing this comment.', 'Edit Error');
		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	var getUserByEmail_onSuccess = function(response) {
		var msg = response.message;
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(parent_post_id);

		if (msg.username) {

			Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'login', {
				'username': msg.username,
				'display_name': msg.display_name,
				'avatar_url': msg.avatar_url,
				'verified': msg.verified,
				'email': fields.email.value
			});
		} else {

			Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'register');
		}
	};

	var validateAuth_onSuccess = function(response, auth_choice) {
		Dsq.Templates.postComment(parent_post_id, null, true, auth_choice);
	};

	var validateAuth_onFailure = function(response, auth_choice) {
		var pid = parent_post_id ? '-' + parent_post_id : '';
		var msg = response.message;

		if (auth_choice == 'register') {
			var fields = ['email', 'username', 'password'];

			for (var i = 0; i < fields.length; i++) {
				var field = fields[i];
				var errorDiv = Dsq.$('dsq-' + field + '-errors' + pid);

				if (msg[field]) {
					errorDiv.innerHTML = msg[field];
				} else {
					errorDiv.innerHTML = '';
				}
			}
		} else if (auth_choice == 'login') {
			Dsq.$('dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid).innerHTML = '<p>We couldn\'t log you in. Please verify your login.</p>';
		}
		
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	this.receive_callback = JsonRpc.createHandler(sendFunc, {
		'postComment.onSuccess': postComment_onSuccess,
		'postComment.onFailure': postComment_onFailure,
		'editComment.onSuccess': editComment_onSuccess,
		'editComment.onFailure': editComment_onFailure,		
		'getUserByEmail.onSuccess': getUserByEmail_onSuccess,
		'validateAuth.onSuccess': validateAuth_onSuccess,
		'validateAuth.onFailure': validateAuth_onFailure,
		'reload': function() { window.location.reload(); }
	});

	this.url = Dsq.Urls.REPLY +
		'?' + (new Date()).getTime() +
		'&f=jackandjillpolitics' +
		'&t=let8217s_talk_about_the_8220i8221_word' +
		'&ff=' + Dsq.Thread.ff +
		'&default_text=' + disqus_default_text +
		'&ifrs=' + encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css);
	if (this.parent_post_id) {
		this.url += '&parent_post=' + this.parent_post_id;
	}
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype = new Dsq.NewFrames(Dsq.ReplyFrame.url);

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.post = function(author_name, author_email, author_url, authenticate, sharing_services, subscribe) {
	this._execute('postComment', [author_name, author_email, author_url, authenticate, sharing_services, subscribe]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.edit = function(post_id, message) {
	this._execute('editComment', [post_id, message]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.setState = function(parent_post_id, depth) {
	this._execute('setState', [parent_post_id, depth]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.getUserByEmail = function(email) {
	this._execute('getUserByEmail', [email]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.validateAuth = function(auth_choice, email, username, password) {
	this._execute('validateAuth', [auth_choice, email, username, password]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.authenticateFacebook = function(session, forum_url) {
	this._execute('authenticateFacebook', [session, forum_url]);
};

	Dsq.Facebook = function() {
	var that = this;

	var handleSessionData = function(session) {

		var forum_url = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;




		if (typeof disqus_facebook_forum != 'undefined') {
			forum_url = disqus_facebook_forum;
		}
		Dsq.frames.reply_0.authenticateFacebook(session, forum_url);
	};

	var onLogin = function() {
		FB.Connect.getSignedPublicSessionData(handleSessionData);
	};

	this.login = function() {
		FB.Connect.requireSession(onLogin, true);
	};
};
Dsq.Facebook = new Dsq.Facebook();


	






Dsq.Themes = {};

Dsq.Themes.narcissus = new function() {
	this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-form-area';
	this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-textarea-wrapper';



	
	this.header = function() {
		var comments_count, total_posts, num_posts;
		var html = '';
		var missing_perm_tmpl;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.missing_perm) {
			missing_perm_tmpl = Dsq.Templates.missingPermissions();
			if (missing_perm_tmpl) {
				html += '<div class="dsq-missing-permissions">' + missing_perm_tmpl + '</div>';
			}
		}

		total_posts = Dsq.jsonData.thread.total_posts;
		num_posts = Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_posts;

		if (total_posts) {
			comments_count = Dsq.FmtStrings.SHOWING_COMMENTS_FULL(total_posts, num_posts);
		} else {
			comments_count = Dsq.FmtStrings.SHOWING_COMMENTS_WITHOUT_PAGINATION(num_posts);
		}

		html += ' \
		<div id="dsq-comments-title"> \
			<h3>' + comments_count + '</h3> \
		</div> \
		';

		html += ' \
		<div class="dsq-options"> \
			<span class="dsq-item-sort">'
				+ Dsq.Strings.SORT_BY + ' \
				<select id="dsq-sort-select" onchange="Dsq.Thread.sortBy(this.value);"> \
					<option value="hot" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 4 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.POPULAR_NOW + '</option> \
					<option value="best" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 3 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.BEST_RATING + '</option> \
					<option value="newest" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 2 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.NEWEST_FIRST + '</option> \
					<option value="oldest" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 1 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.OLDEST_FIRST + '</option> \
				</select> \
				&nbsp; \
			</span> \
			<span class="dsq-subscribe-email"> \
				<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/email.png" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle"> \
				<span id="dsq-subscribe">'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.subscribed
						? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(0); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.UNSUBSCRIBE + '</a>'
						: '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_EMAIL + '</a>')
				+ '</span> \
			</span> \
			<span class="dsq-subscribe-rss" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle"> \
				<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/bullet-feed.png" alt="" /> \
				<a href="http://jackandjillpolitics.disqus.com/let8217s_talk_about_the_8220i8221_word/latest.rss">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_RSS + '</a> \
			</span> \
		</div> \
		';

		
		

		return html;

	};
	
	this.footer = function() {
		var html = '';

		html += Dsq.Templates.pagination();

		
		
			html += Dsq.Templates.realtime();
			html += Dsq.Templates.showThreadSettings();
			html += Dsq.Templates.postBox();

		html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
		


		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator) {
 			html += ' \
				<div class="dsq-global-moderator-extras">'
					+ '<strong>shortname:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.forum.url
					+ '<strong>thread id:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.id
					+ '<strong>thread slug:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.slug
				+ '</div> \
			';
		}

		return html;
	};
	
	this.realtime = function() {
		var html = '';
		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			html += '<div id="dsq-realtime-options" class="dsq-options">'
					 + Dsq.Strings.REALTIME_UPDATING_IS + ' <strong id="dsq-realtime-status" style="text-transform: lowercase">' + Dsq.Strings.ENABLED + '</strong>. \
					 <a href="#" id="dsq-realtime-toggle" style="text-transform: capitalize"></a> \
					</div>';
		}

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
			html += ' \
				<div style="display: none" id="dsq-realtime-alert" class="dsq-realtime-alert"><span id="dsq-realtime-queued"></span> <a href="#" id="dsq-realtime-show"></a></div> \
			';
		}
		
		return html;
	};

	this.showThreadSettings = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '<div id="dsq-thread-settings" class="dsq-thread-settings">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATOR_OPTIONS;
		html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.showSettings(); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.SETTINGS + '</a>';
		if (Dsq.jsonData.forum.reactions_enabled && Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.reportMissingReactions(); return false;">'
						+ Dsq.Strings.REPORT_MISSING_REACTIONS
						+ '</a>';
		}
		html +='</div>';

		return html;
	};

	this.postBox = function(post_id, use_fallback_iframe) {


		var html;
		var display_sharing_options = Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated;

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post) {
			return '';
		}
		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote) {


			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.hasOwnProperty(Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain)) {
				display_sharing_options = false;
			}
		}
		
		if (post_id) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];				
		}
		
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';

		var _requestUserInfo = function() {
			var html;



			var user_has_email = false;

			html = '<div class="dsq-request-user-info"> <!-- // If authenticated --> \
				<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT + '?ctkn=' + Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN + '" class="dsq-request-user-logout">' + Dsq.Strings.LOGOUT + '</a> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td rowspan="2">'
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE + '">' : '')
								+ '<img src="' + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR + '" width="48" height="48" class="dsq-request-user-avatar">'
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '</a>' : '')
						+ '</td> \
						<td class="dsq-request-user-name">'
								+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
									 ? '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-' + Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain + '">' + Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain + '</span>'
									 : (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_verified
											? '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span>'
											: '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span>'))
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? ' <a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE + '">' : '') 
								+ Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username 
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '</a>' : '')
							+  (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && user_has_email ? ' <small>(<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.remoteAccountSettings(); return false;">change settings</a>)</small>' : '')
							+  (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? ' <small>(<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/info/" target="_blank">change name</a> or <a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/avatar/" target="_blank">picture</a>)</small>' : '')
						+ '</td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-request-user-stats"> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.comments_count + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.comments_count == 1 ? 'comment' : 'comments') + '</span> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.likes_count + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.likes_count == 1 ? 'like' : 'likes') + '</span> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.points + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.points == 1 ? 'point' : 'points') + '</span> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div> \
			';
			return html;
		};

		var _loginOptions = function() {
			var html;
			html = ' \
			<div class="dsq-authenticate"> \
				<p class="dsq-autheneticate-copy">'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
					? Dsq.Strings.YOU_ARE_COMMENTING_AS_A + ' <a class="dsq-help" title="Click for more information" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Guest</a>. ' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL + ': ' + Dsq.Strings.LOGIN_BELOW + '.'
					: Dsq.Strings.REQUIRED + ': ' + Dsq.Strings.PLEASE_LOGIN_BELOW_TO_COMMENT + '.')
				+ '</p> \
				<ul class="dsq-login-buttons">'
					+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-disqus.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Facebook.login(); return false;"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-facebook.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-twitter.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.requestURL(); return false" ><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-openid.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_yahoo ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Yahoo.startYahooConnect(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-yahoo.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
				+ '</ul> \
			</div> \
			';
			return html;
		};

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {


			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {



				return '<div id="dsq-form-area" style="display:none"><div id="dsq-textarea-wrapper"></div></div>' + _loginOptions();
			} else {
				return '';
			}
		}

		html = ' \
		<div id="' + (post_id 
			? 'dsq-reply-post-' + post_id
			: 'dsq-new-post')
		 	+ '" class="dsq-post-area"> \
			<div class="dsq-dc-logo"> \
				<a href="http://disqus.com/comments" target="_blank"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/disqus-logo.png"></a> \
			</div>'
			+ (post_id 
				? '<h3>' + Dsq.Strings.REPLYING_TO + ' ' + userData.display_name + '</h3>'
				: '<h3>' + Dsq.Strings.ADD_NEW_COMMENT + '</h3>')
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated 
				? _requestUserInfo()
				: _loginOptions() )
			+ '<div id="dsq-form-area' + pid + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-textarea"> \
				<div class="dsq-textarea-wrapper" id="dsq-textarea-wrapper' + pid + '"></div> \
			</div>'
			+ (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated
			? ' \
			<div class="dsq-post-fields"> \
				<form action="." method="GET" onsubmit="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, false); return false;"> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-left"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-name' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (disqus_def_name ? disqus_def_name : (Dsq.jsonData.session.name ? Dsq.jsonData.session.name : Dsq.Strings.NAME + '" class="dsq-placeholder')) + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'name\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'name\')" /></div></td> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-right"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-website' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (Dsq.jsonData.session.url ? Dsq.jsonData.session.url : Dsq.Strings.WEBSITE + ' (' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL.toLowerCase() + ')" class="dsq-placeholder') + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'website\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'website\')" /></div></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-left"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-email' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (disqus_def_email ? disqus_def_email : (Dsq.jsonData.session.email ? Dsq.jsonData.session.email : Dsq.Strings.EMAIL + '" class="dsq-placeholder')) + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'email\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'email\')" /></div></td> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-right"> \
							<div class="dsq-subscribe"> \
								<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.chooseSubscribe(' + post_id + '); return false" class="dsq-subscribe-menu"><span id="dsq-subscribe-select' + pid + '">' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.subscribe_on_post ? Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_TO_ALL_COMMENTS_BY_EMAIL : Dsq.Strings.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS) + '</span> <small>&#9660;</small></a> \
								<ul class="dsq-panel" id="dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid + '"> \
									<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.setSubscribe(2, this, ' + post_id + '); return false">Subscribe to all comments by email</a></li> \
									<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.setSubscribe(0, this, ' + post_id + '); return false">Do not subscribe to comments</a></li> \
								</ul> \
								<input id="dsq-subscribe-on-post' + pid + '" type="hidden" value="' + Dsq.jsonData.request.subscribe_on_post + '" /> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
				</form> \
			</div>'
			: '')
			+ '<div class="dsq-post-footer"> \
				<div class="dsq-sharing-options" ' + (!display_sharing_options ? 'style="display:none;"' : '') + '> \
					<button class="dsq-button-small" onfocus="document.getElementById(\'dsq-post-button' + pid + '\').focus();"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.SHARING_OPTIONS + ' <small>&#9660;</small></span></button> \
					<div class="dsq-panel"> '
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-twitter' + pid + '"'
								  + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-twitter' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Twitter</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook
								&& (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook.enabled === true ||
										(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'facebook'))
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-facebook' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-facebook' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Facebook</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-yahoo' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-yahoo' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Yahoo!</label> \
								</div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-tumblr' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-tumblr' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Tumblr</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-wordpress' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-wordpress' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Wordpress</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype !== undefined
							  && Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-movabletype' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-movabletype' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Movable Type</label> \
							   </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad !== undefined
							  && Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-typepad' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
								  <label for="dsq-sharing-typepad' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' TypePad</label> \
							   </div>'
							: '')
						+ '<div><a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/connections/" target="_blank" class="dsq-configure-options">' + Dsq.Strings.CONFIGURE_OPTIONS + '</a></div>'
					+ '</div> \
				</div>'
				+ '<button class="dsq-button" id="dsq-post-button' + pid + '" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, false)"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.POST_AS + ' '
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username
					? Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username
					: Dsq.Strings.GUEST)
				+ '</span></button>'
				+ (post_id
					? '<button class="dsq-button" id="dsq-cancel-button' + pid + '" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(' + post_id +', this)"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.CANCEL + '</span></button>'
					: '')
			+ '</div>'
			+ '</div>' // end dsq-form-area
		+ '</div> \
		';
		
		return html;
	};




	this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="dsq-append-post-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
		var html;
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		
		html = ' \
		<table> \
			<tr> \
				<td id="dsq-header-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-header-avatar" onmouseover="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')"> \
					<a id="dsq-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-avatar" href="' + userData.url + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.show_avatar
					? '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key].avatar + '" alt="" />'
					: '')
				+ '</a> \
				</td> \
				<td class="dsq-comment-header-meta"> \
		';

		
		return html;
	};
	
	this.postAppendHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var html;
		var parent_display_name = '';
		
		if(_meta.parent_post_id) {

			var _parent_meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[_meta.parent_post_id];

			if (_parent_meta) {
				var parentUserData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_parent_meta.user_key];
				parent_display_name = parentUserData.display_name;
			}
		}

		html = ' \
		<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png" class="dsq-moderator-star" title="Moderator" /> \
		<span class="dsq-comment-header-time"><a href="#comment-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.permalink(' + post_id + ')" title="Permalink">' + (_meta.is_realtime ? Dsq.Strings.JUST_NOW : _meta.date) + '</a></span> '
		+ (_meta.parent_post_id && parent_display_name
			? '<a href="#comment-' + _meta.parent_post_id + '" title="Jump to comment">in reply to ' + parent_display_name + '</a>'
			: '')
		+ '</td> \
		<td id="dsq-like-pts-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-comment-header-likes">'
		+ (_meta.points
			? _meta.points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(_meta.points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this.'
			: '')
		+ '</td> \
		</tr> \
		</table> \
		';
		return html;
	};

	this.preBody = function(post_id) {
		var html = '';
		return html;
	};

	this.postFooter = function(post_id) {
		var html;
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		if(_meta.killed || !_meta.approved) { return ''; }
		
		html = ' \
		<div class="dsq-comment-footer" id="dsq-comment-footer-' + post_id + '"> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer-left">'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator
					? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.moderateOptions(' + post_id+ '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATE + '</a>'
					: '')
				+ '<a href="#" id="dsq-post-report-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-post-report" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + post_id + ', false); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.FLAG + '</a> \
			</div> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer-right">'
				+ (_meta.votable 
					? '<span id="dsq-like-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-like">'
					+ (!_meta.up_voted
						? '<button class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Post.rate(this, ' + post_id + ', 1)" >Like</button>'
						: 'You liked this.&nbsp;&nbsp;')
					+ '</span>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply && !_meta.has_replies && _meta.from_request_user
					? '<button class="dsq-button-small dsq-post-edit" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + ')" >' + Dsq.Strings.EDIT + '</button>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply
					? '<span class="dsq-comment-footer-reply" id="dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(' + post_id +', this)"> \
						<button class="dsq-button-small">' + Dsq.Strings.REPLY + '</button> \
						<button class="dsq-comment-footer-reply-tab">' + Dsq.Strings.REPLY + '</button><span></span> \
					</span>'
					: '')
			+ '</div> \
		</div> \
		';
		
		return html;
	};



	
	this.showRetweets = function(id, limit, element_id /* Optional */) {
		var source, html = '';

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			if (reaction.id === id) {
				source = reaction.retweets;
			}
		}

		if (source) {
			if (limit === 0) {
				limit = source.length;
			}

			for (var j = 0; j < limit; j++) {
				var rt = source[j];
				html += '<a href="' + rt.url + '">' + rt.author_name + '</a>'	+ ((j === (limit - 1)) ? '.' : ', ');
			}
		}

		if (element_id === undefined) {
			return html;
		}

		var element = document.getElementById(element_id);
		element.innerHTML = html;
		return element;
	};

	this.showMoreReactions = function(reactions, has_more, start, limit) {
		var link = document.getElementById('dsq-show-more-reactions');
		var container = link.parentNode;
		container.removeChild(link);

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = reactions[i]; i++) {
			var el = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (el) {
				container.innerHTML += el;
			}
		}

		if (has_more) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = start;
			var l = limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			container.innerHTML += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions" class="dsq-show-more-reactions"><button class="dsq-button-small" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</button></li>';
		}
	};

	this.generateReactionHTML = function(reaction) {
		if (reaction.body === null || reaction.body == '') {
			return;
		}

		if (reaction.author_name === '') {
			reaction.author_name = '&nbsp;';
		}

		if (reaction.url === '') {
			reaction.url = reaction.get_service_url;
		}

		var item = '<li class="dsq-comment dsq-reaction" id="dsq-reaction-' + reaction.id + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-comment-header"> \
			<table> \
			<tr> \
			<td class="dsq-header-avatar"> \
			';

		if (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== '') {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="' + reaction.author_url +'" class="dsq-avatar">';
		}

		if (reaction.avatar_url && reaction.avatar_url !== '') {
			item += '<img src="' + reaction.avatar_url + '"/>';
		} else {

			item += '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/noavatar92.png"/>';
		}

		var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
		item += (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== ''
				? '</a>'
				: '')
			+ '</td>'
			+ '<td><cite class="dsq-comment-cite">' + reaction.author_name + '</cite> <span class="dsq-comment-header-time">' + reaction.date_created + '</span></td>'
			+ '<td class="dsq-comment-header-likes"></td>'
			+ '</tr></table></div>' // end dsq-comment-header
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-header" \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-reaction-header-left">'
							+ '<img class="dsq-service-icon" src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/reactions/services/' + service_icon + '.png" />'
							+ ' From <a class="dsq-service-name" target="_blank" href="' + reaction.url + '">' + reaction.get_service_name + '</a> '
							+ 'via ' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? '<a href="http://backtype.com/">BackType</a>' : '<a href="' + reaction.source_url + '">UberVU</a>')
						+ '</td>'
						+ '<td class="dsq-reaction-header-right">';
			
			if(reaction.retweets) {
				var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
				if (num_retweets > 0) {
					if (num_retweets == 1) {
						item += 'One more retweet from <a href="' + reaction.retweets[0].url + '">'  + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '</a>';
					} else {
						item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');
						item += '<span id="dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '">';
						var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 3) ? 3 : num_retweets;
						item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);
						if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
							item += '</span> <a onclick="Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(' + reaction.id + ', 0, \'dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '\');'
								+ 'this.parentNode.removeChild(this); return false;" href="#">Show all</a>';
						}
					}
				}
			}	
			item += '</td></tr> \
			</table> \
			</div>' // end dsq-reaction-header
			+ '<div class="dsq-comment-body"> \
				<div class="dsq-comment-message">' + reaction.body + '</div>'
			+ '</div> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer"> \
				<div class="dsq-comment-footer-left"> \
				</div>'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator 
					? ' \
					<div class="dsq-comment-footer-right"> \
						<button class="dsq-button-small dsq-hide-reaction" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.hide(' + reaction.id + ')">Hide</button> \
					</div>'
					: '')
			+ '</div>'
		item += '</li>'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
		return item;
	};

	this.reactions = function() {
		var html, reaction;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '';
		for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (item) {
				html += item;
			}
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
			var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			html += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions" class="dsq-show-more-reactions"><button class="dsq-button-small" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</button></li>';
		}

		return '<h3 id="dsq-reactions-title" class="dsq-h3-reactions">Reactions</h3><ul id="dsq-reactions" class="dsq-reactions">' + html + '</ul>';
	};
	
	this._popupGeneric = function(content) {
		return ' \
		<div class="dsq-popup-container"> \
			<table> \
				<tbody> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-tl"></td><td class="dsq-popup-b"></td><td class="dsq-popup-tr"></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-b"></td> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-body"> \
							<div class="dsq-popup-content"> \
								<div class="dsq-popup-title"> \
									<button class="dsq-button-small" style="float:right" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true)">Close</button>' 
									+ content['header'] 
								+ '</div>'
								+ content['body']
							+ '</div> \
							<div class="powered-by"><a href="http://disqus.com/comments/">Powered by <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-logo.png" alt="Disqus Comments" style="margin-bottom:-5px" /></a></div> \
						</td> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-b"></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-bl"></td><td class="dsq-popup-b"></td><td class="dsq-popup-br"></td> \
					</tr> \
				</tbody> \
			</table> \
		</div> \
		';
	};



	
	this.chooseSubscribe = function(post_id) {

		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var menu = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid);
		
		menu.style.display = menu.style.display == 'block' ? 'none' : 'block';
		
	};
	
	this.setSubscribe = function(value, el, post_id) {

		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var input = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-on-post' + pid);
		var select = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-select' + pid);
		var menu = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid);
		
		select.innerHTML = el.innerHTML;
		input.value = value;
		this.chooseSubscribe(post_id);
	};
	
	this.getFormFields = function(post_id) {

		var fields = {};
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var name = Dsq.$('dsq-field-name' + pid);
		var email = Dsq.$('dsq-field-email' + pid);
		var website = Dsq.$('dsq-field-website' + pid);
		var username = Dsq.$('dsq-field-username' + pid);
		var password = Dsq.$('dsq-field-password' + pid);

		fields = {
			'name': name,
			'email': email,
			'website': website,
			'username': username,
			'password': password
		}
		
		return fields;
	}
	
	this.validateFields = function(post_id) {
		
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) { return true; }
		
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		
		var nameField = fields.name;
		var websiteField = fields.website;
		var emailField = fields.email;
		
		websiteField.value = (websiteField.value == Dsq.Templates.placeholder['website']) ? '' : websiteField.value;
		
		var v = [{

			validator: Dsq.Validators.name,
			value: nameField.value
		}, {

			validator: Dsq.Validators.email,
			value: emailField.value
		}, {

			validator: Dsq.Validators.url,
			value: websiteField.value
		}];
		
		return Dsq.Validators.validate(v, function(e) { Dsq.Popup.popModal(e, 'Oops...') } );
	};
	
	this.checkExistingUser = function(post_id) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);		
		Dsq.Popup.loading(post_id);
		
		if (post_id) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].getUserByEmail(fields.email.value);
		} else {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].getUserByEmail(fields.email.value);
		}
	};

	this.validateAuth = function(el_clicked, post_id, auth_choice) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		var email = fields.email ? fields.email.value : '';
		var username = fields.username ? fields.username.value : '';
		var password = fields.password ? fields.password.value : '';
		
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
		
		if (post_id) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].validateAuth(auth_choice, email, username, password);
		} else {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].validateAuth(auth_choice, email, username, password);
		}
	};

	this.lightboxUpdateEmail = function(post_id, new_email) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		fields.email.value = new_email;
	};

	this.lightboxAuthenticate = function(post_id, auth_choice, auth_data) {
		var title, body;
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';

		if(typeof(auth_data) == 'undefined') {
			var auth_data = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		}

		d = auth_data;

		switch(auth_choice) {
			case 'register':
				var suggestedUsername = d.name.value.replace(/[^a-zA-Z0-9-]/g,'').toLowerCase();
			
				title = Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post ? 'Optional:' : 'Required:';
				title += ' Register a <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-profile.png" alt=Disqus Profile" />';

				body = ' \
				<ul class="dsq-lightbox-register-reasons"> \
				<li>Verify your comments</li> \
				<li>Edit and delete comments</li> \
				<li>Manage comments and replies</li> \
				</ul> \
				';

				body += ' \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-fields"> \
					<table> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Email</td> \
							<td><input type="text" value="' + d.email.value + '" onchange="Dsq.Templates.lightboxUpdateEmail(' + post_id + ', this.value)" /><div id="dsq-email-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Username</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-username' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + suggestedUsername + '"/><div id="dsq-username-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Password</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-password' + pid + '" type="password" /><div id="dsq-password-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
					</table> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-switch-auth"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(' + post_id + ',\'login\'); return false">Login instead</a></div> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid + '" class="dsq-lightbox-errors"></div> \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-submit"> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-post"><button class="dsq-button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.validateAuth(this, ' + post_id + ',\'' + auth_choice + '\')">Register and Post comment</button></div>'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
						? '<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-skip"><button class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, true)">Just post as a Guest</button></div>'
						: '')
				+ '</div> \
				';
				break;
			case 'login':
				title = Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post ? 'Optional:' : 'Required:';
				title += ' Login to your <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-profile.png" alt=Disqus Profile" />';
				body = '';
				
				if(d.avatar_url) {
					body += '<div class="dsq-lightbox-recognized"><table><tr>';
					body += '<td><img src="' + d.avatar_url + '" alt="" /></td>';
					body += '<td><span class="dsq-badge ' + (d.verified ? 'dsq-badge-verified' : 'dsq-badge-registered') + '">' + (d.verified ? 'Verified' : 'Registered') + '</span></td>';
					body += '<td>Hey <strong>' + d.display_name + '</strong>, is that you? Login below to claim this comment.';
					body += '</tr></table></div>';
				}

				body += ' \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-fields"> \
					<table> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Username or Email</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-username' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (d.avatar_url ? d.username : '') + '" /></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Password <a href="http://disqus.com/forgot" target="_blank">(cannot log in?)</a></td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-password' + pid + '" type="password" /></td> \
						</tr> \
					</table> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-switch-auth"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(' + post_id + ',\'register\'); return false">Register instead</a></div> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid + '" class="dsq-lightbox-errors"></div> \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-submit"> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-post"><button class="dsq-button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.validateAuth(this, ' + post_id + ',\'' + auth_choice + '\')">Login and Post comment</button></div>'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
						? '<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-skip"><button class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, true)">Just post as a Guest</button></div>'
						: '')
				+ '</div> \
				';
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}
		Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
		Dsq.$('dsq-field-username' + pid).focus();
	};
	
	this.buttonsToRestore = [];
	this.setLoadingButton = function(btn, post_id) {
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		if (btn) {

			var loadingBtn = document.createElement('button');
			loadingBtn.id = btn.id + '-loading';
			loadingBtn.innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-lite.gif" alt="" /> Just a moment...';
			loadingBtn.className = btn.className + ' dsq-post-loading';
			btn.parentNode.appendChild(loadingBtn);
			btn.style.display = 'none';
			var cancelBtn = Dsq.$('dsq-cancel-button' + pid);
			if(cancelBtn) { cancelBtn.style.display = 'none'; this.buttonsToRestore.push(cancelBtn); }
			this.buttonsToRestore.push(btn);
		} else {

			var buttons = this.buttonsToRestore;
			for(var i = 0; i < buttons.length; i++) {
				buttons[i].style.display = 'inline';
				Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$(buttons[i].id + '-loading'));
			}
		}
		
	};

	this.postComment = function(post_id, el_clicked, force, auth_choice) {
		var append_id = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);

		if (Dsq.Templates.validateFields(post_id)) {

			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && !force &&
				((!Dsq.Utils.readCookie('skipped_auth') && !disqus_skip_auth && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled) || !Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post)) {
				Dsq.Templates.checkExistingUser(post_id);
				return false;
			}
			var params = [];
			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
				params.push(fields.name.value,
					fields.email.value,
					fields.website.value);

				if (auth_choice == 'login' || auth_choice == 'register') {
					params.push({
						auth_choice: auth_choice,
						username: fields.username.value,
						password: fields.password.value,
						email: fields.email.value
					});
				} else {
					params.push(null);
				}

				params.push(null /* sharing options */, Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-on-post' + append_id).value);
			} else {
				var service_checked = function(name) {
					var el = Dsq.$('dsq-sharing-' + name + append_id);
					return (el !== null && el.checked === true) ? '1' : '0';
				};
				params.push(null, null, null, null, {
					tw: service_checked('twitter'),
					fb: service_checked('facebook'),
					tr: service_checked('tumblr'),
					wp: service_checked('wordpress'),
					mt: service_checked('movabletype'),
					tp: service_checked('typepad'),
					yh: service_checked('yahoo')
				});
			}

			var frame = Dsq.frames['reply_' + (post_id ? post_id : 0)];
			frame.post.apply(frame, params);

			if (el_clicked) {
				Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
			}
			
			if (force) {
				Dsq.Utils.createCookie('skipped_auth', true);	
			}
			
		} else {
			return false;
		}
	};

	this.editComment = function(el_clicked, post_id) {
		var edited_message = Dsq.$('dsq-edit-textarea-' + post_id).value;

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
		Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].edit(post_id, edited_message);
	};

	this.toggleEdit = function(post_id) {
		var body = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-body-' + post_id);
		var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);

		if (!Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id]) {


			message.style.display = 'none';
			if (Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id)) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id).style.display = 'block';
			} else {

				var edit_area = document.createElement('div');
				edit_area.id = 'dsq-edit-' + post_id;
				edit_area.className = 'dsq-edit dsq-textarea';
				edit_area.innerHTML = ' \
				<div class="dsq-textarea-wrapper"> \
					<textarea class="dsq-edit-textarea" id="dsq-edit-textarea-' + post_id + '">' + message.innerHTML + '</textarea> \
				</div> \
				<div class="dsq-save-edit"> \
					<button onclick="Dsq.Templates.editComment(this, ' + post_id + ')" class="dsq-button-small">Save Edit</button> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-edit-iframe-' + post_id + '" style="display: none"></div> \
				';

				body.appendChild(edit_area);

				if (!Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id]) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$('dsq-edit-iframe-' + post_id), post_id);
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].init();
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].setState(post_id, _meta.depth);
				}
			}
		} else {

			message.style.display = 'block';
			Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id).style.display = 'none';
		}
		
		Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id] = !Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id];
	};
	
	this.edit = function(el, post_id) {

		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
	};

	this.toggleReply = function(post_id, button) {
		
		if(!this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]) {

			if (Dsq.$('dsq-reply-post-' + post_id)) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).style.display = 'block';
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.postBox(post_id);
				var container = Dsq.$('dsq-textarea-wrapper-' + post_id);
				if (!Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id] && container) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(container, post_id);
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].init(function() {

						Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.postBox(post_id, true);
						Dsq.$('dsq-form-area-' + post_id).innerHTML = '';

						var theme = (typeof disqus_frame_theme == 'undefined') ? 'default' : disqus_frame_theme;
						Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-form-area-' + post_id), post_id, {theme: theme});

					});
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].setState(post_id, _meta.depth);
				}
			}
			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-append-post';
			Dsq.$('dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-comment-footer-reply-active';
			
		} else {

			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).style.display = 'none';
			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).className = '';
			Dsq.$('dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-comment-footer-reply';
		}
		
		this.stateReplyToggled[post_id] = !this.stateReplyToggled[post_id];

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie && this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]) {

		}

		Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED, {
			postId: post_id,
			opened: this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]
		});
	};
	
	this.moderateOptions = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		
		if(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator && !Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator) { return false; }

		var html;
		
		html = ' \
		<div class="dsq-moderate-options"> \
		<table>'
		+ (_meta.email ? '<tr><td>Email</td><td>' + _meta.email + '</td></tr>' : '')
		+ (_meta.ip ? '<tr><td>IP address</td><td>' + _meta.ip + '</td></tr>' : '')
		+ '<tr> \
			<td>Actions</td> \
			<td><ul>'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.moderator_can_edit
				? '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Edit Comment</a></li>'
				: '')
			+ '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.removePost(' + post_id + ', 1); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Delete Comment</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.reportSpam(' + post_id + '); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Mark Spam</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.blacklist(' + post_id + '); return false">Block User</a></li> \
			</ul></td> \
			</table> \
		</div> \
		';
		
		html += '<p>Go to the full <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/moderate/" target="_blank">moderate panel</a> for more options.</p>';
		
		return Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, 'Moderate Options', post_id);
	};
	
	this.placeholder = {
		'class': 'dsq-placeholder',
		'name': Dsq.Strings.NAME,
		'email': Dsq.Strings.EMAIL,
		'website': Dsq.Strings.WEBSITE + ' (' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL.toLowerCase() + ')'
	};
	
	this.handlePlaceholder = function(evt, el, key) {
		var placeholder = Dsq.Templates.placeholder[key];
		var className = Dsq.Templates.placeholder['class'];
		
		switch(evt.type) {
			case 'focus':
				if(el.value == placeholder) {
					el.value = '';
					el.className = '';
				}
				break;

			case 'blur':
				if(el.value == '') {
					el.value = placeholder;
					el.className = className;
				}
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}
	};
	
	this.paginate = function(page, el_clicked) {

		var extra_params = '';

		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&per_page=' + disqus_per_page;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_sort != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&sort=' + disqus_sort;
		}

		Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML += '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
		
		if(el_clicked) {
			Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked);
		}
		
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'let8217s_talk_about_the_8220i8221_word'
			+ '&p='		+ page
			+ extra_params);
	};
	
	
	this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {


		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
			if(vote == 1) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-like-' + id).innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
			}
			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/vote.js'
				+ '?post_id='    + id
				+ '&vote='        + vote);
		} else {
			Dsq.Popup.login('To rate, please log in');
		}
	};

	this.voted = function(post_id, points, vote) {

		Dsq.$('dsq-like-pts-' + post_id).innerHTML = points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this.';

		if(vote) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-like-' + post_id).innerHTML = 'You liked this.&nbsp;&nbsp;';
		}
	};




	this.postComment_onSuccess = function(response, parent_post_id, post_id) {
		var approved = response.message.post_meta.approved;

		if (parent_post_id) {
			Dsq.Post.toggleReply(parent_post_id);
		}

		Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
		
		if (approved) {
			Dsq.Post.incrementPostCount();
			Dsq.Post.outlineComment(post_id);
		} else {			
			var unapproved_msg = 'Thanks for posting!\
	 Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.\
			';
			Dsq.Popup.popModal(unapproved_msg, 'Comment awaiting approval', post_id);
		}

		var sharing_results = response.message.sharing_results;
		var sharing_errors = '';
		for (var service in sharing_results) {
			if (sharing_results.hasOwnProperty(service) === true) {
				if (sharing_results[service].error === true) {
					sharing_errors += service + ', ';
				}
			}
		}

		if (sharing_results.facebook && sharing_results.facebook.callback) {
			FB.ensureInit(function() {
				FB.Connect.streamPublish('', sharing_results.facebook.attachment);
			});
		}

		if (sharing_errors !== '') {
			var message = 'Your comment was posted, but there were errors sharing with the following connections: ';
			message += sharing_errors.replace(/,\s$/, '');
			message += '<p><a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/connections" target="_blank">Configure your connections here</a></p>'
			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, 'Sharing options');
		}

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	this.postComment_onFailure = function(response, parent_post_id, post_id) {

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};
};




// TODO: It might be faster to use string methods to find all <li (...) </li> blocks and pass to Dsq.PostHandler manually.
Dsq.CommentsHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_post = Dsq.Templates.prependPost(post_id);
	var append_post = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(post_id);

	content = content.replace(Dsq.POST_RE, Dsq.PostHandler);
	Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter++;
	head = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContainer(post_id, head);
	return prepend_post + head + content + tail + append_post;
};

Dsq.PostHandler = function(str, h_head, post_id, h_content, h_tail, b_head, b_content, b_tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_header = Dsq.Templates.postPrependHeader(post_id);
	var append_header = Dsq.Templates.postAppendHeader(post_id);
	var prepend_body = Dsq.Templates.preBody(post_id);
	var append_body = Dsq.Templates.postBody(post_id);
	var append_footer = Dsq.Templates.postFooter(post_id);

	b_content = b_content.replace(Dsq.POST_BODY_RE, Dsq.PostBodyHandler);
	return h_head + prepend_header + h_content + append_header + h_tail + b_head + prepend_body + b_content + append_body + b_tail + append_footer;
};

Dsq.PostBodyHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	content = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContent(post_id, content);
	return head + content + tail;
};

Dsq.MediaPostHandler = function(str, args, offset, s) {
	args = args.split(' ');
	if(args[0] == 'seesmic') {
		return '<br />' + Dsq.Templates.mediaSeesmic(args[1], args[2]);
	}
	return '';
};


/**
 * Shorcuts
 */
Dsq.$ = function(element) { return document.getElementById(element); };
Dsq.$b = document.body || document.getElementsByTagName('body')[0];


/**
 * Dsq.Debug: Logging functions.
 */

Dsq.Debug = new function() {this.log=function(s){};this.profile=function(f){if(typeof f == 'function')return f();else return eval(f);};};


/**
 * Dsq.Urls: URL paths
 */
Dsq.Urls = new function() {
	this.LOGIN = '/profile/login/';
	this.LOGOUT = '/logout/';
	this.REPLY = 'http://jackandjillpolitics.disqus.com/let8217s_talk_about_the_8220i8221_word/reply.html';
	this.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE = '/AnonymousUser/';
	this.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR = 'http://media.disqus.com/images/noavatar92.png';
};
// Dsq.Urls

/**
 * Dsq.Validators: Validation for form fields
 */
Dsq.Validators = new function() {
	this.VALID_EMAIL_RE = /^[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*\@(([a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*)+\.[a-z]{2,}|([0-9]+\.){3}[0-9]+)$/i;
	this.name = function(name) {
		var error = false;

		if(typeof Dsq.Templates.placeholder !== 'undefined' &&
		   name == Dsq.Templates.placeholder.name) {
			error = true;
		}
		if(name.length <= 1) {
			error = true;
		}

		if(error) {
			return "Please enter a name to comment.";
		} else {
			return true;
		}
	};
	this.email = function(addr) {
		if(Dsq.Validators.VALID_EMAIL_RE.test(addr)) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please enter a valid email to comment.";
		}
	};
	this.url = function(addr) {
		if(!addr || addr.indexOf('.') != -1) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please check your website URL (this field is optional).";
		}
	};

	this.validate = function(bulk_validation, failure_callback) {
		failure_callback = failure_callback || function(e){ alert(e); };

		for(var i = 0; i < bulk_validation.length; i++) {
			v = bulk_validation[i];
			ret = v.validator(v.value);
			if(ret !== true) {
				failure_callback(ret);
				return false;
			}
		}
		return true;
	};
};

/**
 * Dsq.Utils: Generic utility functions.
 */
Dsq.Utils = new function() {
	this.ie = /msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent);
	this.ie7 = (document.all && !window.opera && window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true : false;
	this.ie6 = (!window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true: false;
	this.webkit = navigator.userAgent.indexOf('AppleWebKit/') >= 0;
	this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache = {};
	this._styleSheet = null;

	this.gebiFromElement = function(el, id, tag) {
		// This only method only helps IE.
		if(!this.ie) {
			return Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var cacheKey = el.id + '-' + tag;
			tag = tag || 'div';
			if(typeof this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] != 'undefined') {
				collection = this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey];
			} else {
				collection = el.getElementsByTagName(tag);
				this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] = collection;
			}

			for(var i = 0; i < collection.length; i++) {
				if(collection[i].id == id) {
					return collection[i];
				}
			}
			return null;
		}
	};

	this.execOnReady = function(func) {
		var node = document.createElement('document:ready');
		try {
			node.doScroll('left');
			func();
			node = null;
		} catch(err) {
			setTimeout(function() { Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(func); }, 10);
		}
	};


	// Courtesy of http://www.quirksmode.org/js/cookies.html
	this.createCookie = function(name,value,days) {
		if (days) {
			var date = new Date();
			date.setTime(date.getTime()+(days*24*60*60*1000));
			var expires = "; expires="+date.toGMTString();
		}
		else var expires = "";
		document.cookie = name+"="+value+expires+"; path=/";
	};

	this.readCookie = function(name) {
		var nameEQ = name + "=";
		var ca = document.cookie.split(';');
		for(var i=0;i < ca.length;i++) {
			var c = ca[i];
			while (c.charAt(0)==' ') c = c.substring(1,c.length);
			if (c.indexOf(nameEQ) == 0) return c.substring(nameEQ.length,c.length);
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.eraseCookie = function(name) {
		Dsq.Utils.createCookie(name,"",-1);
	};

	this.deleteNode = function(node) {
		if(node) {
			this.deleteChildren(node);
			if(typeof node.outerHTML != 'undefined') { node.outerHTML = ''; }
			else if(node.parentNode) { node.parentNode.removeChild(node); }
			delete node;
		}
	};

	this.deleteChildren = function(node) {
		if(node) {
			for(var x = node.childNodes.length-1; x >= 0; x--) {
				var childNode = node.childNodes[x];
				if(childNode.hasChildNodes()) { this.deleteChildren(childNode); }
				if(typeof childNode.outerHTML != 'undefined') { childNode.outerHTML = ''; }
				else node.removeChild(childNode);
				delete childNode;
			}
		}
	};

	this.findPos = function(obj) {
		var curleft = 0;
		var curtop = 0;
		if (obj.offsetParent) {
			do {
				curleft += obj.offsetLeft;
				curtop += obj.offsetTop;
			} while (obj = obj.offsetParent);
		}
		return [curleft,curtop];
	};

	this.getWindowSize = function() {
		var windowWidth = -1;
		var windowHeight = -1;

		if(typeof(window.innerWidth) == 'number') { //Non-IE
			windowWidth = window.innerWidth;
			windowHeight = window.innerHeight;
		} else if(document.documentElement) { // IE 6+ in 'standards compliant mode'
			windowWidth = document.documentElement.clientWidth || document.body.clientWidth;
			windowHeight = document.documentElement.clientHeight || document.body.clientHeight;
		}

		return [windowWidth, windowHeight];
	}

	this.getScrollPos = function() {
		var scrollWidth, scrollTop;

		if(document.documentElement && (document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.documentElement.scrollWidth)) {
			scrollWidth = document.documentElement.scrollWidth;
			// IE is weird here.  If no doctype is provided, document.body.scrollTop is 0,
			// otherwise document.documentElement.scrollTop is 0.
			scrollTop = document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.body.scrollTop;
		} else if(document.body.scrollTop && document.body.scrollWidth) {
			scrollWidth = document.body.scrollWidth;
			scrollTop = document.body.scrollTop;
		}

		return [scrollWidth, scrollTop];
	}

	this.addEventListener = function(instance, eventName, listener) {
		var listenerFn = listener;
		if (instance.addEventListener) {
			instance.addEventListener(eventName, listenerFn, false);
		} else if (instance.attachEvent) {
			listenerFn = function() {
				listener(window.event);
			};
			instance.attachEvent("on" + eventName, listenerFn);
		} else {
			throw new Error("Event registration not supported");
		}
		return {
			instance: instance,
			name: eventName,
			listener: listenerFn
		};
	};

	this.removeEventListener = function(event) {
		var instance = event.instance;
		if (instance.removeEventListener) {
			instance.removeEventListener(event.name, event.listener, false);
		} else if (instance.detachEvent) {
			instance.detachEvent("on" + event.name, event.listener);
		}
	};

	this.fixIframesIE = function(id) {
		var disqusThread = Dsq.$(disqus_container_id);
		var iframes = disqusThread.getElementsByTagName('iframe');

		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-content');
		}

		for(i = 0; i < iframes.length; i++) {
			if (container) {
				iframes[i].style.width = container.offsetWidth;
			}
		}
	};

	this.getElementsByClassName = function(oElm, strTagName, strClassName) {
	/* Credit: Jonathan Snook [http://www.snook.ca/jonathan], Robert Nyman [http://www.robertnyman.com] */
		var arrElements = (strTagName == "*" && oElm.all)? oElm.all : oElm.getElementsByTagName(strTagName);
		var arrReturnElements = new Array();
		strClassName = strClassName.replace(/\-/g, "\\-");
		var oRegExp = new RegExp("(^|\\s)" + strClassName + "(\\s|$)");
		var oElement;
		for(var i = 0; i < arrElements.length; i++) {
			oElement = arrElements[i];
			if(oRegExp.test(oElement.className)) {
				arrReturnElements.push(oElement);
			}
		}
		return (arrReturnElements);
	};

	this.postToUrl = function(url, post_data, opt_redirect) {
		var form = document.createElement('form');
		var iframe_container = document.createElement('div');
		var id = 'dsq-temp-iframe-' + (new Date()).getTime();

		form.method = 'POST';
		form.action = url;
		if (!opt_redirect) {
			form.target = id;
		}
		iframe_container.innerHTML = '<iframe style="display:none" name="' + id + '" id="' + id + '"></iframe>';

		for(var key in post_data) {
			if(post_data.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var input = document.createElement('input');
				input.name = key;
				input.type = 'hidden';
				input.value = post_data[key];

				form.appendChild(input);
			}
		}

		Dsq.$b.appendChild(iframe_container);
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(form);
		form.submit();
	};

	// Strips integer id from id of element in the form ('some-id-###')
	this.extractId = function(e) {
		var chunks = e.id.split('-');
		if(chunks.length <= 1) {
			return 0;
		} else {
			return parseInt(chunks[chunks.length-1]);
		}
	};

	this.getStyle = function(el, styleProp) {
		if(el.currentStyle) {
			var y = el.currentStyle[styleProp];
		} else if(window.getComputedStyle) {
			var y = document.defaultView.getComputedStyle(el, null).getPropertyValue(styleProp);
		}

		if(y == 'transparent' || y == '') {
			this.getStyle(el.parentNode, styleProp);
		} else {
			return y;
		}
	};

	this.execScript = function(url, append_qs, container) {
		var script = document.createElement('script');
		append_qs = typeof append_qs == 'undefined' ? true : append_qs;
		container = container || Dsq.container;

		if(append_qs) {
			var j = (url.indexOf('?') >= 0) ? '&' : '?';
			url += j + (new Date()).getTime();
		}
		script.type = 'text/javascript';
		script.charset = 'UTF-8';
		script.src = url;
		container.appendChild(script);
		return script;
	};

	this.pluralize = function(num, singular, plural) {
		return (num != 1) ? plural || 's' : singular || '';
	};

	this.getRequestParams = function(queryString /* optional */) {
		var pairs, tuple;
		var params = {};

		queryString = queryString || window.location.search.substring(1);
		pairs = queryString.split('&');

		for (var i = 0, pair; pair = pairs[i]; i++) {
			tuple = pair.split('=');
			params[tuple[0]] = (tuple[1] || true);
		}

		return params;
	};

	this.addCssRule = function(selector, styleText, index) {
		var stylesheet;
		index = index || 0;

		if(!this._styleSheet) {
			var styleEl = document.createElement('style');
			document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(styleEl);
			this._styleSheet = styleEl.sheet;
			if(!this._styleSheet) {
				// IE does not like our newly created stylesheet.
				this._styleSheet = document.styleSheets[document.styleSheets.length-1];
			}
		}
		stylesheet = this._styleSheet;

		if(stylesheet.insertRule) {
			var ruleText = selector + ' { ' + styleText + ' }';
			if(index == -1) {
				index = stylesheet.cssRules.length;
			}
			stylesheet.insertRule(ruleText, index);
		} else if(stylesheet.addRule) {
			stylesheet.addRule(selector, styleText, index);
		}
	};

	this.forEachIn = function(obj, callback) {
		for(var key in obj) {
			if(obj.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				callback(key, obj[key]);
			}
		}
	};

	this._interpolateGlobalContext = {
		// values that get used a lot and are global to the request
		'profile_url': Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE,

		'disqus_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url,
		'media_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.media_url,
		'request_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.username,
		'request_display_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username,
		'forum_name': Dsq.jsonData.forum.name
	};

	this.renderFromContextStack = function(key, contexts) {
		// Returns the first instance of `key` in the array of objects `contexts` or else ''
		for (var i=0; i<contexts.length; i++) {
			if (contexts[i][key] !== undefined) {
				return String(contexts[i][key]);
			}
		}
		throw new Error('key ' + key + ' not found in context');
	};

	var that = this;
	this.interpolate = function(fmt, opt_localContext) {
		// Interpolate `fmt` named-format string with an assumed global context.
		// Based on `interpolate` in django.views.i18n
		var contextStack = [opt_localContext || {}, that._interpolateGlobalContext];
		return fmt.replace(/%\(\w+\)s/g, function(match){
			return that.renderFromContextStack(match.slice(2,-2), contextStack);
		});
	};

	this.stripTags = function(s) {
		// Removes HTML tags from `s`
		return s.replace(/(<([^>]+)>)/g,"");

	};

	this.assert = function(b) {
		if (!b) {
			throw new Error('Assertion error.');
		}
	};

};
// Dsq.Utils

/**
 * Dsq.Popup: Popup helper functions.
 */
Dsq.Popup = new function() {
	this.timeHide = new Array();
	this.timeShow = new Array();
	this.activePopup = {};
	this.profileCache = {};
	this.statusCache = {};

	this.showTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the hide timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeHide[post_id]);

		// start the timer
		if(!Dsq.Popup.profileIsOn && !Dsq.Thread.adminIsOn) {
			this.timeShow[post_id] = setTimeout("Dsq.Popup.popProfile(\"" + post_id + "\")", 400);
		}
	};

	this.hideTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the show timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeShow[post_id]);
	};

	this.updateProfile = function(username) {
		// Callback from /embed/profile.js
		if (this.statusCache[username]) {
			var statusEl = Dsq.$('dsq-profile-status-' + username);
			statusEl.innerHTML = this.statusCache[username];
			statusEl.style.display = 'block';
		}

		if (this.profileCache[username]) {
			var _cache = this.profileCache[username];

			var _genhtml = function(text) { return '<span><big>' + text + '</big></span>'; };
			var _no_comments = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_COMMENTS(_cache.comments_count));
			var _no_likes = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_LIKES(_cache.likes_count));
			var _no_points = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_POINTS(_cache.points));

			var statsEl = Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + username);
			statsEl.innerHTML = '';

			if (Dsq.jsonData.users[username].registered) {
				statsEl.innerHTML = _no_comments + _no_likes;
			}
			statsEl.innerHTML += _no_points;

			var activeSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.active_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.active_sites[i];
				activeSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (activeSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = activeSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = 'This site.';
			}

			var moderatedSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.moderated_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.moderated_sites[i];
				moderatedSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (moderatedSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + username).innerHTML = moderatedSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + username).innerHTML = '';
			}
		}

		// Reposition popup after full HTML is rendered
		if(Dsq.Popup.activePopup && Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el) {
			Dsq.Popup.initPopup(Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.type);
		}

	};

	this.showCookieMsgs = function() {
		var title = '';
		var message = '';
		var numAlerts = 0;

		Dsq.Utils.forEachIn(Dsq.jsonData.cookie_messages, function(k, v) {
			if (!v) return;

			switch(k) {
				// Cookie: Twitter
				case 'post_twitter':
					if (v === 'error') {
						title = 'Twitter Error!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-error">Oops, we couldn\'t tweet this comment. Please check your <a href="http://disqus.com/account/services">account settings</a>.</li>';
					} else {
						var _msg = v.split(':');
						title = 'Tweeted!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-success">Your comment was successfully tweeted. <a href="http://twitter.com/' + _msg[0] + '/status/' + _msg[1] + '">Click here to view the tweet</a>.</li>';
					}
					break;
				// Cookie: Unapproved Post
				case 'post_not_approved':
					title = 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-not-approved">Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.</li>';
					break;
				// Cookie: Profile Found
				case 'post_has_profile':
					title = 'Use your existing commenter profile';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-has-profile">You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a></li>';
					break;
				case 'user_created':
					var _data = v.split(':');
					title = 'Profile created!';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-user-created">You have just created a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, the best way to claim, manage, and track your comments all over the web. \
					<br /><br />A confirmation is being sent to <strong>' + _data[1] + '</strong>. Please check for this email in order to verify your profile. \
					<ul class="dsq-list-tick"> \
						<li>Your username is <strong>' + _data[0] +'</strong>. <a href="http://disqus.com/people/' + _data[0] + '/" target="_blank">Click here to view your public profile</a>.</li> \
						<li>Be sure to set your profile picture, as well as connect your <span class="dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> and <span class="dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> accounts. <a href="http://disqus.com/account/" target="_blank">Click here for account settings</a>.</li> \
					</ul> \
					</li>'
					break;
				default:
					break;
			}
			numAlerts++;
		});

		if(numAlerts > 1) {
			message = '<ul class="dsq-list-bluebullet">' + message;
			message += '</ul>';
			title = 'Thanks for posting!';
		}
		if(numAlerts > 0) {
			if(typeof(disqus_cookie_msgs) == 'function') {
				disqus_cookie_msgs(message, title);
			} else {
				Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
			}
		}
	};

	this.helpBadges = function(post_id) {
		var html = ' \
			<ul class="dsq-popup-help"> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile with a confirmed email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, but has not yet confirmed his or her email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span> is not logged in with any account and has not claimed his or her comments.</li> \
				<li class="dsq-help-otheraccts">Other accounts</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> is using his or her Facebook profile via Facebook Connect.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> is using his or her Twitter profile via Twitter Sign-in.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-openid">OpenID</span> is using his or her OpenID.</li> \
			</ul> \
		';

		this.popModal(html, 'Help: Types of Commenters', post_id);
		return;
	};

	this.permalink = function(post_id) {
		var header = 'Link to this comment';
		var body = '<strong>You are anchored to</strong>:<br />' + document.location.protocol + '//' + document.location.host + document.location.pathname + document.location.search + '#comment-' + post_id;

		this.popModal(body, header, post_id);
	};

	this.login = function(header, body) {
		var h = header || 'Login or Register';
		var b = body || '';
		b += Dsq.Templates.frameLogin({id: 'dsq-popup-login'});
		b += '</iframe>'; // HACK: Sometimes there is something funky with the IFRAME SRC that causes no end tag
		this.popModal(b, h, null, true, 'dsq-popup-login');
	};

	this.blacklist = function(id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		var title = 'Add to Blacklist';
		var message = ' \
		Adding this person to the blacklist will block him or her from commenting on this site. Check the following types that you would like to add to the blacklist:'
		+ (userData['registered'] ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-username" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-username"><strong>Username</strong>: ' + userData['username'] + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ (_meta.email ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-email" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-email"><strong>Email address</strong>: ' + _meta.email + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ '<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
			<input id="dsq-blacklist-ip" type="checkbox" onclick="Dsq.$(\'dsq-blacklist-ip-warning\').style.display=\'block\'"> \
			<label for="dsq-blacklist-ip"><strong>IP address</strong>: ' + _meta.ip + '</label> \
		</div> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p id="dsq-blacklist-ip-warning" style="display:none">	\
				Note: Blocking this person\'s IP address may also unintentionally prevent others, who share his/her IP address, from commenting on this site. \
				This may include people who are sharing the same computer, living in the same house, or using the same Internet provider. Only block an IP address as a last resort. \
			</p> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p style="text-align:center"><button onclick="Dsq.Post.blockUser(' + id + '); this.disabled=true; this.innerHTML=\'Just one moment...\'">Add to Blacklist</button></p> \
		';

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
	};

	this.remoteAccountSettings = function() {
		var body = '';
		// Set up IFrame.
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/_auth/embed/remote_settings/';
		var attributes = {id: 'dsq-popup-account-settings'};
		if (typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}

		body = Dsq.Templates._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
		this.popModal(body, 'Account Settings', null, true, 'dsq-popup-account-settings');
	};

	this.popModal = function(message, title, post_id, use_listener, extra_classes) {
		var container = document.createElement('div');
		var header, body;

		Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);

		if(typeof(title) == 'undefined') { title = ''; }
		if(typeof(use_listener) == 'undefined') { use_listener = true; }

		if(post_id) {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message-' + post_id;
		} else {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message';
		}

		header = title;
		body = message;

		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupModal(header, body);
		Dsq.Popup.initPopup(container, post_id, 'message', extra_classes);
		if(use_listener) {
			Dsq.Popup.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', Dsq.Popup._closePopup);
		}
	};

	this.popAlert = this.popModal;

	this.loading = function(post_id) {
		var title = Dsq.Strings.JUST_A_MOMENT;
		var body = '<div style="text-align:center; padding: 5px 0 10px 0"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif" alt="" /></div>'
		Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
	};

	this.lightbox = function(message, title, post_id) {
		// Wraps Dsq.Popup.popModal

		var overlay = document.createElement('div');
		overlay.id = 'dsq-overlay';
		overlay.className = 'dsq-overlay';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(overlay);
		
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, post_id, false, 'dsq-lightbox');
	};

	this.popProfile = function(post_id, userKey) {
		var post = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id];
		if (post && post.has_been_anonymized) {
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('This message was anonymized by its previous owner.', 'Anonymized', post_id);
			return;
		}

		if(post_id) {
			userKey = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id].user_key;	
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][userKey];
		var elId = 'dsq-popup-profile-' + userKey;
		var container = document.createElement('div');

		if(this.activePopup.el) {
			this._closePopup(null, true);
			if(this.activePopup.linkClicked) {
				this.activePopup.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		container.id = elId;
		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupProfile(userKey);

		this.initPopup(container, post_id, 'profile');
		this.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._closePopup);

		if(!this.profileCache[userKey]) {
			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/embed/profile.js'
				+ '?username=' + userKey
				+ '&anon=' + (userData['registered'] ? 0 : 1)
				+ '&f=' + Dsq.jsonData['request'].forum);
		} else {
			this.updateProfile(userKey);
		}
	};

	this._closePopup = function(e, force) {
		var activePopup = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el;
		var id = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id;
		var link = 'dsq-avatar-' + id; // HACK: Specific to profile toggle target

		// HACK: This event should be gone if there is no active popup.
		if(!activePopup) {
			return;
		}
		if(force || !Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, activePopup.id)) {
			// TODO: This is breaking iE?
			if(Dsq.Popup.popupListener) {
				Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Popup.popupListener);
			}
			
			// Kill overlay
			var overlay = Dsq.$('dsq-overlay');
			if(overlay) { Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(overlay); }
			
			try {
				Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(activePopup);
			} catch(e) {
				// HACK: IE6 throws an error when using deleteNode() with a node containing a <table> in the html.
				activePopup.parentNode.removeChild(activePopup);
			}
			Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {};
		}

		if(!force && Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Popup.activePopup.linkClicked = true;
		}

	};

	this.initPopup = function(popup, post_id, type, extra_classes) {
		popup.className = 'dsq-popup dsq-popup-' + type + ' ' + (extra_classes ? extra_classes : '');
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6 || Dsq.Utils.ie7) {
			// HACK: We can't modify the body before it's ready, so we need
			//       to use an IE-safe "DOMReady" workaround before loading
			//       our popup.
			Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(function() {Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup); });
		} else {
			Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup);
		}

		popup.style.display = 'block';

		var xPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[0] - popup.offsetWidth) / 2;
		var yPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[1] - popup.offsetHeight) / 2;

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) {
			yPos += Dsq.Utils.getScrollPos()[1];
		}

		popup.style.left = xPos + 'px';
		popup.style.top = yPos + 'px';

		Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {
			'el' : popup,
			'id' : post_id,
			'type': type,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};
	};

	this.isClicked = function(e, id) {
		var t = e.target || e.srcElement;
		while(t && t.parentNode) {
			if(t.id == id) {
				return true;
			}

			t = t.parentNode;
		}
		return false;
	};
};
// Dsq.Popup

/**
 * Dsq.Templates
 */
Dsq.Templates = new function() {
	/*
	 * Counter keeping track of the number of posts iterated over.
	 */
	this.postLoopCounter = 0;
	this.filters = {};
	this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-post-add';
	this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-post-add';

	this.registerTemplate = function(name, func) {
		this['$$_' + name] = func;

		if(typeof DsqLocal.Filters != 'undefined'
		&& typeof DsqLocal.Filters[name] == 'function') {
			// Push filters to this.filters to unify code.
			this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
			this.filters[name].push(DsqLocal.Filters[name]);
		}

		this[name] = function() {
			var ret;

			if(typeof DsqLocal.Templates != 'undefined'
			&& typeof DsqLocal.Templates[name] == 'function') {
				ret = DsqLocal.Templates[name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(ret === undefined) {
				ret = this['$$_' + name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(this.filters[name]) {
				var args = [ret];

				args.push.apply(args, arguments);
				for(var i = 0; i < this.filters[name].length; i++) {
					ret = this.filters[name][i].apply(this, args);
				}
			}

			return ret;
		};
	};

	this.registerFilter = function(name, func) {
		this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
		this.filters[name].push(func);
	};

	/**
	 * Dsq.Templates.Filters
	 */
	this.Filters = new function() {
		this.commentContainer = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			var classes = [];
			if(Dsq.jsonData.request.page > 1) {
				classes.push('dsq-append');
			}

			//
			// Extra classes used for custom themes
			//

			if(_meta.depth) {
				classes.push('dsq-comment-child', 'dsq-depth-' + _meta.depth, 'dsq-parent-is-' + _meta.parent_post_id);
			}


			//

			if(_meta.author_is_creator) {
				// TODO: We need to deprecate the "special" class since it is not properly prefixed.
				classes.push('special', 'dsq-special');
			}
			if(_meta.author_is_moderator) {
				classes.push('dsq-moderator');
			}
			classes.push(['dsq-odd', 'dsq-even'][Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter % 2]);

			s = s.substring(0, s.lastIndexOf('>'));
			return s + ' class="dsq-comment ' + classes.join(' ') + '" style="margin-left:' + _meta.depth*30 + 'px">';
		};

		this.commentContent = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			if (_meta.killed) {
				return '<em>Comment removed.</em>';
			} else if (!_meta.approved) {
				return '<em>This comment was flagged for review.</em>';
			}

			s = s.replace(Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE, Dsq.MediaPostHandler);
			return s;
		};
	};

	//
	// Thread
	//
	// TODO: These need to be stripped of all Django template tags.

	this.authPost = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {
			return '';
		}
		var result = [];
		result = result.concat([
				'<div id="dsq-auth"',
						Dsq.jsonData.integration.reply_position ? 'class="dsq-auth-bottom"' : '',
						'>',
					'<div class="dsq-by">',
						'<a href="http://disqus.com" target="_blank">',
							(Dsq.jsonData.integration.disqus_logo ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/by-disqus.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">') :
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/dsq-button-120x19.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">')
							),
						'</a>',
					'</div>',
					'<div class="dsq-auth-header">',
						'<h3 id="dsq-add-new-comment" class="dsq-h3-addcomment">',
								Dsq.Strings.ADD_NEW_COMMENT,
						'</h3>',
						'<div id="dsq-login">',
						(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
								? '<p class="dsq-login-message" id="dsq-login-message">You are commenting as a <a class="dsq-help" title="Click for more information" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Guest</a>. You may select one to log into:</p>'
								: '')
		]);
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			result = result.concat([
							Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
								'<a id="dsq-login-toggle" href="%(disqus_url)s%(login_url)s?next=article:%(thread_id)s" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false"><img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsq-profile-btn.png" title="%(log_into)s" alt="%(log_into)s"/></a>',
								{login_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGIN, thread_id: Dsq.jsonData.thread.id, log_into: Dsq.Strings.LOG_INTO_DISQUS}
								),
							'&nbsp; ',
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ?
								'<div id="dsq-fbc-login" onlogin="DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin()" size="medium" background="light" length="short" style="display:inline; margin-right:7px"></div>' :
								''
							),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-twitter-login" class="dsq-twitter-login" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect();" style="display:inline; cursor: pointer"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/twitter-signin-short.png" style="margin-right:7px" /></div>', {}) : ''),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-openid-login" class="dsq-openid-login" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.requestURL();" style="display:inline; cursor:pointer;"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/openid-login-button.png"/></div>', {}
								) : '')
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
						'</div>', // dsq-login
					'</div>', // dsq-auth-header
					'<div id="dsq-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated" ',
						Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated ? 'style="display:block"' : '',
						'>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-pic">',
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">' +
																			'<img class="dsq-post-avatar" src="%(avatar_url)s" alt="" /></a>',
																			{avatar_url: Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR,
																			url: (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
																					 ? Dsq.jsonData.request.url
																					 : Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE) }),
						'</div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>', {url:Dsq.jsonData.request.url})
										  )
										: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(profile_url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>')
											)
									),
								'</li>',
								'<li class="logout">',
									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsqicon12.png" alt="%(logged_in_as)s"/>&nbsp',
											{logged_in_as: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username)})
										: ''),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="%(logout_from_disqus)s">',
											{logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN, logout_from_disqus: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('DISQUS')})
										: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'twitter')
												? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using Twitter (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
												 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
												: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'openid')
													 ? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using OpenID (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
													 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
													 : ''
													)
											)
									),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote ? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('<span class="logo-disqus">DISQUS</span>') : ''),
									'</a>',
								'</li>',
							'</ul>',
						'</div>',
					'</div>'
		]);
		if (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect) {
			result = result.concat([
					'<div id="dsq-fbc-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated">',
						'<div id="dsq-fbc-profilepic" class="dsq-authenticated-pic" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.ProfilePic" size="square" facebook-logo="true"></div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									'Logged in as <span id="dsq-fbc-name" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.Name" linked="true" useyou="false"></span>',
								'</li>',
								'<li class="logout">using Facebook Connect <a href="#" onclick="javascript:DisqusFbcParentController.logout();return false;">(Logout)</a></li>',
							'</ul>',
						'</div>',
					'</div>'
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
				'</div>', // dsq-auth
				'<div id="dsq-toolbar-items">',
				'</div>'
		]);
		result = result.concat([
					//
					//
					//
				((!Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post && !Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) ?
					// Needs to be translated:
					('<p id="dsq-no-anon-msg">Required: Please log into <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> ' +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ? 'or connect with Facebook ' : '') +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ? 'or sign in with Twitter ' : '') +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? 'or sign in using OpenID ' : '') +
					Dsq.Utils.interpolate('to comment on <strong>%(forum_name)s</strong>.</p>')) :
					''
				),
				'<div id="dsq-post-add"></div>',
				'<div style="margin:10px 0">',
				((Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media) ?
						'<a href="#" id="dsq-media-link" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, false, \'media\'); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.USE_MEDIA + ' <small>&#9660;</small></a>' :
						''),
				'</div>'
		]);
		return result.join('');
	};


	this.header = function() {

		var html = '\<h3 id="dsq-comments-count" class="dsq-h3-commentcount">\
	 <span id="dsq-num-posts">112</span> Comments\
	 &nbsp;\
	 <span class="dsq-item-feed">\
	 <a href="http://jackandjillpolitics.disqus.com/let8217s_talk_about_the_8220i8221_word/latest.rss"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/bullet-feed.png"></a>\
	 </span>\
	 </h3>\
	 <div id="dsq-options" style="margin:15px 0">\
	 <span class="dsq-item-sort">\
	 Sort by\
	 <select id="dsq-sort-select" onchange="Dsq.Thread.sortBy(this.value);">\
	 <option value="hot" selected="selected">Popular now</option>\
	 <option value="best" >Best Rating</option>\
	 <option value="newest" >Newest first</option>\
	 <option value="oldest" >Oldest first</option>\
	 </select>\
	 &nbsp;\
	 </span>\
	 <span class="dsq-item-cp"><a href="http://jackandjillpolitics.disqus.com/let8217s_talk_about_the_8220i8221_word/">Community Page</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>\
	 <span class="dsq-item-subscribe">\
	 <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/email.png" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle">\
	 <span id="dsq-subscribe">\
	 <a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a>\
	 </span>\
	 </span>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-alerts">\
	 <p><a href="http://disqus.com/profile/login/?next=article:24302310" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false">You must log into your Disqus Profile in order to post comments.</a></p>\
	 </div>\
		';

		

		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) { 
			html = ' \
			<div class="dsq-alert-message dsq-upgrade-message"> \
				<strong>Disqus upgrade available.</strong> Hi ' + Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username + ', this message is being displayed to you because you are a moderator of this site. <a href="#" onclick="Dsq.$(\'dsq-upgrade-message\').style.display=\'block\';this.style.display=\'none\';return false">Click here for details.</a> \
				<div style="display:none; margin-top:10px;" id="dsq-upgrade-message"> \
					A new theme is available with added features. <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/settings/' + Dsq.jsonData.forum.url + '/?p=customize">To change your theme, click here</a> and choose the theme Narcissus. \
					If you do not upgrade, you are missing out on features such as: real-time commenting, new sign-in integrations, and an upgrade interface. \
					<strong>This message will automatically go away in one week.</strong> \
				</div> \
			</div> \
			' + html; 
		}
		return html;
	};

	this.footer = function() {
		var html = Dsq.Templates.pagination();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.authPost();
		

		html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
		

		return html;
	};

	this.pagination = function() {
		var html = '';
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) { Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = ''; }
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.thread.paginate) { return ''; }

		//
		// TODO: num_paginator still uses the template tag for pagination, 
		// 		while append_paginator does it all in JavaScript.
		//		This should all be in JavaScript.
		//

		if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages > 1 && Dsq.jsonData.request.page < Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages) {
			html = ' \<a class="dsq-paginate-append-text" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this); return false">Show more comments...</a>\
	 <button class="dsq-button-small dsq-paginate-append-button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this);">Load more comments</button>\
			';
		}
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = html;
			return '';
		} else {
			return '<div id="dsq-pagination" class="dsq-pagination">' + html + '</div>';
		}
	};

	this.trackbacks = function() {
		var html = '';

		if(typeof DsqLocal != 'undefined' && DsqLocal.trackback_url && DsqLocal.trackbacks) {
			var trackbacks = DsqLocal.trackbacks;
			var trackback_url = DsqLocal.trackback_url;
		} else {
			var trackbacks = [
			
			
			];
			var trackback_url = 'http://jackandjillpolitics.disqus.com/let8217s_talk_about_the_8220i8221_word/trackback/';
		}

		html += '<div class="dsq-item-trackback">Trackback URL&nbsp;&nbsp;<input class="dsq-trackback-url" onclick="this.select()" readonly="true" value="' + trackback_url + '"></div>';

		if(trackbacks.length) {
			html += '<ul id="dsq-references">'
			for(var i = 0; i < trackbacks.length; i++) {
				var trackback = trackbacks[i];
				html += '<li><cite><a href="' + trackback.author_url + '" rel="nofollow">' + trackback.author_name + '</a></cite> \
						<p class="dsq-meta">' + trackback.date + '</p> \
						<p class="dsq-content">' + trackback.excerpt + '</p></li>';
			}
			html += '</ul>';
			html = '<h3 class="dsq-h3-trackbacks">Trackbacks</h3>' + html;
		}

		return html;
	}

	this.showRetweets = function(id, limit, element_id /* Optional */) {
		var source, html = '';

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			if (reaction.id === id) {
				source = reaction.retweets;
			}
		}

		if (source) {
			if (limit === 0) {
				limit = source.length;
			}

			for (var j = 0; j < limit; j++) {
				var rt = source[j];
				html += '<a href="' + rt.url + '">' + rt.author_name + '</a>'	+ ((j === (limit - 1)) ? '.' : ', ');
			}
		}

		if (element_id === undefined) {
			return html;
		}

		var element = document.getElementById(element_id);
		element.innerHTML = html;
		return element;
	};

	this.showMoreReactions = function(reactions, has_more, start, limit) {
		var link = document.getElementById('dsq-show-more-reactions');
		var container = link.parentNode;
		container.removeChild(link);

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = reactions[i]; i++) {
			var el = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (el) {
				container.innerHTML += el;
			}
		}

		if (has_more) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = start;
			var l = limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			container.innerHTML += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}
	};

	this.generateReactionHTML = function(reaction) {
		if (reaction.body === null || reaction.body == '') {
			return;
		}

		if (reaction.author_name === '') {
			reaction.author_name = '&nbsp;';
		}

		if (reaction.url === '') {
			reaction.url = reaction.get_service_url;
		}

		/* Reaction HTML begins */
		var item = '<li class="dsq-reaction" id="dsq-reaction-' + reaction.id + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-header">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-header-avatar">';

		if (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== '') {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="' + reaction.author_url +'">';
		} else {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="#" onclick="return false;">';
		}

		if (reaction.avatar_url && reaction.avatar_url !== '') {
			item += '<img src="' + reaction.avatar_url + '"/>';
		} else {
			item += '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/noavatar32.png"/>';
		}

		var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
		item += '<img class="dsq-service-icon" src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/reactions/services/' + service_icon + '.png"/>'
			+ '</a></div>'
			+ '<cite><span>' + reaction.author_name + '</span></cite>'
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"><a class="dsq-header-time">' + reaction.date_created + '</a></span>'
			+ '</div><div class="dsq-reaction-body">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-message">' + reaction.body + '</div>'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-footer">From <a class="dsq-service-name" target="_blank" href="' + reaction.url + '">' + reaction.get_service_name + '</a> '
			+ 'via ' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? '<a href="http://backtype.com/">BackType</a>' : '<a href="' + reaction.source_url + '">UberVU</a>')
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator ? '&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;<a class="dsq-hide-reaction" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.hide(' + reaction.id + '); return false;">Hide</a>' : '') + '</div></div>';

		if(reaction.retweets) {
			var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
			if (num_retweets > 0) {
				item += '<div class="dsq-reaction-retweets">';
				if (num_retweets == 1) {
					item += 'One more retweet from <a href="' + reaction.retweets[0].url + '">'  + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '</a>';
				} else {
					item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');

					item += '<span id="dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '">';
					var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 15) ? 15 : num_retweets;
					item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);

					if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
						item += '</span> <a onclick="Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(' + reaction.id + ', 0, \'dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '\');'
							+ 'this.parentNode.removeChild(this); return false;" href="#">Show all</a>';
					}
				}
				item += '</div>';
			}
		}

		item += '</li>'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
		return item;
	};

	this.reactions = function() {
		var html, reaction;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '';
		for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (item) {
				html += item;
			}
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
			var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			html += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}

		return '<h3 class="dsq-h3-reactions">Reactions</h3><ul id="dsq-reactions" class="dsq-reactions">' + html + '</ul>';
	};
	
	this.missingPermissions = function() {
		return '	<p><a href="http://disqus.com/profile/login/?next=article:24302310" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false">You must log into your Disqus Profile in order to post comments.</a></p> \n';
	};

	//
	// Post
	//

	this.prependPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="comment-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="dsq-comment-reply-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-header-avatar" id="dsq-header-avatar-' + post_id + '" onmouseover="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')"> \
				<a id="dsq-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-avatar" href="' + userData.url + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.show_avatar
				? '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key].avatar + '" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '</a>'
			+ '</div> \
		';
	};

	this.postAppendHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];

		return ''
			+ (_meta.author_is_moderator
				? '<img class="dsq-mod-star" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/bullet-star.png" title="Moderator" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"> \
				<a id="dsq-time-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-header-time" href="#comment-' + post_id + '" title="Permalink">' + _meta.date + '</a> \
			</span>';
	};

	this.preBody = function(post_id) {
		return '';
	}

	this.postBody = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Deprecate flagging conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		return ''
			+ (_meta.edited
				? '<p class="dsq-editedtxt">(Edited by a moderator)</p>'
				: '')
			;
	};

	this.postFooter = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Use media should be conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		if(_meta.killed) { return ''; }

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer" id="dsq-comment-footer-' + post_id + '"> \
				<div id="dsq-points-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-likedtxt">'
				+ (_meta.points
					? _meta.points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(_meta.points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.'
					: '')
				+ '</div>'
				+ '<ul class="dsq-comment-options dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.votable
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first dsq-rate" id="dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id + '">'
					+ (!_meta.up_voted
						? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.rate(this, ' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Like</a>'
						: 'You liked this.') + '</li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-report' + (!_meta.votable ? ' dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-post-report-' + post_id + '"><a href="#" class="dsq-post-report" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + post_id + ', false); return false;">Report</a></li> \
				</ul> \
				<ul class="dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.can_reply
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first"><a href="#" id="dsq-reply-link-' + post_id +'" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(this, ' + post_id +'); return false;">Reply</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply && !_meta.has_replies && _meta.from_request_user
					? '<li id="dsq-edit-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-edit-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="' + (!_meta.can_reply ? 'dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-more-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-more-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'more\'); return false">More <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media
					? '<li id="dsq-media-el-' + post_id +'" style="display:none"><a id="dsq-media-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'media\'); return false">Use Media <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '</ul>'
				+ '<div id="dsq-reply-bar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar" style="display:none"> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-items-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-items"> \
						</div> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-auth-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-auth"> \
							 \
								 \
									<a href="#" class="dsq-help dsq-reply-req-opt" title="You must log into an account in order to comment on Jack and Jill Politics" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Required:</a> \
								 \
								<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/dsq-favicon-16x16.png" alt="" /> \
								<a id="dsq-reply-login-' + post_id + '" href="http://disqus.com/profile/login/?next=article:24302310" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false">Login</a> \
								 \
									&nbsp;or&nbsp; \
									<img class="fb_login_image" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/images/fbconnect/login-buttons/connect_light_small_short.gif" alt="Facebook Connect"/> \
									<a href="#" onclick="FB.Connect.requireSession(DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin); return false;">Connect</a> \
								 \
								&nbsp;or&nbsp; \
									<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/twitter-signin-icon.png" alt="" /> \
									<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect(); return false">Sign-in</a> \
								 \
								 \
							 \
						</div> \
					</div> \
					<div id="dsq-reply-' + post_id + '"></div> \
			</div> \
		';
	};

	//
	// Iframes
	//

	this._makeAttributes = function(attributes) {
		// Makes a tag attributes string out of an object.
		// Caller is responsible for making sure nothing needs to be escaped.
		var result = [];
		for (key in attributes) {
			result.push(' ' + key + '="' + attributes[key] + '"');
		}
		result = result.join('');
		return result;
	};

	this._frameGeneric = function(base_url, params, attributes) {
		if(typeof(disqus_callback_params) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_callback_params = '';
		}

		var default_params = {
			// TODO: These should be moved to Dsq.jsonData.
			'f'				: 'jackandjillpolitics',
			't'				: 'let8217s_talk_about_the_8220i8221_word',
			// Do we need encodeURIComponent here?
			'ifrs'			: encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css),
			'to_redirect'	: encodeURIComponent(window.location),
			'cbp'			: disqus_callback_params,
			'ff'			: Dsq.Thread.ff,
			'fc'			: Dsq.Thread.fc,
			'ac'			: Dsq.Thread.ac,
			'default_text'	: disqus_default_text
		};

		base_url += '?' + (new Date()).getTime();
		// Add params to default_params.
		if(params) {
			for(var key in params) {
				if(params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					default_params[key] = encodeURIComponent(params[key]);
				}
			}
		}
		// Build querystring.
		for(var key in default_params) {
			if(default_params[key] && default_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				base_url += '&' + key + '=' + default_params[key];
			}
		}

		return [
			'<iframe marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" hspace="0" vspace="0" frameborder="0"',
			(' allowtransparency="true" src="' + base_url + '"'),
			this._makeAttributes(attributes),
			'</iframe>'].join('');
	};

	this.frameLogin = function(opt_attributes) {
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/login.html';
		var attributes = opt_attributes || {};
		attributes['class'] = 'dsq-post-login';

		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameReply = function(post_id, extra_params, attributes) {
		// Returns the HTML for a reply iframe. Called by Dsq.Iframes.setReplyIframeToContainer
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = Dsq.Urls.REPLY;
		var params = {
			'def_email'		: disqus_def_email,
			'def_name'		: disqus_def_name
		};
		if(extra_params) {
			for(var key in extra_params) {
				if(extra_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					params[key] = extra_params[key];
				}
			}
		}
		if(_meta) {
			params['parent_post'] = post_id;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined') {
			params['per_page'] = disqus_per_page;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			attributes['class'] += '-authenticated';
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameEdit = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/edit.html';
		var params = {
			'p' : post_id
		};
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, {'class': 'dsq-post-edit', 'name': 'dsq-edit_' + post_id + '-frame'});
	};

	//
	// Menus
	//

	this.menuMore = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: "Remove post" button should hide menu.
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#comment-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.permalink(' + post_id + ')">Link</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Profile</a></li>'
	+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator
		? '	<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>' + (_meta.email ? '<li class="dsq-admin-email">' + _meta.email + '</li>' : '')
		+ '	<li class="dsq-admin-ip">' + _meta.ip + '</li> \
			<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>'
		+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.moderator_can_edit
			? ' <li class="dsq-admin-edit"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit Comment</a></li>'
			: '')
		+ ' <li class="dsq-remove"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.removePost(' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Remove Comment</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-report-spam"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.reportSpam(' + post_id + '); return false;">Mark Spam</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-block-user"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.blacklist(' + post_id + '); return false">Block User</a></li>'
		: '');
	};

	this.menuMedia = function(post_id) {
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(this, ' + post_id + ', \'seesmic\'); return false;">Record video</a></li> \
		';
	};

	this.dropProfile = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};


		var menu = '<li class="dsq-drop-showlnk"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Expand &#8663;</a></li>';
		var pointsMessage = '';
		if (userData['registered']) {
			pointsMessage = 'with ' + userData['points'] + ' points (more points are better).';
		}

		if (userData['is_remote']) {
			var domain = userData['remote_domain_name'];
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' is a ' + domain + ' user ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
			menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-' + domain.toLowerCase() + '">' + domain + '</span></li>';
		} else if (userData['registered']) {
			if (userData['verified']) {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a verified commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span></li>';
			} else {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a registered, but unverified, commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span></li>';
			}
		} else {
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has not claimed this commenter profile." onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()"><span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span></li>';
		}

		menu += _includeServices();
		return menu;
	};

	//
	// Popups
	//

	this._popupGeneric = function(content) {
		return ' \
		<div class="dsq-popup-content"> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-top"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-body" class="clearfix"> \
				<div class="dsq-popup-body-padding"> \
					<div class="dsq-popup-header"> \
						<a class="dsq-close-link" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/modal-close.png" alt="" /></a>'
						+ content['header']
					+ '</div>'
					+ content['body']
					+ '<div class="powered-by"><a href="http://disqus.com/comments/">Powered by <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-logo.png" alt="Disqus Comments" style="margin-bottom:-5px" /></a></div> \
				</div> <!-- padding --> \
			</div> <!-- body --> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-bottom"></div> \
		</div> \
		';
	};

	this.popupProfile = function(user_key) {
		var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(user_key, null);
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var html = '';
			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == 0
					? '<h4>Connections</h4><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li> \
					<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" title="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" /> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>'
				+ (i+1 == userServices.length ? '</ul>' : '');
			}
			return html;
		};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<table> \
				<tr> \
					<td> \
						<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><img class="dsq-popup-profile-avatar" src="' + userData['avatar'] + '" alt="" /></a> \
					</td> \
					<td> \
						<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user"> \
							<h3>' + userData['display_name'] + '</h3> \
							<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats" id="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + user_key + '">Loading...</div> \
						</div> \
					</td> \
				</tr> \
			</table> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-state"> \
				This is a&nbsp;<span class="'
					+ (userData['registered']
						? (userData['verified']
							? ' dsq-badge-verified'
							: (userData['is_remote']
								? ' dsq-badge-' + userData['remote_domain_name'].toLowerCase()
								: ' dsq-badge-registered')
							)
							: ' dsq-badge-guest') + '">'
			+ (userData['registered']
				? (userData['verified']
					? 'Verified'
					: (userData['is_remote']
						 ? userData['remote_domain_name']
						 : 'Registered')
					)
				: 'Guest')
			+ '</span>&nbsp;commenter profile.'
			+ '&nbsp;<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><strong>View more comments </strong></a>'
			+ (!userData['points']
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice">If this is you, <a href="http://disqus.com/profile" target="_blank">claim it now</a> to manage your comments.</p>'
				: '')
			+ ((userData['registered'] && !userData['verified'] && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username == userData['username'])) && !userData['is_remote'])
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice"><strong>Alert</strong>: You have not verified this account. <a href="http://disqus.com/verify">Verify it now.</a></p>'
				: '')
			+ '</div> \
			<div id="dsq-profile-status-' + user_key + '" class="dsq-popup-profile-status" style="display:none"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-snapshot"> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td> \
							<div id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Most active sites</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
						<td>'
							+ _includeServices()
							+ '<div id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Moderator of</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div> \
			';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupReblog = function() {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<cite><span>Reblog this comment</span></cite> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div id="dsq-reblog-form" class="dsq-reblog-form"> \
			</div> \
		';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupModal = function(title, message) {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<h3>' + title + '</h3> \
		';

		bodyHtml = message;

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.alertContent = function(name, post_id) {
		var alert = {
			'post_not_approved': {
				'title': 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator',
				'message': 'Thanks for posting. Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.'
			},
			'post_has_profile': {
				'title': 'Use your existing commenter profile',
				'message': 'You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> commenter profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a>'
			}
		};
		return alert[name] || false;
	};

	//
	// Actions
	//

	this.voted = function(post_id, points, vote) {
		// Update number of points
		Dsq.$('dsq-points-' + post_id).innerHTML = points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.';

		// Update link text
		if(vote) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id).innerHTML = 'You liked this.';
		}
	};

	this.subscribed = function(status) {
		var title, message;

		if(status) {
			title = 'Subscribed!';
			message = 'You have subscribed to this comment thread. New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox, where you may read and respond by email.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(0); return false">Unsubscribe</a> \
			';
		} else {
			title = 'Unsubscribed';
			message = 'You have unsubscribed to this comment thread. New comments will no longer be sent to your email inbox.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a> \
			';
		}

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);

	};
	
	this.highlighted = function() {
		Dsq.Popup.popModal('This comment has been highlighted.', 'Highlighted comment');
	};

	//
	// Media
	//

	this.mediaSeesmic = function(id, thumb) {
		return ' \
			<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_preview" class="dsq-seesmic-preview"><a href="http://www.seesmic.com/video/' + id + '" target="_blank" class="see_link">&nbsp;</a> \
				<div style="display:block;width:160px; height:120px; border:none; background-image:url(http://t.seesmic.com/thumbnail/' + thumb + ')"> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_hide" class="seePlayOverlay" style="display:none;"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',false)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/stopOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_show" class="seePlayOverlay"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',true)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/playOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; border:none; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
				</div> \
			</div> \
			<div id="' + id + '_content" style="display:block; width:100%; padding-top:5px"></div> \
		';
	};

	//
	// Callbacks
	//

	this.postComment_onSuccess = function(parent_post_id) {
		// Increment post count
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');
		
		if (num_posts) { 
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) { 
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
	};
};
// Dsq.Templates


/**
 * Dsq.Post
 */
Dsq.Post = new function() {
	this.openedMenu = {};
	this.menuEventListener = null;
	this.stateReplyToggled = {};
	this.stateEditToggled = {};
	this.stateRecordLink = {};

	/**
	 * Inserts a new post into the document.
	 *
	 * @param after_id {Number}	Insert a post before specified id.  If after_id
	 *							evaluates to false, then post in the front.  If
	 *							after_id is -1, post at the end.
	 */
	this.insert = function(after_id, id, message, author) {
		// Skeleton template from thread_posts.html.
		var skeleton = ' \
			<li id="dsq-comment-%(id)s"> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-header-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-header"> \
					<cite id="dsq-cite-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-cite"> \
						<a id="dsq-author-user-%(id)s" href="%(author_url)s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">%(author_name)s</a> \
					</cite> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-body-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-body"> \
					<div id="dsq-comment-message-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-message">%(message)s</div> \
				</div> \
			</li> \
		';
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var _user_meta = Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key];
		var markup = Dsq.Utils.interpolate(skeleton, {
			id: id,
			message: message,
			author_url: _user_meta.blog,
			author_name: _user_meta.display_name
		});
		var div = document.createElement('div');
		markup = markup.replace(Dsq.COMMENTS_RE, Dsq.CommentsHandler);
		div.innerHTML = markup;

		if (after_id === -1) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').appendChild(div);
		} else if (!after_id) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').insertBefore(div, Dsq.$('dsq-comments').firstChild);
		} else if (Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + after_id)) {
			// Get next node after "after_id", so we can insert before it.
			// If "after_id" is the last comment, the target node is the
			// last node.
			
			// var append_post_id = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(after_id).replace('<div id="','').replace('"></div>', '');
			var append_post_id = 'dsq-append-post-' + after_id;
			var node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			while (node = node.nextSibling) {
				if (!node || node.nodeType == 1) { // 1 == Node.ELEMENT_NODE
					break;
				}
			}
			if (!node) {
				node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			}
			node.parentNode.insertBefore(div, node);
		}
	};

	this.incrementPostCount = function() {
		
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');

		if (num_posts) {
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) {
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
	}
	
	this.outlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className += ' dsq-comment-outline';
		setTimeout("(function () { Dsq.Post.clearOutlineComment(" + post_id + ") })()", 3000);
	};
	
	this.clearOutlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className.replace('dsq-comment-outline', '');
	};

	this.showMenu = function(el, id, name) {
		var anchorPos = Dsq.Utils.findPos(el);
		var menu = document.createElement('ul');

		if(this.openedMenu) {
			if(this.openedMenu.linkClicked) {
				this.openedMenu.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		switch(name) {
			case 'more':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMore(id);
				break;
			case 'media':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMedia(id);
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}

		// Add menu to document body
		menu.id = 'dsq-menu-' + id;
		menu.className = 'dsq-menu';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(menu);

		// Position and show
		anchorPos[1] += 15;
		menu.style.left = anchorPos[0] + 'px';
		menu.style.top = anchorPos[1] + 'px';
		menu.style.display = 'block';

		// Set global reference
		this.openedMenu = {
			'el' : menu,
			'id' : id,
			'name' : name,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};

		// Set listener
		this.menuEventListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._hideMenu);
	};

	this._hideMenu = function(e) {
		var el = e.target || e.srcElement;
		var openedMenu = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el;
		var id = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.id;

		if(!id) {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link';
		} else {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link-' + id;
		}

		if(!openedMenu) {
			return;
		}

		if(!Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, openedMenu.id)) {
			openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
			Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Post.menuEventListener);
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(openedMenu);

		} else {
			// Hide the menu if a link was clicked inside the menu.  We can't
			// completely remove the menu until the onclick event on the link
			// fires, but the menuEventListener will prevent multiple menus
			// from polluting the DOM.
			if(el && typeof el.href != 'undefined') {
				openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el = null;
			}
		}

		if(Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Post.openedMenu.linkClicked = true;
		}
	};


	this.getUserServices = function(user_key, id) {
		if(!user_key && id) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
			user_key = _meta.user_key;
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var userServices = [];

		// Keep a full list of supported services. This is the order they will display in the drop-profile.
		// Each service must have a corresponding case in _buildServiceUrl()
		var supportedServices = ['blog', 'twitter', 'facebook', 'tumblr'];

		function _buildServiceUrl(serviceName) {
			var data = userData[serviceName];
			var services = {
				blog:		function(d) { return d; },
				twitter:	function(d) { return d; },
				facebook:	function(d) { return d; },
				tumblr:		function(d) { return 'http://' + d + '.tumblr.com'; }
			};
			return services[serviceName](data);
		}

		for(var i = 0; i < supportedServices.length; i++) {
			if(userData[supportedServices[i]]) {
				var serviceUrl = _buildServiceUrl(supportedServices[i]);
				userServices.push({'name' : supportedServices[i], 'url' : serviceUrl});
			}
		}
		return userServices;
	}

	this.dropProfile = function(id) {
		var dp = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-profile-' + id);

		// IE6 needs JS to display/hide. All other browsers use CSS.
		if(dp) {
			if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) dp.style.display = (dp.style.display == 'inline') ? 'none' : 'inline';
			return false;
		} else {
			dp = document.createElement('ul');
		}

		dp.id = 'dsq-drop-profile-' + id;
		dp.className = 'dsq-drop-profile';

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) { dp.style.display = 'inline'; }

		var container = Dsq.$('dsq-header-avatar-' + id);
		dp.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.dropProfile(id);
		container.appendChild(dp);
	};

	this.dropProfileMore = function(el, id) {
		var hiddenItems = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-hidden-' + id);

		hiddenItems.style.display = 'inline';
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
	};

	this._updateReplyLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "reply / cancel" links based on state.
		var displayDict = {};

		if(id) {
			if(this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				el.innerHTML = 'Cancel';
				displayDict['media'] = 'inline';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'none';
			} else {
				el.innerHTML = 'Reply';
				displayDict['media'] = 'none';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'inline';
			}
		}

		for(var key in displayDict) {
			if(displayDict.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var	linkEl = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-el-' + id),
					spacer = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-spacer-' + id);

				if(linkEl) {
					linkEl.style.display = displayDict[key];
					if(spacer) spacer.style.display = displayDict[key];
				}
			}
		}
	};

	this._updateMediaLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "use media / cancel" links based on state.
		var appendId = (id) ? ('-' + id) : '';
		var link = Dsq.$('dsq-media-link' + appendId);

		if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			link.innerHTML = 'Cancel Media';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(link, id); return false; };
		} else {
			link.innerHTML = 'Use Media <small>&#9660;</small>';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.showMenu(link, id, 'media'); return false; };
		}
	};

	this.toggleReply = function(el, id) {
		// Create reply IFrame
		if (window.disqus_use_postmessage) {
			if (!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				// Create IFrame if it doesn't exist.
				if (!Dsq.frames['reply_' + id]) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-frame-' + id), id);
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].init();
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].setState(id, _meta.depth);
				}
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
			}
		} else {
			// DEPRECATED
			if(!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				// Reply toolbar
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id), id);
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Iframes.hideAllInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id));
				if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
					// HACK: Cancel media before canceling self.
					this.toggleMediaReply(Dsq.$('dsq-media-link-' + id), id);
				}
			}
		}

		this.stateReplyToggled[id] = !this.stateReplyToggled[id];
		this._updateReplyLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-reply-' + id); }

		Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED, {
			postId: id,
			opened: this.stateReplyToggled[id]
		});
	};

	this.toggleMediaReply = function(el, id, xtype) {
		id = id || 0;
		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(!this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id, {xtype:xtype}, 'dsq-post-video');
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id);
		}
		this.stateRecordLink[id] = !this.stateRecordLink[id];
		this._updateMediaLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};

	this.edit = function(el, id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.frameEdit(id);
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-comment-message-' + id); }
	};

    this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
			if(vote == 1) {
                Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + id).innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
            }

            Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/vote.js'
                + '?post_id='    + id
                + '&vote='        + vote);

		} else {
			Dsq.Popup.login(Dsq.Strings.TO_RATE_PLEASE_LOG_IN);
		}
    };

	this.report = function(id, confirmed) {
		if(confirmed) {
			Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/let8217s_talk_about_the_8220i8221_word/post_report/', {'post_id': id});
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('Thank you. This comment has been flagged for moderator attention.', 'Successfully flagged');
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$('dsq-post-report-' + id));
		} else {
			var title = Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT;
			var message = Dsq.Strings.ARE_YOU_SURE_YOU_WOULD_LIKE_TO_REPORT_THIS_COMMENT_TO_A_MODERATOR + '? \
			<br /><br /> \
			<button onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true)"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.NO + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.NEVER_MIND + '</button>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<button onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + id + ', true);"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.YES + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT + '</button><br /><br />'
			+ Dsq.Strings.THIS_WILL_FLAG_COMMENTS_FOR_MODERATORS_TO_TAKE_ACTION + '. \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, id);
		}
	};



	this.showAlert = function(id, msg) {
		var msgEl = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id);
		var alert = '<div class="dsq-comment-alert">' + msg + '</div>';

		msgEl.innerHTML = alert + msgEl.innerHTML;
	};

};
// Dsq.Post


/**
 * Dsq.Thread
 */
Dsq.Thread = new function() {
	this.fc = null;
	this.ff = null;
	this.ac = null;

	
	this.adminIsOn = false;

	
	
	

	this.hlComment = null;
	this.hlCommentClass = null;

	this.getNextComment = function(el) {
		var start_id = el.id;
		while(el = el.nextSibling) {
			if(el.id && el.id.indexOf('dsq-comment-') != -1 && el.id != start_id) {
				return el;
			}
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.getActiveCommentId = function() {
		if (document.URL.indexOf('#comment-') >= 0) {
			var anchor = document.URL.slice(document.URL.indexOf('#') + 1);
			return anchor.replace('comment-', '');
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.highlightAnchor = function() {
		var i = this.getActiveCommentId();
		if (i == null) return false;
		var id = 'dsq-comment-' + i;
		var hash = window.location.hash;

		// Toggle the hash incase the comment isn't available when the page loads
		// for WebKit-based browsers.
		if (Dsq.Utils.webkit) {
			window.location.hash = '';
			window.location.hash = hash;
		}

		this.hlComment = Dsq.$(id);
		// Adding this conditional guard pending #289
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlCommentClass = this.hlComment.className;
		this.hlComment.className += ' dsq-hl-anchor';

		setTimeout("Dsq.Thread.highlightClear()", 3000);
	};

	this.highlightClear = function() {
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlComment.className = this.hlCommentClass;
	};

	this.login = function(toggle) {
		// toggle id is #dsq-reply-login-[id]
		var postId;
		if(toggle.id.indexOf('dsq-reply-login') != -1) {
			postId = toggle.id.slice(16);
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + postId);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(toggle) {
			if(toggle.className == 'dsq-login-active') {
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(container, postId);
				toggle.className = '';
			} else {
				Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
				toggle.className = 'dsq-login-active';
			}
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
		}

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};


	this.paginate = function(page, el_clicked, per_page) {
		// Use extra_params to pass any override parameters that we need to persist.
		var extra_params = '';

		// "Per page" can either be overriden by providing it as an argument
		// (per-call) or setting the disqus_per_page override variable (global).
		if(typeof per_page == 'undefined') {
			per_page = null;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined' && per_page === null) {
			per_page = disqus_per_page;
		}

		if(typeof disqus_sort != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&sort=' + disqus_sort;
		}
		if(per_page !== null) {
			extra_params += '&per_page=' + per_page;
		}

		Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML += '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
		
		if(el_clicked) {
			el_clicked.style.display = 'none';
		}
		
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'let8217s_talk_about_the_8220i8221_word'
			+ '&p='		+ page
			+ extra_params);
	};

	this.sortBy = function(sort) {
		var disqus_script = document.createElement('script');
		var disqus_date = new Date();

		if (location.hash != '') {
			location.hash = '#disqus_thread';
		}

		if(typeof(disqus_url) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_url = disqus_href;
		}
		disqus_script.type = 'text/javascript';
		disqus_script.src = 'http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'let8217s_talk_about_the_8220i8221_word'
			+ '&sort='	+ sort
			+ '&title='
			+ '&'		+ disqus_date.getTime();

		Dsq.$('dsq-comments').innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif">';
		Dsq.container.appendChild(disqus_script);
	};

	this.subscribe = function(status, email) {
		// `status` is an int -- 1 to subscribe, 0 to unsubscribe
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || email) {
			// If authenticated user OR anonymous email provided

			if(email) {
				Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
			}

			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/subscribe.js'
				+'?status=' 	+ status
				+ '&slug='		+ 'let8217s_talk_about_the_8220i8221_word'
				+ '&email=' 	+ encodeURIComponent(email));

		} else if(!email) {
			// If anonymous user and no email has been provided yet, prompt for email

			var title = 'Subscribe to this comment thread';
			var message = ' \
				New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox! \
				<div class="dsq-subscribe-submit"> \
					<p><strong>Enter your email address below.</strong></p> \
					<input type="text" id="dsq-subscribe-email"> \
					<button onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1, Dsq.$(\'dsq-subscribe-email\').value)">Subscribe</button> \
				</div> \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
		}
	};

	this.showSettings = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
			return;
		}

		/* The form has to be re-designed when more options will come out. */
		var html = 'Automatically close comments after <input size="3" id="dsq-thread-days-alive" value="' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.days_alive + '" type="text" /> days. Existing comments will still be displayed.<br /><br />(Using 0 days will disable this feature)<br /><br />'
								 + '<button onclick="Dsq.Thread.updateDaysAlive();" class="dsq-button-small"><span>Save</span></button>'
								 + '<span id="dsq-thread-settings-status" class="dsq-options-status"></span>';
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, 'Settings');
	};

	this.updateDaysAlive = function() {
		var days = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-days-alive').value;
		var status = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-settings-status');
		Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/update_days_alive.js', {days:days,thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
		status.innerHTML = 'Saved!';
		window.setTimeout(function() { status.innerHTML = ''; }, 1000);
	};
};
// Dsq.Thread

Dsq.Events = function() {
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var handlers = {};
	var getHandlers = function(event) {
		if (handlers[event] === undefined) {
			handlers[event] = [];
		}
		return handlers[event];
	};

	// Public
	// Value keys : postId, node, xtype
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_CREATED = 1;
	// Value keys : postId, opened
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED = 2;
	obj.fire = function(event, opt_value) {
		if (!event) {
			throw new Error('Unknown event');
		}
		var value = opt_value || {};
		for (var i=0; i<getHandlers(event).length; i++) {
			getHandlers(event)[i](value);
		}
	};
	obj.addHandler = function(event, callback) {
		getHandlers(event).push(callback);
	};

	return obj;
}();

/**
 * Dsq.Realtime
 */
Dsq.Realtime = new function() {
	var initialized = false;
	var interval = null;
	var last_checked = Dsq.jsonData.request.timestamp;
	var new_posts = [];
	var ongoing_request = false;
	var prev_script = null;

	function updateNewPostCount() {
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-alert').style.display = new_posts.length ? 'block' : 'none';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-queued').innerHTML = new_posts.length
		+ ' new '
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, 'comment', 'comments')
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, ' was', ' were')
		+ ' just posted.';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.SHOW + ')';
	}

	function insertNewPosts() {
		var post_id = null;
		var after_id = Dsq.$('dsq-sort-select').value === 'oldest' ? -1 : null;

		for (var i=0; i<new_posts.length; i++) {
			post_id = new_posts[i];
			Dsq.Post.insert(after_id, post_id, Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id].message);
			Dsq.Post.incrementPostCount();
			Dsq.Post.outlineComment(post_id);
		}
		new_posts = [];
	}

	this.enableInterval = function() {
		interval = setInterval(Dsq.Realtime.check, Dsq.jsonData.context.realtime_speed);
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.ENABLED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.PAUSE + ')';
	}

	this.disableInterval = function() {
		if (interval) {
			clearInterval(interval);
			interval = null;
		}
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.PAUSED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.RESUME + ')';
	}

	this.toggleInterval = function() {
		if (!interval) {
			Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
		} else {
			Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
		}
		return false;
	}

	this.initialize = function() {
		if (!initialized) {
			initialized = true;
			Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').onclick = this.toggleInterval;
			if (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').onclick = this.show;
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
			if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.realtime_paused) {
				Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
			} else {
				Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
			}
		}
	}

	this.show = function() {
		insertNewPosts();
		updateNewPostCount();
		return false;
	}

	this.check = function() {
		if (!ongoing_request && Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			if (prev_script) {
				prev_script.parentNode.removeChild(prev_script);
			}
			ongoing_request = true;
			prev_script = Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/24302310/realtime.js?timestamp=' + last_checked);
		}
	};

	this.update = function(timestamp, posts, users) {
		ongoing_request = false;
		last_checked = timestamp;

		if (users) {
			for (var user_id in users) {
				if (users.hasOwnProperty(user_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id] = users[user_id];
					}
				}
			}
		}

		if (posts) {
			for (var post_id in posts) {
				if (posts.hasOwnProperty(post_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] = posts[post_id];
						new_posts.push(post_id);
					}
				}
			}

			if (Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				insertNewPosts();
			} else {
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
		}
	};

}();

// DEPRECATED
Dsq.Iframes = function() {
	// Different style of object from the above. Hoping to switch to this for some reason.
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var showIframeInContainer = function(container, id, markup) {
		// Look through container for iframes, hiding them, except show one that matches id
		// If none of them matched id, create a new iframe using markup and insert it.
		// Returns the iframe node if and only if it was newly created.
		var found = false;
		for (var i=0; i<container.childNodes.length; i++) {
			var child = container.childNodes[i];
			if (child.nodeName == 'IFRAME') {
				if (child.id == id) {
					child.style.display = 'block';
					found = true;
				} else {
					child.style.display = 'none';
				}
			}
		}
		if (found) {
			return;
		}
		// The iframe wasn't found, so construct it and add it to the container.
		// Don't use innerHTML because it might reload iframes
		var div = document.createElement('div');
		div.innerHTML = markup;
		var iframe = div.childNodes[0];
		div.removeChild(iframe);
		container.appendChild(iframe);
		return iframe;
	};

	// Public
	obj.makeReplyIframeId = function(opt_postId, opt_xtype) {
		var id = 'dsq-post-add-iframe';
		if (opt_xtype) {
			id += '-' + opt_xtype;
		}
		if (opt_postId) {
			id += '-' + opt_postId;
		}
		return id;
	};
	obj.makeLoginIframeId = function(opt_postId) {
		if (!opt_postId) {
			return 'dsq-login-iframe';
		}
		return 'dsq-login-iframe-' + opt_postId;
	};
	obj.makeReplyIframeName = function(opt_postId, opt_xtype) {
		var name = 'dsq-reply-frame';
		if (opt_xtype) {
			name += '-' + opt_xtype;
		}
		if (opt_postId) {
			name += '-' + opt_postId;
		}
		return name;
	};
	obj.showReplyIframeInContainer = function(container, opt_postId, opt_extraParams, opt_className) {
		// Construct the id so we can check if it's already present.
		// Hide any other iframes we find, and show this one if it's found.
		var params = opt_extraParams || {};
		// use xtype in the id and name so we can distinguish media replies from text replies:
		var id = Dsq.Iframes.makeReplyIframeId(opt_postId, params.xtype);
		var name = Dsq.Iframes.makeReplyIframeName(opt_postId, params.xtype);
		var attributes = {
			'id': id,
			'name': name,
			'class': opt_className || 'dsq-post-reply'
			};
		var markup = Dsq.Templates.frameReply(opt_postId, opt_extraParams, attributes);
		var iframe = showIframeInContainer(container, id, markup);
		// It was newly created
		if (iframe) {
			Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_CREATED, {
				postId: opt_postId,
				node: iframe,
				xtype: params.xtype
			});
		}
	};
	obj.showLoginIframeInContainer = function(container, opt_postId) {
		var id = Dsq.Iframes.makeLoginIframeId(opt_postId);
		var markup = Dsq.Templates.frameLogin({id: id});
		showIframeInContainer(container, id, markup);
	};
	obj.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed = function(container, opt_postId) {
		if (Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {
			obj.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, opt_postId);
		} else {
			obj.hideAllInContainer(container);
		}
	};
	obj.hideAllInContainer = function(container) {
		for (var i=0; i<container.childNodes.length; i++) {
			var child = container.childNodes[i];
			if (child.nodeName == 'IFRAME') {
				child.style.display = 'none';
			}
		}
	};

	return obj;
}();

Dsq.Twitter = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.startTwitterConnect = function() {
		var popupParams = 'location=0,status=0,width=800,height=400';
		that._twitterWindow = window.open(Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/_ax/twitter/begin/', 'twitterWindow', popupParams);
		that._twitterInterval = window.setInterval(that.completeTwitterConnect, 1000);
	};

	this.completeTwitterConnect = function() {
		if (that._twitterWindow.closed) {
			window.clearInterval(that._twitterInterval);
			window.location.reload();
		}
	};
};

Dsq.Yahoo = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.startYahooConnect = function() {
		var popupParams = 'location=0,status=0,width=800,height=400';
		that._yahooWindow = window.open(Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/_ax/yahoo/begin/', 'yahooWindow', popupParams);
		that._yahooInterval = window.setInterval(that.completeYahooConnect, 1000);
	};

	this.completeYahooConnect = function() {
		if (that._yahooWindow.closed) {
			window.clearInterval(that._yahooInterval);
			window.location.reload();
		}
	};
};

Dsq.OpenID = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.requestURL = function() {
		var message = '<table class="dsq-openid-form"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;" rowspan="2"><img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.media_url + '/images/openid-icon-100x100.png" /></td>';
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<ul id="dsq-comments">\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-12197762">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12197762" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12197762" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12197762">allheavens</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12197762" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12197762" class="dsq-comment-message">Violence is never an anwser.<br><br>Infidelity like marriage is a choice. You choose to marry and you choose to be unfaithful to your spouse.<br><br>Anyone who says they were overcome by a deep compelling passion for another person and hence set aside their marriage vows is a fucking liar. What they are is an emotionally selfish child. <br><br>Sorry but I am about to offend some people with the following statement:<br><br>There ain\'t no poontang or dick that good. Some people are just too emotionally immature to place others needs before their own or they\'ve been reading too many Harlequin Romance novels. It is that simple.<br><br>Hell, you\'re not being satisfied sexually at home, get some sexual counseling! If that doesn\'t work and the sex is that important to you, get a divorce and find someone who does it for you.<br><br>Your wife is a shrewish harpy, divorce the bitch.<br><br>Your husband is a trifling asshat, divorce the bastard.<br><br>You\'ve been married for ten years, have three kids, your husband is a philandering idiot but a very good provider. Either end the marriage and face the reality that you will have to downsize the lifestyle or stay in the marriage, suck it up and deal because you know what, it was YOUR choice.<br><br>Your wife is cheating on you and not being the least bit discreet. Leave her or continue to play the cuckold but don\'t be a whiny bitch about it because it was YOUR choice.<br><br>In reality almost every person saw the indicators in their potential spouses that hinted at this sort of behavior and simply put the blinders on and held out hope that marriage or they could "change" them.<br><br>But like I said, you married the mofo, now deal!<br><br>Was that too harsh?  LOL</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-12201666">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12201666" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12201666" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12201666">whiterosebuddy</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12201666" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12201666" class="dsq-comment-message">Not at all...you said it well.<br><br>ICAM</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-12184875">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12184875" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12184875" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12184875">miss_opinion</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12184875" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12184875" class="dsq-comment-message">But how many people actually know they will cheat?  We\'re all human, with needs and desires, we sometimes do distructive things like sleeping around on a spouse or partner. No one says "oh well today I will walk the dog, fuck another man/woman... both lol , and then pick up the dry-cleaning." I rather try and fight the urge to get involved in the goings-on in other people\'s relationships. But this is America and that has become a pass-time, judging other people\'s relationships. <br><br>Mark Sandford is such a joke not because he cheated but because he is digging this hole for himself and proving again that morality and politics do not mix. If he and Jenny want to patch things up and decided where to take their relationship, all power to them. But I could care less who sleeps with whom.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-12185567">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12185567" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12185567" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12185567">rikyrah</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12185567" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12185567" class="dsq-comment-message">I don\'t understand it. If you don\'t want to be married, don\'t be married. Especially when infidelity these days can mean a whole lot more than a broken heart - it can mean DEATH in the form of HIV. Does that not enter the mind of a cheater?<br><br>CPL,<br><br>I LMAO everytime I read your recount of Obama at the CBC Weekend.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-12186419">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12186419" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12186419" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12186419">Admiral_Komack</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12186419" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12186419" class="dsq-comment-message">"I don\'t understand it. If you don\'t want to be married, don\'t be married. Especially when infidelity these days can mean a whole lot more than a broken heart - it can mean DEATH in the form of HIV. Does that not enter the mind of a cheater?"<br><br>-Not when the cheater is thinking about that AZZ!</div>\
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	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-12185879">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12185879" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12185879" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12185879">Angelar</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12185879" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12185879" class="dsq-comment-message">rikryrah, you are obviously a very intelligent person.  people get married for all kinds of reasons....please don\'t try to make like it is all about HIV.  Alot of us were born before HIV was a big issue...there are still cultural issues some of us deal with.<br><br>As much as I admire you, you lost me on this argument, big time.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-12186218">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12186218" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12186218" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12186218">rikyrah</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12186218" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12186218" class="dsq-comment-message">If you decide that you want to fool around, then it\'s obvious you don\'t want to be married...IF fidelity is one of the things your mate expects. IF they don\'t expect it, then fine. \'back in the day\', the worst thing a woman could expect from her husband when he cheated was the humiliation of possibly getting his ho PREGNANT. <br><br>now, the worst thing he can do is bring something home that won\'t humiliate you, it can KILL you. <br><br>Black women, in non-high risk groups, receive HIV through HETEROSEXUAL SEX....from a man that they believe they can trust. It\'s life or death out there.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-12201838">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12201838" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12201838" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12201838">TAG60</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12201838" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12201838" class="dsq-comment-message">I disagree. Cheating on your spouse does not mean you don\'t want to be married to the person you are with or that you don\'t love them. I know some people will counter with, if you love the person then why cheat? At the end of the day, we all do things that are not understandable to other people. <br>Yes HIV and AIDS are real but trust me, that is not a good enough reason to stop someone from cheating.<br>And black women need to be more responsible. Dont let that dude hit it raw...no matter how good he tells you it feels.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-12202322">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12202322" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12202322" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12202322">whiterosebuddy</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12202322" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12202322" class="dsq-comment-message">"some people will counter with, if you love the person then why cheat?"<br><br>Yes, but then...those same folks looooved they momma, but I bet they didn\'t always do what she said, either!<br><br>And we KNOW they still LOVE momma, no matter how many times they failed to live by her rules or be disciplined enough to do what she said.</div>\
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	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-12203500">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12203500" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12203500" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12203500">TAG60</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12203500" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12203500" class="dsq-comment-message">personally, i try not to judge folks cos although i have strong convictions, its not so easy to tell what i would do if i was ever in that kind of situation. Bottom line, if you choose to do it and you get caught, thats on you.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-12204227">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12204227" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12204227" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12204227">whiterosebuddy</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12204227" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12204227" class="dsq-comment-message">ITA!!</div>\
	 </div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-12187333">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12187333" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12187333" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12187333">Angelar</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12187333" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12187333" class="dsq-comment-message">you are assuming that a person who is married decides from "day one" he/she wants to "fool around"<br><br>rikyrah...you must be a perfect person..<br><br>because you are perfect, I want to meet you with my husband and children<br><br>how soon can we do this?</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-12196157">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12196157" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12196157" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12196157">rikyrah</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12196157" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12196157" class="dsq-comment-message">not a perfect person. not by a long shot.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-12186564">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12186564" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12186564" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12186564">Angelar</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12186564" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12186564" class="dsq-comment-message">But we were talking earlier about why people decided to get married and cultural issues.   I don\'t believe for one minute that young people who give into their family and cultural issues decide then and there whether they are going to "fool around."  <br><br>I relate to your concerns.</div>\
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	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-12186760">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12186760" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12186760" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12186760">whiterosebuddy</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12186760" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12186760" class="dsq-comment-message">I think one of the biggest mistakes folks are making is in thinking that sex is the basis of marriage. It isn\'t. There are so many other variables to marriage. Infidelity is just one thing that can challenge the marriage. <br><br>No couple stays married for sex. NONE.  And many, many, many married people do not get divorced based on infidelity.<br><br>If sex is all marriage means to someone, then they truly did not make a committment nor do they understand the marital vows.<br><br>There is no line that says \'until sex do us part\'</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-12186739">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12186739" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12186739" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12186739">rorysmomma</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12186739" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12186739" class="dsq-comment-message">I tell my friends who even consider cheating to release the thought and buy a toy.  It is not worth it.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-12187242">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12187242" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12187242" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12187242">malletgirl02</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12187242" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12187242" class="dsq-comment-message">It is not just these days that infidelity can mean death or disease. Ever heard of Syphilis? That has been around for hundreds of years.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-12187793">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12187793" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12187793" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12187793" href="http://blog.evavegadiversity.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">evita</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12187793" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12187793" class="dsq-comment-message">I believe there are lots of people who want to be married but do not want to be without sex or romance- which is the case for MANY marriages (kids, stress, money, unresolved relationship baggage.) <br><br>Death also can mean two bullets to the side of the head that is if you F with the wrong chick...</div>\
	 </div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-12195145">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12195145" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12195145" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12195145" href="http://thisblksistaspage.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">blksista</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12195145" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12195145" class="dsq-comment-message">You know what\'s missing out of American life these days?  Guys who were just single and straight, and never got married, except perhaps to their jobs and their way of living.<br><br>They had their own income, their own women, and the guys that they would always look up and have guy fun with, even when traveling. They never got a long-standing relationship with a woman, unless they were forced to.<br><br>These days, a guy who isn\'t married or with a woman in a long-standing relationship is gay.  Which is stupid.  It doesn\'t leave men to find any middle ground.<br><br>I just wish that those men who creep around would just get divorced to their "ball and chain," and just say that they\'re just not into marriage.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-12195589">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12195589" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12195589" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12195589">isonprize</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12195589" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12195589" class="dsq-comment-message">You mean George Clooney?  a confirmed bachelor.   Can\'t think of a man of color...  Can you?</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12195978" href="http://thisblksistaspage.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">blksista</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12195978" class="dsq-comment-message">No.  Clooney is an example, but right now, the only example.<br><br>That\'s one reason why there were men\'s clubs.  They weren\'t just for the married and powerful guys.  There were suites there for men who had no \'residence,\' with maid service and room service.<br><br>I had a great uncle who was a gambler, traveled on the racehorse circuit helping to keep horses (old days, folks), and lived alone, although he wasn\'t completely without female companionship.  He just never got married or had a long-term relationship with a woman.  Remembering hard times had something to do with it as well.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12183802">Baracktopia</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12183802" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'m a firm believer in the maxim "do unto others as you would have done unto you," and as such - I have a very low tolerance for infidelity, coupled with a strong sense of self-respect. I have cursed out or called friends to task who stray, and if a married man approaches me I am angry and offended. I even once overheard a conversation between 2 strangers, where 1 of them was thinking of cheating w/ a friend\'s girl - and I had to add my 2 cents, telling him not to even go there. (And yes, they did look at me like I was crazy for buttin in.) <br><br>I\'m also a believer in honesty. If you feel the need to step out - either let your partner know that you\'re unhappy w/ the relationship, etc - or heck, even tell them straight up what you are about.  You will be surprised what people will tolerate.  Better yet just end the relationship and do your thing.<br><br>So, from a woman\'s perspective, to answer your question on why men (and women) cheat (and there are a host of reasons) - it\'s because they can.  To quote Chris Rock, "a man is only as faithful as his options."  Men cheat bc they can tell a woman straight up that they are married and that triflin heffa won\'t care. Same w/ men who stray w/ married women. <br><br>We live in a culture where anything goes, where people hook-up on the drop of a dime without thought. Taken in this light, the question  isn\'t "who is cheating," it\'s really - who isn\'t?</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12184073">isonprize</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12184073" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>To quote Chris Rock, "a man is only as faithful as his options."   Men cheat bc they can tell a woman straight up that they are married and that triflin heffa won\'t care. </i><br><br>But you know what?  As a woman, I have to believe that the man I am with has some ability to reason.     The \'triflin\' heifer won\'t care, but shouldn\'t HE?  Walk away from the poontang.  Just walk away.  In fact, if it was tempting, and your that horny, take it home to your woman.  She might just surprise you in ways you never knew...<br><br>If I\'m with a grown man, I can\'t be chained to him every second of the day to make sure he doesn\'t cheat.  That is what commitment is <i>supposed</i> to be about.   And who wants to live like that anyway?  I know I don\'t.   <br><br>I\'m starting to agree (gasp,  gasp) with Michael Baisden on this one.  Why not just tell your woman (or man) that you want to step out.  If that\'s cool, then you\'ll have an \'open relationship\' --   if it ain\'t cool, you\'ll deal with the consequences.    Just be honest about it.   <br><br>And if you can\'t commit, DON\'T GET MARRIED.<br><br>Damn.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12184330">Baracktopia</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12184330" class="dsq-comment-message">I agree with everything you said, and your significant other should be the one who cares and not go there.  I think that it\'s just too easy for it to happen, and you have situations where someone will like the challenge of messing with your man, or they will think he\'s fine, and before you know it, they\'re flirting and then guess what - it happens.<br><br>I know bc it happened to a close friend of mine, right under her nose. A coworker pursued her man and before you know it, they hooked up. And her man was very committed and loved her.  It devastated her.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12185593">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12185593" class="dsq-comment-message">Will power and discipline just are no competition for a man weak in the flesh.<br>Often times, the \'good guys\' the ones who do committ and who do strive for fidelity...they are weak for the flesh. They are not doing drugs or gambling and sex is about the only vice they have.  <br><br>No man is flawless and every person you meet has one of 3 vices, sex, money or drugs...many folks have more than one of the three..but everybody has one of \'em.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12185508">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12185508" class="dsq-comment-message">"Men cheat bc they can tell a woman straight up that they are married and that triflin heffa won\'t care. Same w/ men who stray w/ married women."<br><br>Which goes straight to values. Things like committment, honor, integrity, honesty, fidelity.  All these things are values.<br><br>The very values that many folks look down on and think others who strive to uphold them and who respect them are being judgmental.<br><br>Those who lack values consistently want to tell those with them, that somehow, they are wrong for not only having those values, but for having the courage of conviction to express them.<br><br>Then, they wonder why the world is going to hell in a hand basket.<br><br>sigh</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12186791">rorysmomma</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12186791" class="dsq-comment-message">I don\'t often agree with you, but I do agree on this,  the ability to choose, think, reason and have values is what separates us from the animals.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12183892">isonprize</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12183892" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12183892" class="dsq-comment-message">But I still ask the question -- Why get married in the first place?  If you KNOW you like it with diffferent people, WHY GET MARRIED?</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12184146">Angelar</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12184146" class="dsq-comment-message">I might ask if you are married or have been married and maybe you already know the answer to your question.   People marry for many different reasons...nothing is one answer for anyone so let us not pretend that silliness.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12184414" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12184414">isonprize</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12184414" class="dsq-comment-message">I don\'t think it\'s silly at all.   It gets to the heart of what marriage is.   There are laws that govern it.  Some would argue that is speaks to the foundation of modern civilization.   <br><br>What is marriage? <br><br>Is it a commitment of two people to each other for life? -- or just until one doesn\'t want to be married anymore?   <br><br> Is it monogomous?  or does it allow for "steppin\' out" when one gets bored?<br><br>(And this doesn\'t even touch on the marriage between a man and a woman  v.   homosexuals who want the right to marry,  property rights, medical benefits, citizenship, etc.)</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12184571" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12184571">Angelar</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12184571" class="dsq-comment-message">Are you only looking at the culture in the U.S. which is monogomous or are you also taking into the cultures that allow marriages of men with many wives?   Which is interesting right there...I don\'t know of any cultures that allow women to have many husbands and discard them at whim...hmm!</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12184706">isonprize</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12184706" class="dsq-comment-message">The culture is the U.S. which is <i>SUPPOSED</i> to be monogomous...</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12188885">Amaya</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12188885" class="dsq-comment-message">I guess it depends on how one defines \'whim\'.  I don\'t think anyone is supposed to be discarded on a whim, in theory, though the practice is obviously the opposite.  If a woman is not procreating, she is \'cursed\' -- that is her one true value in many societies eyes, right?   Her other value is how much money you can make off her family connections.   But I don\'t know.<br><br>Off topic, remember when being a \'divorcee\' was something titillating, sexy and upper class?  At least, I do, right until the mid80s.  Now, it seems like everyone is divorced, big whoop.<br><br>Famous Polyandry:<br>1) certain Mongolians (one woman, two husbands - usually brothers)<br>2) matriarchal polynesians (one woman, many lovers, woman\'s brothers are more important male role models in a child\'s life than the child\'s sperm donor)<br>3) american hippie communes<br><br>Famous Polyandry, individual division, no shame or secrets:<br>1)  Cleopatra (her brother, Julius Caesar, Mark Antony; serial monogamy, yes -- but at least she was allowed it)<br>2)  Empress Wu?<br>3)  Nina Hartley <br><br>Honorable Mention -- the Opposites:<br>1) OT Jews -- bedding one\'s dead husband\'s brother to procreate in the dead husband\'s name?  -- a woman\'s value is as a uterus for the sake of the group  -- as opposed to<br>2) Purdah (and not just in India) -- once the husband is dead, wifey dies, too -- a woman\'s value is as a vagina for the sake of the individual.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12185407">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12185407" class="dsq-comment-message">Isonprize.<br><br>I assume you have been in a relationship with a man that you loved. When you were in that relationship did you KNOW you would like it with different people? Or did you believe that the one you were with, no matter who else you could like, was the one you wanted to be with, build a life with, have kids and family with?</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12185996">Angelar</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12185996" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12185996" class="dsq-comment-message">Go for it , get it over with.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12187448">Angelar</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12187448" class="dsq-comment-message">If you know the answer dont ask the question.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12188672">Amaya</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12188672" class="dsq-comment-message">Why get married? There\'s more to marriage than love.  How many women back in the day got married, not because of a man himself, but because of the promise of having a baby of their own?  Or because they wanted that man\'s status?  The man could do whatever he wanted as long as at the end of the day she was the Official Girl.  She\'d play the \'saint/Jackie\' role.<br><br>Or she\'d play the Mrs. Strom Thurmond/Daughter of Gotti role (getting pregnant by other guys, while the husband got to pretend his virility was still \'all that\').  She would do whatever she wanted, too, as long as at the end of the day she kept up her end of the \'You\'re My Official Man\' bargain.<br><br>Humans are not monogamous by nature.  It takes work.  A lot of work.  God bless everyone who works at it (those who haven\'t been tempted by opportunity don\'t count).</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12183373" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12183373" href="http://leftistmoon.wordpress.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">WordSmith</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12183373" class="dsq-comment-message">The husband I divorced because he voted for Reagan.  The real reason - infidelity.  And you know what?  He seemed so fucking befuddled when I told him there had been plenty of opportunities for me to cheat with other men.  I got hit on \'all the time.\'   It\'s what YOU do.  There were things important to me - my vows. Christ!  I had NEVER said anything like that to ANYONE.  This was some serious shit.  And then to give birth after being in labor for some 30 hours (back in the old days) - you don\'t just up & do some weird ass shit.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12202690">APeach</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12202690" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'d divide cheaters within two broad categories: ego and circumstance.<br><br>Ego is pretty self-explanatory, selfish and draws little to no sympathy: It was done because the person thought they could get away with it (you\'re still married if you\'re out of town on business); to prove virility and/or power; to re-live youth/past glory; or out of a feeling of finally experiencing what one "missed out on" when s/he was younger. <br><br>Cheating because of circumstance is another animal altogether. Without a doubt, It\'s still selfish. The person who cheated still exercised free will when doing so. But it\'s different because of motive, or lack thereof initially. Perhaps there was a rough spot in the marriage. You could grow apart. You could feel as if the other spouse won\'t grow up. A spouse can be working a "double shift"--at work and again at home. Perhaps it was finances--and I\'m sorry, you could throw it down like "Sunshine" but if the finances aren\'t in order or suddenly threatened (especially if the other spouse is the culprit) it doesn\'t matter. The spouse could have a hard time finding a job and decide to stop looking altogether. It could be illness. It could be caretaking of a parent or elder. The death of that parent or elder. It could be child rearing. Trying to raise emotionally difficult children or severely disabled ones. One that\'s facing serious disease. Or the death of a child after that disease, or in an accident. <br><br>It could be a 1000 reasons why when life happens. And you\'re not looking for an affair--you\'re looking for relief. A sympathetic ear, a shoulder to cry on. But like in the movie, "When Harry Met Sally," that shoulder to cry on can *quickly* turn into something else entirely, especially when you\'re blind and/or in denial to the danger around the bend. <br><br>Look, there are NO perfect marriages because we are not perfect people. There will ALWAYS be stress of some sort. Most of the time it\'s not as cut and dried as "if you wanna fuck different people, then don\'t get married." Most people don\'t set out to destroy their marriages. There are lots and lots of shades of gray, and they get caught up. We can ALL get caught up, too (and sometimes, it seems the most self-righteous/prideful are the very ones who get surprised). <br><br>What makes the difference is 1) RECOGNIZING and BELIEVING that "this too, can happen to you" and 2) when life happens, *HOW* we handle the stress and keep balance and equilibrium in the marriage. <br><br>A former pastor at my hometown church used to say (in so many words): "If you haven\'t had a trial or tribulations--just keep livin\'." As a kid, I didn\'t get it. <br><br>As an adult, I most certainly do.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12204897">friskee1</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12204897" class="dsq-comment-message">i defintely agree with this sentiment. if you\'ve invested years into your marriage, just walking away from it because of infidelity would b pointless without thinking things through. especially if you have kids in the mix. no one ever thinks about what role the "cheatee" played in why the marriage was destroyed in the first place. you knew what type of person that you married and if he/she was running aroun don you in the first place, then marriage isn\'t gonna change that. but if he happened to be a good man, but got caught up, then something was wrong in the relationship anyway that he either tried to warn you about but you wouldn\'t listen and instead he had to do him. happens all the time</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12195565" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12195565" href="http://www.actsoffaithblog.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Acts Of Faith Blog</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12195565" class="dsq-comment-message">Thanks for this, CPL. It was a nice post!<br><br>Bottom line is people lack discipline, self-control, values and morals. The end.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12200965">spirit_55z</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12200965" class="dsq-comment-message">Succinctly put, and I 100% concur!</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12193395">Myth</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12193395" class="dsq-comment-message">I think this issue may be more easily pinpointed if it were reversed. What are the qualitied of those limited number of men who DO NOT cheat. The reasons men do cheat are as long as you can list with none being justifiably acceptable.<br>The men I know who DO NOT cheat: have values and take them seriously; came from "function" upbringing in families; they consciously make the choice not to cheat; are committed types of human beings to everything in life including vows<br><br><br>Men who cheat do so because they can,  generally because they have no values that  matter to them that keep them from cheating. Often that firm foundation they were brought up in falters; flesh is weak. Women make it easy for men to cheat out of their desperation to have someone, anyone. Men can\'t do anything that women won\'t let them do (period).</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12204103">TAG60</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12204103" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12204103" class="dsq-comment-message">all of a sudden you don\'t have values cos you cheated? Lets stop being emotional or sanctimonious bout this. I am guessing you mean values from a religious standpoint right? Are you above any sin? I sincerely doubt that. Lets not forget that there is no hierarchy of sin. If you do something that is the total antithesis of being a christian/Muslim, be it stealing a pair of hair clips from the beauty supply store or what have you, you are still lacking in values...which puts you in the same category as the dude who is cheating.<br>If you have never talked smack bout someone else, spread rumors, lusted after your friend\'s man blah blah blah..i could go on...cast the first stone.Hell..if you have ever had premarital sex, don\'t even comment.<br>In the case of Sanford, my issue with him isn\'t that he cheated. Its the fact that he lied to his constituents, left a power vacuum in his office and nobody could locate him. Plus, he used state fund to aid his cheating. That man\'s personal life is none of my business. I am far from perfect. And lets not make infidelity the numero uno problem afflicting the sexes.<br>We need to ask ourselves the reasons why a lot of people are getting married. <br>And your last paragraph..."Men can\'t do anything that women won\'t let them do (period).". That is on some other type of bull! Excuse my french. You don\'t own this man/woman. If he wants to go out there and cheat he will. You can not stop a man from cheating.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12207051" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12207051">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12207051" class="dsq-comment-message">I compeletely agree..nothing but BULL!!  Just cause someone puts a gun in your hand, don\'t mean you got to pull the trigger!!<br><br>Don\'t matter what a women does, that is like that lame..she  was dressed like a ho, had on a short skirt/fishnethoseanklechain and minidress BBULL...Please if she left her front door open, that means you can ROB her, GMAB  ....you the one that ACTED on it!!<br><br>That\'s on YOU!!</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12197927" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12197927" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12197927" href="http://blackdiamond2008.blogspot.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">ASmith</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12197927" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12197927" class="dsq-comment-message">I think you\'re right, with this, Myth. I\'ve heard the gamut of explanations, ranging from dudes who did it because they could and men who did it because they thought they had no other option and offer sob stories about how controlling and uncaring their wives/significant other can be. I don\'t buy the latter; if it\'s not working, put your best foot forward to fix it and if that doesn\'t help leave.<br><br>I realize that\'s way more easily said than done but you know what? Relationships are not easy and maybe if we stop thinking they\'re supposed to be and started treating them like they deserve some attention and some effort, folks would cheat less.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12184712" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12184712" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12184712">Angelar</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12184712" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12184712" class="dsq-comment-message">We will not solve the issue of marriage or why people cheat on this thread.   Actually I am laughing now.  We are human, we are men and women and if you stop to think for a few seconds how imperfect we are and how our upbringings affect how we make decisions...none of us are, or will ever be the "perfect" mate, married or unmarried.<br><br>Lets give this marriage subject a rest.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12183425" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12183425" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12183425" href="http://twitter.com/KACrummie" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">twitter-23875783</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12183425" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12183425" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'m glad someone is telling it like it should be told. No person ever deserves to die and I feel for his family, most of all his wife and kids. But the facts are there. He was fooling around with this little girl (yes, little girl) and got caught in the worst way.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12185655" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12185655" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12185655">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12185655" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12185655" class="dsq-comment-message">She became a woman the day she could reproduce. The law says she was legal at 18 and no woman is a girl at twenty. she might be dumb and unexposed but she is no little girl.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12186230" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12186230" href="http://twitter.com/KACrummie" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">twitter-23875783</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12186230" class="dsq-comment-message">.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12196242" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12196242" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12196242">Nardwilly</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12196242" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12196242" class="dsq-comment-message">People get married for other reasons than a steady and exclusive sex partner.  Things happen in marriages that can make cheating easier.  I know of family men that have cheated on their wives, love their wives, respect their family and children and have steady girlfriends.<br><br>I\'ve seen men like that in my father’s generation and mine.  I am a man.  These men were and are mentors and guidepost for me in my family life.  I know of two that got caught and it affected their family adversely.  I  know of others that it remains a secret, (no broad public knowledge) and the children love and respect their Dad.  The wives and husbands demonstrate a loving and caring relationship.<br>Why?  The husbands put family first.  It was just sex.   <br><br>It is still wrong.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12196588" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12196588" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12196588">isonprize</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12196588" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12196588" class="dsq-comment-message">But in Steve McNair\'s case, just sex turned into just dead.    And from the picture of their vacation together it appeared to be way more than \'just sex.\'<br><br>Just sex can only happen between two people who know that it\'s only \'just sex\'    If it turns out that  this chick pulled the trigger, obviously, she believed it was way more than \'just sex.\'  And if someone else killed them both, obviously, he was in the wrong place at the WAY wrong time...</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12197248" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12197248" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12197248">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12197248" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12197248" class="dsq-comment-message">"Just sex can only happen between two people who know that it\'s only \'just sex\' "<br><br>Nope, only one person has to believe it is \'just sex\' and not be emotionally attached...and typically that is the male.<br><br>"And from the picture of their vacation together it appeared to be way more than \'just sex.\'"<br><br>See, this is how women get it twisted. Just cause a guy is laughing and having fun doesn\'t mean it is more than sex.  Hell, guys laugh and have fun with the guys, and it has nothing to do with sex.  The problem is women seem to be blind to the fact that a man can do things that he enjoys with you and it doesn\'t mean he likes or loves you...he is having a good time most times cause he knows she IS going to give up some butt in the end and that alone puts him in a GREAT mood.<br><br>It is so sad that women deceive thenselves into believing otherwise. <br><br>Just like those posts yesterday, where the girl beleived cause he put her up in a condo(which he didn\'t) bought her an Escalade and was being seen in public with her that she was more than a piece of ass DESPITE him being married.<br><br>NAW...it just means he is doing what he enjoys and getting away with it.<br><br>And when the Iranian woman figured out the deal, as he was dumping her ass, her pride&dignity couldn\'t handle it...she had told her family and friends he was marrying her..she couldn\'t face the truth..she was inDEED a piece of ass..so she blew his lying ass away and killed herself.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12198765" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12198765" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12198765">Nardwilly</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12198765" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12198765" class="dsq-comment-message">There was a possible cultural difference.  Most American women would know the score.  Few financially successful, despite Lifetime movies, leave a wife and kids after 4 months with a young woman working as a waitress in a bar.   Not gonna happen.  I am sorry they died, but McNair should have known they were not playing the same game.<br><br>Whoever Doug Christie\'s teammates were chilling with knew wifey was number 1.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12230921" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12230921" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12230921" href="http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">CPL</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12230921" class="dsq-comment-message">Jackie Christie is a crazy woman.  Her whole life is centered around being Mrs. Doug Christie and trust me, at this point, Doug is totally and thoroughly p-Whipped.  Should he ever decide to cheat on Jackie, he can and he will find ways to get out of those handcuffs she\'s slapping on him.<br><br>I don\'t care what she says; following him around on the road like that says she doesn\'t trust HIM.  The groupies are going to be there - she\'s neglecting her family following his ass on the road all year.  I remember Sacramento traded his ass because of all the drama Jackie brings with her when she goes on the road.  I think I read somewhere, Doug puts a travel clause for Jackie in his NBA contracts - but the line of teams are getting short for wanting to deal with an NBA player brining excess baggage with him before he even hits the court.<br><br>I\'m just surprised he hasn\'t cheated yet.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12201914" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12201914" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12201914">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12201914" class="dsq-comment-message">Yep!<br>I think there was a cultural gap, in terms of her heirtage, but there was also a whiteentitlement mindset that contributed to her purely egotistical self-concept that she was ALL that and the trophy that a black male wants, to the degree that he was going to leave his Blackwife and Blackids for her.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12195124" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12195124" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12195124">ChrisChambers</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12195124" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12195124" class="dsq-comment-message">We cheat NOT because we can. We cheat because our spouses/partners/f-buddies let us.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12198340" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12198340" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12198340" href="http://leftistmoon.wordpress.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">WordSmith</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12198340" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12198340" class="dsq-comment-message">Bullshit.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12198501" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12198501" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12198501">ChrisChambers</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12198501" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12198501" class="dsq-comment-message">Fine. Then we agree to disagree. No need to use obscenities--so what are you? ;-)</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12201228" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12201228" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12201228" href="http://leftistmoon.wordpress.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">WordSmith</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12201228" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12201228" class="dsq-comment-message">Don\'t throw up the smokescreen about using obscenities.  We use them all the time here - some of us more than others.<br><br>I call \'bullshit\' on your "let us" supposition - not you.<br><br>I\'m responsible for my choices and actions.  I\'m not about to take on the role of policing my mate, significant other or spouse.  They will face or deal with the repercussions of their choices and actions just like I do with mine.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12202173" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12202173" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12202173">Nardwilly</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12202173" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12202173" class="dsq-comment-message">I beleive the "let us" in his statement is not about spying, it is about accountability and responsibility.  If your mate/significant other is accountable for expenditure of time, effort, and money,  cheating is not possible.  That kind of accounatbilty builds and maintains trust in a relationship.  <br><br>It would mean sharing of e-mail passwords, bank account sign-ons, credit card sign-ons, and voicemail passwords.  So it would be a couple decision to not allow opportunity for cheating in the relationship.  <br><br>My wife and I were seperated for three years.  When we got back together we required STD test from each other.  We have never looked at the results.  Complete openness creates trust and accountability.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12232516" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12232516" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12232516">Val</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12232516" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12232516" class="dsq-comment-message">Nardwilly - it isn\'t necessary to share any email passwords, bank and credit card sign ons or voice mail passwords.  The onus is on the individual to choose not to cheat besides getting access to passwords does not prevent someone from cheating.  We make our own decisions and we decide to cheat or not to cheat.<br><br>Regarding the excercise of requiring an STD test after reconciliation but choosing not looking at the results . . . . Well. . .that is a decision you are both happy with so I will leave that alone.  Interesting though.  :-)</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12197841" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12197841" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12197841" href="http://blackdiamond2008.blogspot.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">ASmith</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12197841" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12197841" class="dsq-comment-message">That\'s a total cop out. What do you mean "let you?" Get some self-control and accept responsibility. I don\'t care what the other person is or isn\'t doing for you, what you do is on you and only you.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12195459" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12195459" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12195459">isonprize</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12195459" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12195459" class="dsq-comment-message">Isn\'t that a cop out?   Does a man let \'his woman\' flirt with another man when he\'s out of town on business?  Or does she do it because she wants to?<br><br>Does a wife let her husband have sex with the secretary at lunch?   Or does do it because he wants to?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12195444" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12195444" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12195444">eclecticbrotha</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12195444" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12195444" class="dsq-comment-message">Not necessarily.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12195997" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12195997" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12195997">ChrisChambers</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12195997" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12195997" class="dsq-comment-message">I mean it happens because  our better halfs/etc. often enbale us, directly, indirectly. Greed or co-dependency, ennui or naivete, hyper religious loyalty--the reasons are many for enabling or tolerating this stuff. Even encouraging it.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12196532" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12196532" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12196532">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12196532" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12196532" class="dsq-comment-message">Sorry, the only person that is responsible for an individuals action is themselves. There is no such thing as \'he/she MADE me do it"<br><br>That is nothing but sheer lack of accountability, never wanting to be responsible for your own actions, choices and decisions.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12204177" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12204177" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12204177">TAG60</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12204177" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12204177" class="dsq-comment-message">Thank You! I really hate how folks use that phrase, "you let him cheat on you".<br>Like you got the deeds to the person\'s life/actions or somn.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12196398" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12196398" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12196398">isonprize</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12196398" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12196398" class="dsq-comment-message">Okay, but doesn\'t that still give the person doing the cheating a free pass?    Still sounds like an excuse to me.   <br><br> If commitment is the expectation, then the person doing the cheating, no matter the reason  <i>(Greed or co-dependency, ennui or naivete, hyper religious loyalty--the reasons are many for enabling or tolerating this stuff.)</i>  is still responsible for their own actions.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12196544" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12196544" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12196544">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12196544" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12196544" class="dsq-comment-message">It is nothing BUT an excuse.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12198337" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12198337" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12198337">ChrisChambers</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12198337" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12198337" class="dsq-comment-message">Oh come off it people! Have some herbal teas and calm the f- down! <br>OF COURSE it\'s not s free pass and of course you are the master of your own will, ethics. And yes there is a victim is all of this crap. Funny how we are ambivalent when he/she\'s on camera, though eh? Which segways to the point: peel open high profile cheating situations, or even your neighbors, and you just may find a partner, spouse, girlfriend, boyfriend whatever who for whatever reason sees/smells/hears it coming, and balks. Or goes into denial. Or runs off to friends, pastors, whomever rather than confronting the bedrock issues. Or perhaps the bedrock issues are something no one wants to face (cheating as by product, not the thing of itself).<br><br>Very, very few people are mere canines in heat. These things are triggered, perpetuated by forces more than that or plain ego.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12200111" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12200111">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12200111" class="dsq-comment-message">Huh?  I am soooo not upset. The remark was a simple truth.<br><br>"These things are triggered, perpetuated by forces more than that or plain ego."<br><br>I completely disagree. It is all ego. All self-centered focus on their individual desires, wants and needs. To suggest, infer or imply otherwise is nothing but an excuse. It is a denial of accountablity, taking ownership for one\'s own actions.  Even if someone puts a gun in your hand...you do not have to pull the trigger.<br><br>Your pulling the trigger, is solely an act of deliberate will on the part of the shooter.<br><br>Don\'t matter if you were given the gun..YOU shot it!!<br>YOU bear the consequences of YOUR actions.<br><br>Did your mom, let you get away with blaming your lil brother or sister, for shyt...cause that is what this sounds like.  He, he, he, but, but, but, her, her, momma they hit me first, they ate cookies too, yes I know you said not to! But, you see what HAD HAPPENED was.....<br><br>PUHLEEEEEEZE!!<br><br>BTW, I do not usually do this but..it is segue</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12198481">isonprize</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12198481" class="dsq-comment-message">Chris,<br>what you said here is WAY  different from:<br><br> <i>We cheat NOT because we can. We cheat because our spouses/partners/f-buddies let us.</i><br><br>Just sayin\'...</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12198563">ChrisChambers</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12198563" class="dsq-comment-message">The first line was a nice blogger sound byte. It got your attention, didn\'t it? Such is why we need newspapers, news magazines, old school Walter Cronkite TV hahaha.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12200885">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12200885" class="dsq-comment-message">Attention grabber headlines should also be consistent with the point you are making.<br><br>Are you saying you said one thing and meant otherwise, and therefore actually mislead the reader as to what your point was?<br><br>Which means you are the one who needs to calm down, instead of blaming the reader.<br><br>ooops, but blaming the reader WOULD be consistent with what your initial grabber line said.<br><br>hmmmmm...now tell us again what DID you mean?<br><br>Sipping my tea, slowly and contentedly.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12198728" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12198728">isonprize</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12198728" class="dsq-comment-message">Adding honey to my green tea...  LOL<br><br>Peace</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12231531">Val</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12231531" class="dsq-comment-message">no Chris.  The responsibility is yours.  You own it.  Has nothing to do with who you are with or the circumstances. You own that decision.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12243922">Amaya</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12243922" class="dsq-comment-message">Chris, I know exactly what you are talking about and what you are saying -- and I\'ve seen it, both sides; and been there, both sides.<br><br>I guess others have lived more blameless lives than you or I.  But the truth of the matter is, for me, you\'re right.  Though the onus is on the cheater for acting upon that desire, there is also an onus on the cheatee who figures out something is not right but does nothing (or little) to correct the situation beyond putting the blinders on... or telling themselves \'at least they come home to me\' after each separate incident.<br><br>Mechelle knew.<br><br>That\'s why I loved that white lady, Jenny Sanford.  She\'s the ONLY public figure of a woman I\'m aware of with the balls to attempt to follow through on the \'you get one more chance -- and I\'m not immediately appearing beside you in a public show of forgiveness as damage control if you eff up.\'<br><br>I don\'t see the Sanford\'s divorcing, for all that; but again, Jenny Sanford has gone above and beyond what women usually feel it necessary to do when their man cheats.  She didn\'t lie about having no idea.  She didn\'t mark her territory by standing beside him for the millionth time in front of the press when news immediately broke.   She didn\'t call out the women her husband slept with as liars, or homewreckers.  I really hope she continues to handle her business without blinders.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12230545" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12230545" href="http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">CPL</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12230545" class="dsq-comment-message">Chris, I respect your opinions; I really do.<br><br>That\'s why what I\'m about to say is going to blow your theory out of the water.<br><br>Many years ago, I met a major league ballplayer who showed me mad attention whenever he came to town.  Wined and dined - the whole nine yards.  I was a very naive 25 year old who believed I found Prince Charming, and fell deeply in love.<br><br>Then, when things started getting serious, he asked me to go on the road with him.  Cool, right?<br><br>But one of his teammates saw me; saw I wasn\'t a groupie, and got in homeboy\'s grill and told him "She\'s a nice girl - you better tell her your situation. She\'s too nice to lead on like that.  And if you don\'t tell her, I will - I have a daughter near her age and I\'d damned sure want her to know what a jackass you are."<br><br>To which my would-be lover told him to drink a glass of STHU, and stay out his "business".<br><br>Anyway, as circumstance would have it, some kids asked me to get my guy\'s autograph on a baseball card.  As I turned over the card to read his stats, the stats that were included: <b>"Wife and two kids."</b><br><br>I can\'t tell you how I managed after I saw that.  My hopes and dreams - crashed like NASCAR.  My heart - Irreparably BROKEN.<br><br>I had to confront homebiscuits.  I wasted no time, but I acted like a suddenly grown woman.<br><br>"Why didn\'t you tell me you were married?" I asked.<br><br>"I\'ll give you the history when I come back to town", he said.<br><br>"Not waiting to hear it" I said.  And walked off.<br><br>My mom gave me the "I knew he was married but you needed to find out for yourself" speech after I\'d cried myself to sleep that night, and took the next day off work to compose myself.  My mom also said:<br><br><b>"If you were going to Seattle with him, you needed to know that all you would ever be is one of his women on the road.  So, if you went that route, get all you can out of his ass and can all you get out of his ass.  But, I\'m glad you found out before you gave yourself to him (I was a virgin) because if you gave yourself to him and found out after, the USA wouldn\'t be big enough for his Black Ass to hide from your stepfather and me tracking him down and getting into that ass."</b><br><br>My stepfather had his Winchester out and was ready to go hunting at the next A\'s Game; not realizing my guy played for the opposition, LOL.<br><br>I don\'t think his wife "let" him cheat.  Then or ten years later when we ran into each other and he was still singing the same ol\' bullshyt.  And I still walked.<br><br>All parties have a CHOICE.  Homegirl had a choice to screw McNair - if he misled her, she would have been better off blackmailing him instead of blowing his ass away.<br><br>Long rant, but I see both sides of this equation = ALL PARTIES MAKE THE CHOICE.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12188552" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12188552">Amaya</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12188552" class="dsq-comment-message">My opinion only, flamesuit on:   There\'s infidelity, and there\'s open marriages. A spouse, male or female, who looks the other way while their significant other is getting some on the side is not being cheated on.  They are a participant in a form of open marriage, whether they can live with the truth or not.<br><br>They are not a victim.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12183676" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12183676">caribgirl</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12183676" class="dsq-comment-message">I think one of the reasons people cheat is the lack of intimacy in their marriages, and I don\'t mean just sex. Emotional intimacy. I have read many articles that suggest many extra-marital relations occur with work colleagues because people find it easy to start discussing problems they\'re having with a sympathetic co-worker and if its easier to connect emotionally with that person than the spouse, then the relationship can turn sexual. <br><br>Sometimes it is related to sex, if you can\'t articulate what you like or if you do your spouse isn\'t receptive. It\'s easier to give into temptation when someone else is offering it. Maybe the woman taking the two hour lunch has to be all conservative at home, but she can get her freak on during lunch.<br><br>I think the more powerful a man (fame, money, political status), the more women are attracted to him, regardless of how he looks (see flava flav). That is an incredible ego boost, and men that powerful usually have enormous egos already. When women are throwing their panties literally and figuratively at you daily, you have to be real disciplined to resist.<br><br>I don\'t think powerful women are an aphrodisiac as powerful men are.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12185622" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12185622">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12185622" class="dsq-comment-message">Most likely because men are not romantic fools when it comes to power like females are. Men are not drawn to power, they are drawn to BEING powerful.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12184114">Angelar</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12184114" class="dsq-comment-message">Can we also talk about how long we live today might affect/effect marriage.   In 1950 the life expectancy in the U.S. was 68 and I think it is late 80s now.   How long should a person be romantically enthralled with one person?   Is there a point when after a certain amount of years either spouse just gets bored and then gets "sparked" to use Gov. Sanford\'s term???</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12183411" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12183411" href="http://muzikalthoughts.blogspot.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Muzikal203</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12183411" class="dsq-comment-message">LOL@ the part about old women hitting on Obama. <br><br>I think people cheat because they think they can get away with it. Sanford was so cocky (no pun intended) that he thought he could just disappear to Argentina for 10 days and no one would notice. Even after his wife found out, that fool had the audacity to ask if he could continue to see his paramour. That\'s ballsy. <br><br>I\'ve seen a lot of comments on other sites about how men cheat because they aren\'t meant to be monogamous. Bullshit, if you as a man don\'t think you can be monogamous because of what you attribute to your genetic makeup and natural tendencies, then YOU shouldn\'t get married. Same goes for women. <br><br>Then there were other comments that the wife was no longer satisfying him sexually, well if you aren\'t satisfied in the relationship GET A DIVORCE. This isn\'t Europe in the 17th and 18th centuries, you can get a divorce rather easily these days, even if it can be expensive. <br><br>If you\'re in the "it\'s cheaper to keep her" camp and you and your wife/husband call yourselves in an open relationship, more power to you.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12184913">isonprize</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12184913" class="dsq-comment-message">And you gotta know that there are PLENTY of ol\' school black folk that fall in that \'cheaper to keep her\' camp.    You know how we do.<br><br>Uncle Joe and Aunt Sarah livin\' in separate houses, in separate towns, sometimes separate states, each with their own sweeties.   But let a wedding or a funeral happen, and there they are, together for the "show of family" <br><br>I have never understood that one either.  But like I\'ve said before, they didn\'t ask me...LOLOL</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12201111" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12201111">APeach</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12201111" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12201111" class="dsq-comment-message">Heh. It\'s pretty simple.<br><br>Old school separation is done to maintain benefits (by remaining legally married) and maintain sanity (self-explanatory). That way, everyone can save face, have some sort of financial safety net, and have some semblance of peace.<br><br>I may not agree with it, but I can see that there\'s a certain logic to it. YMMV.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12201497" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12201497">isonprize</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12201497" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12201497" class="dsq-comment-message">YMMV??</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12203775">APeach</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12203775" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12203775" class="dsq-comment-message">Oh. Sorry! :)<br><br>Your<br>Mileage<br>May<br>Vary</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12185752" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12185752">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12185752" class="dsq-comment-message">All those comments about whether he was satisfied in the marriage or whether she was having sex with him are nothing but Hogwash.  A woman is not responsible for a man cheating. Those are solely his actions and he is the only one responsible for what he does, not her.<br><br>Just like if someone hits you and you hit them back. You are responsible for hitting them, can\'t no body make you hit somebody...it is an act of wilful volition.  <br><br>I wish people would just quit saying that because it is irrational.<br><br>As far as the \'cheaper to keep her goes\'  and not wanting to give up half in divorce court well...I hope that last orgasm with Kazemi was great, cause Mechelle..got it ALL now.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12182757" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12182757">Town</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12182757" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12182757" class="dsq-comment-message">Didn\'t Bill Clinton say he cheated with Monica Lewinsky "because he could?"</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12185805" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12185805">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12185805" class="dsq-comment-message">Yepper, right on Oprah~</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12182849" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12182849" href="http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">CPL</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12182849" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12182849" class="dsq-comment-message">Yep, sure did.<br><br>And he appeared in public with a fat bruise on his face, cause Hillary dotted that eye for his ass.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12184851" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12184851">isonprize</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12184851" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12184851" class="dsq-comment-message">The Clintons have a relationship that to me, defies logic.  But then they didn\'t ask m -- LOL.   They both love power, they both, by all accounts were great parents to Chelsea.  But, also by many accounts, they both knew he was a ho from the very beginning.   To me, since they both knew it, they are \'in on the deal\'<br><br>I\'m talking about marriages where one partner just straight lies and figures that the lie won\'t catch up.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12185797" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12185797">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12185797" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12185797" class="dsq-comment-message">"I\'m talking about marriages where one partner just straight lies and figures that the lie won\'t catch up."<br><br>No such animal. Doesn\'t exist.  You know cause you quoted Chris Rock, no?</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12184466" href="http://muzikalthoughts.blogspot.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Muzikal203</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12184466" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12184466" class="dsq-comment-message">LOL, really?</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12201101">TAG60</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12201101" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12201101" class="dsq-comment-message">lmaooooo!!!</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12186399">mdargo</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12186399" class="dsq-comment-message">This week\'s TIME cover is on infidelity with a lengthy essay inside the magazine.  Curious about people\'s reaction to the article.<br><br>"Why Marriage Matters" by Caitlin Flanagan * 7/2/09<br><a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0%2C8599%2C1908243%2C00.html" rel="nofollow">www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1908243...</a></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12187163">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12187163" class="dsq-comment-message">"a lasting covenant between a man and a woman can be a vehicle for the nurture and protection of each other, the one reliable shelter in an uncaring world — or it can be a matchless tool for the infliction of suffering on the people you supposedly love above all others, most of all on your children."<br><br><br>O so very true!<br><br>When I say this folks want to bite my head off and call me judgmental, but it is the honest to God\'s truth:<br><br>"... on every single significant outcome related to short-term well-being and long-term success, children from intact, two-parent families outperform those from single-parent households. Longevity, drug abuse, school performance and dropout rates, teen pregnancy, criminal behavior and incarceration — if you can measure it, a sociologist has; and in all cases, the kids living with both parents drastically outperform the others.<br><br>Few things hamper a child as much as not having a father at home. "As a feminist, I didn\'t want to believe it," says Maria Kefalas, a sociologist who studies marriage and family issues and co-authored a seminal book on low-income mothers called Promises I Can Keep: Why Poor Women Put Motherhood Before Marriage. "Women always tell me, \'I can be a mother and a father to a child,\' but it\'s not true." Growing up without a father has a deep psychological effect on a child. "The mom may not need that man," Kefalas says, "but her children still do."<br><br><br>"Children who grow up in a household with only one biological parent," she found, "are worse off, on average, than children who grow up in a household with both of their biological parents, regardless of the parents\' race or educational background."</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12194036">dcrockett17</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12194036" class="dsq-comment-message">If memory serves, I saw a woman on the Today Show promoting her study of infidelity, which I believe focused on western, industrialized countries (US, Latin America, Europe). I never caught the name of the author or study. She said that her data indicated that there wasn\'t much difference in the amount of infidelity from one country to the next. What differed was the reaction to infidelity, where people from the U.S. were much more likely to end the relationship than any other country. She attributes this to our Puritan/Calvanist cultural heritage--a heritage clearly on display in this discussion--that involves much more romantic notions of marriage than other places. <br><br>I suspect infidelity is like any other form of "cheating" where opportunity makes the thief. That doesn\'t mean that *everyone* with opportunity cheats. Rather, more opportunity (e.g., increased travel, working longer hours, larger social networks, more private communication vehicles, etc.) simply increases the probability of cheating. Again, these things don\'t make someone cheat. But, I don\'t by this notion that groups of people (e.g., men, wealthy, poor, religious, non-religious, etc.) differ systematically in their "moral fiber" or in the seriousness of their marital vows. We often compare ourselves to previous generations of supposedly tougher moral makeup. But go back and look at the cultural products they made. Notice how rampant infidelity and divorce are in the old black and white films. Go listen to the blues. As the late, great Buck O\'Neil has said about baseball players using steroids: "If we had access to the stuff we\'d have used it too."<br><br>Much of the discussion to this point is about gender roles and infidelity. I suspect that the gender roles that our culture assigns us, and that we reinforce through our own behavior, also account for a lot of the differences between men\'s and women\'s propensity toward infidelity beyond simple opportunity structure. Almost all of women\'s cultural status accrues to the roles of mother and wife. Although more status comes to women for their professional accomplishments than in previous generations, even that is clearly mediated by the more traditional roles. That is, a professional-only woman certainly is not granted the same cultural status as a traditional wife/mother who is not in the paid labor force (no matter what they say on Fox News). And in both cases very little status accrues to women as sexual beings outside the roles of wife and mother. (If you doubt this, talk to any US teenager who lives with both parents. If you can get them to acknowledge that they weren\'t immaculately conceived, you\'ll find it\'s much easier for them to see/talk about dad\'s sexual identity than mom\'s.) In sharp contrast, men still have a good bit of status that accrues to their sexual identity. A mistress, especially a young one, clearly signals this. It\'s one major reason that so many men are indiscreet with affairs. (The payoff is in the status more than the sex.) On the flip side, when men reach an age when they can no longer be sexually active--an age increasingly delayed by performance-enhancing drugs--they become honorary women. Culturally, that\'s when we allow them to be openly dirty old men, when their potency is nil.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12204339" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12204339" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12204339">texasladybird</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12204339" class="dsq-comment-message">Great piece! <br><br>And I\'m glad somebody said it about McNair. While the man shouldn\'t have lost his life, if would have been where he was supposed to be (with his family!), I think the ending would have been different.<br><br>I have had some friend-girl\'s who thought it was OK to not have sex with their man. Like for long periods of time. And when they found out that their guy is steppin\' out, they were lookin\' all brand new. <br><br>I\'m not saying be a sex slave, but lets keep it real. If somebody will voluntarily have sex with Lil Wayne, ya man can find somebody to keep him satisfied. <br><br>On the flip side, men need to give a little too. When your woman says she isn\'t in the mood, instead of steppin\' out, think about when was the last time you told her she was beautiful. Bought her flowers for no reason. Took the kids for the afternoon so she had some time to shave her damn legs. Gave her a back rub and didn\'t expect anything in return. <br><br>Just my humble opionin.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12204860" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12204860" href="http://muzikalthoughts.blogspot.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Muzikal203</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12204860" class="dsq-comment-message"><blockquote>I have had some friend-girl\'s who thought it was OK to not have sex with their man. Like for long periods of time. And when they found out that their guy is steppin\' out, they were lookin\' all brand new.<br></blockquote><br><br>Shouldn\'t those men have more self-control than that?</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12205296" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12205296">friskee1</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12205296" class="dsq-comment-message">she shouldn\'t have held out in the first place</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12206279" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12206279" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12206279" href="http://muzikalthoughts.blogspot.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Muzikal203</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12206279" class="dsq-comment-message">Oh, so if she doesn\'t feel like having sex she should anyway because she doesn\'t want him creepin\'? That almost sounds like rape to me. I\'m sure guys can live without sex, and if something is going wrong medically, then relieve yourself.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12229105" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12229105" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12229105">texasladybird</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12229105" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12229105" class="dsq-comment-message">Now I\'m not advocating rape or anything like that. Rape is forcing yourself on someone. Choosing to have sex with your partner because it makes them happy, even when your motor may not be runnin\' at top speed is what I\'m talking about.<br><br>My point is that to me withholding sex or not having sex with your SO does nothing to help your relationship. <br><br>If there is a medical reason for a low libido, you should care about your SO enough to find out why. <br><br>If you are withholding sex in order to exert some sort of control over the other person, your relationship is already in trouble.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12204713" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12204713" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12204713" href="http://muzikalthoughts.blogspot.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Muzikal203</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12204713" class="dsq-comment-message">McNair\'s wife didn\'t know about the affair. What a horrible way to find out about it:<br><br><blockquote>The wife of slain quarterback Steve McNair may have only learned about the gridiron star\'s affair with a gorgeous young woman after the clandestine couple\'s grisly deaths, sources close to the football player said Sunday.<br><br>"She\'s blindsided by this," one source said of Mechelle McNair, who was holed up in her family\'s home just 6 miles from the condo her husband used to bed his mistress. "She\'s crushed. Her whole world is shattered."<br><br>Nashville cops confirmed that Steve McNair, 36, was killed by four bullets fired at close range, two of which hit him in the head, and ruled his death a homicide.<br><br>His lover, Sahel Kazemi, 20, died of a single gunshot from the same semiautomatic found on the floor under her body, police also said.<br><br>They stopped short of calling the slayings a murder-suicide carried out by Kazemi, but said they are not looking for any suspects.<br><br>Cops ruled McNair\'s death a homicide and have not ruled on Kazemi\'s death, citing the need for more tests.<br><br>Kazemi and McNair, a dad of four boys, were dating for several months, friends told cops; McNair apparently kept the affair a secret from his wife.<br><br>Photos obtained by <a href="http://TMZ.com" rel="nofollow">TMZ.com</a> show a smiling McNair parasailing on a recent tropical vacation with the curvy Kazemi, whom he met as she waitressed at a Dave & Buster\'s sports bar.<br><br>"He started to talk to her a little," Kazemi\'s aunt Sepideh Salmani told The Tennessean newspaper. "They exchanged phone numbers, and started dating from there."<br><br>Salmani said her beautiful, raven-haired niece believed that McNair was in the process of getting a divorce.<br><br>Kazemi\'s sister told The Florida Times-Union of Jacksonville that Kazemi had expected to wed McNair.<br><br>"She said they were planning to get married," Soheyla Kazemi told the paper."<br><br>County records do not indicate that a divorce is pending, but the McNair family home is up for sale for $3 million.<br><br>Investigators said McNair had been drinking at a pair of Nashville bars - Blue Moon Lagoon Bar and Loser\'s Bar - into the early-morning hours of Saturday and then returned to the downtown condo he shared with a pal.<br><br>Although neighbors have not reported hearing gunshots, cops believe McNair and Kazemi died about 2 a.m., nearly 12 hours before their bodies were found.<br><br>There was no sign of forced entry at the condo, and investigators are checking whether the couple had been having a "lovers\' quarrel," cops said.<br><br>It was not immediately known whom the pistol belonged to, although McNair did have a permit to carry a gun, police said.<br><br>Kazemi, who was raised by an aunt in Florida after her parents were killed in Iran, moved to Nashville with her ex-boyfriend, Keith Norfleet.<br><br>Norfleet, whom investigators want to interview, had a "volatile" relationship with Kazemi but was trying to win her back from McNair, Norfleet\'s stepmother said.<br><br>"They had a lot of jealousy in their relationship and they\'d fight and break up a lot," said Trudie Norfleet. "He loved her. ... He\'s awful torn up about it."<br><br>The quarterback, renowned in Nashville for his extensive work in the community, rented the condo overlooking the Titans stadium with sporting goods dealer Wayne Neeley, who called McNair\'s best friend after seeing the bodies sprawled on a couch.<br><br>"It\'s a picture I\'ll never get out of my head," a weeping Robert Gaddy told the Daily News. "It\'s the most terrible sight I\'ve ever seen."<br><br>"This was a great man, a man who\'d do anything for you," said Gaddy, who had been friends with the Heisman finalist since meeting him at Alcorn State University.<br><br>Read more: <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/2009/07/06/2009-07-06_untitled__3mcnair06m.html#ixzz0KVBkjXSP&C" rel="nofollow">http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/2009...</a> </blockquote><br><br>They were talking about him on the TJMS and saying how great of a person he was, I\'m thinking he wasn\'t THAT great considering how he died. I\'ll say he did some good things for the community, but I won\'t say "he was a great man."<br><br>Of course, I\'m not a football fan, so I\'m probably a bit more objective than someone who was a fan of his for years.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-12205771">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12205771" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12205771" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12205771">friskee1</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12205771" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12205771" class="dsq-comment-message">WAIT A SEC,<br>how is it that his wife had no clue he was creepin around? how come he wasn\'t home by curfew? now i\'m really starting to think kazemi did kill him after he told her that he wasn\'t divorcing his wife and that they wasn\'t getting married. no one deserves to die like this, but he should have stayed his ass at home with his wife working shit out.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-12205828">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12205828" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12205828" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12205828" href="http://muzikalthoughts.blogspot.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Muzikal203</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12205828" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12205828" class="dsq-comment-message">He was a grown ass man, do you think she really gave him a curfew? Especially since he had his own business ventures going on. It\'d be interesting to find out exactly WHAT he was telling his wife, but I do think it\'s entirely possible that she didn\'t know.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12223431" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12223431" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12223431">friskee1</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-12223431" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12223431" class="dsq-comment-message">he was a family man nearing 40. after 35 no married man hangs out all hours of the night just to be with his homeboys.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12243506" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12243506" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12243506">Amaya</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12243506" class="dsq-comment-message">\'it\'s entirely possible that she didn\'t know.\'<br><br>possible -- but not probable.  i have to side with friskee1 on this one.  she knew.  besides, a woman who is not paying that much attention to her mate is at fault for her mate creeping in the first place.  <br><br>people:  pay attention to your loved ones.  i have no sympathy for people (male or female) who intentionally close their eyes.  the mate who sees and tries to rectify the situation, that\'s the person who has my sympathy.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12205927" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12205927" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12205927">MsKitty</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12205927" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>The quarterback, renowned in Nashville for his extensive work in the community, rented the condo overlooking the Titans stadium with sporting goods dealer Wayne Neeley, <b>who called McNair\'s best friend after seeing the bodies sprawled on a couch.</b></i><br><br>Forgive me if this has been discussed (first day back from vacay), but shouldn\'t have 911 been the first number dialed?<br><br>I just feel so bad for the family.  Not only do they have to live with the loss, but now they\'ll have to endure a lifetime of whispering and gossip behind their backs.  McNair certainly didn\'t deserve to die but it shouldn\'t be overlooked that he has brought a measure of undeserved disgrace to his wife and children.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-12206252" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-12206252" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-12206252" href="http://muzikalthoughts.blogspot.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Muzikal203</a>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-12206252" class="dsq-comment-message">Yeah, a couple of us thought that was suspect. if it was REALLY as gruesome as Gaddy says, how the hell did the first guy walk past the scene, walk into the kitchen, then come back out and realize that they were dead, and THEN he called the best friend instead of 911. What the hell?</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-12232185">Val</span>\
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if(typeof(disqus_callback) == 'function') {
	var callback_params = Dsq.Utils.getRequestParams()['dsq_cbp'] || null;

	// We don't care about any errors in third-party code
	try {
		disqus_callback(callback_params);
	} catch (x) {
		if (typeof(console) != 'undefined' && typeof(console.log) == 'function') {
			// But it would be nice to let developers know about them
			console.log(x);
		}
		// pass
	}

	// HACK: We don't know if the callback wraps our container, which may
	// possibly result in a new DOM element.
	Dsq.container = document.getElementById('dsq-content');
}

})();




