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To be honest, I could care less so long as Obama wins the nomination by Tuesday (or early Wednesday at the latest).</br><br></br><br>But we should note that this undercuts Hillary's \"I've been vetted\" nonsense.  No she hasn't and neither has her husband, post-presidency.  It's just Obama chose not to talk about the skeletons in their closet.</br><br></br><br>Bill can dj a strip club for all I care.  I just want him and Hillary out of this race.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_03:56:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "d1a8e45844ef20a90904a65e60371f42", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967994": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Droping this great article found on <a href=\"http://EURweb.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">EURweb.com</a>. THIS IS A MUST READ.<br></br><br>JASMYNE CANNICK: Anti-Black attitudes, alleged Democrats, Black political deference, and why I\u2019m still a Democrat.</br><br></br><br>The short and sweet of it is that the Democratic National Committee\u2019s rules and bylaws committee decided to seat all of Florida and Michigan\u2019s delegates at the convention in August. </br><br></br><br>The catch? They only get a half-vote. This is to penalize them for moving up their primaries. The committee\u2019s ruling gave Clinton 105 pledged delegates from Florida and 69 from Michigan, with a total of 87 votes. </br><br></br><br>Obama received 67 pledged delegates from Florida and 59 from Michigan, casting a total of 63 votes. The decision keeps Obama\u2019s lead in tact.</br><br></br><br>Enter angry Clinton supporters who are claiming that the Democratic Party is throwing the election away on an \u201cinadequate Black man\u201d and that if she isn\u2019t the nominee\u2014hello McCain! Can you imagine the fallout if an Obama supporter had been quoted in the media calling Clinton an \u2018inadequate woman,\u2019 let alone an \u2018inadequate white woman?\u2019 The media would have a field day\u2014no make that week!</br><br></br><br>At election time, I fully expect the Republican Party to try and incite mass hysteria at the polls under the guise of morality\u2014and the Old Testament. What I don\u2019t expect is for members of my own party to throw temper tantrums and put aside common sense choosing to side with the opposition just because their candidate is losing. </br><br></br><br>These alleged Democrats\u2014the same ones screaming for universal healthcare, gay marriage, and an end to the war in Iraq, are willing to throw it all away if their candidate doesn\u2019t get the nomination.</br><br></br><br>Statements of Obama being an \u201cinadequate Black man\u201d clearly show that the Democratic Party, as liberal as we might want to claim ourselves to be, still carry anti-Black attitudes among its rank and file members. Attitudes that up until this point were for the most part covert, but over the past year have now become blatantly overt as Clinton supporters lash out in anger\u2014and desperation, the latest being at the DNC rules committee meeting with the comment of Obama being an \u201cinadequate Black man.\u201d</br><br></br><br>I\u2019d like to believe that the anger expressed by Clinton\u2019s supporters is because of their devotion to her as a candidate and perceived injustices. But after a bevy of racist comments from Clinton\u2019s supporters and the Clinton\u2019s themselves, I am more inclined to believe that there is a strong segment of Democrats, mostly white, who see Obama\u2019s ascension as threatening and it has nothing to do with Clinton\u2019s experience.</br><br></br><br>I came to this conclusion after repeated charges by Clinton supporters that if she didn\u2019t win the nomination that they were either not going to vote or were going to vote for McCain. Well that and Clinton\u2019s own admission that she\u2019s the more electable candidate, which if you listen to her closely sounds a lot more like she\u2019s touting her skin color than her experience.</br><br></br><br>This is much bigger than the notion that Clinton is the better candidate. Because if it was about her being the better candidate, then it would have been Obama is an \u201cinadequate man\u201d verses an \u201cinadequate Black man.\u201d And Clinton supporter Geraldine Ferraro would have blamed Obama\u2019s popularity on his sex rather than his race. No, this is about fear related to the unresolved racial tension between Black and white America in a country that has yet to officially apologize for its role in slavery and the years of institutionalized racism that have since followed leaving a bitter taste in the mouth of many Blacks.</br><br></br><br>With my one Democratic vote, I know I can voice my opposition against the Republican Party, their failed policies, and conservative principles that further promote economic and social depression. </br><br></br><br>What I struggle with is how to voice opposition in my own party where even those elected to represent my interests have conformed to the point where their own status within the Party and with the Clinton\u2019s has taken precedence over standing up against the Party\u2019s recent racist tirades. Tirades, that while mainly directed towards Obama, are a direct reflection of the Party\u2019s lingering anti-Black attitudes among some of its white members.</br><br></br><br>There\u2019s all this talk of party unification among Obama and Clinton supporters going into November, but very little has been said about reconciling with Black Democrats who after it\u2019s all been said and done, spent the last year watching Obama, a Black man, being called everything but a nigger (in public) and his wife Michelle a \u2018washer woman.\u2019 As one of those Black Democrats, am I expected to just turn the other cheek and continue on in a Party that is fine having Blacks as members, but divided on whether or not we\u2019re capable of serving as leaders or the Commander-in-Chief?</br><br></br><br>It\u2019s been 37 years since Democratic Representatives Shirley Chisholm, William Clay, George Collins, John Conyers, Ronald Dellums, Charles Diggs, Augustus Hawkins, Ralph Metcalfe, Parren Mitchell, Robert Nix, Charles Rangel, Louis Stokes, and DC Delegate Walter Fauntroy founded the Congressional Black Caucus. And even though Democrats are on the verge of having a Black presidential nominee, and we have 43 members currently serving in the CBC, the Democratic Party itself has been and continues to be mostly white led (male and female). From the DNC officers and Democratic Party organizational leadership, Black faces are far and few between on the leadership pages, which could explain the lingering pre-Reconstruction anti-Black attitudes among some white Democrats regarding Obama\u2019s ascendancy. </br><br></br><br>Earlier this year California Representative and CBC member Diane Watson said that when people her age in the Party are dead and gone that people Obama\u2019s age and younger could come in and run things. I just don\u2019t think I can wait until then\u2014in fact, I don\u2019t think the country can wait until then. </br><br></br><br>We need change now and not just a change in the White House, we need change in our own party before we self-implode. For far too long, Black voters have participated in political deference when  we should be asking our CBC brothers and sisters why, regardless of whom they are supporting for President, they are silent when members of the Party refer to their colleague (Obama is in the CBC), as an \u201cinadequate Black man?\u201d If he\u2019s an inadequate Black man, what does that make them? The Democrats need to be challenged on why minorities, females, and those under 30 are encouraged to vote, but not to lead, and why when they attempt to lead their voices are quickly drowned out. I need to know why it\u2019s more of an asset in California to be a gay male or female in the Democratic Party than to be Black\u2014straight or gay.</br><br></br><br>Democratic Presidential frontrunner Obama says it\u2019s time for \u2018change\u2019 and Clinton says that she\u2019s got the \u2018experience.\u2019 Well my experience with change is that it doesn\u2019t come without a struggle, but it does come. If I owe anything to these two candidates it\u2019s gratitude for awakening the need to ask why and to challenge the status quo in my own Party, which is much more gratifying at the end of the day than walking away in disgust with the whole damn process and declaring myself an Independent.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_04:10:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "4b7e06dfa072e954c98abbc8a39deaaa", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967995": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Um, that photo is kind of creeping me out. Baby salad?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_04:13:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "1530cfd6a17b2131db59bde71813d9a7", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967996": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "From Politico.com:<br></br><br>Clinton camp converging on New York Tuesday, and shedding staff</br><br></br><br>http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Clinton_camp_converging_on_New_York_Tuesday_and_shedding_staff.html</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_05:31:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "16a3951c529b41e0ea3e8fda2568ff35", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967997": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Sorry messed that link up.<br></br><br><a href=\"http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Clinton_camp_converging_on_New_York_Tuesday_and_shedding_staff.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Clinton camp converging on New York Tuesday, and shedding staff</a></br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_05:33:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "16a3951c529b41e0ea3e8fda2568ff35", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967998": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I've started to really dislike Harold Ford.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_07:19:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "fe326db7746add85eb4110b5924b4b27", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967999": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "That picture is so cute!!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_08:11:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "7c4455626754e1b9bc3be232b1024136", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968000": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Dan Rather really pissed me off this morning.<br></br><br>Someone emailed The Morning Joe crew telling them that until they dig into John McCain's pastors, they need to lay off of Obama's so called pastor problem. Dan Rather said that he suspected that emails like that are orchestrated. Yep, Dan Rather, who lost his job thanks to his reporting on Bush, thinks that any emails criticizing the media's coverage of Wright/Pfleger/Trinity are phoney! </br><br></br><br>Of course, resident MSNBC bubble head, Mica Briewzinsky, claimed that they did talk about Hagee and the two situations ar different. Rather also said that the reason why Hillary hasn't received flack for her religious affiliations is because nothing has been found. I guess they missed the memo about The Family.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_08:12:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "6a15e2f4a8734cebd4efee6381b0eb4f", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968001": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "From American Thinker:<br></br><br><a href=\"http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/was_the_iraq_war_worth_it.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Was the Iraq War Worth It?</a>\u2026and I challenge you to <b><i>read</i></b> the piece before just blindly answering the question!!!</br><br></br><br>And\u2026</br><br></br><br><a href=\"http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/for_liberals_soldiers_are_vict.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">For Liberals, Soldiers are Victims</a></br><br></br><br>Also, if there's any JJP readers in VA, hit me an email....working on a project.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_08:12:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968002": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Great piece by Jasmyne Cannick.  It is *precisely* why I stopped registering as a Democrat; no longer refer to myself as a Democrat; and will no longer cast a vote for someone SOLELY because they have a (D) after their name.<br></br><br>I expected this white resentment of Obama's ascension, primarily because I saw the same kind of resentment of Jesse Jackson; of L. Douglas Wilder; of David Dinkins; of Harold Ford; of Deval Patrick.  But I've also seen it with would-be U.S. Senator like Colorado's Mike Miles, who had happen to him precisely what we feared would happen to Barack: a Democratic party that nominated someone with fewer delegates because they were more electable (and not Black).</br><br></br><br>For too long, Black rank and file Democrats have obediently accepted the role of \"disgruntled employee\", instead of \"vested owner\".  With the ascension of Barack Obama, hopefully Black Democrats are learning that ownership has its privileges.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_08:28:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "25c2ebf4464c5d95fa227ddd4a0d2fe5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968003": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<a href=\"http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121236324804036403.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks\" rel=\"nofollow\">Count Every Half Vote!</a><br></br><br>\u201c<i>Her feminist supporters are also suggesting that their heroine is the victim of \"sexism.\" Meanwhile, if the superdelegates do give the nomination to Mrs. Clinton, many of Mr. Obama's supporters will cry \"racism.\" The identity politics that Democrats love to use against Republicans has now come back to haunt them.</i>\u201d</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_10:14:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3da39b121dc85e9bd8d9f861782bc8b9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968004": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Ted Kennedy just went in for surgery at the Duke Medical Center. Send him positive thoughts and prayers.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_10:26:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968005": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "onein4,<br></br><br>you've only STARTED to dislik the Dark Sith? What took you so long?</br><br></br><br>LOL</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_10:27:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968006": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "krk,<br></br><br>it's from Anne Geddes. She does interesting pics with babies.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_10:28:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968007": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "d,<br></br><br>The progress made in Iraq will continue to pressure the MSM and Obama to acknowledge our success.</br><br></br><br>Once Obama wraps up the nomination and he will pivot to the center. He is a smooth, cool political operator. Look how he played Wright and TUCC to consolidate his support among black voters, but now has disavowed the pastor and resigned the church in order to make himself more electable to moderates and independents. Black support remains firmly in tact.</br><br></br><br>Now, Obama has held to his firm anti-war, all-is-lost, surge won't make a difference stance, in order to keep the moveon money flowing. But soon he will 'take the money and run' to the center on this issue is well.</br><br></br><br>Flag pin. Wright. See the pattern?</br><br></br><br>Its all about the center. With the black vote and the far left anti-war vote forming the base of his support, he will now take politically expedient and opportunistic route, just like any other ambitious politician.</br><br></br><br>Expect to see Obama serve up a new brand of koolaid. </br><br></br><br>'Obama-lite,' anyone? Tastes great, less liberal. Care to take a sip?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_10:29:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968008": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I think regardless of what happens between Obama and Clinton, black people need to leave the Democratic party en masse and form independent parties and start from the ground up instead of shooting straight for the top.  Instead of starting at Governor or President, start with school board and city council.  We have the money to do it if we wanted to, if we can keep the Koreans living large and lovely with the hair and nails we could finance some independent candidates from the ground up to get things done.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_10:33:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "7c4455626754e1b9bc3be232b1024136", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968009": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I love the picture rikyrah.<br></br><br>Is this an Ann Gettes(sp) photo?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_10:42:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "9fcb7c771a7713dda01aa936fd426bfe", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968010": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "S,<br>Tastes great, less liberal...priceless.</br><br></br><br>The Trinity UCC element of the electorate wasn't going to disavow Obama just because he left the church. That would mean voting for McCain (who they don't like) or Clinton (who they don't like more). Unfortunately, that move isn't going to swing any votes to him.</br><br></br><br>Obama is going to go radically center once he gets the nomination. I expect a lot of attempts to \"clarify\" his previous statements on Iraq, the War on Terror, etc. I also expect the populace to see it for what it is: political pandering. </br><br></br><br>That's probably why he hasn't been to Iraq lately, because he's then left with two options: acknowledge the success and piss off Soros' crowd, or openly lie to the American public.</br><br></br><br>The question then becomes what does the anti-war crowd do? Do they run back to Hillary (who already threw them under the bus)?  Do they run to Bob Barr (who really won't win)? Or, God forbid, do they actually crawl back under their rocks?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_10:45:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968011": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<b>From the NYT...so now Obama will be held to the fire for not encouraging young Americans to join the Armed Forces..which is sad considering the backdoor draft that the Bushwhacker has been doing by using the National Guard to fight foreign wars. </b><br></br><br>June 2, 2008</br><br>Op-Ed Columnist</br><br>What Obama Left Out </br><br>By WILLIAM KRISTOL</br><br>Commencement speeches are hard.</br><br></br><br>I gave one at a college about seven years ago. I labored over it, consulting orations from years past, writing and rewriting drafts. I ended up with remarks that struck me \u2014 even while I delivered them \u2014 as banal and platitudinous. Luckily, no one seemed to be paying much attention \u2014 and at least I kept it short. I don\u2019t think I did too much damage to the enjoyment of the day by the graduating students and their parents.</br><br></br><br>Since then, whenever I look at the annual roundup of commencement addresses, I can\u2019t help but admire those who can pull off this mode of speechifying.</br><br></br><br>Barack Obama, you won\u2019t be surprised to learn, can pull it off. He spoke on the Sunday of Memorial Day weekend at Wesleyan University in Middletown, Conn., pinch-hitting for Senator Ted Kennedy, on the theme of service to our country. The speech was skillfully crafted and well delivered, the grace notes were graceful, and the exhortations to public service seemed heartfelt but not cloying.</br><br></br><br>The speech was a success. It\u2019s also revealing \u2014 about Obama\u2019s view of himself and of public service.</br><br></br><br>Obama chooses to introduce the notion of public service from an autobiographical point of view. In college, he explains, \u201cI began to notice a world beyond myself.\u201d So while his friends were seeking jobs on Wall Street, he applied for jobs as a grass-roots activist. And one day, a group of churches in Chicago offered him a job as a community organizer for \u201c$12,000 a year plus $2,000 for an old, beat-up car.\u201d</br><br></br><br>\u201cAnd I said yes.\u201d</br><br></br><br>Those four words form their own paragraph in the prepared text. Obama wants us to be impressed by the drama of his spurning the big bucks, by his bold acceptance of such a pittance of money in order that he could do good.</br><br></br><br>Leave aside the fact that two years elapsed between Obama\u2019s graduation from Columbia in 1983 and his heading off to Chicago in 1985. Dramatic foreshortening is, after all, sometimes necessary. And leave aside whether $14,000 in 1985 was really such a shockingly low salary for someone recently out of college \u2014 in inflation-adjusted dollars, it\u2019s about what we pay entry-level editorial assistants today at The Weekly Standard.</br><br></br><br>Obama\u2019s point is that he went on to do good in Chicago \u2014 and that the college graduates to whom he\u2019s speaking should follow in his exemplary footsteps. Of course, most politicians do admire themselves and their excellent careers. So perhaps one shouldn\u2019t make too much of Obama\u2019s sin of self-regard.</br><br></br><br>More striking is Obama\u2019s sin of omission. In the rest of the speech, he goes on to detail \u2014 at some length \u2014 the \u201cso many ways to serve\u201d that are available \u201cat this defining moment in our history.\u201d There\u2019s the Peace Corps, there\u2019s renewable energy, there\u2019s education, there\u2019s poverty \u2014 there are all kinds of causes you can take up \u201cshould you take the path of service.\u201d </br><br></br><br>But there\u2019s one obvious path of service Obama doesn\u2019t recommend \u2014 or even mention: military service. He does mention war twice: \u201cAt a time of war, we need you to work for peace.\u201d And, we face \u201cbig challenges like war and recession.\u201d But there\u2019s nothing about serving your country in uniform.</br><br></br><br>It can\u2019t be that the possibility of military service as an admirable form of public service didn\u2019t occur to Obama. Only the day before, Obama had been squabbling with John McCain about veterans\u2019 benefits. He said then, \u201cObviously I revere our soldiers and want to make sure they are being treated with honor and respect.\u201d</br><br></br><br>And the day after the Wesleyan commencement, Obama was in New Mexico, where he read an eloquent and appropriate Memorial Day tribute to our fallen soldiers.</br><br></br><br>But at an elite Northeastern college campus, Obama obviously felt no need to disturb the placid atmosphere of easy self-congratulation. He felt no need to remind students of a different kind of public service \u2014 one that entails more risks than community organizing. He felt no need to tell the graduating seniors in the lovely groves of Middletown that they should be grateful to their peers who were far away facing dangers on behalf of their country</br><br></br><br>Nor did Obama choose to mention all those college graduates who are now entering the military, either for a tour of duty or as a career, in order to serve their country. He certainly felt no impulse to wonder whether the nation wouldn\u2019t be better off if R.O.T.C. were more widely and easily available on elite college campuses.</br><br></br><br>Obama failed to challenge \u2014 even gently \u2014 what he must have assumed would be the prejudices of much of his audience and indulged in a soft patriotism of low expectations.</br><br></br><br>Was this a public service?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_10:46:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "208eec9c0e5cb9133c392af69f829c94", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968012": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Karmi,<br></br><br>Identity politics is what caused you to claim, ignorantly mind you, that Wright's and Cone's ideas about Black Liberation Theology were racism when they most definitely and demonstrably are not.</br><br></br><br>The IDENTITY POLITICS you promoted had you claiming VICTIMHOOD (for yourself perhaps) when none exists.  None exist by virtue of the ACTIONS  of Wright or Cone, etc. and none exist by virtue of KKK-like PREJUDICED words.</br><br></br><br>It's the ultimate in both HYPOCRISY and IDENTITY POLITICS for critics of Democrats or the identity politics of women and African-Americans to not only act offended by IMAGINED attacks against someone's IDENTITY but to have the nerve to act like it other people who engage in IDENTITY POLITICS when the basis of their criticism of women and African-Americans is based on an IDENTITY POLITICS paradigm perhaps of their (your) own.</br><br></br><br>So what we have here is some high-tech finger pointing with more HD fingers pointing right back at Republicans, etc. who gripe about the identity politics of others.</br><br></br><br>Republican rhetoric re: \"illegal\" immigration &gt;&gt;&gt; WHITE IDENTITY POLITICS.  Ask John Gibson and Bill O'Reilly.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_10:54:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3ecde559248958521e4cb25a77f2ee65", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968013": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "See Sagereaders excellent post on Jimmy Crow's Media.<br></br><br>http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_10:56:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3ecde559248958521e4cb25a77f2ee65", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968014": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Nquest,<br>Three questions:</br><br></br><br>1. Do you think that the result of the DNC's meeting this weekend was rooted in sexism?</br><br></br><br>2. If Clinton is given the nomination, do you think it would be a racist statement?</br><br></br><br>3. Do you deny that the democrats have played to the black populace by labeling Republicans as racist?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_11:01:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968015": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<a href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/02/nyregion/02gay.html?_r=2&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin\" rel=\"nofollow\">Some of Harlem's Reaction to Gov. Paterson's Gay Marriage Decision</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_11:03:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968016": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Not nquest, but I'll take a stab at it:<br>1. Do you think that the result of the DNC's meeting this weekend was rooted in sexism?*****</br><br></br><br>HELL NO</br><br></br><br>If the shoe was on the OTHER FOOT (i.e. Hillpatine was winning the way that Obama is now)</br><br></br><br>The only thing we would have heard was</br><br></br><br>\" You gotta follow the rules.\"</br><br></br><br>You know it. I know it. </br><br></br><br>This MI/FL BS would have been NON-EXISTENT. </br><br></br><br>Sorry d, I just don't believe it any other way. </br><br></br><br>2. If Clinton is given the nomination, do you think it would be a racist statement?****</br><br></br><br>HELL YES</br><br></br><br>Barack Obama follows THE RULES and wins the majority of the metric the DNC says will be used to determine a nominee - PLEDGED DELEGATES, and they STEAL IT AND GIVE IT TO HER? </br><br></br><br>Oh HELL YEAH, that's racism. </br><br></br><br></br><br></br><br>3. Do you deny that the democrats have played to the black populace by labeling Republicans as racist?**</br><br></br><br>Actually d, the GOP's done that all for themselves, with a little thing called ' The Southern Strategy'.</br><br></br><br>THAT'S WHY when Camp Hillpatine began to use it on Obama, so many Black folk knew it instinctively, long before the MSM would acknowledge it.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_11:08:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968017": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Nquest,<br> </br><br>I know...I know, that it is impossible for an <i>'African-American'</i> or <i>'African-Americans'</i> to be racist/s. Just ask Cone or Wright, huh.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_11:11:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3da39b121dc85e9bd8d9f861782bc8b9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968018": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Rikyrah,<br></br><br>The photo of the babies is too cute! Talk about precious!</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_11:13:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3b31356ea345f986babefd4710e13291", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968019": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "We often talk aobut the people whom we want to see the moment (GOD WILLING) Barack is to become the next POTUS.  After careful deliberation, ive constructed my top 10 list and will modify it, with the thoughts and views of many like us in the blogosphere. <br></br><br>10. <b>CNN'S Lou Dobbs</b> </br><br>Not one positive Barack story on his show yet. Called Richardson endorsement, Barack pandering to hispanic commnity.  </br><br></br><br>9. <b>Rush Limbaugh.</b></br><br>The top RADIO Right Wing Nut who has said \"I bet Bill and Hillary regret that Affirmative Action reform now.\"</br><br></br><br>8. <b>Ann Coulter.</b> </br><br>Flat out Bitch..Proffeisional Democrat Hit Job atist. </br><br></br><br>7. <b>Hillary Clinton.</b> </br><br>Im ready, McCains Ready, he gave a speech, and He cannot win Bill, he cannot win......</br><br></br><br>6. <b>CBC.</b> </br><br>They cut both ways. First when he does get it, I wanna see them shuffle around looking for excuses as to why they didnt support him. If he doesnt, then I wanna see there face, b/c they know the struggles facing our country, and to have someone represent not only them,  but people of this country en masse and not be white is tough.(considering every president this coun try has ever known has been white..)</br><br></br><br>5. <b>Geraldine Ferraro</b> </br><br>If he were white, he woulndt be this far. </br><br></br><br>4. <b>W.</b> </br><br>Thanks to him, this is all possible. Being  the worst POTUS ever, he pretty much made the Congress , the Senate, and his chair all turn blue, and in some cases, by margins that can potentially withstand a veto. He's even made the pick for VP in issue b/c of the actions of is corporate led, lobbyst tied vp in the past 8 yrs.</br><br></br><br>3. <b>Lanny Davis.</b> </br><br>I suspect he might vote for McCain. He now lives on Fox, unlike most Dem. surrogates bashes Barack repeatedly, and has chosen to raise the question in the Jewish community if Barack can be trusted. His math is flawed, and he supports a convention fight.</br><br></br><br>2. <b>Sean Hannity.</b></br><br>If there were no Sean Hannity, you might not have ever heard of Rev.Wright. To this very day, Hannity is doing his best to paint Barack as an Afro-Centrist who's to far \"LEFT\" and will put this country in harms way. I was raised not to hate people, but im about as close to hate that a person can have when it comes to Hannity.</br><br></br><br>1. <b>FOX NEWS.</b></br><br>The nomination of him, to me will signify the end of them. They pray on Democrats and push Right Wing Talking points 24/6 365. They hire Blue-dog/moderate dems whom they claim represent \"balance\" yet they fold to the right each and every time. I hope that if Baracks to win, he doesnt grant them 1 interview.  I hate this channel, I hate there, shows, and I hate the views and opinions expressed on that channel. </br><br></br><br></br><br>Those receiving Honorable mention and who can potentially enter the list. Howard Wolfson, Bill Clinton, Pat Buchanon, Wolf Blitzer, Laura Ingraham, Glenn Beck, Liz Trotta, and Ted Nugent</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_11:20:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "2042081350805262dea9b76f7cd72640", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968020": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "d,<br></br><br>The anti-war crowd is going to stick with Obama, but remember Kos proclaiming not so long ago that the activist wing 'owns the party.' My guess is that they will keep the pressure on Obama to keep his promise to pull out immediately. </br><br></br><br>He will try to backpedal out of his defeatist stance like he is trying (without success) to backpedal out of his 'no preconditions' position on Iran.</br><br></br><br>This pressure from the far-left will allow McCain to keep and hold the center on Iraq and national security. He will accuse Obama of being excessively pessimistic, inflexible, unmoved by new facts, and unwilling to admit error. He will also point out Obama's foreign policy inexperience by emphasizing Obama's misunderstanding of history with regards to negotiating with Iran.</br><br></br><br>McCain staked out the center long ago, and as long as progress continues in Iraq, Obama will find it hard to claim any of it for his own.</br><br></br><br>smoothie,</br><br></br><br>Don't count your chickens before they're hatched...you'll end up with egg on your face.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_11:24:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968021": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "A really interesting theory about the alleged Michelle Obama tape, which could explain a lot, from the  blog Booman Tribune. Michelle, offering a speech critical of President Bush, offers a refrain of \"why'd he\" \u2014 the words \"why did he\" mushed together \u2014 that sounds like \"whitey\" on the tape.<br></br><br>Apparently, if the tape ever comes to light, her words will sound something like:</br><br></br><br>    Whitey cut folks off Medicaid?</br><br>    Whitey let New Orleans drown?</br><br>    Whitey do nothing about Jena?</br><br>    Whitey put us in Iraq for no reason?</br><br></br><br>...when the intended message is,</br><br></br><br>    Why'd he cut folks off Medicaid?</br><br>    Why'd he let New Orleans drown?</br><br>    Why'd he do nothing about Jena?</br><br>    Why'd he put us in Iraq for no reason?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_11:27:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968022": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "D, Nquest, and Rikyrah,<br></br><br>I say again, I honestly believe that if Barack were in Hillary's position, we wouldnt have even got to the RBC. There's no doubt in my mind that he wouldve stopped his campaign post IN/NC. </br><br></br><br>I dont think he's the kind of person that would put his destiny in front of whats best for the party.  </br><br></br><br>I do however stand by Rikyrah's comments had this been the other way. But to add to it further, it would signify the end of blacks and the democratic party.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_11:32:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "2042081350805262dea9b76f7cd72640", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968023": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Smoothie,<br>I take issue with your list....it's not fair and balanced.</br><br></br><br>We know that liberals pray for the downfall of Hannity, FOX News, Limbaugh, Coulter, etc daily. </br><br></br><br>You'd be better off listing them under \"right wing media\" and calling it a day.</br><br></br><br>S,</br><br>If Obama pulls out when it's clear we're winning, he's not re-elected. One, that move would piss off a majority of the military/veteran establishment. Two, something would happen during his administration in Iraq/the Middle East that would cause him to, at the very least, throw cruise missiles there...which then leads to the \"well, if we hadn't left, we wouldn't be doing this\" argument.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_11:34:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968024": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@ smoothie:<br><i>6. CBC.</i></br><br>They cut both ways. First when he does get it, I wanna see them shuffle around looking for excuses as to why they didnt support him.</br><br></br><br>Oh, but they already have. Donald Payne was on The Joe Madison Show this morning saying that he decided to support Hillary before he knew Obama was considering a run for the presidency. When he saw that Obama was a strong candidate, he decided to stay neutral.</br><br></br><br>I call bs. </br><br></br><br>1. Everybody knew Obama was going to run since his speech at the DNC in '04. </br><br></br><br>2. It's not only about CBC supporting Hillary but it's also about them remaining SILENT when Hillary and Bill started race baiting. Payne thinks that his being neutral will give him a pass, but it doesn't. You weren't neutral, Mr. Payne. You were a COWARD.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_11:37:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "6a15e2f4a8734cebd4efee6381b0eb4f", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968025": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "d,<br></br><br>Are you assuming Obama will win with his current strategy, or that he will win if the anti-war left will allow him to move to the center?</br><br></br><br>If he wins, he will have to say in Iraq. Like it our not, our country's national security and stability is inextricably tied to the region and has been since the end of WWII.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_11:42:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "7c4455626754e1b9bc3be232b1024136", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968026": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Is Hillary taking this to the convention?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_11:44:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968027": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i>I say again, I honestly believe that if Barack were in Hillary's position, we wouldnt have even got to the RBC. There's no doubt in my mind that he wouldve stopped his campaign post IN/NC. <br></br></i><br></br><br>If this were flipped, and Obama had lost ELEVEN IN A ROW...</br><br></br><br>It wouldn't have even gotten to IN/NC. </br><br></br><br>Chuck Todd said the night of the WISCONSIN PRIMARY that, mathematically, THIS WAS OVER. </br><br></br><br>He said it, that night, with regards to PLEDGED DELEGATES.</br><br></br><br>Since then, this has been the MSM in collusion with the FRAUD of Camp Hillpatine. </br><br></br><br>The math has been the math since WISCONSIN. </br><br></br><br>And, if the situations were reversed, ALLLLL we would have heard post Wisconsin, was about THE MATH.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_11:47:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968028": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Anon 8:42,<br>His current strategy loses. Plain and simple.</br><br></br><br>Any modification to his current strategy <b>might</b> lose as well. You can only do so much \"clarification\" when you position from day one has been that we should've left Iraq.</br><br></br><br></br><br>On the tape...talk about the semantics argument from hell: if Michelle comes off as asking questions \"why'd he\" is a valid assumption to what she's saying. If they come off as statements, however.....</br><br></br><br>Rikyrah/Smoothie,</br><br>Saw your answers....waiting for Nquest's before I respond.....</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_11:48:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968029": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "While my own jury is still out on Mr. Ford. I do look at his run for Congress as an interesting case study in the \"beating the street\" that Obama will need to do going forward to win this thing. <br></br><br><a hfref=\"http://www.newsweek.com/id/138511\" rel=\"nofollow\">Here is an op-ed in Newsweek discussing strategy for taking the states in the south.&gt;</a></br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_11:48:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "67278f84b7b6cbb795c7c96e7a08dabe", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968030": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "If you, the people who frequently comment on this board and those who don't could start a new political party from the ground up what would be your top issue or goal?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_11:49:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3b9a39f6bc38c0fc6082bf0373618c04", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968031": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Smoothie,<br></br><br>Don't forget Joe Scarborough!</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_11:58:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3b31356ea345f986babefd4710e13291", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968032": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Rikyrah, <br></br><br>I purposly left off the Wis. issue. Even though the math clearly proved it was over, just in the slight chance that she mounted her 10 st. comeback I figured the arguement to stay in wouldve continued.</br><br></br><br>Sepia</br><br>Sadly none of the CBC face heavy competition in there chairs thus they will continue to mis-represent us. </br><br></br><br>D. </br><br>Much like the Right say's left wing media when slamming any and all who dont agree with them. They even take it a step further and say the entire media is LEFT..Even though FOX and certain elements of CNN lean clearly right. Plus my list has people on the left on it...I doubt if you run a list for McCains you would put that much from the right..(ron paul, barr do not count)</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_12:05:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "2042081350805262dea9b76f7cd72640", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968033": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Smoothie,<br>It's not just Fox News that says there's a liberal media bias: Rasmussen had a poll on it last week (I'll link as soon as I can find it in my email....).</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_12:11:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968034": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "is bob barr <a href=\"http://rawdawgb.blogspot.com/2008/05/quicksand-in-passing.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">passing</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_12:16:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "9e52b9ab5d80ed9cb814245b329a6f49", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968035": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Recent revelations that the media worked with the Bush Administration to promote this war shows that the liberal media label is false.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_12:17:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "6a15e2f4a8734cebd4efee6381b0eb4f", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968036": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I'm with krk, the photo is totally creeping me out and I'm the mom that used to pull \"ripe, ready to eat\" stickers off melons in the grocery store & stick 'em on my four babies just to watch people's reactions", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_12:27:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "b0f64bf119db59d32eedd9e893635450", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968037": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Check out our take on the DNC meeting and latest developments re: Obama and Hillary:<br></br><br><a href=\"http://ohellnawl.wordpress.com/2008/06/02/hillary-supporters-o-hellllll-nawl/\" rel=\"nofollow\">O HELL NAWL Hillary Supporters!</a></br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_13:11:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "51865b8784664e4c59c24eda160297ef", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968038": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Rock and Roll Hall of Famer Bo Diddley has died, here in FL...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_13:11:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3da39b121dc85e9bd8d9f861782bc8b9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968039": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Poor, poor Karmi,<br></br><br>I know, I know... YOU CAN'T DEFEND YOUR POSITION!!  You can't show how Wright's or Cone's quoted statements amount to KKK-like racism. And even more, you can't deny the IDENTITY POLITICS the fingerpointers pointing at women and African-Americans engage in in the process of bemoaning their identity politics.</br><br></br><br>I mean, these are the people who brought you THE ANGRY WHITE MALE.  WTF is that but IDENTITY POLITICS?</br><br></br><br>WTF is your non-response but a TAP OUT!!  Silly Rabbit.  Save those dummie tricks for kids.</br><br></br><br>The problem is you DON'T KNOW, DON'T KNOW.  And you didn't know what the hell you were getting into, dumbazz.</br><br></br><br>Neither Wright nor Cone espoused the racism/prejudice you claimed they did.  That's why you're all choked up.  Nothin' but SHORT POSTS now AND ignorant, and dare I say PREJUDICED, assumptions from you now.</br><br></br><br>I know, I know.... I know I didn't say \"it's impossible for African-Americans to be racist.\"</br><br></br><br></br><br>ENOUGH SAID!!</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_13:31:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3ecde559248958521e4cb25a77f2ee65", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968040": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "True liberal media bias can be found, not among the talking heads, commentors, pundits and editorial pages, who make no attempt to hide their bias, but buried deep in articles and stories that are supposed to be pure 'news'.<br></br><br>The mischaracterization, exaggeration or omission of facts in order to advance a narrative based on the political leanings of writers and producers in order to support the ideology or agenda of a particular political party undermines the credibility of news organizations.</br><br></br><br>For example, let's take the economy:</br><br></br><br>FACT: Real gross domestic product -- the output of goods and services produced by labor and property</br><br>located in the United States -- increased at an annual rate of 0.9 percent in the first quarter of 2008,</br><br>according to preliminary estimates released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis.  In the fourth quarter,</br><br>real GDP increased 0.6 percent.</br><br></br><br>FACT: This data shows an INCREASE in the GDP.</br><br></br><br>FACT: In macroeconomics, a recession is generally associated with a decline in a country's real gross domestic product (GDP), or negative real economic growth, for two or more successive quarters of a year.</br><br></br><br>So, a clear look at the numbers, coupled with the definition of recession, would show that the US economy is NOT in a recession. The FACT is, the economy GREW.</br><br></br><br>Yet, the media is responsible for reinforcing the notion that the US economy is 'slipping into a recession' or 'may slip into a recession,' or already IS in a recession.</br><br></br><br>Why is a negative perception of the economy advanced by the media?</br><br></br><br>Why does the media attempt to lead viewers, readers and listeners to draw an incorrect conclusion?</br><br></br><br>Politically, who benefits from news of economic growth?</br><br></br><br>There are countless 'news' stories that choose to interject analysis and lead readers, listeners and viewers to conclusions that benefit a particular political ideology, party or agenda.</br><br></br><br>Why not just allow news consumers to absorb and process the facts and draw their own conclusions?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_13:41:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968041": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Nquest,<br>Come back!! Still waiting for answers!!</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_13:44:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968042": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "D, unless you want to talk about IDENTITY POLITICS and who practices it (i.e. the issue I took up with Karmi), then you can STFU talking to me.<br></br><br>I don't do that \"let me frame this argument for you\" stuff your lame, telegraphin', skill-less azz can't help but do.  </br><br></br><br>Put more diplomatically... I don't believe I've ever talked Democrats and Republicans with you and I know I've spoken against your need to cast people in your ignorant right vs. left dichotomy just so you can have something to speak against.</br><br></br><br>Let me tell you something you should have figured out long ago.  My motto is:</br><br></br><br>F-ck A Democrat and MuthaF-ck A Gottdamn Republican.</br><br></br><br>So what the hell do you think a question about labeling Republicans as racists means to me when my pov on Reps and Dems is that of Malcolm X's noted \"wolf vs. fox\" idea.</br><br></br><br>Know who the hell you're speaking to and know that you have no conversation with me when you're stuck on that stupid sh*t.  </br><br></br><br>Like a trip to Japan, your country azz better learn language.  We don't speak dillbilly here, at least I don't.</br><br></br><br></br><br></br><br>Sorry, Rikyrah.   I'll be nice from now on.  :)</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_13:45:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3ecde559248958521e4cb25a77f2ee65", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968043": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i>Politically, who benefits from news of economic growth?</i><br></br><br>Black folks who are applying for SBA loans and corporate grants.</br><br></br><br>So holla at a brotha when the economic news turns good ... we needs to catch that hook up.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_13:47:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "25c2ebf4464c5d95fa227ddd4a0d2fe5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968044": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Nquest,<br>Actually, that time, I just wanted to know what you thought.</br><br></br><br>For all your talk about \"lame and skill-less,\" I have yet to see you answer a question in something resembling a thought-out matter.</br><br></br><br>But if that's your MO, hey, what can I say? :)</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_13:57:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968045": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Where is Amy Holmes? <br></br><br>I've noticed she has been missing from cable news networks for a couple of months. Has she been fired?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_14:08:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "6a15e2f4a8734cebd4efee6381b0eb4f", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968046": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "So to Rikyrah/Smoothie....<br></br><br>I didn't see anything sexist about what the DNC came up with. Really, I'm not sure how you could jump to that particular conclusion.</br><br></br><br>Giving the nomination to Clinton would be strategically stupid. Would it be racist? Were she viable, maybe. Since she's not-by anyone's account, at this point-I'm not sure. Of course, then you could argue that because she's <i>not</i> viable, it can't be anything BUT racism.</br><br></br><br>Yeah, the use of the Southern Strategy hasn't really helped the GOP shed its historically racist image. I wonder, though (which would've been question #4), how much the DNC's throwing the racism flag around is an attempt to cover up their own racial issues, which are being brought to the spotlight by Clinton/Obama.</br><br></br><br>For all the talk about the GOP being inherently \"racist,\" at least their position is (somewhat) clear: they'll take the black vote if they can; if not, they don't feel they need it.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_14:13:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968047": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "D, wasn't it you who felt compelled to tell me you were a conservative?<br></br><br>See, that's the dillbilly in you.</br><br></br><br></br><br>(1) Answer question with a Chris Matthews question:  </br><br>When and where has any of the claims of sexism shown in the polls and, more importantly, the voting?  The DNC meeting was about how to recognize votes via compromise to be fair to both candidates. </br><br></br><br>Just like your left-right bs.  Such a DUMB AZZ QUESTION does not compute with me. WTF are you talking about?  Sexism?  WHERE?  HOW?  </br><br></br><br>Say what you think or STFU!</br><br></br><br></br><br>(2) See Rikyrah's substance based response and learn how to speak the language.  Dillbilly is not accepted.  With all of the statements made by party officials about the tone of the campaign and wanting to wrap this primary season up as soon as possible ALL during times when Obama was clearly in the lead... Well, your question just doesn't even make sense; for one, because I don't play hypothetical games with someone I was NOT having a conversation with.</br><br></br><br>Ask me a question about something I say.  Not about some script you come to this blog with.  I don't speak dillbilly.</br><br></br><br></br><br>(3) See above (both my statement on your left-right bs AND \"no scripts allowed\" part printed directly above).  </br><br></br><br>Hmmm...  Let's see... When have I made a statement on any topic about what Democrats or any other group/org. \"have played to the Black populace\" for or on how either Democrats or Republicans are labeled?</br><br></br><br>Repeated for you digestion:</br><br></br><br><b>Ask me a question about something I say.  Not about some script you come to this blog with. </b></br><br></br><br>This is your official notice that your question asking privileges with me are revoked due to a known history of your script wielding and non-reciprocation.</br><br></br><br>I believe it was you who just up and told me you were a conservative (like I gave a damn).  During that time, I know I asked you several questions ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID.  I'm selfish like that.  I expect you to be like me and keep your mf statements to WHAT I SAY.</br><br></br><br>I am not a stand in for some generic Democrat LABEL you want to attach or any of your ignorant \"well, someone I'd group with you said it, so let me ask you about them\" type of bs.  I expect people who engage me to have more skill and less dill.</br><br></br><br>FYI</br><br></br><br></br><br>________________</br><br></br><br>PS:  </br><br></br><br>A successful \"call-out\" occurs when someone points out an actual hypocrisy, inconsistency, contradiction, etc. in a person's position, ask the person to address and that person doesn't because they don't want to own up to their contradictions, etc.</br><br></br><br>Don't try to grandstand with me, dillbilly, when none of those elements are there for you to be \"waiting\" on my answers.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_14:16:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3ecde559248958521e4cb25a77f2ee65", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968048": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<b>Actually, that time, I just wanted to know what you thought</b><br></br><br>Which is to say, all other times your MO is such that you deserve every last STFU you get.</br><br></br><br>Personally, I don't give a damn if you \"want to know what I think.\"  Part of that is because of your MO.  The other part is I don't speak Dillbilly or practice Dillbilly culture.</br><br></br><br>These strange ways of soliciting people's opinions you have with your bs script in hand is foreign to me and, actually, a sign of poor your backward was.</br><br></br><br>Perhaps a \"Nquest, I was wondering what you thought about X and here is why\" would help.  That's just the way I get down.  You, you're stuck on that alien stupid sh*t.  Like I give a f-ck about your Republican vs. Democrat construct.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_14:24:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3ecde559248958521e4cb25a77f2ee65", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968049": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I was also wondering if Ron Paul did or didnt endorse Barr? How does Paul feel about Wayne Root.? Did Paul endorse or oppose Root? IS Paul thinking about a vp spot with Barr? Ive been looking everywhere for this info. Can find it. They have a couple of videos at <a href=\"http://www.BarrRoot.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">www.BarrRoot.com</a> but nothing about Paul. The Barr/Root ticket is going to fail without paul. I read an article about Ron Paul maybe being a vp or vice ( veep ) on the libertarian ticket? Would this mean the LP will drop Root and run Bar and Ron Paul? Its a pretty good article but I dont know how true it is. Here is the Link <a href=\"http://www.BarrRoot08.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">www.BarrRoot08.com</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_14:30:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "96a4c8019d9f314963c88e6700fb549e", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968050": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Nquest,<br>Dude, it's not even that serious.</br><br></br><br>More than likely, this is the point in the conversation where you attempt to claim that you've shut me down. That train's never late.</br><br></br><br>So, to assuage your probably somewhat fractured ego, you can have this one. I hope this small victory makes up for some incident of neglect somewhere. Besides, I like to actually try to learn something when I read here.</br><br></br><br>Let's agree to not agree-on anything-and just go from here.</br><br></br><br>Sorry if this offends anyone....</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_14:33:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968051": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Question for D, in the spirit of his question to me:<br><b></b></br><br>What do you have to say about the Willie Horton and Welfare Queen racists tactics employed by Republicans/conservatives?</br><br></br><br></br><br>You mentioned the DNC meeting:</br><br><b></b></br><br>Do you think anything like that would ever happen in the Republican party?  (The other historically racist White political party).</br><br></br><br></br><br>_____________________________</br><br></br><br><b>Also, what do you think about the Republicans lack of respect for African-American voters when the best they can do to try to attract African-Americans voters back to the party they once belonged to in large numbers with WEDGE ISSUE politics that has no regard for the full slate of issues important to African-Americans and the priority at which the Black political consensus places those issues?</b></br><br></br><br></br><br>I mean, I've heard current Black Republicans from Lynn Swann to Wayne Perryman express their displeasure with the curious lack of support they get from their White Republican party brethren when they, of all people, should be the ones supported in their efforts to increase the number of Black Republicans.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_14:37:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3ecde559248958521e4cb25a77f2ee65", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968052": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<a href=\"http://roadkillpolitics.blogspot.com/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://roadkillpolitics.blogspot.com/</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_14:41:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "9be18ad332a07779e2d58e72abc3fe28", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968053": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<a href=\"http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/02/clinton-summons-top-donor_n_104715.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Clinton Summons Top Donors, Supporters For Tuesday Speech</a><br></br><br><i> Obama and Clinton spoke Sunday night and agreed that their staffs should begin negotiations over post-primary activities. In addition to help raising money to pay off some $20 million-plus in debts, <b>Clinton is known to want Obama to help out black officials who endorsed her and are now taking constituent heat, including, in some cases, primary challenges from pro-Obama politicians.</b> </i></br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_14:43:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968054": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<a href=\"http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Vote2008/story?id=4978604&amp;page=1\" rel=\"nofollow\">Obama Religious Ties Are 'Manna From Heaven' for GOP</a><br></br><br><i>Racial Uproar Reignited Could Threaten Obama's Chances in November</i></br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_14:49:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3da39b121dc85e9bd8d9f861782bc8b9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968055": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "D, <br></br><br>You're speaking Dillbilly again.  It's not that hard:</br><br></br><br><i>\"Nquest, I was wondering what you thought about X and here is why\"</i></br><br></br><br>That would help me understand and \"learn\" where you are coming from.  But don't let the conviction door knob hit you.  Your type litters the internet.  You want to frame the debate and lots of people are stuck on left-right stupid just like you and what you do is constantly what they do.</br><br></br><br>You act like this is Crossfire of something where person X is the representative for the Democrats and has to answer for what Democrats do and you're dillbilly Y , the right-leaning moderator dishing out the questions.</br><br></br><br></br><br>  And with the way you and S carry on... Ya'll put fractured \"us against the world\" egos on the map.</br><br></br><br></br><br>((((More than likely, this is the point in the conversation)))</br><br></br><br>Silly Dillbilly.  That was the whole point.  I was not engaged in a conversation with you and your questions didn't engage the conversation I was having.</br><br></br><br>Simply put, there was no conversation and, speaking dillybilly, you have no conversation for me.</br><br></br><br>This is not that hard:</br><br></br><br><b>Ask me a question about something I say. Not about some script you come to this blog with. </b></br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_14:50:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3ecde559248958521e4cb25a77f2ee65", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968056": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Nquest,<br>I suppose I should copy and paste your responses to me to answer your question.</br><br></br><br>(Before you flip, chil. You deserved that.)</br><br></br><br>Question 1: I acknowledge those things happened. I don't make an attempt to apologize for them or explain them away. Personally, I disagree with those tactics.</br><br></br><br>Question 2: Hell, no. Under no circumstances. If a Republican tried that stunt, they'd be laughed out of the party.</br><br></br><br>Question 3: I've said before that I don't think the Republican Party doesn't respects the African American electorate. I think that the conservative message-you can have the world, <b>IF</b> you're willing to work for it-flies in the face of some African Americans because it forces them to look at the world outside of their own existence.</br><br></br><br>Thoughts, comments, or-in your case-cuss words?</br><br></br><br>At least I'm getting a laugh from all this. :)</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_14:53:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968057": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "D sez:<br><i>I've said before that I don't think the Republican Party doesn't respects the African American electorate. I think that the conservative message-you can have the world, IF you're willing to work for it-flies in the face of some African Americans because it forces them to look at the world outside of their own existence.</i></br><br></br><br>I know that Republicans prefer to condescendingly offer the \"if you work hard ...\" line based upon the default presumption that Black people don't work hard, but D ...</br><br></br><br>I'm surprised you trotted that out here.  At JJP.  With educated and well-read Black (and White and Brown) people.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_15:03:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "25c2ebf4464c5d95fa227ddd4a0d2fe5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968058": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "nquest, rikyrah, d, et al,<br></br><br>Sexism does not need to actually exist in this primary, in order for women to feel that Hillary has been treated unfairly.</br><br></br><br>An entire generation of women have been raised on the notion that this country is sexist, and that this sexism is endemic. Women have been oppressed, disadvantaged and excluded from main-stream politics, corporate boardrooms, etc. PRIMARILY because of sexism. They have spent their lives viewing the world through this prism. </br><br></br><br>Feminism as a social movement, is different from left-wing or fundamentalist Christian activism, in that politics and personal being  are virtually inseparable. So, through this self-designated identity, an attack on Hillary is seen as an attack on all women. </br><br></br><br>This is key to understanding the difference between identity politics on the left and right. </br><br></br><br>On the right,one may CHOOSE, as an INDIVIDUAL, to join the NRA or the Praise the Lord Club. </br><br></br><br>Not so on the left. One is, simply by the circumstances of one's birth, a member of a marginalized, group. By and large identity politics has depended on a rhetoric of blame, the illocutionary effects of which are designed to chastise the target (for being unjust, prejudiced, inhumane, selfish, oppressive, and/or violent). </br><br></br><br>So viewing the primary through the Democrat feminist prism we can acknowledge that in exchange for their support, women were PROMISED equality and the party is OBLIGATED to make good on its promise. But here comes the young turk, Obama, first and foremost, A MAN, with obvious charm and style, but, in their view, no experience, leap frogging over the woman who has been paying her dues, taking s***, but working hard because she has been PROMISED BY THE PARTY that Democrats will elect a WOMAN.</br><br></br><br>But now this promise is competing and conflicting with another promise, the implied promise that the democrats will elect a BLACK president.</br><br></br><br>Such is the trap of identity politics and the Democrat party has put itself in the position of promising the same job to two equally deserving candidates.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_15:08:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968059": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Ronnie,<br>I've said that before. </br><br></br><br>And if you were to ask, I'd say that the statement doesn't apply to JJP's readers, based on my conversations here. With a few changes to the details of the conservative message, I'd bet a lot more of the readers here would consider themselves conservative.</br><br></br><br>That said, there is still a segment of the population that it does apply to.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_15:11:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968060": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "And I'm laughing at how utterly inane your question (#3) was.<br></br><br>But maybe you can explain why you asked the question and how it's supposed to make sense when you acknowledge how the Republican party uses racist tactics and, beyond that, have little regard/appreciation for the world the African-American electorate lives in.</br><br></br><br>Simply, what was the point of your original question (#3)?  How exactly would the Black populace by \"played\" by a \"label\" that fits just what you acknowledged as the facts about the Republican party?</br><br></br><br>You have got to know that I don't do self-loathing.  So I'm trying to figure out your point and laughing won't help you make it.  As it stands now, your question was baseless on 2 counts.</br><br></br><br>(1)  It had no basis or reason for being asked based on something I said about the racism of the Republican party or Blacks being played by the Democrat party.  No.  There was no such conversation going on at the time.</br><br></br><br>(2) Your idea that the Black populace being played assumed that the label didn't fit or you have some explaining to do.  What was your point?  To try to use my answer to #2 as something that was supposed to be a revelation to me in #3?</br><br></br><br>Seriously... you have got to have more skills than that.  Something other than your ignorant left-right assumptions.</br><br></br><br></br><br>And what happened to the sexism conversation?  And what was the </br><br>\"Come back!! Still waiting for answers!!\" stuff all about?</br><br></br><br>What's that?  Dillbilly-speak for \"I just wanted to know what you thought.\"</br><br></br><br>Oh and my motto, it counts for card carrying liberals and conservatives too.</br><br></br><br>Get a clue.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_15:20:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3ecde559248958521e4cb25a77f2ee65", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968061": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "ronnie b,<br></br><br>Given my take on the identity politics that exists within the Democrat party, I do not think that d is off base.</br><br></br><br>The Republican party is speaking to indivduals, and in exchange for their support, is offering individuals, not a group, opportunity and success. </br><br></br><br>You assert that d's comments about working hard implies that ALL black people do not work hard.  You thereby are unable to separate yourself from the self-designated group. Some blacks work hard, others do not, yet rather than separate the group in that way, you choose to accuse d of making a mass generalization.</br><br></br><br>Until black people CHOOSE party affiliation based on their INDIVIDUAL reasons and impulses, they will always feel more 'at home' in the Democrat party.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_15:23:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968062": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Clinton is known to want Obama to help out black officials who endorsed her and are now taking constituent heat, including, in some cases, primary challenges from pro-Obama politicians. <br>----------------</br><br></br><br>Hell to the naw.  Obama should not endorse anyone and let the chips fall where they may.  You had black Clinton surrogates sitting on CNN, etc. aiding and abetting the race baiting, in some cases actively participating in it (Tubbs Jones), but Clinton wants Obama to \"save\" them?  So they can sabotage him from the halls of Congress?  No, if the will of the people is that Tubbs Jones and her ilk have to be swept away, so be it.  I'm not mad that they supported Clinton; that's their right.  I'm mad they sat back while she and her campaign all but said the N-word and they just laughed and cackled and defended that crap like they were the 2008 version of ManTan and Sleep N Eat.  Naw, they gotta go.  Good riddance.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_15:26:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "1cb6140180747707b601ebc52c1fcb5a", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968063": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<b>With a few changes to the details of the conservative message, I'd bet a lot more of the readers here would consider themselves conservative.</b><br></br><br>Black people already consider themselves conservatives based on their own cultural messages and values.  Everywhere I go on the net, Black people make the distinction between being socially conservative vs. party/politically conservative.  So wth are you talking about?</br><br></br><br>You feeling lonely?  :)</br><br></br><br></br><br>And why are you concerned about the conservative message?  Why not get Afrocentric with it and speak Black people's \"special human truth\" (that has due regard for all the Black particulars) instead of hoping someone else will change their message for you or whatever your \"change details\" comment entailed?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_15:29:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3ecde559248958521e4cb25a77f2ee65", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968064": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "This just in from the Huffington Post <br> </br><br></br><br>Thomas B. Edsall</br><br>The Huffington Post</br><br>Clinton Summons Top Donors, Supporters For Tuesday Speech</br><br>stumble digg reddit del.ico.us news trust buzz up June 2, 2008 02:24 PM </br><br>Hillary Clinton has summoned top donors and backers to attend her New York speech tomorrow night in an unusual move that is being widely interpreted to mean she plans to suspend her campaign and endorse Barack Obama.</br><br></br><br>Obama and Clinton spoke Sunday night and agreed that their staffs should begin negotiations over post-primary activities, according to reliable sources. In addition to seeking Obama's help in raising money to pay off some $20 million-plus in debts, Clinton is known to want Obama to assist black officials who endorsed her and who are now taking constituent heat, including, in some cases, primary challenges from pro-Obama politicians.</br><br></br><br>\"This has never happened before,\" one donor said, referring to the personalized request by email to attend the event in New York Tuesday night.</br><br></br><br>Obama is expected to claim enough delegates to put him over the top that night at a separate event in Minneapolis.</br><br></br><br>Earlier in the day it was reported that Clinton staffers were being urged by the campaign's finance department \"to turn in their outstanding expense receipts by the end of the week,\" another sign that the run at the White House was nearing an end. In addition, Politico wrote that members of Clinton's advance staff had received calls and emails Sunday night, summoning them to New York City and telling them their roles on the campaign are ending.</br><br>-----------------------------</br><br>I say help with her debts no Vice President and as far as her African American super delegates Stephanie Tubbs Jones HAS GOT TO GO.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_15:29:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8929a93ccff877492df9b177a3888cf", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968065": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Not sure if anyone's mentioned this, but. . . <br></br><br>For what it's worth, HuffPo says all signs point to this thing ending tomorrow. . . </br><br></br><br><a href=\"http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/02/clinton-summons-top-donor_n_104715.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Clinton Expected to Suspend Campaign and Endorse Obama</a></br><br></br><br>Again, I'll believe it when I see it.  This is ONLY speculation.</br><br></br><br>But the report says all signs suggest she's prepared to make a big speech tomorrow night in her home state of NY.</br><br></br><br>Sources say she's negotiating post-primary activities with the Obama campaign.  She has no plans past Wednesday, and she's in continued discussions with Obama to help repay some of her debt.</br><br></br><br>Also ***and isn't this an interesting nugget*** she apparently wants Obama's help to give her black supporters (think Stephanie Tubbs-Jones-types) cover when they go back for re-election.</br><br></br><br>Again, take it for what it's worth.  We've seen these stories before only to have her do a 180 at the last minute.</br><br></br><br>I'll keep my fingers crossed.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_15:30:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "d1a8e45844ef20a90904a65e60371f42", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968066": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@djchefron,<br></br><br>LOL. . . Dang!  You beat me to it.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_15:32:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "d1a8e45844ef20a90904a65e60371f42", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968067": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Nquest,<br>So with that said-that black people already consider themselves socially conservative-why do you think they align with the democratic party, if it flies in the face of what they believe?</br><br></br><br>I'm not concerned with \"the conservative message.\" Hell, most conservatives don't know what THE conservative message is anymore (that's a problem in itself, but a different discussion). </br><br></br><br>To me, conservatism has no \"special human truth\" for black people or anyone else. The message is simple: the government will provide for your basic rights, welfare, and security. What the individual-regardless or race or any other aspect-does with those provisions is up to them. What the government will NOT do is hold your hand/breast feed you (whichever anology better shows the point).</br><br></br><br>Glad we're civil again...thought I was gonna have to challenge you to a boxing match. :)</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_15:38:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968068": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I just had this mental picture of Obama supporters as Munchkins in the Land of Oz gearing up to sing, \"Ding Dong the Witch is Dead.\"<br></br><br>Obama, inside his 'magic bubble' will come to their aid and will be greeted with effusive adulation by the adoring throngs...</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_15:42:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "7c4455626754e1b9bc3be232b1024136", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968069": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<b>Until black people CHOOSE party affiliation based on their INDIVIDUAL reasons and impulses, they will always feel more 'at home' in the Democrat party.</b><br></br><br></br><br>The flip side of that, keeping D's \"change details\" idea in mind:</br><br></br><br>The Republican party will never attract a significant amount of Black voters until they drop that European based focus on INDIVIDUALISM.  That's part of that lack of respect for the culture and things African-Americans deem import.  </br><br></br><br>Hell, there are even polls that stipulate to it.  And it's not like Black people have a dying need to be Republican.  Black people want political efficacy and a chance to be able to influence the political process that has so much influence over their lives.</br><br></br><br>What you saw at the DNC rules committee was, with the number of Black members on the committee, was the chance to do that, no matter how the chips fell.</br><br></br><br>By your comments, S... I can safely guess that you're not a <a href=\"http://bookerrising.blogspot.com/2004/12/booker-rising-commentary.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bookerista</a>.  They seem to understand this back cultural concept.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_15:47:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3ecde559248958521e4cb25a77f2ee65", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968070": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\" s said... <br>A really interesting theory about the alleged Michelle Obama tape, which could explain a lot, from the blog Booman Tribune. Michelle, offering a speech critical of President Bush, offers a refrain of \"why'd he\" \u2014 the words \"why did he\" mushed together \u2014 that sounds like \"whitey\" on the tape.</br><br></br><br>Apparently, if the tape ever comes to light, her words will sound something like:</br><br></br><br>Whitey cut folks off Medicaid?</br><br>Whitey let New Orleans drown?</br><br>Whitey do nothing about Jena?</br><br>Whitey put us in Iraq for no reason?</br><br></br><br>...when the intended message is,</br><br></br><br>Why'd he cut folks off Medicaid?</br><br>Why'd he let New Orleans drown?</br><br>Why'd he do nothing about Jena?</br><br>Why'd he put us in Iraq for no reason?</br><br></br><br>Mon Jun 02, 08:27:00 AM 2008\"</br><br></br><br>You're missing the point...why in the hell would a Harvard educated attorney and professional and the wife of a US Senator and presidential candidate sit on a panel alongside one of the most controversial figures in the United States to discuss highly charged racial issues and speak in a manner beneath the dignity of herself and her own accomplishments and position but especially her husbands?!  It doesn't matter if she was ranting \"whitey\" or \"why'd he\", it would be an act of sabotage or mind-blowing stupidity!  </br><br></br><br>I've had friends/family suggest that she has been attempting to undermine his candidacy, perhaps subconsciously, with her numerous ill advised comments, but this would be inarguably deliberate and completely unforgivable. </br><br></br><br>While I join the chorus of Black voices who decry the undue scrutiny and double standards the media has subjected Senator Obama to with respect to his church, I would be lying if I said I wasn't more than a little pissed with the Obamas for not realizing what scrutiny the church and other associations would bring.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_15:53:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "c60cf267cb7a0392bdb4a893a5ee5c7c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968071": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Nquest,<br>What issues do you feel are important to the African American community that the GOP doesn't respect/pay attention to/etc?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_15:57:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968072": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "S,<br>Peharps the reason why so many intelligent African-Americans push for policies that benefit the whole group as opposed to just themselves is that reality of African-Americans both historically and currently is different from white America.  We can talk about individuality till we are blue in the face, but the fact remains that when Britney Spears or M&M; does something outlandish it is NOT a reflection on White America.  But when 50 cents does something outlandish it is apparently a reflection on black America.  I personally do not agree with that mind set, but just because I do not agree with it does not mean that is not the case.</br><br></br><br>Unfortunately, African-Americans are not percieved on their own individual merits, they are perceived by the words and actions of other African-Americans.  This is why Obama is not being judged by his words, both written and verbal, or by his actions.  Rather he is being judged by the words of Reverend Wright et al.</br><br></br><br>Junglecat</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_15:58:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "7c4455626754e1b9bc3be232b1024136", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968073": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "D, your question doesn't make sense.  I already indicated why by the very question I asked you.  Republicans employ WEDGE ISSUES that have \"no regard for the full slate of issues important to African-Americans and the priority at which the Black political consensus places those issues.\"<br></br><br>Like I just said, they even have polls stipulating to it and the INDIVIDUALISM bs ain't happening.  It's a \"cruel jest\", as MLK would say, to present INDIVIDUALISM as a policy response or \"solution\" for something the group, not just individuals, were/are subjected to.</br><br></br><br>Obviously you were trying to FRAME the issue your way once again when there was no mistaking what I was saying in terms of the GOP not respecting the full range of issues important to African-Americans.</br><br></br><br>And your question damn sure makes no sense when you have to talk about \"changing the details of the White conservative message.\"  What part of the distinction don't you understand?</br><br></br><br>I most definitely didn't say the Democratic party \"flies in the face of what they believe.\"  I insisted that there is a range of issues important to African-Americans who don't just believe in things socially conservative.  They also believe in social justice.</br><br></br><br>There is no contradiction there.  So why are you puzzled and what's makes it so hard for you to keep up?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_15:59:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3ecde559248958521e4cb25a77f2ee65", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968074": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "nquest,<br></br><br>Black people make the distinction between being socially conservative vs. party/politically conservative. </br><br>_____________________________________</br><br></br><br>If more black voter were to align themselves more as individuals, based on their 'social conservatism', thereby joining the Republican party, I think we would being to see the end of divisive partisan politics.</br><br></br><br>I am not proposing that we abandon the discourses of oppression, justice, equality, rights and so on but through our shared interests as individuals that we can reform education by promoting school choice, stimulate economic advancement and the accumulation of wealth through low taxes and limited government, save the environment by encouraging our free markets to meet our demand for more efficient and independent sources of energy, etc.</br><br></br><br>The biggest gap in our country is partisan and it is due in large part by the prominent role of identity politics in the governing process.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_15:59:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968075": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "If more black voter were to align themselves more as individuals, based on their 'social conservatism', thereby joining the Republican party, I think we would being to see the end of divisive partisan politics.<br></br><br>--------------------</br><br></br><br>In other words, it's black folks' fault there are partisan politics.  If only black people would come on over to the Republicans, partisan politics would cease to exist.</br><br></br><br>OK.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_16:04:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "7c4455626754e1b9bc3be232b1024136", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968076": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<b>Unfortunately, African-Americans are not percieved on their own individual merits...</b><br></br><br>That's some irony for your azz and some bs too.</br><br></br><br>What you just described is a no win situation.  The very people INDIVIDUALISM is preached to just can't be considered, as you say, on their own individual merits.</br><br></br><br>Do you even understand the words (from both statements) that are coming out of your mouth?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_16:07:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3ecde559248958521e4cb25a77f2ee65", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968077": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Nquest,<br>Here we go....again:</br><br></br><br>Let's talk about framing: did I say that you said \"flies in the face of what they believe?\" No, <b><i>I said that it flies in the face of what they believe</i></b>.</br><br></br><br>My question for you, then, was this: </br><br></br><br><b><i>If black people consider themselves-as you suggested-socially conservative-why would they then choose to associate with a political party that does not-as I suggested-hold any beliefs that would be considered socially conservative?</i></b></br><br></br><br>I'm starting to think I have to speak slowly for you.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_16:09:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968078": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "The GOP needs to stop supporting policies that do not meet the needs of Black people.  Social conservatives in the Black community are not the same as social conservative in the white community.  <br></br><br>Black social conservatives know sometimes police act based on prejudice.  White social conservatives believe the police are always right.  Black social conservatives want the Black under employed to be educated and have good jobs.  White social conservatives want to help the deserving poor.  Some White social conservatives believe the confederate flag is no big deal.   Black social conservatives ...,  Well, you get my drift.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_16:18:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "d3f0aaf3547da2cdf07b0b927717b919", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968079": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "D you're back to your LAME AZZ, Dillbilly framing again:<br></br><br><b>So with that said-that black people already consider themselves socially conservative-why do you think they align with the democratic party, if it flies in the face of what they believe?</b></br><br></br><br>First, I didn't say Black people's support for the Democrat party \"flies in the face of what they believe.\"  That was the language you used to describe how the Republicans disrespect the Black electorate, not mine (about the Democrats).  Straight DILL and no skill, D.  I'm tired of feeling embarrassed for you.</br><br></br><br>Second, I mentioned that there are a range of issues that the GOP doesn't respect, particularly the priority-importance African-Americans place on those issues.  The GOP uses WEDGES ISSUES assume that since they work with White folk, they'll work with Black as well.  That's dill, too.</br><br></br><br>Final point, there is no conflict.  Being socially conservative (which, again, is not to be confused with being politically conservative, you equivocating fool, you) is not mutually exclusive of the social justice, economic and equality issues we are all well aware of in the form of affirmative action and the desire for the same tool (government) that caused group disadvantaged to be used in remedying it.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_16:19:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3ecde559248958521e4cb25a77f2ee65", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968080": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Okay, Nquest, we're going to take this one small step at a time:<br></br><br>You said, and I quote: <i>\"I mentioned that there are a range of issues that the GOP doesn't respect, particularly the priority-importance African-Americans place on those issues.\"</i></br><br></br><br>In your opinion, what are those issues?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_16:22:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968081": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "nquest,<br></br><br>Do you believe that only the federal government can adequately address social injustice?</br><br></br><br>If you see the government as more of the solution than the problem, then I can see why you are a Democrat.</br><br></br><br>But, IMO, the Democrat party has been in charge of social constructivism since FDR.</br><br></br><br>The Democrats have created more government entitlement programs that keep recipients dependent on government, without solving the overarching problems inherently behind the programs.</br><br></br><br>Welfare fostered dependency on government and contributed to the breakdown of the black family. Race and gender based Affirmative Action   and support for extending benefits and citizenship to illegal immigrants has increased resentment among Americans. This resentment is on display within your own party.</br><br></br><br>The Democrat party has built itself up by promising various marginalized groups that they have the cure for what ails them, that they alone, through big government, can provide the solutions. As long as black voters continue to buy into that, many will have to lead a 'political double life.'</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_16:23:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968082": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "No, D...  That is a FRAMING issue you have.  Simply, when I don't say anything to the effect that \"Black voting for Democrats flies in the face...\" then don't ask me a question with that assumption built in to it. PERIOD.<br></br><br>What did I tell you?</br><br></br><br><b>Ask me questions about something I say. Not about some script you come to this blog with.</b></br><br></br><br>You better get some hearing aids or something.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_16:28:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3ecde559248958521e4cb25a77f2ee65", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968083": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Completely unrelated to the current discussion....<br></br><br>Can anyone recommend a good, (somewhat) non-partisan book on the economy?</br><br></br><br>Want to do more than just read Greenspan's. ;)</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_16:31:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968084": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<b>Okay, Nquest, we're going to take this</b><br></br><br>No, we are not going to take anything.  You will:</br><br></br><br><b>Ask me a question about something I say. Not about some script you come to this blog with.</b></br><br></br><br>Or you will STFU talking to me.  Really, it's not that hard.  It's a very civil and respectful way to have a conversation.  </br><br></br><br>And stop acting like your a Grade A dumbazz.  You know the issues the GOP strikes out with insofar as Black voters are concerned.</br><br></br><br>You want to have a conversation with me (and that's the way it is, not the other way around), you better have a point to it and you better come right out with it.  Instead of trying to play games with FRAMES.  This is real simple:</br><br></br><br><b>Ask me a question about something I say. Not about some script you come to this blog with.</b></br><br></br><br>Add to that:  come out with what you want to say.  You aren't capable of providing steps for me to follow.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_16:34:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3ecde559248958521e4cb25a77f2ee65", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968085": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Junglecat,<br></br><br>My apologies.  I assumed your post was S'.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_16:38:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3ecde559248958521e4cb25a77f2ee65", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968086": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Nquest,<br></br><br>You said:</br><br></br><br><i>\"Ask me a question about something I say...Or you will STFU talking to me,\"</i></br><br></br><br>...after I asked you a question about what you said.</br><br></br><br>After this, I'm not responding to anything else you have to say on this thread. </br><br></br><br>But please, look at what you said, and what I asked you earlier. There's a disconnect there.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_16:41:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968087": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Nquest,<br>With all the ranting and babbling you\u2019ve been doing today, humble me thought that you might need a break, i.e. you need to relax, so here is something to help you do it: </br><br><a href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8PIbrMh6vo\" rel=\"nofollow\">In memory of Bo Diddley</a></br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_16:41:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3da39b121dc85e9bd8d9f861782bc8b9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968088": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<b>Do you believe that only the federal government can adequately address social injustice?</b><br></br><br>Do you believe in asking a question that makes sense?  Apparently not.</br><br></br><br>What did I say about social (in)justice?  If you can't engage what I say don't talk to me.</br><br></br><br>IS THAT CLEAR??</br><br></br><br></br><br><i>Being socially conservative is not mutually exclusive of the [important] social justice, economic and equality issues... and the desire for the same tool (government) that caused group disadvantaged to be used in remedying it.</i></br><br></br><br>Let me say that again:</br><br><b>the desire for the same tool (government) that caused group disadvantaged to be used in remedying it</b></br><br></br><br>That's one of them RESPONSIBILITY things, a message conservatives like to talk about, right?</br><br></br><br>Okay.  So what's the problem?</br><br></br><br></br><br><b>((((I can see why you are a Democrat.))))</b></br><br></br><br>Who said I was a Democrat?</br><br></br><br></br><br><b>(((IMO, the Democrat party has been in charge of social constructivism since FDR.)))</b></br><br></br><br>STFU!!   I didn't ask you about your opinion of the Democratic party and you must be suffering from hearing loss too.</br><br></br><br>Talking about what the Democrats did that you don't like when they shared government with Republicans doesn't strength an argument against them or for the Republicans.  It is a two-party system and they are both complicit in it all... just like the Iraq war.</br><br></br><br>What part of:</br><br><b>F-ck a Democrat and MuthaF*CK a Gottdamn Republican don't you understand?</b></br><br></br><br>This is a 3 dimensional world, S.  Why are you so 2 dimensional and can't function without your partisan bias.</br><br></br><br></br><br><b>(((This resentment is on display within your own party.)))</b></br><br></br><br>My party?  Which party is that?  Signify it be quoting where I declared which party I was a card carrying member of or STFU!!!</br><br></br><br>Got to democraticunderground with that bs.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_16:55:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3ecde559248958521e4cb25a77f2ee65", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968089": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "anon @ 1:04,<br></br><br>Think about it...</br><br></br><br>Black voters have a choice and they choose not to exercise it. Why? What do they believe about the Republican party? Why do they believe it?</br><br></br><br>Democrats rely on partisanship to advance to prove to their constituents that their agenda is 'right'. Identity politics demands that Democrats make promises to groups and when they fail to deliver or feel threatened, the opposition (Republicans) becomes the target and is chastised, demonized, 'we're right, they're wrong.' </br><br></br><br>All sensible discussion and moderate positions tend to disappear.</br><br></br><br>One example, school choice. School choice is roundly opposed by the teachers' union, which is 100% in the Democrat party.  School choice could be a successful educational reform and is shown to have support among black voters, 85% in the Democrat party, but it will never happen, not because it is a bad idea, but because competing groups will be in conflict and the group that wields the most power, contributes the most money or protests the loudest will stifle debate or chastise the opposition. </br><br></br><br>Jan. 29, 2008</br><br></br><br>\"Lawmakers in Albany were given a powerful reminder of the political danger of siding in favor of school choice measures when the state's largest teachers union yesterday endorsed the Republican candidate in an important special election that will take place next month for a seat in the state Senate.\"</br><br></br><br>Even a move of a significant number of black voters to register as independents would create competition for their votes.</br><br></br><br>As a free-market, capitalist, I believe competition is good, and addresses the needs of the individual and the group.</br><br></br><br>It would not end partisan politics, but it would go a long way in advancing the interests of education, economic opportunity and advancement, and a wide range of issue that are of concern to a majority of Americans.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_16:55:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968090": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "In other words, <b>poor Karmi</b>, has TAPPED OUT and won't dare try to defend his bs argument that the Black Liberation Theology of Wright and Cone amounts to the same kind of \"hatred\" via racism/prejudice espoused/practiced by White Supremacists (you know, those people who feel like they should rule over non-White people in this society) and the KKK (known for ACTIONS, ACTIONS, ACTIONS the followed their words).<br></br><br></br><br>Of course, Karmi's concession and desire not to carry on with that indefensible dumbsh*t was only a matter of time. </br><br></br><br> ______________________</br><br></br><br>PS:</br><br></br><br>I'll help you find distractions or anything else you want to change the subject, Karmi.  All you had to do was ask.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_17:01:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3ecde559248958521e4cb25a77f2ee65", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968091": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "s,<br></br><br>It's Democratic Party...not Democrat Party.</br><br></br><br>....that was kind of bugging me, my friend.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_17:08:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "7c4455626754e1b9bc3be232b1024136", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968092": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "nquest,<br></br><br>IMO, Democrats practice identity politics based on groups by nature of their birth. Republicans practice identity politics based on individuals choosing their group.</br><br></br><br>Both Democrats and Republicans have exploited identity politics for political gain.</br><br></br><br>It would follow then that independents who are aligned on a variety of issues, social and political, would wield the most influence.</br><br></br><br>You seem to speak of the concerns of blacks in monolithic terms. Do all black people have the same political priorities? What would those priorities be? Do any of these priorities intersect with conservative independents?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_17:30:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968093": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<a href=\"http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/02/majority-whip-jim-clyburn_n_104768.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Majority Whip Jim Clyburn Endorses Obama</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_17:53:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968094": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<a href=\"http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/02/cheney-makes-incest-joke_n_104761.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Cheney Makes Incest Joke About West Virginians</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_17:57:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968095": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "d,<br></br><br>I would recommend:</br><br></br><br>Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt. Written in 1946 it has been a guidebook through dozens of economic fallacies while also showing the logic of the free market. </br><br></br><br>Basic Economics: A Citizen's Guide to the Economy by Thomas Sowell.  Explains the elementary principles of sound, free-market economics through criticisms and critiques of dozens of domestic and international economic policies, with historical examples.</br><br></br><br>How the Economy Works : An Investor's Guide to Tracking the Economy by Edmund A. Mennis. Describes how changes in the economic environment are measured. Economic statistics that bombard the public are explained in concise, readable form. He describes where the statistics come from, how they are derived, who produces them, where they are published and what they mean.</br><br></br><br>Hope this helps.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_17:58:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968096": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Mahmoud Ahmadinejad continues his own \u201cpreparations\u201d for a meeting with President Barack Obama by reminding the world what he wants. The Iranian news agency Mehr reports that Ahmadinejad promised that Muslims will soon uproot \u201csatanic powers\u201d, and that the mission will spell an end to the United States and Israel. Does this qualify as the \u201ccommon interests\u201d that Obama sees between Iran and the United States?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_18:02:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "7c4455626754e1b9bc3be232b1024136", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968097": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i>is bob barr passing<br></br><br></br></i><br></br><br>Hell yeah, he's passing..LOL</br><br></br><br>This has been a debate for years.</br><br></br><br>But, Bob's got too many ' Negroid' features, if you know what I mean..LOL</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_19:53:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968098": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i>s said... <br>nquest, rikyrah, d, et al,</br><br></br><br>Sexism does not need to actually exist in this primary, in order for women to feel that Hillary has been treated unfairly.</br><br></br></i><br></br><br>dear s,</br><br></br><br>See, the reason I don't buy the ' sexism' whining is the following:</br><br></br><br>1. She had more advantages than ANY modern political Presidential candidate (even George W. Bush, because say what you want about Bush 41, he simply didn't get involved in 43's campaign the way that Bubba did Hillpatine's). </br><br></br><br>This includes ALL THE MEN WHO PRECEEDED HER in trying to get the Presidency.</br><br></br><br>2. Her willingness to play the White Woman Victim DECK -- not card, DECK. </br><br></br><br>3. We have a ClintonAttacksObama Wiki Incident Page that is up to FIFTY.</br><br></br><br>FIFTY. </br><br></br><br>I challenge ANY Hillpatine supporter to be able to compile a ClintonSexismWiki with 20 incidents, let alone 50. AND, I'll add that they can't find FIVE coming from the Obama camp.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_20:00:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968099": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Bill Clinton is having a meltdown.  He's saying now that Obama is having others smear Hillary...I guess Vanity Fair, etc.<br></br><br>I can't see how he can go from wild accusations to campaigning for Barack.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_20:02:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968100": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i>Clinton is known to want Obama to help out black officials who endorsed her and are now taking constituent heat, including, in some cases, primary challenges from pro-Obama politicians. <br>----------------</br><br></br><br>Hell to the naw. Obama should not endorse anyone and let the chips fall where they may. You had black Clinton surrogates sitting on CNN, etc. aiding and abetting the race baiting, in some cases actively participating in it (Tubbs Jones), but Clinton wants Obama to \"save\" them? So they can sabotage him from the halls of Congress? No, if the will of the people is that Tubbs Jones and her ilk have to be swept away, so be it. I'm not mad that they supported Clinton; that's their right. I'm mad they sat back while she and her campaign all but said the N-word and they just laughed and cackled and defended that crap like they were the 2008 version of ManTan and Sleep N Eat. Naw, they gotta go. Good riddance.</br></i><br></br><br>I'm with Town on this. </br><br></br><br>Obama needs to stand on the sidelines and let Black folk take care of the Clinton Negroes - PERIOD. </br><br></br><br>ESPECIALLY the ones who aided and abetted in the racebaiting, though all of them need to be hung out to dry.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_20:02:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968101": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Pamela,<br></br><br>I really appreciated you pointing out your political preferences. </br><br></br><br>I'm a Democrat, mostly. Though I believe I'd be happier being an Indenpendent.</br><br></br><br>Socially, I'm pretty conservative. </br><br></br><br>I don't have a gun, but will not take others and believe that gun laws only help the criminals. </br><br></br><br>I believe strongly in the institution of marriage, and how the lack of respect for that institution has harmed our community a great deal. </br><br></br><br>Abortion - I believe in a woman's right to choose, though I believe it her RESPONSIBLITY not to place herself in that position. </br><br></br><br>Gay rights - sort of middle of the road but completely against amending The Constitution with the DOMA. Don't mess with The Constitution. </br><br></br><br>I really appreciated your explanation of your political thought process.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_20:08:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968102": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Rikyrah,<br>So,then-considering what you believe-why are you a democrat?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_20:15:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968103": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "d, <br></br><br>fiscally liberal. </br><br></br><br>d, </br><br></br><br>I also don't think I'm an oddity. Black folk are the most conservative - socially - portion of the Democratic Party. </br><br></br><br>This is my position on guns, and a lot of the Black folk I talk to agree.</br><br></br><br>I'm not for taking anyone else's LEGAL guns from them.</br><br></br><br>I just want to know why these legal gun owners allow the scumbags to hide behind them and pimp them the way that they do, by hiding behind the mirage that if you have some registration of firearms, the world will come to an end. </br><br></br><br>I am against semi-automatic weapons though. The only point of them is to kill a whole lot of people. Only law enforcement should be able to have them. Anyone who pretends that they need them for hunting is a LIAR, because you wouldn't kill an animal with such a messy weapon.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_20:29:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968104": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Hilary Rosen is on Campbell Brown saying Hillary has lists of SD and she'll be in NY tomorrow calling them because she wants them to personally justify the decision they're about to make.(paraphrasing)<br></br><br>So I guess she'll try to intimidate them from coming out for Barack tomorrow.</br><br></br><br>Gloria Borger, Hilary Rosen and Campbell are asking Roland(sole male and black) why Obama is limping across the finish line.  Roland explains that some states are tailor-made for certain candidates.  No one questioned why Hillary did so poorly in States Obama won blow-outs in.  </br><br></br><br>It felt like a set up of the 3 white women.  Of course, they had to show a clip of Pfleger.  I wonder if they notice that Pfleger is white?  They always seem put out by the congregation cheering in the background but not so much by Pfleger himself.</br><br></br><br>Despite all the preparations to the contrary.  Hillary is not entirely done fighting.  She will browbeat the SD's right to the last second.   She can't convince them to endorse her, but she'll try to prevent them from coming out for Barack and delay his victory.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_20:41:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968105": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Hey Rikyrah - that picture is pretty scary. lol", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_20:44:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "1231fd2a873665b8a67c9bd4abf4525c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968106": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "D - I read both articles and my answer is NO.  Not worth it.<br></br><br>Here are a few articles of my own.</br><br></br><br>Marine 'lied' over Haditha deaths </br><br>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7426429.stm</br><br></br><br>The Iraq war: Counting the cost</br><br>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7304300.stm</br><br></br><br>Toxic world fallout from Iraq invasion.</br><br>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7293689.stm</br><br></br><br>Excerpt:However, even if the war turns out to be \"winnable\", its critics dismiss any suggestion that it was \"worth it\".</br><br></br><br>Struggle for Iraq</br><br>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/middle_east/2002/conflict_with_iraq/default.stm</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_21:20:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "1231fd2a873665b8a67c9bd4abf4525c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968107": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "rikyrah,<br></br><br>In their view, the fact that a young male upstart was able to leapfrog over an older woman who had 'paid her dues' is in and of itself sexist.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_21:21:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968108": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Ed Schulz is throwing down on Larry King.  Everybody talks about Hillary getting respect.  What about Barack's respect for running a masterful campaign?  He is so far ahead, he can afford to stop competing with her for the last 4 contests and turn his full attention to McCain.  But here's Kiki and co. on Larry King talking about the last 2 contests.  I suppose they're emboldened by the SD's not coming out in force today.<br></br><br>Where the f*ck are the superdelegates??!</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_21:54:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968109": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Hi Truthseeker - I watched MSNBC tonight and they discussed the superdelegates trickle.  It was said they want to let the primary run it's course so there would be nothing else for Hillary and her supporters to dispute.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_22:03:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "1231fd2a873665b8a67c9bd4abf4525c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968110": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Ed said a either a (Senator or aide) told him that they can't leave Bill in a hotel lobby by himself.<br></br><br>So, it's the night before the last primaries for Obama and Hillary, and what is the MSM talking about?  BILL!</br><br></br><br>It's becoming apparent the Clinton's haven't been vetted.  The GOP had no idea on how to attack Obama until Hillary showed them how.  Republicans would be so happy to have Hillary on the ticket!  They'd use Billary to take him down.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_22:07:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968111": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Val,<br></br><br>Hi.  Barack deserves to be able to declare victory.  If he doesn't reach the number by tomorrow, he might not get that chance.  Really, should the Superdelegates be making all their decisions based on what Hillary and her supporters will think?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_22:13:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968112": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "In a year that for historical and contemporary reasons should be a Democratic shoo-in, the Democrats have nominated about the only candidate who can lose in November.<br></br><br>Why?</br><br></br><br>I just don\u2019t see how such an inexperienced candidate can rein in his wife, curb his own slips, monitor all of his past dubious role models, and avoid the growing divide between utopian rhetoric and pretty 'typical politician' tactics and embarrassing past associations. And I don\u2019t think he has yet to figure out that Republican and independents' unhappiness with Bush\u2019s spending, appointments, and inability to articulate a message, and defend himself does not really equate to a desire for billions in new taxes and unworkable new programs.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_22:16:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "7c4455626754e1b9bc3be232b1024136", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968113": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Ben Smith @ politico.com:<br></br><br>A Clinton donor tells me that on a conference call today with major fundraisers this afternoon, Harold Ickes told them Clinton isn't planning to drop out. He pressed donors to stay unified, and reviewed tactical options, including challenging the Michigan delegation.</br><br></br><br>State finance committees are also circulating letters to deliver to Clinton tomorrow in New York, and I've obtained a draft of the Illinois finance committee's letter, being circulated by a Clinton fundraising aide, Rafi Jafri, which stresses a fight until the convention, and a resolution in \"August, and no earlier.\"</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_22:24:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "7c4455626754e1b9bc3be232b1024136", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968114": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<b>nquest,<br>You seem to speak of the concerns of blacks in monolithic terms.</br></b> <br></br><br>S, you ARE a stupid mf scramblin', trying to find a point like a starved squirrel trying to find a nut.  What that you say?</br><br></br><br>Monolith??</br><br></br><br>You're the \"your party\" mf who throws that sh*t out like the old standard \"you people.\" So stop trying to project your f-ck ups on me.</br><br></br><br>How the hell you're going to try to pin some \"monolith\" stuff on me when I stated how I guess you're not a BOOKERISTA? </br><br></br><br>BOOKERISTA = people who are, per the Booker Rising blog, \"black moderates and black conservatives.\"  </br><br></br><br>I also mentioned Black Republicans Lynn Swann and <a href=\"http://www.wayneperryman.com/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wayne Perryman</a>, the author of the book Unfounded Loyalty: An In-Depth Look Into The Love Affair Between Blacks and Democrats.  </br><br></br><br>Those things and the very explicit fact that I used the phrase \"THE BLACK POLITICAL CONSENSUS\" makes your statement fraudulent and questions like this:</br><br></br><br><b>Do all black people have the same political priorities?</b> </br><br></br><br>Utterly STUPID and baseless!   S, you are the dullest knife.</br><br></br><br></br><br>Goodbye.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_22:49:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3ecde559248958521e4cb25a77f2ee65", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968115": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "THE BLACK MONOLITH by S, the deaf conservative:<br></br><br></br><br><b>(())  Until black people CHOOSE party affiliation based on their INDIVIDUAL reasons and impulses</b></br><br></br><br>(())  As long as black voters continue to buy into that, many will have to lead a 'political double life.'</br><br></br><br>(())  Black voters have a choice and they choose not to exercise it.</br><br></br><br></br><br>Why, S, you seem to speak as if Black voters are a monolith.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_22:53:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3ecde559248958521e4cb25a77f2ee65", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968116": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Ed Schultz TOTALLY THREW DOWN on Larry King.<br></br><br>Might I say that I was LMAO with Hill Harper. I love him. I'll say it:</br><br></br><br>'Clean, neat, crisp....AND A FLAG PIN'</br><br></br><br>BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA</br><br></br><br>Go Hill!</br><br></br><br>I LOL just thinking about it.</br><br></br><br>But, Ed Schultz just threw down completely.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_23:01:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968117": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "See, I thought the picture was so cute. Awe.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_23:03:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968118": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "truthseeker,<br></br><br>among the MANY lies told by Camp Hillpatine, the biggest had to be that she was ' truly vetted'.</br><br></br><br>BULLSHIT!</br><br></br><br>5 Things. Don't even count Bill's below-the-belt-extracurriculars. </br><br></br><br>1. Full revealing of ALL her earmarks.</br><br>2. What's in the 18 million LEFT OUT of the tax returns?</br><br>3. What's in the Ron Burkle Partnership? What did he have to do to get it?</br><br>4. Donor list for the Clinton Library</br><br>5. Donor list for the Clinton Foundation</br><br></br><br>Those 5- and the GOP wouldn't even have to tell us whose been flying with Bill on those private planes.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_23:07:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968119": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Ha!  Kiki was mortified!  <br></br><br>Who are they trying to kid anyway?  Sexual predators don't change their ways just like that.  We know Bill's been up to no good.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_23:09:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968120": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Does this sound like a woman getting ready to bail? <br></br><br>Quote: \u201cTomorrow is the last day of the primaries and the beginning of a new phase in the campaign. After South Dakota and Montana vote I will lead in the popular vote and Senator Obama will lead in the delegate count. The voters will have voted and so the decision will fall to the delegates empowered to vote at the Democratic Convention.\u201d</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_23:37:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "7c4455626754e1b9bc3be232b1024136", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1968121": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "nquest,<br></br><br>You seem to be more interested in making snarky comments than engaging in a dialogue or debate.</br><br></br><br>Good night.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-06-02_23:41:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}}, "integration": {"receiver_url": "", "theme": 4, "reply_position": true, "disqus_logo": false}, "timer": {"timer_url": "http://localhost:8005", "thread_id": "3964694", "user_id": "anonymous", "forum_id": "21630", "hash": 8484911158284748090}, "thread": {"days_alive": 0, "slug": "monday_open_thread_it8217s_a_new_week_61", "paginate": false, "num_pages": 1, "num_posts": 130, "per_page": 0, "total_posts": 0, "realtime_paused": true, "id": 3964694, "queued": false}, "reactions_limit": 10, "context": {"show_reply": true, "use_fb_connect": true, "forum_facebook_key": "bd6a8bc56f8eb204984f34b6fefe228d", "use_yahoo": false, "subscribed": false, "use_twitter_signin": true, "use_openid": false, "realtime_speed": 5000}, "reactions_start": 0, "settings": {"debug": false, "disqus_url": "http://disqus.com", "media_url": "http://media.disqus.com"}, "media_url": "http://media.disqus.com"};
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	this.frames = {};
};

var disqus_popup_reference = null;

if(typeof DsqLocal == 'undefined') {
	DsqLocal = {};
}



/**
 * Dsq.Strings: UI strings
 */
Dsq.Strings = new function() {
	this.ADD_NEW_COMMENT = "Add New Comment";
	this.LOG_INTO_DISQUS = "Log into DISQUS";
	this.USE_MEDIA = "Use Media";
	this.LOGOUT = "Logout";
	this.SHARING_OPTIONS = "Sharing options";
	this.SHARE_ON = "Share on";
	this.TWEET_THIS_COMMENT = "Tweet this comment";
	this.SHARE_ON_NEWSFEED = "Share on news feed";
	this.SEND_UPDATE_TO_YAHOO = "Send update to Yahoo!";
	this.REBLOG_ON = "Reblog on";
	this.CONFIGURE_OPTIONS = "Configure options";
	this.POST_AS = "Post as";
	this.SORT_BY = "Sort by";
	this.SUBSCRIBE_BY_EMAIL = "Subscribe by email";
	this.SUBSCRIBE_BY_RSS = "Subscribe by RSS";
	this.POPULAR_NOW = "Popular now";
	this.BEST_RATING = "Best Rating";
	this.NEWEST_FIRST = "Newest first";
	this.OLDEST_FIRST = "Oldest first";
	this.HIGHLIGHTED = "Highlighted";
	this.UNSUBSCRIBE = "Unsubscribe";
	this.REQUIRED = "Required";
	this.OPTIONAL = "Optional";
	this.YOU_ARE_COMMENTING_AS_A = "You are commenting as a";
	this.LOGIN_BELOW = "Login below";
	this.PLEASE_LOGIN_BELOW_TO_COMMENT = "Please login below to comment.";
	this.SUBSCRIBE_TO_ALL_COMMENTS_BY_EMAIL = "Subscribe to all comments by email";
	this.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS = "Do not subscribe to comments";
	this.REALTIME_UPDATING_IS = "Real-time updating is";
	this.ENABLED = "enabled";
	this.PAUSED = "paused";
	this.PAUSE = "Pause";
	this.RESUME = "Resume";
	this.SHOW = "Show";
	this.JUST_NOW = "Just now";
	this.REPLY = "Reply";
	this.EDIT = "Edit";
	this.FLAG = "Flag";
	this.MODERATE = "Moderate";
	this.CANCEL = "Cancel";
	this.REPLYING_TO = "Replying to";
	this.REPORT_MISSING_REACTIONS = "Report missing reactions";
	this.POST_A_COMMENT = "Post a comment";
	this.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT = "Flag inappropriate comment";
	this.FLAGGED = "Flagged";
	this.NO = "No";
	this.YES = "Yes";
	this.NEVER_MIND = "Never mind";
	this.ARE_YOU_SURE_YOU_WOULD_LIKE_TO_REPORT_THIS_COMMENT_TO_A_MODERATOR = "Are you sure you would like to report this comment to a moderator";
	this.THIS_WILL_FLAG_COMMENTS_FOR_MODERATORS_TO_TAKE_ACTION = "This will flag comments for moderators to take action";
	this.TO_RATE_PLEASE_LOG_IN = "To rate, please log in";
	this.JUST_A_MOMENT = "Just a moment...";
	this.GUEST = "Guest";
	this.NAME = "Name";
	this.EMAIL = "Email";
  this.WEBSITE = "Website";
  this.SETTINGS = "Settings";
  this.MODERATOR_OPTIONS = "Moderator options: ";
};
// Dsq.Strings

/**
 * Dsq.FmtStrings: functions that return interpolated UI strings
 */
Dsq.FmtStrings = new function() {
	// Seems we have to use named interpolation for Django to translate. Investigate more.
	this.LOGGED_IN_AS = function(username) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate('Logged in as %(username)s', {username:username});
	};

	this.LOGOUT_FROM = function(disqus) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate('Logout from %(disqus)s', {disqus:disqus});
	};

	this.SHOWING_COMMENTS_FULL = function(total, num) {
		if (num === 1) {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> of <span id='dsq-total-posts'>%(total)s</span> comment", {num:num, total:total});
		} else {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> of <span id='dsq-total-posts'>%(total)s</span> comments", {num:num, total:total});
		}
	};

	this.SHOWING_COMMENTS_WITHOUT_PAGINATION = function(num) {
		if (num === 1) {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> comment", {num:num});
		} else {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> comments", {num:num});
		}
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_COMMENTS = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s comment'
				: '%(num)s comments'
			), {num:num});
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_LIKES = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s like'
				: '%(num)s likes'
			), {num:num});
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_POINTS = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s point'
				: '%(num)s points'
			), {num:num});
	};
};
// Dsq.FmtStrings





Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN = '3a1994e3330279e78957da82fb64f754';
Dsq.COMMENTS_RE = /(<li.*?id="?dsq-comment-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/li>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_RE = /(<div.*?id="?dsq-comment-header-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/div>)\s*(<div.*?class="?dsq-comment-body"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_BODY_RE = /\s*(<div.*?id="?dsq-comment-message-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
// HACK: Safari ends with "-->" while other browsers end with "--&gt;" as expected.
Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE = /&lt;!--\[(.*?)\]--(?:>|&gt;)/gim;



var FragmentPacket = function(reader, writer, writer_url, is_child, receiveCallback) {
	var that = this;
	this.reader = reader;
	this.writer = writer;
	this.writer_url = writer_url;

	this.is_child = is_child || false;
	this.receiveCallback = receiveCallback;

	this._lastHash = null;

	this._accumMsg = '';

	this._lastSeqno = 0;

	this.MAX_DATA_LEN	= 1024;

	this.WAIT_TIME		= 10;

	this.READY		= 0x1;
	this.WRITING	= 0x2;
	this.FIN		= 0x4;
	this.ACK		= 0x8;

};

FragmentPacket.prototype.createListener = function() {
	var that = this;
	var listener = function() {
		that.recv();
	};
	return window.setInterval(listener, 10);
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.log = function(msg) {



};

FragmentPacket.prototype.recv = function() {
	var hash;
	if (/MSIE/.test(navigator.userAgent)) {

		hash = this.reader.name;
	} else {

		var hashIndex = this.reader.location.href.indexOf('#');
		if (hashIndex == -1) {
			return;
		}
		hash = this.reader.location.href.substring(hashIndex+1);
	}
	var flags = parseInt(hash.substring(0, 4), 10);
	var seqno = parseInt(hash.substring(4, 24), 10);
	var data  = hash.substring(24);

	if (this._lastHash !== hash) {
		this._lastHash = hash;
		this.log('recv: ' + hash);

		this.log(' flags: ' + flags);
		this.log(' seqno: ' + seqno + ' len: ' + hash.substring(4, 24).length + ' (' + hash.substring(4, 24) + ')');
		this.log(' data: ' + data + ' len: ' + data.length);

		this._lastSeqno = seqno;

		if (flags & this.WRITING) {
			this._accumMsg += data;
			this.sendFlag(this.ACK, seqno);
			if (flags & this.FIN) {
				this.log('recv finished: ' + decodeURIComponent(this._accumMsg));
				this.receiveCallback(decodeURIComponent(this._accumMsg));

				this._accumMsg = '';

				this.sendFlag(this.READY | this.ACK, this._lastSeqno);
			}
		}
	}

	return {
		flags: flags,
		seqno: seqno,
		data: data
	};
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.sendRawPacket = function(packet) {
	if (/MSIE/.test(navigator.userAgent)) {
		this.writer.name = packet;
	} else {

		this.writer.location.href = this.writer_url + '#' + packet;
	}

};

FragmentPacket.prototype.sendFlag = function(flag, seqno) {
	this.sendRawPacket(this._zerofill(flag, 4) + this._zerofill(seqno, 20));
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.send = function(msg) {
	this._send(0, encodeURIComponent(msg));
};

FragmentPacket.prototype._send = function(packetNum, msg) {
	var that = this;
	var recvBuf = this.recv();

	if (packetNum === 0) {

		if (!(recvBuf.flags & this.READY)) {
			this.log('client is not ready, waiting...');
			window.setTimeout(function() { that._send(packetNum, msg); }, this.WAIT_TIME);
			return;
		}
	} else {

		if (!( (recvBuf.flags & this.ACK) && (recvBuf.seqno === this._lastSeqno) )) {
			this.log('waiting for ack from client...');
			window.setTimeout(function() { that._send(packetNum, msg); }, this.WAIT_TIME);
			return;
		} else {
			this.log('received ack: ' + this._lastSeqno + ' ' + recvBuf.seqno);
		}
	}

	var flags = this.WRITING;
	var num_packets = Math.ceil(msg.length / this.MAX_DATA_LEN);
	this.log('num_packets: ' + num_packets);

	if (num_packets === packetNum) {

		this.log('message successfully sent!');
		this.sendFlag(this.READY | this.ACK, this._lastSeqno);
		return true;
	}

	this._lastSeqno++;

	if (packetNum == num_packets-1) {
		flags |= this.FIN;
	}

	var data = msg.substring(packetNum * this.MAX_DATA_LEN, (packetNum+1) * this.MAX_DATA_LEN);
	var packet = this._zerofill(flags, 4) + this._zerofill(this._lastSeqno, 20) + data;

	this.log('sending raw packet: ' + packet);
	this.sendRawPacket(packet);

	return this._send(packetNum + 1, msg);
};

FragmentPacket.prototype._zerofill = function(num, width) {
	var retval = num.toString();
	var retval_len = retval.length;
	for (var i = 0; i < width - retval_len; i++) {
		retval = '0' + retval;
	}
	return retval;
};

var PostMessagePacket = function(receiver, receiveCallback, id, receiverId) {
	var that = this;
	this.receiver = receiver;
	this.receiveCallback = receiveCallback;
	this.id = id;


	this.receiverId = receiverId;
};

PostMessagePacket.prototype.createListener = function() {
	var that = this;

	var listener = function(e) {

		if (!that.id) {
			that.id = e.data;
			return;
		}


		var id = e.data.split(';')[0];
		if (id !== that.id) {
			return;
		}
		var data = e.data.substring(e.data.indexOf(';') + 1);

		that.receiveCallback(data);
	};

	if (typeof window.attachEvent == 'function') {
		window.attachEvent('onmessage', listener);
	} else if (typeof window.addEventListener == 'function') {
		window.addEventListener('message', listener, false);
	} else {
		throw new Error('No method found to create event listener for PostMessagePacket.');
	}
};

PostMessagePacket.prototype.send = function(msg) {



	var needs_reget = false;
	try {
		if (typeof this.receiver.id == 'undefined' || typeof this.receiver.postMessage == 'undefined') {
			needs_reget = true;
		}
	} catch(e) {


	}
	if (needs_reget && typeof this.receiverId != 'undefined') {
		this.receiver = document.getElementById(this.receiverId).contentWindow;
	}

	var packet;
	if (!msg) {

		packet = this.id;
	} else {
		packet = this.id + ';' + msg;
	}
	this.receiver.postMessage(packet, '*');
};

PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = null;
PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id = function() {
	var id = (new Date()).getTime();
	if (id == PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id) {
		id++;
	}
	PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = id;
	return id.toString();
};

var JsonRpc = function() {

	this.ids = {};

	this.objectToJSON = function(obj) {
		var json = '';
		var results = [];

		if (obj === undefined || obj === null) {
			return 'null';
		}

		switch (obj.constructor) {
			case Object:
				for (var property in obj) {
					if (obj.hasOwnProperty(property)) {
						results.push(this.objectToJSON(property) + ': ' + this.objectToJSON(obj[property]));
					}
				}
				json = '{' + results.join(', ') + '}';
				break;
			case Array:
				for (var i = 0; i < obj.length; i++) {
					results.push(this.objectToJSON(obj[i]));
				}
				json = '[' + results.join(', ') + ']';
				break;
			case Number:
			case Boolean:
				json = obj.toString();
				break;
			case String:

				var specialChars = {'\b': '\\b', '\t': '\\t', '\n': '\\n', '\f': '\\f', '\r': '\\r', '\\': '\\\\'};

				json = obj.replace(/[\x00-\x1f\\]/g, function(match) {
					var ch = specialChars[match];
					return ch ? ch : '\\u00' + match.charCodeAt().toPaddedString(2, 16);
				});

				json = '"' + json.replace(/"/g, '\\"') + '"';
				break;
			default:

				json = 'null';
				break;
		}

		return json;
	};

	this.createHandler = function(send_func, registered_funcs) {
		var that = this;
		var handler = function(message) {

			try {
				var rpc = eval('(' + message + ')');
			} catch(e) {
				alert('bad JSON: ' + message);
				return;
			}
			if (rpc.method) {

				if (!registered_funcs[rpc.method]) {
					return;
				}

				var retval = registered_funcs[rpc.method].apply(null, rpc.params);
				if (rpc.id) {
					var response = {
						result: retval,
						error: null,	// TODO
						id: rpc.id
					};
					send_func(that.objectToJSON(response));
				}
			} else if(rpc.result) {

				if (!that.ids[rpc.id]) {
					return;
				}

				that.ids[rpc.id](rpc.result);
				delete that.ids[rpc.id];
			}
		};
		return handler;
	};

	this.execute = function(send_func, method, params, response_callback) {
		response_callback = response_callback || null;
		var id = (response_callback) ? (new Date()).getTime() : null;

		var request = {
			method: method,
			params: params,
			id: id
		};

		send_func(this.objectToJSON(request));

		if (id) {
			this.ids[id] = response_callback;
		}
	};
};
JsonRpc = new JsonRpc();

var ParentMessenger = function(childUrl, receiverUrl, container, receiveCallback) {


	if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Safari') >= 0 && parseInt(navigator.userAgent.substring(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Version/') + 8), 10) == 3) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	} else if (window.opera) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	}



	if (!receiverUrl &&
		navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Gecko') >= 0 &&
		parseFloat(navigator.userAgent.slice(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 3, navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 6)) < 1.9) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	}


	if (/msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent)) {


		if (document.domain == window.location.hostname) {
			receiverUrl = '';
		}
	}

	var that = this;
	this.childUrl = childUrl;
	this.receiverUrl = receiverUrl;
	this.container = container || document.body;

	this.packetHandler = null;


	this._ready = false;
	this._error = false;


	var _createReceiverForFragmentPacket = function() {

		that.receiver = document.createElement('iframe');
		that.receiver.src = receiverUrl;
		that.receiver.id = 'receiver_' + (new Date()).getTime();
		that.receiver.name = that.receiver.id;

		that.receiver.frameBorder = '0';
		that.receiver.frameSpacing = '0';
		that.receiver.style.borderStyle = 'none';

		var receiver_onload = function() {
			var receiver = document.getElementById(that.receiver.id).contentWindow;

			try {
				receiver.document.body.innerHTML = '';
			} catch(e) {

				that._error = true;
			}
			receiver.document.body.style.padding = '0px';
			receiver.document.body.style.margin = '0px';

			var child = receiver.document.createElement('iframe');
			child.id = 'child';
			child.name = 'child';
			child.src = that.childUrl;

			child.frameBorder = '0';
			child.frameSpacing = '0';
			child.style.borderStyle = 'none';
			child.style.width = '100%';
			child.style.height = '100%';
			receiver.document.body.appendChild(child);

			that.child = receiver.document.getElementById('child').contentWindow;
			that.receiver = receiver;

			that.packetHandler = new FragmentPacket(that.receiver, that.child, that.childUrl, false, receiveCallback);

			that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();

			that.packetHandler.sendFlag(that.packetHandler.READY, 0);

			that._ready = true;
		};

		that.receiver.onreadystatechange = function() {
			if (this.readyState == 'complete') {
				receiver_onload();
			}
		};

		that.receiver.onload = receiver_onload;







		if (Dsq.Utils.ie) {
			if (that.container.clientWidth === 0) {

				var _waitForWidth = function() {
					if (that.container.clientWidth > 0) {
						Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
					} else {
						window.setTimeout(_waitForWidth, 100);
					}
				};
				_waitForWidth();

				that._once = false;
				that.receiver.onresize = function() {
					if (!that._once) {
						Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
					}
					that._once = true;
				};
			}
		}

		that.container.appendChild(that.receiver);
	};


	var _createReceiverForPostMessage = function() {

		var receiver_onload = function() {

			that.packetHandler.send();
			that._ready = true;
		};

		var id = PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id();
		var receiverId = 'child_' + id;


		ParentMessenger['_receiver_onload_' + receiverId] = receiver_onload;

		that.container.innerHTML += '<iframe ' +
			'src="' + childUrl + '" ' +
			'id="' + receiverId + '" ' +
			'name="' + receiverId + '" ' +
			'onload="ParentMessenger._receiver_onload_' + receiverId +'();" ' +
			'></iframe>';

		that.receiver = document.getElementById(receiverId).contentWindow;
		that.packetHandler = new PostMessagePacket(that.receiver, receiveCallback, id, receiverId);
		that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();
	};

	if (typeof window.postMessage == 'function') {
		_createReceiverForPostMessage();
	} else {
		_createReceiverForFragmentPacket();
	}

};

ParentMessenger.prototype.sendMessage = function(message) {
	var that = this;
	if (!this._ready) {

		window.setTimeout(function() { that.sendMessage(message); }, 10);
		return;
	}
	this.packetHandler.send(message);
	return true;
};

Dsq.NewFrames = function(url) {
	this.url = url;
};

Dsq.NewFrames.prototype.init = function(onFailure) {
	var that = this;

	try {
		this.messenger = new ParentMessenger(this.url, Dsq.jsonData.integration.receiver_url, this.container, this.receive_callback);
	} catch(e) {
		if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
			onFailure();
		}
	}

	if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
		var iId = window.setInterval(function() {
			if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
				return;
			}
			if (that.messenger._ready) {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
			} else if (that.messenger._error) {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
				onFailure();
			}
		}, 10);
	}
};

Dsq.NewFrames.prototype._execute = function(method, args, callback) {
	var that = this;
	if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
		return false;
	}
	JsonRpc.execute(
		function(msg) { that.messenger.sendMessage(msg); },
		method,
		args || [],
		callback);
	return true;
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame = function(container, parent_post_id) {
	var that = this;
	this.container = container;
	this.parent_post_id = parent_post_id;

	var sendFunc = function(msg) {

		Dsq.Debug.log('Dsq.ReplyFrame.sendFunc');
		that.messenger.sendMessage(msg);
	};


	var postComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
		Dsq.jsonData.posts[response.message.id] = response.message.post_meta;
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key]) {
			Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key] = response.message.user_meta;
		}


		var reply_position = (typeof(disqus_insert_wrt_sort) == 'undefined' 
			? (Dsq.jsonData.forum.reply_position ? -1 : null) 
			: (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 2 ? null : -1));
		
		if (response.message.post_meta.approved) {
			Dsq.Post.insert(response.message.post_meta.parent_post_id || reply_position, response.message.id, response.message.post_meta.message);
		}

		Dsq.Templates.postComment_onSuccess(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
	};

	var postComment_onFailure = function(response) {
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(response.message, 'Error');
		Dsq.Templates.postComment_onFailure(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
	};

	var editComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
		var post_id = parent_post_id;
		var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);
		
		message.innerHTML = response.message;
		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};
	
	var editComment_onFailure = function(response) {
		var post_id = parent_post_id;
		
		Dsq.Popup.popModal('Sorry, there was an error editing this comment.', 'Edit Error');
		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	var getUserByEmail_onSuccess = function(response) {
		var msg = response.message;
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(parent_post_id);

		if (msg.username) {

			Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'login', {
				'username': msg.username,
				'display_name': msg.display_name,
				'avatar_url': msg.avatar_url,
				'verified': msg.verified,
				'email': fields.email.value
			});
		} else {

			Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'register');
		}
	};

	var validateAuth_onSuccess = function(response, auth_choice) {
		Dsq.Templates.postComment(parent_post_id, null, true, auth_choice);
	};

	var validateAuth_onFailure = function(response, auth_choice) {
		var pid = parent_post_id ? '-' + parent_post_id : '';
		var msg = response.message;

		if (auth_choice == 'register') {
			var fields = ['email', 'username', 'password'];

			for (var i = 0; i < fields.length; i++) {
				var field = fields[i];
				var errorDiv = Dsq.$('dsq-' + field + '-errors' + pid);

				if (msg[field]) {
					errorDiv.innerHTML = msg[field];
				} else {
					errorDiv.innerHTML = '';
				}
			}
		} else if (auth_choice == 'login') {
			Dsq.$('dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid).innerHTML = '<p>We couldn\'t log you in. Please verify your login.</p>';
		}
		
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	this.receive_callback = JsonRpc.createHandler(sendFunc, {
		'postComment.onSuccess': postComment_onSuccess,
		'postComment.onFailure': postComment_onFailure,
		'editComment.onSuccess': editComment_onSuccess,
		'editComment.onFailure': editComment_onFailure,		
		'getUserByEmail.onSuccess': getUserByEmail_onSuccess,
		'validateAuth.onSuccess': validateAuth_onSuccess,
		'validateAuth.onFailure': validateAuth_onFailure,
		'reload': function() { window.location.reload(); }
	});

	this.url = Dsq.Urls.REPLY +
		'?' + (new Date()).getTime() +
		'&f=jackandjillpolitics' +
		'&t=monday_open_thread_it8217s_a_new_week_61' +
		'&ff=' + Dsq.Thread.ff +
		'&default_text=' + disqus_default_text +
		'&ifrs=' + encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css);
	if (this.parent_post_id) {
		this.url += '&parent_post=' + this.parent_post_id;
	}
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype = new Dsq.NewFrames(Dsq.ReplyFrame.url);

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.post = function(author_name, author_email, author_url, authenticate, sharing_services, subscribe) {
	this._execute('postComment', [author_name, author_email, author_url, authenticate, sharing_services, subscribe]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.edit = function(post_id, message) {
	this._execute('editComment', [post_id, message]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.setState = function(parent_post_id, depth) {
	this._execute('setState', [parent_post_id, depth]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.getUserByEmail = function(email) {
	this._execute('getUserByEmail', [email]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.validateAuth = function(auth_choice, email, username, password) {
	this._execute('validateAuth', [auth_choice, email, username, password]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.authenticateFacebook = function(session, forum_url) {
	this._execute('authenticateFacebook', [session, forum_url]);
};

	Dsq.Facebook = function() {
	var that = this;

	var handleSessionData = function(session) {

		var forum_url = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;




		if (typeof disqus_facebook_forum != 'undefined') {
			forum_url = disqus_facebook_forum;
		}
		Dsq.frames.reply_0.authenticateFacebook(session, forum_url);
	};

	var onLogin = function() {
		FB.Connect.getSignedPublicSessionData(handleSessionData);
	};

	this.login = function() {
		FB.Connect.requireSession(onLogin, true);
	};
};
Dsq.Facebook = new Dsq.Facebook();


	






Dsq.Themes = {};

Dsq.Themes.narcissus = new function() {
	this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-form-area';
	this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-textarea-wrapper';



	
	this.header = function() {
		var comments_count, total_posts, num_posts;
		var html = '';
		var missing_perm_tmpl;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.missing_perm) {
			missing_perm_tmpl = Dsq.Templates.missingPermissions();
			if (missing_perm_tmpl) {
				html += '<div class="dsq-missing-permissions">' + missing_perm_tmpl + '</div>';
			}
		}

		total_posts = Dsq.jsonData.thread.total_posts;
		num_posts = Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_posts;

		if (total_posts) {
			comments_count = Dsq.FmtStrings.SHOWING_COMMENTS_FULL(total_posts, num_posts);
		} else {
			comments_count = Dsq.FmtStrings.SHOWING_COMMENTS_WITHOUT_PAGINATION(num_posts);
		}

		html += ' \
		<div id="dsq-comments-title"> \
			<h3>' + comments_count + '</h3> \
		</div> \
		';

		html += ' \
		<div class="dsq-options"> \
			<span class="dsq-item-sort">'
				+ Dsq.Strings.SORT_BY + ' \
				<select id="dsq-sort-select" onchange="Dsq.Thread.sortBy(this.value);"> \
					<option value="hot" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 4 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.POPULAR_NOW + '</option> \
					<option value="best" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 3 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.BEST_RATING + '</option> \
					<option value="newest" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 2 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.NEWEST_FIRST + '</option> \
					<option value="oldest" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 1 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.OLDEST_FIRST + '</option> \
				</select> \
				&nbsp; \
			</span> \
			<span class="dsq-subscribe-email"> \
				<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/email.png" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle"> \
				<span id="dsq-subscribe">'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.subscribed
						? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(0); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.UNSUBSCRIBE + '</a>'
						: '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_EMAIL + '</a>')
				+ '</span> \
			</span> \
			<span class="dsq-subscribe-rss" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle"> \
				<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/bullet-feed.png" alt="" /> \
				<a href="http://jackandjillpolitics.disqus.com/monday_open_thread_it8217s_a_new_week_61/latest.rss">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_RSS + '</a> \
			</span> \
		</div> \
		';

		
		

		return html;

	};
	
	this.footer = function() {
		var html = '';

		html += Dsq.Templates.pagination();

		
		
			html += Dsq.Templates.realtime();
			html += Dsq.Templates.showThreadSettings();
			html += Dsq.Templates.postBox();

		html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
		


		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator) {
 			html += ' \
				<div class="dsq-global-moderator-extras">'
					+ '<strong>shortname:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.forum.url
					+ '<strong>thread id:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.id
					+ '<strong>thread slug:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.slug
				+ '</div> \
			';
		}

		return html;
	};
	
	this.realtime = function() {
		var html = '';
		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			html += '<div id="dsq-realtime-options" class="dsq-options">'
					 + Dsq.Strings.REALTIME_UPDATING_IS + ' <strong id="dsq-realtime-status" style="text-transform: lowercase">' + Dsq.Strings.ENABLED + '</strong>. \
					 <a href="#" id="dsq-realtime-toggle" style="text-transform: capitalize"></a> \
					</div>';
		}

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
			html += ' \
				<div style="display: none" id="dsq-realtime-alert" class="dsq-realtime-alert"><span id="dsq-realtime-queued"></span> <a href="#" id="dsq-realtime-show"></a></div> \
			';
		}
		
		return html;
	};

	this.showThreadSettings = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '<div id="dsq-thread-settings" class="dsq-thread-settings">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATOR_OPTIONS;
		html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.showSettings(); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.SETTINGS + '</a>';
		if (Dsq.jsonData.forum.reactions_enabled && Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.reportMissingReactions(); return false;">'
						+ Dsq.Strings.REPORT_MISSING_REACTIONS
						+ '</a>';
		}
		html +='</div>';

		return html;
	};

	this.postBox = function(post_id, use_fallback_iframe) {


		var html;
		var display_sharing_options = Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated;

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post) {
			return '';
		}
		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote) {


			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.hasOwnProperty(Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain)) {
				display_sharing_options = false;
			}
		}
		
		if (post_id) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];				
		}
		
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';

		var _requestUserInfo = function() {
			var html;



			var user_has_email = false;

			html = '<div class="dsq-request-user-info"> <!-- // If authenticated --> \
				<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT + '?ctkn=' + Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN + '" class="dsq-request-user-logout">' + Dsq.Strings.LOGOUT + '</a> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td rowspan="2">'
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE + '">' : '')
								+ '<img src="' + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR + '" width="48" height="48" class="dsq-request-user-avatar">'
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '</a>' : '')
						+ '</td> \
						<td class="dsq-request-user-name">'
								+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
									 ? '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-' + Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain + '">' + Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain + '</span>'
									 : (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_verified
											? '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span>'
											: '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span>'))
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? ' <a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE + '">' : '') 
								+ Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username 
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '</a>' : '')
							+  (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && user_has_email ? ' <small>(<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.remoteAccountSettings(); return false;">change settings</a>)</small>' : '')
							+  (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? ' <small>(<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/info/" target="_blank">change name</a> or <a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/avatar/" target="_blank">picture</a>)</small>' : '')
						+ '</td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-request-user-stats"> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.comments_count + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.comments_count == 1 ? 'comment' : 'comments') + '</span> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.likes_count + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.likes_count == 1 ? 'like' : 'likes') + '</span> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.points + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.points == 1 ? 'point' : 'points') + '</span> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div> \
			';
			return html;
		};

		var _loginOptions = function() {
			var html;
			html = ' \
			<div class="dsq-authenticate"> \
				<p class="dsq-autheneticate-copy">'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
					? Dsq.Strings.YOU_ARE_COMMENTING_AS_A + ' <a class="dsq-help" title="Click for more information" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Guest</a>. ' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL + ': ' + Dsq.Strings.LOGIN_BELOW + '.'
					: Dsq.Strings.REQUIRED + ': ' + Dsq.Strings.PLEASE_LOGIN_BELOW_TO_COMMENT + '.')
				+ '</p> \
				<ul class="dsq-login-buttons">'
					+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-disqus.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Facebook.login(); return false;"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-facebook.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-twitter.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.requestURL(); return false" ><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-openid.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_yahoo ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Yahoo.startYahooConnect(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-yahoo.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
				+ '</ul> \
			</div> \
			';
			return html;
		};

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {


			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {



				return '<div id="dsq-form-area" style="display:none"><div id="dsq-textarea-wrapper"></div></div>' + _loginOptions();
			} else {
				return '';
			}
		}

		html = ' \
		<div id="' + (post_id 
			? 'dsq-reply-post-' + post_id
			: 'dsq-new-post')
		 	+ '" class="dsq-post-area"> \
			<div class="dsq-dc-logo"> \
				<a href="http://disqus.com/comments" target="_blank"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/disqus-logo.png"></a> \
			</div>'
			+ (post_id 
				? '<h3>' + Dsq.Strings.REPLYING_TO + ' ' + userData.display_name + '</h3>'
				: '<h3>' + Dsq.Strings.ADD_NEW_COMMENT + '</h3>')
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated 
				? _requestUserInfo()
				: _loginOptions() )
			+ '<div id="dsq-form-area' + pid + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-textarea"> \
				<div class="dsq-textarea-wrapper" id="dsq-textarea-wrapper' + pid + '"></div> \
			</div>'
			+ (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated
			? ' \
			<div class="dsq-post-fields"> \
				<form action="." method="GET" onsubmit="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, false); return false;"> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-left"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-name' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (disqus_def_name ? disqus_def_name : (Dsq.jsonData.session.name ? Dsq.jsonData.session.name : Dsq.Strings.NAME + '" class="dsq-placeholder')) + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'name\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'name\')" /></div></td> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-right"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-website' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (Dsq.jsonData.session.url ? Dsq.jsonData.session.url : Dsq.Strings.WEBSITE + ' (' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL.toLowerCase() + ')" class="dsq-placeholder') + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'website\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'website\')" /></div></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-left"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-email' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (disqus_def_email ? disqus_def_email : (Dsq.jsonData.session.email ? Dsq.jsonData.session.email : Dsq.Strings.EMAIL + '" class="dsq-placeholder')) + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'email\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'email\')" /></div></td> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-right"> \
							<div class="dsq-subscribe"> \
								<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.chooseSubscribe(' + post_id + '); return false" class="dsq-subscribe-menu"><span id="dsq-subscribe-select' + pid + '">' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.subscribe_on_post ? Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_TO_ALL_COMMENTS_BY_EMAIL : Dsq.Strings.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS) + '</span> <small>&#9660;</small></a> \
								<ul class="dsq-panel" id="dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid + '"> \
									<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.setSubscribe(2, this, ' + post_id + '); return false">Subscribe to all comments by email</a></li> \
									<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.setSubscribe(0, this, ' + post_id + '); return false">Do not subscribe to comments</a></li> \
								</ul> \
								<input id="dsq-subscribe-on-post' + pid + '" type="hidden" value="' + Dsq.jsonData.request.subscribe_on_post + '" /> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
				</form> \
			</div>'
			: '')
			+ '<div class="dsq-post-footer"> \
				<div class="dsq-sharing-options" ' + (!display_sharing_options ? 'style="display:none;"' : '') + '> \
					<button class="dsq-button-small" onfocus="document.getElementById(\'dsq-post-button' + pid + '\').focus();"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.SHARING_OPTIONS + ' <small>&#9660;</small></span></button> \
					<div class="dsq-panel"> '
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-twitter' + pid + '"'
								  + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-twitter' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Twitter</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook
								&& (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook.enabled === true ||
										(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'facebook'))
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-facebook' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-facebook' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Facebook</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-yahoo' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-yahoo' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Yahoo!</label> \
								</div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-tumblr' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-tumblr' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Tumblr</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-wordpress' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-wordpress' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Wordpress</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype !== undefined
							  && Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-movabletype' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-movabletype' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Movable Type</label> \
							   </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad !== undefined
							  && Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-typepad' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
								  <label for="dsq-sharing-typepad' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' TypePad</label> \
							   </div>'
							: '')
						+ '<div><a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/connections/" target="_blank" class="dsq-configure-options">' + Dsq.Strings.CONFIGURE_OPTIONS + '</a></div>'
					+ '</div> \
				</div>'
				+ '<button class="dsq-button" id="dsq-post-button' + pid + '" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, false)"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.POST_AS + ' '
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username
					? Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username
					: Dsq.Strings.GUEST)
				+ '</span></button>'
				+ (post_id
					? '<button class="dsq-button" id="dsq-cancel-button' + pid + '" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(' + post_id +', this)"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.CANCEL + '</span></button>'
					: '')
			+ '</div>'
			+ '</div>' // end dsq-form-area
		+ '</div> \
		';
		
		return html;
	};




	this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="dsq-append-post-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
		var html;
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		
		html = ' \
		<table> \
			<tr> \
				<td id="dsq-header-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-header-avatar" onmouseover="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')"> \
					<a id="dsq-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-avatar" href="' + userData.url + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.show_avatar
					? '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key].avatar + '" alt="" />'
					: '')
				+ '</a> \
				</td> \
				<td class="dsq-comment-header-meta"> \
		';

		
		return html;
	};
	
	this.postAppendHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var html;
		var parent_display_name = '';
		
		if(_meta.parent_post_id) {

			var _parent_meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[_meta.parent_post_id];

			if (_parent_meta) {
				var parentUserData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_parent_meta.user_key];
				parent_display_name = parentUserData.display_name;
			}
		}

		html = ' \
		<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png" class="dsq-moderator-star" title="Moderator" /> \
		<span class="dsq-comment-header-time"><a href="#comment-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.permalink(' + post_id + ')" title="Permalink">' + (_meta.is_realtime ? Dsq.Strings.JUST_NOW : _meta.date) + '</a></span> '
		+ (_meta.parent_post_id && parent_display_name
			? '<a href="#comment-' + _meta.parent_post_id + '" title="Jump to comment">in reply to ' + parent_display_name + '</a>'
			: '')
		+ '</td> \
		<td id="dsq-like-pts-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-comment-header-likes">'
		+ (_meta.points
			? _meta.points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(_meta.points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this.'
			: '')
		+ '</td> \
		</tr> \
		</table> \
		';
		return html;
	};

	this.preBody = function(post_id) {
		var html = '';
		return html;
	};

	this.postFooter = function(post_id) {
		var html;
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		if(_meta.killed || !_meta.approved) { return ''; }
		
		html = ' \
		<div class="dsq-comment-footer" id="dsq-comment-footer-' + post_id + '"> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer-left">'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator
					? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.moderateOptions(' + post_id+ '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATE + '</a>'
					: '')
				+ '<a href="#" id="dsq-post-report-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-post-report" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + post_id + ', false); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.FLAG + '</a> \
			</div> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer-right">'
				+ (_meta.votable 
					? '<span id="dsq-like-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-like">'
					+ (!_meta.up_voted
						? '<button class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Post.rate(this, ' + post_id + ', 1)" >Like</button>'
						: 'You liked this.&nbsp;&nbsp;')
					+ '</span>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply && !_meta.has_replies && _meta.from_request_user
					? '<button class="dsq-button-small dsq-post-edit" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + ')" >' + Dsq.Strings.EDIT + '</button>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply
					? '<span class="dsq-comment-footer-reply" id="dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(' + post_id +', this)"> \
						<button class="dsq-button-small">' + Dsq.Strings.REPLY + '</button> \
						<button class="dsq-comment-footer-reply-tab">' + Dsq.Strings.REPLY + '</button><span></span> \
					</span>'
					: '')
			+ '</div> \
		</div> \
		';
		
		return html;
	};



	
	this.showRetweets = function(id, limit, element_id /* Optional */) {
		var source, html = '';

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			if (reaction.id === id) {
				source = reaction.retweets;
			}
		}

		if (source) {
			if (limit === 0) {
				limit = source.length;
			}

			for (var j = 0; j < limit; j++) {
				var rt = source[j];
				html += '<a href="' + rt.url + '">' + rt.author_name + '</a>'	+ ((j === (limit - 1)) ? '.' : ', ');
			}
		}

		if (element_id === undefined) {
			return html;
		}

		var element = document.getElementById(element_id);
		element.innerHTML = html;
		return element;
	};

	this.showMoreReactions = function(reactions, has_more, start, limit) {
		var link = document.getElementById('dsq-show-more-reactions');
		var container = link.parentNode;
		container.removeChild(link);

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = reactions[i]; i++) {
			var el = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (el) {
				container.innerHTML += el;
			}
		}

		if (has_more) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = start;
			var l = limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			container.innerHTML += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions" class="dsq-show-more-reactions"><button class="dsq-button-small" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</button></li>';
		}
	};

	this.generateReactionHTML = function(reaction) {
		if (reaction.body === null || reaction.body == '') {
			return;
		}

		if (reaction.author_name === '') {
			reaction.author_name = '&nbsp;';
		}

		if (reaction.url === '') {
			reaction.url = reaction.get_service_url;
		}

		var item = '<li class="dsq-comment dsq-reaction" id="dsq-reaction-' + reaction.id + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-comment-header"> \
			<table> \
			<tr> \
			<td class="dsq-header-avatar"> \
			';

		if (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== '') {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="' + reaction.author_url +'" class="dsq-avatar">';
		}

		if (reaction.avatar_url && reaction.avatar_url !== '') {
			item += '<img src="' + reaction.avatar_url + '"/>';
		} else {

			item += '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/noavatar92.png"/>';
		}

		var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
		item += (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== ''
				? '</a>'
				: '')
			+ '</td>'
			+ '<td><cite class="dsq-comment-cite">' + reaction.author_name + '</cite> <span class="dsq-comment-header-time">' + reaction.date_created + '</span></td>'
			+ '<td class="dsq-comment-header-likes"></td>'
			+ '</tr></table></div>' // end dsq-comment-header
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-header" \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-reaction-header-left">'
							+ '<img class="dsq-service-icon" src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/reactions/services/' + service_icon + '.png" />'
							+ ' From <a class="dsq-service-name" target="_blank" href="' + reaction.url + '">' + reaction.get_service_name + '</a> '
							+ 'via ' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? '<a href="http://backtype.com/">BackType</a>' : '<a href="' + reaction.source_url + '">UberVU</a>')
						+ '</td>'
						+ '<td class="dsq-reaction-header-right">';
			
			if(reaction.retweets) {
				var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
				if (num_retweets > 0) {
					if (num_retweets == 1) {
						item += 'One more retweet from <a href="' + reaction.retweets[0].url + '">'  + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '</a>';
					} else {
						item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');
						item += '<span id="dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '">';
						var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 3) ? 3 : num_retweets;
						item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);
						if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
							item += '</span> <a onclick="Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(' + reaction.id + ', 0, \'dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '\');'
								+ 'this.parentNode.removeChild(this); return false;" href="#">Show all</a>';
						}
					}
				}
			}	
			item += '</td></tr> \
			</table> \
			</div>' // end dsq-reaction-header
			+ '<div class="dsq-comment-body"> \
				<div class="dsq-comment-message">' + reaction.body + '</div>'
			+ '</div> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer"> \
				<div class="dsq-comment-footer-left"> \
				</div>'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator 
					? ' \
					<div class="dsq-comment-footer-right"> \
						<button class="dsq-button-small dsq-hide-reaction" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.hide(' + reaction.id + ')">Hide</button> \
					</div>'
					: '')
			+ '</div>'
		item += '</li>'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
		return item;
	};

	this.reactions = function() {
		var html, reaction;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '';
		for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (item) {
				html += item;
			}
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
			var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			html += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions" class="dsq-show-more-reactions"><button class="dsq-button-small" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</button></li>';
		}

		return '<h3 id="dsq-reactions-title" class="dsq-h3-reactions">Reactions</h3><ul id="dsq-reactions" class="dsq-reactions">' + html + '</ul>';
	};
	
	this._popupGeneric = function(content) {
		return ' \
		<div class="dsq-popup-container"> \
			<table> \
				<tbody> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-tl"></td><td class="dsq-popup-b"></td><td class="dsq-popup-tr"></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-b"></td> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-body"> \
							<div class="dsq-popup-content"> \
								<div class="dsq-popup-title"> \
									<button class="dsq-button-small" style="float:right" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true)">Close</button>' 
									+ content['header'] 
								+ '</div>'
								+ content['body']
							+ '</div> \
							<div class="powered-by"><a href="http://disqus.com/comments/">Powered by <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-logo.png" alt="Disqus Comments" style="margin-bottom:-5px" /></a></div> \
						</td> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-b"></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-bl"></td><td class="dsq-popup-b"></td><td class="dsq-popup-br"></td> \
					</tr> \
				</tbody> \
			</table> \
		</div> \
		';
	};



	
	this.chooseSubscribe = function(post_id) {

		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var menu = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid);
		
		menu.style.display = menu.style.display == 'block' ? 'none' : 'block';
		
	};
	
	this.setSubscribe = function(value, el, post_id) {

		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var input = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-on-post' + pid);
		var select = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-select' + pid);
		var menu = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid);
		
		select.innerHTML = el.innerHTML;
		input.value = value;
		this.chooseSubscribe(post_id);
	};
	
	this.getFormFields = function(post_id) {

		var fields = {};
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var name = Dsq.$('dsq-field-name' + pid);
		var email = Dsq.$('dsq-field-email' + pid);
		var website = Dsq.$('dsq-field-website' + pid);
		var username = Dsq.$('dsq-field-username' + pid);
		var password = Dsq.$('dsq-field-password' + pid);

		fields = {
			'name': name,
			'email': email,
			'website': website,
			'username': username,
			'password': password
		}
		
		return fields;
	}
	
	this.validateFields = function(post_id) {
		
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) { return true; }
		
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		
		var nameField = fields.name;
		var websiteField = fields.website;
		var emailField = fields.email;
		
		websiteField.value = (websiteField.value == Dsq.Templates.placeholder['website']) ? '' : websiteField.value;
		
		var v = [{

			validator: Dsq.Validators.name,
			value: nameField.value
		}, {

			validator: Dsq.Validators.email,
			value: emailField.value
		}, {

			validator: Dsq.Validators.url,
			value: websiteField.value
		}];
		
		return Dsq.Validators.validate(v, function(e) { Dsq.Popup.popModal(e, 'Oops...') } );
	};
	
	this.checkExistingUser = function(post_id) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);		
		Dsq.Popup.loading(post_id);
		
		if (post_id) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].getUserByEmail(fields.email.value);
		} else {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].getUserByEmail(fields.email.value);
		}
	};

	this.validateAuth = function(el_clicked, post_id, auth_choice) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		var email = fields.email ? fields.email.value : '';
		var username = fields.username ? fields.username.value : '';
		var password = fields.password ? fields.password.value : '';
		
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
		
		if (post_id) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].validateAuth(auth_choice, email, username, password);
		} else {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].validateAuth(auth_choice, email, username, password);
		}
	};

	this.lightboxUpdateEmail = function(post_id, new_email) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		fields.email.value = new_email;
	};

	this.lightboxAuthenticate = function(post_id, auth_choice, auth_data) {
		var title, body;
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';

		if(typeof(auth_data) == 'undefined') {
			var auth_data = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		}

		d = auth_data;

		switch(auth_choice) {
			case 'register':
				var suggestedUsername = d.name.value.replace(/[^a-zA-Z0-9-]/g,'').toLowerCase();
			
				title = Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post ? 'Optional:' : 'Required:';
				title += ' Register a <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-profile.png" alt=Disqus Profile" />';

				body = ' \
				<ul class="dsq-lightbox-register-reasons"> \
				<li>Verify your comments</li> \
				<li>Edit and delete comments</li> \
				<li>Manage comments and replies</li> \
				</ul> \
				';

				body += ' \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-fields"> \
					<table> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Email</td> \
							<td><input type="text" value="' + d.email.value + '" onchange="Dsq.Templates.lightboxUpdateEmail(' + post_id + ', this.value)" /><div id="dsq-email-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Username</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-username' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + suggestedUsername + '"/><div id="dsq-username-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Password</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-password' + pid + '" type="password" /><div id="dsq-password-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
					</table> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-switch-auth"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(' + post_id + ',\'login\'); return false">Login instead</a></div> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid + '" class="dsq-lightbox-errors"></div> \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-submit"> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-post"><button class="dsq-button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.validateAuth(this, ' + post_id + ',\'' + auth_choice + '\')">Register and Post comment</button></div>'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
						? '<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-skip"><button class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, true)">Just post as a Guest</button></div>'
						: '')
				+ '</div> \
				';
				break;
			case 'login':
				title = Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post ? 'Optional:' : 'Required:';
				title += ' Login to your <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-profile.png" alt=Disqus Profile" />';
				body = '';
				
				if(d.avatar_url) {
					body += '<div class="dsq-lightbox-recognized"><table><tr>';
					body += '<td><img src="' + d.avatar_url + '" alt="" /></td>';
					body += '<td><span class="dsq-badge ' + (d.verified ? 'dsq-badge-verified' : 'dsq-badge-registered') + '">' + (d.verified ? 'Verified' : 'Registered') + '</span></td>';
					body += '<td>Hey <strong>' + d.display_name + '</strong>, is that you? Login below to claim this comment.';
					body += '</tr></table></div>';
				}

				body += ' \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-fields"> \
					<table> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Username or Email</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-username' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (d.avatar_url ? d.username : '') + '" /></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Password <a href="http://disqus.com/forgot" target="_blank">(cannot log in?)</a></td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-password' + pid + '" type="password" /></td> \
						</tr> \
					</table> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-switch-auth"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(' + post_id + ',\'register\'); return false">Register instead</a></div> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid + '" class="dsq-lightbox-errors"></div> \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-submit"> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-post"><button class="dsq-button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.validateAuth(this, ' + post_id + ',\'' + auth_choice + '\')">Login and Post comment</button></div>'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
						? '<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-skip"><button class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, true)">Just post as a Guest</button></div>'
						: '')
				+ '</div> \
				';
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}
		Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
		Dsq.$('dsq-field-username' + pid).focus();
	};
	
	this.buttonsToRestore = [];
	this.setLoadingButton = function(btn, post_id) {
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		if (btn) {

			var loadingBtn = document.createElement('button');
			loadingBtn.id = btn.id + '-loading';
			loadingBtn.innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-lite.gif" alt="" /> Just a moment...';
			loadingBtn.className = btn.className + ' dsq-post-loading';
			btn.parentNode.appendChild(loadingBtn);
			btn.style.display = 'none';
			var cancelBtn = Dsq.$('dsq-cancel-button' + pid);
			if(cancelBtn) { cancelBtn.style.display = 'none'; this.buttonsToRestore.push(cancelBtn); }
			this.buttonsToRestore.push(btn);
		} else {

			var buttons = this.buttonsToRestore;
			for(var i = 0; i < buttons.length; i++) {
				buttons[i].style.display = 'inline';
				Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$(buttons[i].id + '-loading'));
			}
		}
		
	};

	this.postComment = function(post_id, el_clicked, force, auth_choice) {
		var append_id = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);

		if (Dsq.Templates.validateFields(post_id)) {

			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && !force &&
				((!Dsq.Utils.readCookie('skipped_auth') && !disqus_skip_auth && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled) || !Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post)) {
				Dsq.Templates.checkExistingUser(post_id);
				return false;
			}
			var params = [];
			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
				params.push(fields.name.value,
					fields.email.value,
					fields.website.value);

				if (auth_choice == 'login' || auth_choice == 'register') {
					params.push({
						auth_choice: auth_choice,
						username: fields.username.value,
						password: fields.password.value,
						email: fields.email.value
					});
				} else {
					params.push(null);
				}

				params.push(null /* sharing options */, Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-on-post' + append_id).value);
			} else {
				var service_checked = function(name) {
					var el = Dsq.$('dsq-sharing-' + name + append_id);
					return (el !== null && el.checked === true) ? '1' : '0';
				};
				params.push(null, null, null, null, {
					tw: service_checked('twitter'),
					fb: service_checked('facebook'),
					tr: service_checked('tumblr'),
					wp: service_checked('wordpress'),
					mt: service_checked('movabletype'),
					tp: service_checked('typepad'),
					yh: service_checked('yahoo')
				});
			}

			var frame = Dsq.frames['reply_' + (post_id ? post_id : 0)];
			frame.post.apply(frame, params);

			if (el_clicked) {
				Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
			}
			
			if (force) {
				Dsq.Utils.createCookie('skipped_auth', true);	
			}
			
		} else {
			return false;
		}
	};

	this.editComment = function(el_clicked, post_id) {
		var edited_message = Dsq.$('dsq-edit-textarea-' + post_id).value;

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
		Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].edit(post_id, edited_message);
	};

	this.toggleEdit = function(post_id) {
		var body = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-body-' + post_id);
		var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);

		if (!Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id]) {


			message.style.display = 'none';
			if (Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id)) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id).style.display = 'block';
			} else {

				var edit_area = document.createElement('div');
				edit_area.id = 'dsq-edit-' + post_id;
				edit_area.className = 'dsq-edit dsq-textarea';
				edit_area.innerHTML = ' \
				<div class="dsq-textarea-wrapper"> \
					<textarea class="dsq-edit-textarea" id="dsq-edit-textarea-' + post_id + '">' + message.innerHTML + '</textarea> \
				</div> \
				<div class="dsq-save-edit"> \
					<button onclick="Dsq.Templates.editComment(this, ' + post_id + ')" class="dsq-button-small">Save Edit</button> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-edit-iframe-' + post_id + '" style="display: none"></div> \
				';

				body.appendChild(edit_area);

				if (!Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id]) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$('dsq-edit-iframe-' + post_id), post_id);
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].init();
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].setState(post_id, _meta.depth);
				}
			}
		} else {

			message.style.display = 'block';
			Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id).style.display = 'none';
		}
		
		Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id] = !Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id];
	};
	
	this.edit = function(el, post_id) {

		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
	};

	this.toggleReply = function(post_id, button) {
		
		if(!this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]) {

			if (Dsq.$('dsq-reply-post-' + post_id)) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).style.display = 'block';
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.postBox(post_id);
				var container = Dsq.$('dsq-textarea-wrapper-' + post_id);
				if (!Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id] && container) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(container, post_id);
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].init(function() {

						Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.postBox(post_id, true);
						Dsq.$('dsq-form-area-' + post_id).innerHTML = '';

						var theme = (typeof disqus_frame_theme == 'undefined') ? 'default' : disqus_frame_theme;
						Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-form-area-' + post_id), post_id, {theme: theme});

					});
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].setState(post_id, _meta.depth);
				}
			}
			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-append-post';
			Dsq.$('dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-comment-footer-reply-active';
			
		} else {

			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).style.display = 'none';
			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).className = '';
			Dsq.$('dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-comment-footer-reply';
		}
		
		this.stateReplyToggled[post_id] = !this.stateReplyToggled[post_id];

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie && this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]) {

		}

		Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED, {
			postId: post_id,
			opened: this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]
		});
	};
	
	this.moderateOptions = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		
		if(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator && !Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator) { return false; }

		var html;
		
		html = ' \
		<div class="dsq-moderate-options"> \
		<table>'
		+ (_meta.email ? '<tr><td>Email</td><td>' + _meta.email + '</td></tr>' : '')
		+ (_meta.ip ? '<tr><td>IP address</td><td>' + _meta.ip + '</td></tr>' : '')
		+ '<tr> \
			<td>Actions</td> \
			<td><ul>'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.moderator_can_edit
				? '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Edit Comment</a></li>'
				: '')
			+ '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.removePost(' + post_id + ', 1); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Delete Comment</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.reportSpam(' + post_id + '); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Mark Spam</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.blacklist(' + post_id + '); return false">Block User</a></li> \
			</ul></td> \
			</table> \
		</div> \
		';
		
		html += '<p>Go to the full <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/moderate/" target="_blank">moderate panel</a> for more options.</p>';
		
		return Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, 'Moderate Options', post_id);
	};
	
	this.placeholder = {
		'class': 'dsq-placeholder',
		'name': Dsq.Strings.NAME,
		'email': Dsq.Strings.EMAIL,
		'website': Dsq.Strings.WEBSITE + ' (' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL.toLowerCase() + ')'
	};
	
	this.handlePlaceholder = function(evt, el, key) {
		var placeholder = Dsq.Templates.placeholder[key];
		var className = Dsq.Templates.placeholder['class'];
		
		switch(evt.type) {
			case 'focus':
				if(el.value == placeholder) {
					el.value = '';
					el.className = '';
				}
				break;

			case 'blur':
				if(el.value == '') {
					el.value = placeholder;
					el.className = className;
				}
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}
	};
	
	this.paginate = function(page, el_clicked) {

		var extra_params = '';

		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&per_page=' + disqus_per_page;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_sort != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&sort=' + disqus_sort;
		}

		Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML += '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
		
		if(el_clicked) {
			Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked);
		}
		
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'monday_open_thread_it8217s_a_new_week_61'
			+ '&p='		+ page
			+ extra_params);
	};
	
	
	this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {


		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
			if(vote == 1) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-like-' + id).innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
			}
			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/vote.js'
				+ '?post_id='    + id
				+ '&vote='        + vote);
		} else {
			Dsq.Popup.login('To rate, please log in');
		}
	};

	this.voted = function(post_id, points, vote) {

		Dsq.$('dsq-like-pts-' + post_id).innerHTML = points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this.';

		if(vote) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-like-' + post_id).innerHTML = 'You liked this.&nbsp;&nbsp;';
		}
	};




	this.postComment_onSuccess = function(response, parent_post_id, post_id) {
		var approved = response.message.post_meta.approved;

		if (parent_post_id) {
			Dsq.Post.toggleReply(parent_post_id);
		}

		Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
		
		if (approved) {
			Dsq.Post.incrementPostCount();
			Dsq.Post.outlineComment(post_id);
		} else {			
			var unapproved_msg = 'Thanks for posting!\
	 Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.\
			';
			Dsq.Popup.popModal(unapproved_msg, 'Comment awaiting approval', post_id);
		}

		var sharing_results = response.message.sharing_results;
		var sharing_errors = '';
		for (var service in sharing_results) {
			if (sharing_results.hasOwnProperty(service) === true) {
				if (sharing_results[service].error === true) {
					sharing_errors += service + ', ';
				}
			}
		}

		if (sharing_results.facebook && sharing_results.facebook.callback) {
			FB.ensureInit(function() {
				FB.Connect.streamPublish('', sharing_results.facebook.attachment);
			});
		}

		if (sharing_errors !== '') {
			var message = 'Your comment was posted, but there were errors sharing with the following connections: ';
			message += sharing_errors.replace(/,\s$/, '');
			message += '<p><a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/connections" target="_blank">Configure your connections here</a></p>'
			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, 'Sharing options');
		}

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	this.postComment_onFailure = function(response, parent_post_id, post_id) {

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};
};




// TODO: It might be faster to use string methods to find all <li (...) </li> blocks and pass to Dsq.PostHandler manually.
Dsq.CommentsHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_post = Dsq.Templates.prependPost(post_id);
	var append_post = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(post_id);

	content = content.replace(Dsq.POST_RE, Dsq.PostHandler);
	Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter++;
	head = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContainer(post_id, head);
	return prepend_post + head + content + tail + append_post;
};

Dsq.PostHandler = function(str, h_head, post_id, h_content, h_tail, b_head, b_content, b_tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_header = Dsq.Templates.postPrependHeader(post_id);
	var append_header = Dsq.Templates.postAppendHeader(post_id);
	var prepend_body = Dsq.Templates.preBody(post_id);
	var append_body = Dsq.Templates.postBody(post_id);
	var append_footer = Dsq.Templates.postFooter(post_id);

	b_content = b_content.replace(Dsq.POST_BODY_RE, Dsq.PostBodyHandler);
	return h_head + prepend_header + h_content + append_header + h_tail + b_head + prepend_body + b_content + append_body + b_tail + append_footer;
};

Dsq.PostBodyHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	content = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContent(post_id, content);
	return head + content + tail;
};

Dsq.MediaPostHandler = function(str, args, offset, s) {
	args = args.split(' ');
	if(args[0] == 'seesmic') {
		return '<br />' + Dsq.Templates.mediaSeesmic(args[1], args[2]);
	}
	return '';
};


/**
 * Shorcuts
 */
Dsq.$ = function(element) { return document.getElementById(element); };
Dsq.$b = document.body || document.getElementsByTagName('body')[0];


/**
 * Dsq.Debug: Logging functions.
 */

Dsq.Debug = new function() {this.log=function(s){};this.profile=function(f){if(typeof f == 'function')return f();else return eval(f);};};


/**
 * Dsq.Urls: URL paths
 */
Dsq.Urls = new function() {
	this.LOGIN = '/profile/login/';
	this.LOGOUT = '/logout/';
	this.REPLY = 'http://jackandjillpolitics.disqus.com/monday_open_thread_it8217s_a_new_week_61/reply.html';
	this.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE = '/AnonymousUser/';
	this.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR = 'http://media.disqus.com/images/noavatar92.png';
};
// Dsq.Urls

/**
 * Dsq.Validators: Validation for form fields
 */
Dsq.Validators = new function() {
	this.VALID_EMAIL_RE = /^[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*\@(([a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*)+\.[a-z]{2,}|([0-9]+\.){3}[0-9]+)$/i;
	this.name = function(name) {
		var error = false;

		if(typeof Dsq.Templates.placeholder !== 'undefined' &&
		   name == Dsq.Templates.placeholder.name) {
			error = true;
		}
		if(name.length <= 1) {
			error = true;
		}

		if(error) {
			return "Please enter a name to comment.";
		} else {
			return true;
		}
	};
	this.email = function(addr) {
		if(Dsq.Validators.VALID_EMAIL_RE.test(addr)) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please enter a valid email to comment.";
		}
	};
	this.url = function(addr) {
		if(!addr || addr.indexOf('.') != -1) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please check your website URL (this field is optional).";
		}
	};

	this.validate = function(bulk_validation, failure_callback) {
		failure_callback = failure_callback || function(e){ alert(e); };

		for(var i = 0; i < bulk_validation.length; i++) {
			v = bulk_validation[i];
			ret = v.validator(v.value);
			if(ret !== true) {
				failure_callback(ret);
				return false;
			}
		}
		return true;
	};
};

/**
 * Dsq.Utils: Generic utility functions.
 */
Dsq.Utils = new function() {
	this.ie = /msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent);
	this.ie7 = (document.all && !window.opera && window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true : false;
	this.ie6 = (!window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true: false;
	this.webkit = navigator.userAgent.indexOf('AppleWebKit/') >= 0;
	this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache = {};
	this._styleSheet = null;

	this.gebiFromElement = function(el, id, tag) {
		// This only method only helps IE.
		if(!this.ie) {
			return Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var cacheKey = el.id + '-' + tag;
			tag = tag || 'div';
			if(typeof this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] != 'undefined') {
				collection = this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey];
			} else {
				collection = el.getElementsByTagName(tag);
				this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] = collection;
			}

			for(var i = 0; i < collection.length; i++) {
				if(collection[i].id == id) {
					return collection[i];
				}
			}
			return null;
		}
	};

	this.execOnReady = function(func) {
		var node = document.createElement('document:ready');
		try {
			node.doScroll('left');
			func();
			node = null;
		} catch(err) {
			setTimeout(function() { Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(func); }, 10);
		}
	};


	// Courtesy of http://www.quirksmode.org/js/cookies.html
	this.createCookie = function(name,value,days) {
		if (days) {
			var date = new Date();
			date.setTime(date.getTime()+(days*24*60*60*1000));
			var expires = "; expires="+date.toGMTString();
		}
		else var expires = "";
		document.cookie = name+"="+value+expires+"; path=/";
	};

	this.readCookie = function(name) {
		var nameEQ = name + "=";
		var ca = document.cookie.split(';');
		for(var i=0;i < ca.length;i++) {
			var c = ca[i];
			while (c.charAt(0)==' ') c = c.substring(1,c.length);
			if (c.indexOf(nameEQ) == 0) return c.substring(nameEQ.length,c.length);
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.eraseCookie = function(name) {
		Dsq.Utils.createCookie(name,"",-1);
	};

	this.deleteNode = function(node) {
		if(node) {
			this.deleteChildren(node);
			if(typeof node.outerHTML != 'undefined') { node.outerHTML = ''; }
			else if(node.parentNode) { node.parentNode.removeChild(node); }
			delete node;
		}
	};

	this.deleteChildren = function(node) {
		if(node) {
			for(var x = node.childNodes.length-1; x >= 0; x--) {
				var childNode = node.childNodes[x];
				if(childNode.hasChildNodes()) { this.deleteChildren(childNode); }
				if(typeof childNode.outerHTML != 'undefined') { childNode.outerHTML = ''; }
				else node.removeChild(childNode);
				delete childNode;
			}
		}
	};

	this.findPos = function(obj) {
		var curleft = 0;
		var curtop = 0;
		if (obj.offsetParent) {
			do {
				curleft += obj.offsetLeft;
				curtop += obj.offsetTop;
			} while (obj = obj.offsetParent);
		}
		return [curleft,curtop];
	};

	this.getWindowSize = function() {
		var windowWidth = -1;
		var windowHeight = -1;

		if(typeof(window.innerWidth) == 'number') { //Non-IE
			windowWidth = window.innerWidth;
			windowHeight = window.innerHeight;
		} else if(document.documentElement) { // IE 6+ in 'standards compliant mode'
			windowWidth = document.documentElement.clientWidth || document.body.clientWidth;
			windowHeight = document.documentElement.clientHeight || document.body.clientHeight;
		}

		return [windowWidth, windowHeight];
	}

	this.getScrollPos = function() {
		var scrollWidth, scrollTop;

		if(document.documentElement && (document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.documentElement.scrollWidth)) {
			scrollWidth = document.documentElement.scrollWidth;
			// IE is weird here.  If no doctype is provided, document.body.scrollTop is 0,
			// otherwise document.documentElement.scrollTop is 0.
			scrollTop = document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.body.scrollTop;
		} else if(document.body.scrollTop && document.body.scrollWidth) {
			scrollWidth = document.body.scrollWidth;
			scrollTop = document.body.scrollTop;
		}

		return [scrollWidth, scrollTop];
	}

	this.addEventListener = function(instance, eventName, listener) {
		var listenerFn = listener;
		if (instance.addEventListener) {
			instance.addEventListener(eventName, listenerFn, false);
		} else if (instance.attachEvent) {
			listenerFn = function() {
				listener(window.event);
			};
			instance.attachEvent("on" + eventName, listenerFn);
		} else {
			throw new Error("Event registration not supported");
		}
		return {
			instance: instance,
			name: eventName,
			listener: listenerFn
		};
	};

	this.removeEventListener = function(event) {
		var instance = event.instance;
		if (instance.removeEventListener) {
			instance.removeEventListener(event.name, event.listener, false);
		} else if (instance.detachEvent) {
			instance.detachEvent("on" + event.name, event.listener);
		}
	};

	this.fixIframesIE = function(id) {
		var disqusThread = Dsq.$(disqus_container_id);
		var iframes = disqusThread.getElementsByTagName('iframe');

		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-content');
		}

		for(i = 0; i < iframes.length; i++) {
			if (container) {
				iframes[i].style.width = container.offsetWidth;
			}
		}
	};

	this.getElementsByClassName = function(oElm, strTagName, strClassName) {
	/* Credit: Jonathan Snook [http://www.snook.ca/jonathan], Robert Nyman [http://www.robertnyman.com] */
		var arrElements = (strTagName == "*" && oElm.all)? oElm.all : oElm.getElementsByTagName(strTagName);
		var arrReturnElements = new Array();
		strClassName = strClassName.replace(/\-/g, "\\-");
		var oRegExp = new RegExp("(^|\\s)" + strClassName + "(\\s|$)");
		var oElement;
		for(var i = 0; i < arrElements.length; i++) {
			oElement = arrElements[i];
			if(oRegExp.test(oElement.className)) {
				arrReturnElements.push(oElement);
			}
		}
		return (arrReturnElements);
	};

	this.postToUrl = function(url, post_data, opt_redirect) {
		var form = document.createElement('form');
		var iframe_container = document.createElement('div');
		var id = 'dsq-temp-iframe-' + (new Date()).getTime();

		form.method = 'POST';
		form.action = url;
		if (!opt_redirect) {
			form.target = id;
		}
		iframe_container.innerHTML = '<iframe style="display:none" name="' + id + '" id="' + id + '"></iframe>';

		for(var key in post_data) {
			if(post_data.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var input = document.createElement('input');
				input.name = key;
				input.type = 'hidden';
				input.value = post_data[key];

				form.appendChild(input);
			}
		}

		Dsq.$b.appendChild(iframe_container);
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(form);
		form.submit();
	};

	// Strips integer id from id of element in the form ('some-id-###')
	this.extractId = function(e) {
		var chunks = e.id.split('-');
		if(chunks.length <= 1) {
			return 0;
		} else {
			return parseInt(chunks[chunks.length-1]);
		}
	};

	this.getStyle = function(el, styleProp) {
		if(el.currentStyle) {
			var y = el.currentStyle[styleProp];
		} else if(window.getComputedStyle) {
			var y = document.defaultView.getComputedStyle(el, null).getPropertyValue(styleProp);
		}

		if(y == 'transparent' || y == '') {
			this.getStyle(el.parentNode, styleProp);
		} else {
			return y;
		}
	};

	this.execScript = function(url, append_qs, container) {
		var script = document.createElement('script');
		append_qs = typeof append_qs == 'undefined' ? true : append_qs;
		container = container || Dsq.container;

		if(append_qs) {
			var j = (url.indexOf('?') >= 0) ? '&' : '?';
			url += j + (new Date()).getTime();
		}
		script.type = 'text/javascript';
		script.charset = 'UTF-8';
		script.src = url;
		container.appendChild(script);
		return script;
	};

	this.pluralize = function(num, singular, plural) {
		return (num != 1) ? plural || 's' : singular || '';
	};

	this.getRequestParams = function(queryString /* optional */) {
		var pairs, tuple;
		var params = {};

		queryString = queryString || window.location.search.substring(1);
		pairs = queryString.split('&');

		for (var i = 0, pair; pair = pairs[i]; i++) {
			tuple = pair.split('=');
			params[tuple[0]] = (tuple[1] || true);
		}

		return params;
	};

	this.addCssRule = function(selector, styleText, index) {
		var stylesheet;
		index = index || 0;

		if(!this._styleSheet) {
			var styleEl = document.createElement('style');
			document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(styleEl);
			this._styleSheet = styleEl.sheet;
			if(!this._styleSheet) {
				// IE does not like our newly created stylesheet.
				this._styleSheet = document.styleSheets[document.styleSheets.length-1];
			}
		}
		stylesheet = this._styleSheet;

		if(stylesheet.insertRule) {
			var ruleText = selector + ' { ' + styleText + ' }';
			if(index == -1) {
				index = stylesheet.cssRules.length;
			}
			stylesheet.insertRule(ruleText, index);
		} else if(stylesheet.addRule) {
			stylesheet.addRule(selector, styleText, index);
		}
	};

	this.forEachIn = function(obj, callback) {
		for(var key in obj) {
			if(obj.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				callback(key, obj[key]);
			}
		}
	};

	this._interpolateGlobalContext = {
		// values that get used a lot and are global to the request
		'profile_url': Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE,

		'disqus_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url,
		'media_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.media_url,
		'request_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.username,
		'request_display_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username,
		'forum_name': Dsq.jsonData.forum.name
	};

	this.renderFromContextStack = function(key, contexts) {
		// Returns the first instance of `key` in the array of objects `contexts` or else ''
		for (var i=0; i<contexts.length; i++) {
			if (contexts[i][key] !== undefined) {
				return String(contexts[i][key]);
			}
		}
		throw new Error('key ' + key + ' not found in context');
	};

	var that = this;
	this.interpolate = function(fmt, opt_localContext) {
		// Interpolate `fmt` named-format string with an assumed global context.
		// Based on `interpolate` in django.views.i18n
		var contextStack = [opt_localContext || {}, that._interpolateGlobalContext];
		return fmt.replace(/%\(\w+\)s/g, function(match){
			return that.renderFromContextStack(match.slice(2,-2), contextStack);
		});
	};

	this.stripTags = function(s) {
		// Removes HTML tags from `s`
		return s.replace(/(<([^>]+)>)/g,"");

	};

	this.assert = function(b) {
		if (!b) {
			throw new Error('Assertion error.');
		}
	};

};
// Dsq.Utils

/**
 * Dsq.Popup: Popup helper functions.
 */
Dsq.Popup = new function() {
	this.timeHide = new Array();
	this.timeShow = new Array();
	this.activePopup = {};
	this.profileCache = {};
	this.statusCache = {};

	this.showTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the hide timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeHide[post_id]);

		// start the timer
		if(!Dsq.Popup.profileIsOn && !Dsq.Thread.adminIsOn) {
			this.timeShow[post_id] = setTimeout("Dsq.Popup.popProfile(\"" + post_id + "\")", 400);
		}
	};

	this.hideTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the show timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeShow[post_id]);
	};

	this.updateProfile = function(username) {
		// Callback from /embed/profile.js
		if (this.statusCache[username]) {
			var statusEl = Dsq.$('dsq-profile-status-' + username);
			statusEl.innerHTML = this.statusCache[username];
			statusEl.style.display = 'block';
		}

		if (this.profileCache[username]) {
			var _cache = this.profileCache[username];

			var _genhtml = function(text) { return '<span><big>' + text + '</big></span>'; };
			var _no_comments = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_COMMENTS(_cache.comments_count));
			var _no_likes = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_LIKES(_cache.likes_count));
			var _no_points = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_POINTS(_cache.points));

			var statsEl = Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + username);
			statsEl.innerHTML = '';

			if (Dsq.jsonData.users[username].registered) {
				statsEl.innerHTML = _no_comments + _no_likes;
			}
			statsEl.innerHTML += _no_points;

			var activeSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.active_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.active_sites[i];
				activeSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (activeSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = activeSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = 'This site.';
			}

			var moderatedSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.moderated_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.moderated_sites[i];
				moderatedSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (moderatedSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + username).innerHTML = moderatedSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + username).innerHTML = '';
			}
		}

		// Reposition popup after full HTML is rendered
		if(Dsq.Popup.activePopup && Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el) {
			Dsq.Popup.initPopup(Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.type);
		}

	};

	this.showCookieMsgs = function() {
		var title = '';
		var message = '';
		var numAlerts = 0;

		Dsq.Utils.forEachIn(Dsq.jsonData.cookie_messages, function(k, v) {
			if (!v) return;

			switch(k) {
				// Cookie: Twitter
				case 'post_twitter':
					if (v === 'error') {
						title = 'Twitter Error!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-error">Oops, we couldn\'t tweet this comment. Please check your <a href="http://disqus.com/account/services">account settings</a>.</li>';
					} else {
						var _msg = v.split(':');
						title = 'Tweeted!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-success">Your comment was successfully tweeted. <a href="http://twitter.com/' + _msg[0] + '/status/' + _msg[1] + '">Click here to view the tweet</a>.</li>';
					}
					break;
				// Cookie: Unapproved Post
				case 'post_not_approved':
					title = 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-not-approved">Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.</li>';
					break;
				// Cookie: Profile Found
				case 'post_has_profile':
					title = 'Use your existing commenter profile';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-has-profile">You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a></li>';
					break;
				case 'user_created':
					var _data = v.split(':');
					title = 'Profile created!';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-user-created">You have just created a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, the best way to claim, manage, and track your comments all over the web. \
					<br /><br />A confirmation is being sent to <strong>' + _data[1] + '</strong>. Please check for this email in order to verify your profile. \
					<ul class="dsq-list-tick"> \
						<li>Your username is <strong>' + _data[0] +'</strong>. <a href="http://disqus.com/people/' + _data[0] + '/" target="_blank">Click here to view your public profile</a>.</li> \
						<li>Be sure to set your profile picture, as well as connect your <span class="dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> and <span class="dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> accounts. <a href="http://disqus.com/account/" target="_blank">Click here for account settings</a>.</li> \
					</ul> \
					</li>'
					break;
				default:
					break;
			}
			numAlerts++;
		});

		if(numAlerts > 1) {
			message = '<ul class="dsq-list-bluebullet">' + message;
			message += '</ul>';
			title = 'Thanks for posting!';
		}
		if(numAlerts > 0) {
			if(typeof(disqus_cookie_msgs) == 'function') {
				disqus_cookie_msgs(message, title);
			} else {
				Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
			}
		}
	};

	this.helpBadges = function(post_id) {
		var html = ' \
			<ul class="dsq-popup-help"> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile with a confirmed email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, but has not yet confirmed his or her email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span> is not logged in with any account and has not claimed his or her comments.</li> \
				<li class="dsq-help-otheraccts">Other accounts</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> is using his or her Facebook profile via Facebook Connect.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> is using his or her Twitter profile via Twitter Sign-in.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-openid">OpenID</span> is using his or her OpenID.</li> \
			</ul> \
		';

		this.popModal(html, 'Help: Types of Commenters', post_id);
		return;
	};

	this.permalink = function(post_id) {
		var header = 'Link to this comment';
		var body = '<strong>You are anchored to</strong>:<br />' + document.location.protocol + '//' + document.location.host + document.location.pathname + document.location.search + '#comment-' + post_id;

		this.popModal(body, header, post_id);
	};

	this.login = function(header, body) {
		var h = header || 'Login or Register';
		var b = body || '';
		b += Dsq.Templates.frameLogin({id: 'dsq-popup-login'});
		b += '</iframe>'; // HACK: Sometimes there is something funky with the IFRAME SRC that causes no end tag
		this.popModal(b, h, null, true, 'dsq-popup-login');
	};

	this.blacklist = function(id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		var title = 'Add to Blacklist';
		var message = ' \
		Adding this person to the blacklist will block him or her from commenting on this site. Check the following types that you would like to add to the blacklist:'
		+ (userData['registered'] ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-username" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-username"><strong>Username</strong>: ' + userData['username'] + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ (_meta.email ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-email" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-email"><strong>Email address</strong>: ' + _meta.email + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ '<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
			<input id="dsq-blacklist-ip" type="checkbox" onclick="Dsq.$(\'dsq-blacklist-ip-warning\').style.display=\'block\'"> \
			<label for="dsq-blacklist-ip"><strong>IP address</strong>: ' + _meta.ip + '</label> \
		</div> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p id="dsq-blacklist-ip-warning" style="display:none">	\
				Note: Blocking this person\'s IP address may also unintentionally prevent others, who share his/her IP address, from commenting on this site. \
				This may include people who are sharing the same computer, living in the same house, or using the same Internet provider. Only block an IP address as a last resort. \
			</p> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p style="text-align:center"><button onclick="Dsq.Post.blockUser(' + id + '); this.disabled=true; this.innerHTML=\'Just one moment...\'">Add to Blacklist</button></p> \
		';

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
	};

	this.remoteAccountSettings = function() {
		var body = '';
		// Set up IFrame.
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/_auth/embed/remote_settings/';
		var attributes = {id: 'dsq-popup-account-settings'};
		if (typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}

		body = Dsq.Templates._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
		this.popModal(body, 'Account Settings', null, true, 'dsq-popup-account-settings');
	};

	this.popModal = function(message, title, post_id, use_listener, extra_classes) {
		var container = document.createElement('div');
		var header, body;

		Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);

		if(typeof(title) == 'undefined') { title = ''; }
		if(typeof(use_listener) == 'undefined') { use_listener = true; }

		if(post_id) {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message-' + post_id;
		} else {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message';
		}

		header = title;
		body = message;

		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupModal(header, body);
		Dsq.Popup.initPopup(container, post_id, 'message', extra_classes);
		if(use_listener) {
			Dsq.Popup.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', Dsq.Popup._closePopup);
		}
	};

	this.popAlert = this.popModal;

	this.loading = function(post_id) {
		var title = Dsq.Strings.JUST_A_MOMENT;
		var body = '<div style="text-align:center; padding: 5px 0 10px 0"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif" alt="" /></div>'
		Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
	};

	this.lightbox = function(message, title, post_id) {
		// Wraps Dsq.Popup.popModal

		var overlay = document.createElement('div');
		overlay.id = 'dsq-overlay';
		overlay.className = 'dsq-overlay';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(overlay);
		
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, post_id, false, 'dsq-lightbox');
	};

	this.popProfile = function(post_id, userKey) {
		var post = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id];
		if (post && post.has_been_anonymized) {
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('This message was anonymized by its previous owner.', 'Anonymized', post_id);
			return;
		}

		if(post_id) {
			userKey = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id].user_key;	
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][userKey];
		var elId = 'dsq-popup-profile-' + userKey;
		var container = document.createElement('div');

		if(this.activePopup.el) {
			this._closePopup(null, true);
			if(this.activePopup.linkClicked) {
				this.activePopup.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		container.id = elId;
		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupProfile(userKey);

		this.initPopup(container, post_id, 'profile');
		this.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._closePopup);

		if(!this.profileCache[userKey]) {
			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/embed/profile.js'
				+ '?username=' + userKey
				+ '&anon=' + (userData['registered'] ? 0 : 1)
				+ '&f=' + Dsq.jsonData['request'].forum);
		} else {
			this.updateProfile(userKey);
		}
	};

	this._closePopup = function(e, force) {
		var activePopup = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el;
		var id = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id;
		var link = 'dsq-avatar-' + id; // HACK: Specific to profile toggle target

		// HACK: This event should be gone if there is no active popup.
		if(!activePopup) {
			return;
		}
		if(force || !Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, activePopup.id)) {
			// TODO: This is breaking iE?
			if(Dsq.Popup.popupListener) {
				Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Popup.popupListener);
			}
			
			// Kill overlay
			var overlay = Dsq.$('dsq-overlay');
			if(overlay) { Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(overlay); }
			
			try {
				Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(activePopup);
			} catch(e) {
				// HACK: IE6 throws an error when using deleteNode() with a node containing a <table> in the html.
				activePopup.parentNode.removeChild(activePopup);
			}
			Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {};
		}

		if(!force && Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Popup.activePopup.linkClicked = true;
		}

	};

	this.initPopup = function(popup, post_id, type, extra_classes) {
		popup.className = 'dsq-popup dsq-popup-' + type + ' ' + (extra_classes ? extra_classes : '');
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6 || Dsq.Utils.ie7) {
			// HACK: We can't modify the body before it's ready, so we need
			//       to use an IE-safe "DOMReady" workaround before loading
			//       our popup.
			Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(function() {Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup); });
		} else {
			Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup);
		}

		popup.style.display = 'block';

		var xPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[0] - popup.offsetWidth) / 2;
		var yPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[1] - popup.offsetHeight) / 2;

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) {
			yPos += Dsq.Utils.getScrollPos()[1];
		}

		popup.style.left = xPos + 'px';
		popup.style.top = yPos + 'px';

		Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {
			'el' : popup,
			'id' : post_id,
			'type': type,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};
	};

	this.isClicked = function(e, id) {
		var t = e.target || e.srcElement;
		while(t && t.parentNode) {
			if(t.id == id) {
				return true;
			}

			t = t.parentNode;
		}
		return false;
	};
};
// Dsq.Popup

/**
 * Dsq.Templates
 */
Dsq.Templates = new function() {
	/*
	 * Counter keeping track of the number of posts iterated over.
	 */
	this.postLoopCounter = 0;
	this.filters = {};
	this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-post-add';
	this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-post-add';

	this.registerTemplate = function(name, func) {
		this['$$_' + name] = func;

		if(typeof DsqLocal.Filters != 'undefined'
		&& typeof DsqLocal.Filters[name] == 'function') {
			// Push filters to this.filters to unify code.
			this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
			this.filters[name].push(DsqLocal.Filters[name]);
		}

		this[name] = function() {
			var ret;

			if(typeof DsqLocal.Templates != 'undefined'
			&& typeof DsqLocal.Templates[name] == 'function') {
				ret = DsqLocal.Templates[name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(ret === undefined) {
				ret = this['$$_' + name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(this.filters[name]) {
				var args = [ret];

				args.push.apply(args, arguments);
				for(var i = 0; i < this.filters[name].length; i++) {
					ret = this.filters[name][i].apply(this, args);
				}
			}

			return ret;
		};
	};

	this.registerFilter = function(name, func) {
		this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
		this.filters[name].push(func);
	};

	/**
	 * Dsq.Templates.Filters
	 */
	this.Filters = new function() {
		this.commentContainer = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			var classes = [];
			if(Dsq.jsonData.request.page > 1) {
				classes.push('dsq-append');
			}

			//
			// Extra classes used for custom themes
			//

			if(_meta.depth) {
				classes.push('dsq-comment-child', 'dsq-depth-' + _meta.depth, 'dsq-parent-is-' + _meta.parent_post_id);
			}


			//

			if(_meta.author_is_creator) {
				// TODO: We need to deprecate the "special" class since it is not properly prefixed.
				classes.push('special', 'dsq-special');
			}
			if(_meta.author_is_moderator) {
				classes.push('dsq-moderator');
			}
			classes.push(['dsq-odd', 'dsq-even'][Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter % 2]);

			s = s.substring(0, s.lastIndexOf('>'));
			return s + ' class="dsq-comment ' + classes.join(' ') + '" style="margin-left:' + _meta.depth*30 + 'px">';
		};

		this.commentContent = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			if (_meta.killed) {
				return '<em>Comment removed.</em>';
			} else if (!_meta.approved) {
				return '<em>This comment was flagged for review.</em>';
			}

			s = s.replace(Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE, Dsq.MediaPostHandler);
			return s;
		};
	};

	//
	// Thread
	//
	// TODO: These need to be stripped of all Django template tags.

	this.authPost = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {
			return '';
		}
		var result = [];
		result = result.concat([
				'<div id="dsq-auth"',
						Dsq.jsonData.integration.reply_position ? 'class="dsq-auth-bottom"' : '',
						'>',
					'<div class="dsq-by">',
						'<a href="http://disqus.com" target="_blank">',
							(Dsq.jsonData.integration.disqus_logo ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/by-disqus.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">') :
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/dsq-button-120x19.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">')
							),
						'</a>',
					'</div>',
					'<div class="dsq-auth-header">',
						'<h3 id="dsq-add-new-comment" class="dsq-h3-addcomment">',
								Dsq.Strings.ADD_NEW_COMMENT,
						'</h3>',
						'<div id="dsq-login">',
						(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
								? '<p class="dsq-login-message" id="dsq-login-message">You are commenting as a <a class="dsq-help" title="Click for more information" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Guest</a>. You may select one to log into:</p>'
								: '')
		]);
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			result = result.concat([
							Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
								'<a id="dsq-login-toggle" href="%(disqus_url)s%(login_url)s?next=article:%(thread_id)s" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false"><img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsq-profile-btn.png" title="%(log_into)s" alt="%(log_into)s"/></a>',
								{login_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGIN, thread_id: Dsq.jsonData.thread.id, log_into: Dsq.Strings.LOG_INTO_DISQUS}
								),
							'&nbsp; ',
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ?
								'<div id="dsq-fbc-login" onlogin="DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin()" size="medium" background="light" length="short" style="display:inline; margin-right:7px"></div>' :
								''
							),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-twitter-login" class="dsq-twitter-login" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect();" style="display:inline; cursor: pointer"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/twitter-signin-short.png" style="margin-right:7px" /></div>', {}) : ''),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-openid-login" class="dsq-openid-login" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.requestURL();" style="display:inline; cursor:pointer;"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/openid-login-button.png"/></div>', {}
								) : '')
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
						'</div>', // dsq-login
					'</div>', // dsq-auth-header
					'<div id="dsq-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated" ',
						Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated ? 'style="display:block"' : '',
						'>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-pic">',
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">' +
																			'<img class="dsq-post-avatar" src="%(avatar_url)s" alt="" /></a>',
																			{avatar_url: Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR,
																			url: (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
																					 ? Dsq.jsonData.request.url
																					 : Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE) }),
						'</div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>', {url:Dsq.jsonData.request.url})
										  )
										: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(profile_url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>')
											)
									),
								'</li>',
								'<li class="logout">',
									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsqicon12.png" alt="%(logged_in_as)s"/>&nbsp',
											{logged_in_as: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username)})
										: ''),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="%(logout_from_disqus)s">',
											{logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN, logout_from_disqus: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('DISQUS')})
										: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'twitter')
												? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using Twitter (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
												 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
												: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'openid')
													 ? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using OpenID (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
													 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
													 : ''
													)
											)
									),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote ? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('<span class="logo-disqus">DISQUS</span>') : ''),
									'</a>',
								'</li>',
							'</ul>',
						'</div>',
					'</div>'
		]);
		if (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect) {
			result = result.concat([
					'<div id="dsq-fbc-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated">',
						'<div id="dsq-fbc-profilepic" class="dsq-authenticated-pic" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.ProfilePic" size="square" facebook-logo="true"></div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									'Logged in as <span id="dsq-fbc-name" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.Name" linked="true" useyou="false"></span>',
								'</li>',
								'<li class="logout">using Facebook Connect <a href="#" onclick="javascript:DisqusFbcParentController.logout();return false;">(Logout)</a></li>',
							'</ul>',
						'</div>',
					'</div>'
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
				'</div>', // dsq-auth
				'<div id="dsq-toolbar-items">',
				'</div>'
		]);
		result = result.concat([
					//
					//
					//
				((!Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post && !Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) ?
					// Needs to be translated:
					('<p id="dsq-no-anon-msg">Required: Please log into <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> ' +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ? 'or connect with Facebook ' : '') +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ? 'or sign in with Twitter ' : '') +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? 'or sign in using OpenID ' : '') +
					Dsq.Utils.interpolate('to comment on <strong>%(forum_name)s</strong>.</p>')) :
					''
				),
				'<div id="dsq-post-add"></div>',
				'<div style="margin:10px 0">',
				((Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media) ?
						'<a href="#" id="dsq-media-link" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, false, \'media\'); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.USE_MEDIA + ' <small>&#9660;</small></a>' :
						''),
				'</div>'
		]);
		return result.join('');
	};


	this.header = function() {

		var html = '\<h3 id="dsq-comments-count" class="dsq-h3-commentcount">\
	 <span id="dsq-num-posts">130</span> Comments\
	 &nbsp;\
	 <span class="dsq-item-feed">\
	 <a href="http://jackandjillpolitics.disqus.com/monday_open_thread_it8217s_a_new_week_61/latest.rss"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/bullet-feed.png"></a>\
	 </span>\
	 </h3>\
	 <div id="dsq-options" style="margin:15px 0">\
	 <span class="dsq-item-sort">\
	 Sort by\
	 <select id="dsq-sort-select" onchange="Dsq.Thread.sortBy(this.value);">\
	 <option value="hot" selected="selected">Popular now</option>\
	 <option value="best" >Best Rating</option>\
	 <option value="newest" >Newest first</option>\
	 <option value="oldest" >Oldest first</option>\
	 </select>\
	 &nbsp;\
	 </span>\
	 <span class="dsq-item-cp"><a href="http://jackandjillpolitics.disqus.com/monday_open_thread_it8217s_a_new_week_61/">Community Page</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>\
	 <span class="dsq-item-subscribe">\
	 <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/email.png" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle">\
	 <span id="dsq-subscribe">\
	 <a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a>\
	 </span>\
	 </span>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-alerts">\
	 <p><a href="http://disqus.com/profile/login/?next=article:3964694" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false">You must log into your Disqus Profile in order to post comments.</a></p>\
	 </div>\
		';

		

		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) { 
			html = ' \
			<div class="dsq-alert-message dsq-upgrade-message"> \
				<strong>Disqus upgrade available.</strong> Hi ' + Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username + ', this message is being displayed to you because you are a moderator of this site. <a href="#" onclick="Dsq.$(\'dsq-upgrade-message\').style.display=\'block\';this.style.display=\'none\';return false">Click here for details.</a> \
				<div style="display:none; margin-top:10px;" id="dsq-upgrade-message"> \
					A new theme is available with added features. <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/settings/' + Dsq.jsonData.forum.url + '/?p=customize">To change your theme, click here</a> and choose the theme Narcissus. \
					If you do not upgrade, you are missing out on features such as: real-time commenting, new sign-in integrations, and an upgrade interface. \
					<strong>This message will automatically go away in one week.</strong> \
				</div> \
			</div> \
			' + html; 
		}
		return html;
	};

	this.footer = function() {
		var html = Dsq.Templates.pagination();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.authPost();
		

		html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
		

		return html;
	};

	this.pagination = function() {
		var html = '';
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) { Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = ''; }
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.thread.paginate) { return ''; }

		//
		// TODO: num_paginator still uses the template tag for pagination, 
		// 		while append_paginator does it all in JavaScript.
		//		This should all be in JavaScript.
		//

		if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages > 1 && Dsq.jsonData.request.page < Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages) {
			html = ' \<a class="dsq-paginate-append-text" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this); return false">Show more comments...</a>\
	 <button class="dsq-button-small dsq-paginate-append-button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this);">Load more comments</button>\
			';
		}
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = html;
			return '';
		} else {
			return '<div id="dsq-pagination" class="dsq-pagination">' + html + '</div>';
		}
	};

	this.trackbacks = function() {
		var html = '';

		if(typeof DsqLocal != 'undefined' && DsqLocal.trackback_url && DsqLocal.trackbacks) {
			var trackbacks = DsqLocal.trackbacks;
			var trackback_url = DsqLocal.trackback_url;
		} else {
			var trackbacks = [
			
			
			];
			var trackback_url = 'http://jackandjillpolitics.disqus.com/monday_open_thread_it8217s_a_new_week_61/trackback/';
		}

		html += '<div class="dsq-item-trackback">Trackback URL&nbsp;&nbsp;<input class="dsq-trackback-url" onclick="this.select()" readonly="true" value="' + trackback_url + '"></div>';

		if(trackbacks.length) {
			html += '<ul id="dsq-references">'
			for(var i = 0; i < trackbacks.length; i++) {
				var trackback = trackbacks[i];
				html += '<li><cite><a href="' + trackback.author_url + '" rel="nofollow">' + trackback.author_name + '</a></cite> \
						<p class="dsq-meta">' + trackback.date + '</p> \
						<p class="dsq-content">' + trackback.excerpt + '</p></li>';
			}
			html += '</ul>';
			html = '<h3 class="dsq-h3-trackbacks">Trackbacks</h3>' + html;
		}

		return html;
	}

	this.showRetweets = function(id, limit, element_id /* Optional */) {
		var source, html = '';

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			if (reaction.id === id) {
				source = reaction.retweets;
			}
		}

		if (source) {
			if (limit === 0) {
				limit = source.length;
			}

			for (var j = 0; j < limit; j++) {
				var rt = source[j];
				html += '<a href="' + rt.url + '">' + rt.author_name + '</a>'	+ ((j === (limit - 1)) ? '.' : ', ');
			}
		}

		if (element_id === undefined) {
			return html;
		}

		var element = document.getElementById(element_id);
		element.innerHTML = html;
		return element;
	};

	this.showMoreReactions = function(reactions, has_more, start, limit) {
		var link = document.getElementById('dsq-show-more-reactions');
		var container = link.parentNode;
		container.removeChild(link);

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = reactions[i]; i++) {
			var el = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (el) {
				container.innerHTML += el;
			}
		}

		if (has_more) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = start;
			var l = limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			container.innerHTML += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}
	};

	this.generateReactionHTML = function(reaction) {
		if (reaction.body === null || reaction.body == '') {
			return;
		}

		if (reaction.author_name === '') {
			reaction.author_name = '&nbsp;';
		}

		if (reaction.url === '') {
			reaction.url = reaction.get_service_url;
		}

		/* Reaction HTML begins */
		var item = '<li class="dsq-reaction" id="dsq-reaction-' + reaction.id + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-header">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-header-avatar">';

		if (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== '') {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="' + reaction.author_url +'">';
		} else {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="#" onclick="return false;">';
		}

		if (reaction.avatar_url && reaction.avatar_url !== '') {
			item += '<img src="' + reaction.avatar_url + '"/>';
		} else {
			item += '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/noavatar32.png"/>';
		}

		var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
		item += '<img class="dsq-service-icon" src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/reactions/services/' + service_icon + '.png"/>'
			+ '</a></div>'
			+ '<cite><span>' + reaction.author_name + '</span></cite>'
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"><a class="dsq-header-time">' + reaction.date_created + '</a></span>'
			+ '</div><div class="dsq-reaction-body">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-message">' + reaction.body + '</div>'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-footer">From <a class="dsq-service-name" target="_blank" href="' + reaction.url + '">' + reaction.get_service_name + '</a> '
			+ 'via ' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? '<a href="http://backtype.com/">BackType</a>' : '<a href="' + reaction.source_url + '">UberVU</a>')
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator ? '&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;<a class="dsq-hide-reaction" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.hide(' + reaction.id + '); return false;">Hide</a>' : '') + '</div></div>';

		if(reaction.retweets) {
			var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
			if (num_retweets > 0) {
				item += '<div class="dsq-reaction-retweets">';
				if (num_retweets == 1) {
					item += 'One more retweet from <a href="' + reaction.retweets[0].url + '">'  + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '</a>';
				} else {
					item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');

					item += '<span id="dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '">';
					var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 15) ? 15 : num_retweets;
					item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);

					if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
						item += '</span> <a onclick="Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(' + reaction.id + ', 0, \'dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '\');'
							+ 'this.parentNode.removeChild(this); return false;" href="#">Show all</a>';
					}
				}
				item += '</div>';
			}
		}

		item += '</li>'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
		return item;
	};

	this.reactions = function() {
		var html, reaction;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '';
		for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (item) {
				html += item;
			}
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
			var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			html += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}

		return '<h3 class="dsq-h3-reactions">Reactions</h3><ul id="dsq-reactions" class="dsq-reactions">' + html + '</ul>';
	};
	
	this.missingPermissions = function() {
		return '	<p><a href="http://disqus.com/profile/login/?next=article:3964694" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false">You must log into your Disqus Profile in order to post comments.</a></p> \n';
	};

	//
	// Post
	//

	this.prependPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="comment-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="dsq-comment-reply-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-header-avatar" id="dsq-header-avatar-' + post_id + '" onmouseover="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')"> \
				<a id="dsq-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-avatar" href="' + userData.url + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.show_avatar
				? '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key].avatar + '" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '</a>'
			+ '</div> \
		';
	};

	this.postAppendHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];

		return ''
			+ (_meta.author_is_moderator
				? '<img class="dsq-mod-star" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/bullet-star.png" title="Moderator" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"> \
				<a id="dsq-time-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-header-time" href="#comment-' + post_id + '" title="Permalink">' + _meta.date + '</a> \
			</span>';
	};

	this.preBody = function(post_id) {
		return '';
	}

	this.postBody = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Deprecate flagging conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		return ''
			+ (_meta.edited
				? '<p class="dsq-editedtxt">(Edited by a moderator)</p>'
				: '')
			;
	};

	this.postFooter = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Use media should be conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		if(_meta.killed) { return ''; }

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer" id="dsq-comment-footer-' + post_id + '"> \
				<div id="dsq-points-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-likedtxt">'
				+ (_meta.points
					? _meta.points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(_meta.points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.'
					: '')
				+ '</div>'
				+ '<ul class="dsq-comment-options dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.votable
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first dsq-rate" id="dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id + '">'
					+ (!_meta.up_voted
						? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.rate(this, ' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Like</a>'
						: 'You liked this.') + '</li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-report' + (!_meta.votable ? ' dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-post-report-' + post_id + '"><a href="#" class="dsq-post-report" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + post_id + ', false); return false;">Report</a></li> \
				</ul> \
				<ul class="dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.can_reply
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first"><a href="#" id="dsq-reply-link-' + post_id +'" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(this, ' + post_id +'); return false;">Reply</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply && !_meta.has_replies && _meta.from_request_user
					? '<li id="dsq-edit-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-edit-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="' + (!_meta.can_reply ? 'dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-more-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-more-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'more\'); return false">More <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media
					? '<li id="dsq-media-el-' + post_id +'" style="display:none"><a id="dsq-media-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'media\'); return false">Use Media <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '</ul>'
				+ '<div id="dsq-reply-bar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar" style="display:none"> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-items-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-items"> \
						</div> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-auth-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-auth"> \
							 \
								 \
									<a href="#" class="dsq-help dsq-reply-req-opt" title="You must log into an account in order to comment on Jack and Jill Politics" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Required:</a> \
								 \
								<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/dsq-favicon-16x16.png" alt="" /> \
								<a id="dsq-reply-login-' + post_id + '" href="http://disqus.com/profile/login/?next=article:3964694" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false">Login</a> \
								 \
									&nbsp;or&nbsp; \
									<img class="fb_login_image" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/images/fbconnect/login-buttons/connect_light_small_short.gif" alt="Facebook Connect"/> \
									<a href="#" onclick="FB.Connect.requireSession(DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin); return false;">Connect</a> \
								 \
								&nbsp;or&nbsp; \
									<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/twitter-signin-icon.png" alt="" /> \
									<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect(); return false">Sign-in</a> \
								 \
								 \
							 \
						</div> \
					</div> \
					<div id="dsq-reply-' + post_id + '"></div> \
			</div> \
		';
	};

	//
	// Iframes
	//

	this._makeAttributes = function(attributes) {
		// Makes a tag attributes string out of an object.
		// Caller is responsible for making sure nothing needs to be escaped.
		var result = [];
		for (key in attributes) {
			result.push(' ' + key + '="' + attributes[key] + '"');
		}
		result = result.join('');
		return result;
	};

	this._frameGeneric = function(base_url, params, attributes) {
		if(typeof(disqus_callback_params) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_callback_params = '';
		}

		var default_params = {
			// TODO: These should be moved to Dsq.jsonData.
			'f'				: 'jackandjillpolitics',
			't'				: 'monday_open_thread_it8217s_a_new_week_61',
			// Do we need encodeURIComponent here?
			'ifrs'			: encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css),
			'to_redirect'	: encodeURIComponent(window.location),
			'cbp'			: disqus_callback_params,
			'ff'			: Dsq.Thread.ff,
			'fc'			: Dsq.Thread.fc,
			'ac'			: Dsq.Thread.ac,
			'default_text'	: disqus_default_text
		};

		base_url += '?' + (new Date()).getTime();
		// Add params to default_params.
		if(params) {
			for(var key in params) {
				if(params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					default_params[key] = encodeURIComponent(params[key]);
				}
			}
		}
		// Build querystring.
		for(var key in default_params) {
			if(default_params[key] && default_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				base_url += '&' + key + '=' + default_params[key];
			}
		}

		return [
			'<iframe marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" hspace="0" vspace="0" frameborder="0"',
			(' allowtransparency="true" src="' + base_url + '"'),
			this._makeAttributes(attributes),
			'</iframe>'].join('');
	};

	this.frameLogin = function(opt_attributes) {
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/login.html';
		var attributes = opt_attributes || {};
		attributes['class'] = 'dsq-post-login';

		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameReply = function(post_id, extra_params, attributes) {
		// Returns the HTML for a reply iframe. Called by Dsq.Iframes.setReplyIframeToContainer
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = Dsq.Urls.REPLY;
		var params = {
			'def_email'		: disqus_def_email,
			'def_name'		: disqus_def_name
		};
		if(extra_params) {
			for(var key in extra_params) {
				if(extra_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					params[key] = extra_params[key];
				}
			}
		}
		if(_meta) {
			params['parent_post'] = post_id;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined') {
			params['per_page'] = disqus_per_page;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			attributes['class'] += '-authenticated';
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameEdit = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/edit.html';
		var params = {
			'p' : post_id
		};
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, {'class': 'dsq-post-edit', 'name': 'dsq-edit_' + post_id + '-frame'});
	};

	//
	// Menus
	//

	this.menuMore = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: "Remove post" button should hide menu.
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#comment-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.permalink(' + post_id + ')">Link</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Profile</a></li>'
	+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator
		? '	<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>' + (_meta.email ? '<li class="dsq-admin-email">' + _meta.email + '</li>' : '')
		+ '	<li class="dsq-admin-ip">' + _meta.ip + '</li> \
			<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>'
		+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.moderator_can_edit
			? ' <li class="dsq-admin-edit"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit Comment</a></li>'
			: '')
		+ ' <li class="dsq-remove"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.removePost(' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Remove Comment</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-report-spam"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.reportSpam(' + post_id + '); return false;">Mark Spam</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-block-user"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.blacklist(' + post_id + '); return false">Block User</a></li>'
		: '');
	};

	this.menuMedia = function(post_id) {
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(this, ' + post_id + ', \'seesmic\'); return false;">Record video</a></li> \
		';
	};

	this.dropProfile = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};


		var menu = '<li class="dsq-drop-showlnk"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Expand &#8663;</a></li>';
		var pointsMessage = '';
		if (userData['registered']) {
			pointsMessage = 'with ' + userData['points'] + ' points (more points are better).';
		}

		if (userData['is_remote']) {
			var domain = userData['remote_domain_name'];
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' is a ' + domain + ' user ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
			menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-' + domain.toLowerCase() + '">' + domain + '</span></li>';
		} else if (userData['registered']) {
			if (userData['verified']) {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a verified commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span></li>';
			} else {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a registered, but unverified, commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span></li>';
			}
		} else {
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has not claimed this commenter profile." onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()"><span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span></li>';
		}

		menu += _includeServices();
		return menu;
	};

	//
	// Popups
	//

	this._popupGeneric = function(content) {
		return ' \
		<div class="dsq-popup-content"> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-top"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-body" class="clearfix"> \
				<div class="dsq-popup-body-padding"> \
					<div class="dsq-popup-header"> \
						<a class="dsq-close-link" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/modal-close.png" alt="" /></a>'
						+ content['header']
					+ '</div>'
					+ content['body']
					+ '<div class="powered-by"><a href="http://disqus.com/comments/">Powered by <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-logo.png" alt="Disqus Comments" style="margin-bottom:-5px" /></a></div> \
				</div> <!-- padding --> \
			</div> <!-- body --> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-bottom"></div> \
		</div> \
		';
	};

	this.popupProfile = function(user_key) {
		var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(user_key, null);
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var html = '';
			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == 0
					? '<h4>Connections</h4><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li> \
					<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" title="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" /> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>'
				+ (i+1 == userServices.length ? '</ul>' : '');
			}
			return html;
		};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<table> \
				<tr> \
					<td> \
						<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><img class="dsq-popup-profile-avatar" src="' + userData['avatar'] + '" alt="" /></a> \
					</td> \
					<td> \
						<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user"> \
							<h3>' + userData['display_name'] + '</h3> \
							<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats" id="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + user_key + '">Loading...</div> \
						</div> \
					</td> \
				</tr> \
			</table> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-state"> \
				This is a&nbsp;<span class="'
					+ (userData['registered']
						? (userData['verified']
							? ' dsq-badge-verified'
							: (userData['is_remote']
								? ' dsq-badge-' + userData['remote_domain_name'].toLowerCase()
								: ' dsq-badge-registered')
							)
							: ' dsq-badge-guest') + '">'
			+ (userData['registered']
				? (userData['verified']
					? 'Verified'
					: (userData['is_remote']
						 ? userData['remote_domain_name']
						 : 'Registered')
					)
				: 'Guest')
			+ '</span>&nbsp;commenter profile.'
			+ '&nbsp;<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><strong>View more comments </strong></a>'
			+ (!userData['points']
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice">If this is you, <a href="http://disqus.com/profile" target="_blank">claim it now</a> to manage your comments.</p>'
				: '')
			+ ((userData['registered'] && !userData['verified'] && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username == userData['username'])) && !userData['is_remote'])
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice"><strong>Alert</strong>: You have not verified this account. <a href="http://disqus.com/verify">Verify it now.</a></p>'
				: '')
			+ '</div> \
			<div id="dsq-profile-status-' + user_key + '" class="dsq-popup-profile-status" style="display:none"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-snapshot"> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td> \
							<div id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Most active sites</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
						<td>'
							+ _includeServices()
							+ '<div id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Moderator of</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div> \
			';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupReblog = function() {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<cite><span>Reblog this comment</span></cite> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div id="dsq-reblog-form" class="dsq-reblog-form"> \
			</div> \
		';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupModal = function(title, message) {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<h3>' + title + '</h3> \
		';

		bodyHtml = message;

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.alertContent = function(name, post_id) {
		var alert = {
			'post_not_approved': {
				'title': 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator',
				'message': 'Thanks for posting. Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.'
			},
			'post_has_profile': {
				'title': 'Use your existing commenter profile',
				'message': 'You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> commenter profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a>'
			}
		};
		return alert[name] || false;
	};

	//
	// Actions
	//

	this.voted = function(post_id, points, vote) {
		// Update number of points
		Dsq.$('dsq-points-' + post_id).innerHTML = points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.';

		// Update link text
		if(vote) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id).innerHTML = 'You liked this.';
		}
	};

	this.subscribed = function(status) {
		var title, message;

		if(status) {
			title = 'Subscribed!';
			message = 'You have subscribed to this comment thread. New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox, where you may read and respond by email.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(0); return false">Unsubscribe</a> \
			';
		} else {
			title = 'Unsubscribed';
			message = 'You have unsubscribed to this comment thread. New comments will no longer be sent to your email inbox.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a> \
			';
		}

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);

	};
	
	this.highlighted = function() {
		Dsq.Popup.popModal('This comment has been highlighted.', 'Highlighted comment');
	};

	//
	// Media
	//

	this.mediaSeesmic = function(id, thumb) {
		return ' \
			<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_preview" class="dsq-seesmic-preview"><a href="http://www.seesmic.com/video/' + id + '" target="_blank" class="see_link">&nbsp;</a> \
				<div style="display:block;width:160px; height:120px; border:none; background-image:url(http://t.seesmic.com/thumbnail/' + thumb + ')"> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_hide" class="seePlayOverlay" style="display:none;"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',false)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/stopOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_show" class="seePlayOverlay"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',true)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/playOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; border:none; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
				</div> \
			</div> \
			<div id="' + id + '_content" style="display:block; width:100%; padding-top:5px"></div> \
		';
	};

	//
	// Callbacks
	//

	this.postComment_onSuccess = function(parent_post_id) {
		// Increment post count
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');
		
		if (num_posts) { 
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) { 
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
	};
};
// Dsq.Templates


/**
 * Dsq.Post
 */
Dsq.Post = new function() {
	this.openedMenu = {};
	this.menuEventListener = null;
	this.stateReplyToggled = {};
	this.stateEditToggled = {};
	this.stateRecordLink = {};

	/**
	 * Inserts a new post into the document.
	 *
	 * @param after_id {Number}	Insert a post before specified id.  If after_id
	 *							evaluates to false, then post in the front.  If
	 *							after_id is -1, post at the end.
	 */
	this.insert = function(after_id, id, message, author) {
		// Skeleton template from thread_posts.html.
		var skeleton = ' \
			<li id="dsq-comment-%(id)s"> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-header-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-header"> \
					<cite id="dsq-cite-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-cite"> \
						<a id="dsq-author-user-%(id)s" href="%(author_url)s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">%(author_name)s</a> \
					</cite> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-body-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-body"> \
					<div id="dsq-comment-message-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-message">%(message)s</div> \
				</div> \
			</li> \
		';
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var _user_meta = Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key];
		var markup = Dsq.Utils.interpolate(skeleton, {
			id: id,
			message: message,
			author_url: _user_meta.blog,
			author_name: _user_meta.display_name
		});
		var div = document.createElement('div');
		markup = markup.replace(Dsq.COMMENTS_RE, Dsq.CommentsHandler);
		div.innerHTML = markup;

		if (after_id === -1) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').appendChild(div);
		} else if (!after_id) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').insertBefore(div, Dsq.$('dsq-comments').firstChild);
		} else if (Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + after_id)) {
			// Get next node after "after_id", so we can insert before it.
			// If "after_id" is the last comment, the target node is the
			// last node.
			
			// var append_post_id = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(after_id).replace('<div id="','').replace('"></div>', '');
			var append_post_id = 'dsq-append-post-' + after_id;
			var node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			while (node = node.nextSibling) {
				if (!node || node.nodeType == 1) { // 1 == Node.ELEMENT_NODE
					break;
				}
			}
			if (!node) {
				node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			}
			node.parentNode.insertBefore(div, node);
		}
	};

	this.incrementPostCount = function() {
		
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');

		if (num_posts) {
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) {
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
	}
	
	this.outlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className += ' dsq-comment-outline';
		setTimeout("(function () { Dsq.Post.clearOutlineComment(" + post_id + ") })()", 3000);
	};
	
	this.clearOutlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className.replace('dsq-comment-outline', '');
	};

	this.showMenu = function(el, id, name) {
		var anchorPos = Dsq.Utils.findPos(el);
		var menu = document.createElement('ul');

		if(this.openedMenu) {
			if(this.openedMenu.linkClicked) {
				this.openedMenu.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		switch(name) {
			case 'more':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMore(id);
				break;
			case 'media':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMedia(id);
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}

		// Add menu to document body
		menu.id = 'dsq-menu-' + id;
		menu.className = 'dsq-menu';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(menu);

		// Position and show
		anchorPos[1] += 15;
		menu.style.left = anchorPos[0] + 'px';
		menu.style.top = anchorPos[1] + 'px';
		menu.style.display = 'block';

		// Set global reference
		this.openedMenu = {
			'el' : menu,
			'id' : id,
			'name' : name,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};

		// Set listener
		this.menuEventListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._hideMenu);
	};

	this._hideMenu = function(e) {
		var el = e.target || e.srcElement;
		var openedMenu = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el;
		var id = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.id;

		if(!id) {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link';
		} else {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link-' + id;
		}

		if(!openedMenu) {
			return;
		}

		if(!Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, openedMenu.id)) {
			openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
			Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Post.menuEventListener);
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(openedMenu);

		} else {
			// Hide the menu if a link was clicked inside the menu.  We can't
			// completely remove the menu until the onclick event on the link
			// fires, but the menuEventListener will prevent multiple menus
			// from polluting the DOM.
			if(el && typeof el.href != 'undefined') {
				openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el = null;
			}
		}

		if(Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Post.openedMenu.linkClicked = true;
		}
	};


	this.getUserServices = function(user_key, id) {
		if(!user_key && id) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
			user_key = _meta.user_key;
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var userServices = [];

		// Keep a full list of supported services. This is the order they will display in the drop-profile.
		// Each service must have a corresponding case in _buildServiceUrl()
		var supportedServices = ['blog', 'twitter', 'facebook', 'tumblr'];

		function _buildServiceUrl(serviceName) {
			var data = userData[serviceName];
			var services = {
				blog:		function(d) { return d; },
				twitter:	function(d) { return d; },
				facebook:	function(d) { return d; },
				tumblr:		function(d) { return 'http://' + d + '.tumblr.com'; }
			};
			return services[serviceName](data);
		}

		for(var i = 0; i < supportedServices.length; i++) {
			if(userData[supportedServices[i]]) {
				var serviceUrl = _buildServiceUrl(supportedServices[i]);
				userServices.push({'name' : supportedServices[i], 'url' : serviceUrl});
			}
		}
		return userServices;
	}

	this.dropProfile = function(id) {
		var dp = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-profile-' + id);

		// IE6 needs JS to display/hide. All other browsers use CSS.
		if(dp) {
			if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) dp.style.display = (dp.style.display == 'inline') ? 'none' : 'inline';
			return false;
		} else {
			dp = document.createElement('ul');
		}

		dp.id = 'dsq-drop-profile-' + id;
		dp.className = 'dsq-drop-profile';

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) { dp.style.display = 'inline'; }

		var container = Dsq.$('dsq-header-avatar-' + id);
		dp.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.dropProfile(id);
		container.appendChild(dp);
	};

	this.dropProfileMore = function(el, id) {
		var hiddenItems = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-hidden-' + id);

		hiddenItems.style.display = 'inline';
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
	};

	this._updateReplyLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "reply / cancel" links based on state.
		var displayDict = {};

		if(id) {
			if(this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				el.innerHTML = 'Cancel';
				displayDict['media'] = 'inline';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'none';
			} else {
				el.innerHTML = 'Reply';
				displayDict['media'] = 'none';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'inline';
			}
		}

		for(var key in displayDict) {
			if(displayDict.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var	linkEl = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-el-' + id),
					spacer = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-spacer-' + id);

				if(linkEl) {
					linkEl.style.display = displayDict[key];
					if(spacer) spacer.style.display = displayDict[key];
				}
			}
		}
	};

	this._updateMediaLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "use media / cancel" links based on state.
		var appendId = (id) ? ('-' + id) : '';
		var link = Dsq.$('dsq-media-link' + appendId);

		if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			link.innerHTML = 'Cancel Media';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(link, id); return false; };
		} else {
			link.innerHTML = 'Use Media <small>&#9660;</small>';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.showMenu(link, id, 'media'); return false; };
		}
	};

	this.toggleReply = function(el, id) {
		// Create reply IFrame
		if (window.disqus_use_postmessage) {
			if (!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				// Create IFrame if it doesn't exist.
				if (!Dsq.frames['reply_' + id]) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-frame-' + id), id);
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].init();
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].setState(id, _meta.depth);
				}
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
			}
		} else {
			// DEPRECATED
			if(!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				// Reply toolbar
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id), id);
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Iframes.hideAllInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id));
				if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
					// HACK: Cancel media before canceling self.
					this.toggleMediaReply(Dsq.$('dsq-media-link-' + id), id);
				}
			}
		}

		this.stateReplyToggled[id] = !this.stateReplyToggled[id];
		this._updateReplyLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-reply-' + id); }

		Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED, {
			postId: id,
			opened: this.stateReplyToggled[id]
		});
	};

	this.toggleMediaReply = function(el, id, xtype) {
		id = id || 0;
		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(!this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id, {xtype:xtype}, 'dsq-post-video');
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id);
		}
		this.stateRecordLink[id] = !this.stateRecordLink[id];
		this._updateMediaLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};

	this.edit = function(el, id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.frameEdit(id);
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-comment-message-' + id); }
	};

    this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
			if(vote == 1) {
                Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + id).innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
            }

            Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/vote.js'
                + '?post_id='    + id
                + '&vote='        + vote);

		} else {
			Dsq.Popup.login(Dsq.Strings.TO_RATE_PLEASE_LOG_IN);
		}
    };

	this.report = function(id, confirmed) {
		if(confirmed) {
			Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/monday_open_thread_it8217s_a_new_week_61/post_report/', {'post_id': id});
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('Thank you. This comment has been flagged for moderator attention.', 'Successfully flagged');
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$('dsq-post-report-' + id));
		} else {
			var title = Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT;
			var message = Dsq.Strings.ARE_YOU_SURE_YOU_WOULD_LIKE_TO_REPORT_THIS_COMMENT_TO_A_MODERATOR + '? \
			<br /><br /> \
			<button onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true)"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.NO + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.NEVER_MIND + '</button>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<button onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + id + ', true);"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.YES + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT + '</button><br /><br />'
			+ Dsq.Strings.THIS_WILL_FLAG_COMMENTS_FOR_MODERATORS_TO_TAKE_ACTION + '. \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, id);
		}
	};



	this.showAlert = function(id, msg) {
		var msgEl = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id);
		var alert = '<div class="dsq-comment-alert">' + msg + '</div>';

		msgEl.innerHTML = alert + msgEl.innerHTML;
	};

};
// Dsq.Post


/**
 * Dsq.Thread
 */
Dsq.Thread = new function() {
	this.fc = null;
	this.ff = null;
	this.ac = null;

	
	this.adminIsOn = false;

	
	
	

	this.hlComment = null;
	this.hlCommentClass = null;

	this.getNextComment = function(el) {
		var start_id = el.id;
		while(el = el.nextSibling) {
			if(el.id && el.id.indexOf('dsq-comment-') != -1 && el.id != start_id) {
				return el;
			}
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.getActiveCommentId = function() {
		if (document.URL.indexOf('#comment-') >= 0) {
			var anchor = document.URL.slice(document.URL.indexOf('#') + 1);
			return anchor.replace('comment-', '');
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.highlightAnchor = function() {
		var i = this.getActiveCommentId();
		if (i == null) return false;
		var id = 'dsq-comment-' + i;
		var hash = window.location.hash;

		// Toggle the hash incase the comment isn't available when the page loads
		// for WebKit-based browsers.
		if (Dsq.Utils.webkit) {
			window.location.hash = '';
			window.location.hash = hash;
		}

		this.hlComment = Dsq.$(id);
		// Adding this conditional guard pending #289
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlCommentClass = this.hlComment.className;
		this.hlComment.className += ' dsq-hl-anchor';

		setTimeout("Dsq.Thread.highlightClear()", 3000);
	};

	this.highlightClear = function() {
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlComment.className = this.hlCommentClass;
	};

	this.login = function(toggle) {
		// toggle id is #dsq-reply-login-[id]
		var postId;
		if(toggle.id.indexOf('dsq-reply-login') != -1) {
			postId = toggle.id.slice(16);
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + postId);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(toggle) {
			if(toggle.className == 'dsq-login-active') {
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(container, postId);
				toggle.className = '';
			} else {
				Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
				toggle.className = 'dsq-login-active';
			}
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
		}

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};


	this.paginate = function(page, el_clicked, per_page) {
		// Use extra_params to pass any override parameters that we need to persist.
		var extra_params = '';

		// "Per page" can either be overriden by providing it as an argument
		// (per-call) or setting the disqus_per_page override variable (global).
		if(typeof per_page == 'undefined') {
			per_page = null;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined' && per_page === null) {
			per_page = disqus_per_page;
		}

		if(typeof disqus_sort != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&sort=' + disqus_sort;
		}
		if(per_page !== null) {
			extra_params += '&per_page=' + per_page;
		}

		Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML += '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
		
		if(el_clicked) {
			el_clicked.style.display = 'none';
		}
		
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'monday_open_thread_it8217s_a_new_week_61'
			+ '&p='		+ page
			+ extra_params);
	};

	this.sortBy = function(sort) {
		var disqus_script = document.createElement('script');
		var disqus_date = new Date();

		if (location.hash != '') {
			location.hash = '#disqus_thread';
		}

		if(typeof(disqus_url) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_url = disqus_href;
		}
		disqus_script.type = 'text/javascript';
		disqus_script.src = 'http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'monday_open_thread_it8217s_a_new_week_61'
			+ '&sort='	+ sort
			+ '&title='
			+ '&'		+ disqus_date.getTime();

		Dsq.$('dsq-comments').innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif">';
		Dsq.container.appendChild(disqus_script);
	};

	this.subscribe = function(status, email) {
		// `status` is an int -- 1 to subscribe, 0 to unsubscribe
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || email) {
			// If authenticated user OR anonymous email provided

			if(email) {
				Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
			}

			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/subscribe.js'
				+'?status=' 	+ status
				+ '&slug='		+ 'monday_open_thread_it8217s_a_new_week_61'
				+ '&email=' 	+ encodeURIComponent(email));

		} else if(!email) {
			// If anonymous user and no email has been provided yet, prompt for email

			var title = 'Subscribe to this comment thread';
			var message = ' \
				New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox! \
				<div class="dsq-subscribe-submit"> \
					<p><strong>Enter your email address below.</strong></p> \
					<input type="text" id="dsq-subscribe-email"> \
					<button onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1, Dsq.$(\'dsq-subscribe-email\').value)">Subscribe</button> \
				</div> \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
		}
	};

	this.showSettings = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
			return;
		}

		/* The form has to be re-designed when more options will come out. */
		var html = 'Automatically close comments after <input size="3" id="dsq-thread-days-alive" value="' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.days_alive + '" type="text" /> days. Existing comments will still be displayed.<br /><br />(Using 0 days will disable this feature)<br /><br />'
								 + '<button onclick="Dsq.Thread.updateDaysAlive();" class="dsq-button-small"><span>Save</span></button>'
								 + '<span id="dsq-thread-settings-status" class="dsq-options-status"></span>';
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, 'Settings');
	};

	this.updateDaysAlive = function() {
		var days = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-days-alive').value;
		var status = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-settings-status');
		Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/update_days_alive.js', {days:days,thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
		status.innerHTML = 'Saved!';
		window.setTimeout(function() { status.innerHTML = ''; }, 1000);
	};
};
// Dsq.Thread

Dsq.Events = function() {
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var handlers = {};
	var getHandlers = function(event) {
		if (handlers[event] === undefined) {
			handlers[event] = [];
		}
		return handlers[event];
	};

	// Public
	// Value keys : postId, node, xtype
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_CREATED = 1;
	// Value keys : postId, opened
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED = 2;
	obj.fire = function(event, opt_value) {
		if (!event) {
			throw new Error('Unknown event');
		}
		var value = opt_value || {};
		for (var i=0; i<getHandlers(event).length; i++) {
			getHandlers(event)[i](value);
		}
	};
	obj.addHandler = function(event, callback) {
		getHandlers(event).push(callback);
	};

	return obj;
}();

/**
 * Dsq.Realtime
 */
Dsq.Realtime = new function() {
	var initialized = false;
	var interval = null;
	var last_checked = Dsq.jsonData.request.timestamp;
	var new_posts = [];
	var ongoing_request = false;
	var prev_script = null;

	function updateNewPostCount() {
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-alert').style.display = new_posts.length ? 'block' : 'none';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-queued').innerHTML = new_posts.length
		+ ' new '
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, 'comment', 'comments')
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, ' was', ' were')
		+ ' just posted.';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.SHOW + ')';
	}

	function insertNewPosts() {
		var post_id = null;
		var after_id = Dsq.$('dsq-sort-select').value === 'oldest' ? -1 : null;

		for (var i=0; i<new_posts.length; i++) {
			post_id = new_posts[i];
			Dsq.Post.insert(after_id, post_id, Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id].message);
			Dsq.Post.incrementPostCount();
			Dsq.Post.outlineComment(post_id);
		}
		new_posts = [];
	}

	this.enableInterval = function() {
		interval = setInterval(Dsq.Realtime.check, Dsq.jsonData.context.realtime_speed);
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.ENABLED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.PAUSE + ')';
	}

	this.disableInterval = function() {
		if (interval) {
			clearInterval(interval);
			interval = null;
		}
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.PAUSED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.RESUME + ')';
	}

	this.toggleInterval = function() {
		if (!interval) {
			Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
		} else {
			Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
		}
		return false;
	}

	this.initialize = function() {
		if (!initialized) {
			initialized = true;
			Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').onclick = this.toggleInterval;
			if (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').onclick = this.show;
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
			if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.realtime_paused) {
				Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
			} else {
				Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
			}
		}
	}

	this.show = function() {
		insertNewPosts();
		updateNewPostCount();
		return false;
	}

	this.check = function() {
		if (!ongoing_request && Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			if (prev_script) {
				prev_script.parentNode.removeChild(prev_script);
			}
			ongoing_request = true;
			prev_script = Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/3964694/realtime.js?timestamp=' + last_checked);
		}
	};

	this.update = function(timestamp, posts, users) {
		ongoing_request = false;
		last_checked = timestamp;

		if (users) {
			for (var user_id in users) {
				if (users.hasOwnProperty(user_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id] = users[user_id];
					}
				}
			}
		}

		if (posts) {
			for (var post_id in posts) {
				if (posts.hasOwnProperty(post_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] = posts[post_id];
						new_posts.push(post_id);
					}
				}
			}

			if (Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				insertNewPosts();
			} else {
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
		}
	};

}();

// DEPRECATED
Dsq.Iframes = function() {
	// Different style of object from the above. Hoping to switch to this for some reason.
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var showIframeInContainer = function(container, id, markup) {
		// Look through container for iframes, hiding them, except show one that matches id
		// If none of them matched id, create a new iframe using markup and insert it.
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<ul id="dsq-comments">\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-1967992">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-1967992" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-1967992" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967992">rikyrah</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-1967992" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967992" class="dsq-comment-message"><a href="http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/07/clinton200807" rel="nofollow">Vanity Fair Article on Bill Clinton</a></div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-1967993">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-1967993" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-1967993" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967993">B-Serious</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-1967993" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967993" class="dsq-comment-message">@rikyrah,<br></br><br>I heard about that article.  To be honest, I could care less so long as Obama wins the nomination by Tuesday (or early Wednesday at the latest).</br><br></br><br>But we should note that this undercuts Hillary\'s "I\'ve been vetted" nonsense.  No she hasn\'t and neither has her husband, post-presidency.  It\'s just Obama chose not to talk about the skeletons in their closet.</br><br></br><br>Bill can dj a strip club for all I care.  I just want him and Hillary out of this race.</br></div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-1967994">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-1967994" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-1967994" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967994">Big Mik</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-1967994" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967994" class="dsq-comment-message">Droping this great article found on <a href="http://EURweb.com" rel="nofollow">EURweb.com</a>. THIS IS A MUST READ.<br></br><br>JASMYNE CANNICK: Anti-Black attitudes, alleged Democrats, Black political deference, and why I’m still a Democrat.</br><br></br><br>The short and sweet of it is that the Democratic National Committee’s rules and bylaws committee decided to seat all of Florida and Michigan’s delegates at the convention in August. </br><br></br><br>The catch? They only get a half-vote. This is to penalize them for moving up their primaries. The committee’s ruling gave Clinton 105 pledged delegates from Florida and 69 from Michigan, with a total of 87 votes. </br><br></br><br>Obama received 67 pledged delegates from Florida and 59 from Michigan, casting a total of 63 votes. The decision keeps Obama’s lead in tact.</br><br></br><br>Enter angry Clinton supporters who are claiming that the Democratic Party is throwing the election away on an “inadequate Black man” and that if she isn’t the nominee—hello McCain! Can you imagine the fallout if an Obama supporter had been quoted in the media calling Clinton an ‘inadequate woman,’ let alone an ‘inadequate white woman?’ The media would have a field day—no make that week!</br><br></br><br>At election time, I fully expect the Republican Party to try and incite mass hysteria at the polls under the guise of morality—and the Old Testament. What I don’t expect is for members of my own party to throw temper tantrums and put aside common sense choosing to side with the opposition just because their candidate is losing. </br><br></br><br>These alleged Democrats—the same ones screaming for universal healthcare, gay marriage, and an end to the war in Iraq, are willing to throw it all away if their candidate doesn’t get the nomination.</br><br></br><br>Statements of Obama being an “inadequate Black man” clearly show that the Democratic Party, as liberal as we might want to claim ourselves to be, still carry anti-Black attitudes among its rank and file members. Attitudes that up until this point were for the most part covert, but over the past year have now become blatantly overt as Clinton supporters lash out in anger—and desperation, the latest being at the DNC rules committee meeting with the comment of Obama being an “inadequate Black man.”</br><br></br><br>I’d like to believe that the anger expressed by Clinton’s supporters is because of their devotion to her as a candidate and perceived injustices. But after a bevy of racist comments from Clinton’s supporters and the Clinton’s themselves, I am more inclined to believe that there is a strong segment of Democrats, mostly white, who see Obama’s ascension as threatening and it has nothing to do with Clinton’s experience.</br><br></br><br>I came to this conclusion after repeated charges by Clinton supporters that if she didn’t win the nomination that they were either not going to vote or were going to vote for McCain. Well that and Clinton’s own admission that she’s the more electable candidate, which if you listen to her closely sounds a lot more like she’s touting her skin color than her experience.</br><br></br><br>This is much bigger than the notion that Clinton is the better candidate. Because if it was about her being the better candidate, then it would have been Obama is an “inadequate man” verses an “inadequate Black man.” And Clinton supporter Geraldine Ferraro would have blamed Obama’s popularity on his sex rather than his race. No, this is about fear related to the unresolved racial tension between Black and white America in a country that has yet to officially apologize for its role in slavery and the years of institutionalized racism that have since followed leaving a bitter taste in the mouth of many Blacks.</br><br></br><br>With my one Democratic vote, I know I can voice my opposition against the Republican Party, their failed policies, and conservative principles that further promote economic and social depression. </br><br></br><br>What I struggle with is how to voice opposition in my own party where even those elected to represent my interests have conformed to the point where their own status within the Party and with the Clinton’s has taken precedence over standing up against the Party’s recent racist tirades. Tirades, that while mainly directed towards Obama, are a direct reflection of the Party’s lingering anti-Black attitudes among some of its white members.</br><br></br><br>There’s all this talk of party unification among Obama and Clinton supporters going into November, but very little has been said about reconciling with Black Democrats who after it’s all been said and done, spent the last year watching Obama, a Black man, being called everything but a nigger (in public) and his wife Michelle a ‘washer woman.’ As one of those Black Democrats, am I expected to just turn the other cheek and continue on in a Party that is fine having Blacks as members, but divided on whether or not we’re capable of serving as leaders or the Commander-in-Chief?</br><br></br><br>It’s been 37 years since Democratic Representatives Shirley Chisholm, William Clay, George Collins, John Conyers, Ronald Dellums, Charles Diggs, Augustus Hawkins, Ralph Metcalfe, Parren Mitchell, Robert Nix, Charles Rangel, Louis Stokes, and DC Delegate Walter Fauntroy founded the Congressional Black Caucus. And even though Democrats are on the verge of having a Black presidential nominee, and we have 43 members currently serving in the CBC, the Democratic Party itself has been and continues to be mostly white led (male and female). From the DNC officers and Democratic Party organizational leadership, Black faces are far and few between on the leadership pages, which could explain the lingering pre-Reconstruction anti-Black attitudes among some white Democrats regarding Obama’s ascendancy. </br><br></br><br>Earlier this year California Representative and CBC member Diane Watson said that when people her age in the Party are dead and gone that people Obama’s age and younger could come in and run things. I just don’t think I can wait until then—in fact, I don’t think the country can wait until then. </br><br></br><br>We need change now and not just a change in the White House, we need change in our own party before we self-implode. For far too long, Black voters have participated in political deference when  we should be asking our CBC brothers and sisters why, regardless of whom they are supporting for President, they are silent when members of the Party refer to their colleague (Obama is in the CBC), as an “inadequate Black man?” If he’s an inadequate Black man, what does that make them? The Democrats need to be challenged on why minorities, females, and those under 30 are encouraged to vote, but not to lead, and why when they attempt to lead their voices are quickly drowned out. I need to know why it’s more of an asset in California to be a gay male or female in the Democratic Party than to be Black—straight or gay.</br><br></br><br>Democratic Presidential frontrunner Obama says it’s time for ‘change’ and Clinton says that she’s got the ‘experience.’ Well my experience with change is that it doesn’t come without a struggle, but it does come. If I owe anything to these two candidates it’s gratitude for awakening the need to ask why and to challenge the status quo in my own Party, which is much more gratifying at the end of the day than walking away in disgust with the whole damn process and declaring myself an Independent.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-1967995" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-1967995" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967995">KRK</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-1967995" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967995" class="dsq-comment-message">Um, that photo is kind of creeping me out. Baby salad?</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-1967996">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-1967996" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-1967996" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967996">ultramagnetic</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-1967996" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967996" class="dsq-comment-message">From Politico.com:<br></br><br>Clinton camp converging on New York Tuesday, and shedding staff</br><br></br><br>http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Clinton_camp_converging_on_New_York_Tuesday_and_shedding_staff.html</br></div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-1967997">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-1967997" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-1967997" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967997">ultramagnetic</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-1967997" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967997" class="dsq-comment-message">Sorry messed that link up.<br></br><br><a href="http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Clinton_camp_converging_on_New_York_Tuesday_and_shedding_staff.html" rel="nofollow">Clinton camp converging on New York Tuesday, and shedding staff</a></br></div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-1967998">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-1967998" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-1967998" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967998">onein4</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-1967998" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967998" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'ve started to really dislike Harold Ford.</div>\
	 </div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-1967999">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-1967999" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-1967999" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967999">Anonymous</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-1967999" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967999" class="dsq-comment-message">That picture is so cute!!</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-1968000" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-1968000" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968000">Sepia</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-1968000" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968000" class="dsq-comment-message">Dan Rather really pissed me off this morning.<br></br><br>Someone emailed The Morning Joe crew telling them that until they dig into John McCain\'s pastors, they need to lay off of Obama\'s so called pastor problem. Dan Rather said that he suspected that emails like that are orchestrated. Yep, Dan Rather, who lost his job thanks to his reporting on Bush, thinks that any emails criticizing the media\'s coverage of Wright/Pfleger/Trinity are phoney! </br><br></br><br>Of course, resident MSNBC bubble head, Mica Briewzinsky, claimed that they did talk about Hagee and the two situations ar different. Rather also said that the reason why Hillary hasn\'t received flack for her religious affiliations is because nothing has been found. I guess they missed the memo about The Family.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968001" class="dsq-comment-message">From American Thinker:<br></br><br><a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/was_the_iraq_war_worth_it.html" rel="nofollow">Was the Iraq War Worth It?</a>…and I challenge you to <b><i>read</i></b> the piece before just blindly answering the question!!!</br><br></br><br>And…</br><br></br><br><a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/for_liberals_soldiers_are_vict.html" rel="nofollow">For Liberals, Soldiers are Victims</a></br><br></br><br>Also, if there\'s any JJP readers in VA, hit me an email....working on a project.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968002" class="dsq-comment-message">Great piece by Jasmyne Cannick.  It is *precisely* why I stopped registering as a Democrat; no longer refer to myself as a Democrat; and will no longer cast a vote for someone SOLELY because they have a (D) after their name.<br></br><br>I expected this white resentment of Obama\'s ascension, primarily because I saw the same kind of resentment of Jesse Jackson; of L. Douglas Wilder; of David Dinkins; of Harold Ford; of Deval Patrick.  But I\'ve also seen it with would-be U.S. Senator like Colorado\'s Mike Miles, who had happen to him precisely what we feared would happen to Barack: a Democratic party that nominated someone with fewer delegates because they were more electable (and not Black).</br><br></br><br>For too long, Black rank and file Democrats have obediently accepted the role of "disgruntled employee", instead of "vested owner".  With the ascension of Barack Obama, hopefully Black Democrats are learning that ownership has its privileges.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968003" class="dsq-comment-message"><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121236324804036403.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks" rel="nofollow">Count Every Half Vote!</a><br></br><br>“<i>Her feminist supporters are also suggesting that their heroine is the victim of "sexism." Meanwhile, if the superdelegates do give the nomination to Mrs. Clinton, many of Mr. Obama\'s supporters will cry "racism." The identity politics that Democrats love to use against Republicans has now come back to haunt them.</i>”</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968004" class="dsq-comment-message">Ted Kennedy just went in for surgery at the Duke Medical Center. Send him positive thoughts and prayers.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968005" class="dsq-comment-message">onein4,<br></br><br>you\'ve only STARTED to dislik the Dark Sith? What took you so long?</br><br></br><br>LOL</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968006" class="dsq-comment-message">krk,<br></br><br>it\'s from Anne Geddes. She does interesting pics with babies.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968007" class="dsq-comment-message">d,<br></br><br>The progress made in Iraq will continue to pressure the MSM and Obama to acknowledge our success.</br><br></br><br>Once Obama wraps up the nomination and he will pivot to the center. He is a smooth, cool political operator. Look how he played Wright and TUCC to consolidate his support among black voters, but now has disavowed the pastor and resigned the church in order to make himself more electable to moderates and independents. Black support remains firmly in tact.</br><br></br><br>Now, Obama has held to his firm anti-war, all-is-lost, surge won\'t make a difference stance, in order to keep the moveon money flowing. But soon he will \'take the money and run\' to the center on this issue is well.</br><br></br><br>Flag pin. Wright. See the pattern?</br><br></br><br>Its all about the center. With the black vote and the far left anti-war vote forming the base of his support, he will now take politically expedient and opportunistic route, just like any other ambitious politician.</br><br></br><br>Expect to see Obama serve up a new brand of koolaid. </br><br></br><br>\'Obama-lite,\' anyone? Tastes great, less liberal. Care to take a sip?</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968008" class="dsq-comment-message">I think regardless of what happens between Obama and Clinton, black people need to leave the Democratic party en masse and form independent parties and start from the ground up instead of shooting straight for the top.  Instead of starting at Governor or President, start with school board and city council.  We have the money to do it if we wanted to, if we can keep the Koreans living large and lovely with the hair and nails we could finance some independent candidates from the ground up to get things done.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968009">Ms.Martin</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968009" class="dsq-comment-message">I love the picture rikyrah.<br></br><br>Is this an Ann Gettes(sp) photo?</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968010" class="dsq-comment-message">S,<br>Tastes great, less liberal...priceless.</br><br></br><br>The Trinity UCC element of the electorate wasn\'t going to disavow Obama just because he left the church. That would mean voting for McCain (who they don\'t like) or Clinton (who they don\'t like more). Unfortunately, that move isn\'t going to swing any votes to him.</br><br></br><br>Obama is going to go radically center once he gets the nomination. I expect a lot of attempts to "clarify" his previous statements on Iraq, the War on Terror, etc. I also expect the populace to see it for what it is: political pandering. </br><br></br><br>That\'s probably why he hasn\'t been to Iraq lately, because he\'s then left with two options: acknowledge the success and piss off Soros\' crowd, or openly lie to the American public.</br><br></br><br>The question then becomes what does the anti-war crowd do? Do they run back to Hillary (who already threw them under the bus)?  Do they run to Bob Barr (who really won\'t win)? Or, God forbid, do they actually crawl back under their rocks?</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968011" class="dsq-comment-message"><b>From the NYT...so now Obama will be held to the fire for not encouraging young Americans to join the Armed Forces..which is sad considering the backdoor draft that the Bushwhacker has been doing by using the National Guard to fight foreign wars. </b><br></br><br>June 2, 2008</br><br>Op-Ed Columnist</br><br>What Obama Left Out </br><br>By WILLIAM KRISTOL</br><br>Commencement speeches are hard.</br><br></br><br>I gave one at a college about seven years ago. I labored over it, consulting orations from years past, writing and rewriting drafts. I ended up with remarks that struck me — even while I delivered them — as banal and platitudinous. Luckily, no one seemed to be paying much attention — and at least I kept it short. I don’t think I did too much damage to the enjoyment of the day by the graduating students and their parents.</br><br></br><br>Since then, whenever I look at the annual roundup of commencement addresses, I can’t help but admire those who can pull off this mode of speechifying.</br><br></br><br>Barack Obama, you won’t be surprised to learn, can pull it off. He spoke on the Sunday of Memorial Day weekend at Wesleyan University in Middletown, Conn., pinch-hitting for Senator Ted Kennedy, on the theme of service to our country. The speech was skillfully crafted and well delivered, the grace notes were graceful, and the exhortations to public service seemed heartfelt but not cloying.</br><br></br><br>The speech was a success. It’s also revealing — about Obama’s view of himself and of public service.</br><br></br><br>Obama chooses to introduce the notion of public service from an autobiographical point of view. In college, he explains, “I began to notice a world beyond myself.” So while his friends were seeking jobs on Wall Street, he applied for jobs as a grass-roots activist. And one day, a group of churches in Chicago offered him a job as a community organizer for “$12,000 a year plus $2,000 for an old, beat-up car.”</br><br></br><br>“And I said yes.”</br><br></br><br>Those four words form their own paragraph in the prepared text. Obama wants us to be impressed by the drama of his spurning the big bucks, by his bold acceptance of such a pittance of money in order that he could do good.</br><br></br><br>Leave aside the fact that two years elapsed between Obama’s graduation from Columbia in 1983 and his heading off to Chicago in 1985. Dramatic foreshortening is, after all, sometimes necessary. And leave aside whether $14,000 in 1985 was really such a shockingly low salary for someone recently out of college — in inflation-adjusted dollars, it’s about what we pay entry-level editorial assistants today at The Weekly Standard.</br><br></br><br>Obama’s point is that he went on to do good in Chicago — and that the college graduates to whom he’s speaking should follow in his exemplary footsteps. Of course, most politicians do admire themselves and their excellent careers. So perhaps one shouldn’t make too much of Obama’s sin of self-regard.</br><br></br><br>More striking is Obama’s sin of omission. In the rest of the speech, he goes on to detail — at some length — the “so many ways to serve” that are available “at this defining moment in our history.” There’s the Peace Corps, there’s renewable energy, there’s education, there’s poverty — there are all kinds of causes you can take up “should you take the path of service.” </br><br></br><br>But there’s one obvious path of service Obama doesn’t recommend — or even mention: military service. He does mention war twice: “At a time of war, we need you to work for peace.” And, we face “big challenges like war and recession.” But there’s nothing about serving your country in uniform.</br><br></br><br>It can’t be that the possibility of military service as an admirable form of public service didn’t occur to Obama. Only the day before, Obama had been squabbling with John McCain about veterans’ benefits. He said then, “Obviously I revere our soldiers and want to make sure they are being treated with honor and respect.”</br><br></br><br>And the day after the Wesleyan commencement, Obama was in New Mexico, where he read an eloquent and appropriate Memorial Day tribute to our fallen soldiers.</br><br></br><br>But at an elite Northeastern college campus, Obama obviously felt no need to disturb the placid atmosphere of easy self-congratulation. He felt no need to remind students of a different kind of public service — one that entails more risks than community organizing. He felt no need to tell the graduating seniors in the lovely groves of Middletown that they should be grateful to their peers who were far away facing dangers on behalf of their country</br><br></br><br>Nor did Obama choose to mention all those college graduates who are now entering the military, either for a tour of duty or as a career, in order to serve their country. He certainly felt no impulse to wonder whether the nation wouldn’t be better off if R.O.T.C. were more widely and easily available on elite college campuses.</br><br></br><br>Obama failed to challenge — even gently — what he must have assumed would be the prejudices of much of his audience and indulged in a soft patriotism of low expectations.</br><br></br><br>Was this a public service?</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968012" class="dsq-comment-message">Karmi,<br></br><br>Identity politics is what caused you to claim, ignorantly mind you, that Wright\'s and Cone\'s ideas about Black Liberation Theology were racism when they most definitely and demonstrably are not.</br><br></br><br>The IDENTITY POLITICS you promoted had you claiming VICTIMHOOD (for yourself perhaps) when none exists.  None exist by virtue of the ACTIONS  of Wright or Cone, etc. and none exist by virtue of KKK-like PREJUDICED words.</br><br></br><br>It\'s the ultimate in both HYPOCRISY and IDENTITY POLITICS for critics of Democrats or the identity politics of women and African-Americans to not only act offended by IMAGINED attacks against someone\'s IDENTITY but to have the nerve to act like it other people who engage in IDENTITY POLITICS when the basis of their criticism of women and African-Americans is based on an IDENTITY POLITICS paradigm perhaps of their (your) own.</br><br></br><br>So what we have here is some high-tech finger pointing with more HD fingers pointing right back at Republicans, etc. who gripe about the identity politics of others.</br><br></br><br>Republican rhetoric re: "illegal" immigration &gt;&gt;&gt; WHITE IDENTITY POLITICS.  Ask John Gibson and Bill O\'Reilly.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968013" class="dsq-comment-message">See Sagereaders excellent post on Jimmy Crow\'s Media.<br></br><br>http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968014" class="dsq-comment-message">Nquest,<br>Three questions:</br><br></br><br>1. Do you think that the result of the DNC\'s meeting this weekend was rooted in sexism?</br><br></br><br>2. If Clinton is given the nomination, do you think it would be a racist statement?</br><br></br><br>3. Do you deny that the democrats have played to the black populace by labeling Republicans as racist?</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968015" class="dsq-comment-message"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/02/nyregion/02gay.html?_r=2&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">Some of Harlem\'s Reaction to Gov. Paterson\'s Gay Marriage Decision</a></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968016" class="dsq-comment-message">Not nquest, but I\'ll take a stab at it:<br>1. Do you think that the result of the DNC\'s meeting this weekend was rooted in sexism?*****</br><br></br><br>HELL NO</br><br></br><br>If the shoe was on the OTHER FOOT (i.e. Hillpatine was winning the way that Obama is now)</br><br></br><br>The only thing we would have heard was</br><br></br><br>" You gotta follow the rules."</br><br></br><br>You know it. I know it. </br><br></br><br>This MI/FL BS would have been NON-EXISTENT. </br><br></br><br>Sorry d, I just don\'t believe it any other way. </br><br></br><br>2. If Clinton is given the nomination, do you think it would be a racist statement?****</br><br></br><br>HELL YES</br><br></br><br>Barack Obama follows THE RULES and wins the majority of the metric the DNC says will be used to determine a nominee - PLEDGED DELEGATES, and they STEAL IT AND GIVE IT TO HER? </br><br></br><br>Oh HELL YEAH, that\'s racism. </br><br></br><br></br><br></br><br>3. Do you deny that the democrats have played to the black populace by labeling Republicans as racist?**</br><br></br><br>Actually d, the GOP\'s done that all for themselves, with a little thing called \' The Southern Strategy\'.</br><br></br><br>THAT\'S WHY when Camp Hillpatine began to use it on Obama, so many Black folk knew it instinctively, long before the MSM would acknowledge it.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968017" class="dsq-comment-message">Nquest,<br> </br><br>I know...I know, that it is impossible for an <i>\'African-American\'</i> or <i>\'African-Americans\'</i> to be racist/s. Just ask Cone or Wright, huh.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968018" class="dsq-comment-message">Rikyrah,<br></br><br>The photo of the babies is too cute! Talk about precious!</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968019" class="dsq-comment-message">We often talk aobut the people whom we want to see the moment (GOD WILLING) Barack is to become the next POTUS.  After careful deliberation, ive constructed my top 10 list and will modify it, with the thoughts and views of many like us in the blogosphere. <br></br><br>10. <b>CNN\'S Lou Dobbs</b> </br><br>Not one positive Barack story on his show yet. Called Richardson endorsement, Barack pandering to hispanic commnity.  </br><br></br><br>9. <b>Rush Limbaugh.</b></br><br>The top RADIO Right Wing Nut who has said "I bet Bill and Hillary regret that Affirmative Action reform now."</br><br></br><br>8. <b>Ann Coulter.</b> </br><br>Flat out Bitch..Proffeisional Democrat Hit Job atist. </br><br></br><br>7. <b>Hillary Clinton.</b> </br><br>Im ready, McCains Ready, he gave a speech, and He cannot win Bill, he cannot win......</br><br></br><br>6. <b>CBC.</b> </br><br>They cut both ways. First when he does get it, I wanna see them shuffle around looking for excuses as to why they didnt support him. If he doesnt, then I wanna see there face, b/c they know the struggles facing our country, and to have someone represent not only them,  but people of this country en masse and not be white is tough.(considering every president this coun try has ever known has been white..)</br><br></br><br>5. <b>Geraldine Ferraro</b> </br><br>If he were white, he woulndt be this far. </br><br></br><br>4. <b>W.</b> </br><br>Thanks to him, this is all possible. Being  the worst POTUS ever, he pretty much made the Congress , the Senate, and his chair all turn blue, and in some cases, by margins that can potentially withstand a veto. He\'s even made the pick for VP in issue b/c of the actions of is corporate led, lobbyst tied vp in the past 8 yrs.</br><br></br><br>3. <b>Lanny Davis.</b> </br><br>I suspect he might vote for McCain. He now lives on Fox, unlike most Dem. surrogates bashes Barack repeatedly, and has chosen to raise the question in the Jewish community if Barack can be trusted. His math is flawed, and he supports a convention fight.</br><br></br><br>2. <b>Sean Hannity.</b></br><br>If there were no Sean Hannity, you might not have ever heard of Rev.Wright. To this very day, Hannity is doing his best to paint Barack as an Afro-Centrist who\'s to far "LEFT" and will put this country in harms way. I was raised not to hate people, but im about as close to hate that a person can have when it comes to Hannity.</br><br></br><br>1. <b>FOX NEWS.</b></br><br>The nomination of him, to me will signify the end of them. They pray on Democrats and push Right Wing Talking points 24/6 365. They hire Blue-dog/moderate dems whom they claim represent "balance" yet they fold to the right each and every time. I hope that if Baracks to win, he doesnt grant them 1 interview.  I hate this channel, I hate there, shows, and I hate the views and opinions expressed on that channel. </br><br></br><br></br><br>Those receiving Honorable mention and who can potentially enter the list. Howard Wolfson, Bill Clinton, Pat Buchanon, Wolf Blitzer, Laura Ingraham, Glenn Beck, Liz Trotta, and Ted Nugent</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968020" class="dsq-comment-message">d,<br></br><br>The anti-war crowd is going to stick with Obama, but remember Kos proclaiming not so long ago that the activist wing \'owns the party.\' My guess is that they will keep the pressure on Obama to keep his promise to pull out immediately. </br><br></br><br>He will try to backpedal out of his defeatist stance like he is trying (without success) to backpedal out of his \'no preconditions\' position on Iran.</br><br></br><br>This pressure from the far-left will allow McCain to keep and hold the center on Iraq and national security. He will accuse Obama of being excessively pessimistic, inflexible, unmoved by new facts, and unwilling to admit error. He will also point out Obama\'s foreign policy inexperience by emphasizing Obama\'s misunderstanding of history with regards to negotiating with Iran.</br><br></br><br>McCain staked out the center long ago, and as long as progress continues in Iraq, Obama will find it hard to claim any of it for his own.</br><br></br><br>smoothie,</br><br></br><br>Don\'t count your chickens before they\'re hatched...you\'ll end up with egg on your face.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968021" class="dsq-comment-message">A really interesting theory about the alleged Michelle Obama tape, which could explain a lot, from the  blog Booman Tribune. Michelle, offering a speech critical of President Bush, offers a refrain of "why\'d he" — the words "why did he" mushed together — that sounds like "whitey" on the tape.<br></br><br>Apparently, if the tape ever comes to light, her words will sound something like:</br><br></br><br>    Whitey cut folks off Medicaid?</br><br>    Whitey let New Orleans drown?</br><br>    Whitey do nothing about Jena?</br><br>    Whitey put us in Iraq for no reason?</br><br></br><br>...when the intended message is,</br><br></br><br>    Why\'d he cut folks off Medicaid?</br><br>    Why\'d he let New Orleans drown?</br><br>    Why\'d he do nothing about Jena?</br><br>    Why\'d he put us in Iraq for no reason?</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968022">smoothie</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968022" class="dsq-comment-message">D, Nquest, and Rikyrah,<br></br><br>I say again, I honestly believe that if Barack were in Hillary\'s position, we wouldnt have even got to the RBC. There\'s no doubt in my mind that he wouldve stopped his campaign post IN/NC. </br><br></br><br>I dont think he\'s the kind of person that would put his destiny in front of whats best for the party.  </br><br></br><br>I do however stand by Rikyrah\'s comments had this been the other way. But to add to it further, it would signify the end of blacks and the democratic party.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968023">D.</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968023" class="dsq-comment-message">Smoothie,<br>I take issue with your list....it\'s not fair and balanced.</br><br></br><br>We know that liberals pray for the downfall of Hannity, FOX News, Limbaugh, Coulter, etc daily. </br><br></br><br>You\'d be better off listing them under "right wing media" and calling it a day.</br><br></br><br>S,</br><br>If Obama pulls out when it\'s clear we\'re winning, he\'s not re-elected. One, that move would piss off a majority of the military/veteran establishment. Two, something would happen during his administration in Iraq/the Middle East that would cause him to, at the very least, throw cruise missiles there...which then leads to the "well, if we hadn\'t left, we wouldn\'t be doing this" argument.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968024">Sepia</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968024" class="dsq-comment-message">@ smoothie:<br><i>6. CBC.</i></br><br>They cut both ways. First when he does get it, I wanna see them shuffle around looking for excuses as to why they didnt support him.</br><br></br><br>Oh, but they already have. Donald Payne was on The Joe Madison Show this morning saying that he decided to support Hillary before he knew Obama was considering a run for the presidency. When he saw that Obama was a strong candidate, he decided to stay neutral.</br><br></br><br>I call bs. </br><br></br><br>1. Everybody knew Obama was going to run since his speech at the DNC in \'04. </br><br></br><br>2. It\'s not only about CBC supporting Hillary but it\'s also about them remaining SILENT when Hillary and Bill started race baiting. Payne thinks that his being neutral will give him a pass, but it doesn\'t. You weren\'t neutral, Mr. Payne. You were a COWARD.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968025">Anonymous</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968025" class="dsq-comment-message">d,<br></br><br>Are you assuming Obama will win with his current strategy, or that he will win if the anti-war left will allow him to move to the center?</br><br></br><br>If he wins, he will have to say in Iraq. Like it our not, our country\'s national security and stability is inextricably tied to the region and has been since the end of WWII.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968026">s</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968026" class="dsq-comment-message">Is Hillary taking this to the convention?</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968027">rikyrah</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968027" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>I say again, I honestly believe that if Barack were in Hillary\'s position, we wouldnt have even got to the RBC. There\'s no doubt in my mind that he wouldve stopped his campaign post IN/NC. <br></br></i><br></br><br>If this were flipped, and Obama had lost ELEVEN IN A ROW...</br><br></br><br>It wouldn\'t have even gotten to IN/NC. </br><br></br><br>Chuck Todd said the night of the WISCONSIN PRIMARY that, mathematically, THIS WAS OVER. </br><br></br><br>He said it, that night, with regards to PLEDGED DELEGATES.</br><br></br><br>Since then, this has been the MSM in collusion with the FRAUD of Camp Hillpatine. </br><br></br><br>The math has been the math since WISCONSIN. </br><br></br><br>And, if the situations were reversed, ALLLLL we would have heard post Wisconsin, was about THE MATH.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968028">D.</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968028" class="dsq-comment-message">Anon 8:42,<br>His current strategy loses. Plain and simple.</br><br></br><br>Any modification to his current strategy <b>might</b> lose as well. You can only do so much "clarification" when you position from day one has been that we should\'ve left Iraq.</br><br></br><br></br><br>On the tape...talk about the semantics argument from hell: if Michelle comes off as asking questions "why\'d he" is a valid assumption to what she\'s saying. If they come off as statements, however.....</br><br></br><br>Rikyrah/Smoothie,</br><br>Saw your answers....waiting for Nquest\'s before I respond.....</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968029">Jonzee</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968029" class="dsq-comment-message">While my own jury is still out on Mr. Ford. I do look at his run for Congress as an interesting case study in the "beating the street" that Obama will need to do going forward to win this thing. <br></br><br><a hfref="http://www.newsweek.com/id/138511" rel="nofollow">Here is an op-ed in Newsweek discussing strategy for taking the states in the south.&gt;</a></br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968030">Pamela</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968030" class="dsq-comment-message">If you, the people who frequently comment on this board and those who don\'t could start a new political party from the ground up what would be your top issue or goal?</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968031">justice58</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968031" class="dsq-comment-message">Smoothie,<br></br><br>Don\'t forget Joe Scarborough!</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968032">smoothie</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968032" class="dsq-comment-message">Rikyrah, <br></br><br>I purposly left off the Wis. issue. Even though the math clearly proved it was over, just in the slight chance that she mounted her 10 st. comeback I figured the arguement to stay in wouldve continued.</br><br></br><br>Sepia</br><br>Sadly none of the CBC face heavy competition in there chairs thus they will continue to mis-represent us. </br><br></br><br>D. </br><br>Much like the Right say\'s left wing media when slamming any and all who dont agree with them. They even take it a step further and say the entire media is LEFT..Even though FOX and certain elements of CNN lean clearly right. Plus my list has people on the left on it...I doubt if you run a list for McCains you would put that much from the right..(ron paul, barr do not count)</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968033">D.</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968033" class="dsq-comment-message">Smoothie,<br>It\'s not just Fox News that says there\'s a liberal media bias: Rasmussen had a poll on it last week (I\'ll link as soon as I can find it in my email....).</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968034">Torrance Stephens bka All-Mi-T</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968034" class="dsq-comment-message">is bob barr <a href="http://rawdawgb.blogspot.com/2008/05/quicksand-in-passing.html" rel="nofollow">passing</a></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968035">Sepia</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968035" class="dsq-comment-message">Recent revelations that the media worked with the Bush Administration to promote this war shows that the liberal media label is false.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968036">Diana</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968036" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'m with krk, the photo is totally creeping me out and I\'m the mom that used to pull "ripe, ready to eat" stickers off melons in the grocery store & stick \'em on my four babies just to watch people\'s reactions</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968037">ambboogie</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968037" class="dsq-comment-message">Check out our take on the DNC meeting and latest developments re: Obama and Hillary:<br></br><br><a href="http://ohellnawl.wordpress.com/2008/06/02/hillary-supporters-o-hellllll-nawl/" rel="nofollow">O HELL NAWL Hillary Supporters!</a></br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968038">KarmiCommunist</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968038" class="dsq-comment-message">Rock and Roll Hall of Famer Bo Diddley has died, here in FL...</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968039">Nquest</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968039" class="dsq-comment-message">Poor, poor Karmi,<br></br><br>I know, I know... YOU CAN\'T DEFEND YOUR POSITION!!  You can\'t show how Wright\'s or Cone\'s quoted statements amount to KKK-like racism. And even more, you can\'t deny the IDENTITY POLITICS the fingerpointers pointing at women and African-Americans engage in in the process of bemoaning their identity politics.</br><br></br><br>I mean, these are the people who brought you THE ANGRY WHITE MALE.  WTF is that but IDENTITY POLITICS?</br><br></br><br>WTF is your non-response but a TAP OUT!!  Silly Rabbit.  Save those dummie tricks for kids.</br><br></br><br>The problem is you DON\'T KNOW, DON\'T KNOW.  And you didn\'t know what the hell you were getting into, dumbazz.</br><br></br><br>Neither Wright nor Cone espoused the racism/prejudice you claimed they did.  That\'s why you\'re all choked up.  Nothin\' but SHORT POSTS now AND ignorant, and dare I say PREJUDICED, assumptions from you now.</br><br></br><br>I know, I know.... I know I didn\'t say "it\'s impossible for African-Americans to be racist."</br><br></br><br></br><br>ENOUGH SAID!!</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968040">s</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968040" class="dsq-comment-message">True liberal media bias can be found, not among the talking heads, commentors, pundits and editorial pages, who make no attempt to hide their bias, but buried deep in articles and stories that are supposed to be pure \'news\'.<br></br><br>The mischaracterization, exaggeration or omission of facts in order to advance a narrative based on the political leanings of writers and producers in order to support the ideology or agenda of a particular political party undermines the credibility of news organizations.</br><br></br><br>For example, let\'s take the economy:</br><br></br><br>FACT: Real gross domestic product -- the output of goods and services produced by labor and property</br><br>located in the United States -- increased at an annual rate of 0.9 percent in the first quarter of 2008,</br><br>according to preliminary estimates released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis.  In the fourth quarter,</br><br>real GDP increased 0.6 percent.</br><br></br><br>FACT: This data shows an INCREASE in the GDP.</br><br></br><br>FACT: In macroeconomics, a recession is generally associated with a decline in a country\'s real gross domestic product (GDP), or negative real economic growth, for two or more successive quarters of a year.</br><br></br><br>So, a clear look at the numbers, coupled with the definition of recession, would show that the US economy is NOT in a recession. The FACT is, the economy GREW.</br><br></br><br>Yet, the media is responsible for reinforcing the notion that the US economy is \'slipping into a recession\' or \'may slip into a recession,\' or already IS in a recession.</br><br></br><br>Why is a negative perception of the economy advanced by the media?</br><br></br><br>Why does the media attempt to lead viewers, readers and listeners to draw an incorrect conclusion?</br><br></br><br>Politically, who benefits from news of economic growth?</br><br></br><br>There are countless \'news\' stories that choose to interject analysis and lead readers, listeners and viewers to conclusions that benefit a particular political ideology, party or agenda.</br><br></br><br>Why not just allow news consumers to absorb and process the facts and draw their own conclusions?</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968041">D.</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968041" class="dsq-comment-message">Nquest,<br>Come back!! Still waiting for answers!!</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968042">Nquest</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968042" class="dsq-comment-message">D, unless you want to talk about IDENTITY POLITICS and who practices it (i.e. the issue I took up with Karmi), then you can STFU talking to me.<br></br><br>I don\'t do that "let me frame this argument for you" stuff your lame, telegraphin\', skill-less azz can\'t help but do.  </br><br></br><br>Put more diplomatically... I don\'t believe I\'ve ever talked Democrats and Republicans with you and I know I\'ve spoken against your need to cast people in your ignorant right vs. left dichotomy just so you can have something to speak against.</br><br></br><br>Let me tell you something you should have figured out long ago.  My motto is:</br><br></br><br>F-ck A Democrat and MuthaF-ck A Gottdamn Republican.</br><br></br><br>So what the hell do you think a question about labeling Republicans as racists means to me when my pov on Reps and Dems is that of Malcolm X\'s noted "wolf vs. fox" idea.</br><br></br><br>Know who the hell you\'re speaking to and know that you have no conversation with me when you\'re stuck on that stupid sh*t.  </br><br></br><br>Like a trip to Japan, your country azz better learn language.  We don\'t speak dillbilly here, at least I don\'t.</br><br></br><br></br><br></br><br>Sorry, Rikyrah.   I\'ll be nice from now on.  :)</br></div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-1968043" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968043">Ronnie B</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968043" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>Politically, who benefits from news of economic growth?</i><br></br><br>Black folks who are applying for SBA loans and corporate grants.</br><br></br><br>So holla at a brotha when the economic news turns good ... we needs to catch that hook up.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968044">D.</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968044" class="dsq-comment-message">Nquest,<br>Actually, that time, I just wanted to know what you thought.</br><br></br><br>For all your talk about "lame and skill-less," I have yet to see you answer a question in something resembling a thought-out matter.</br><br></br><br>But if that\'s your MO, hey, what can I say? :)</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968045">Sepia</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968045" class="dsq-comment-message">Where is Amy Holmes? <br></br><br>I\'ve noticed she has been missing from cable news networks for a couple of months. Has she been fired?</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968046" class="dsq-comment-message">So to Rikyrah/Smoothie....<br></br><br>I didn\'t see anything sexist about what the DNC came up with. Really, I\'m not sure how you could jump to that particular conclusion.</br><br></br><br>Giving the nomination to Clinton would be strategically stupid. Would it be racist? Were she viable, maybe. Since she\'s not-by anyone\'s account, at this point-I\'m not sure. Of course, then you could argue that because she\'s <i>not</i> viable, it can\'t be anything BUT racism.</br><br></br><br>Yeah, the use of the Southern Strategy hasn\'t really helped the GOP shed its historically racist image. I wonder, though (which would\'ve been question #4), how much the DNC\'s throwing the racism flag around is an attempt to cover up their own racial issues, which are being brought to the spotlight by Clinton/Obama.</br><br></br><br>For all the talk about the GOP being inherently "racist," at least their position is (somewhat) clear: they\'ll take the black vote if they can; if not, they don\'t feel they need it.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968047" class="dsq-comment-message">D, wasn\'t it you who felt compelled to tell me you were a conservative?<br></br><br>See, that\'s the dillbilly in you.</br><br></br><br></br><br>(1) Answer question with a Chris Matthews question:  </br><br>When and where has any of the claims of sexism shown in the polls and, more importantly, the voting?  The DNC meeting was about how to recognize votes via compromise to be fair to both candidates. </br><br></br><br>Just like your left-right bs.  Such a DUMB AZZ QUESTION does not compute with me. WTF are you talking about?  Sexism?  WHERE?  HOW?  </br><br></br><br>Say what you think or STFU!</br><br></br><br></br><br>(2) See Rikyrah\'s substance based response and learn how to speak the language.  Dillbilly is not accepted.  With all of the statements made by party officials about the tone of the campaign and wanting to wrap this primary season up as soon as possible ALL during times when Obama was clearly in the lead... Well, your question just doesn\'t even make sense; for one, because I don\'t play hypothetical games with someone I was NOT having a conversation with.</br><br></br><br>Ask me a question about something I say.  Not about some script you come to this blog with.  I don\'t speak dillbilly.</br><br></br><br></br><br>(3) See above (both my statement on your left-right bs AND "no scripts allowed" part printed directly above).  </br><br></br><br>Hmmm...  Let\'s see... When have I made a statement on any topic about what Democrats or any other group/org. "have played to the Black populace" for or on how either Democrats or Republicans are labeled?</br><br></br><br>Repeated for you digestion:</br><br></br><br><b>Ask me a question about something I say.  Not about some script you come to this blog with. </b></br><br></br><br>This is your official notice that your question asking privileges with me are revoked due to a known history of your script wielding and non-reciprocation.</br><br></br><br>I believe it was you who just up and told me you were a conservative (like I gave a damn).  During that time, I know I asked you several questions ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID.  I\'m selfish like that.  I expect you to be like me and keep your mf statements to WHAT I SAY.</br><br></br><br>I am not a stand in for some generic Democrat LABEL you want to attach or any of your ignorant "well, someone I\'d group with you said it, so let me ask you about them" type of bs.  I expect people who engage me to have more skill and less dill.</br><br></br><br>FYI</br><br></br><br></br><br>________________</br><br></br><br>PS:  </br><br></br><br>A successful "call-out" occurs when someone points out an actual hypocrisy, inconsistency, contradiction, etc. in a person\'s position, ask the person to address and that person doesn\'t because they don\'t want to own up to their contradictions, etc.</br><br></br><br>Don\'t try to grandstand with me, dillbilly, when none of those elements are there for you to be "waiting" on my answers.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968048" class="dsq-comment-message"><b>Actually, that time, I just wanted to know what you thought</b><br></br><br>Which is to say, all other times your MO is such that you deserve every last STFU you get.</br><br></br><br>Personally, I don\'t give a damn if you "want to know what I think."  Part of that is because of your MO.  The other part is I don\'t speak Dillbilly or practice Dillbilly culture.</br><br></br><br>These strange ways of soliciting people\'s opinions you have with your bs script in hand is foreign to me and, actually, a sign of poor your backward was.</br><br></br><br>Perhaps a "Nquest, I was wondering what you thought about X and here is why" would help.  That\'s just the way I get down.  You, you\'re stuck on that alien stupid sh*t.  Like I give a f-ck about your Republican vs. Democrat construct.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968049">charles lawlesss</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968049" class="dsq-comment-message">I was also wondering if Ron Paul did or didnt endorse Barr? How does Paul feel about Wayne Root.? Did Paul endorse or oppose Root? IS Paul thinking about a vp spot with Barr? Ive been looking everywhere for this info. Can find it. They have a couple of videos at <a href="http://www.BarrRoot.com" rel="nofollow">www.BarrRoot.com</a> but nothing about Paul. The Barr/Root ticket is going to fail without paul. I read an article about Ron Paul maybe being a vp or vice ( veep ) on the libertarian ticket? Would this mean the LP will drop Root and run Bar and Ron Paul? Its a pretty good article but I dont know how true it is. Here is the Link <a href="http://www.BarrRoot08.com" rel="nofollow">www.BarrRoot08.com</a></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968050" class="dsq-comment-message">Nquest,<br>Dude, it\'s not even that serious.</br><br></br><br>More than likely, this is the point in the conversation where you attempt to claim that you\'ve shut me down. That train\'s never late.</br><br></br><br>So, to assuage your probably somewhat fractured ego, you can have this one. I hope this small victory makes up for some incident of neglect somewhere. Besides, I like to actually try to learn something when I read here.</br><br></br><br>Let\'s agree to not agree-on anything-and just go from here.</br><br></br><br>Sorry if this offends anyone....</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968051" class="dsq-comment-message">Question for D, in the spirit of his question to me:<br><b></b></br><br>What do you have to say about the Willie Horton and Welfare Queen racists tactics employed by Republicans/conservatives?</br><br></br><br></br><br>You mentioned the DNC meeting:</br><br><b></b></br><br>Do you think anything like that would ever happen in the Republican party?  (The other historically racist White political party).</br><br></br><br></br><br>_____________________________</br><br></br><br><b>Also, what do you think about the Republicans lack of respect for African-American voters when the best they can do to try to attract African-Americans voters back to the party they once belonged to in large numbers with WEDGE ISSUE politics that has no regard for the full slate of issues important to African-Americans and the priority at which the Black political consensus places those issues?</b></br><br></br><br></br><br>I mean, I\'ve heard current Black Republicans from Lynn Swann to Wayne Perryman express their displeasure with the curious lack of support they get from their White Republican party brethren when they, of all people, should be the ones supported in their efforts to increase the number of Black Republicans.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968052" class="dsq-comment-message"><a href="http://roadkillpolitics.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://roadkillpolitics.blogspot.com/</a></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968053" class="dsq-comment-message"><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/02/clinton-summons-top-donor_n_104715.html" rel="nofollow">Clinton Summons Top Donors, Supporters For Tuesday Speech</a><br></br><br><i> Obama and Clinton spoke Sunday night and agreed that their staffs should begin negotiations over post-primary activities. In addition to help raising money to pay off some $20 million-plus in debts, <b>Clinton is known to want Obama to help out black officials who endorsed her and are now taking constituent heat, including, in some cases, primary challenges from pro-Obama politicians.</b> </i></br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968054" class="dsq-comment-message"><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Vote2008/story?id=4978604&amp;page=1" rel="nofollow">Obama Religious Ties Are \'Manna From Heaven\' for GOP</a><br></br><br><i>Racial Uproar Reignited Could Threaten Obama\'s Chances in November</i></br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968055" class="dsq-comment-message">D, <br></br><br>You\'re speaking Dillbilly again.  It\'s not that hard:</br><br></br><br><i>"Nquest, I was wondering what you thought about X and here is why"</i></br><br></br><br>That would help me understand and "learn" where you are coming from.  But don\'t let the conviction door knob hit you.  Your type litters the internet.  You want to frame the debate and lots of people are stuck on left-right stupid just like you and what you do is constantly what they do.</br><br></br><br>You act like this is Crossfire of something where person X is the representative for the Democrats and has to answer for what Democrats do and you\'re dillbilly Y , the right-leaning moderator dishing out the questions.</br><br></br><br></br><br>  And with the way you and S carry on... Ya\'ll put fractured "us against the world" egos on the map.</br><br></br><br></br><br>((((More than likely, this is the point in the conversation)))</br><br></br><br>Silly Dillbilly.  That was the whole point.  I was not engaged in a conversation with you and your questions didn\'t engage the conversation I was having.</br><br></br><br>Simply put, there was no conversation and, speaking dillybilly, you have no conversation for me.</br><br></br><br>This is not that hard:</br><br></br><br><b>Ask me a question about something I say. Not about some script you come to this blog with. </b></br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968056" class="dsq-comment-message">Nquest,<br>I suppose I should copy and paste your responses to me to answer your question.</br><br></br><br>(Before you flip, chil. You deserved that.)</br><br></br><br>Question 1: I acknowledge those things happened. I don\'t make an attempt to apologize for them or explain them away. Personally, I disagree with those tactics.</br><br></br><br>Question 2: Hell, no. Under no circumstances. If a Republican tried that stunt, they\'d be laughed out of the party.</br><br></br><br>Question 3: I\'ve said before that I don\'t think the Republican Party doesn\'t respects the African American electorate. I think that the conservative message-you can have the world, <b>IF</b> you\'re willing to work for it-flies in the face of some African Americans because it forces them to look at the world outside of their own existence.</br><br></br><br>Thoughts, comments, or-in your case-cuss words?</br><br></br><br>At least I\'m getting a laugh from all this. :)</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968057" class="dsq-comment-message">D sez:<br><i>I\'ve said before that I don\'t think the Republican Party doesn\'t respects the African American electorate. I think that the conservative message-you can have the world, IF you\'re willing to work for it-flies in the face of some African Americans because it forces them to look at the world outside of their own existence.</i></br><br></br><br>I know that Republicans prefer to condescendingly offer the "if you work hard ..." line based upon the default presumption that Black people don\'t work hard, but D ...</br><br></br><br>I\'m surprised you trotted that out here.  At JJP.  With educated and well-read Black (and White and Brown) people.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968058" class="dsq-comment-message">nquest, rikyrah, d, et al,<br></br><br>Sexism does not need to actually exist in this primary, in order for women to feel that Hillary has been treated unfairly.</br><br></br><br>An entire generation of women have been raised on the notion that this country is sexist, and that this sexism is endemic. Women have been oppressed, disadvantaged and excluded from main-stream politics, corporate boardrooms, etc. PRIMARILY because of sexism. They have spent their lives viewing the world through this prism. </br><br></br><br>Feminism as a social movement, is different from left-wing or fundamentalist Christian activism, in that politics and personal being  are virtually inseparable. So, through this self-designated identity, an attack on Hillary is seen as an attack on all women. </br><br></br><br>This is key to understanding the difference between identity politics on the left and right. </br><br></br><br>On the right,one may CHOOSE, as an INDIVIDUAL, to join the NRA or the Praise the Lord Club. </br><br></br><br>Not so on the left. One is, simply by the circumstances of one\'s birth, a member of a marginalized, group. By and large identity politics has depended on a rhetoric of blame, the illocutionary effects of which are designed to chastise the target (for being unjust, prejudiced, inhumane, selfish, oppressive, and/or violent). </br><br></br><br>So viewing the primary through the Democrat feminist prism we can acknowledge that in exchange for their support, women were PROMISED equality and the party is OBLIGATED to make good on its promise. But here comes the young turk, Obama, first and foremost, A MAN, with obvious charm and style, but, in their view, no experience, leap frogging over the woman who has been paying her dues, taking s***, but working hard because she has been PROMISED BY THE PARTY that Democrats will elect a WOMAN.</br><br></br><br>But now this promise is competing and conflicting with another promise, the implied promise that the democrats will elect a BLACK president.</br><br></br><br>Such is the trap of identity politics and the Democrat party has put itself in the position of promising the same job to two equally deserving candidates.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968059" class="dsq-comment-message">Ronnie,<br>I\'ve said that before. </br><br></br><br>And if you were to ask, I\'d say that the statement doesn\'t apply to JJP\'s readers, based on my conversations here. With a few changes to the details of the conservative message, I\'d bet a lot more of the readers here would consider themselves conservative.</br><br></br><br>That said, there is still a segment of the population that it does apply to.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968060" class="dsq-comment-message">And I\'m laughing at how utterly inane your question (#3) was.<br></br><br>But maybe you can explain why you asked the question and how it\'s supposed to make sense when you acknowledge how the Republican party uses racist tactics and, beyond that, have little regard/appreciation for the world the African-American electorate lives in.</br><br></br><br>Simply, what was the point of your original question (#3)?  How exactly would the Black populace by "played" by a "label" that fits just what you acknowledged as the facts about the Republican party?</br><br></br><br>You have got to know that I don\'t do self-loathing.  So I\'m trying to figure out your point and laughing won\'t help you make it.  As it stands now, your question was baseless on 2 counts.</br><br></br><br>(1)  It had no basis or reason for being asked based on something I said about the racism of the Republican party or Blacks being played by the Democrat party.  No.  There was no such conversation going on at the time.</br><br></br><br>(2) Your idea that the Black populace being played assumed that the label didn\'t fit or you have some explaining to do.  What was your point?  To try to use my answer to #2 as something that was supposed to be a revelation to me in #3?</br><br></br><br>Seriously... you have got to have more skills than that.  Something other than your ignorant left-right assumptions.</br><br></br><br></br><br>And what happened to the sexism conversation?  And what was the </br><br>"Come back!! Still waiting for answers!!" stuff all about?</br><br></br><br>What\'s that?  Dillbilly-speak for "I just wanted to know what you thought."</br><br></br><br>Oh and my motto, it counts for card carrying liberals and conservatives too.</br><br></br><br>Get a clue.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968061" class="dsq-comment-message">ronnie b,<br></br><br>Given my take on the identity politics that exists within the Democrat party, I do not think that d is off base.</br><br></br><br>The Republican party is speaking to indivduals, and in exchange for their support, is offering individuals, not a group, opportunity and success. </br><br></br><br>You assert that d\'s comments about working hard implies that ALL black people do not work hard.  You thereby are unable to separate yourself from the self-designated group. Some blacks work hard, others do not, yet rather than separate the group in that way, you choose to accuse d of making a mass generalization.</br><br></br><br>Until black people CHOOSE party affiliation based on their INDIVIDUAL reasons and impulses, they will always feel more \'at home\' in the Democrat party.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968062" class="dsq-comment-message">Clinton is known to want Obama to help out black officials who endorsed her and are now taking constituent heat, including, in some cases, primary challenges from pro-Obama politicians. <br>----------------</br><br></br><br>Hell to the naw.  Obama should not endorse anyone and let the chips fall where they may.  You had black Clinton surrogates sitting on CNN, etc. aiding and abetting the race baiting, in some cases actively participating in it (Tubbs Jones), but Clinton wants Obama to "save" them?  So they can sabotage him from the halls of Congress?  No, if the will of the people is that Tubbs Jones and her ilk have to be swept away, so be it.  I\'m not mad that they supported Clinton; that\'s their right.  I\'m mad they sat back while she and her campaign all but said the N-word and they just laughed and cackled and defended that crap like they were the 2008 version of ManTan and Sleep N Eat.  Naw, they gotta go.  Good riddance.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968063" class="dsq-comment-message"><b>With a few changes to the details of the conservative message, I\'d bet a lot more of the readers here would consider themselves conservative.</b><br></br><br>Black people already consider themselves conservatives based on their own cultural messages and values.  Everywhere I go on the net, Black people make the distinction between being socially conservative vs. party/politically conservative.  So wth are you talking about?</br><br></br><br>You feeling lonely?  :)</br><br></br><br></br><br>And why are you concerned about the conservative message?  Why not get Afrocentric with it and speak Black people\'s "special human truth" (that has due regard for all the Black particulars) instead of hoping someone else will change their message for you or whatever your "change details" comment entailed?</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968064" class="dsq-comment-message">This just in from the Huffington Post <br> </br><br></br><br>Thomas B. Edsall</br><br>The Huffington Post</br><br>Clinton Summons Top Donors, Supporters For Tuesday Speech</br><br>stumble digg reddit del.ico.us news trust buzz up June 2, 2008 02:24 PM </br><br>Hillary Clinton has summoned top donors and backers to attend her New York speech tomorrow night in an unusual move that is being widely interpreted to mean she plans to suspend her campaign and endorse Barack Obama.</br><br></br><br>Obama and Clinton spoke Sunday night and agreed that their staffs should begin negotiations over post-primary activities, according to reliable sources. In addition to seeking Obama\'s help in raising money to pay off some $20 million-plus in debts, Clinton is known to want Obama to assist black officials who endorsed her and who are now taking constituent heat, including, in some cases, primary challenges from pro-Obama politicians.</br><br></br><br>"This has never happened before," one donor said, referring to the personalized request by email to attend the event in New York Tuesday night.</br><br></br><br>Obama is expected to claim enough delegates to put him over the top that night at a separate event in Minneapolis.</br><br></br><br>Earlier in the day it was reported that Clinton staffers were being urged by the campaign\'s finance department "to turn in their outstanding expense receipts by the end of the week," another sign that the run at the White House was nearing an end. In addition, Politico wrote that members of Clinton\'s advance staff had received calls and emails Sunday night, summoning them to New York City and telling them their roles on the campaign are ending.</br><br>-----------------------------</br><br>I say help with her debts no Vice President and as far as her African American super delegates Stephanie Tubbs Jones HAS GOT TO GO.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968065" class="dsq-comment-message">Not sure if anyone\'s mentioned this, but. . . <br></br><br>For what it\'s worth, HuffPo says all signs point to this thing ending tomorrow. . . </br><br></br><br><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/02/clinton-summons-top-donor_n_104715.html" rel="nofollow">Clinton Expected to Suspend Campaign and Endorse Obama</a></br><br></br><br>Again, I\'ll believe it when I see it.  This is ONLY speculation.</br><br></br><br>But the report says all signs suggest she\'s prepared to make a big speech tomorrow night in her home state of NY.</br><br></br><br>Sources say she\'s negotiating post-primary activities with the Obama campaign.  She has no plans past Wednesday, and she\'s in continued discussions with Obama to help repay some of her debt.</br><br></br><br>Also ***and isn\'t this an interesting nugget*** she apparently wants Obama\'s help to give her black supporters (think Stephanie Tubbs-Jones-types) cover when they go back for re-election.</br><br></br><br>Again, take it for what it\'s worth.  We\'ve seen these stories before only to have her do a 180 at the last minute.</br><br></br><br>I\'ll keep my fingers crossed.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968066" class="dsq-comment-message">@djchefron,<br></br><br>LOL. . . Dang!  You beat me to it.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968067">D.</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968067" class="dsq-comment-message">Nquest,<br>So with that said-that black people already consider themselves socially conservative-why do you think they align with the democratic party, if it flies in the face of what they believe?</br><br></br><br>I\'m not concerned with "the conservative message." Hell, most conservatives don\'t know what THE conservative message is anymore (that\'s a problem in itself, but a different discussion). </br><br></br><br>To me, conservatism has no "special human truth" for black people or anyone else. The message is simple: the government will provide for your basic rights, welfare, and security. What the individual-regardless or race or any other aspect-does with those provisions is up to them. What the government will NOT do is hold your hand/breast feed you (whichever anology better shows the point).</br><br></br><br>Glad we\'re civil again...thought I was gonna have to challenge you to a boxing match. :)</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968068" class="dsq-comment-message">I just had this mental picture of Obama supporters as Munchkins in the Land of Oz gearing up to sing, "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead."<br></br><br>Obama, inside his \'magic bubble\' will come to their aid and will be greeted with effusive adulation by the adoring throngs...</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968069">Nquest</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968069" class="dsq-comment-message"><b>Until black people CHOOSE party affiliation based on their INDIVIDUAL reasons and impulses, they will always feel more \'at home\' in the Democrat party.</b><br></br><br></br><br>The flip side of that, keeping D\'s "change details" idea in mind:</br><br></br><br>The Republican party will never attract a significant amount of Black voters until they drop that European based focus on INDIVIDUALISM.  That\'s part of that lack of respect for the culture and things African-Americans deem import.  </br><br></br><br>Hell, there are even polls that stipulate to it.  And it\'s not like Black people have a dying need to be Republican.  Black people want political efficacy and a chance to be able to influence the political process that has so much influence over their lives.</br><br></br><br>What you saw at the DNC rules committee was, with the number of Black members on the committee, was the chance to do that, no matter how the chips fell.</br><br></br><br>By your comments, S... I can safely guess that you\'re not a <a href="http://bookerrising.blogspot.com/2004/12/booker-rising-commentary.html" rel="nofollow">Bookerista</a>.  They seem to understand this back cultural concept.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968070" class="dsq-comment-message">" s said... <br>A really interesting theory about the alleged Michelle Obama tape, which could explain a lot, from the blog Booman Tribune. Michelle, offering a speech critical of President Bush, offers a refrain of "why\'d he" — the words "why did he" mushed together — that sounds like "whitey" on the tape.</br><br></br><br>Apparently, if the tape ever comes to light, her words will sound something like:</br><br></br><br>Whitey cut folks off Medicaid?</br><br>Whitey let New Orleans drown?</br><br>Whitey do nothing about Jena?</br><br>Whitey put us in Iraq for no reason?</br><br></br><br>...when the intended message is,</br><br></br><br>Why\'d he cut folks off Medicaid?</br><br>Why\'d he let New Orleans drown?</br><br>Why\'d he do nothing about Jena?</br><br>Why\'d he put us in Iraq for no reason?</br><br></br><br>Mon Jun 02, 08:27:00 AM 2008"</br><br></br><br>You\'re missing the point...why in the hell would a Harvard educated attorney and professional and the wife of a US Senator and presidential candidate sit on a panel alongside one of the most controversial figures in the United States to discuss highly charged racial issues and speak in a manner beneath the dignity of herself and her own accomplishments and position but especially her husbands?!  It doesn\'t matter if she was ranting "whitey" or "why\'d he", it would be an act of sabotage or mind-blowing stupidity!  </br><br></br><br>I\'ve had friends/family suggest that she has been attempting to undermine his candidacy, perhaps subconsciously, with her numerous ill advised comments, but this would be inarguably deliberate and completely unforgivable. </br><br></br><br>While I join the chorus of Black voices who decry the undue scrutiny and double standards the media has subjected Senator Obama to with respect to his church, I would be lying if I said I wasn\'t more than a little pissed with the Obamas for not realizing what scrutiny the church and other associations would bring.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968071" class="dsq-comment-message">Nquest,<br>What issues do you feel are important to the African American community that the GOP doesn\'t respect/pay attention to/etc?</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968072">Anonymous</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968072" class="dsq-comment-message">S,<br>Peharps the reason why so many intelligent African-Americans push for policies that benefit the whole group as opposed to just themselves is that reality of African-Americans both historically and currently is different from white America.  We can talk about individuality till we are blue in the face, but the fact remains that when Britney Spears or M&M; does something outlandish it is NOT a reflection on White America.  But when 50 cents does something outlandish it is apparently a reflection on black America.  I personally do not agree with that mind set, but just because I do not agree with it does not mean that is not the case.</br><br></br><br>Unfortunately, African-Americans are not percieved on their own individual merits, they are perceived by the words and actions of other African-Americans.  This is why Obama is not being judged by his words, both written and verbal, or by his actions.  Rather he is being judged by the words of Reverend Wright et al.</br><br></br><br>Junglecat</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968073" class="dsq-comment-message">D, your question doesn\'t make sense.  I already indicated why by the very question I asked you.  Republicans employ WEDGE ISSUES that have "no regard for the full slate of issues important to African-Americans and the priority at which the Black political consensus places those issues."<br></br><br>Like I just said, they even have polls stipulating to it and the INDIVIDUALISM bs ain\'t happening.  It\'s a "cruel jest", as MLK would say, to present INDIVIDUALISM as a policy response or "solution" for something the group, not just individuals, were/are subjected to.</br><br></br><br>Obviously you were trying to FRAME the issue your way once again when there was no mistaking what I was saying in terms of the GOP not respecting the full range of issues important to African-Americans.</br><br></br><br>And your question damn sure makes no sense when you have to talk about "changing the details of the White conservative message."  What part of the distinction don\'t you understand?</br><br></br><br>I most definitely didn\'t say the Democratic party "flies in the face of what they believe."  I insisted that there is a range of issues important to African-Americans who don\'t just believe in things socially conservative.  They also believe in social justice.</br><br></br><br>There is no contradiction there.  So why are you puzzled and what\'s makes it so hard for you to keep up?</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968074" class="dsq-comment-message">nquest,<br></br><br>Black people make the distinction between being socially conservative vs. party/politically conservative. </br><br>_____________________________________</br><br></br><br>If more black voter were to align themselves more as individuals, based on their \'social conservatism\', thereby joining the Republican party, I think we would being to see the end of divisive partisan politics.</br><br></br><br>I am not proposing that we abandon the discourses of oppression, justice, equality, rights and so on but through our shared interests as individuals that we can reform education by promoting school choice, stimulate economic advancement and the accumulation of wealth through low taxes and limited government, save the environment by encouraging our free markets to meet our demand for more efficient and independent sources of energy, etc.</br><br></br><br>The biggest gap in our country is partisan and it is due in large part by the prominent role of identity politics in the governing process.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968075" class="dsq-comment-message">If more black voter were to align themselves more as individuals, based on their \'social conservatism\', thereby joining the Republican party, I think we would being to see the end of divisive partisan politics.<br></br><br>--------------------</br><br></br><br>In other words, it\'s black folks\' fault there are partisan politics.  If only black people would come on over to the Republicans, partisan politics would cease to exist.</br><br></br><br>OK.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968076" class="dsq-comment-message"><b>Unfortunately, African-Americans are not percieved on their own individual merits...</b><br></br><br>That\'s some irony for your azz and some bs too.</br><br></br><br>What you just described is a no win situation.  The very people INDIVIDUALISM is preached to just can\'t be considered, as you say, on their own individual merits.</br><br></br><br>Do you even understand the words (from both statements) that are coming out of your mouth?</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968077" class="dsq-comment-message">Nquest,<br>Here we go....again:</br><br></br><br>Let\'s talk about framing: did I say that you said "flies in the face of what they believe?" No, <b><i>I said that it flies in the face of what they believe</i></b>.</br><br></br><br>My question for you, then, was this: </br><br></br><br><b><i>If black people consider themselves-as you suggested-socially conservative-why would they then choose to associate with a political party that does not-as I suggested-hold any beliefs that would be considered socially conservative?</i></b></br><br></br><br>I\'m starting to think I have to speak slowly for you.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968078" class="dsq-comment-message">The GOP needs to stop supporting policies that do not meet the needs of Black people.  Social conservatives in the Black community are not the same as social conservative in the white community.  <br></br><br>Black social conservatives know sometimes police act based on prejudice.  White social conservatives believe the police are always right.  Black social conservatives want the Black under employed to be educated and have good jobs.  White social conservatives want to help the deserving poor.  Some White social conservatives believe the confederate flag is no big deal.   Black social conservatives ...,  Well, you get my drift.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968079" class="dsq-comment-message">D you\'re back to your LAME AZZ, Dillbilly framing again:<br></br><br><b>So with that said-that black people already consider themselves socially conservative-why do you think they align with the democratic party, if it flies in the face of what they believe?</b></br><br></br><br>First, I didn\'t say Black people\'s support for the Democrat party "flies in the face of what they believe."  That was the language you used to describe how the Republicans disrespect the Black electorate, not mine (about the Democrats).  Straight DILL and no skill, D.  I\'m tired of feeling embarrassed for you.</br><br></br><br>Second, I mentioned that there are a range of issues that the GOP doesn\'t respect, particularly the priority-importance African-Americans place on those issues.  The GOP uses WEDGES ISSUES assume that since they work with White folk, they\'ll work with Black as well.  That\'s dill, too.</br><br></br><br>Final point, there is no conflict.  Being socially conservative (which, again, is not to be confused with being politically conservative, you equivocating fool, you) is not mutually exclusive of the social justice, economic and equality issues we are all well aware of in the form of affirmative action and the desire for the same tool (government) that caused group disadvantaged to be used in remedying it.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968080" class="dsq-comment-message">Okay, Nquest, we\'re going to take this one small step at a time:<br></br><br>You said, and I quote: <i>"I mentioned that there are a range of issues that the GOP doesn\'t respect, particularly the priority-importance African-Americans place on those issues."</i></br><br></br><br>In your opinion, what are those issues?</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968081" class="dsq-comment-message">nquest,<br></br><br>Do you believe that only the federal government can adequately address social injustice?</br><br></br><br>If you see the government as more of the solution than the problem, then I can see why you are a Democrat.</br><br></br><br>But, IMO, the Democrat party has been in charge of social constructivism since FDR.</br><br></br><br>The Democrats have created more government entitlement programs that keep recipients dependent on government, without solving the overarching problems inherently behind the programs.</br><br></br><br>Welfare fostered dependency on government and contributed to the breakdown of the black family. Race and gender based Affirmative Action   and support for extending benefits and citizenship to illegal immigrants has increased resentment among Americans. This resentment is on display within your own party.</br><br></br><br>The Democrat party has built itself up by promising various marginalized groups that they have the cure for what ails them, that they alone, through big government, can provide the solutions. As long as black voters continue to buy into that, many will have to lead a \'political double life.\'</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968082" class="dsq-comment-message">No, D...  That is a FRAMING issue you have.  Simply, when I don\'t say anything to the effect that "Black voting for Democrats flies in the face..." then don\'t ask me a question with that assumption built in to it. PERIOD.<br></br><br>What did I tell you?</br><br></br><br><b>Ask me questions about something I say. Not about some script you come to this blog with.</b></br><br></br><br>You better get some hearing aids or something.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968083" class="dsq-comment-message">Completely unrelated to the current discussion....<br></br><br>Can anyone recommend a good, (somewhat) non-partisan book on the economy?</br><br></br><br>Want to do more than just read Greenspan\'s. ;)</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968084" class="dsq-comment-message"><b>Okay, Nquest, we\'re going to take this</b><br></br><br>No, we are not going to take anything.  You will:</br><br></br><br><b>Ask me a question about something I say. Not about some script you come to this blog with.</b></br><br></br><br>Or you will STFU talking to me.  Really, it\'s not that hard.  It\'s a very civil and respectful way to have a conversation.  </br><br></br><br>And stop acting like your a Grade A dumbazz.  You know the issues the GOP strikes out with insofar as Black voters are concerned.</br><br></br><br>You want to have a conversation with me (and that\'s the way it is, not the other way around), you better have a point to it and you better come right out with it.  Instead of trying to play games with FRAMES.  This is real simple:</br><br></br><br><b>Ask me a question about something I say. Not about some script you come to this blog with.</b></br><br></br><br>Add to that:  come out with what you want to say.  You aren\'t capable of providing steps for me to follow.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968085" class="dsq-comment-message">Junglecat,<br></br><br>My apologies.  I assumed your post was S\'.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968086" class="dsq-comment-message">Nquest,<br></br><br>You said:</br><br></br><br><i>"Ask me a question about something I say...Or you will STFU talking to me,"</i></br><br></br><br>...after I asked you a question about what you said.</br><br></br><br>After this, I\'m not responding to anything else you have to say on this thread. </br><br></br><br>But please, look at what you said, and what I asked you earlier. There\'s a disconnect there.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968087" class="dsq-comment-message">Nquest,<br>With all the ranting and babbling you’ve been doing today, humble me thought that you might need a break, i.e. you need to relax, so here is something to help you do it: </br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8PIbrMh6vo" rel="nofollow">In memory of Bo Diddley</a></br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968088" class="dsq-comment-message"><b>Do you believe that only the federal government can adequately address social injustice?</b><br></br><br>Do you believe in asking a question that makes sense?  Apparently not.</br><br></br><br>What did I say about social (in)justice?  If you can\'t engage what I say don\'t talk to me.</br><br></br><br>IS THAT CLEAR??</br><br></br><br></br><br><i>Being socially conservative is not mutually exclusive of the [important] social justice, economic and equality issues... and the desire for the same tool (government) that caused group disadvantaged to be used in remedying it.</i></br><br></br><br>Let me say that again:</br><br><b>the desire for the same tool (government) that caused group disadvantaged to be used in remedying it</b></br><br></br><br>That\'s one of them RESPONSIBILITY things, a message conservatives like to talk about, right?</br><br></br><br>Okay.  So what\'s the problem?</br><br></br><br></br><br><b>((((I can see why you are a Democrat.))))</b></br><br></br><br>Who said I was a Democrat?</br><br></br><br></br><br><b>(((IMO, the Democrat party has been in charge of social constructivism since FDR.)))</b></br><br></br><br>STFU!!   I didn\'t ask you about your opinion of the Democratic party and you must be suffering from hearing loss too.</br><br></br><br>Talking about what the Democrats did that you don\'t like when they shared government with Republicans doesn\'t strength an argument against them or for the Republicans.  It is a two-party system and they are both complicit in it all... just like the Iraq war.</br><br></br><br>What part of:</br><br><b>F-ck a Democrat and MuthaF*CK a Gottdamn Republican don\'t you understand?</b></br><br></br><br>This is a 3 dimensional world, S.  Why are you so 2 dimensional and can\'t function without your partisan bias.</br><br></br><br></br><br><b>(((This resentment is on display within your own party.)))</b></br><br></br><br>My party?  Which party is that?  Signify it be quoting where I declared which party I was a card carrying member of or STFU!!!</br><br></br><br>Got to democraticunderground with that bs.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968089" class="dsq-comment-message">anon @ 1:04,<br></br><br>Think about it...</br><br></br><br>Black voters have a choice and they choose not to exercise it. Why? What do they believe about the Republican party? Why do they believe it?</br><br></br><br>Democrats rely on partisanship to advance to prove to their constituents that their agenda is \'right\'. Identity politics demands that Democrats make promises to groups and when they fail to deliver or feel threatened, the opposition (Republicans) becomes the target and is chastised, demonized, \'we\'re right, they\'re wrong.\' </br><br></br><br>All sensible discussion and moderate positions tend to disappear.</br><br></br><br>One example, school choice. School choice is roundly opposed by the teachers\' union, which is 100% in the Democrat party.  School choice could be a successful educational reform and is shown to have support among black voters, 85% in the Democrat party, but it will never happen, not because it is a bad idea, but because competing groups will be in conflict and the group that wields the most power, contributes the most money or protests the loudest will stifle debate or chastise the opposition. </br><br></br><br>Jan. 29, 2008</br><br></br><br>"Lawmakers in Albany were given a powerful reminder of the political danger of siding in favor of school choice measures when the state\'s largest teachers union yesterday endorsed the Republican candidate in an important special election that will take place next month for a seat in the state Senate."</br><br></br><br>Even a move of a significant number of black voters to register as independents would create competition for their votes.</br><br></br><br>As a free-market, capitalist, I believe competition is good, and addresses the needs of the individual and the group.</br><br></br><br>It would not end partisan politics, but it would go a long way in advancing the interests of education, economic opportunity and advancement, and a wide range of issue that are of concern to a majority of Americans.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968090" class="dsq-comment-message">In other words, <b>poor Karmi</b>, has TAPPED OUT and won\'t dare try to defend his bs argument that the Black Liberation Theology of Wright and Cone amounts to the same kind of "hatred" via racism/prejudice espoused/practiced by White Supremacists (you know, those people who feel like they should rule over non-White people in this society) and the KKK (known for ACTIONS, ACTIONS, ACTIONS the followed their words).<br></br><br></br><br>Of course, Karmi\'s concession and desire not to carry on with that indefensible dumbsh*t was only a matter of time. </br><br></br><br> ______________________</br><br></br><br>PS:</br><br></br><br>I\'ll help you find distractions or anything else you want to change the subject, Karmi.  All you had to do was ask.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968091" class="dsq-comment-message">s,<br></br><br>It\'s Democratic Party...not Democrat Party.</br><br></br><br>....that was kind of bugging me, my friend.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968092" class="dsq-comment-message">nquest,<br></br><br>IMO, Democrats practice identity politics based on groups by nature of their birth. Republicans practice identity politics based on individuals choosing their group.</br><br></br><br>Both Democrats and Republicans have exploited identity politics for political gain.</br><br></br><br>It would follow then that independents who are aligned on a variety of issues, social and political, would wield the most influence.</br><br></br><br>You seem to speak of the concerns of blacks in monolithic terms. Do all black people have the same political priorities? What would those priorities be? Do any of these priorities intersect with conservative independents?</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968093" class="dsq-comment-message"><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/02/majority-whip-jim-clyburn_n_104768.html" rel="nofollow">Majority Whip Jim Clyburn Endorses Obama</a></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968094" class="dsq-comment-message"><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/02/cheney-makes-incest-joke_n_104761.html" rel="nofollow">Cheney Makes Incest Joke About West Virginians</a></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968095" class="dsq-comment-message">d,<br></br><br>I would recommend:</br><br></br><br>Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt. Written in 1946 it has been a guidebook through dozens of economic fallacies while also showing the logic of the free market. </br><br></br><br>Basic Economics: A Citizen\'s Guide to the Economy by Thomas Sowell.  Explains the elementary principles of sound, free-market economics through criticisms and critiques of dozens of domestic and international economic policies, with historical examples.</br><br></br><br>How the Economy Works : An Investor\'s Guide to Tracking the Economy by Edmund A. Mennis. Describes how changes in the economic environment are measured. Economic statistics that bombard the public are explained in concise, readable form. He describes where the statistics come from, how they are derived, who produces them, where they are published and what they mean.</br><br></br><br>Hope this helps.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968096" class="dsq-comment-message">Mahmoud Ahmadinejad continues his own “preparations” for a meeting with President Barack Obama by reminding the world what he wants. The Iranian news agency Mehr reports that Ahmadinejad promised that Muslims will soon uproot “satanic powers”, and that the mission will spell an end to the United States and Israel. Does this qualify as the “common interests” that Obama sees between Iran and the United States?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968097" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>is bob barr passing<br></br><br></br></i><br></br><br>Hell yeah, he\'s passing..LOL</br><br></br><br>This has been a debate for years.</br><br></br><br>But, Bob\'s got too many \' Negroid\' features, if you know what I mean..LOL</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968098" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>s said... <br>nquest, rikyrah, d, et al,</br><br></br><br>Sexism does not need to actually exist in this primary, in order for women to feel that Hillary has been treated unfairly.</br><br></br></i><br></br><br>dear s,</br><br></br><br>See, the reason I don\'t buy the \' sexism\' whining is the following:</br><br></br><br>1. She had more advantages than ANY modern political Presidential candidate (even George W. Bush, because say what you want about Bush 41, he simply didn\'t get involved in 43\'s campaign the way that Bubba did Hillpatine\'s). </br><br></br><br>This includes ALL THE MEN WHO PRECEEDED HER in trying to get the Presidency.</br><br></br><br>2. Her willingness to play the White Woman Victim DECK -- not card, DECK. </br><br></br><br>3. We have a ClintonAttacksObama Wiki Incident Page that is up to FIFTY.</br><br></br><br>FIFTY. </br><br></br><br>I challenge ANY Hillpatine supporter to be able to compile a ClintonSexismWiki with 20 incidents, let alone 50. AND, I\'ll add that they can\'t find FIVE coming from the Obama camp.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968099" class="dsq-comment-message">Bill Clinton is having a meltdown.  He\'s saying now that Obama is having others smear Hillary...I guess Vanity Fair, etc.<br></br><br>I can\'t see how he can go from wild accusations to campaigning for Barack.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968100" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>Clinton is known to want Obama to help out black officials who endorsed her and are now taking constituent heat, including, in some cases, primary challenges from pro-Obama politicians. <br>----------------</br><br></br><br>Hell to the naw. Obama should not endorse anyone and let the chips fall where they may. You had black Clinton surrogates sitting on CNN, etc. aiding and abetting the race baiting, in some cases actively participating in it (Tubbs Jones), but Clinton wants Obama to "save" them? So they can sabotage him from the halls of Congress? No, if the will of the people is that Tubbs Jones and her ilk have to be swept away, so be it. I\'m not mad that they supported Clinton; that\'s their right. I\'m mad they sat back while she and her campaign all but said the N-word and they just laughed and cackled and defended that crap like they were the 2008 version of ManTan and Sleep N Eat. Naw, they gotta go. Good riddance.</br></i><br></br><br>I\'m with Town on this. </br><br></br><br>Obama needs to stand on the sidelines and let Black folk take care of the Clinton Negroes - PERIOD. </br><br></br><br>ESPECIALLY the ones who aided and abetted in the racebaiting, though all of them need to be hung out to dry.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968101" class="dsq-comment-message">Pamela,<br></br><br>I really appreciated you pointing out your political preferences. </br><br></br><br>I\'m a Democrat, mostly. Though I believe I\'d be happier being an Indenpendent.</br><br></br><br>Socially, I\'m pretty conservative. </br><br></br><br>I don\'t have a gun, but will not take others and believe that gun laws only help the criminals. </br><br></br><br>I believe strongly in the institution of marriage, and how the lack of respect for that institution has harmed our community a great deal. </br><br></br><br>Abortion - I believe in a woman\'s right to choose, though I believe it her RESPONSIBLITY not to place herself in that position. </br><br></br><br>Gay rights - sort of middle of the road but completely against amending The Constitution with the DOMA. Don\'t mess with The Constitution. </br><br></br><br>I really appreciated your explanation of your political thought process.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968102" class="dsq-comment-message">Rikyrah,<br>So,then-considering what you believe-why are you a democrat?</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968103" class="dsq-comment-message">d, <br></br><br>fiscally liberal. </br><br></br><br>d, </br><br></br><br>I also don\'t think I\'m an oddity. Black folk are the most conservative - socially - portion of the Democratic Party. </br><br></br><br>This is my position on guns, and a lot of the Black folk I talk to agree.</br><br></br><br>I\'m not for taking anyone else\'s LEGAL guns from them.</br><br></br><br>I just want to know why these legal gun owners allow the scumbags to hide behind them and pimp them the way that they do, by hiding behind the mirage that if you have some registration of firearms, the world will come to an end. </br><br></br><br>I am against semi-automatic weapons though. The only point of them is to kill a whole lot of people. Only law enforcement should be able to have them. Anyone who pretends that they need them for hunting is a LIAR, because you wouldn\'t kill an animal with such a messy weapon.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968104" class="dsq-comment-message">Hilary Rosen is on Campbell Brown saying Hillary has lists of SD and she\'ll be in NY tomorrow calling them because she wants them to personally justify the decision they\'re about to make.(paraphrasing)<br></br><br>So I guess she\'ll try to intimidate them from coming out for Barack tomorrow.</br><br></br><br>Gloria Borger, Hilary Rosen and Campbell are asking Roland(sole male and black) why Obama is limping across the finish line.  Roland explains that some states are tailor-made for certain candidates.  No one questioned why Hillary did so poorly in States Obama won blow-outs in.  </br><br></br><br>It felt like a set up of the 3 white women.  Of course, they had to show a clip of Pfleger.  I wonder if they notice that Pfleger is white?  They always seem put out by the congregation cheering in the background but not so much by Pfleger himself.</br><br></br><br>Despite all the preparations to the contrary.  Hillary is not entirely done fighting.  She will browbeat the SD\'s right to the last second.   She can\'t convince them to endorse her, but she\'ll try to prevent them from coming out for Barack and delay his victory.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968105" class="dsq-comment-message">Hey Rikyrah - that picture is pretty scary. lol</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968106" class="dsq-comment-message">D - I read both articles and my answer is NO.  Not worth it.<br></br><br>Here are a few articles of my own.</br><br></br><br>Marine \'lied\' over Haditha deaths </br><br>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7426429.stm</br><br></br><br>The Iraq war: Counting the cost</br><br>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7304300.stm</br><br></br><br>Toxic world fallout from Iraq invasion.</br><br>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7293689.stm</br><br></br><br>Excerpt:However, even if the war turns out to be "winnable", its critics dismiss any suggestion that it was "worth it".</br><br></br><br>Struggle for Iraq</br><br>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/middle_east/2002/conflict_with_iraq/default.stm</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968107" class="dsq-comment-message">rikyrah,<br></br><br>In their view, the fact that a young male upstart was able to leapfrog over an older woman who had \'paid her dues\' is in and of itself sexist.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968108" class="dsq-comment-message">Ed Schulz is throwing down on Larry King.  Everybody talks about Hillary getting respect.  What about Barack\'s respect for running a masterful campaign?  He is so far ahead, he can afford to stop competing with her for the last 4 contests and turn his full attention to McCain.  But here\'s Kiki and co. on Larry King talking about the last 2 contests.  I suppose they\'re emboldened by the SD\'s not coming out in force today.<br></br><br>Where the f*ck are the superdelegates??!</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968109" class="dsq-comment-message">Hi Truthseeker - I watched MSNBC tonight and they discussed the superdelegates trickle.  It was said they want to let the primary run it\'s course so there would be nothing else for Hillary and her supporters to dispute.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-1968110">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-1968110" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-1968110" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968110">TruthSeeker</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-1968110" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968110" class="dsq-comment-message">Ed said a either a (Senator or aide) told him that they can\'t leave Bill in a hotel lobby by himself.<br></br><br>So, it\'s the night before the last primaries for Obama and Hillary, and what is the MSM talking about?  BILL!</br><br></br><br>It\'s becoming apparent the Clinton\'s haven\'t been vetted.  The GOP had no idea on how to attack Obama until Hillary showed them how.  Republicans would be so happy to have Hillary on the ticket!  They\'d use Billary to take him down.</br></div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-1968111">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-1968111" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-1968111" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968111">TruthSeeker</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-1968111" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968111" class="dsq-comment-message">Val,<br></br><br>Hi.  Barack deserves to be able to declare victory.  If he doesn\'t reach the number by tomorrow, he might not get that chance.  Really, should the Superdelegates be making all their decisions based on what Hillary and her supporters will think?</br></div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-1968112">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-1968112" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-1968112" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968112">Anonymous</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-1968112" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968112" class="dsq-comment-message">In a year that for historical and contemporary reasons should be a Democratic shoo-in, the Democrats have nominated about the only candidate who can lose in November.<br></br><br>Why?</br><br></br><br>I just don’t see how such an inexperienced candidate can rein in his wife, curb his own slips, monitor all of his past dubious role models, and avoid the growing divide between utopian rhetoric and pretty \'typical politician\' tactics and embarrassing past associations. And I don’t think he has yet to figure out that Republican and independents\' unhappiness with Bush’s spending, appointments, and inability to articulate a message, and defend himself does not really equate to a desire for billions in new taxes and unworkable new programs.</br></div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-1968113">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-1968113" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-1968113" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968113">Anonymous</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-1968113" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968113" class="dsq-comment-message">Ben Smith @ politico.com:<br></br><br>A Clinton donor tells me that on a conference call today with major fundraisers this afternoon, Harold Ickes told them Clinton isn\'t planning to drop out. He pressed donors to stay unified, and reviewed tactical options, including challenging the Michigan delegation.</br><br></br><br>State finance committees are also circulating letters to deliver to Clinton tomorrow in New York, and I\'ve obtained a draft of the Illinois finance committee\'s letter, being circulated by a Clinton fundraising aide, Rafi Jafri, which stresses a fight until the convention, and a resolution in "August, and no earlier."</br></div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-1968114">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-1968114" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-1968114" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968114">Nquest</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-1968114" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968114" class="dsq-comment-message"><b>nquest,<br>You seem to speak of the concerns of blacks in monolithic terms.</br></b> <br></br><br>S, you ARE a stupid mf scramblin\', trying to find a point like a starved squirrel trying to find a nut.  What that you say?</br><br></br><br>Monolith??</br><br></br><br>You\'re the "your party" mf who throws that sh*t out like the old standard "you people." So stop trying to project your f-ck ups on me.</br><br></br><br>How the hell you\'re going to try to pin some "monolith" stuff on me when I stated how I guess you\'re not a BOOKERISTA? </br><br></br><br>BOOKERISTA = people who are, per the Booker Rising blog, "black moderates and black conservatives."  </br><br></br><br>I also mentioned Black Republicans Lynn Swann and <a href="http://www.wayneperryman.com/" rel="nofollow">Wayne Perryman</a>, the author of the book Unfounded Loyalty: An In-Depth Look Into The Love Affair Between Blacks and Democrats.  </br><br></br><br>Those things and the very explicit fact that I used the phrase "THE BLACK POLITICAL CONSENSUS" makes your statement fraudulent and questions like this:</br><br></br><br><b>Do all black people have the same political priorities?</b> </br><br></br><br>Utterly STUPID and baseless!   S, you are the dullest knife.</br><br></br><br></br><br>Goodbye.</br></div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-1968115">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-1968115" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-1968115" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968115">Nquest</span>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-1968115" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968115" class="dsq-comment-message">THE BLACK MONOLITH by S, the deaf conservative:<br></br><br></br><br><b>(())  Until black people CHOOSE party affiliation based on their INDIVIDUAL reasons and impulses</b></br><br></br><br>(())  As long as black voters continue to buy into that, many will have to lead a \'political double life.\'</br><br></br><br>(())  Black voters have a choice and they choose not to exercise it.</br><br></br><br></br><br>Why, S, you seem to speak as if Black voters are a monolith.</br></div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-1968116">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-1968116" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-1968116" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968116">rikyrah</span>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-1968116" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968116" class="dsq-comment-message">Ed Schultz TOTALLY THREW DOWN on Larry King.<br></br><br>Might I say that I was LMAO with Hill Harper. I love him. I\'ll say it:</br><br></br><br>\'Clean, neat, crisp....AND A FLAG PIN\'</br><br></br><br>BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA</br><br></br><br>Go Hill!</br><br></br><br>I LOL just thinking about it.</br><br></br><br>But, Ed Schultz just threw down completely.</br></div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-1968117">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-1968117" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-1968117" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968117">rikyrah</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-1968117" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968117" class="dsq-comment-message">See, I thought the picture was so cute. Awe.</div>\
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	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-1968118">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-1968118" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-1968118" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968118">rikyrah</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-1968118" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968118" class="dsq-comment-message">truthseeker,<br></br><br>among the MANY lies told by Camp Hillpatine, the biggest had to be that she was \' truly vetted\'.</br><br></br><br>BULLSHIT!</br><br></br><br>5 Things. Don\'t even count Bill\'s below-the-belt-extracurriculars. </br><br></br><br>1. Full revealing of ALL her earmarks.</br><br>2. What\'s in the 18 million LEFT OUT of the tax returns?</br><br>3. What\'s in the Ron Burkle Partnership? What did he have to do to get it?</br><br>4. Donor list for the Clinton Library</br><br>5. Donor list for the Clinton Foundation</br><br></br><br>Those 5- and the GOP wouldn\'t even have to tell us whose been flying with Bill on those private planes.</br></div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-1968119">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-1968119" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-1968119" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968119">TruthSeeker</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-1968119" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968119" class="dsq-comment-message">Ha!  Kiki was mortified!  <br></br><br>Who are they trying to kid anyway?  Sexual predators don\'t change their ways just like that.  We know Bill\'s been up to no good.</br></div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-1968120">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-1968120" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-1968120" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968120">Anonymous</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-1968120" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968120" class="dsq-comment-message">Does this sound like a woman getting ready to bail? <br></br><br>Quote: “Tomorrow is the last day of the primaries and the beginning of a new phase in the campaign. After South Dakota and Montana vote I will lead in the popular vote and Senator Obama will lead in the delegate count. The voters will have voted and so the decision will fall to the delegates empowered to vote at the Democratic Convention.”</br></div>\
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	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-1968121">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-1968121" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-1968121" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1968121">s</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-1968121" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1968121" class="dsq-comment-message">nquest,<br></br><br>You seem to be more interested in making snarky comments than engaging in a dialogue or debate.</br><br></br><br>Good night.</br></div>\
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