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\u201cTootsie\u201d and \u201cOut of Africa\u201d were among the most successful of the 1970s and \u201980s, died Monday at home here. He was 73. </br><br>The cause was cancer, said the publicist Leslee Dart, who spoke for his family. </br><br></br><br>Mr. Pollack\u2019s career defined an era in which big stars (Robert Redford, Barbra Streisand, Warren Beatty) and the filmmakers who knew how to wrangle them (Barry Levinson, Mike Nichols) retooled the Hollywood system. Savvy operators, they played studio against studio, staking their fortunes on pictures that served commerce without wholly abandoning art.</br><br></br><br>Hollywood honored Mr. Pollack in return. His movies received multiple Academy Award nominations, and as a director he won an Oscar for his work on the 1985 film \u201cOut of Africa\u201d as well as nominations for directing \u201cThey Shoot Horses, Don\u2019t They?\u201d (1969) and \u201cTootsie\u201d (1982). </br><br></br><br>\u201cMichael Clayton,\u201d of which Mr. Pollack was a producer and a member of the cast, was nominated for a best picture Oscar earlier this year. He delivered a trademark performance as an old-bull lawyer who demands dark deeds from a subordinate, played by George Clooney. (\u201cThis is news? This case has reeked from Day 1!\u201d snaps Mr. Pollack\u2019s Marty Bach.) Most recently, Mr. Pollack portrayed the father of Patrick Dempsey\u2019s character in \u201cMade of Honor.\u201d</br><br></br><br>Mr. Pollack became a prolific producer of independent films in the latter part of his career. With a partner, the filmmaker Anthony Minghella, he ran Mirage Enterprises, a production company whose films included Mr. Minghella\u2019s \u201cCold Mountain\u201d and the documentary \u201cSketches of Frank Gehry,\u201d released in 2006, the last film directed by Mr. Pollack.</br><br></br><br>Mr. Minghella died in March, at the age of 54, or complications from surgery for tonsil cancer.</br><br></br><br>Apart from the Gehry documentary, Mr. Pollack never directed a movie without stars. His first feature, \u201cThe Slender Thread,\u201d released by Paramount Pictures in 1965, starred Sidney Poitier and Anne Bancroft. In his next 19 films \u2014 every one a romance or drama but for the single comedy, \u201cTootsie\u201d \u2014 Mr. Pollack worked with Burt Lancaster, Natalie Wood, Jane Fonda, Robert Mitchum, Al Pacino, Dustin Hoffman, Meryl Streep, Tom Cruise, Harrison Ford, Nicole Kidman, Ms. Streisand and others. A frequent collaborator was Robert Redford. </br><br></br><br>\u201cSydney\u2019s and my relationship both professionally and personally covers 40 years,\u201d Mr. Redford said in an e-mailed statement. \u201cIt\u2019s too personal to express in a sound bite.\u201d</br><br></br><br>Sydney Irwin Pollack was born on July 1, 1934, in Lafayette, Ind., and reared in South Bend. By Mr. Pollack\u2019s own account, in the book \u201cWorld Film Directors,\u201d his father, David, a pharmacist, and his mother, the former Rebecca Miller, were first-generation Russian-Americans who had met at Purdue University. </br><br></br><br>Mr. Pollack developed a love of drama at South Bend High School and, instead of going to college, went to New York and enrolled at the Neighborhood Playhouse School of the Theater. He studied there for two years under Sanford Meisner, who was in charge of its acting department, and remained for five more as Mr. Meisner\u2019s assistant, teaching acting but also appearing onstage and in television. </br><br></br><br>Curly-haired and almost 6 feet 2 inches tall, Mr. Pollack had a notable role in a 1959 \u201cPlayhouse 90\u201d telecast of \u201cFor Whom the Bell Tolls,\u201d an adaptation of the Hemingway novel directed by John Frankenheimer. Earlier, Mr. Pollack had appeared on Broadway with Zero Mostel in \u201cA Stone for Danny Fisher\u201d and with Katharine Cornell in \u201cThe Dark Is Light Enough.\u201d But he said later that he probably could not have built a career as a leading man.</br><br></br><br>Instead, Mr. Pollack took the advice of Burt Lancaster, whom he had met while working with Mr. Frankenheimer, and turned to directing. Mr. Lancaster steered him to the entertainment mogul Lew Wasserman, and through him Mr. Pollack landed a directing assignment on the television series \u201cShotgun Slade.\u201d </br><br></br><br>After a faltering start, he hit his stride on episodes of \u201cBen Casey,\u201d \u201cNaked City,\u201d \u201cThe Fugitive\u201d and other shows. In 1966 he won an Emmy for directing an episode of \u201cBob Hope Presents the Chrysler Theater.\u201d</br><br></br><br>From the time he made his first full-length feature, \u201cThe Slender Thread,\u201d about a social work student coaxing a woman out of suicide on a help line, Mr. Pollack had a hit-and-miss relationship with the critics. Writing in The New York Times, A. H. Weiler deplored that film\u2019s \u201csudsy waves of bathos.\u201d Mr. Pollack himself later pronounced it \u201cdreadful.\u201d </br><br></br><br>But from the beginning of his movie career, he was also perceived as belonging to a generation whose work broke with the immediate past. In 1965, Charles Champlin, writing in The Los Angeles Times, compared Mr. Pollack to the director Elliot Silverstein, whose western spoof, \u201cCat Ballou,\u201d had been released earlier that year, and Stuart Rosenberg, soon to be famous for \u201cCool Hand Luke\u201d (1967). Mr. Champlin cited all three as artists who had used television rather than B movies to learn their craft.</br><br></br><br>Self-critical and never quite at ease with Hollywood, Mr. Pollack voiced a constant yearning for creative prerogatives more common on the stage. Yet he dived into the fray. In 1970, \u201cThey Shoot Horses, Don\u2019t They?,\u201d his bleak fable of love and death among marathon dancers in the Great Depression, based on a Horace McCoy novel, received nine Oscar nominations, including the one for directing. (Gig Young won the best supporting actor award for his performance.) </br><br></br><br>Two years later, Mr. Pollack made the mountain-man saga \u201cJeremiah Johnson,\u201d one of three closely spaced pictures in which he directed Mr. Redford.</br><br></br><br>The second of those, \u201cThe Way We Were,\u201d about ill-fated lovers who meet up later in life, also starred Ms. Streisand and was a huge hit despite critical hostility.</br><br></br><br>The next, \u201cThree Days of the Condor,\u201d another hit, about a bookish C.I.A. worker thrust into a mystery, did somewhat better with the critics. \u201cTense and involving,\u201d said Roger Ebert in The Chicago Sun-Times.</br><br></br><br>With \u201cAbsence of Malice\u201d in 1981, Mr. Pollack entered the realm of public debate. The film\u2019s story of a newspaper reporter (Sally Field) who is fed a false story by federal officials trying to squeeze information from a businessman (Paul Newman) was widely viewed as a corrective to the adulation of investigative reporters that followed Alan J. Pakula\u2019s hit movie \u201cAll the President\u2019s Men,\u201d with its portrayal of the Watergate scandal.</br><br></br><br>But only with \u201cTootsie,\u201d in 1982, did Mr. Pollack become a fully realized Hollywood player. By then he was represented by Michael S. Ovitz and the rapidly expanding Creative Artists Agency. So was his leading man, Dustin Hoffman. </br><br></br><br>As the film \u2014 a comedy about a struggling actor who disguises himself as a woman to get a coveted television part \u2014 was being shot for Columbia Pictures, Mr. Pollack and Mr. Hoffman became embroiled in a semi-public feud, with Mr. Ovitz running shuttle diplomacy between them.</br><br></br><br>Mr. Hoffman, who had initiated the project, argued for a more broadly comic approach. But Mr. Pollack \u2014 who played Mr. Hoffman\u2019s agent in the film \u2014 was drawn to the seemingly doomed romance between the cross-dressing Hoffman character and the actress played by Jessica Lange. </br><br></br><br>If Mr. Pollack did not prevail on all points, he tipped the film in his own direction. Meanwhile, the movie came in behind schedule, over budget and surrounded by bad buzz.</br><br></br><br>Yet \u201cTootsie\u201d was also a winner. It took in more than $177 million domestically and received 10 Oscar nominations, including for best picture. (Ms. Lange took home the film\u2019s only Oscar, for best supporting actress.)</br><br></br><br>Backed by Mr. Ovitz, Mr. Pollack expanded his reach in the wake of success. Over the next several years, he worked closely with both TriStar Pictures, where he was creative consultant, and Universal, where Mirage, his production company, set up shop in 1986. </br><br></br><br>Mr. Pollack reached perhaps his pinnacle with \u201cOut of Africa.\u201d The film, based on the memoirs of Isak Dinesen, paired Ms. Streep and Mr. Redford in a drama that reworked one of the director\u2019s favorite themes, that of star-crossed lovers. It captured Oscars for best picture and best director.</br><br></br><br>Still, Mr. Pollack remained uneasy about his cinematic skills. \u201cI was never what I would call a great shooter or visual stylist,\u201d he told an interviewer for American Cinematographer last year. And he developed a reputation for caution when it came to directing assignments. Time after time, he expressed interest in directing projects, only to back away. At one point he was to make \u201cRain Man,\u201d a Dustin Hoffman picture ultimately directed by Mr. Levinson; at another, an adaptation of \u201cThe Night Manager\u201d by John le Carr\u00e9.</br><br></br><br>That wariness was undoubtedly fed by his experience with \u201cHavana,\u201d a 1990 film that was to be his last with Mr. Redford. It seemed to please no one, though Mr. Pollack defended it. \u201cTo tell you the truth, if I knew what was wrong, I\u2019d have fixed it,\u201d Mr. Pollack told The Los Angeles Times in 1993.</br><br></br><br>\u201cThe Firm,\u201d with Tom Cruise, was a hit that year. But \u201cSabrina\u201d (1995) and \u201cRandom Hearts\u201d (1999), both with Harrison Ford, and \u201cThe Interpreter\u201d (2005), with Nicole Kidman and Sean Penn, fell short, as Hollywood and its primary audience increasingly eschewed stars for fantasy and special effects.</br><br></br><br>Mr. Pollack never stopped acting; in a recent episode of \u201cEntourage,\u201d the HBO series about Hollywood, he played himself. </br><br></br><br>Among Mr. Pollack\u2019s survivors are two daughters, Rebecca Pollack and Rachel Pollack, and his wife, Claire Griswold. The couple married in 1958, while Mr. Pollack was serving a two-year hitch in the Army. Their only son, Steven, died at age 34 in a 1993 plane crash in Santa Monica, Calif.</br><br></br><br>In his later years, Mr. Pollack appeared to relish his role as elder statesman. At various times he was executive director of the Actors Studio West, chairman of American Cinematheque and an advocate for artists\u2019 rights.</br><br></br><br>He increasingly sounded wistful notes about the disappearance of the Hollywood he knew in his prime. \u201cThe middle ground is now gone,\u201d Mr. Pollack said in the fall 1998 issue of New Perspectives Quarterly. He added, with a nod to a fellow filmmaker: \u201cIt is not impossible to make mainstream films which are really good. Costa-Gavras once said that accidents can happen.\u201d</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_07:56:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966968": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<a href=\"http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/obamas_patriot_campagin.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Obama's Patriot Campaign</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_08:13:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966969": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<a href=\"http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10640.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Obama looks westward in electoral map play</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_08:14:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966970": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<a href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/27/opinion/27brooks.html?_r=1&amp;ref=opinion&amp;oref=slogin\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Running Mate Choice</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_08:15:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966971": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "The best response I've seen to Hillary's RFK statements. . . <br></br><br><a href=\"http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-bromwich/assassination-chatter-and_b_103619.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">A-Word Chatter and the End of Legitimacy</a></br><br></br><br><b>David Bromwich:</b>(emphasis added)</br><br><i>\"When a democratic society fails to honor the contract by which we elect our leaders in peace, and let them govern in peace, and show our approval or disapproval by keeping them or turning them out of office--<b>when the incantation \"He is not one of us\" dips so far below sanity that we pretend the rules and decencies aren't in force any more--</b>it is more than one person who is harmed. <b>This loose way of talking and thinking of violence hardens us against real responsibility if the violent thing should happen.</b> We are administering shocks to ourselves in advance so as not to be surprised by the actuality. <b>But such preparations are in their very nature corrupt, and corrupting.</b> And they are not less so when used against any person of dignity and estimation, on the public stage, than when they are leveled against an elected official.\"</i></br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_08:17:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "d1a8e45844ef20a90904a65e60371f42", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966972": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Roland Martin's radio show this morning is hilarious.<br> </br><br>Topics du jour so far:</br><br></br><br>Hillpatine's RFK remarks</br><br>Olbermann's Special Comment</br><br>Bubba's Conspiracy remarks</br><br></br><br>Black folk can be hilarious when they want to be.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_08:22:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966973": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<a href=\"http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/05/why-krugman-i-1.html#more\" rel=\"nofollow\">Why Krugman is Wrong</a> <br></br><br>For me, Krugman would have to do mea culpas from now until the election for me to take him seriously, because his hackery on behalf of Hillpatine has been pathetic.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_08:27:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966974": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<a href=\"http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/27/060/23911/392/523373\" rel=\"nofollow\">Busted: McCain Message Coordination w/ Anti-Obama 527</a><br></br><br></br><br></br><br><a href=\"http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/may/26/hillaryclinton.barackobama\" rel=\"nofollow\">Clinton has run her campaign the same way Bush has run the country</a></br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_08:42:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966975": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<a href=\"http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/27/8945/62079/317/523456\" rel=\"nofollow\">Reggie Love: Obama's Personal Aide</a><br></br><br>He's Obama's ' Charlie' (West Wing Reference)</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_08:48:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966976": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Rikyrah,<br>From our website:</br><br></br><br><i>\"Established by combat veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan on November 11, 2007, Veterans Day, VFFPAC will endorse and offer extended support through financial contributions and media assistance to Republicans, Democrats, and Independents who support victory in the Global War on Terrorism. Bottom Line: <b>VFFPAC will support those who support victory</b> \u2014 that is our only litmus test.</i></br><br></br><br>Tell DKos to chill; it's not a smear campaign. The ad asks legimitate questions. </br><br></br><br>My contribution for the day, from the <i>Weekly Standard</i>:</br><br></br><br><a href=\"http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/141tbojp.asp\" rel=\"nofollow\">Change That Matters: Iraq Has Changed; Why Can't the Democrats?</a></br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_08:58:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966977": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "rikyrah,<br></br><br>I'm listening to Roland as well.  He's droppin' science!</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_09:10:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "d1a8e45844ef20a90904a65e60371f42", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966978": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Poblano speaks:<br></br><br><a href=\"http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/27/0491/33233/381/523392\" rel=\"nofollow\">Adventures in Lannyland</a></br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_09:21:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966979": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "From American Thinker:<br></br><br><a href=\"http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/05/obama_words_that_matter.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"> Obama Words That Matter</a></br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_09:51:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966980": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<a href=\"http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/27/the-young-gaffer-sees-dead-people/\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Young Gaffer sees dead people</a><br></br><br><a href=\"http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/05/020607.php\" rel=\"nofollow\">Memorial Day: A Contrast</a></br><br></br><br><i>On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the audience here today -- our sense of patriotism is particularly strong.</i></br><br></br><br>Obama is about as phony as it gets...</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_09:51:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3da39b121dc85e9bd8d9f861782bc8b9", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966981": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Democrats have lost interest and understanding and examining the progress made in Iraq because they are so wedded to a narrative of defeat and a position of immediate withdrawal. <br></br><br>McCain went after Obama for failing to visit Iraq and rightly so. Obama  chooses to attack McCain with Webb's political gimmick and spend Memorial Day hailing our brave soldiers as victims.</br><br></br><br>The success of the surge is the most significant development this year, it should not be ignored. Obama has been selling \u201cjudgment\u201d to the Democratic primary electorate. McCain now is asking Americans to assess Obama\u2019s judgment in light of his refusal to examine key facts and adjust national security policy to maximize American interests.</br><br></br><br>Obama's feet have been cemented in the concrete of defeat, and he was put there by the virulent anti-war base of the party. Or did he step into it on his own?</br><br></br><br>Now, does Obama have the political courage and will to break from his party's entrenched anti-war position and begin to acknowledge the factual developments, both political and military, and prove to voters that 'hope'(for victory and success), 'faith' (in a winning strategy) has come from the right and 'change' may be necessary from the left?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_09:56:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966982": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "From Ed Morrisey:<br></br><br>If Barack Obama accepted John McCain\u2019s challenge to visit Iraq, what would he hear from General David Petraeus? His briefing would highlight improvements on every front, including greater political reconciliation and the recent strength shown by Nouri al-Maliki in Basra and Sadr City in establishing sovereignty throughout Iraq. Obama would also learn that violence has now dropped to a four-year low, thanks to the efforts over the past 12 months to establish order through the \u201csurge\u201d:</br><br></br><br>    The U.S. military said Sunday that the number of attacks by militants in the last week dropped to a level not seen in Iraq since March 2004.</br><br></br><br>    About 300 violent incidents were recorded in the seven-day period that ended Friday, down from a weekly high of nearly 1,600 in mid-June last year, according to a chart provided by the military.</br><br></br><br>    The announcement appeared aimed at allaying fears that an uprising by militiamen loyal to radical Shiite Muslim cleric Muqtada Sadr could unravel security gains since 28,500 additional American troops were deployed in Iraq in a buildup that reached its height in June.</br><br></br><br>    Navy Rear Adm. Patrick Driscoll, a military spokesman, credited the decrease to a series of operations launched by the Iraqi government in the last two months to extend control over parts of the country that have been under the sway of armed Sunni Arab and Shiite militants. They include crackdowns in the southern oil hub of Basra, the northern city of Mosul and Baghdad\u2019s Sadr City district.</br><br></br><br>The irony of this is that the improvements could result in a significant drawdown of American forces regardless of the results of our election in November. The secret surge \u2014 the buildup of a professional Iraqi Army \u2014 will soon make American combat troops superfluous. Maliki tried to go it alone in Basra and wound up needing some logistical and air support for his operations, but Sadr City appears mostly to have succeeded in staying all-IA. The quiet resolution in Mosul has established order in the last bastion of AQI, and while a number of those terrorists appear to have hotfooted out of the area before Maliki\u2019s arrival, over a thousand suspects remain in custody.</br><br></br><br>The question facing the next president will be the manner of withdrawal, not the fact of it. The Maliki government wants American support for the near- to mid-term in order to consolidate central-government sovereignty and keep Iran out of its hair. The Iraqi Army needs a little more time to develop its troops and especially its logistics, but they now perform well enough to conduct their own security operations with little involvement of American ground troops. An orderly transition to a support role, akin to Germany and South Korea, would bolster the Iraqi elected government and keep the US military in good position to run counterterrorist operations in the region, with the Iraqis as allies.</br><br></br><br>Maliki already knows this. Iraqis will not long abide American combat troops in Iraq past the necessity, and as we see in Sadr City, the emphasis on an all-Iraqi effort makes a great deal of difference. Getting Americans out of the front lines will benefit everyone, and Maliki\u2019s proposal for a security agreement is based on that reality. He envisions a significant drawdown in 2009 as part of that agreement, and the Iraqi Army appears ready to assume the entire front-line role.</br><br></br><br>John McCain has made this point all along. His vision of counterinsurgency warfare saved Iraq from collapsing into a Somalia with oil when that result appeared inevitable at the end of 2006. With the violence dropping rapidly and Iraq stabilizing under a representative democracy, the US cannot afford to walk away entirely and give away the strategic positioning a partnership with Iraq would provide.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_10:05:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966983": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "S,<br>Obama and Clinton prostrated themselves before the Soros/MoveOn crowd, and somehow, Obama emerged as their chosen one. </br><br></br><br>But he can't backtrack now, else he pisses them off. </br><br></br><br>Problem is, what happens when he gets into office and realizes that all his promises on getting out of the war (i.e. removing all combat brigades within his first year) will be damn near impossible for him to keep?</br><br></br><br>Maybe he should make <a href=\"http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/kanjorski-says-dems-were-insincere-about-ending-war-2008-05-23.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Rep. Paul Kanjorski</a> his press spokesman, so he'll be able to say that Obama \"sort of stretched the facts\" like the dems did in 2006.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_10:09:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966984": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "from MSNBC's First Read<br></br><br>\"Weekend delegate update: Obama 6-1 Posted: Monday, May 26, 2008 10:29 AM by Domenico Montanaro</br><br>Filed Under: 2008, Obama, Delegates </br><br>From NBC\u2019s Domenico Montanaro</br><br>Obama picked up six delegates to Clinton\u2019s one over the weekend. He got one from Alaska (former Gov. Tony Knowles 5/25), Wyoming (W. Patrick Goggles 5/24) and Georgia (Stephen Leeds) and three from Hawaii Brian Schatz -- new HI party chairman 5/25; Kari Luna -- new HI party vice chairwoman, and James Burns -- add on) after state conventions this weekend. Clinton also got one \u2013 add-on Verna Cleveland from Georgia. </br><br></br><br>The NBC NEWS Delegate Counts:</br><br>PLEDGED: Obama 1,647 to 1,502</br><br>SUPERDELEGATES: Obama 315.5 to 282.5</br><br>EDWARDS PL. DELEGATES: Obama 12 to 0</br><br>TOTAL: Obama 1,974.5 to 1,784.5</br><br></br><br>* Obama is 51.5 delegates away from the required 2,026, according the NBC NEWS counts.</br><br></br><br>(We are also checking to see if we will adjust Alaska\u2019s count. NBC had a 9-4 split for Obama, but according to AP, Obama picked up both statewide PLEOs. That would give a 10-3 split there. We will update if adjusted.)\"</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_10:36:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3e892379e7d442c8970d7cad6f54d5b8", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966985": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "d,<br></br><br>McCain is on offense and going hard at Obama here. The McCain campaign thinks that Obama\u2019s lack of immersion in Iraq makes him look inexperienced and weak, especially since Obama hasn\u2019t visited Iraq for over two years, well before the surge reversed American fortunes.</br><br></br><br>I don't think Obama will be able to get to the White House without acknowledging the success of the surge. When forced to explain the particulars of his surrender plan (in light of our success) to general election voters, Obama will have a tough time.</br><br></br><br>The far-left will stand by him and give him political cover, knowing that they have him in their pocket.</br><br></br><br>The question will be, how effectively can he back pedal to gain credibility with the general election voters? Reuter reports that Obama is already doing this with regards to Iran:</br><br></br><br>\"There's no reason why we would necessarily meet with Ahmadinejad before we know that he was actually in power. He's not the most powerful person in Iran,\" Obama told reporters while campaigning in New Mexico.</br><br></br><br>Will the voters buy it?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_10:43:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966986": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I would like to just say that I would be much more willing to have something approximating a substantive debate about Iraq policy if it wasn't based in loaded language and code words.  <br></br><br>Just as with arguing with Clinton supporters, when you start from a slanted position, my impression is that dealing with truth, objectivity and reality isn't really your strong suit.</br><br></br><br></br><br>But y'all keep at it...Im sure it helps you sleep at night.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_10:51:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "ace8018620947824dbdaa5c619193d07", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966987": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "S,<br>Nope, they won't. Because if he acknowledges the success, then the question becomes \"if we're winning-or it looks like we could win-why do you want to leave?\"</br><br></br><br>I don't think Obama not going to Iraq makes him look weak/inexperienced, but it damn sure makes him look uninformed.</br><br></br><br>But, you know, if he doesn't want to go to Iraq, fine. At least talk to the commander on the ground without speechifying for seven-plus minutes (like he did when GEN Petraeus went to the Hill in '07). And if he doesn't want to do that, then maybe VFF will have another Vets on the Hill event this year (granted, if they do, it will be before the elections-giving Obama an easy out).</br><br></br><br>McCain should keep pressing Obama on this issue, since the media doesn't seem to want to do it. It's a simple question: why do you want to be the first president to lose a war that we are winning?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_10:59:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966988": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Whether violence is down or up does not matter.  It is time for the Iraqis to solve their problrm.  It is time ofr the US troops to come home.  The policy is wrong.  We can not occupy Iraq for the forseeable future.<br></br><br>Surge success is immaterial, just as previous successes or failure were.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_11:01:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "d3f0aaf3547da2cdf07b0b927717b919", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966989": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "nardwilly,<br></br><br>The surge success in immaterial only because it does not conform to the narrative of defeat and policy of immediate withdrawal?</br><br></br><br>Why should we leave when we are winning? </br><br></br><br>The policy of having a strong, stable Iraq as an ally in the mideast will help to contain and deter Iran and its terrorist proxies Hamas and Hezbollah, and Syria as well. Just as we remain in Germany and Japan after victory in WWII, we can maintain a presence in Iraq. It is in our national security interests to do so.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_11:20:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966990": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Nard,<br>Of course we can't \"occupy\" Iraq for the forseeable future. Nor do we want to. For that matter, nor has it ever been policy to do so.</br><br></br><br>Recall the now-failed Rumsfield Doctrine of getting in with as few troops as possible and then getting out. That's no way to run an occupation.</br><br></br><br>Iraqis are beginning to stand up to fix the problems in their country. Brigades of Iraqis calling themselves the \"Sons of Iraq\" are taking the lead on security in individual neighborhoods. Important legislation-such as that revising the de-Ba'athification law and providing amnesty to those who were insurgents-has been passed or is being worked on. </br><br></br><br>Hell, the prime minister of Iraq went to Mosul to lead an attack on insurgents himself. Let's see Obama do that.</br><br></br><br>Inkognergo,</br><br>Actually, it doesn't. It's pretty sad to watch a country which I can countless others went to fight for-and which thousands have died for-show itself unwilling to pay the cost of freedom.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_11:33:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966991": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "(that should be \"I and countless others;\" didn't feel like deleting again)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_11:35:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966992": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "inkognegro,<br></br><br>How convenient to dismiss those who disagree with you to be lacking in truthfulness, realism and objectivity.</br><br></br><br>It is much easier than formulating a credible rebuttal to the points raised.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_12:09:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966993": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<a href=\"http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/Speeches/e9c72a28-c05c-4928-ae29-51f54de08df3.htm\" rel=\"nofollow\">Remarks By John McCain on Nuclear Security</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_12:43:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966994": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<a href=\"http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/obama_campaign_banks_superdele.php\" rel=\"nofollow\">Obama has Superdelegates in the fold</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_12:51:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "2042081350805262dea9b76f7cd72640", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966995": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "s & d<br></br><br>Can either of you explain what a \"victory\" in Iraq would be?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_13:06:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "25c2ebf4464c5d95fa227ddd4a0d2fe5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966996": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Ronnie,<br>My opinion, and I'm sure S will weigh in with his/hers:</br><br></br><br>A victory in Iraq will be achieved when the Iraqi government is strong and stable enough to provide for the common welfare of its citizens; when the Iraqi military is strong enough to provide protection for the nation, and when terrorist in Iraq are no longer able to claim that country as a front to launch attacks into our country or our allies.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_13:24:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966997": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "ronnie b,<br></br><br>Victory in Iraq would be the successful establishment of a politically stable Iraq that can govern and defend itself against insurgent militias, outside terrorist groups and interference from hostile neighbors like Iran and Syria.</br><br></br><br>The victory achieved in Iraq through the strength and resolve of the American troops and Iraqi citizens will create another strong ally against state sponsors of terrorism and serve as a powerful deterrent to Syria and Iran, who seek to expand their influence and power in the region.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_13:29:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966998": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Seems to me Iraq was stable until Bu$h went in there under false pretenses and f*cked everything up.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_13:44:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "7c4455626754e1b9bc3be232b1024136", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1966999": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "God help us all.<br></br><br>Iraq Soldier Discusses His \"Kills\" (VIDEO)</br><br></br><br>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/27/iraq-soldier-discusses-hi_n_103698.html</br><br></br><br>In the spring of 2007, a conference was held on the outskirts of Washington, DC. Entitled Winter Soldier: Iraq and Afghanistan, it hearkened back to the Winter Soldier testimonies held three decades ago during the Vietnam War. Of the testimonies we filmed, this one, by Iraq War vet Jon Michael Turner, was the most compelling and intense.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_13:46:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "1231fd2a873665b8a67c9bd4abf4525c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967000": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Val,<br>Brief history lesson, followed by some facts:</br><br></br><br>Most of the participants in the first \"Winter Soldier\" investigation have been proven to be liars, or their stories have proven unverifiable.</br><br></br><br>The new \"Winter Soldiers\"-also known as Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW) held their Winter Soldier conference in Silver Spring, MD. It was not open to the public (in fact, the police had the place surrounded, and had sharpshooters on the roof).</br><br></br><br>A couple weeks ago, IVAW took their info to the Congressional Progressive Caucus. This hearing was open to the public (and I attended), but no one was placed under oath to swear to the atrocities they described.</br><br></br><br>My point in painting this picture is to ask you to be careful about presenting information that no one has been allowed to verify, or that anyone is willing to swear to the truth of.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_14:05:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967001": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "fyi<br></br><br>I just heard Stephanie Tubbs Jones tell Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC that there will be demonstrations in DC this week-end to make certain all the votes are counted.  That must be a reference the busload of Clinton supporters they are bringing in.  I hope Obama's people have a showing planned also.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_14:09:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3e892379e7d442c8970d7cad6f54d5b8", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967002": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "anon,<br></br><br>\"Stable\" in the sense that it was controlled by a murderous tyrant who killed countless Iraqis, sponsored terrorism in the form of Palestinian suicide bombers in their mission to kill innocent Israelis. Saddan Hussein was openly hostile to the will of the international community; defying countless United Nations resolutions and running a corrupt oil-for-food scam that enriched his regime at the expense of his people. </br><br></br><br>Removing Saddam Hussein </br><br>from power and liberating Iraqis from the terror under which they lived was a bipartisan policy supported by Democrats and Republicans.</br><br></br><br>Was the war mismanaged after the toppling of Hussein? Yes.</br><br></br><br>Was Bush late in changing the strategy in Iraq? Yes.</br><br></br><br>Did Bush ultimately change strategy? Yes.</br><br></br><br>Is that strategy now working? Yes.</br><br></br><br>Is the 'surge' counterinsurgency strategy now providing the security  necessary for political reconciliation and stability? Yes.</br><br></br><br>Is the training of Iraqi troops now allowing Iraqis to take the lead in defending the government from militias and terrorists? Yes.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_14:15:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967003": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "But will these facts ever be acknowledged by most liberals? No.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_14:19:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967004": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Hi D - How are you?  <br></br><br>I don't agree with you and am offended with you calling these soldiers liars. I choose to take these soldiers at their word because I see no benefit in them coming out to show what they did in Iraq, in fact, I can see them getting into deep crap because they are talking about it.  To me the reason they are coming out is because they have a conscience and they can't condone what they did and want the American public to be aware of what happens behind the scenes when the camera's are gone in Iraq.   </br><br></br><br>These guys wanted to make sure their story is visable to as much of America as possible because it is an important issue and one we should not overlook. </br><br></br><br></br><br>More stories are found here:http://newsproject.org/</br><br></br><br>Original Story:</br><br>Iraq Soldier Discusses His \"Kills\" (VIDEO)</br><br>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/27/iraq-soldier-discusses-hi_n_103698.html</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_14:22:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "1231fd2a873665b8a67c9bd4abf4525c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967005": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "val,<br></br><br>Why is it that when faced with credible evidence that the 'surge' is working, the huffpo and other anti-war sites find it necessary to resort to demonizing our troops?</br><br></br><br>Even if you believe these soldiers, how is this a rebuttal to the the assertion that the surge is working?</br><br></br><br>\"We're the REAL bad guys\" is not an argument, but an attack against the thousands of brave men and women who put their lives on the line for our freedom and the freedom of the Iraqi people.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_14:30:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967006": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "More on the soldiers to include audio archive, blogs etc.:<br>http://ivaw.org/wintersoldier</br><br></br><br></br><br></br><br>Winter Soldier: Iraq and Afghanistan featured testimony from U.S. veterans who served in those occupations, giving an accurate account of what is really happening day in and day out, on the ground.</br><br></br><br>This four-day event brought together veterans from across the country to testify about their experiences in Iraq and Afghanistan - and present video and photographic evidence. In addition, panels of scholars, veterans, journalists, and other specialists gave context to the testimony. These panels covered everything from the history of the GI resistance movement to the fight for veterans' health benefits and support.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_14:32:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "1231fd2a873665b8a67c9bd4abf4525c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967007": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I keep reading about Hillary supporters planning a huge rally in DC on 5/31 where they are having the Rules and Bylaws committee meeting where Clinton wants the rules changed in her favor.<br></br><br>Does anyone know of Obama supporters planning to show up?   Any DC people here????</br><br></br><br>Stephanie Tubbs Jones was just telling Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC that there will be demonstrations to count all the votes in DC this week-end and I found this at AmericanThinker.com.</br><br></br><br>\u201cMay 22, 2008 </br><br>Hillary supporters to demonstrate at DNC meeting</br><br>Thomas Lifson</br><br>\"Count every vote\" is a very familiar war cry among Democrats. That cry is set to be heard this Saturday in Washington, DC, when the Democratic National Committee Rules Committee meets at the Marriott Wardman Park Hotel in tony Northwest Washington.</br><br>Here is the message from the Hillaryresponders site:  </br><br></br><br>....the DNC Rules Committee is meeting that day to make a determination with respect to MI and FL and we think it is essential to convene in Washington to support our cherished democratic principles, help enfranchise MI and FL and to show that Hillary has equally high numbers of passionate, devoted supporters who believe fervently that she will be the better general candidate and best president.  </br><br></br><br>Our purpose is not to divide the party or attack the DNC or Senator Obama.  At the same time, Hillary's strong support cannot be dismissed in DNC efforts to unify the party. [bolding in original]</br><br></br><br>An interesting test for media bias: how much coverage will this demonstration receive?\"</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_14:32:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3e892379e7d442c8970d7cad6f54d5b8", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967008": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Has anyone seen this <a href=\"http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/northfulton/stories/2008/05/21/obama_0522.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"><br>White Fright</br></a> story out of the Roswell (Georgia) Beacon?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_14:36:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0ef7c2d2394e80ac946bf761976ee6e4", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967009": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Val,<br>Saddam's in his grave and bin Laden's on the run....it's a great day.</br><br></br><br>You may disagree, and that's fine. But my statement wasn't really a agree/disagree statement. In any instance, you can't make your case to the American public with sharpshooters preventing the entrance of \"the American public.\"</br><br></br><br>I've been pretty consistent in my opposition to IVAW's Winter Soldier. At the risk of tooting my own horn, I can send you all the interviews I've done about that topic.</br><br></br><br>My position's been simple:  put the witnesses under oath (oddly enough, that's the same thing we do with people accused of a crime!), and allow them to be questioned. If these things happened, you won't hear a louder cry for punishment than from me. However, if they didn't happen-or no one can prove them-then there needs to be some accountability for that as well (little principle called perjury).</br><br></br><br>The best thing about that is that it doesn't require you to support the war. I'm making an assumption that you believe in justice, right?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_14:39:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967010": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "McCain was heckled this morning during a speech at the University of Denver. After the first interruption, McCain noted that he routinely hold townhall meeting where citizens are able to discuss and debate their differences. <br></br><br>Why do anti-war protestors choose to try and shout down McCain rather than prepare a question which intelligently challenges McCain's position on the war?  Maybe it is because they can't outargue McCain.</br><br></br><br>After the second interruption, McCain simply laughed it off and then said with conviction, \"I will never surrender in Iraq.\"</br><br></br><br>McCain's temper has yet to appear, nor his 'mean streak'. The protesters looks foolish and ineffective.  Well done, Senator.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_14:39:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967011": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "D - these men talk about kicking in doors at the homes of innocent families and killing and raping women and some children. They talk about killing the men riding on their bikes on their way home to families for sport because they were bored.  Shooting up the mosques because it is something to do and their leader awarding 4 day passes for anyone who kills someone/any Iraqi would do via a knife. <br></br><br>There is no benefit of the surge that would outweigh the killing of these innocent people just trying to make it through the day.  I am not buying that.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_14:42:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "1231fd2a873665b8a67c9bd4abf4525c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967012": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "The Hillary demonstrations on 5/31 concern me......it reminds me too much of what Bush did in Florida.   They sent staff people to set the tone get things riled up against Gore.  If you all recall it wasn't a pretty sight.   This whole thing smacks of the Clintons continued bullying posturing.  Its divisive.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_14:42:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3e892379e7d442c8970d7cad6f54d5b8", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967013": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"The protesters looks foolish and ineffective. Well done, Senator\".<br>----------------------------------</br><br>Whatever makes you happy!</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_14:43:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "7c4455626754e1b9bc3be232b1024136", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967014": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Val,<br>And you're willing to accept that as unverified fact?</br><br></br><br>God, I hope you're not a judge.</br><br></br><br>Note that I haven't once said that the members of IVAW who testified were lying. All I'm saying is that they should be held to the same standard we hold people in our criminal justice system to.</br><br></br><br>Do you agree?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_14:48:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967015": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "S,<br>Most liberal protesters look foolish, and are ineffective. Unless their goal is to piss people off, in which case they're an overwhelming success.</br><br></br><br>But hey, at least they're consistent.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_15:08:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967016": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "D - you said -- Most of the participants in the first \"Winter Soldier\" investigation have been proven to be liars<br></br><br>I disagreed with that statement. It is not one individual speaking out, or even two or ten.  There is a huge number of people stepping forward and I accept their stories as truth.  I don't need to hook them up to a lie detector and I do not need them to be put under oath.  These are military men and women who served their country.  It is not in their best interest to speak out against the war nor is it in their best interest to speak about the atrocities they have inflicted on innocent people.  </br><br></br><br>War isn't pretty.  I know that because my brother served in the Army for over 24 years.  He has seen his share of wars, has all kinds of medals and recd. accolades regarding his service.  He loved serving his country, the military was good to him but he did not sugarcoat his experiences.  I have other family members men/women who have also served in the military.  So, yes I believe these soldiers.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_15:12:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "1231fd2a873665b8a67c9bd4abf4525c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967017": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I see McWar's nastiness is coming out.  He says he'll NEVER \"surrender\" in Iraq.  It's only a matter of time before the mean-spirited bully reveals itself in full force on camera.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_15:16:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967018": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Val,<br>Yes, and when was the \"first 'Winter Soldier' conference\" held? </br><br></br><br>If you actually read what I wrote, you'd see that I wasn't referring to IVAW's \"Winter Soldier\" at all.</br><br></br><br>(and I hesitate to emote this strongly, but I feel it's warranted) If you are willing to accept anyone's world as fact, unverified-and, by default, be complicit in the blind slander of our military-then, at best, you're an idiot.</br><br></br><br>I could educate you on the rule in military justice that states that if you see a crime and don't report it, you're just as guilty as the criminal, but based on your response, I'd be wasting my breath. Maybe your brother knows, and he can tell you.</br><br></br><br>It's people like you-who would accept anyone's word against the military as fact, without even seeing if it's true-that make me wonder what the hell I served for while I was in uniform.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_15:22:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967019": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Truthseeker<br></br><br>I know, I can't wait either.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_15:29:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "9fcb7c771a7713dda01aa936fd426bfe", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967020": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "truthseeker,<br></br><br>Did you watch the video? If you feel that is a credible rebuttal to the policy of the 'surge'  or a convincing reason not to vote for McCain that is you right.</br><br></br><br>Will McCain's temper reveal itself before Obama's reveals himself to be an untried rookie and inexperienced lightweight?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_15:31:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967021": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "In yet another episode of Hypocrisy, Inc, Ms. Hillary Clinton <a href=\"http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/05/27/politics/horserace/entry4129369.shtml\" rel=\"nofollow\"> releases an ad on</a> -- of all things -- fiscal responsibility.<br></br><br><i>Clinton's South Dakota spot, \"Responsibility,\" opens with a knock on President Bush.</i></br><br></br><br>\"We are nine trillion dollar debt,\" Clinton says as the spot opens, after which an announcer adds: \"George Bush's spending has sent the economy into a tailspin and put social security in jeopardy.\"</br><br></br><br>Clinton then states, \"We borrow money from the Chinese to buy oil from the Saudis.\" The announcer follows with a promise that \"Clinton will stop spending money America doesn't have. She'll end fifty five billion dollars in giveaways to corporate special interests, reduce the deficit and protect Social Security.\"</br><br></br><br>Clinton then vows to \"get us back to fiscal responsibility.\"</br><br></br><br>That's right, Ms. Hillary, we all know that you can bring fiscal responsibility to this country seeing as how we all have been able to observe you never spending money your own campaign doesn't have. You are a fantastic manager as we have all been able to see! We have all observed your truly fantastic job of keeping your own actual campaign out of debt and staying centered in the real world where bills due need to be actually paid and you can't just lend money from your own pockets when you have a lack of funds.</br><br></br><br>This woman is a walking talking Saturday Night Live skit. Flat-out ridiculous. </br><br></br><br>Next Hypocrisy, Inc episode: Clinton campaign releases an ad about how if elected president, she is going to bring an end to racism/white supremacy in the U.S.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_15:31:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "de3917e982ff609a0d6f7fb5e3c8f079", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967022": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Hi Angela,<br></br><br>I was reading over at DailyKos where they are discussing this issue. And some of the people have contacted the Obama HQ directly. </br><br></br><br>They would rather not have a counter protest. A voter registration drive will be going on that same day. And they would rather people participate in that effort. </br><br></br><br>However, if you are going to participate...well here's a post from someone who received another email from HQ.</br><br></br><br></br><br>\"I just got a call directly from the campaign itself and they've said that anyone interested in attending the RBC Meeting may feel free to go the morning of to see if there are any last-minute seats available (since all the seats available via online are taken). However, if there are no seats available, we are ALL invited to participate in the massive VOTER REGISTRATION DRIVE they are organizing for that same day (details to follow in separate email). The campaign also STRONGLY DISCOURAGES any outside rallying by Obama supporters at the RBC Meeting, as it can be seen as a disruption to the process occurring inside the meeting. They in turn STRONGLY ENCOURAGE we take part in the voter registration drive in our area. I will follow up in a separate email with details on how you can be involved in this drive.\"</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_15:34:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "432619ba625f6a3e6b9013e9117e3759", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967023": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Essence mag chairman switches endorsement from Clinton to Obama.  One superdelegate endorsement from Wyoming.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_15:36:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967024": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "d,<br></br><br>Well reasoned arguments and appeals to objectivity and justice may be lost on val, but not on me. And thanks again for your service!</br><br></br><br>It is sad when smearing the troops or implying McCain is a 'mean old man' become the default rebuttals to an argument effectively citing the success of the surge.</br><br></br><br>IMO, like the surge is succeeding in Iraq, we are succeeding in the debate here at JJP.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_15:39:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967025": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "D- you mentioned that President Hussein terrorized people - who put him in power in the first place? You don't mention the history of the region, how the US & UK remade the borders to cause maximum strife or the intent behind those actions. Iraq had rulers that the they deemed unfriendly to \"Western\" purposes and took them out to install their own people who they thought they could control. Eventually these dictators turn on the US and then the US decides they're 'bad' and must 'liberate' people. It's BS! And those soldiers would not have their stories verified by the military unless there was going to be a court-martial procedure against them. I am certain they did all the horrible things they've claimed to do - but what they've done is not unique unfortunately. There has not been enough discussion about the women serving in the military who've been raped and abused while serving either. War is Hell! Why do you think so many people come back with PTSD?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_15:42:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "1572c9b90152e199379cfb228c0cc759", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967026": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "As for the protests at the meeting, I feel the Clinton's are hoping for a violent confrontation.  You get two camps in the same vicinity where there are sore feelings on both sides, ugly things are said and next thing you know...  <br></br><br>The Clinton side has posted an event on the Obama website related to these protests.  Completely ignoring them would deflate much of their protest.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_15:45:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967027": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "The  Jubilee Act is up for vote in the Senate on Tuesday to cancel African debt.<br></br><br>http://www.jubileeusa.org</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_15:45:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "1572c9b90152e199379cfb228c0cc759", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967028": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Hearts,<br>Yes, war is hell. That's probably the only enduring message from IVAW-war sucks.</br><br></br><br>I'm going to pose a question to you: if you were in the military, and you woke up one morning to discover that someone you served with was accusing you of randomly killing Iraqi citizens, wouldn't you at least want to question that person to see where he got that info from to clear your name?</br><br></br><br>The discussion about women being raped/abused in the military is one that we should have. IVAW brought that up to....<i><b>behind closed doors.</b></i> Are you going to try and convince me that's a reasonable place to have the discussion?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_15:53:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967029": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "truthseeker,<br></br><br>My thing is to let them appear crazy like the person leading them. </br><br></br><br>The Obama campaign needs to remain organized and register voters as they plan to do on that day. </br><br></br><br>How is it going to help him otherwise, if people are disrupting the meeting? </br><br></br><br>You said that the Clinton's supporters posted an event on Obama's website?</br><br></br><br>Unbelieveable....let's not lose focus.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_15:53:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "432619ba625f6a3e6b9013e9117e3759", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967030": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "S,<br>The insurgency must be fought-and defeated-at home and abroad.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_15:54:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967031": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Lots of good discussion here today...but thought a moment of levity might be welcome... apparently a new McCain ad inadvertantly features an Obama supporter! Check it out over at the Political Carnival <a href=\"http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2008/05/mccain-ad-features-obama-supporter.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2008/0...</a>   Made me smile!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_15:56:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "c0503647f8088b08f4996f39cd0531f4", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967032": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "TexasGirl,<br></br><br>yeah, here's a paste of the event:</br><br></br><br>\u201cIT\u2019S NO JOKE! COUNT EVERY VOTE\u201d Do not leave Florida and Michigan voters out in the cold in November 2008 (Community Service)</br><br>Our mission:</br><br></br><br>We have over 300,000 signatures!</br><br></br><br>How can THE DEMOCRATS brag about REGISTERING a million new voters while disenfranchising 2.3 million voters?</br><br></br><br>Our goal is to obtain even more online and at our \u201cIT\u2019S NO JOKE! COUNT EVERY VOTE\u201d Rally at the World\u2019s Famous Laugh Factory on Friday, May 30th, 2008 at 12-noon (8001 Sunset Blvd., Hollywood, CA 90046) where there will be a press conference with special guest speakers and a FedEx person on hand to overnight the signatures to Howard Dean and the DNC Bylaws and Rules Committee.</br><br></br><br></br><br>Hello, Teri Bernardi would like you to visit the following online campaign, by iPetitions: <a href=\"http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/1234Whatarewefighting4%3C/br%3E%3Cbr%3E%3C/br%3E%3Cbr%3EEven\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/1234Whatarew...</a> David Axelrod, a top adviser to Barack Obama agrees that the DNC must seat the Florida & Michigan delegates in order to win the White House in November.</br><br></br><br>MySpace URL: <a href=\"http://www.myspace.com/everyvotecounts4you%3C/br%3E%3Cbr%3ETime:\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.myspace.com/everyvotecounts4you</br>...</a>  Friday, May 30 at 12:00 PM</br><br>Duration:  1 hour</br><br>Host:  Chris Jackson</br><br>Location:  </br><br>World\u2019s Famous Laugh Factory on the Sunset Strip (Los Angeles, CA)</br><br>8001 Sunset Blvd., Hollywood, CA 90046</br><br>Los Angeles, CA 90049</br><br>View Map:  </br><br></br><br>    * Google Maps</br><br>    * MapQuest</br><br>    * Yahoo! Maps</br><br></br><br>Directions:  On the Sunset Strip</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_16:01:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967033": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "heartsandflowers,<br></br><br>Bringing up a past that cannot be changed in order to justify your position that we are the problem has little bearing the argument advocating the success of the surge.</br><br></br><br>'We never should have gone to war in Iraq in the first place' is becoming a worn out, out-dated stance in light of the success we are having in Iraq.</br><br></br><br>Looking forward, how does an immediate withdrawal from Iraq, regardless of the positive progress we are making, help the Iraqi people, deter Iran in it's quest to expand its power and influence, acquire nuclear weapons and destroy Israel?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_16:07:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967034": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "lexus,<br>Are we sure it's an Obama shirt? LOL</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_16:17:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967035": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "D,<br></br><br>I have one. I noticed it right off.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_16:33:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "432619ba625f6a3e6b9013e9117e3759", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967036": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Oh, well. LOL.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_16:35:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967037": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "A post from Daily Kos says the Obama Camp does NOT want any protests! I think they must have this thing wrapped.<br></br><br>Obama has shown integrity throughout his campaign---lets honor what he says. It's over folks.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_16:48:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "7c4455626754e1b9bc3be232b1024136", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967038": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I agree a rally or protest outside is a bad idea...  The Clinton's are desperate and looking for any opening.  Let them go away empty-handed.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_17:19:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967039": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "There's really nothing to protest.  The rules were established and adhered to by Senator Obama.<br></br><br>If Hillary wants to challenge the rules let her and her supporters do that alone.</br><br></br><br>I agree with Truthseeker that Camp Crazy would like nothing more than for this meeting to turn into a spectacle.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_17:19:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "9fcb7c771a7713dda01aa936fd426bfe", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967040": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "D - you said \"It's people like you-who would accept anyone's word against the military as fact,  without even seeing if it's true that make me wonder what the hell I served for while I was in uniform.\"<br></br><br>I am not sheep.  I can't force me in a direction I don't want to go and I don't automatically become blind to everything around me and see only what you want me to see.  I can make my own judgements based on what I see, know and hear.  It is easy in this internet age to research information, educate  yourself to get a comprehensive picture of a situation vs. a one sided view Bush/McCain/you would like me to see.  I hear what you are saying I just don't agree with it.  </br><br></br><br>BTW - I am not opposed to all wars just DUMB wars.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_17:36:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "1231fd2a873665b8a67c9bd4abf4525c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967041": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Next time the Clintons whine about how we need to end this primary here are some quotes courtesy of The Jed Report<br>In April '92, Clinton camp called Brown victory \"impossible\"</br><br>I have never seen anything like it. I have never seen a candidate treated so disrespectfully just for running. ... I can't believe it. It is just frantic the way they are trying to push and pressure and bully all these superdelegates to come out. -- Bill Clinton, on Sunday</br><br></br><br>:: ::</br><br></br><br>Without editorial comment, here's a list of quotes and statements about the 1992 Democratic nomination battle from March and April of that year. (Links after the jump.)</br><br></br><br>\"Things I see happening in the Brown campaign lead me to believe something destructive is happening. I'd say it's time for Democrats to link arms, dig in our heels, set our sights and work together to put Bill Clinton in the White House in 1992.\"</br><br>-- Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin (NYT, 3/27/92)</br><br></br><br>\"In an interview, Ronald H. Brown, the party chairman, said he wanted to maintain his neutrality but was compelled to speak out against what he described as the former California Governor's 'scorched-earth policy' of verbal assault on Mr. Clinton's record and character. \"</br><br>-- NYT, 3/27/92</br><br></br><br>\"It's mathematically impossible for Brown to get the nomination.\"</br><br>-- Clinton spokesman George Stephanopoulos on Clinton's last foe (NYT, 4/8/92)</br><br></br><br>\"In the future, people will look back upon this week and this campaign as a turning point, not for Bill Clinton,  but for the Democratic Party and for America.\"</br><br>-- Bill Clinton, after winning New York's primary (NYT, 4/8/92)</br><br></br><br>\"People are starting to rally around the flag.\"</br><br>-- Dee Dee Myers, Clinton Press Sec'y (NYT, 4/10/92)</br><br></br><br>\"It's time to close ranks. We cannot wait until July when we already know who has earned the right to be our nominee and who will be our nominee.\"</br><br>-- West Virginia Sen. Jay Rockefeller (NYT, 4/11/92)</br><br></br><br>\"Indeed, reports circulating on Capitol Hill said the Clinton campaign was mounting a strong campaign to swing uncommitted senators behind the Arkansas Governor, and that Ronald H. Brown, the party chairman, was taking part in them.\"</br><br>-- NYT, 4/29/92</br><br></br><br>\"I cannot imagine a set of circumstances that would keep Bill Clinton from having a majority of the delegates by the end of the primary season.\"</br><br>-- Democratic Party Chairman Ronald H. Brown (NYT, 4/29/92)</br><br></br><br>\"Mr. Brown added that he had long hoped for an early nominee 'so we can focus our time and attention on George Bush.'\"</br><br>-- NYT, 4/29/92</br><br></br><br>:: :: </br><br></br><br>March 20, 1992:</br><br></br><br></br><br>Mr. Clinton is already close to the halfway mark in the number of delegates needed to win the nomination and has a 7-to-1 edge over Mr. Brown, who is running a maverick, anti-establishment campaign. Many Democrats said that barring an unexpected collapse by Mr. Clinton's campaign, it is difficult to see how Mr. Brown can overtake the Governor. </br><br></br><br>\"It certainly brings it much closer to a conclusion,\" said Ronald H. Brown, the Democratic national chairman. \"You could argue that it's theoretically possible for Jerry Brown to mount a come-from-behind challenge, but the math and the reality of Bill Clinton's momentum certainly work against him.\" </br><br></br><br>March 27, 1992:</br><br></br><br>The chairman of the Democratic Party issued an unusual rebuke yesterday to one of his party's two remaining candidates for President, saying Edmund G. Brown Jr. has \"crossed the line in terms of inappropriate attacks\" against Gov. Bill Clinton of Arkansas. </br><br></br><br>In an interview, Ronald H. Brown, the party chairman, said he wanted to maintain his neutrality but was compelled to speak out against what he described as the former California Governor's \"scorched-earth policy\" of verbal assault on Mr. Clinton's record and character. </br><br></br><br>The party chairman's remarks came on a day when other leading Democrats appeared to be closing ranks behind Mr. Clinton, who holds a substantial lead in the number of delegates accumulated but has encountered persistent unease over his candidacy among party regulars.</br><br></br><br>...Mr. Harkin said one reason he had decided to endorse Mr. Clinton was to try to put an end to some of the acrimony that has developed between the two remaining major Democratic candidates. He also said that Mr. Brown had not sought union support until after Mr. Harkin dropped out of the race. </br><br></br><br>\"What I'm afraid now is that we may be entering a destructive phase,\" Mr. Harkin said in a television appearance with Mr. Clinton that was sent by satellite to a Washington meeting of Democratic fund raisers. \"Things I see happening in the Brown campaign lead me to believe something destructive is happening.\" </br><br></br><br>Mr. Harkin said he had put aside the political differences he had with Mr. Clinton during the primary campaign and he appealed for party unity. \"The differences between me and Bill are minuscule compared to our differences with George Bush,\" Mr. Harkin said at a news conference here. </br><br></br><br>\"I'd say it's time for Democrats to link arms, dig in our heels, set our sights and work together to put Bill Clinton in the White House in 1992.\" </br><br></br><br></br><br>April 8, 1992: </br><br></br><br>Clinton aides breathed their first sighs of relief late last week after their own surveys of New York voters began to show that their support had solidified while Mr. Brown's had begun to soften. </br><br></br><br>\"In the future, people will look back upon this week and this campaign as a turning point, not for Bill Clinton, but for the Democratic Party and for America,\" he told his cheering supporters. </br><br></br><br>...\"It's mathematically impossible for Brown to get the nomination, and it would take Tsongas about 90 percent of the remaining delegates to win,\" said George Stephanopoulos, Mr. Clinton's deputy campaign manager. \"So lightning would have to strike. But we're going to keep our sneakers on, just in case.\"</br><br></br><br>April 9, 1992:</br><br></br><br>A tally by The New York Times showed that Mr. Clinton had gained 162 delegates on Tuesday, putting his total at 1,279 of the 2,145 needed for nomination.</br><br></br><br>...Indeed, reports circulating on Capitol Hill said the Clinton campaign was mounting a strong campaign to swing uncommitted senators behind the Arkansas Governor, and that Ronald H. Brown, the party chairman, was taking part in them. Mr. Brown said he had made no request of any superdelegate, although he conceded that he had talked to many \"who were reassessing their positions on the day after Bill Clinton took an extraordinary leap forward.\"</br><br></br><br>April 10, 1992: </br><br></br><br>Dee Dee Myers, Mr. Clinton's press secretary, insisted that \"people are starting to rally around the flag,\" and she mentioned Mr. Rockefeller [who was scheduled to endorse later in the week] as an example. She also said the Arkansas Governor plans to meet with uncommitted superdelegates on Capitol Hill on April 29, the day after the Pennsylvania primary, when Congress will return from the Easter recess.</br><br></br><br>Ronald H. Brown, the party chairman, has been phoning uncommitted delegates and others, \"discussing the lay of the political territory,\" as he described it. He denied putting pressure on anybody, but others in the party said he was sending a subtle but clear message that it was time to halt the squabbling.</br><br></br><br>April 11, 1992:</br><br></br><br>The executive board of the Service Employees International Union, which claims one million members, and Senator John D. Rockefeller 4th, Democrat of West Virginia, endorsed Mr. Clinton in separate announcements.</br><br></br><br>\"It's time to close ranks,\" he said. \"We cannot wait until July when we already know who has earned the right to be our nominee and who will be our nominee,\" he said. </br><br></br><br>Mr. Rockefeller, who is the party's finance chairman, considered running for President this year and has moderated three forums on health care with the Democratic candidates. His endorsement was timed in part to offset the notion that Democrats in Congress and other elected officials who will be superdelegates to the Democratic National Convention in July are reluctant to climb aboard Mr. Clinton's bandwagon. </br><br></br><br>\"Our fight now is with a man named George Bush, not with other Democrats,\" Mr. Rockefeller said. \"Our weapons are ideas. Our leader is Bill Clinton.\"</br><br></br><br>April 12, 1992:</br><br></br><br>In a signal that he was prepared to temper the divisive tone of his campaign for President, Edmund G. Brown Jr. said today that he would back the Democratic Party's Presidential nominee.</br><br></br><br>...Ronald H. Brown, the Democratic national chairman, paying heed to the scores of placards waving in the audience for Gov. Bill Clinton, Governor Brown or former Senator Paul E. Tsongas, acknowledged that many Democrats think the primary campaign for President is still unsettled, despite Mr. Clinton's overwhelming lead in delegates.</br><br></br><br>\"I know there are some out there who are saying, 'My God, We need another candidate,' \" Ronald Brown said. But he implored delegates to follow the lead of voters in the primaries so far and \"keep our eye on the prize.\"</br><br></br><br></br><br>In a call for unity, Mr. Brown declared: \"We can and we must win, but it's going to require the absolute solidarity of our party. We are a very peculiar institution -- the only institution in the world I know where we are harder on each other than on our own adversaries.\" </br><br></br><br>...It was clear today that former Governor Brown was intent on shedding his role as an angry critic of the Democratic Party and its leaders. Only two days ago, he wondered aloud whether Ronald Brown was \"man enough\" to cancel the rest of the primaries and anoint Mr. Clinton the party's Presidential nominee. But today Governor Brown passed up opportunities to criticize of the party chairman and Mr. Clinton. He saved his fire for \"the citadel of governance that has failed the principles of this nation.\"</br><br></br><br>April 29, 1992:</br><br></br><br>Ronald H. Brown, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, said tonight, \"I cannot imagine a set of circumstances that would keep Bill Clinton from having a majority of the delegates by the end of the primary season, based on his performance today.\" Mr. Brown added that he had long hoped for an early nominee \"so we can focus our time and attention on George Bush.\"</br><br></br><br>... The polls Tuesday showed Mr. Clinton running well across the board, even with some voting groups that had proven less supportive of him in the past, including Roman Catholics. He carried more than half of the white vote over all, 7 in 10 of the black voters and 6 in 10 of the union households.</br><br></br><br>Some analysts said his strength reflected a simple fact of life: For the first time in a very long time, Mr. Clinton was not facing a barrage of character questions. \"He still has a long way to go,\" said Geoffrey Garin, a Democratic poll taker, \"but he's got the chance to run the kind of campaign he needs to run. He got that chance in Pennsylvania; he wasn't fending off a new charge every day.\"</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_18:16:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "e8929a93ccff877492df9b177a3888cf", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967042": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "djchefron said... <br>.....</br><br></br><br>Now, here you go again...dropping truth and logic when it comes to Billary...</br><br></br><br>How.dare.you.</br><br></br><br></br><br>BWA HA HA HA H A HA HA</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_18:28:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967043": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "thanks Texas girl in l.a.<br></br><br>I'm in Kentucky.....I'll be saying my prayers all goes well.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_18:45:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3e892379e7d442c8970d7cad6f54d5b8", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967044": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Obama wore a light suit today. I thought his speech was good as usual, but it was a serious speech dealing with issue #1 (the economy) so he should've worn a dark suit.<br></br><br>To the mongers, the anti-war aren't going to agree with the pro-war. Personally, I would never agree with OCCUPYING a soverign nation anymore than I would be ok with being occupied. I remember 4 or 5 years ago when soldiers were interviewed and said, straight out, that they were guarding the oil pipeline.So to some of us, our tax $s have been paying for oil companies to siphon those people's gas out of their land, and we are still being charged astronomical prices (paying twice). Sadam Hussein was in the way. John McCain himself recently said that the war was started over oil. Bush & cheney are HEAVILY connected to the oil industry as well as those companies that have received no-bid contracts (Halliburton, KBR). But people need to have a different reason to put their lives on the line, thus the whole political, WMD, al Qaeda, yada-yada string of anything but oil excuses.This is what is meant when people use the term, \"unjust war.\" Now that we have \"bombed Iraq back to the stone age,\" I think we should help them rebuild and get out. What we did to their country was unconscionable.</br><br></br><br>Lanny Davis is a McCain operative. I read it yesterday on DailyKos. That explains some things and is another verification that the MSM sucks.</br><br></br><br>The kkklinton campaigen death watch: 7 days til liberation!</br><br></br><br>Will she take it to the convention? Historically, anytime it has gone to the convention, the dem candidate has lost. I'm sure she knows that.</br><br></br><br>The <a href=\"http://Moveon.org\" rel=\"nofollow\">Moveon.org</a> ad about Charlie Black is scurrilous! Whoo-wee. I think it's valid. No one would tolerate a nazi sympathizer or person affiliated with a so-called militant group or...You know, anyone controversial.</br><br></br><br>I read an article Rikyrah posted called \"Running Mate Choice,\" and I thought it was a true vanity piece. I disagreed with a lot of what the writer said. For one,he spoke repeatedly about Obamas's lack of experience and how he is going to need help doing whatever. I'm thinking that this writer is dense. He has run the most brilliant campaign in modern history. He has used the primaries to build  bases and open offices in 50 states that can & will be utilized in the GE. He is registering voters for the benefit of the party as well as for his own benefit.He is building a data base.He has surplus money. I think he'll be fine. I think he will be able to figure out how to implement what he wants to implement.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_19:13:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "889c732285beb0fc252d78b61edaa231", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967045": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Val,<br>People who will stand by while our troops are slandered have a special place in hell reserved for them.</br><br></br><br>Now....</br><br></br><br>Has someone told Obama that his uncle couldn't have liberated Auschwitz?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_19:23:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967046": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Teacher<br></br><br>I agree about the suit - I didn't like the tan.</br><br></br><br>I think he looks better a darker suit.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_19:23:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "9fcb7c771a7713dda01aa936fd426bfe", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967047": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Did anyone notice the tick under McCain's left eye when he said he'd never surrender in Iraq?  Involuntary muscle contraction...McCain is a mean, nasty bully.  He was smiling but enraged by that protester.  It's just a matter of time now.<br></br><br>Teacher,</br><br>I dunno, I think the dark one suits him better.  I didn't like the red tie with it either.  You're right, economy...stick to navy or black.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_19:26:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967048": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@ d,<br></br><br>I suppose it matters not that Obama was using that story to illustrate the mental/emotional trauma of war and why soldiers need screening and treatment for PTSD.  </br><br></br><br>I suppose for the hypocrites, it matters only that the details of an old family story went awry in the telling.</br><br></br><br>Vets cannot wait for Republicans to get their heads out of their asses.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_19:32:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967049": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "About McCain's VP choices...why didn't anyone tell me that Crist was SINGLE?<br></br><br>George Hamilton tan, no silver hair out of place AND SINGLE?</br><br></br><br>Oh heck no, the GOP won't accept that AT ALL.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_19:47:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967050": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "More fun with body language...<br></br><br>Isn't it intersting how George Jr is always touching McCain in pictures?  Especially interesting in how he touches him.   Bush makes a point to touch McCain at the scruff of his neck, leading him like a little bitch.  Who can forget that awkward hug where the shorter McCain's face is pressed into Bush's chest.  George always throws his arm around McCain's shoulder 'cause he knows McCain can't stand it.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_19:48:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967051": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@ d,<br></br><br>No, I said that last sentence based on my accute awareness of your heads up your asses.</br><br></br><br>And speaking of details, what did you think of McCain's confusing Shia and Sunni.  Also, what do you think of PTSD and the soldiers - like McCain - who return to their family's suffering from it?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_19:52:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967052": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Rikyrah, The CBN journalist said today that Crist wasn't favored by evangelicals because he is or has been pro-life. <br></br><br>I had as weird vision of the McCain weekend candidate gathering being something like Flavor of Love where they have to show why they are for McCain. I kinda like Lindsey Graham except for him being in the 527 with Lieberman.He seems smart and is quite glib. I think he is on the VP list as well. I like Huckabee, but I haven't yet forgiven him for the so-called joke about shooting Barak. I wouldn't think that he would stoop so low.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_19:57:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "889c732285beb0fc252d78b61edaa231", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967053": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Truth,<br>I thought it presented an opportunity for the DNC to pounce on McCain, which they did...and rightly so. </br><br>Only reason evertong not kicking and screaming as loud over Obama is because you expect those gaffes from someone who never served.</br><br></br><br>As someone with PTSD, I think it's very serious. Anything else you wanna know about it?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_20:01:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967054": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Truthseeker<br></br><br>I saw tat tick and te tight clench in his jaw.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_20:01:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "9fcb7c771a7713dda01aa936fd426bfe", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967055": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Truthseeker, McCain is physically impaired. He can't raise his arms up. He can't even comb his hair. Thats why he hugs W down low (excuse the pun).", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_20:01:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "889c732285beb0fc252d78b61edaa231", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967056": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "teacher,<br></br><br>I know he's physically impaired.  The optics were bad, as we all know they don't like each other, and it made McCain seem like the panderer he is accused of being.  I think George is delighting in making the bully grovel.</br><br></br><br>I don't have a pavlovian response to his service and understand he's always been a bully.</br><br></br><br>Those who feel it ought to know it, but unfortunately, sometimes the ones who've been there are more cruel to their brothers in the same situation.  It proves that military service doesn't make one automatically comapassionate to his/her brothers.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_20:22:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967057": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Great segment on Hardball with Joan Walsh and Joe Madsison.  Listen to an bitter and argumentative Joan rant about how could we act like Hillary is capable of making a statement like this and summoning up the worst fears and tragedy of our democracy, to act like this woman is capable of that..<br></br><br>Well Joan,  we don't have to act.  She DID say it.  People DID respond viscerally and she DID pointedly refuse to apologize to the Obama's.  Hillary gave a backhanded apology to the Kennedy's and wasn't generous enough to include Obama in even that lame apology.</br><br></br><br>Joan knows the truth but refuses to acknowledge it.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_20:38:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967058": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "d,<br></br><br>truthseeker isn't interested in serious debate, preferring personal attacks. The litany of stock responses from the left cannot camouflage the fact that they cannot defend their candidate's position on Iraq, Iran and foreign policy in general.</br><br></br><br>I too suffer from PTSD, not from combat related trauma, but from early childhood sexual abuse. One need not fall victim to tragic, horrific circumstances.</br><br></br><br>Here again truthseeker is throwing PTSD around to personally attack McCain as unfit, without being informed. </br><br></br><br></br><br>I will continue to challenge Obama on his positions on the issues. IMO he is woefully lacking in experience and judgment.</br><br></br><br>I have yet to read on this thread a  challenging rebuttal to our contention that the surge is working and that Obama's promise to immediately withdrawal our troop regardless of the progress demonstrates how unprepared he is to lead our nation at this time.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_20:38:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "bbb5f18b1f882407561a7f27f4fb2937", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967059": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "My psychosis is I like to savage Right wing wingnuts.  They are so deliciously deserving.  Perhaps it's my sanity.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_20:49:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967060": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Hi Everybody,<br></br><br>Thanks for the great posts everyone. Thanks djcheferon. </br><br></br><br>There in some twenty dozen quotes is unequivocal proof the nomination was wrapped up for Bubba well before June. But hey, most knew that. If they did not, they do not deserve to be journalist. Most of the MSM just allowed the crazy lady to repeat the meme over and over until she started to it believe herself. Enablers I tell ya.</br><br></br><br>Funniest thing today on Hardball (Chris is SO going to get it)...</br><br>They were showing footage of Bubba doing his schitck \" they are trying to push her out of the campaign, never has a candidate been so DISRPECTED...yada yada\". Camera pans back to Chris and he deadpans \"Did he respect her\"? Of course we all know what he was referring to.</br><br></br><br>I thought I was going to bust a gut. Ha, the irony.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_20:58:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "cda55c7832b52db750659b8f518a520f", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967061": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "So, in Truth's world, veterans who gave served this country in ways she can't even imagine are reduced to \"right wing wingnuts.\"<br></br><br>There's respect for you.</br><br></br><br>Anyone else share that sentiment?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_21:03:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967062": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Truthseeker<br></br><br>I saw that angry Joan Walsh.  Do you think she was feigning angry for the sake of the argument that illary had nothing to apologize for?</br><br></br><br>Naw - she's pissed.  Sorry girls it's over.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_21:05:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "9fcb7c771a7713dda01aa936fd426bfe", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967063": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "McCain is clearly damaged.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_21:07:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "9fcb7c771a7713dda01aa936fd426bfe", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967064": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Conflate much d?  <br></br><br>If you want to take me down you'll have to use some other tack.  I'll respectfully give you 3 tries.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_21:07:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967065": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i>Great segment on Hardball with Joan Walsh and Joe Madsison. Listen to an bitter and argumentative Joan rant about how could we act like Hillary is capable of making a statement like this and summoning up the worst fears and tragedy of our democracy, to act like this woman is capable of that..<br></br><br>Well Joan, we don't have to act. She DID say it. People DID respond viscerally and she DID pointedly refuse to apologize to the Obama's. Hillary gave a backhanded apology to the Kennedy's and wasn't generous enough to include Obama in even that lame apology.</br><br></br><br>Joan knows the truth but refuses to acknowledge it.</br><br></br><br></br></i><br></br><br>truthseeker,</br><br></br><br>I went back and forth as to what was my favorite segment on Hardball today - that exchange, or Roger Simon just hammering on Hillpatine. I'll go with Joe Madison. Joan ' My Magazine Actually Called Obama UPPITY' Walsh bitching and moaning about </br><br>'the demonizing of BILLARY?' </br><br></br><br>Joe looked like he was about to crack up. </br><br></br><br>I know I called out, ' Bitch, please'. </br><br></br><br>Joe told it like it was - Black folk ain't having NO PARTS OF THE CLINTONS, and saw the statement for what it was.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_21:08:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967066": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "ms.martin,<br></br><br>I know...she was practically shaking. I think she knows it's the end but can't bring herself to blame Hillary for her own demise.  She blames Obama and sexism..even though no sexism came from the O campaign.</br><br></br><br>I worry how this group of women will be able to live with themselves when the history books are written and the documentaries are made.  They are failing to show honour in a difficult situation.  They will not look back and be proud.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_21:13:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967067": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "How would you know anything about showing honor?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_21:16:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967068": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Truthseeker<br></br><br>I agree.  She won't be proud tomorrow when she sees the tape of that scowl on her face long after that conversation ended.</br><br></br><br>Anger is very unattractive.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_21:18:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "9fcb7c771a7713dda01aa936fd426bfe", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967069": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Hillary must have been planning an all-girl team.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_21:19:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "9fcb7c771a7713dda01aa936fd426bfe", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967070": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I hope O will build good relationships w/ Nigeria & (dare I say it)Venezuela and get the oil flowin & the prices to drop, even just a little. A whole bunch of folks will have to shut up! It would be such a coup. I would also like to see the development of highspeed rail. The airline industry can't handle it, and we really need an alternative.We can model ours after Europe or Japan. I hope we will be able to work on alternatives to oil and I'm not 100% against nuclear even though it's scary. <br></br><br>What about Libertarianism? I don't know much about them. John Stossel, Tucker Carlson & Glen Beck are Libertarians. Unimpressive, I know. I think they believe in every person for him/herself. They believe in the least government of all. I would let them haul their own garbage and fix the streets in front of their homes. Go for it.</br><br></br><br>If you want to change political parties, you have to go to the DMV and fill out a new form. I think I'm going to register indy. I can't say that dem fits me any longer.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_21:45:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "889c732285beb0fc252d78b61edaa231", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967071": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "@ d,<br></br><br>You've got 2 more tries.  Use them wisely.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_21:46:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967072": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Libertarians strongly oppose government infringement of civil liberties such as restrictions on free expression (e.g., speech, press, or religious belief or practice), prohibitions on voluntary association, or encroachments on persons or property. Some make an exception when the infringement is a result of due process to establish or punish criminal behaviour. As such, libertarians oppose any type of censorship (i.e., claims of offensive speech), or pre-trial forfeiture of property (as is commonly seen in drug crime and computer crime proceedings). Furthermore, most libertarians reject the distinction between political and commercial speech or association, a legal distinction often used to protect one type of activity and not the other from government intervention.[20]<br></br><br>Libertarians also oppose any laws restricting personal or consensual behaviour, as well as laws against victimless crimes. As such, they believe that individual choices for products or services should not be limited by government licensing requirements or state-granted monopolies, or in the form of trade barriers that restrict choices for products and services from other nations (see Free trade). They also tend to oppose legal prohibitions on recreational drug use, gambling, and prostitution. They believe that citizens should be free to take risks, even to the point of actual harm to themselves. For example, while most libertarians may personally agree with the majority who favour the use of seatbelts, libertarians reject mandating their use as paternalistic. Similarly, many believe that the United States Food and Drug Administration (and other similar bodies in other countries like Health Canada in Canada) shouldn't ban unproven medical treatments, that any decisions on treatment be left to patient and doctor only, and that government should be limited to passing non-binding judgments about efficacy or safety, if it is allowed to do anything at all.[20]</br><br></br><br>Some libertarians believe such freedoms are a universal birthright, and they accept any material inequalities or wanton behaviour, as long as it harms no one else, likely to result from such a policy of governmental non-intervention. They see economic inequality as an outcome of people's freedom to choose their own actions, which may or may not be profitable. However, many libertarians believe that extreme concentration of wealth in a few hands is a result of state intervention, and that liberty ultimately leads to a more diffuse distribution though not necessarily an equal one. A prime cause of extreme wealth disparity stems from government granting special privileges to some businesses at the expense of consumers and other businesses.[citation needed] Many libertarians, including Ron Paul and Murray Rothbard, consider that the most fundamental government grant of special privilege involves the legitimization and protection of fractional reserve banking through the Federal Reserve and the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. They therefore call for the abolition of the Federal Reserve System.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_21:59:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "889c732285beb0fc252d78b61edaa231", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967073": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Have you guys heard about McCains lobbyist who's working to keep omeonwer's from getting help with their mortgages?<br></br><br>Identifed as enabler of the mortgage scandle - Phil Graham.  Doesn't look good.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_22:03:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "9fcb7c771a7713dda01aa936fd426bfe", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967074": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Yeah, she was pissed. It was way too personal. Funny as hell though.<br>Part of me wants to say, forget her and her base. I know that is not realistic. I simply do not understand their logic. All I hear, \"it is OUR/HER time\". Now, they are starting with lame as sexist sh**, like Obama sometimes refers to female reporters as \"sweetie\". And? Not a good thing. But you know what, I vividly recall McCain losing his temper with a female reporter aboard his private jet. I thought he was going to pimp slap her with his good arm. That's who they should be worried about.</br><br></br><br>I liked when Joe asked \"who is doing the questioning here, you or Chris? I could be wrong, but I notice some White Hillary supporters will become really brazen when matched up against a male counterpart of late. They don't quite seem to give the same push back to the host. Witness todays episode with Joan Walsh of Salon. She really did not become combative until Joe started to speak. Last week Lisa Caputo had her ass handed to her by Chris and she couldn't say sh**, but a day later she was on with (I think Jamal) and she was pulling the crazy white lady routine. Then again, I see this type of behavior of the very candidate they support.</br><br></br><br>It's like, where was this gravitas when you were up against Matthews.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_22:05:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "cda55c7832b52db750659b8f518a520f", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967075": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\" I thought he was going to pimp slap her with his good arm. \"<br></br><br>RAOTFLMAO</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_22:11:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "9fcb7c771a7713dda01aa936fd426bfe", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967076": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "D- Bringing up the past relating to why this country occupies another is a valid argument. You can't just talk about a current action without reviewing the entire history. Also past actions tend to favor future actions. You can't ignore something because it makes you uncomfortable or doesn't fit in your limited viewpoints on a subject. I have family that has served and there are some things people never want to talk about in the open about unnecessarily bring harm to civilians and sometimes other soldiers. These themes have been plot devices in movies as well. The writers weren't just pulling ideas out of thin air either. And if I was accused of doing something I didn't do I'd be upset but trust in the system. It is far more likely that the opposite occurs where violations go unreported. Fighting for independence from tyranny and colonialism and looting a nation of its resources are not the same thing.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_22:24:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "1572c9b90152e199379cfb228c0cc759", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967077": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "honey01,<br></br><br>You're right, the way she took on Joe.  It was like she was trying to put the black man in his place.</br><br></br><br>As for McCain and that reporter...talk about not answering a reporters question.  You didn't hear a peep out of any of those women.  McCain has called his wife \"cunt\".  He has made a crude joke about Chelsea being ugly because Janet Reno is her father, which he had to apologize for.  </br><br></br><br>All I hear from these paper tiger feminists is how they're going to vote for anti-choice McCain if Hillary is not on the ticket.  But, they put Obama through hell because he's a black man and they want to emasculate him, and make him bow down to them.  Ms.martin, you are so right about their unattractiveness.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_22:31:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967078": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Obama, who hasn\u2019t been to Iraq since 2006 (when the situation was a weeee bit different) said no thanks to John McCain's proposal for a joint trip to Iraq.<br></br><br>Apparently Obama learned all he need to know about Iraq from watching Olbermann.</br><br></br><br>I guess the idea of sitting down with American troops, their leaders and the elected government of Iraq isn\u2019t as interesting as a world tour of thugs and killers. Perhaps if McCain had suggested skipping Baghdad and going right on to Tehran to chat with Ahmadinejad Obama would have been more interested.</br><br></br><br>I hope McCain can get some mileage out this. He can beat Obama up for not wanting to see first hand what\u2019s going on in Iraq but also for being unwilling to put partisan politics aside for the sake of the country.</br><br></br><br>Obama '08: Hope, Change and Bitterly Clinging to an Old Narrative.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_22:36:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "7c4455626754e1b9bc3be232b1024136", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967079": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Kinda off topic but I emailed this cat to let him know I plan to boycott their sponsors and am encouraging everyone I know to do the same until they can Liz Trotta for suggesting Obama be \"knocked off.\"<br></br><br><b>Brian Lewis</b></br><br>Executive Vice President, Corporate Communications</br><br>FOX News</br><br>1211 Avenue of the Americas</br><br>New York, NY 10036 </br><br>Phone: 212-301-3000</br><br>Fax: 212-301-8588</br><br>E-Mail: brian.lewis@foxnews.com</br><br></br><br></br><br>As I type this, I am in the process of suffering through Hannity and Colmes to compile a list of Fox News sponsors. I plan to contact each sponsor and tell them why I plan to boycott their products/services. </br><br></br><br>I'll also mention the petition below to Mr. Lewis of Fox and each sponsor. Since yesterday alone, it has garnered over 6,000 signatures.</br><br></br><br>This is the last damn straw...</br><br></br><br>http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/fox-news-has-to-sack-liz-trotta</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_22:38:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "63b159f0f2351eb699374dd9c7d8a3da", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967080": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "They should add O'Reilly to that petition for talking about sending a lynch party for Michelle.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_22:48:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967081": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i> Last week Lisa Caputo had her ass handed to her by Chris and she couldn't say sh**, but a day later she was on with (I think Jamal) and she was pulling the crazy white lady routine. Then again, I see this type of behavior of the very candidate they support.<br></br></i><br></br><br>truthseeker and honey,</br><br></br><br>and don't get them started on Michelle!</br><br></br><br>They DESPISE Michelle..</br><br></br><br>But, that's ok...cause we've got Michelle's back.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_22:50:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967082": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Fuck Joan Walsh. Get the fuck out of the way Bill & Hill. It's Obama's Party dammit. She's a angry bitch b/c she knows it's over. Hillary & Bill have been sending code messages since South Carolina Primary. Everything they say or do is calculated.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_22:54:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "7c4455626754e1b9bc3be232b1024136", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967083": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "truthseeker, when did O'reilly make that lynch remark about Michelle?  These Fox News racists have all got to GO.  We should have BEEN boycotted that network to be totally real about it...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_23:00:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "63b159f0f2351eb699374dd9c7d8a3da", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967084": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "black american princess,<br></br><br>here's the video:</br><br><a href=\"http://youtube.com/watch?v=CowWSNO6v30\" rel=\"nofollow\">Video</a></br><br></br><br></br><br>Some good satire at Huffington:</br><br><a href=\"http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-gene-sullivan/ku-klux-klan-wont-endorse_b_103816.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ku Klux Klan Won't Endorse Obama</a></br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_23:15:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967085": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I meant to say that Joan Walsh, Lisa Caputo, etc become brazen when paired up with Black contributors (not just males).  <br></br><br>Is the appropriate word for it, projecting? I dunno, maybe just crazy.</br><br></br><br>But yeah, they give Michelle B. a hard time.</br><br></br><br>Thanks BAP for the petition info!</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-27_23:23:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "cda55c7832b52db750659b8f518a520f", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967086": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "D,<br></br><br>Jeremiah Wright served in the military.  So, bow down or STFU!</br><br></br><br></br><br>Obama confusing a Polish camp with a German one pales in comparisons to a \"military vet\" and SENATOR not knowing the difference between Sunnis and Shiites in a war he voted for and supports.  And, to think, the dumb mf went to Iraq (and brags about) but he doesn't know the most basic of details about a CURRENT event.</br><br></br><br>So one that dumb shouldn't even be allowed to run and if his views of his 'pastors' in anyway way reflects his own or a number of flag waving, bs talking (White) Americans then we know why McCain never even bothered to learn the difference by Sunnis and Shiites.</br><br></br><br>I like, damn...  Did the mf ever even pick up a newspaper?</br><br></br><br>Don't tell me he's another WHITE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION candidate like Bush...</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-28_00:19:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "3ecde559248958521e4cb25a77f2ee65", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967087": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Here's the Hardball segment with Joan and Joe Madison for anyone who missed it.<br></br><br>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3U0df0qGoA</br><br></br><br>This could be turning into \"Those black people stole this from Hillary\"   The Clinton's have people fighting on their behalf.  Joan and McAuliffe are on tv destroying their integrity while the Clinton's sit on 50 million dollars, govt. perks and lifetime Secret Service protection.  I wish someone would shake some sense into these surrogates.  Her campaign staff probably hasn't been paid in weeks.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-28_00:28:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0e63fda3bc8752465623f674ffcc5f40", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967088": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "truthseeker,<br></br><br>thanks for posting the link. I was going to go and look for it.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-28_00:39:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "432619ba625f6a3e6b9013e9117e3759", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967089": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "rikyrah<br></br><br>http://www.faithbase.com/barack_Obama/</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-28_00:44:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "9fcb7c771a7713dda01aa936fd426bfe", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967090": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "If someone already posted....sorry for double posting. Found at DailyKos<br></br><br>The Obama staff issued a correction the following day to the Auschwitz/Buchenwald</br><br></br><br>\"Senator Obama's family is proud of the service of his grandfather and uncles in World War II \u2013 especially the fact that his great uncle was a part of liberating one of the concentration camps at Buchenwald. Yesterday he mistakenly referred to Auschwitz instead of Buchenwald in telling of his personal experience of a soldier in his family who served heroically,\" said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton.\"</br><br></br><br>They also offered background on his uncle's unit. </br><br></br><br>United States Holocaust Memorial Museum:</br><br>http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId;=10006140</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-28_00:46:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "432619ba625f6a3e6b9013e9117e3759", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967091": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Just look at the picture of Eisenhower's Mama. <br></br><br>Come on....getting hints of Bob Barr just looking at her...LOL</br><br></br><br><a href=\"http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08036/854713-51.stm\" rel=\"nofollow\">Racial heritage of six former presidents is questioned</a></br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-28_01:32:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967092": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Maureen Dowd's latest:<br></br><br><a href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/28/opinion/28dowd.html?_r=1&amp;ref=opinion&amp;oref=slogin\" rel=\"nofollow\">Can He Take a Frisk?</a></br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-28_01:58:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967093": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<a href=\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/17/AR2008051701294.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">At U-Va., a Dean Making a Difference</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-28_02:04:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "f85f4de88a30987f0360c336da9569ae", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967094": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<i>Obama confusing a Polish camp with a German one pales in comparisons to a \"military vet\" and SENATOR not knowing the difference between Sunnis and Shiites in a war he voted for and supports. And, to think, the dumb mf went to Iraq (and brags about) but he doesn't know the most basic of details about a CURRENT event.</i><br></br><br>What about Obama not knowing that Arabic isn't spoken in Afghanistan?  Is that comparable?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-28_02:08:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "561629d6eb7ae616ebfb038c0cdffbbd", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967095": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Did Nquest not get the memo about moving past Rev. Wright?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-28_02:57:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "0183bc94f5be8b9ec79636f3f2174ff5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967096": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "d & s<br></br><br>Thanks for your replies yesterday re: \"winning\" in Iraq.  Sorry I couldn't follow up.</br><br></br><br>Based, though, on both of your responses, you both believe that we will have won when Iraq's government is stabilized and functional.  Both of you know, however, that such a scenario is analogous to beating someone to near-death, and then having the nerve to claim a \"victory\" once they're off life support and are stabilized.</br><br></br><br>I'm sure you both also know that the key to \"victory\" in Viet Nam was similarly stated in those vaguely platitudinal terms.  Democracy; stabilized government; blah, blah.  But none of those things happened until our government <b>withdrew</b> our military from Viet Nam.  In other words, we were part of the problem.  Not the solution.</br><br></br><br>This is why John McCain was correct in his figurative assessment of \"100 years\" in the region.  He knows as well as any that the \"victory\" that some people tout can take generations to achieve.  </br><br></br><br>Or we can do what we did with Viet Nam and leave so that the people in the region can make their own decisions on how they will conduct their lives.</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-28_08:16:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "25c2ebf4464c5d95fa227ddd4a0d2fe5", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967097": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"The insurgency must be fought-and defeated-at home and abroad.\"<br></br><br>Exactly who makes up \"the insurgency\" in the U.S.? For that matter, who makes up the insurgency in Iraq, seeing as how the U.S. has supported both Shia and Sunni fighters at one time or another?</br>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-05-28_11:02:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "aedda92d645e540d5d4d78a25c550ffc", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "1 year ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "1967098": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "IVAW didn't talk *behind closed doors*, they spoke with a need for security after numerous threats. 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Dsq.COMMENTS_RE = /(<li.*?id="?dsq-comment-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/li>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_RE = /(<div.*?id="?dsq-comment-header-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/div>)\s*(<div.*?class="?dsq-comment-body"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_BODY_RE = /\s*(<div.*?id="?dsq-comment-message-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
// HACK: Safari ends with "-->" while other browsers end with "--&gt;" as expected.
Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE = /&lt;!--\[(.*?)\]--(?:>|&gt;)/gim;



var FragmentPacket = function(reader, writer, writer_url, is_child, receiveCallback) {
	var that = this;
	this.reader = reader;
	this.writer = writer;
	this.writer_url = writer_url;

	this.is_child = is_child || false;
	this.receiveCallback = receiveCallback;

	this._lastHash = null;

	this._accumMsg = '';

	this._lastSeqno = 0;

	this.MAX_DATA_LEN	= 1024;

	this.WAIT_TIME		= 10;

	this.READY		= 0x1;
	this.WRITING	= 0x2;
	this.FIN		= 0x4;
	this.ACK		= 0x8;

};

FragmentPacket.prototype.createListener = function() {
	var that = this;
	var listener = function() {
		that.recv();
	};
	return window.setInterval(listener, 10);
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.log = function(msg) {



};

FragmentPacket.prototype.recv = function() {
	var hash;
	if (/MSIE/.test(navigator.userAgent)) {

		hash = this.reader.name;
	} else {

		var hashIndex = this.reader.location.href.indexOf('#');
		if (hashIndex == -1) {
			return;
		}
		hash = this.reader.location.href.substring(hashIndex+1);
	}
	var flags = parseInt(hash.substring(0, 4), 10);
	var seqno = parseInt(hash.substring(4, 24), 10);
	var data  = hash.substring(24);

	if (this._lastHash !== hash) {
		this._lastHash = hash;
		this.log('recv: ' + hash);

		this.log(' flags: ' + flags);
		this.log(' seqno: ' + seqno + ' len: ' + hash.substring(4, 24).length + ' (' + hash.substring(4, 24) + ')');
		this.log(' data: ' + data + ' len: ' + data.length);

		this._lastSeqno = seqno;

		if (flags & this.WRITING) {
			this._accumMsg += data;
			this.sendFlag(this.ACK, seqno);
			if (flags & this.FIN) {
				this.log('recv finished: ' + decodeURIComponent(this._accumMsg));
				this.receiveCallback(decodeURIComponent(this._accumMsg));

				this._accumMsg = '';

				this.sendFlag(this.READY | this.ACK, this._lastSeqno);
			}
		}
	}

	return {
		flags: flags,
		seqno: seqno,
		data: data
	};
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.sendRawPacket = function(packet) {
	if (/MSIE/.test(navigator.userAgent)) {
		this.writer.name = packet;
	} else {

		this.writer.location.href = this.writer_url + '#' + packet;
	}

};

FragmentPacket.prototype.sendFlag = function(flag, seqno) {
	this.sendRawPacket(this._zerofill(flag, 4) + this._zerofill(seqno, 20));
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.send = function(msg) {
	this._send(0, encodeURIComponent(msg));
};

FragmentPacket.prototype._send = function(packetNum, msg) {
	var that = this;
	var recvBuf = this.recv();

	if (packetNum === 0) {

		if (!(recvBuf.flags & this.READY)) {
			this.log('client is not ready, waiting...');
			window.setTimeout(function() { that._send(packetNum, msg); }, this.WAIT_TIME);
			return;
		}
	} else {

		if (!( (recvBuf.flags & this.ACK) && (recvBuf.seqno === this._lastSeqno) )) {
			this.log('waiting for ack from client...');
			window.setTimeout(function() { that._send(packetNum, msg); }, this.WAIT_TIME);
			return;
		} else {
			this.log('received ack: ' + this._lastSeqno + ' ' + recvBuf.seqno);
		}
	}

	var flags = this.WRITING;
	var num_packets = Math.ceil(msg.length / this.MAX_DATA_LEN);
	this.log('num_packets: ' + num_packets);

	if (num_packets === packetNum) {

		this.log('message successfully sent!');
		this.sendFlag(this.READY | this.ACK, this._lastSeqno);
		return true;
	}

	this._lastSeqno++;

	if (packetNum == num_packets-1) {
		flags |= this.FIN;
	}

	var data = msg.substring(packetNum * this.MAX_DATA_LEN, (packetNum+1) * this.MAX_DATA_LEN);
	var packet = this._zerofill(flags, 4) + this._zerofill(this._lastSeqno, 20) + data;

	this.log('sending raw packet: ' + packet);
	this.sendRawPacket(packet);

	return this._send(packetNum + 1, msg);
};

FragmentPacket.prototype._zerofill = function(num, width) {
	var retval = num.toString();
	var retval_len = retval.length;
	for (var i = 0; i < width - retval_len; i++) {
		retval = '0' + retval;
	}
	return retval;
};

var PostMessagePacket = function(receiver, receiveCallback, id, receiverId) {
	var that = this;
	this.receiver = receiver;
	this.receiveCallback = receiveCallback;
	this.id = id;


	this.receiverId = receiverId;
};

PostMessagePacket.prototype.createListener = function() {
	var that = this;

	var listener = function(e) {

		if (!that.id) {
			that.id = e.data;
			return;
		}


		var id = e.data.split(';')[0];
		if (id !== that.id) {
			return;
		}
		var data = e.data.substring(e.data.indexOf(';') + 1);

		that.receiveCallback(data);
	};

	if (typeof window.attachEvent == 'function') {
		window.attachEvent('onmessage', listener);
	} else if (typeof window.addEventListener == 'function') {
		window.addEventListener('message', listener, false);
	} else {
		throw new Error('No method found to create event listener for PostMessagePacket.');
	}
};

PostMessagePacket.prototype.send = function(msg) {



	var needs_reget = false;
	try {
		if (typeof this.receiver.id == 'undefined' || typeof this.receiver.postMessage == 'undefined') {
			needs_reget = true;
		}
	} catch(e) {


	}
	if (needs_reget && typeof this.receiverId != 'undefined') {
		this.receiver = document.getElementById(this.receiverId).contentWindow;
	}

	var packet;
	if (!msg) {

		packet = this.id;
	} else {
		packet = this.id + ';' + msg;
	}
	this.receiver.postMessage(packet, '*');
};

PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = null;
PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id = function() {
	var id = (new Date()).getTime();
	if (id == PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id) {
		id++;
	}
	PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = id;
	return id.toString();
};

var JsonRpc = function() {

	this.ids = {};

	this.objectToJSON = function(obj) {
		var json = '';
		var results = [];

		if (obj === undefined || obj === null) {
			return 'null';
		}

		switch (obj.constructor) {
			case Object:
				for (var property in obj) {
					if (obj.hasOwnProperty(property)) {
						results.push(this.objectToJSON(property) + ': ' + this.objectToJSON(obj[property]));
					}
				}
				json = '{' + results.join(', ') + '}';
				break;
			case Array:
				for (var i = 0; i < obj.length; i++) {
					results.push(this.objectToJSON(obj[i]));
				}
				json = '[' + results.join(', ') + ']';
				break;
			case Number:
			case Boolean:
				json = obj.toString();
				break;
			case String:

				var specialChars = {'\b': '\\b', '\t': '\\t', '\n': '\\n', '\f': '\\f', '\r': '\\r', '\\': '\\\\'};

				json = obj.replace(/[\x00-\x1f\\]/g, function(match) {
					var ch = specialChars[match];
					return ch ? ch : '\\u00' + match.charCodeAt().toPaddedString(2, 16);
				});

				json = '"' + json.replace(/"/g, '\\"') + '"';
				break;
			default:

				json = 'null';
				break;
		}

		return json;
	};

	this.createHandler = function(send_func, registered_funcs) {
		var that = this;
		var handler = function(message) {

			try {
				var rpc = eval('(' + message + ')');
			} catch(e) {
				alert('bad JSON: ' + message);
				return;
			}
			if (rpc.method) {

				if (!registered_funcs[rpc.method]) {
					return;
				}

				var retval = registered_funcs[rpc.method].apply(null, rpc.params);
				if (rpc.id) {
					var response = {
						result: retval,
						error: null,	// TODO
						id: rpc.id
					};
					send_func(that.objectToJSON(response));
				}
			} else if(rpc.result) {

				if (!that.ids[rpc.id]) {
					return;
				}

				that.ids[rpc.id](rpc.result);
				delete that.ids[rpc.id];
			}
		};
		return handler;
	};

	this.execute = function(send_func, method, params, response_callback) {
		response_callback = response_callback || null;
		var id = (response_callback) ? (new Date()).getTime() : null;

		var request = {
			method: method,
			params: params,
			id: id
		};

		send_func(this.objectToJSON(request));

		if (id) {
			this.ids[id] = response_callback;
		}
	};
};
JsonRpc = new JsonRpc();

var ParentMessenger = function(childUrl, receiverUrl, container, receiveCallback) {


	if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Safari') >= 0 && parseInt(navigator.userAgent.substring(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Version/') + 8), 10) == 3) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	} else if (window.opera) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	}



	if (!receiverUrl &&
		navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Gecko') >= 0 &&
		parseFloat(navigator.userAgent.slice(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 3, navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 6)) < 1.9) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	}


	if (/msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent)) {


		if (document.domain == window.location.hostname) {
			receiverUrl = '';
		}
	}

	var that = this;
	this.childUrl = childUrl;
	this.receiverUrl = receiverUrl;
	this.container = container || document.body;

	this.packetHandler = null;


	this._ready = false;
	this._error = false;


	var _createReceiverForFragmentPacket = function() {

		that.receiver = document.createElement('iframe');
		that.receiver.src = receiverUrl;
		that.receiver.id = 'receiver_' + (new Date()).getTime();
		that.receiver.name = that.receiver.id;

		that.receiver.frameBorder = '0';
		that.receiver.frameSpacing = '0';
		that.receiver.style.borderStyle = 'none';

		var receiver_onload = function() {
			var receiver = document.getElementById(that.receiver.id).contentWindow;

			try {
				receiver.document.body.innerHTML = '';
			} catch(e) {

				that._error = true;
			}
			receiver.document.body.style.padding = '0px';
			receiver.document.body.style.margin = '0px';

			var child = receiver.document.createElement('iframe');
			child.id = 'child';
			child.name = 'child';
			child.src = that.childUrl;

			child.frameBorder = '0';
			child.frameSpacing = '0';
			child.style.borderStyle = 'none';
			child.style.width = '100%';
			child.style.height = '100%';
			receiver.document.body.appendChild(child);

			that.child = receiver.document.getElementById('child').contentWindow;
			that.receiver = receiver;

			that.packetHandler = new FragmentPacket(that.receiver, that.child, that.childUrl, false, receiveCallback);

			that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();

			that.packetHandler.sendFlag(that.packetHandler.READY, 0);

			that._ready = true;
		};

		that.receiver.onreadystatechange = function() {
			if (this.readyState == 'complete') {
				receiver_onload();
			}
		};

		that.receiver.onload = receiver_onload;







		if (Dsq.Utils.ie) {
			if (that.container.clientWidth === 0) {

				var _waitForWidth = function() {
					if (that.container.clientWidth > 0) {
						Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
					} else {
						window.setTimeout(_waitForWidth, 100);
					}
				};
				_waitForWidth();

				that._once = false;
				that.receiver.onresize = function() {
					if (!that._once) {
						Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
					}
					that._once = true;
				};
			}
		}

		that.container.appendChild(that.receiver);
	};


	var _createReceiverForPostMessage = function() {

		var receiver_onload = function() {

			that.packetHandler.send();
			that._ready = true;
		};

		var id = PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id();
		var receiverId = 'child_' + id;


		ParentMessenger['_receiver_onload_' + receiverId] = receiver_onload;

		that.container.innerHTML += '<iframe ' +
			'src="' + childUrl + '" ' +
			'id="' + receiverId + '" ' +
			'name="' + receiverId + '" ' +
			'onload="ParentMessenger._receiver_onload_' + receiverId +'();" ' +
			'></iframe>';

		that.receiver = document.getElementById(receiverId).contentWindow;
		that.packetHandler = new PostMessagePacket(that.receiver, receiveCallback, id, receiverId);
		that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();
	};

	if (typeof window.postMessage == 'function') {
		_createReceiverForPostMessage();
	} else {
		_createReceiverForFragmentPacket();
	}

};

ParentMessenger.prototype.sendMessage = function(message) {
	var that = this;
	if (!this._ready) {

		window.setTimeout(function() { that.sendMessage(message); }, 10);
		return;
	}
	this.packetHandler.send(message);
	return true;
};

Dsq.NewFrames = function(url) {
	this.url = url;
};

Dsq.NewFrames.prototype.init = function(onFailure) {
	var that = this;

	try {
		this.messenger = new ParentMessenger(this.url, Dsq.jsonData.integration.receiver_url, this.container, this.receive_callback);
	} catch(e) {
		if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
			onFailure();
		}
	}

	if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
		var iId = window.setInterval(function() {
			if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
				return;
			}
			if (that.messenger._ready) {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
			} else if (that.messenger._error) {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
				onFailure();
			}
		}, 10);
	}
};

Dsq.NewFrames.prototype._execute = function(method, args, callback) {
	var that = this;
	if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
		return false;
	}
	JsonRpc.execute(
		function(msg) { that.messenger.sendMessage(msg); },
		method,
		args || [],
		callback);
	return true;
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame = function(container, parent_post_id) {
	var that = this;
	this.container = container;
	this.parent_post_id = parent_post_id;

	var sendFunc = function(msg) {

		Dsq.Debug.log('Dsq.ReplyFrame.sendFunc');
		that.messenger.sendMessage(msg);
	};


	var postComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
		Dsq.jsonData.posts[response.message.id] = response.message.post_meta;
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key]) {
			Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key] = response.message.user_meta;
		}


		var reply_position = (typeof(disqus_insert_wrt_sort) == 'undefined' 
			? (Dsq.jsonData.forum.reply_position ? -1 : null) 
			: (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 2 ? null : -1));
		
		if (response.message.post_meta.approved) {
			Dsq.Post.insert(response.message.post_meta.parent_post_id || reply_position, response.message.id, response.message.post_meta.message);
		}

		Dsq.Templates.postComment_onSuccess(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
	};

	var postComment_onFailure = function(response) {
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(response.message, 'Error');
		Dsq.Templates.postComment_onFailure(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
	};

	var editComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
		var post_id = parent_post_id;
		var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);
		
		message.innerHTML = response.message;
		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};
	
	var editComment_onFailure = function(response) {
		var post_id = parent_post_id;
		
		Dsq.Popup.popModal('Sorry, there was an error editing this comment.', 'Edit Error');
		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	var getUserByEmail_onSuccess = function(response) {
		var msg = response.message;
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(parent_post_id);

		if (msg.username) {

			Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'login', {
				'username': msg.username,
				'display_name': msg.display_name,
				'avatar_url': msg.avatar_url,
				'verified': msg.verified,
				'email': fields.email.value
			});
		} else {

			Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'register');
		}
	};

	var validateAuth_onSuccess = function(response, auth_choice) {
		Dsq.Templates.postComment(parent_post_id, null, true, auth_choice);
	};

	var validateAuth_onFailure = function(response, auth_choice) {
		var pid = parent_post_id ? '-' + parent_post_id : '';
		var msg = response.message;

		if (auth_choice == 'register') {
			var fields = ['email', 'username', 'password'];

			for (var i = 0; i < fields.length; i++) {
				var field = fields[i];
				var errorDiv = Dsq.$('dsq-' + field + '-errors' + pid);

				if (msg[field]) {
					errorDiv.innerHTML = msg[field];
				} else {
					errorDiv.innerHTML = '';
				}
			}
		} else if (auth_choice == 'login') {
			Dsq.$('dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid).innerHTML = '<p>We couldn\'t log you in. Please verify your login.</p>';
		}
		
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	this.receive_callback = JsonRpc.createHandler(sendFunc, {
		'postComment.onSuccess': postComment_onSuccess,
		'postComment.onFailure': postComment_onFailure,
		'editComment.onSuccess': editComment_onSuccess,
		'editComment.onFailure': editComment_onFailure,		
		'getUserByEmail.onSuccess': getUserByEmail_onSuccess,
		'validateAuth.onSuccess': validateAuth_onSuccess,
		'validateAuth.onFailure': validateAuth_onFailure,
		'reload': function() { window.location.reload(); }
	});

	this.url = Dsq.Urls.REPLY +
		'?' + (new Date()).getTime() +
		'&f=jackandjillpolitics' +
		'&t=tuesday_open_thread_hi_everybody_81' +
		'&ff=' + Dsq.Thread.ff +
		'&default_text=' + disqus_default_text +
		'&ifrs=' + encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css);
	if (this.parent_post_id) {
		this.url += '&parent_post=' + this.parent_post_id;
	}
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype = new Dsq.NewFrames(Dsq.ReplyFrame.url);

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.post = function(author_name, author_email, author_url, authenticate, sharing_services, subscribe) {
	this._execute('postComment', [author_name, author_email, author_url, authenticate, sharing_services, subscribe]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.edit = function(post_id, message) {
	this._execute('editComment', [post_id, message]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.setState = function(parent_post_id, depth) {
	this._execute('setState', [parent_post_id, depth]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.getUserByEmail = function(email) {
	this._execute('getUserByEmail', [email]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.validateAuth = function(auth_choice, email, username, password) {
	this._execute('validateAuth', [auth_choice, email, username, password]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.authenticateFacebook = function(session, forum_url) {
	this._execute('authenticateFacebook', [session, forum_url]);
};

	Dsq.Facebook = function() {
	var that = this;

	var handleSessionData = function(session) {

		var forum_url = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;




		if (typeof disqus_facebook_forum != 'undefined') {
			forum_url = disqus_facebook_forum;
		}
		Dsq.frames.reply_0.authenticateFacebook(session, forum_url);
	};

	var onLogin = function() {
		FB.Connect.getSignedPublicSessionData(handleSessionData);
	};

	this.login = function() {
		FB.Connect.requireSession(onLogin, true);
	};
};
Dsq.Facebook = new Dsq.Facebook();


	






Dsq.Themes = {};

Dsq.Themes.narcissus = new function() {
	this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-form-area';
	this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-textarea-wrapper';



	
	this.header = function() {
		var comments_count, total_posts, num_posts;
		var html = '';
		var missing_perm_tmpl;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.missing_perm) {
			missing_perm_tmpl = Dsq.Templates.missingPermissions();
			if (missing_perm_tmpl) {
				html += '<div class="dsq-missing-permissions">' + missing_perm_tmpl + '</div>';
			}
		}

		total_posts = Dsq.jsonData.thread.total_posts;
		num_posts = Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_posts;

		if (total_posts) {
			comments_count = Dsq.FmtStrings.SHOWING_COMMENTS_FULL(total_posts, num_posts);
		} else {
			comments_count = Dsq.FmtStrings.SHOWING_COMMENTS_WITHOUT_PAGINATION(num_posts);
		}

		html += ' \
		<div id="dsq-comments-title"> \
			<h3>' + comments_count + '</h3> \
		</div> \
		';

		html += ' \
		<div class="dsq-options"> \
			<span class="dsq-item-sort">'
				+ Dsq.Strings.SORT_BY + ' \
				<select id="dsq-sort-select" onchange="Dsq.Thread.sortBy(this.value);"> \
					<option value="hot" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 4 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.POPULAR_NOW + '</option> \
					<option value="best" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 3 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.BEST_RATING + '</option> \
					<option value="newest" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 2 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.NEWEST_FIRST + '</option> \
					<option value="oldest" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 1 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.OLDEST_FIRST + '</option> \
				</select> \
				&nbsp; \
			</span> \
			<span class="dsq-subscribe-email"> \
				<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/email.png" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle"> \
				<span id="dsq-subscribe">'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.subscribed
						? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(0); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.UNSUBSCRIBE + '</a>'
						: '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_EMAIL + '</a>')
				+ '</span> \
			</span> \
			<span class="dsq-subscribe-rss" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle"> \
				<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/bullet-feed.png" alt="" /> \
				<a href="http://jackandjillpolitics.disqus.com/tuesday_open_thread_hi_everybody_81/latest.rss">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_RSS + '</a> \
			</span> \
		</div> \
		';

		
		

		return html;

	};
	
	this.footer = function() {
		var html = '';

		html += Dsq.Templates.pagination();

		
		
			html += Dsq.Templates.realtime();
			html += Dsq.Templates.showThreadSettings();
			html += Dsq.Templates.postBox();

		html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
		


		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator) {
 			html += ' \
				<div class="dsq-global-moderator-extras">'
					+ '<strong>shortname:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.forum.url
					+ '<strong>thread id:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.id
					+ '<strong>thread slug:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.slug
				+ '</div> \
			';
		}

		return html;
	};
	
	this.realtime = function() {
		var html = '';
		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			html += '<div id="dsq-realtime-options" class="dsq-options">'
					 + Dsq.Strings.REALTIME_UPDATING_IS + ' <strong id="dsq-realtime-status" style="text-transform: lowercase">' + Dsq.Strings.ENABLED + '</strong>. \
					 <a href="#" id="dsq-realtime-toggle" style="text-transform: capitalize"></a> \
					</div>';
		}

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
			html += ' \
				<div style="display: none" id="dsq-realtime-alert" class="dsq-realtime-alert"><span id="dsq-realtime-queued"></span> <a href="#" id="dsq-realtime-show"></a></div> \
			';
		}
		
		return html;
	};

	this.showThreadSettings = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '<div id="dsq-thread-settings" class="dsq-thread-settings">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATOR_OPTIONS;
		html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.showSettings(); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.SETTINGS + '</a>';
		if (Dsq.jsonData.forum.reactions_enabled && Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.reportMissingReactions(); return false;">'
						+ Dsq.Strings.REPORT_MISSING_REACTIONS
						+ '</a>';
		}
		html +='</div>';

		return html;
	};

	this.postBox = function(post_id, use_fallback_iframe) {


		var html;
		var display_sharing_options = Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated;

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post) {
			return '';
		}
		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote) {


			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.hasOwnProperty(Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain)) {
				display_sharing_options = false;
			}
		}
		
		if (post_id) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];				
		}
		
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';

		var _requestUserInfo = function() {
			var html;



			var user_has_email = false;

			html = '<div class="dsq-request-user-info"> <!-- // If authenticated --> \
				<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT + '?ctkn=' + Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN + '" class="dsq-request-user-logout">' + Dsq.Strings.LOGOUT + '</a> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td rowspan="2">'
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE + '">' : '')
								+ '<img src="' + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR + '" width="48" height="48" class="dsq-request-user-avatar">'
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '</a>' : '')
						+ '</td> \
						<td class="dsq-request-user-name">'
								+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
									 ? '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-' + Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain + '">' + Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain + '</span>'
									 : (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_verified
											? '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span>'
											: '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span>'))
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? ' <a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE + '">' : '') 
								+ Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username 
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '</a>' : '')
							+  (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && user_has_email ? ' <small>(<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.remoteAccountSettings(); return false;">change settings</a>)</small>' : '')
							+  (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? ' <small>(<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/info/" target="_blank">change name</a> or <a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/avatar/" target="_blank">picture</a>)</small>' : '')
						+ '</td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-request-user-stats"> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.comments_count + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.comments_count == 1 ? 'comment' : 'comments') + '</span> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.likes_count + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.likes_count == 1 ? 'like' : 'likes') + '</span> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.points + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.points == 1 ? 'point' : 'points') + '</span> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div> \
			';
			return html;
		};

		var _loginOptions = function() {
			var html;
			html = ' \
			<div class="dsq-authenticate"> \
				<p class="dsq-autheneticate-copy">'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
					? Dsq.Strings.YOU_ARE_COMMENTING_AS_A + ' <a class="dsq-help" title="Click for more information" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Guest</a>. ' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL + ': ' + Dsq.Strings.LOGIN_BELOW + '.'
					: Dsq.Strings.REQUIRED + ': ' + Dsq.Strings.PLEASE_LOGIN_BELOW_TO_COMMENT + '.')
				+ '</p> \
				<ul class="dsq-login-buttons">'
					+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-disqus.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Facebook.login(); return false;"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-facebook.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-twitter.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.requestURL(); return false" ><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-openid.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_yahoo ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Yahoo.startYahooConnect(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-yahoo.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
				+ '</ul> \
			</div> \
			';
			return html;
		};

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {


			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {



				return '<div id="dsq-form-area" style="display:none"><div id="dsq-textarea-wrapper"></div></div>' + _loginOptions();
			} else {
				return '';
			}
		}

		html = ' \
		<div id="' + (post_id 
			? 'dsq-reply-post-' + post_id
			: 'dsq-new-post')
		 	+ '" class="dsq-post-area"> \
			<div class="dsq-dc-logo"> \
				<a href="http://disqus.com/comments" target="_blank"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/disqus-logo.png"></a> \
			</div>'
			+ (post_id 
				? '<h3>' + Dsq.Strings.REPLYING_TO + ' ' + userData.display_name + '</h3>'
				: '<h3>' + Dsq.Strings.ADD_NEW_COMMENT + '</h3>')
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated 
				? _requestUserInfo()
				: _loginOptions() )
			+ '<div id="dsq-form-area' + pid + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-textarea"> \
				<div class="dsq-textarea-wrapper" id="dsq-textarea-wrapper' + pid + '"></div> \
			</div>'
			+ (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated
			? ' \
			<div class="dsq-post-fields"> \
				<form action="." method="GET" onsubmit="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, false); return false;"> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-left"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-name' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (disqus_def_name ? disqus_def_name : (Dsq.jsonData.session.name ? Dsq.jsonData.session.name : Dsq.Strings.NAME + '" class="dsq-placeholder')) + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'name\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'name\')" /></div></td> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-right"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-website' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (Dsq.jsonData.session.url ? Dsq.jsonData.session.url : Dsq.Strings.WEBSITE + ' (' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL.toLowerCase() + ')" class="dsq-placeholder') + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'website\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'website\')" /></div></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-left"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-email' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (disqus_def_email ? disqus_def_email : (Dsq.jsonData.session.email ? Dsq.jsonData.session.email : Dsq.Strings.EMAIL + '" class="dsq-placeholder')) + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'email\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'email\')" /></div></td> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-right"> \
							<div class="dsq-subscribe"> \
								<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.chooseSubscribe(' + post_id + '); return false" class="dsq-subscribe-menu"><span id="dsq-subscribe-select' + pid + '">' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.subscribe_on_post ? Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_TO_ALL_COMMENTS_BY_EMAIL : Dsq.Strings.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS) + '</span> <small>&#9660;</small></a> \
								<ul class="dsq-panel" id="dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid + '"> \
									<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.setSubscribe(2, this, ' + post_id + '); return false">Subscribe to all comments by email</a></li> \
									<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.setSubscribe(0, this, ' + post_id + '); return false">Do not subscribe to comments</a></li> \
								</ul> \
								<input id="dsq-subscribe-on-post' + pid + '" type="hidden" value="' + Dsq.jsonData.request.subscribe_on_post + '" /> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
				</form> \
			</div>'
			: '')
			+ '<div class="dsq-post-footer"> \
				<div class="dsq-sharing-options" ' + (!display_sharing_options ? 'style="display:none;"' : '') + '> \
					<button class="dsq-button-small" onfocus="document.getElementById(\'dsq-post-button' + pid + '\').focus();"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.SHARING_OPTIONS + ' <small>&#9660;</small></span></button> \
					<div class="dsq-panel"> '
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-twitter' + pid + '"'
								  + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-twitter' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Twitter</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook
								&& (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook.enabled === true ||
										(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'facebook'))
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-facebook' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-facebook' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Facebook</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-yahoo' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-yahoo' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Yahoo!</label> \
								</div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-tumblr' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-tumblr' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Tumblr</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-wordpress' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-wordpress' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Wordpress</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype !== undefined
							  && Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-movabletype' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-movabletype' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Movable Type</label> \
							   </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad !== undefined
							  && Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-typepad' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
								  <label for="dsq-sharing-typepad' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' TypePad</label> \
							   </div>'
							: '')
						+ '<div><a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/connections/" target="_blank" class="dsq-configure-options">' + Dsq.Strings.CONFIGURE_OPTIONS + '</a></div>'
					+ '</div> \
				</div>'
				+ '<button class="dsq-button" id="dsq-post-button' + pid + '" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, false)"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.POST_AS + ' '
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username
					? Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username
					: Dsq.Strings.GUEST)
				+ '</span></button>'
				+ (post_id
					? '<button class="dsq-button" id="dsq-cancel-button' + pid + '" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(' + post_id +', this)"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.CANCEL + '</span></button>'
					: '')
			+ '</div>'
			+ '</div>' // end dsq-form-area
		+ '</div> \
		';
		
		return html;
	};




	this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="dsq-append-post-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
		var html;
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		
		html = ' \
		<table> \
			<tr> \
				<td id="dsq-header-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-header-avatar" onmouseover="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')"> \
					<a id="dsq-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-avatar" href="' + userData.url + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.show_avatar
					? '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key].avatar + '" alt="" />'
					: '')
				+ '</a> \
				</td> \
				<td class="dsq-comment-header-meta"> \
		';

		
		return html;
	};
	
	this.postAppendHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var html;
		var parent_display_name = '';
		
		if(_meta.parent_post_id) {

			var _parent_meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[_meta.parent_post_id];

			if (_parent_meta) {
				var parentUserData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_parent_meta.user_key];
				parent_display_name = parentUserData.display_name;
			}
		}

		html = ' \
		<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png" class="dsq-moderator-star" title="Moderator" /> \
		<span class="dsq-comment-header-time"><a href="#comment-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.permalink(' + post_id + ')" title="Permalink">' + (_meta.is_realtime ? Dsq.Strings.JUST_NOW : _meta.date) + '</a></span> '
		+ (_meta.parent_post_id && parent_display_name
			? '<a href="#comment-' + _meta.parent_post_id + '" title="Jump to comment">in reply to ' + parent_display_name + '</a>'
			: '')
		+ '</td> \
		<td id="dsq-like-pts-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-comment-header-likes">'
		+ (_meta.points
			? _meta.points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(_meta.points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this.'
			: '')
		+ '</td> \
		</tr> \
		</table> \
		';
		return html;
	};

	this.preBody = function(post_id) {
		var html = '';
		return html;
	};

	this.postFooter = function(post_id) {
		var html;
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		if(_meta.killed || !_meta.approved) { return ''; }
		
		html = ' \
		<div class="dsq-comment-footer" id="dsq-comment-footer-' + post_id + '"> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer-left">'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator
					? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.moderateOptions(' + post_id+ '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATE + '</a>'
					: '')
				+ '<a href="#" id="dsq-post-report-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-post-report" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + post_id + ', false); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.FLAG + '</a> \
			</div> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer-right">'
				+ (_meta.votable 
					? '<span id="dsq-like-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-like">'
					+ (!_meta.up_voted
						? '<button class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Post.rate(this, ' + post_id + ', 1)" >Like</button>'
						: 'You liked this.&nbsp;&nbsp;')
					+ '</span>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply && !_meta.has_replies && _meta.from_request_user
					? '<button class="dsq-button-small dsq-post-edit" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + ')" >' + Dsq.Strings.EDIT + '</button>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply
					? '<span class="dsq-comment-footer-reply" id="dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(' + post_id +', this)"> \
						<button class="dsq-button-small">' + Dsq.Strings.REPLY + '</button> \
						<button class="dsq-comment-footer-reply-tab">' + Dsq.Strings.REPLY + '</button><span></span> \
					</span>'
					: '')
			+ '</div> \
		</div> \
		';
		
		return html;
	};



	
	this.showRetweets = function(id, limit, element_id /* Optional */) {
		var source, html = '';

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			if (reaction.id === id) {
				source = reaction.retweets;
			}
		}

		if (source) {
			if (limit === 0) {
				limit = source.length;
			}

			for (var j = 0; j < limit; j++) {
				var rt = source[j];
				html += '<a href="' + rt.url + '">' + rt.author_name + '</a>'	+ ((j === (limit - 1)) ? '.' : ', ');
			}
		}

		if (element_id === undefined) {
			return html;
		}

		var element = document.getElementById(element_id);
		element.innerHTML = html;
		return element;
	};

	this.showMoreReactions = function(reactions, has_more, start, limit) {
		var link = document.getElementById('dsq-show-more-reactions');
		var container = link.parentNode;
		container.removeChild(link);

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = reactions[i]; i++) {
			var el = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (el) {
				container.innerHTML += el;
			}
		}

		if (has_more) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = start;
			var l = limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			container.innerHTML += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions" class="dsq-show-more-reactions"><button class="dsq-button-small" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</button></li>';
		}
	};

	this.generateReactionHTML = function(reaction) {
		if (reaction.body === null || reaction.body == '') {
			return;
		}

		if (reaction.author_name === '') {
			reaction.author_name = '&nbsp;';
		}

		if (reaction.url === '') {
			reaction.url = reaction.get_service_url;
		}

		var item = '<li class="dsq-comment dsq-reaction" id="dsq-reaction-' + reaction.id + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-comment-header"> \
			<table> \
			<tr> \
			<td class="dsq-header-avatar"> \
			';

		if (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== '') {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="' + reaction.author_url +'" class="dsq-avatar">';
		}

		if (reaction.avatar_url && reaction.avatar_url !== '') {
			item += '<img src="' + reaction.avatar_url + '"/>';
		} else {

			item += '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/noavatar92.png"/>';
		}

		var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
		item += (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== ''
				? '</a>'
				: '')
			+ '</td>'
			+ '<td><cite class="dsq-comment-cite">' + reaction.author_name + '</cite> <span class="dsq-comment-header-time">' + reaction.date_created + '</span></td>'
			+ '<td class="dsq-comment-header-likes"></td>'
			+ '</tr></table></div>' // end dsq-comment-header
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-header" \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-reaction-header-left">'
							+ '<img class="dsq-service-icon" src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/reactions/services/' + service_icon + '.png" />'
							+ ' From <a class="dsq-service-name" target="_blank" href="' + reaction.url + '">' + reaction.get_service_name + '</a> '
							+ 'via ' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? '<a href="http://backtype.com/">BackType</a>' : '<a href="' + reaction.source_url + '">UberVU</a>')
						+ '</td>'
						+ '<td class="dsq-reaction-header-right">';
			
			if(reaction.retweets) {
				var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
				if (num_retweets > 0) {
					if (num_retweets == 1) {
						item += 'One more retweet from <a href="' + reaction.retweets[0].url + '">'  + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '</a>';
					} else {
						item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');
						item += '<span id="dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '">';
						var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 3) ? 3 : num_retweets;
						item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);
						if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
							item += '</span> <a onclick="Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(' + reaction.id + ', 0, \'dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '\');'
								+ 'this.parentNode.removeChild(this); return false;" href="#">Show all</a>';
						}
					}
				}
			}	
			item += '</td></tr> \
			</table> \
			</div>' // end dsq-reaction-header
			+ '<div class="dsq-comment-body"> \
				<div class="dsq-comment-message">' + reaction.body + '</div>'
			+ '</div> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer"> \
				<div class="dsq-comment-footer-left"> \
				</div>'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator 
					? ' \
					<div class="dsq-comment-footer-right"> \
						<button class="dsq-button-small dsq-hide-reaction" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.hide(' + reaction.id + ')">Hide</button> \
					</div>'
					: '')
			+ '</div>'
		item += '</li>'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
		return item;
	};

	this.reactions = function() {
		var html, reaction;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '';
		for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (item) {
				html += item;
			}
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
			var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			html += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions" class="dsq-show-more-reactions"><button class="dsq-button-small" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</button></li>';
		}

		return '<h3 id="dsq-reactions-title" class="dsq-h3-reactions">Reactions</h3><ul id="dsq-reactions" class="dsq-reactions">' + html + '</ul>';
	};
	
	this._popupGeneric = function(content) {
		return ' \
		<div class="dsq-popup-container"> \
			<table> \
				<tbody> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-tl"></td><td class="dsq-popup-b"></td><td class="dsq-popup-tr"></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-b"></td> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-body"> \
							<div class="dsq-popup-content"> \
								<div class="dsq-popup-title"> \
									<button class="dsq-button-small" style="float:right" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true)">Close</button>' 
									+ content['header'] 
								+ '</div>'
								+ content['body']
							+ '</div> \
							<div class="powered-by"><a href="http://disqus.com/comments/">Powered by <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-logo.png" alt="Disqus Comments" style="margin-bottom:-5px" /></a></div> \
						</td> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-b"></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-bl"></td><td class="dsq-popup-b"></td><td class="dsq-popup-br"></td> \
					</tr> \
				</tbody> \
			</table> \
		</div> \
		';
	};



	
	this.chooseSubscribe = function(post_id) {

		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var menu = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid);
		
		menu.style.display = menu.style.display == 'block' ? 'none' : 'block';
		
	};
	
	this.setSubscribe = function(value, el, post_id) {

		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var input = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-on-post' + pid);
		var select = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-select' + pid);
		var menu = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid);
		
		select.innerHTML = el.innerHTML;
		input.value = value;
		this.chooseSubscribe(post_id);
	};
	
	this.getFormFields = function(post_id) {

		var fields = {};
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var name = Dsq.$('dsq-field-name' + pid);
		var email = Dsq.$('dsq-field-email' + pid);
		var website = Dsq.$('dsq-field-website' + pid);
		var username = Dsq.$('dsq-field-username' + pid);
		var password = Dsq.$('dsq-field-password' + pid);

		fields = {
			'name': name,
			'email': email,
			'website': website,
			'username': username,
			'password': password
		}
		
		return fields;
	}
	
	this.validateFields = function(post_id) {
		
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) { return true; }
		
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		
		var nameField = fields.name;
		var websiteField = fields.website;
		var emailField = fields.email;
		
		websiteField.value = (websiteField.value == Dsq.Templates.placeholder['website']) ? '' : websiteField.value;
		
		var v = [{

			validator: Dsq.Validators.name,
			value: nameField.value
		}, {

			validator: Dsq.Validators.email,
			value: emailField.value
		}, {

			validator: Dsq.Validators.url,
			value: websiteField.value
		}];
		
		return Dsq.Validators.validate(v, function(e) { Dsq.Popup.popModal(e, 'Oops...') } );
	};
	
	this.checkExistingUser = function(post_id) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);		
		Dsq.Popup.loading(post_id);
		
		if (post_id) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].getUserByEmail(fields.email.value);
		} else {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].getUserByEmail(fields.email.value);
		}
	};

	this.validateAuth = function(el_clicked, post_id, auth_choice) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		var email = fields.email ? fields.email.value : '';
		var username = fields.username ? fields.username.value : '';
		var password = fields.password ? fields.password.value : '';
		
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
		
		if (post_id) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].validateAuth(auth_choice, email, username, password);
		} else {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].validateAuth(auth_choice, email, username, password);
		}
	};

	this.lightboxUpdateEmail = function(post_id, new_email) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		fields.email.value = new_email;
	};

	this.lightboxAuthenticate = function(post_id, auth_choice, auth_data) {
		var title, body;
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';

		if(typeof(auth_data) == 'undefined') {
			var auth_data = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		}

		d = auth_data;

		switch(auth_choice) {
			case 'register':
				var suggestedUsername = d.name.value.replace(/[^a-zA-Z0-9-]/g,'').toLowerCase();
			
				title = Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post ? 'Optional:' : 'Required:';
				title += ' Register a <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-profile.png" alt=Disqus Profile" />';

				body = ' \
				<ul class="dsq-lightbox-register-reasons"> \
				<li>Verify your comments</li> \
				<li>Edit and delete comments</li> \
				<li>Manage comments and replies</li> \
				</ul> \
				';

				body += ' \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-fields"> \
					<table> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Email</td> \
							<td><input type="text" value="' + d.email.value + '" onchange="Dsq.Templates.lightboxUpdateEmail(' + post_id + ', this.value)" /><div id="dsq-email-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Username</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-username' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + suggestedUsername + '"/><div id="dsq-username-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Password</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-password' + pid + '" type="password" /><div id="dsq-password-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
					</table> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-switch-auth"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(' + post_id + ',\'login\'); return false">Login instead</a></div> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid + '" class="dsq-lightbox-errors"></div> \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-submit"> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-post"><button class="dsq-button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.validateAuth(this, ' + post_id + ',\'' + auth_choice + '\')">Register and Post comment</button></div>'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
						? '<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-skip"><button class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, true)">Just post as a Guest</button></div>'
						: '')
				+ '</div> \
				';
				break;
			case 'login':
				title = Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post ? 'Optional:' : 'Required:';
				title += ' Login to your <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-profile.png" alt=Disqus Profile" />';
				body = '';
				
				if(d.avatar_url) {
					body += '<div class="dsq-lightbox-recognized"><table><tr>';
					body += '<td><img src="' + d.avatar_url + '" alt="" /></td>';
					body += '<td><span class="dsq-badge ' + (d.verified ? 'dsq-badge-verified' : 'dsq-badge-registered') + '">' + (d.verified ? 'Verified' : 'Registered') + '</span></td>';
					body += '<td>Hey <strong>' + d.display_name + '</strong>, is that you? Login below to claim this comment.';
					body += '</tr></table></div>';
				}

				body += ' \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-fields"> \
					<table> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Username or Email</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-username' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (d.avatar_url ? d.username : '') + '" /></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Password <a href="http://disqus.com/forgot" target="_blank">(cannot log in?)</a></td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-password' + pid + '" type="password" /></td> \
						</tr> \
					</table> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-switch-auth"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(' + post_id + ',\'register\'); return false">Register instead</a></div> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid + '" class="dsq-lightbox-errors"></div> \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-submit"> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-post"><button class="dsq-button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.validateAuth(this, ' + post_id + ',\'' + auth_choice + '\')">Login and Post comment</button></div>'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
						? '<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-skip"><button class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, true)">Just post as a Guest</button></div>'
						: '')
				+ '</div> \
				';
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}
		Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
		Dsq.$('dsq-field-username' + pid).focus();
	};
	
	this.buttonsToRestore = [];
	this.setLoadingButton = function(btn, post_id) {
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		if (btn) {

			var loadingBtn = document.createElement('button');
			loadingBtn.id = btn.id + '-loading';
			loadingBtn.innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-lite.gif" alt="" /> Just a moment...';
			loadingBtn.className = btn.className + ' dsq-post-loading';
			btn.parentNode.appendChild(loadingBtn);
			btn.style.display = 'none';
			var cancelBtn = Dsq.$('dsq-cancel-button' + pid);
			if(cancelBtn) { cancelBtn.style.display = 'none'; this.buttonsToRestore.push(cancelBtn); }
			this.buttonsToRestore.push(btn);
		} else {

			var buttons = this.buttonsToRestore;
			for(var i = 0; i < buttons.length; i++) {
				buttons[i].style.display = 'inline';
				Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$(buttons[i].id + '-loading'));
			}
		}
		
	};

	this.postComment = function(post_id, el_clicked, force, auth_choice) {
		var append_id = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);

		if (Dsq.Templates.validateFields(post_id)) {

			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && !force &&
				((!Dsq.Utils.readCookie('skipped_auth') && !disqus_skip_auth && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled) || !Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post)) {
				Dsq.Templates.checkExistingUser(post_id);
				return false;
			}
			var params = [];
			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
				params.push(fields.name.value,
					fields.email.value,
					fields.website.value);

				if (auth_choice == 'login' || auth_choice == 'register') {
					params.push({
						auth_choice: auth_choice,
						username: fields.username.value,
						password: fields.password.value,
						email: fields.email.value
					});
				} else {
					params.push(null);
				}

				params.push(null /* sharing options */, Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-on-post' + append_id).value);
			} else {
				var service_checked = function(name) {
					var el = Dsq.$('dsq-sharing-' + name + append_id);
					return (el !== null && el.checked === true) ? '1' : '0';
				};
				params.push(null, null, null, null, {
					tw: service_checked('twitter'),
					fb: service_checked('facebook'),
					tr: service_checked('tumblr'),
					wp: service_checked('wordpress'),
					mt: service_checked('movabletype'),
					tp: service_checked('typepad'),
					yh: service_checked('yahoo')
				});
			}

			var frame = Dsq.frames['reply_' + (post_id ? post_id : 0)];
			frame.post.apply(frame, params);

			if (el_clicked) {
				Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
			}
			
			if (force) {
				Dsq.Utils.createCookie('skipped_auth', true);	
			}
			
		} else {
			return false;
		}
	};

	this.editComment = function(el_clicked, post_id) {
		var edited_message = Dsq.$('dsq-edit-textarea-' + post_id).value;

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
		Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].edit(post_id, edited_message);
	};

	this.toggleEdit = function(post_id) {
		var body = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-body-' + post_id);
		var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);

		if (!Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id]) {


			message.style.display = 'none';
			if (Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id)) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id).style.display = 'block';
			} else {

				var edit_area = document.createElement('div');
				edit_area.id = 'dsq-edit-' + post_id;
				edit_area.className = 'dsq-edit dsq-textarea';
				edit_area.innerHTML = ' \
				<div class="dsq-textarea-wrapper"> \
					<textarea class="dsq-edit-textarea" id="dsq-edit-textarea-' + post_id + '">' + message.innerHTML + '</textarea> \
				</div> \
				<div class="dsq-save-edit"> \
					<button onclick="Dsq.Templates.editComment(this, ' + post_id + ')" class="dsq-button-small">Save Edit</button> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-edit-iframe-' + post_id + '" style="display: none"></div> \
				';

				body.appendChild(edit_area);

				if (!Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id]) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$('dsq-edit-iframe-' + post_id), post_id);
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].init();
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].setState(post_id, _meta.depth);
				}
			}
		} else {

			message.style.display = 'block';
			Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id).style.display = 'none';
		}
		
		Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id] = !Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id];
	};
	
	this.edit = function(el, post_id) {

		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
	};

	this.toggleReply = function(post_id, button) {
		
		if(!this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]) {

			if (Dsq.$('dsq-reply-post-' + post_id)) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).style.display = 'block';
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.postBox(post_id);
				var container = Dsq.$('dsq-textarea-wrapper-' + post_id);
				if (!Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id] && container) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(container, post_id);
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].init(function() {

						Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.postBox(post_id, true);
						Dsq.$('dsq-form-area-' + post_id).innerHTML = '';

						var theme = (typeof disqus_frame_theme == 'undefined') ? 'default' : disqus_frame_theme;
						Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-form-area-' + post_id), post_id, {theme: theme});

					});
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].setState(post_id, _meta.depth);
				}
			}
			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-append-post';
			Dsq.$('dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-comment-footer-reply-active';
			
		} else {

			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).style.display = 'none';
			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).className = '';
			Dsq.$('dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-comment-footer-reply';
		}
		
		this.stateReplyToggled[post_id] = !this.stateReplyToggled[post_id];

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie && this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]) {

		}

		Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED, {
			postId: post_id,
			opened: this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]
		});
	};
	
	this.moderateOptions = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		
		if(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator && !Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator) { return false; }

		var html;
		
		html = ' \
		<div class="dsq-moderate-options"> \
		<table>'
		+ (_meta.email ? '<tr><td>Email</td><td>' + _meta.email + '</td></tr>' : '')
		+ (_meta.ip ? '<tr><td>IP address</td><td>' + _meta.ip + '</td></tr>' : '')
		+ '<tr> \
			<td>Actions</td> \
			<td><ul>'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.moderator_can_edit
				? '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Edit Comment</a></li>'
				: '')
			+ '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.removePost(' + post_id + ', 1); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Delete Comment</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.reportSpam(' + post_id + '); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Mark Spam</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.blacklist(' + post_id + '); return false">Block User</a></li> \
			</ul></td> \
			</table> \
		</div> \
		';
		
		html += '<p>Go to the full <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/moderate/" target="_blank">moderate panel</a> for more options.</p>';
		
		return Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, 'Moderate Options', post_id);
	};
	
	this.placeholder = {
		'class': 'dsq-placeholder',
		'name': Dsq.Strings.NAME,
		'email': Dsq.Strings.EMAIL,
		'website': Dsq.Strings.WEBSITE + ' (' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL.toLowerCase() + ')'
	};
	
	this.handlePlaceholder = function(evt, el, key) {
		var placeholder = Dsq.Templates.placeholder[key];
		var className = Dsq.Templates.placeholder['class'];
		
		switch(evt.type) {
			case 'focus':
				if(el.value == placeholder) {
					el.value = '';
					el.className = '';
				}
				break;

			case 'blur':
				if(el.value == '') {
					el.value = placeholder;
					el.className = className;
				}
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}
	};
	
	this.paginate = function(page, el_clicked) {

		var extra_params = '';

		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&per_page=' + disqus_per_page;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_sort != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&sort=' + disqus_sort;
		}

		Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML += '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
		
		if(el_clicked) {
			Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked);
		}
		
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'tuesday_open_thread_hi_everybody_81'
			+ '&p='		+ page
			+ extra_params);
	};
	
	
	this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {


		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
			if(vote == 1) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-like-' + id).innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
			}
			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/vote.js'
				+ '?post_id='    + id
				+ '&vote='        + vote);
		} else {
			Dsq.Popup.login('To rate, please log in');
		}
	};

	this.voted = function(post_id, points, vote) {

		Dsq.$('dsq-like-pts-' + post_id).innerHTML = points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this.';

		if(vote) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-like-' + post_id).innerHTML = 'You liked this.&nbsp;&nbsp;';
		}
	};




	this.postComment_onSuccess = function(response, parent_post_id, post_id) {
		var approved = response.message.post_meta.approved;

		if (parent_post_id) {
			Dsq.Post.toggleReply(parent_post_id);
		}

		Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
		
		if (approved) {
			Dsq.Post.incrementPostCount();
			Dsq.Post.outlineComment(post_id);
		} else {			
			var unapproved_msg = 'Thanks for posting!\
	 Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.\
			';
			Dsq.Popup.popModal(unapproved_msg, 'Comment awaiting approval', post_id);
		}

		var sharing_results = response.message.sharing_results;
		var sharing_errors = '';
		for (var service in sharing_results) {
			if (sharing_results.hasOwnProperty(service) === true) {
				if (sharing_results[service].error === true) {
					sharing_errors += service + ', ';
				}
			}
		}

		if (sharing_results.facebook && sharing_results.facebook.callback) {
			FB.ensureInit(function() {
				FB.Connect.streamPublish('', sharing_results.facebook.attachment);
			});
		}

		if (sharing_errors !== '') {
			var message = 'Your comment was posted, but there were errors sharing with the following connections: ';
			message += sharing_errors.replace(/,\s$/, '');
			message += '<p><a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/connections" target="_blank">Configure your connections here</a></p>'
			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, 'Sharing options');
		}

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	this.postComment_onFailure = function(response, parent_post_id, post_id) {

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};
};




// TODO: It might be faster to use string methods to find all <li (...) </li> blocks and pass to Dsq.PostHandler manually.
Dsq.CommentsHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_post = Dsq.Templates.prependPost(post_id);
	var append_post = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(post_id);

	content = content.replace(Dsq.POST_RE, Dsq.PostHandler);
	Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter++;
	head = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContainer(post_id, head);
	return prepend_post + head + content + tail + append_post;
};

Dsq.PostHandler = function(str, h_head, post_id, h_content, h_tail, b_head, b_content, b_tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_header = Dsq.Templates.postPrependHeader(post_id);
	var append_header = Dsq.Templates.postAppendHeader(post_id);
	var prepend_body = Dsq.Templates.preBody(post_id);
	var append_body = Dsq.Templates.postBody(post_id);
	var append_footer = Dsq.Templates.postFooter(post_id);

	b_content = b_content.replace(Dsq.POST_BODY_RE, Dsq.PostBodyHandler);
	return h_head + prepend_header + h_content + append_header + h_tail + b_head + prepend_body + b_content + append_body + b_tail + append_footer;
};

Dsq.PostBodyHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	content = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContent(post_id, content);
	return head + content + tail;
};

Dsq.MediaPostHandler = function(str, args, offset, s) {
	args = args.split(' ');
	if(args[0] == 'seesmic') {
		return '<br />' + Dsq.Templates.mediaSeesmic(args[1], args[2]);
	}
	return '';
};


/**
 * Shorcuts
 */
Dsq.$ = function(element) { return document.getElementById(element); };
Dsq.$b = document.body || document.getElementsByTagName('body')[0];


/**
 * Dsq.Debug: Logging functions.
 */

Dsq.Debug = new function() {this.log=function(s){};this.profile=function(f){if(typeof f == 'function')return f();else return eval(f);};};


/**
 * Dsq.Urls: URL paths
 */
Dsq.Urls = new function() {
	this.LOGIN = '/profile/login/';
	this.LOGOUT = '/logout/';
	this.REPLY = 'http://jackandjillpolitics.disqus.com/tuesday_open_thread_hi_everybody_81/reply.html';
	this.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE = '/AnonymousUser/';
	this.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR = 'http://media.disqus.com/images/noavatar92.png';
};
// Dsq.Urls

/**
 * Dsq.Validators: Validation for form fields
 */
Dsq.Validators = new function() {
	this.VALID_EMAIL_RE = /^[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*\@(([a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*)+\.[a-z]{2,}|([0-9]+\.){3}[0-9]+)$/i;
	this.name = function(name) {
		var error = false;

		if(typeof Dsq.Templates.placeholder !== 'undefined' &&
		   name == Dsq.Templates.placeholder.name) {
			error = true;
		}
		if(name.length <= 1) {
			error = true;
		}

		if(error) {
			return "Please enter a name to comment.";
		} else {
			return true;
		}
	};
	this.email = function(addr) {
		if(Dsq.Validators.VALID_EMAIL_RE.test(addr)) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please enter a valid email to comment.";
		}
	};
	this.url = function(addr) {
		if(!addr || addr.indexOf('.') != -1) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please check your website URL (this field is optional).";
		}
	};

	this.validate = function(bulk_validation, failure_callback) {
		failure_callback = failure_callback || function(e){ alert(e); };

		for(var i = 0; i < bulk_validation.length; i++) {
			v = bulk_validation[i];
			ret = v.validator(v.value);
			if(ret !== true) {
				failure_callback(ret);
				return false;
			}
		}
		return true;
	};
};

/**
 * Dsq.Utils: Generic utility functions.
 */
Dsq.Utils = new function() {
	this.ie = /msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent);
	this.ie7 = (document.all && !window.opera && window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true : false;
	this.ie6 = (!window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true: false;
	this.webkit = navigator.userAgent.indexOf('AppleWebKit/') >= 0;
	this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache = {};
	this._styleSheet = null;

	this.gebiFromElement = function(el, id, tag) {
		// This only method only helps IE.
		if(!this.ie) {
			return Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var cacheKey = el.id + '-' + tag;
			tag = tag || 'div';
			if(typeof this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] != 'undefined') {
				collection = this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey];
			} else {
				collection = el.getElementsByTagName(tag);
				this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] = collection;
			}

			for(var i = 0; i < collection.length; i++) {
				if(collection[i].id == id) {
					return collection[i];
				}
			}
			return null;
		}
	};

	this.execOnReady = function(func) {
		var node = document.createElement('document:ready');
		try {
			node.doScroll('left');
			func();
			node = null;
		} catch(err) {
			setTimeout(function() { Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(func); }, 10);
		}
	};


	// Courtesy of http://www.quirksmode.org/js/cookies.html
	this.createCookie = function(name,value,days) {
		if (days) {
			var date = new Date();
			date.setTime(date.getTime()+(days*24*60*60*1000));
			var expires = "; expires="+date.toGMTString();
		}
		else var expires = "";
		document.cookie = name+"="+value+expires+"; path=/";
	};

	this.readCookie = function(name) {
		var nameEQ = name + "=";
		var ca = document.cookie.split(';');
		for(var i=0;i < ca.length;i++) {
			var c = ca[i];
			while (c.charAt(0)==' ') c = c.substring(1,c.length);
			if (c.indexOf(nameEQ) == 0) return c.substring(nameEQ.length,c.length);
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.eraseCookie = function(name) {
		Dsq.Utils.createCookie(name,"",-1);
	};

	this.deleteNode = function(node) {
		if(node) {
			this.deleteChildren(node);
			if(typeof node.outerHTML != 'undefined') { node.outerHTML = ''; }
			else if(node.parentNode) { node.parentNode.removeChild(node); }
			delete node;
		}
	};

	this.deleteChildren = function(node) {
		if(node) {
			for(var x = node.childNodes.length-1; x >= 0; x--) {
				var childNode = node.childNodes[x];
				if(childNode.hasChildNodes()) { this.deleteChildren(childNode); }
				if(typeof childNode.outerHTML != 'undefined') { childNode.outerHTML = ''; }
				else node.removeChild(childNode);
				delete childNode;
			}
		}
	};

	this.findPos = function(obj) {
		var curleft = 0;
		var curtop = 0;
		if (obj.offsetParent) {
			do {
				curleft += obj.offsetLeft;
				curtop += obj.offsetTop;
			} while (obj = obj.offsetParent);
		}
		return [curleft,curtop];
	};

	this.getWindowSize = function() {
		var windowWidth = -1;
		var windowHeight = -1;

		if(typeof(window.innerWidth) == 'number') { //Non-IE
			windowWidth = window.innerWidth;
			windowHeight = window.innerHeight;
		} else if(document.documentElement) { // IE 6+ in 'standards compliant mode'
			windowWidth = document.documentElement.clientWidth || document.body.clientWidth;
			windowHeight = document.documentElement.clientHeight || document.body.clientHeight;
		}

		return [windowWidth, windowHeight];
	}

	this.getScrollPos = function() {
		var scrollWidth, scrollTop;

		if(document.documentElement && (document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.documentElement.scrollWidth)) {
			scrollWidth = document.documentElement.scrollWidth;
			// IE is weird here.  If no doctype is provided, document.body.scrollTop is 0,
			// otherwise document.documentElement.scrollTop is 0.
			scrollTop = document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.body.scrollTop;
		} else if(document.body.scrollTop && document.body.scrollWidth) {
			scrollWidth = document.body.scrollWidth;
			scrollTop = document.body.scrollTop;
		}

		return [scrollWidth, scrollTop];
	}

	this.addEventListener = function(instance, eventName, listener) {
		var listenerFn = listener;
		if (instance.addEventListener) {
			instance.addEventListener(eventName, listenerFn, false);
		} else if (instance.attachEvent) {
			listenerFn = function() {
				listener(window.event);
			};
			instance.attachEvent("on" + eventName, listenerFn);
		} else {
			throw new Error("Event registration not supported");
		}
		return {
			instance: instance,
			name: eventName,
			listener: listenerFn
		};
	};

	this.removeEventListener = function(event) {
		var instance = event.instance;
		if (instance.removeEventListener) {
			instance.removeEventListener(event.name, event.listener, false);
		} else if (instance.detachEvent) {
			instance.detachEvent("on" + event.name, event.listener);
		}
	};

	this.fixIframesIE = function(id) {
		var disqusThread = Dsq.$(disqus_container_id);
		var iframes = disqusThread.getElementsByTagName('iframe');

		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-content');
		}

		for(i = 0; i < iframes.length; i++) {
			if (container) {
				iframes[i].style.width = container.offsetWidth;
			}
		}
	};

	this.getElementsByClassName = function(oElm, strTagName, strClassName) {
	/* Credit: Jonathan Snook [http://www.snook.ca/jonathan], Robert Nyman [http://www.robertnyman.com] */
		var arrElements = (strTagName == "*" && oElm.all)? oElm.all : oElm.getElementsByTagName(strTagName);
		var arrReturnElements = new Array();
		strClassName = strClassName.replace(/\-/g, "\\-");
		var oRegExp = new RegExp("(^|\\s)" + strClassName + "(\\s|$)");
		var oElement;
		for(var i = 0; i < arrElements.length; i++) {
			oElement = arrElements[i];
			if(oRegExp.test(oElement.className)) {
				arrReturnElements.push(oElement);
			}
		}
		return (arrReturnElements);
	};

	this.postToUrl = function(url, post_data, opt_redirect) {
		var form = document.createElement('form');
		var iframe_container = document.createElement('div');
		var id = 'dsq-temp-iframe-' + (new Date()).getTime();

		form.method = 'POST';
		form.action = url;
		if (!opt_redirect) {
			form.target = id;
		}
		iframe_container.innerHTML = '<iframe style="display:none" name="' + id + '" id="' + id + '"></iframe>';

		for(var key in post_data) {
			if(post_data.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var input = document.createElement('input');
				input.name = key;
				input.type = 'hidden';
				input.value = post_data[key];

				form.appendChild(input);
			}
		}

		Dsq.$b.appendChild(iframe_container);
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(form);
		form.submit();
	};

	// Strips integer id from id of element in the form ('some-id-###')
	this.extractId = function(e) {
		var chunks = e.id.split('-');
		if(chunks.length <= 1) {
			return 0;
		} else {
			return parseInt(chunks[chunks.length-1]);
		}
	};

	this.getStyle = function(el, styleProp) {
		if(el.currentStyle) {
			var y = el.currentStyle[styleProp];
		} else if(window.getComputedStyle) {
			var y = document.defaultView.getComputedStyle(el, null).getPropertyValue(styleProp);
		}

		if(y == 'transparent' || y == '') {
			this.getStyle(el.parentNode, styleProp);
		} else {
			return y;
		}
	};

	this.execScript = function(url, append_qs, container) {
		var script = document.createElement('script');
		append_qs = typeof append_qs == 'undefined' ? true : append_qs;
		container = container || Dsq.container;

		if(append_qs) {
			var j = (url.indexOf('?') >= 0) ? '&' : '?';
			url += j + (new Date()).getTime();
		}
		script.type = 'text/javascript';
		script.charset = 'UTF-8';
		script.src = url;
		container.appendChild(script);
		return script;
	};

	this.pluralize = function(num, singular, plural) {
		return (num != 1) ? plural || 's' : singular || '';
	};

	this.getRequestParams = function(queryString /* optional */) {
		var pairs, tuple;
		var params = {};

		queryString = queryString || window.location.search.substring(1);
		pairs = queryString.split('&');

		for (var i = 0, pair; pair = pairs[i]; i++) {
			tuple = pair.split('=');
			params[tuple[0]] = (tuple[1] || true);
		}

		return params;
	};

	this.addCssRule = function(selector, styleText, index) {
		var stylesheet;
		index = index || 0;

		if(!this._styleSheet) {
			var styleEl = document.createElement('style');
			document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(styleEl);
			this._styleSheet = styleEl.sheet;
			if(!this._styleSheet) {
				// IE does not like our newly created stylesheet.
				this._styleSheet = document.styleSheets[document.styleSheets.length-1];
			}
		}
		stylesheet = this._styleSheet;

		if(stylesheet.insertRule) {
			var ruleText = selector + ' { ' + styleText + ' }';
			if(index == -1) {
				index = stylesheet.cssRules.length;
			}
			stylesheet.insertRule(ruleText, index);
		} else if(stylesheet.addRule) {
			stylesheet.addRule(selector, styleText, index);
		}
	};

	this.forEachIn = function(obj, callback) {
		for(var key in obj) {
			if(obj.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				callback(key, obj[key]);
			}
		}
	};

	this._interpolateGlobalContext = {
		// values that get used a lot and are global to the request
		'profile_url': Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE,

		'disqus_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url,
		'media_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.media_url,
		'request_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.username,
		'request_display_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username,
		'forum_name': Dsq.jsonData.forum.name
	};

	this.renderFromContextStack = function(key, contexts) {
		// Returns the first instance of `key` in the array of objects `contexts` or else ''
		for (var i=0; i<contexts.length; i++) {
			if (contexts[i][key] !== undefined) {
				return String(contexts[i][key]);
			}
		}
		throw new Error('key ' + key + ' not found in context');
	};

	var that = this;
	this.interpolate = function(fmt, opt_localContext) {
		// Interpolate `fmt` named-format string with an assumed global context.
		// Based on `interpolate` in django.views.i18n
		var contextStack = [opt_localContext || {}, that._interpolateGlobalContext];
		return fmt.replace(/%\(\w+\)s/g, function(match){
			return that.renderFromContextStack(match.slice(2,-2), contextStack);
		});
	};

	this.stripTags = function(s) {
		// Removes HTML tags from `s`
		return s.replace(/(<([^>]+)>)/g,"");

	};

	this.assert = function(b) {
		if (!b) {
			throw new Error('Assertion error.');
		}
	};

};
// Dsq.Utils

/**
 * Dsq.Popup: Popup helper functions.
 */
Dsq.Popup = new function() {
	this.timeHide = new Array();
	this.timeShow = new Array();
	this.activePopup = {};
	this.profileCache = {};
	this.statusCache = {};

	this.showTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the hide timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeHide[post_id]);

		// start the timer
		if(!Dsq.Popup.profileIsOn && !Dsq.Thread.adminIsOn) {
			this.timeShow[post_id] = setTimeout("Dsq.Popup.popProfile(\"" + post_id + "\")", 400);
		}
	};

	this.hideTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the show timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeShow[post_id]);
	};

	this.updateProfile = function(username) {
		// Callback from /embed/profile.js
		if (this.statusCache[username]) {
			var statusEl = Dsq.$('dsq-profile-status-' + username);
			statusEl.innerHTML = this.statusCache[username];
			statusEl.style.display = 'block';
		}

		if (this.profileCache[username]) {
			var _cache = this.profileCache[username];

			var _genhtml = function(text) { return '<span><big>' + text + '</big></span>'; };
			var _no_comments = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_COMMENTS(_cache.comments_count));
			var _no_likes = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_LIKES(_cache.likes_count));
			var _no_points = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_POINTS(_cache.points));

			var statsEl = Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + username);
			statsEl.innerHTML = '';

			if (Dsq.jsonData.users[username].registered) {
				statsEl.innerHTML = _no_comments + _no_likes;
			}
			statsEl.innerHTML += _no_points;

			var activeSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.active_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.active_sites[i];
				activeSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (activeSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = activeSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = 'This site.';
			}

			var moderatedSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.moderated_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.moderated_sites[i];
				moderatedSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (moderatedSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + username).innerHTML = moderatedSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + username).innerHTML = '';
			}
		}

		// Reposition popup after full HTML is rendered
		if(Dsq.Popup.activePopup && Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el) {
			Dsq.Popup.initPopup(Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.type);
		}

	};

	this.showCookieMsgs = function() {
		var title = '';
		var message = '';
		var numAlerts = 0;

		Dsq.Utils.forEachIn(Dsq.jsonData.cookie_messages, function(k, v) {
			if (!v) return;

			switch(k) {
				// Cookie: Twitter
				case 'post_twitter':
					if (v === 'error') {
						title = 'Twitter Error!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-error">Oops, we couldn\'t tweet this comment. Please check your <a href="http://disqus.com/account/services">account settings</a>.</li>';
					} else {
						var _msg = v.split(':');
						title = 'Tweeted!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-success">Your comment was successfully tweeted. <a href="http://twitter.com/' + _msg[0] + '/status/' + _msg[1] + '">Click here to view the tweet</a>.</li>';
					}
					break;
				// Cookie: Unapproved Post
				case 'post_not_approved':
					title = 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-not-approved">Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.</li>';
					break;
				// Cookie: Profile Found
				case 'post_has_profile':
					title = 'Use your existing commenter profile';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-has-profile">You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a></li>';
					break;
				case 'user_created':
					var _data = v.split(':');
					title = 'Profile created!';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-user-created">You have just created a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, the best way to claim, manage, and track your comments all over the web. \
					<br /><br />A confirmation is being sent to <strong>' + _data[1] + '</strong>. Please check for this email in order to verify your profile. \
					<ul class="dsq-list-tick"> \
						<li>Your username is <strong>' + _data[0] +'</strong>. <a href="http://disqus.com/people/' + _data[0] + '/" target="_blank">Click here to view your public profile</a>.</li> \
						<li>Be sure to set your profile picture, as well as connect your <span class="dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> and <span class="dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> accounts. <a href="http://disqus.com/account/" target="_blank">Click here for account settings</a>.</li> \
					</ul> \
					</li>'
					break;
				default:
					break;
			}
			numAlerts++;
		});

		if(numAlerts > 1) {
			message = '<ul class="dsq-list-bluebullet">' + message;
			message += '</ul>';
			title = 'Thanks for posting!';
		}
		if(numAlerts > 0) {
			if(typeof(disqus_cookie_msgs) == 'function') {
				disqus_cookie_msgs(message, title);
			} else {
				Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
			}
		}
	};

	this.helpBadges = function(post_id) {
		var html = ' \
			<ul class="dsq-popup-help"> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile with a confirmed email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, but has not yet confirmed his or her email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span> is not logged in with any account and has not claimed his or her comments.</li> \
				<li class="dsq-help-otheraccts">Other accounts</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> is using his or her Facebook profile via Facebook Connect.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> is using his or her Twitter profile via Twitter Sign-in.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-openid">OpenID</span> is using his or her OpenID.</li> \
			</ul> \
		';

		this.popModal(html, 'Help: Types of Commenters', post_id);
		return;
	};

	this.permalink = function(post_id) {
		var header = 'Link to this comment';
		var body = '<strong>You are anchored to</strong>:<br />' + document.location.protocol + '//' + document.location.host + document.location.pathname + document.location.search + '#comment-' + post_id;

		this.popModal(body, header, post_id);
	};

	this.login = function(header, body) {
		var h = header || 'Login or Register';
		var b = body || '';
		b += Dsq.Templates.frameLogin({id: 'dsq-popup-login'});
		b += '</iframe>'; // HACK: Sometimes there is something funky with the IFRAME SRC that causes no end tag
		this.popModal(b, h, null, true, 'dsq-popup-login');
	};

	this.blacklist = function(id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		var title = 'Add to Blacklist';
		var message = ' \
		Adding this person to the blacklist will block him or her from commenting on this site. Check the following types that you would like to add to the blacklist:'
		+ (userData['registered'] ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-username" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-username"><strong>Username</strong>: ' + userData['username'] + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ (_meta.email ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-email" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-email"><strong>Email address</strong>: ' + _meta.email + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ '<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
			<input id="dsq-blacklist-ip" type="checkbox" onclick="Dsq.$(\'dsq-blacklist-ip-warning\').style.display=\'block\'"> \
			<label for="dsq-blacklist-ip"><strong>IP address</strong>: ' + _meta.ip + '</label> \
		</div> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p id="dsq-blacklist-ip-warning" style="display:none">	\
				Note: Blocking this person\'s IP address may also unintentionally prevent others, who share his/her IP address, from commenting on this site. \
				This may include people who are sharing the same computer, living in the same house, or using the same Internet provider. Only block an IP address as a last resort. \
			</p> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p style="text-align:center"><button onclick="Dsq.Post.blockUser(' + id + '); this.disabled=true; this.innerHTML=\'Just one moment...\'">Add to Blacklist</button></p> \
		';

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
	};

	this.remoteAccountSettings = function() {
		var body = '';
		// Set up IFrame.
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/_auth/embed/remote_settings/';
		var attributes = {id: 'dsq-popup-account-settings'};
		if (typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}

		body = Dsq.Templates._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
		this.popModal(body, 'Account Settings', null, true, 'dsq-popup-account-settings');
	};

	this.popModal = function(message, title, post_id, use_listener, extra_classes) {
		var container = document.createElement('div');
		var header, body;

		Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);

		if(typeof(title) == 'undefined') { title = ''; }
		if(typeof(use_listener) == 'undefined') { use_listener = true; }

		if(post_id) {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message-' + post_id;
		} else {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message';
		}

		header = title;
		body = message;

		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupModal(header, body);
		Dsq.Popup.initPopup(container, post_id, 'message', extra_classes);
		if(use_listener) {
			Dsq.Popup.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', Dsq.Popup._closePopup);
		}
	};

	this.popAlert = this.popModal;

	this.loading = function(post_id) {
		var title = Dsq.Strings.JUST_A_MOMENT;
		var body = '<div style="text-align:center; padding: 5px 0 10px 0"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif" alt="" /></div>'
		Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
	};

	this.lightbox = function(message, title, post_id) {
		// Wraps Dsq.Popup.popModal

		var overlay = document.createElement('div');
		overlay.id = 'dsq-overlay';
		overlay.className = 'dsq-overlay';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(overlay);
		
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, post_id, false, 'dsq-lightbox');
	};

	this.popProfile = function(post_id, userKey) {
		var post = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id];
		if (post && post.has_been_anonymized) {
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('This message was anonymized by its previous owner.', 'Anonymized', post_id);
			return;
		}

		if(post_id) {
			userKey = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id].user_key;	
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][userKey];
		var elId = 'dsq-popup-profile-' + userKey;
		var container = document.createElement('div');

		if(this.activePopup.el) {
			this._closePopup(null, true);
			if(this.activePopup.linkClicked) {
				this.activePopup.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		container.id = elId;
		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupProfile(userKey);

		this.initPopup(container, post_id, 'profile');
		this.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._closePopup);

		if(!this.profileCache[userKey]) {
			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/embed/profile.js'
				+ '?username=' + userKey
				+ '&anon=' + (userData['registered'] ? 0 : 1)
				+ '&f=' + Dsq.jsonData['request'].forum);
		} else {
			this.updateProfile(userKey);
		}
	};

	this._closePopup = function(e, force) {
		var activePopup = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el;
		var id = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id;
		var link = 'dsq-avatar-' + id; // HACK: Specific to profile toggle target

		// HACK: This event should be gone if there is no active popup.
		if(!activePopup) {
			return;
		}
		if(force || !Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, activePopup.id)) {
			// TODO: This is breaking iE?
			if(Dsq.Popup.popupListener) {
				Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Popup.popupListener);
			}
			
			// Kill overlay
			var overlay = Dsq.$('dsq-overlay');
			if(overlay) { Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(overlay); }
			
			try {
				Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(activePopup);
			} catch(e) {
				// HACK: IE6 throws an error when using deleteNode() with a node containing a <table> in the html.
				activePopup.parentNode.removeChild(activePopup);
			}
			Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {};
		}

		if(!force && Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Popup.activePopup.linkClicked = true;
		}

	};

	this.initPopup = function(popup, post_id, type, extra_classes) {
		popup.className = 'dsq-popup dsq-popup-' + type + ' ' + (extra_classes ? extra_classes : '');
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6 || Dsq.Utils.ie7) {
			// HACK: We can't modify the body before it's ready, so we need
			//       to use an IE-safe "DOMReady" workaround before loading
			//       our popup.
			Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(function() {Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup); });
		} else {
			Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup);
		}

		popup.style.display = 'block';

		var xPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[0] - popup.offsetWidth) / 2;
		var yPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[1] - popup.offsetHeight) / 2;

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) {
			yPos += Dsq.Utils.getScrollPos()[1];
		}

		popup.style.left = xPos + 'px';
		popup.style.top = yPos + 'px';

		Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {
			'el' : popup,
			'id' : post_id,
			'type': type,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};
	};

	this.isClicked = function(e, id) {
		var t = e.target || e.srcElement;
		while(t && t.parentNode) {
			if(t.id == id) {
				return true;
			}

			t = t.parentNode;
		}
		return false;
	};
};
// Dsq.Popup

/**
 * Dsq.Templates
 */
Dsq.Templates = new function() {
	/*
	 * Counter keeping track of the number of posts iterated over.
	 */
	this.postLoopCounter = 0;
	this.filters = {};
	this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-post-add';
	this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-post-add';

	this.registerTemplate = function(name, func) {
		this['$$_' + name] = func;

		if(typeof DsqLocal.Filters != 'undefined'
		&& typeof DsqLocal.Filters[name] == 'function') {
			// Push filters to this.filters to unify code.
			this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
			this.filters[name].push(DsqLocal.Filters[name]);
		}

		this[name] = function() {
			var ret;

			if(typeof DsqLocal.Templates != 'undefined'
			&& typeof DsqLocal.Templates[name] == 'function') {
				ret = DsqLocal.Templates[name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(ret === undefined) {
				ret = this['$$_' + name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(this.filters[name]) {
				var args = [ret];

				args.push.apply(args, arguments);
				for(var i = 0; i < this.filters[name].length; i++) {
					ret = this.filters[name][i].apply(this, args);
				}
			}

			return ret;
		};
	};

	this.registerFilter = function(name, func) {
		this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
		this.filters[name].push(func);
	};

	/**
	 * Dsq.Templates.Filters
	 */
	this.Filters = new function() {
		this.commentContainer = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			var classes = [];
			if(Dsq.jsonData.request.page > 1) {
				classes.push('dsq-append');
			}

			//
			// Extra classes used for custom themes
			//

			if(_meta.depth) {
				classes.push('dsq-comment-child', 'dsq-depth-' + _meta.depth, 'dsq-parent-is-' + _meta.parent_post_id);
			}


			//

			if(_meta.author_is_creator) {
				// TODO: We need to deprecate the "special" class since it is not properly prefixed.
				classes.push('special', 'dsq-special');
			}
			if(_meta.author_is_moderator) {
				classes.push('dsq-moderator');
			}
			classes.push(['dsq-odd', 'dsq-even'][Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter % 2]);

			s = s.substring(0, s.lastIndexOf('>'));
			return s + ' class="dsq-comment ' + classes.join(' ') + '" style="margin-left:' + _meta.depth*30 + 'px">';
		};

		this.commentContent = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			if (_meta.killed) {
				return '<em>Comment removed.</em>';
			} else if (!_meta.approved) {
				return '<em>This comment was flagged for review.</em>';
			}

			s = s.replace(Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE, Dsq.MediaPostHandler);
			return s;
		};
	};

	//
	// Thread
	//
	// TODO: These need to be stripped of all Django template tags.

	this.authPost = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {
			return '';
		}
		var result = [];
		result = result.concat([
				'<div id="dsq-auth"',
						Dsq.jsonData.integration.reply_position ? 'class="dsq-auth-bottom"' : '',
						'>',
					'<div class="dsq-by">',
						'<a href="http://disqus.com" target="_blank">',
							(Dsq.jsonData.integration.disqus_logo ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/by-disqus.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">') :
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/dsq-button-120x19.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">')
							),
						'</a>',
					'</div>',
					'<div class="dsq-auth-header">',
						'<h3 id="dsq-add-new-comment" class="dsq-h3-addcomment">',
								Dsq.Strings.ADD_NEW_COMMENT,
						'</h3>',
						'<div id="dsq-login">',
						(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
								? '<p class="dsq-login-message" id="dsq-login-message">You are commenting as a <a class="dsq-help" title="Click for more information" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Guest</a>. You may select one to log into:</p>'
								: '')
		]);
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			result = result.concat([
							Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
								'<a id="dsq-login-toggle" href="%(disqus_url)s%(login_url)s?next=article:%(thread_id)s" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false"><img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsq-profile-btn.png" title="%(log_into)s" alt="%(log_into)s"/></a>',
								{login_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGIN, thread_id: Dsq.jsonData.thread.id, log_into: Dsq.Strings.LOG_INTO_DISQUS}
								),
							'&nbsp; ',
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ?
								'<div id="dsq-fbc-login" onlogin="DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin()" size="medium" background="light" length="short" style="display:inline; margin-right:7px"></div>' :
								''
							),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-twitter-login" class="dsq-twitter-login" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect();" style="display:inline; cursor: pointer"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/twitter-signin-short.png" style="margin-right:7px" /></div>', {}) : ''),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-openid-login" class="dsq-openid-login" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.requestURL();" style="display:inline; cursor:pointer;"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/openid-login-button.png"/></div>', {}
								) : '')
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
						'</div>', // dsq-login
					'</div>', // dsq-auth-header
					'<div id="dsq-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated" ',
						Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated ? 'style="display:block"' : '',
						'>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-pic">',
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">' +
																			'<img class="dsq-post-avatar" src="%(avatar_url)s" alt="" /></a>',
																			{avatar_url: Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR,
																			url: (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
																					 ? Dsq.jsonData.request.url
																					 : Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE) }),
						'</div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>', {url:Dsq.jsonData.request.url})
										  )
										: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(profile_url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>')
											)
									),
								'</li>',
								'<li class="logout">',
									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsqicon12.png" alt="%(logged_in_as)s"/>&nbsp',
											{logged_in_as: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username)})
										: ''),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="%(logout_from_disqus)s">',
											{logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN, logout_from_disqus: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('DISQUS')})
										: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'twitter')
												? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using Twitter (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
												 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
												: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'openid')
													 ? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using OpenID (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
													 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
													 : ''
													)
											)
									),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote ? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('<span class="logo-disqus">DISQUS</span>') : ''),
									'</a>',
								'</li>',
							'</ul>',
						'</div>',
					'</div>'
		]);
		if (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect) {
			result = result.concat([
					'<div id="dsq-fbc-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated">',
						'<div id="dsq-fbc-profilepic" class="dsq-authenticated-pic" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.ProfilePic" size="square" facebook-logo="true"></div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									'Logged in as <span id="dsq-fbc-name" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.Name" linked="true" useyou="false"></span>',
								'</li>',
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						'</div>',
					'</div>'
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
				'</div>', // dsq-auth
				'<div id="dsq-toolbar-items">',
				'</div>'
		]);
		result = result.concat([
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					//
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					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? 'or sign in using OpenID ' : '') +
					Dsq.Utils.interpolate('to comment on <strong>%(forum_name)s</strong>.</p>')) :
					''
				),
				'<div id="dsq-post-add"></div>',
				'<div style="margin:10px 0">',
				((Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media) ?
						'<a href="#" id="dsq-media-link" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, false, \'media\'); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.USE_MEDIA + ' <small>&#9660;</small></a>' :
						''),
				'</div>'
		]);
		return result.join('');
	};


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		var html = '\<h3 id="dsq-comments-count" class="dsq-h3-commentcount">\
	 <span id="dsq-num-posts">132</span> Comments\
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	 <span class="dsq-item-feed">\
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	 </span>\
	 </h3>\
	 <div id="dsq-options" style="margin:15px 0">\
	 <span class="dsq-item-sort">\
	 Sort by\
	 <select id="dsq-sort-select" onchange="Dsq.Thread.sortBy(this.value);">\
	 <option value="hot" selected="selected">Popular now</option>\
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	 <span class="dsq-item-cp"><a href="http://jackandjillpolitics.disqus.com/tuesday_open_thread_hi_everybody_81/">Community Page</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>\
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	 <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/email.png" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle">\
	 <span id="dsq-subscribe">\
	 <a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a>\
	 </span>\
	 </span>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-alerts">\
	 <p><a href="http://disqus.com/profile/login/?next=article:3964679" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false">You must log into your Disqus Profile in order to post comments.</a></p>\
	 </div>\
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		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) { 
			html = ' \
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				<div style="display:none; margin-top:10px;" id="dsq-upgrade-message"> \
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				</div> \
			</div> \
			' + html; 
		}
		return html;
	};

	this.footer = function() {
		var html = Dsq.Templates.pagination();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.authPost();
		

		html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
		

		return html;
	};

	this.pagination = function() {
		var html = '';
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) { Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = ''; }
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.thread.paginate) { return ''; }

		//
		// TODO: num_paginator still uses the template tag for pagination, 
		// 		while append_paginator does it all in JavaScript.
		//		This should all be in JavaScript.
		//

		if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages > 1 && Dsq.jsonData.request.page < Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages) {
			html = ' \<a class="dsq-paginate-append-text" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this); return false">Show more comments...</a>\
	 <button class="dsq-button-small dsq-paginate-append-button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this);">Load more comments</button>\
			';
		}
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = html;
			return '';
		} else {
			return '<div id="dsq-pagination" class="dsq-pagination">' + html + '</div>';
		}
	};

	this.trackbacks = function() {
		var html = '';

		if(typeof DsqLocal != 'undefined' && DsqLocal.trackback_url && DsqLocal.trackbacks) {
			var trackbacks = DsqLocal.trackbacks;
			var trackback_url = DsqLocal.trackback_url;
		} else {
			var trackbacks = [
			
			
			];
			var trackback_url = 'http://jackandjillpolitics.disqus.com/tuesday_open_thread_hi_everybody_81/trackback/';
		}

		html += '<div class="dsq-item-trackback">Trackback URL&nbsp;&nbsp;<input class="dsq-trackback-url" onclick="this.select()" readonly="true" value="' + trackback_url + '"></div>';

		if(trackbacks.length) {
			html += '<ul id="dsq-references">'
			for(var i = 0; i < trackbacks.length; i++) {
				var trackback = trackbacks[i];
				html += '<li><cite><a href="' + trackback.author_url + '" rel="nofollow">' + trackback.author_name + '</a></cite> \
						<p class="dsq-meta">' + trackback.date + '</p> \
						<p class="dsq-content">' + trackback.excerpt + '</p></li>';
			}
			html += '</ul>';
			html = '<h3 class="dsq-h3-trackbacks">Trackbacks</h3>' + html;
		}

		return html;
	}

	this.showRetweets = function(id, limit, element_id /* Optional */) {
		var source, html = '';

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			if (reaction.id === id) {
				source = reaction.retweets;
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		}

		if (source) {
			if (limit === 0) {
				limit = source.length;
			}

			for (var j = 0; j < limit; j++) {
				var rt = source[j];
				html += '<a href="' + rt.url + '">' + rt.author_name + '</a>'	+ ((j === (limit - 1)) ? '.' : ', ');
			}
		}

		if (element_id === undefined) {
			return html;
		}

		var element = document.getElementById(element_id);
		element.innerHTML = html;
		return element;
	};

	this.showMoreReactions = function(reactions, has_more, start, limit) {
		var link = document.getElementById('dsq-show-more-reactions');
		var container = link.parentNode;
		container.removeChild(link);

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = reactions[i]; i++) {
			var el = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (el) {
				container.innerHTML += el;
			}
		}

		if (has_more) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = start;
			var l = limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			container.innerHTML += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}
	};

	this.generateReactionHTML = function(reaction) {
		if (reaction.body === null || reaction.body == '') {
			return;
		}

		if (reaction.author_name === '') {
			reaction.author_name = '&nbsp;';
		}

		if (reaction.url === '') {
			reaction.url = reaction.get_service_url;
		}

		/* Reaction HTML begins */
		var item = '<li class="dsq-reaction" id="dsq-reaction-' + reaction.id + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-header">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-header-avatar">';

		if (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== '') {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="' + reaction.author_url +'">';
		} else {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="#" onclick="return false;">';
		}

		if (reaction.avatar_url && reaction.avatar_url !== '') {
			item += '<img src="' + reaction.avatar_url + '"/>';
		} else {
			item += '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/noavatar32.png"/>';
		}

		var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
		item += '<img class="dsq-service-icon" src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/reactions/services/' + service_icon + '.png"/>'
			+ '</a></div>'
			+ '<cite><span>' + reaction.author_name + '</span></cite>'
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"><a class="dsq-header-time">' + reaction.date_created + '</a></span>'
			+ '</div><div class="dsq-reaction-body">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-message">' + reaction.body + '</div>'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-footer">From <a class="dsq-service-name" target="_blank" href="' + reaction.url + '">' + reaction.get_service_name + '</a> '
			+ 'via ' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? '<a href="http://backtype.com/">BackType</a>' : '<a href="' + reaction.source_url + '">UberVU</a>')
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator ? '&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;<a class="dsq-hide-reaction" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.hide(' + reaction.id + '); return false;">Hide</a>' : '') + '</div></div>';

		if(reaction.retweets) {
			var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
			if (num_retweets > 0) {
				item += '<div class="dsq-reaction-retweets">';
				if (num_retweets == 1) {
					item += 'One more retweet from <a href="' + reaction.retweets[0].url + '">'  + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '</a>';
				} else {
					item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');

					item += '<span id="dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '">';
					var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 15) ? 15 : num_retweets;
					item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);

					if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
						item += '</span> <a onclick="Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(' + reaction.id + ', 0, \'dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '\');'
							+ 'this.parentNode.removeChild(this); return false;" href="#">Show all</a>';
					}
				}
				item += '</div>';
			}
		}

		item += '</li>'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
		return item;
	};

	this.reactions = function() {
		var html, reaction;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '';
		for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (item) {
				html += item;
			}
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
			var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			html += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}

		return '<h3 class="dsq-h3-reactions">Reactions</h3><ul id="dsq-reactions" class="dsq-reactions">' + html + '</ul>';
	};
	
	this.missingPermissions = function() {
		return '	<p><a href="http://disqus.com/profile/login/?next=article:3964679" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false">You must log into your Disqus Profile in order to post comments.</a></p> \n';
	};

	//
	// Post
	//

	this.prependPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="comment-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="dsq-comment-reply-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-header-avatar" id="dsq-header-avatar-' + post_id + '" onmouseover="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')"> \
				<a id="dsq-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-avatar" href="' + userData.url + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.show_avatar
				? '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key].avatar + '" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '</a>'
			+ '</div> \
		';
	};

	this.postAppendHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];

		return ''
			+ (_meta.author_is_moderator
				? '<img class="dsq-mod-star" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/bullet-star.png" title="Moderator" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"> \
				<a id="dsq-time-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-header-time" href="#comment-' + post_id + '" title="Permalink">' + _meta.date + '</a> \
			</span>';
	};

	this.preBody = function(post_id) {
		return '';
	}

	this.postBody = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Deprecate flagging conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		return ''
			+ (_meta.edited
				? '<p class="dsq-editedtxt">(Edited by a moderator)</p>'
				: '')
			;
	};

	this.postFooter = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Use media should be conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		if(_meta.killed) { return ''; }

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer" id="dsq-comment-footer-' + post_id + '"> \
				<div id="dsq-points-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-likedtxt">'
				+ (_meta.points
					? _meta.points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(_meta.points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.'
					: '')
				+ '</div>'
				+ '<ul class="dsq-comment-options dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.votable
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first dsq-rate" id="dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id + '">'
					+ (!_meta.up_voted
						? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.rate(this, ' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Like</a>'
						: 'You liked this.') + '</li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-report' + (!_meta.votable ? ' dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-post-report-' + post_id + '"><a href="#" class="dsq-post-report" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + post_id + ', false); return false;">Report</a></li> \
				</ul> \
				<ul class="dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.can_reply
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first"><a href="#" id="dsq-reply-link-' + post_id +'" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(this, ' + post_id +'); return false;">Reply</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply && !_meta.has_replies && _meta.from_request_user
					? '<li id="dsq-edit-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-edit-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="' + (!_meta.can_reply ? 'dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-more-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-more-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'more\'); return false">More <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media
					? '<li id="dsq-media-el-' + post_id +'" style="display:none"><a id="dsq-media-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'media\'); return false">Use Media <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '</ul>'
				+ '<div id="dsq-reply-bar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar" style="display:none"> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-items-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-items"> \
						</div> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-auth-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-auth"> \
							 \
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									<a href="#" class="dsq-help dsq-reply-req-opt" title="You must log into an account in order to comment on Jack and Jill Politics" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Required:</a> \
								 \
								<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/dsq-favicon-16x16.png" alt="" /> \
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								 \
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									<img class="fb_login_image" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/images/fbconnect/login-buttons/connect_light_small_short.gif" alt="Facebook Connect"/> \
									<a href="#" onclick="FB.Connect.requireSession(DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin); return false;">Connect</a> \
								 \
								&nbsp;or&nbsp; \
									<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/twitter-signin-icon.png" alt="" /> \
									<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect(); return false">Sign-in</a> \
								 \
								 \
							 \
						</div> \
					</div> \
					<div id="dsq-reply-' + post_id + '"></div> \
			</div> \
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	};

	//
	// Iframes
	//

	this._makeAttributes = function(attributes) {
		// Makes a tag attributes string out of an object.
		// Caller is responsible for making sure nothing needs to be escaped.
		var result = [];
		for (key in attributes) {
			result.push(' ' + key + '="' + attributes[key] + '"');
		}
		result = result.join('');
		return result;
	};

	this._frameGeneric = function(base_url, params, attributes) {
		if(typeof(disqus_callback_params) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_callback_params = '';
		}

		var default_params = {
			// TODO: These should be moved to Dsq.jsonData.
			'f'				: 'jackandjillpolitics',
			't'				: 'tuesday_open_thread_hi_everybody_81',
			// Do we need encodeURIComponent here?
			'ifrs'			: encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css),
			'to_redirect'	: encodeURIComponent(window.location),
			'cbp'			: disqus_callback_params,
			'ff'			: Dsq.Thread.ff,
			'fc'			: Dsq.Thread.fc,
			'ac'			: Dsq.Thread.ac,
			'default_text'	: disqus_default_text
		};

		base_url += '?' + (new Date()).getTime();
		// Add params to default_params.
		if(params) {
			for(var key in params) {
				if(params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					default_params[key] = encodeURIComponent(params[key]);
				}
			}
		}
		// Build querystring.
		for(var key in default_params) {
			if(default_params[key] && default_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				base_url += '&' + key + '=' + default_params[key];
			}
		}

		return [
			'<iframe marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" hspace="0" vspace="0" frameborder="0"',
			(' allowtransparency="true" src="' + base_url + '"'),
			this._makeAttributes(attributes),
			'</iframe>'].join('');
	};

	this.frameLogin = function(opt_attributes) {
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/login.html';
		var attributes = opt_attributes || {};
		attributes['class'] = 'dsq-post-login';

		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameReply = function(post_id, extra_params, attributes) {
		// Returns the HTML for a reply iframe. Called by Dsq.Iframes.setReplyIframeToContainer
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = Dsq.Urls.REPLY;
		var params = {
			'def_email'		: disqus_def_email,
			'def_name'		: disqus_def_name
		};
		if(extra_params) {
			for(var key in extra_params) {
				if(extra_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					params[key] = extra_params[key];
				}
			}
		}
		if(_meta) {
			params['parent_post'] = post_id;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined') {
			params['per_page'] = disqus_per_page;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			attributes['class'] += '-authenticated';
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameEdit = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/edit.html';
		var params = {
			'p' : post_id
		};
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, {'class': 'dsq-post-edit', 'name': 'dsq-edit_' + post_id + '-frame'});
	};

	//
	// Menus
	//

	this.menuMore = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: "Remove post" button should hide menu.
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#comment-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.permalink(' + post_id + ')">Link</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Profile</a></li>'
	+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator
		? '	<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>' + (_meta.email ? '<li class="dsq-admin-email">' + _meta.email + '</li>' : '')
		+ '	<li class="dsq-admin-ip">' + _meta.ip + '</li> \
			<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>'
		+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.moderator_can_edit
			? ' <li class="dsq-admin-edit"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit Comment</a></li>'
			: '')
		+ ' <li class="dsq-remove"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.removePost(' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Remove Comment</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-report-spam"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.reportSpam(' + post_id + '); return false;">Mark Spam</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-block-user"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.blacklist(' + post_id + '); return false">Block User</a></li>'
		: '');
	};

	this.menuMedia = function(post_id) {
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(this, ' + post_id + ', \'seesmic\'); return false;">Record video</a></li> \
		';
	};

	this.dropProfile = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};


		var menu = '<li class="dsq-drop-showlnk"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Expand &#8663;</a></li>';
		var pointsMessage = '';
		if (userData['registered']) {
			pointsMessage = 'with ' + userData['points'] + ' points (more points are better).';
		}

		if (userData['is_remote']) {
			var domain = userData['remote_domain_name'];
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' is a ' + domain + ' user ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
			menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-' + domain.toLowerCase() + '">' + domain + '</span></li>';
		} else if (userData['registered']) {
			if (userData['verified']) {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a verified commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span></li>';
			} else {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a registered, but unverified, commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span></li>';
			}
		} else {
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has not claimed this commenter profile." onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()"><span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span></li>';
		}

		menu += _includeServices();
		return menu;
	};

	//
	// Popups
	//

	this._popupGeneric = function(content) {
		return ' \
		<div class="dsq-popup-content"> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-top"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-body" class="clearfix"> \
				<div class="dsq-popup-body-padding"> \
					<div class="dsq-popup-header"> \
						<a class="dsq-close-link" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/modal-close.png" alt="" /></a>'
						+ content['header']
					+ '</div>'
					+ content['body']
					+ '<div class="powered-by"><a href="http://disqus.com/comments/">Powered by <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-logo.png" alt="Disqus Comments" style="margin-bottom:-5px" /></a></div> \
				</div> <!-- padding --> \
			</div> <!-- body --> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-bottom"></div> \
		</div> \
		';
	};

	this.popupProfile = function(user_key) {
		var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(user_key, null);
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var html = '';
			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == 0
					? '<h4>Connections</h4><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li> \
					<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" title="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" /> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>'
				+ (i+1 == userServices.length ? '</ul>' : '');
			}
			return html;
		};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<table> \
				<tr> \
					<td> \
						<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><img class="dsq-popup-profile-avatar" src="' + userData['avatar'] + '" alt="" /></a> \
					</td> \
					<td> \
						<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user"> \
							<h3>' + userData['display_name'] + '</h3> \
							<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats" id="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + user_key + '">Loading...</div> \
						</div> \
					</td> \
				</tr> \
			</table> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-state"> \
				This is a&nbsp;<span class="'
					+ (userData['registered']
						? (userData['verified']
							? ' dsq-badge-verified'
							: (userData['is_remote']
								? ' dsq-badge-' + userData['remote_domain_name'].toLowerCase()
								: ' dsq-badge-registered')
							)
							: ' dsq-badge-guest') + '">'
			+ (userData['registered']
				? (userData['verified']
					? 'Verified'
					: (userData['is_remote']
						 ? userData['remote_domain_name']
						 : 'Registered')
					)
				: 'Guest')
			+ '</span>&nbsp;commenter profile.'
			+ '&nbsp;<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><strong>View more comments </strong></a>'
			+ (!userData['points']
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice">If this is you, <a href="http://disqus.com/profile" target="_blank">claim it now</a> to manage your comments.</p>'
				: '')
			+ ((userData['registered'] && !userData['verified'] && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username == userData['username'])) && !userData['is_remote'])
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice"><strong>Alert</strong>: You have not verified this account. <a href="http://disqus.com/verify">Verify it now.</a></p>'
				: '')
			+ '</div> \
			<div id="dsq-profile-status-' + user_key + '" class="dsq-popup-profile-status" style="display:none"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-snapshot"> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td> \
							<div id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Most active sites</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
						<td>'
							+ _includeServices()
							+ '<div id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Moderator of</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div> \
			';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupReblog = function() {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<cite><span>Reblog this comment</span></cite> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div id="dsq-reblog-form" class="dsq-reblog-form"> \
			</div> \
		';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupModal = function(title, message) {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<h3>' + title + '</h3> \
		';

		bodyHtml = message;

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.alertContent = function(name, post_id) {
		var alert = {
			'post_not_approved': {
				'title': 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator',
				'message': 'Thanks for posting. Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.'
			},
			'post_has_profile': {
				'title': 'Use your existing commenter profile',
				'message': 'You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> commenter profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a>'
			}
		};
		return alert[name] || false;
	};

	//
	// Actions
	//

	this.voted = function(post_id, points, vote) {
		// Update number of points
		Dsq.$('dsq-points-' + post_id).innerHTML = points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.';

		// Update link text
		if(vote) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id).innerHTML = 'You liked this.';
		}
	};

	this.subscribed = function(status) {
		var title, message;

		if(status) {
			title = 'Subscribed!';
			message = 'You have subscribed to this comment thread. New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox, where you may read and respond by email.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(0); return false">Unsubscribe</a> \
			';
		} else {
			title = 'Unsubscribed';
			message = 'You have unsubscribed to this comment thread. New comments will no longer be sent to your email inbox.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a> \
			';
		}

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);

	};
	
	this.highlighted = function() {
		Dsq.Popup.popModal('This comment has been highlighted.', 'Highlighted comment');
	};

	//
	// Media
	//

	this.mediaSeesmic = function(id, thumb) {
		return ' \
			<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_preview" class="dsq-seesmic-preview"><a href="http://www.seesmic.com/video/' + id + '" target="_blank" class="see_link">&nbsp;</a> \
				<div style="display:block;width:160px; height:120px; border:none; background-image:url(http://t.seesmic.com/thumbnail/' + thumb + ')"> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_hide" class="seePlayOverlay" style="display:none;"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',false)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/stopOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_show" class="seePlayOverlay"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',true)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/playOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; border:none; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
				</div> \
			</div> \
			<div id="' + id + '_content" style="display:block; width:100%; padding-top:5px"></div> \
		';
	};

	//
	// Callbacks
	//

	this.postComment_onSuccess = function(parent_post_id) {
		// Increment post count
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');
		
		if (num_posts) { 
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) { 
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
	};
};
// Dsq.Templates


/**
 * Dsq.Post
 */
Dsq.Post = new function() {
	this.openedMenu = {};
	this.menuEventListener = null;
	this.stateReplyToggled = {};
	this.stateEditToggled = {};
	this.stateRecordLink = {};

	/**
	 * Inserts a new post into the document.
	 *
	 * @param after_id {Number}	Insert a post before specified id.  If after_id
	 *							evaluates to false, then post in the front.  If
	 *							after_id is -1, post at the end.
	 */
	this.insert = function(after_id, id, message, author) {
		// Skeleton template from thread_posts.html.
		var skeleton = ' \
			<li id="dsq-comment-%(id)s"> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-header-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-header"> \
					<cite id="dsq-cite-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-cite"> \
						<a id="dsq-author-user-%(id)s" href="%(author_url)s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">%(author_name)s</a> \
					</cite> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-body-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-body"> \
					<div id="dsq-comment-message-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-message">%(message)s</div> \
				</div> \
			</li> \
		';
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var _user_meta = Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key];
		var markup = Dsq.Utils.interpolate(skeleton, {
			id: id,
			message: message,
			author_url: _user_meta.blog,
			author_name: _user_meta.display_name
		});
		var div = document.createElement('div');
		markup = markup.replace(Dsq.COMMENTS_RE, Dsq.CommentsHandler);
		div.innerHTML = markup;

		if (after_id === -1) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').appendChild(div);
		} else if (!after_id) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').insertBefore(div, Dsq.$('dsq-comments').firstChild);
		} else if (Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + after_id)) {
			// Get next node after "after_id", so we can insert before it.
			// If "after_id" is the last comment, the target node is the
			// last node.
			
			// var append_post_id = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(after_id).replace('<div id="','').replace('"></div>', '');
			var append_post_id = 'dsq-append-post-' + after_id;
			var node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			while (node = node.nextSibling) {
				if (!node || node.nodeType == 1) { // 1 == Node.ELEMENT_NODE
					break;
				}
			}
			if (!node) {
				node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			}
			node.parentNode.insertBefore(div, node);
		}
	};

	this.incrementPostCount = function() {
		
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');

		if (num_posts) {
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) {
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
	}
	
	this.outlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className += ' dsq-comment-outline';
		setTimeout("(function () { Dsq.Post.clearOutlineComment(" + post_id + ") })()", 3000);
	};
	
	this.clearOutlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className.replace('dsq-comment-outline', '');
	};

	this.showMenu = function(el, id, name) {
		var anchorPos = Dsq.Utils.findPos(el);
		var menu = document.createElement('ul');

		if(this.openedMenu) {
			if(this.openedMenu.linkClicked) {
				this.openedMenu.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		switch(name) {
			case 'more':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMore(id);
				break;
			case 'media':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMedia(id);
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}

		// Add menu to document body
		menu.id = 'dsq-menu-' + id;
		menu.className = 'dsq-menu';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(menu);

		// Position and show
		anchorPos[1] += 15;
		menu.style.left = anchorPos[0] + 'px';
		menu.style.top = anchorPos[1] + 'px';
		menu.style.display = 'block';

		// Set global reference
		this.openedMenu = {
			'el' : menu,
			'id' : id,
			'name' : name,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};

		// Set listener
		this.menuEventListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._hideMenu);
	};

	this._hideMenu = function(e) {
		var el = e.target || e.srcElement;
		var openedMenu = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el;
		var id = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.id;

		if(!id) {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link';
		} else {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link-' + id;
		}

		if(!openedMenu) {
			return;
		}

		if(!Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, openedMenu.id)) {
			openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
			Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Post.menuEventListener);
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(openedMenu);

		} else {
			// Hide the menu if a link was clicked inside the menu.  We can't
			// completely remove the menu until the onclick event on the link
			// fires, but the menuEventListener will prevent multiple menus
			// from polluting the DOM.
			if(el && typeof el.href != 'undefined') {
				openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el = null;
			}
		}

		if(Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Post.openedMenu.linkClicked = true;
		}
	};


	this.getUserServices = function(user_key, id) {
		if(!user_key && id) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
			user_key = _meta.user_key;
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var userServices = [];

		// Keep a full list of supported services. This is the order they will display in the drop-profile.
		// Each service must have a corresponding case in _buildServiceUrl()
		var supportedServices = ['blog', 'twitter', 'facebook', 'tumblr'];

		function _buildServiceUrl(serviceName) {
			var data = userData[serviceName];
			var services = {
				blog:		function(d) { return d; },
				twitter:	function(d) { return d; },
				facebook:	function(d) { return d; },
				tumblr:		function(d) { return 'http://' + d + '.tumblr.com'; }
			};
			return services[serviceName](data);
		}

		for(var i = 0; i < supportedServices.length; i++) {
			if(userData[supportedServices[i]]) {
				var serviceUrl = _buildServiceUrl(supportedServices[i]);
				userServices.push({'name' : supportedServices[i], 'url' : serviceUrl});
			}
		}
		return userServices;
	}

	this.dropProfile = function(id) {
		var dp = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-profile-' + id);

		// IE6 needs JS to display/hide. All other browsers use CSS.
		if(dp) {
			if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) dp.style.display = (dp.style.display == 'inline') ? 'none' : 'inline';
			return false;
		} else {
			dp = document.createElement('ul');
		}

		dp.id = 'dsq-drop-profile-' + id;
		dp.className = 'dsq-drop-profile';

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) { dp.style.display = 'inline'; }

		var container = Dsq.$('dsq-header-avatar-' + id);
		dp.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.dropProfile(id);
		container.appendChild(dp);
	};

	this.dropProfileMore = function(el, id) {
		var hiddenItems = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-hidden-' + id);

		hiddenItems.style.display = 'inline';
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
	};

	this._updateReplyLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "reply / cancel" links based on state.
		var displayDict = {};

		if(id) {
			if(this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				el.innerHTML = 'Cancel';
				displayDict['media'] = 'inline';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'none';
			} else {
				el.innerHTML = 'Reply';
				displayDict['media'] = 'none';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'inline';
			}
		}

		for(var key in displayDict) {
			if(displayDict.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var	linkEl = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-el-' + id),
					spacer = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-spacer-' + id);

				if(linkEl) {
					linkEl.style.display = displayDict[key];
					if(spacer) spacer.style.display = displayDict[key];
				}
			}
		}
	};

	this._updateMediaLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "use media / cancel" links based on state.
		var appendId = (id) ? ('-' + id) : '';
		var link = Dsq.$('dsq-media-link' + appendId);

		if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			link.innerHTML = 'Cancel Media';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(link, id); return false; };
		} else {
			link.innerHTML = 'Use Media <small>&#9660;</small>';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.showMenu(link, id, 'media'); return false; };
		}
	};

	this.toggleReply = function(el, id) {
		// Create reply IFrame
		if (window.disqus_use_postmessage) {
			if (!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				// Create IFrame if it doesn't exist.
				if (!Dsq.frames['reply_' + id]) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-frame-' + id), id);
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].init();
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].setState(id, _meta.depth);
				}
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
			}
		} else {
			// DEPRECATED
			if(!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				// Reply toolbar
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id), id);
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Iframes.hideAllInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id));
				if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
					// HACK: Cancel media before canceling self.
					this.toggleMediaReply(Dsq.$('dsq-media-link-' + id), id);
				}
			}
		}

		this.stateReplyToggled[id] = !this.stateReplyToggled[id];
		this._updateReplyLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-reply-' + id); }

		Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED, {
			postId: id,
			opened: this.stateReplyToggled[id]
		});
	};

	this.toggleMediaReply = function(el, id, xtype) {
		id = id || 0;
		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(!this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id, {xtype:xtype}, 'dsq-post-video');
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id);
		}
		this.stateRecordLink[id] = !this.stateRecordLink[id];
		this._updateMediaLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};

	this.edit = function(el, id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.frameEdit(id);
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-comment-message-' + id); }
	};

    this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
			if(vote == 1) {
                Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + id).innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
            }

            Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/vote.js'
                + '?post_id='    + id
                + '&vote='        + vote);

		} else {
			Dsq.Popup.login(Dsq.Strings.TO_RATE_PLEASE_LOG_IN);
		}
    };

	this.report = function(id, confirmed) {
		if(confirmed) {
			Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/tuesday_open_thread_hi_everybody_81/post_report/', {'post_id': id});
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('Thank you. This comment has been flagged for moderator attention.', 'Successfully flagged');
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$('dsq-post-report-' + id));
		} else {
			var title = Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT;
			var message = Dsq.Strings.ARE_YOU_SURE_YOU_WOULD_LIKE_TO_REPORT_THIS_COMMENT_TO_A_MODERATOR + '? \
			<br /><br /> \
			<button onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true)"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.NO + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.NEVER_MIND + '</button>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<button onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + id + ', true);"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.YES + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT + '</button><br /><br />'
			+ Dsq.Strings.THIS_WILL_FLAG_COMMENTS_FOR_MODERATORS_TO_TAKE_ACTION + '. \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, id);
		}
	};



	this.showAlert = function(id, msg) {
		var msgEl = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id);
		var alert = '<div class="dsq-comment-alert">' + msg + '</div>';

		msgEl.innerHTML = alert + msgEl.innerHTML;
	};

};
// Dsq.Post


/**
 * Dsq.Thread
 */
Dsq.Thread = new function() {
	this.fc = null;
	this.ff = null;
	this.ac = null;

	
	this.adminIsOn = false;

	
	
	

	this.hlComment = null;
	this.hlCommentClass = null;

	this.getNextComment = function(el) {
		var start_id = el.id;
		while(el = el.nextSibling) {
			if(el.id && el.id.indexOf('dsq-comment-') != -1 && el.id != start_id) {
				return el;
			}
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.getActiveCommentId = function() {
		if (document.URL.indexOf('#comment-') >= 0) {
			var anchor = document.URL.slice(document.URL.indexOf('#') + 1);
			return anchor.replace('comment-', '');
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.highlightAnchor = function() {
		var i = this.getActiveCommentId();
		if (i == null) return false;
		var id = 'dsq-comment-' + i;
		var hash = window.location.hash;

		// Toggle the hash incase the comment isn't available when the page loads
		// for WebKit-based browsers.
		if (Dsq.Utils.webkit) {
			window.location.hash = '';
			window.location.hash = hash;
		}

		this.hlComment = Dsq.$(id);
		// Adding this conditional guard pending #289
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlCommentClass = this.hlComment.className;
		this.hlComment.className += ' dsq-hl-anchor';

		setTimeout("Dsq.Thread.highlightClear()", 3000);
	};

	this.highlightClear = function() {
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlComment.className = this.hlCommentClass;
	};

	this.login = function(toggle) {
		// toggle id is #dsq-reply-login-[id]
		var postId;
		if(toggle.id.indexOf('dsq-reply-login') != -1) {
			postId = toggle.id.slice(16);
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + postId);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(toggle) {
			if(toggle.className == 'dsq-login-active') {
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(container, postId);
				toggle.className = '';
			} else {
				Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
				toggle.className = 'dsq-login-active';
			}
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
		}

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};


	this.paginate = function(page, el_clicked, per_page) {
		// Use extra_params to pass any override parameters that we need to persist.
		var extra_params = '';

		// "Per page" can either be overriden by providing it as an argument
		// (per-call) or setting the disqus_per_page override variable (global).
		if(typeof per_page == 'undefined') {
			per_page = null;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined' && per_page === null) {
			per_page = disqus_per_page;
		}

		if(typeof disqus_sort != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&sort=' + disqus_sort;
		}
		if(per_page !== null) {
			extra_params += '&per_page=' + per_page;
		}

		Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML += '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
		
		if(el_clicked) {
			el_clicked.style.display = 'none';
		}
		
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'tuesday_open_thread_hi_everybody_81'
			+ '&p='		+ page
			+ extra_params);
	};

	this.sortBy = function(sort) {
		var disqus_script = document.createElement('script');
		var disqus_date = new Date();

		if (location.hash != '') {
			location.hash = '#disqus_thread';
		}

		if(typeof(disqus_url) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_url = disqus_href;
		}
		disqus_script.type = 'text/javascript';
		disqus_script.src = 'http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'tuesday_open_thread_hi_everybody_81'
			+ '&sort='	+ sort
			+ '&title='
			+ '&'		+ disqus_date.getTime();

		Dsq.$('dsq-comments').innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif">';
		Dsq.container.appendChild(disqus_script);
	};

	this.subscribe = function(status, email) {
		// `status` is an int -- 1 to subscribe, 0 to unsubscribe
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || email) {
			// If authenticated user OR anonymous email provided

			if(email) {
				Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
			}

			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/subscribe.js'
				+'?status=' 	+ status
				+ '&slug='		+ 'tuesday_open_thread_hi_everybody_81'
				+ '&email=' 	+ encodeURIComponent(email));

		} else if(!email) {
			// If anonymous user and no email has been provided yet, prompt for email

			var title = 'Subscribe to this comment thread';
			var message = ' \
				New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox! \
				<div class="dsq-subscribe-submit"> \
					<p><strong>Enter your email address below.</strong></p> \
					<input type="text" id="dsq-subscribe-email"> \
					<button onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1, Dsq.$(\'dsq-subscribe-email\').value)">Subscribe</button> \
				</div> \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
		}
	};

	this.showSettings = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
			return;
		}

		/* The form has to be re-designed when more options will come out. */
		var html = 'Automatically close comments after <input size="3" id="dsq-thread-days-alive" value="' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.days_alive + '" type="text" /> days. Existing comments will still be displayed.<br /><br />(Using 0 days will disable this feature)<br /><br />'
								 + '<button onclick="Dsq.Thread.updateDaysAlive();" class="dsq-button-small"><span>Save</span></button>'
								 + '<span id="dsq-thread-settings-status" class="dsq-options-status"></span>';
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, 'Settings');
	};

	this.updateDaysAlive = function() {
		var days = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-days-alive').value;
		var status = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-settings-status');
		Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/update_days_alive.js', {days:days,thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
		status.innerHTML = 'Saved!';
		window.setTimeout(function() { status.innerHTML = ''; }, 1000);
	};
};
// Dsq.Thread

Dsq.Events = function() {
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var handlers = {};
	var getHandlers = function(event) {
		if (handlers[event] === undefined) {
			handlers[event] = [];
		}
		return handlers[event];
	};

	// Public
	// Value keys : postId, node, xtype
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_CREATED = 1;
	// Value keys : postId, opened
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED = 2;
	obj.fire = function(event, opt_value) {
		if (!event) {
			throw new Error('Unknown event');
		}
		var value = opt_value || {};
		for (var i=0; i<getHandlers(event).length; i++) {
			getHandlers(event)[i](value);
		}
	};
	obj.addHandler = function(event, callback) {
		getHandlers(event).push(callback);
	};

	return obj;
}();

/**
 * Dsq.Realtime
 */
Dsq.Realtime = new function() {
	var initialized = false;
	var interval = null;
	var last_checked = Dsq.jsonData.request.timestamp;
	var new_posts = [];
	var ongoing_request = false;
	var prev_script = null;

	function updateNewPostCount() {
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-alert').style.display = new_posts.length ? 'block' : 'none';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-queued').innerHTML = new_posts.length
		+ ' new '
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, 'comment', 'comments')
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, ' was', ' were')
		+ ' just posted.';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.SHOW + ')';
	}

	function insertNewPosts() {
		var post_id = null;
		var after_id = Dsq.$('dsq-sort-select').value === 'oldest' ? -1 : null;

		for (var i=0; i<new_posts.length; i++) {
			post_id = new_posts[i];
			Dsq.Post.insert(after_id, post_id, Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id].message);
			Dsq.Post.incrementPostCount();
			Dsq.Post.outlineComment(post_id);
		}
		new_posts = [];
	}

	this.enableInterval = function() {
		interval = setInterval(Dsq.Realtime.check, Dsq.jsonData.context.realtime_speed);
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.ENABLED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.PAUSE + ')';
	}

	this.disableInterval = function() {
		if (interval) {
			clearInterval(interval);
			interval = null;
		}
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.PAUSED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.RESUME + ')';
	}

	this.toggleInterval = function() {
		if (!interval) {
			Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
		} else {
			Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
		}
		return false;
	}

	this.initialize = function() {
		if (!initialized) {
			initialized = true;
			Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').onclick = this.toggleInterval;
			if (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').onclick = this.show;
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
			if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.realtime_paused) {
				Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
			} else {
				Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
			}
		}
	}

	this.show = function() {
		insertNewPosts();
		updateNewPostCount();
		return false;
	}

	this.check = function() {
		if (!ongoing_request && Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			if (prev_script) {
				prev_script.parentNode.removeChild(prev_script);
			}
			ongoing_request = true;
			prev_script = Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/3964679/realtime.js?timestamp=' + last_checked);
		}
	};

	this.update = function(timestamp, posts, users) {
		ongoing_request = false;
		last_checked = timestamp;

		if (users) {
			for (var user_id in users) {
				if (users.hasOwnProperty(user_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id] = users[user_id];
					}
				}
			}
		}

		if (posts) {
			for (var post_id in posts) {
				if (posts.hasOwnProperty(post_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] = posts[post_id];
						new_posts.push(post_id);
					}
				}
			}

			if (Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				insertNewPosts();
			} else {
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
		}
	};

}();

// DEPRECATED
Dsq.Iframes = function() {
	// Different style of object from the above. Hoping to switch to this for some reason.
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var showIframeInContainer = function(container, id, markup) {
		// Look through container for iframes, hiding them, except show one that matches id
		// If none of them matched id, create a new iframe using markup and insert it.
		// Returns the iframe node if and only if it was newly created.
		var found = false;
		for (var i=0; i<container.childNodes.length; i++) {
			var child = container.childNodes[i];
			if (child.nodeName == 'IFRAME') {
				if (child.id == id) {
					child.style.display = 'block';
					found = true;
				} else {
					child.style.display = 'none';
				}
			}
		}
		if (found) {
			return;
		}
		// The iframe wasn't found, so construct it and add it to the container.
		// Don't use innerHTML because it might reload iframes
		var div = document.createElement('div');
		div.innerHTML = markup;
		var iframe = div.childNodes[0];
		div.removeChild(iframe);
		container.appendChild(iframe);
		return iframe;
	};

	// Public
	obj.makeReplyIframeId = function(opt_postId, opt_xtype) {
		var id = 'dsq-post-add-iframe';
		if (opt_xtype) {
			id += '-' + opt_xtype;
		}
		if (opt_postId) {
			id += '-' + opt_postId;
		}
		return id;
	};
	obj.makeLoginIframeId = function(opt_postId) {
		if (!opt_postId) {
			return 'dsq-login-iframe';
		}
		return 'dsq-login-iframe-' + opt_postId;
	};
	obj.makeReplyIframeName = function(opt_postId, opt_xtype) {
		var name = 'dsq-reply-frame';
		if (opt_xtype) {
			name += '-' + opt_xtype;
		}
		if (opt_postId) {
			name += '-' + opt_postId;
		}
		return name;
	};
	obj.showReplyIframeInContainer = function(container, opt_postId, opt_extraParams, opt_className) {
		// Construct the id so we can check if it's already present.
		// Hide any other iframes we find, and show this one if it's found.
		var params = opt_extraParams || {};
		// use xtype in the id and name so we can distinguish media replies from text replies:
		var id = Dsq.Iframes.makeReplyIframeId(opt_postId, params.xtype);
		var name = Dsq.Iframes.makeReplyIframeName(opt_postId, params.xtype);
		var attributes = {
			'id': id,
			'name': name,
			'class': opt_className || 'dsq-post-reply'
			};
		var markup = Dsq.Templates.frameReply(opt_postId, opt_extraParams, attributes);
		var iframe = showIframeInContainer(container, id, markup);
		// It was newly created
		if (iframe) {
			Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_CREATED, {
				postId: opt_postId,
				node: iframe,
				xtype: params.xtype
			});
		}
	};
	obj.showLoginIframeInContainer = function(container, opt_postId) {
		var id = Dsq.Iframes.makeLoginIframeId(opt_postId);
		var markup = Dsq.Templates.frameLogin({id: id});
		showIframeInContainer(container, id, markup);
	};
	obj.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed = function(container, opt_postId) {
		if (Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {
			obj.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, opt_postId);
		} else {
			obj.hideAllInContainer(container);
		}
	};
	obj.hideAllInContainer = function(container) {
		for (var i=0; i<container.childNodes.length; i++) {
			var child = container.childNodes[i];
			if (child.nodeName == 'IFRAME') {
				child.style.display = 'none';
			}
		}
	};

	return obj;
}();

Dsq.Twitter = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.startTwitterConnect = function() {
		var popupParams = 'location=0,status=0,width=800,height=400';
		that._twitterWindow = window.open(Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/_ax/twitter/begin/', 'twitterWindow', popupParams);
		that._twitterInterval = window.setInterval(that.completeTwitterConnect, 1000);
	};

	this.completeTwitterConnect = function() {
		if (that._twitterWindow.closed) {
			window.clearInterval(that._twitterInterval);
			window.location.reload();
		}
	};
};

Dsq.Yahoo = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.startYahooConnect = function() {
		var popupParams = 'location=0,status=0,width=800,height=400';
		that._yahooWindow = window.open(Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/_ax/yahoo/begin/', 'yahooWindow', popupParams);
		that._yahooInterval = window.setInterval(that.completeYahooConnect, 1000);
	};

	this.completeYahooConnect = function() {
		if (that._yahooWindow.closed) {
			window.clearInterval(that._yahooInterval);
			window.location.reload();
		}
	};
};

Dsq.OpenID = new function() {
	var that = this;

	this.requestURL = function() {
		var message = '<table class="dsq-openid-form"><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;" rowspan="2"><img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.media_url + '/images/openid-icon-100x100.png" /></td>';
		message += '<td><label for="dsq-openid-url">OpenID URL:</label></td><td><input type="text" id="dsq-openid-url" /></td></tr>';
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1966967">rikyrah</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966967" class="dsq-comment-message">Sydney Pollack, Film Director, Is Dead at 73 <br></br><br> </br><br></br><br>By MICHAEL CIEPLY</br><br></br><br>Published: May 27, 2008</br><br></br><br>LOS ANGELES — Sydney Pollack, a Hollywood mainstay as director, producer and sometime actor whose star-laden movies like “The Way We Were,” “Tootsie” and “Out of Africa” were among the most successful of the 1970s and ’80s, died Monday at home here. He was 73. </br><br>The cause was cancer, said the publicist Leslee Dart, who spoke for his family. </br><br></br><br>Mr. Pollack’s career defined an era in which big stars (Robert Redford, Barbra Streisand, Warren Beatty) and the filmmakers who knew how to wrangle them (Barry Levinson, Mike Nichols) retooled the Hollywood system. Savvy operators, they played studio against studio, staking their fortunes on pictures that served commerce without wholly abandoning art.</br><br></br><br>Hollywood honored Mr. Pollack in return. His movies received multiple Academy Award nominations, and as a director he won an Oscar for his work on the 1985 film “Out of Africa” as well as nominations for directing “They Shoot Horses, Don’t They?” (1969) and “Tootsie” (1982). </br><br></br><br>“Michael Clayton,” of which Mr. Pollack was a producer and a member of the cast, was nominated for a best picture Oscar earlier this year. He delivered a trademark performance as an old-bull lawyer who demands dark deeds from a subordinate, played by George Clooney. (“This is news? This case has reeked from Day 1!” snaps Mr. Pollack’s Marty Bach.) Most recently, Mr. Pollack portrayed the father of Patrick Dempsey’s character in “Made of Honor.”</br><br></br><br>Mr. Pollack became a prolific producer of independent films in the latter part of his career. With a partner, the filmmaker Anthony Minghella, he ran Mirage Enterprises, a production company whose films included Mr. Minghella’s “Cold Mountain” and the documentary “Sketches of Frank Gehry,” released in 2006, the last film directed by Mr. Pollack.</br><br></br><br>Mr. Minghella died in March, at the age of 54, or complications from surgery for tonsil cancer.</br><br></br><br>Apart from the Gehry documentary, Mr. Pollack never directed a movie without stars. His first feature, “The Slender Thread,” released by Paramount Pictures in 1965, starred Sidney Poitier and Anne Bancroft. In his next 19 films — every one a romance or drama but for the single comedy, “Tootsie” — Mr. Pollack worked with Burt Lancaster, Natalie Wood, Jane Fonda, Robert Mitchum, Al Pacino, Dustin Hoffman, Meryl Streep, Tom Cruise, Harrison Ford, Nicole Kidman, Ms. Streisand and others. A frequent collaborator was Robert Redford. </br><br></br><br>“Sydney’s and my relationship both professionally and personally covers 40 years,” Mr. Redford said in an e-mailed statement. “It’s too personal to express in a sound bite.”</br><br></br><br>Sydney Irwin Pollack was born on July 1, 1934, in Lafayette, Ind., and reared in South Bend. By Mr. Pollack’s own account, in the book “World Film Directors,” his father, David, a pharmacist, and his mother, the former Rebecca Miller, were first-generation Russian-Americans who had met at Purdue University. </br><br></br><br>Mr. Pollack developed a love of drama at South Bend High School and, instead of going to college, went to New York and enrolled at the Neighborhood Playhouse School of the Theater. He studied there for two years under Sanford Meisner, who was in charge of its acting department, and remained for five more as Mr. Meisner’s assistant, teaching acting but also appearing onstage and in television. </br><br></br><br>Curly-haired and almost 6 feet 2 inches tall, Mr. Pollack had a notable role in a 1959 “Playhouse 90” telecast of “For Whom the Bell Tolls,” an adaptation of the Hemingway novel directed by John Frankenheimer. Earlier, Mr. Pollack had appeared on Broadway with Zero Mostel in “A Stone for Danny Fisher” and with Katharine Cornell in “The Dark Is Light Enough.” But he said later that he probably could not have built a career as a leading man.</br><br></br><br>Instead, Mr. Pollack took the advice of Burt Lancaster, whom he had met while working with Mr. Frankenheimer, and turned to directing. Mr. Lancaster steered him to the entertainment mogul Lew Wasserman, and through him Mr. Pollack landed a directing assignment on the television series “Shotgun Slade.” </br><br></br><br>After a faltering start, he hit his stride on episodes of “Ben Casey,” “Naked City,” “The Fugitive” and other shows. In 1966 he won an Emmy for directing an episode of “Bob Hope Presents the Chrysler Theater.”</br><br></br><br>From the time he made his first full-length feature, “The Slender Thread,” about a social work student coaxing a woman out of suicide on a help line, Mr. Pollack had a hit-and-miss relationship with the critics. Writing in The New York Times, A. H. Weiler deplored that film’s “sudsy waves of bathos.” Mr. Pollack himself later pronounced it “dreadful.” </br><br></br><br>But from the beginning of his movie career, he was also perceived as belonging to a generation whose work broke with the immediate past. In 1965, Charles Champlin, writing in The Los Angeles Times, compared Mr. Pollack to the director Elliot Silverstein, whose western spoof, “Cat Ballou,” had been released earlier that year, and Stuart Rosenberg, soon to be famous for “Cool Hand Luke” (1967). Mr. Champlin cited all three as artists who had used television rather than B movies to learn their craft.</br><br></br><br>Self-critical and never quite at ease with Hollywood, Mr. Pollack voiced a constant yearning for creative prerogatives more common on the stage. Yet he dived into the fray. In 1970, “They Shoot Horses, Don’t They?,” his bleak fable of love and death among marathon dancers in the Great Depression, based on a Horace McCoy novel, received nine Oscar nominations, including the one for directing. (Gig Young won the best supporting actor award for his performance.) </br><br></br><br>Two years later, Mr. Pollack made the mountain-man saga “Jeremiah Johnson,” one of three closely spaced pictures in which he directed Mr. Redford.</br><br></br><br>The second of those, “The Way We Were,” about ill-fated lovers who meet up later in life, also starred Ms. Streisand and was a huge hit despite critical hostility.</br><br></br><br>The next, “Three Days of the Condor,” another hit, about a bookish C.I.A. worker thrust into a mystery, did somewhat better with the critics. “Tense and involving,” said Roger Ebert in The Chicago Sun-Times.</br><br></br><br>With “Absence of Malice” in 1981, Mr. Pollack entered the realm of public debate. The film’s story of a newspaper reporter (Sally Field) who is fed a false story by federal officials trying to squeeze information from a businessman (Paul Newman) was widely viewed as a corrective to the adulation of investigative reporters that followed Alan J. Pakula’s hit movie “All the President’s Men,” with its portrayal of the Watergate scandal.</br><br></br><br>But only with “Tootsie,” in 1982, did Mr. Pollack become a fully realized Hollywood player. By then he was represented by Michael S. Ovitz and the rapidly expanding Creative Artists Agency. So was his leading man, Dustin Hoffman. </br><br></br><br>As the film — a comedy about a struggling actor who disguises himself as a woman to get a coveted television part — was being shot for Columbia Pictures, Mr. Pollack and Mr. Hoffman became embroiled in a semi-public feud, with Mr. Ovitz running shuttle diplomacy between them.</br><br></br><br>Mr. Hoffman, who had initiated the project, argued for a more broadly comic approach. But Mr. Pollack — who played Mr. Hoffman’s agent in the film — was drawn to the seemingly doomed romance between the cross-dressing Hoffman character and the actress played by Jessica Lange. </br><br></br><br>If Mr. Pollack did not prevail on all points, he tipped the film in his own direction. Meanwhile, the movie came in behind schedule, over budget and surrounded by bad buzz.</br><br></br><br>Yet “Tootsie” was also a winner. It took in more than $177 million domestically and received 10 Oscar nominations, including for best picture. (Ms. Lange took home the film’s only Oscar, for best supporting actress.)</br><br></br><br>Backed by Mr. Ovitz, Mr. Pollack expanded his reach in the wake of success. Over the next several years, he worked closely with both TriStar Pictures, where he was creative consultant, and Universal, where Mirage, his production company, set up shop in 1986. </br><br></br><br>Mr. Pollack reached perhaps his pinnacle with “Out of Africa.” The film, based on the memoirs of Isak Dinesen, paired Ms. Streep and Mr. Redford in a drama that reworked one of the director’s favorite themes, that of star-crossed lovers. It captured Oscars for best picture and best director.</br><br></br><br>Still, Mr. Pollack remained uneasy about his cinematic skills. “I was never what I would call a great shooter or visual stylist,” he told an interviewer for American Cinematographer last year. And he developed a reputation for caution when it came to directing assignments. Time after time, he expressed interest in directing projects, only to back away. At one point he was to make “Rain Man,” a Dustin Hoffman picture ultimately directed by Mr. Levinson; at another, an adaptation of “The Night Manager” by John le Carré.</br><br></br><br>That wariness was undoubtedly fed by his experience with “Havana,” a 1990 film that was to be his last with Mr. Redford. It seemed to please no one, though Mr. Pollack defended it. “To tell you the truth, if I knew what was wrong, I’d have fixed it,” Mr. Pollack told The Los Angeles Times in 1993.</br><br></br><br>“The Firm,” with Tom Cruise, was a hit that year. But “Sabrina” (1995) and “Random Hearts” (1999), both with Harrison Ford, and “The Interpreter” (2005), with Nicole Kidman and Sean Penn, fell short, as Hollywood and its primary audience increasingly eschewed stars for fantasy and special effects.</br><br></br><br>Mr. Pollack never stopped acting; in a recent episode of “Entourage,” the HBO series about Hollywood, he played himself. </br><br></br><br>Among Mr. Pollack’s survivors are two daughters, Rebecca Pollack and Rachel Pollack, and his wife, Claire Griswold. The couple married in 1958, while Mr. Pollack was serving a two-year hitch in the Army. Their only son, Steven, died at age 34 in a 1993 plane crash in Santa Monica, Calif.</br><br></br><br>In his later years, Mr. Pollack appeared to relish his role as elder statesman. At various times he was executive director of the Actors Studio West, chairman of American Cinematheque and an advocate for artists’ rights.</br><br></br><br>He increasingly sounded wistful notes about the disappearance of the Hollywood he knew in his prime. “The middle ground is now gone,” Mr. Pollack said in the fall 1998 issue of New Perspectives Quarterly. He added, with a nod to a fellow filmmaker: “It is not impossible to make mainstream films which are really good. Costa-Gavras once said that accidents can happen.”</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966968" class="dsq-comment-message"><a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/obamas_patriot_campagin.html" rel="nofollow">Obama\'s Patriot Campaign</a></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1966969">rikyrah</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966969" class="dsq-comment-message"><a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10640.html" rel="nofollow">Obama looks westward in electoral map play</a></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1966970">rikyrah</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966970" class="dsq-comment-message"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/27/opinion/27brooks.html?_r=1&amp;ref=opinion&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">The Running Mate Choice</a></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1966971">B-Serious</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966971" class="dsq-comment-message">The best response I\'ve seen to Hillary\'s RFK statements. . . <br></br><br><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-bromwich/assassination-chatter-and_b_103619.html" rel="nofollow">A-Word Chatter and the End of Legitimacy</a></br><br></br><br><b>David Bromwich:</b>(emphasis added)</br><br><i>"When a democratic society fails to honor the contract by which we elect our leaders in peace, and let them govern in peace, and show our approval or disapproval by keeping them or turning them out of office--<b>when the incantation "He is not one of us" dips so far below sanity that we pretend the rules and decencies aren\'t in force any more--</b>it is more than one person who is harmed. <b>This loose way of talking and thinking of violence hardens us against real responsibility if the violent thing should happen.</b> We are administering shocks to ourselves in advance so as not to be surprised by the actuality. <b>But such preparations are in their very nature corrupt, and corrupting.</b> And they are not less so when used against any person of dignity and estimation, on the public stage, than when they are leveled against an elected official."</i></br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966972" class="dsq-comment-message">Roland Martin\'s radio show this morning is hilarious.<br> </br><br>Topics du jour so far:</br><br></br><br>Hillpatine\'s RFK remarks</br><br>Olbermann\'s Special Comment</br><br>Bubba\'s Conspiracy remarks</br><br></br><br>Black folk can be hilarious when they want to be.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1966973">rikyrah</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966973" class="dsq-comment-message"><a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/05/why-krugman-i-1.html#more" rel="nofollow">Why Krugman is Wrong</a> <br></br><br>For me, Krugman would have to do mea culpas from now until the election for me to take him seriously, because his hackery on behalf of Hillpatine has been pathetic.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1966974">rikyrah</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966974" class="dsq-comment-message"><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/27/060/23911/392/523373" rel="nofollow">Busted: McCain Message Coordination w/ Anti-Obama 527</a><br></br><br></br><br></br><br><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/may/26/hillaryclinton.barackobama" rel="nofollow">Clinton has run her campaign the same way Bush has run the country</a></br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1966975">rikyrah</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966975" class="dsq-comment-message"><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/27/8945/62079/317/523456" rel="nofollow">Reggie Love: Obama\'s Personal Aide</a><br></br><br>He\'s Obama\'s \' Charlie\' (West Wing Reference)</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966976" class="dsq-comment-message">Rikyrah,<br>From our website:</br><br></br><br><i>"Established by combat veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan on November 11, 2007, Veterans Day, VFFPAC will endorse and offer extended support through financial contributions and media assistance to Republicans, Democrats, and Independents who support victory in the Global War on Terrorism. Bottom Line: <b>VFFPAC will support those who support victory</b> — that is our only litmus test.</i></br><br></br><br>Tell DKos to chill; it\'s not a smear campaign. The ad asks legimitate questions. </br><br></br><br>My contribution for the day, from the <i>Weekly Standard</i>:</br><br></br><br><a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/141tbojp.asp" rel="nofollow">Change That Matters: Iraq Has Changed; Why Can\'t the Democrats?</a></br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966977" class="dsq-comment-message">rikyrah,<br></br><br>I\'m listening to Roland as well.  He\'s droppin\' science!</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966978" class="dsq-comment-message">Poblano speaks:<br></br><br><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/27/0491/33233/381/523392" rel="nofollow">Adventures in Lannyland</a></br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966979" class="dsq-comment-message">From American Thinker:<br></br><br><a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/05/obama_words_that_matter.html" rel="nofollow"> Obama Words That Matter</a></br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1966980">KarmiCommunist</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966980" class="dsq-comment-message"><a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/27/the-young-gaffer-sees-dead-people/" rel="nofollow">The Young Gaffer sees dead people</a><br></br><br><a href="http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/05/020607.php" rel="nofollow">Memorial Day: A Contrast</a></br><br></br><br><i>On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the audience here today -- our sense of patriotism is particularly strong.</i></br><br></br><br>Obama is about as phony as it gets...</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966981" class="dsq-comment-message">Democrats have lost interest and understanding and examining the progress made in Iraq because they are so wedded to a narrative of defeat and a position of immediate withdrawal. <br></br><br>McCain went after Obama for failing to visit Iraq and rightly so. Obama  chooses to attack McCain with Webb\'s political gimmick and spend Memorial Day hailing our brave soldiers as victims.</br><br></br><br>The success of the surge is the most significant development this year, it should not be ignored. Obama has been selling “judgment” to the Democratic primary electorate. McCain now is asking Americans to assess Obama’s judgment in light of his refusal to examine key facts and adjust national security policy to maximize American interests.</br><br></br><br>Obama\'s feet have been cemented in the concrete of defeat, and he was put there by the virulent anti-war base of the party. Or did he step into it on his own?</br><br></br><br>Now, does Obama have the political courage and will to break from his party\'s entrenched anti-war position and begin to acknowledge the factual developments, both political and military, and prove to voters that \'hope\'(for victory and success), \'faith\' (in a winning strategy) has come from the right and \'change\' may be necessary from the left?</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966982" class="dsq-comment-message">From Ed Morrisey:<br></br><br>If Barack Obama accepted John McCain’s challenge to visit Iraq, what would he hear from General David Petraeus? His briefing would highlight improvements on every front, including greater political reconciliation and the recent strength shown by Nouri al-Maliki in Basra and Sadr City in establishing sovereignty throughout Iraq. Obama would also learn that violence has now dropped to a four-year low, thanks to the efforts over the past 12 months to establish order through the “surge”:</br><br></br><br>    The U.S. military said Sunday that the number of attacks by militants in the last week dropped to a level not seen in Iraq since March 2004.</br><br></br><br>    About 300 violent incidents were recorded in the seven-day period that ended Friday, down from a weekly high of nearly 1,600 in mid-June last year, according to a chart provided by the military.</br><br></br><br>    The announcement appeared aimed at allaying fears that an uprising by militiamen loyal to radical Shiite Muslim cleric Muqtada Sadr could unravel security gains since 28,500 additional American troops were deployed in Iraq in a buildup that reached its height in June.</br><br></br><br>    Navy Rear Adm. Patrick Driscoll, a military spokesman, credited the decrease to a series of operations launched by the Iraqi government in the last two months to extend control over parts of the country that have been under the sway of armed Sunni Arab and Shiite militants. They include crackdowns in the southern oil hub of Basra, the northern city of Mosul and Baghdad’s Sadr City district.</br><br></br><br>The irony of this is that the improvements could result in a significant drawdown of American forces regardless of the results of our election in November. The secret surge — the buildup of a professional Iraqi Army — will soon make American combat troops superfluous. Maliki tried to go it alone in Basra and wound up needing some logistical and air support for his operations, but Sadr City appears mostly to have succeeded in staying all-IA. The quiet resolution in Mosul has established order in the last bastion of AQI, and while a number of those terrorists appear to have hotfooted out of the area before Maliki’s arrival, over a thousand suspects remain in custody.</br><br></br><br>The question facing the next president will be the manner of withdrawal, not the fact of it. The Maliki government wants American support for the near- to mid-term in order to consolidate central-government sovereignty and keep Iran out of its hair. The Iraqi Army needs a little more time to develop its troops and especially its logistics, but they now perform well enough to conduct their own security operations with little involvement of American ground troops. An orderly transition to a support role, akin to Germany and South Korea, would bolster the Iraqi elected government and keep the US military in good position to run counterterrorist operations in the region, with the Iraqis as allies.</br><br></br><br>Maliki already knows this. Iraqis will not long abide American combat troops in Iraq past the necessity, and as we see in Sadr City, the emphasis on an all-Iraqi effort makes a great deal of difference. Getting Americans out of the front lines will benefit everyone, and Maliki’s proposal for a security agreement is based on that reality. He envisions a significant drawdown in 2009 as part of that agreement, and the Iraqi Army appears ready to assume the entire front-line role.</br><br></br><br>John McCain has made this point all along. His vision of counterinsurgency warfare saved Iraq from collapsing into a Somalia with oil when that result appeared inevitable at the end of 2006. With the violence dropping rapidly and Iraq stabilizing under a representative democracy, the US cannot afford to walk away entirely and give away the strategic positioning a partnership with Iraq would provide.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966983" class="dsq-comment-message">S,<br>Obama and Clinton prostrated themselves before the Soros/MoveOn crowd, and somehow, Obama emerged as their chosen one. </br><br></br><br>But he can\'t backtrack now, else he pisses them off. </br><br></br><br>Problem is, what happens when he gets into office and realizes that all his promises on getting out of the war (i.e. removing all combat brigades within his first year) will be damn near impossible for him to keep?</br><br></br><br>Maybe he should make <a href="http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/kanjorski-says-dems-were-insincere-about-ending-war-2008-05-23.html" rel="nofollow">Rep. Paul Kanjorski</a> his press spokesman, so he\'ll be able to say that Obama "sort of stretched the facts" like the dems did in 2006.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1966984">Angela</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966984" class="dsq-comment-message">from MSNBC\'s First Read<br></br><br>"Weekend delegate update: Obama 6-1 Posted: Monday, May 26, 2008 10:29 AM by Domenico Montanaro</br><br>Filed Under: 2008, Obama, Delegates </br><br>From NBC’s Domenico Montanaro</br><br>Obama picked up six delegates to Clinton’s one over the weekend. He got one from Alaska (former Gov. Tony Knowles 5/25), Wyoming (W. Patrick Goggles 5/24) and Georgia (Stephen Leeds) and three from Hawaii Brian Schatz -- new HI party chairman 5/25; Kari Luna -- new HI party vice chairwoman, and James Burns -- add on) after state conventions this weekend. Clinton also got one – add-on Verna Cleveland from Georgia. </br><br></br><br>The NBC NEWS Delegate Counts:</br><br>PLEDGED: Obama 1,647 to 1,502</br><br>SUPERDELEGATES: Obama 315.5 to 282.5</br><br>EDWARDS PL. DELEGATES: Obama 12 to 0</br><br>TOTAL: Obama 1,974.5 to 1,784.5</br><br></br><br>* Obama is 51.5 delegates away from the required 2,026, according the NBC NEWS counts.</br><br></br><br>(We are also checking to see if we will adjust Alaska’s count. NBC had a 9-4 split for Obama, but according to AP, Obama picked up both statewide PLEOs. That would give a 10-3 split there. We will update if adjusted.)"</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966985" class="dsq-comment-message">d,<br></br><br>McCain is on offense and going hard at Obama here. The McCain campaign thinks that Obama’s lack of immersion in Iraq makes him look inexperienced and weak, especially since Obama hasn’t visited Iraq for over two years, well before the surge reversed American fortunes.</br><br></br><br>I don\'t think Obama will be able to get to the White House without acknowledging the success of the surge. When forced to explain the particulars of his surrender plan (in light of our success) to general election voters, Obama will have a tough time.</br><br></br><br>The far-left will stand by him and give him political cover, knowing that they have him in their pocket.</br><br></br><br>The question will be, how effectively can he back pedal to gain credibility with the general election voters? Reuter reports that Obama is already doing this with regards to Iran:</br><br></br><br>"There\'s no reason why we would necessarily meet with Ahmadinejad before we know that he was actually in power. He\'s not the most powerful person in Iran," Obama told reporters while campaigning in New Mexico.</br><br></br><br>Will the voters buy it?</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1966986">inkognegro</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966986" class="dsq-comment-message">I would like to just say that I would be much more willing to have something approximating a substantive debate about Iraq policy if it wasn\'t based in loaded language and code words.  <br></br><br>Just as with arguing with Clinton supporters, when you start from a slanted position, my impression is that dealing with truth, objectivity and reality isn\'t really your strong suit.</br><br></br><br></br><br>But y\'all keep at it...Im sure it helps you sleep at night.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966987" class="dsq-comment-message">S,<br>Nope, they won\'t. Because if he acknowledges the success, then the question becomes "if we\'re winning-or it looks like we could win-why do you want to leave?"</br><br></br><br>I don\'t think Obama not going to Iraq makes him look weak/inexperienced, but it damn sure makes him look uninformed.</br><br></br><br>But, you know, if he doesn\'t want to go to Iraq, fine. At least talk to the commander on the ground without speechifying for seven-plus minutes (like he did when GEN Petraeus went to the Hill in \'07). And if he doesn\'t want to do that, then maybe VFF will have another Vets on the Hill event this year (granted, if they do, it will be before the elections-giving Obama an easy out).</br><br></br><br>McCain should keep pressing Obama on this issue, since the media doesn\'t seem to want to do it. It\'s a simple question: why do you want to be the first president to lose a war that we are winning?</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966988" class="dsq-comment-message">Whether violence is down or up does not matter.  It is time for the Iraqis to solve their problrm.  It is time ofr the US troops to come home.  The policy is wrong.  We can not occupy Iraq for the forseeable future.<br></br><br>Surge success is immaterial, just as previous successes or failure were.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966989" class="dsq-comment-message">nardwilly,<br></br><br>The surge success in immaterial only because it does not conform to the narrative of defeat and policy of immediate withdrawal?</br><br></br><br>Why should we leave when we are winning? </br><br></br><br>The policy of having a strong, stable Iraq as an ally in the mideast will help to contain and deter Iran and its terrorist proxies Hamas and Hezbollah, and Syria as well. Just as we remain in Germany and Japan after victory in WWII, we can maintain a presence in Iraq. It is in our national security interests to do so.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966990" class="dsq-comment-message">Nard,<br>Of course we can\'t "occupy" Iraq for the forseeable future. Nor do we want to. For that matter, nor has it ever been policy to do so.</br><br></br><br>Recall the now-failed Rumsfield Doctrine of getting in with as few troops as possible and then getting out. That\'s no way to run an occupation.</br><br></br><br>Iraqis are beginning to stand up to fix the problems in their country. Brigades of Iraqis calling themselves the "Sons of Iraq" are taking the lead on security in individual neighborhoods. Important legislation-such as that revising the de-Ba\'athification law and providing amnesty to those who were insurgents-has been passed or is being worked on. </br><br></br><br>Hell, the prime minister of Iraq went to Mosul to lead an attack on insurgents himself. Let\'s see Obama do that.</br><br></br><br>Inkognergo,</br><br>Actually, it doesn\'t. It\'s pretty sad to watch a country which I can countless others went to fight for-and which thousands have died for-show itself unwilling to pay the cost of freedom.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966991" class="dsq-comment-message">(that should be "I and countless others;" didn\'t feel like deleting again)</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966992" class="dsq-comment-message">inkognegro,<br></br><br>How convenient to dismiss those who disagree with you to be lacking in truthfulness, realism and objectivity.</br><br></br><br>It is much easier than formulating a credible rebuttal to the points raised.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966993" class="dsq-comment-message"><a href="http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/Speeches/e9c72a28-c05c-4928-ae29-51f54de08df3.htm" rel="nofollow">Remarks By John McCain on Nuclear Security</a></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966994" class="dsq-comment-message"><a href="http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/obama_campaign_banks_superdele.php" rel="nofollow">Obama has Superdelegates in the fold</a></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1966995">Ronnie B</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966995" class="dsq-comment-message">s & d<br></br><br>Can either of you explain what a "victory" in Iraq would be?</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966996" class="dsq-comment-message">Ronnie,<br>My opinion, and I\'m sure S will weigh in with his/hers:</br><br></br><br>A victory in Iraq will be achieved when the Iraqi government is strong and stable enough to provide for the common welfare of its citizens; when the Iraqi military is strong enough to provide protection for the nation, and when terrorist in Iraq are no longer able to claim that country as a front to launch attacks into our country or our allies.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966997" class="dsq-comment-message">ronnie b,<br></br><br>Victory in Iraq would be the successful establishment of a politically stable Iraq that can govern and defend itself against insurgent militias, outside terrorist groups and interference from hostile neighbors like Iran and Syria.</br><br></br><br>The victory achieved in Iraq through the strength and resolve of the American troops and Iraqi citizens will create another strong ally against state sponsors of terrorism and serve as a powerful deterrent to Syria and Iran, who seek to expand their influence and power in the region.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966998" class="dsq-comment-message">Seems to me Iraq was stable until Bu$h went in there under false pretenses and f*cked everything up.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1966999" class="dsq-comment-message">God help us all.<br></br><br>Iraq Soldier Discusses His "Kills" (VIDEO)</br><br></br><br>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/27/iraq-soldier-discusses-hi_n_103698.html</br><br></br><br>In the spring of 2007, a conference was held on the outskirts of Washington, DC. Entitled Winter Soldier: Iraq and Afghanistan, it hearkened back to the Winter Soldier testimonies held three decades ago during the Vietnam War. Of the testimonies we filmed, this one, by Iraq War vet Jon Michael Turner, was the most compelling and intense.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967000" class="dsq-comment-message">Val,<br>Brief history lesson, followed by some facts:</br><br></br><br>Most of the participants in the first "Winter Soldier" investigation have been proven to be liars, or their stories have proven unverifiable.</br><br></br><br>The new "Winter Soldiers"-also known as Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW) held their Winter Soldier conference in Silver Spring, MD. It was not open to the public (in fact, the police had the place surrounded, and had sharpshooters on the roof).</br><br></br><br>A couple weeks ago, IVAW took their info to the Congressional Progressive Caucus. This hearing was open to the public (and I attended), but no one was placed under oath to swear to the atrocities they described.</br><br></br><br>My point in painting this picture is to ask you to be careful about presenting information that no one has been allowed to verify, or that anyone is willing to swear to the truth of.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967001" class="dsq-comment-message">fyi<br></br><br>I just heard Stephanie Tubbs Jones tell Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC that there will be demonstrations in DC this week-end to make certain all the votes are counted.  That must be a reference the busload of Clinton supporters they are bringing in.  I hope Obama\'s people have a showing planned also.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967002" class="dsq-comment-message">anon,<br></br><br>"Stable" in the sense that it was controlled by a murderous tyrant who killed countless Iraqis, sponsored terrorism in the form of Palestinian suicide bombers in their mission to kill innocent Israelis. Saddan Hussein was openly hostile to the will of the international community; defying countless United Nations resolutions and running a corrupt oil-for-food scam that enriched his regime at the expense of his people. </br><br></br><br>Removing Saddam Hussein </br><br>from power and liberating Iraqis from the terror under which they lived was a bipartisan policy supported by Democrats and Republicans.</br><br></br><br>Was the war mismanaged after the toppling of Hussein? Yes.</br><br></br><br>Was Bush late in changing the strategy in Iraq? Yes.</br><br></br><br>Did Bush ultimately change strategy? Yes.</br><br></br><br>Is that strategy now working? Yes.</br><br></br><br>Is the \'surge\' counterinsurgency strategy now providing the security  necessary for political reconciliation and stability? Yes.</br><br></br><br>Is the training of Iraqi troops now allowing Iraqis to take the lead in defending the government from militias and terrorists? Yes.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967003">D.</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967003" class="dsq-comment-message">But will these facts ever be acknowledged by most liberals? No.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967004" class="dsq-comment-message">Hi D - How are you?  <br></br><br>I don\'t agree with you and am offended with you calling these soldiers liars. I choose to take these soldiers at their word because I see no benefit in them coming out to show what they did in Iraq, in fact, I can see them getting into deep crap because they are talking about it.  To me the reason they are coming out is because they have a conscience and they can\'t condone what they did and want the American public to be aware of what happens behind the scenes when the camera\'s are gone in Iraq.   </br><br></br><br>These guys wanted to make sure their story is visable to as much of America as possible because it is an important issue and one we should not overlook. </br><br></br><br></br><br>More stories are found here:http://newsproject.org/</br><br></br><br>Original Story:</br><br>Iraq Soldier Discusses His "Kills" (VIDEO)</br><br>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/27/iraq-soldier-discusses-hi_n_103698.html</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967005" class="dsq-comment-message">val,<br></br><br>Why is it that when faced with credible evidence that the \'surge\' is working, the huffpo and other anti-war sites find it necessary to resort to demonizing our troops?</br><br></br><br>Even if you believe these soldiers, how is this a rebuttal to the the assertion that the surge is working?</br><br></br><br>"We\'re the REAL bad guys" is not an argument, but an attack against the thousands of brave men and women who put their lives on the line for our freedom and the freedom of the Iraqi people.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967006" class="dsq-comment-message">More on the soldiers to include audio archive, blogs etc.:<br>http://ivaw.org/wintersoldier</br><br></br><br></br><br></br><br>Winter Soldier: Iraq and Afghanistan featured testimony from U.S. veterans who served in those occupations, giving an accurate account of what is really happening day in and day out, on the ground.</br><br></br><br>This four-day event brought together veterans from across the country to testify about their experiences in Iraq and Afghanistan - and present video and photographic evidence. In addition, panels of scholars, veterans, journalists, and other specialists gave context to the testimony. These panels covered everything from the history of the GI resistance movement to the fight for veterans\' health benefits and support.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967007" class="dsq-comment-message">I keep reading about Hillary supporters planning a huge rally in DC on 5/31 where they are having the Rules and Bylaws committee meeting where Clinton wants the rules changed in her favor.<br></br><br>Does anyone know of Obama supporters planning to show up?   Any DC people here????</br><br></br><br>Stephanie Tubbs Jones was just telling Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC that there will be demonstrations to count all the votes in DC this week-end and I found this at AmericanThinker.com.</br><br></br><br>“May 22, 2008 </br><br>Hillary supporters to demonstrate at DNC meeting</br><br>Thomas Lifson</br><br>"Count every vote" is a very familiar war cry among Democrats. That cry is set to be heard this Saturday in Washington, DC, when the Democratic National Committee Rules Committee meets at the Marriott Wardman Park Hotel in tony Northwest Washington.</br><br>Here is the message from the Hillaryresponders site:  </br><br></br><br>....the DNC Rules Committee is meeting that day to make a determination with respect to MI and FL and we think it is essential to convene in Washington to support our cherished democratic principles, help enfranchise MI and FL and to show that Hillary has equally high numbers of passionate, devoted supporters who believe fervently that she will be the better general candidate and best president.  </br><br></br><br>Our purpose is not to divide the party or attack the DNC or Senator Obama.  At the same time, Hillary\'s strong support cannot be dismissed in DNC efforts to unify the party. [bolding in original]</br><br></br><br>An interesting test for media bias: how much coverage will this demonstration receive?"</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967008" class="dsq-comment-message">Has anyone seen this <a href="http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/northfulton/stories/2008/05/21/obama_0522.html" rel="nofollow"><br>White Fright</br></a> story out of the Roswell (Georgia) Beacon?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967009" class="dsq-comment-message">Val,<br>Saddam\'s in his grave and bin Laden\'s on the run....it\'s a great day.</br><br></br><br>You may disagree, and that\'s fine. But my statement wasn\'t really a agree/disagree statement. In any instance, you can\'t make your case to the American public with sharpshooters preventing the entrance of "the American public."</br><br></br><br>I\'ve been pretty consistent in my opposition to IVAW\'s Winter Soldier. At the risk of tooting my own horn, I can send you all the interviews I\'ve done about that topic.</br><br></br><br>My position\'s been simple:  put the witnesses under oath (oddly enough, that\'s the same thing we do with people accused of a crime!), and allow them to be questioned. If these things happened, you won\'t hear a louder cry for punishment than from me. However, if they didn\'t happen-or no one can prove them-then there needs to be some accountability for that as well (little principle called perjury).</br><br></br><br>The best thing about that is that it doesn\'t require you to support the war. I\'m making an assumption that you believe in justice, right?</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967010" class="dsq-comment-message">McCain was heckled this morning during a speech at the University of Denver. After the first interruption, McCain noted that he routinely hold townhall meeting where citizens are able to discuss and debate their differences. <br></br><br>Why do anti-war protestors choose to try and shout down McCain rather than prepare a question which intelligently challenges McCain\'s position on the war?  Maybe it is because they can\'t outargue McCain.</br><br></br><br>After the second interruption, McCain simply laughed it off and then said with conviction, "I will never surrender in Iraq."</br><br></br><br>McCain\'s temper has yet to appear, nor his \'mean streak\'. The protesters looks foolish and ineffective.  Well done, Senator.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967011" class="dsq-comment-message">D - these men talk about kicking in doors at the homes of innocent families and killing and raping women and some children. They talk about killing the men riding on their bikes on their way home to families for sport because they were bored.  Shooting up the mosques because it is something to do and their leader awarding 4 day passes for anyone who kills someone/any Iraqi would do via a knife. <br></br><br>There is no benefit of the surge that would outweigh the killing of these innocent people just trying to make it through the day.  I am not buying that.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967012" class="dsq-comment-message">The Hillary demonstrations on 5/31 concern me......it reminds me too much of what Bush did in Florida.   They sent staff people to set the tone get things riled up against Gore.  If you all recall it wasn\'t a pretty sight.   This whole thing smacks of the Clintons continued bullying posturing.  Its divisive.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967013" class="dsq-comment-message">"The protesters looks foolish and ineffective. Well done, Senator".<br>----------------------------------</br><br>Whatever makes you happy!</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967014" class="dsq-comment-message">Val,<br>And you\'re willing to accept that as unverified fact?</br><br></br><br>God, I hope you\'re not a judge.</br><br></br><br>Note that I haven\'t once said that the members of IVAW who testified were lying. All I\'m saying is that they should be held to the same standard we hold people in our criminal justice system to.</br><br></br><br>Do you agree?</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967015" class="dsq-comment-message">S,<br>Most liberal protesters look foolish, and are ineffective. Unless their goal is to piss people off, in which case they\'re an overwhelming success.</br><br></br><br>But hey, at least they\'re consistent.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967016" class="dsq-comment-message">D - you said -- Most of the participants in the first "Winter Soldier" investigation have been proven to be liars<br></br><br>I disagreed with that statement. It is not one individual speaking out, or even two or ten.  There is a huge number of people stepping forward and I accept their stories as truth.  I don\'t need to hook them up to a lie detector and I do not need them to be put under oath.  These are military men and women who served their country.  It is not in their best interest to speak out against the war nor is it in their best interest to speak about the atrocities they have inflicted on innocent people.  </br><br></br><br>War isn\'t pretty.  I know that because my brother served in the Army for over 24 years.  He has seen his share of wars, has all kinds of medals and recd. accolades regarding his service.  He loved serving his country, the military was good to him but he did not sugarcoat his experiences.  I have other family members men/women who have also served in the military.  So, yes I believe these soldiers.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967017" class="dsq-comment-message">I see McWar\'s nastiness is coming out.  He says he\'ll NEVER "surrender" in Iraq.  It\'s only a matter of time before the mean-spirited bully reveals itself in full force on camera.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967018" class="dsq-comment-message">Val,<br>Yes, and when was the "first \'Winter Soldier\' conference" held? </br><br></br><br>If you actually read what I wrote, you\'d see that I wasn\'t referring to IVAW\'s "Winter Soldier" at all.</br><br></br><br>(and I hesitate to emote this strongly, but I feel it\'s warranted) If you are willing to accept anyone\'s world as fact, unverified-and, by default, be complicit in the blind slander of our military-then, at best, you\'re an idiot.</br><br></br><br>I could educate you on the rule in military justice that states that if you see a crime and don\'t report it, you\'re just as guilty as the criminal, but based on your response, I\'d be wasting my breath. Maybe your brother knows, and he can tell you.</br><br></br><br>It\'s people like you-who would accept anyone\'s word against the military as fact, without even seeing if it\'s true-that make me wonder what the hell I served for while I was in uniform.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967019" class="dsq-comment-message">Truthseeker<br></br><br>I know, I can\'t wait either.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967020" class="dsq-comment-message">truthseeker,<br></br><br>Did you watch the video? If you feel that is a credible rebuttal to the policy of the \'surge\'  or a convincing reason not to vote for McCain that is you right.</br><br></br><br>Will McCain\'s temper reveal itself before Obama\'s reveals himself to be an untried rookie and inexperienced lightweight?</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967021" class="dsq-comment-message">In yet another episode of Hypocrisy, Inc, Ms. Hillary Clinton <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/05/27/politics/horserace/entry4129369.shtml" rel="nofollow"> releases an ad on</a> -- of all things -- fiscal responsibility.<br></br><br><i>Clinton\'s South Dakota spot, "Responsibility," opens with a knock on President Bush.</i></br><br></br><br>"We are nine trillion dollar debt," Clinton says as the spot opens, after which an announcer adds: "George Bush\'s spending has sent the economy into a tailspin and put social security in jeopardy."</br><br></br><br>Clinton then states, "We borrow money from the Chinese to buy oil from the Saudis." The announcer follows with a promise that "Clinton will stop spending money America doesn\'t have. She\'ll end fifty five billion dollars in giveaways to corporate special interests, reduce the deficit and protect Social Security."</br><br></br><br>Clinton then vows to "get us back to fiscal responsibility."</br><br></br><br>That\'s right, Ms. Hillary, we all know that you can bring fiscal responsibility to this country seeing as how we all have been able to observe you never spending money your own campaign doesn\'t have. You are a fantastic manager as we have all been able to see! We have all observed your truly fantastic job of keeping your own actual campaign out of debt and staying centered in the real world where bills due need to be actually paid and you can\'t just lend money from your own pockets when you have a lack of funds.</br><br></br><br>This woman is a walking talking Saturday Night Live skit. Flat-out ridiculous. </br><br></br><br>Next Hypocrisy, Inc episode: Clinton campaign releases an ad about how if elected president, she is going to bring an end to racism/white supremacy in the U.S.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967022">texas girl in l.a.</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967022" class="dsq-comment-message">Hi Angela,<br></br><br>I was reading over at DailyKos where they are discussing this issue. And some of the people have contacted the Obama HQ directly. </br><br></br><br>They would rather not have a counter protest. A voter registration drive will be going on that same day. And they would rather people participate in that effort. </br><br></br><br>However, if you are going to participate...well here\'s a post from someone who received another email from HQ.</br><br></br><br></br><br>"I just got a call directly from the campaign itself and they\'ve said that anyone interested in attending the RBC Meeting may feel free to go the morning of to see if there are any last-minute seats available (since all the seats available via online are taken). However, if there are no seats available, we are ALL invited to participate in the massive VOTER REGISTRATION DRIVE they are organizing for that same day (details to follow in separate email). The campaign also STRONGLY DISCOURAGES any outside rallying by Obama supporters at the RBC Meeting, as it can be seen as a disruption to the process occurring inside the meeting. They in turn STRONGLY ENCOURAGE we take part in the voter registration drive in our area. I will follow up in a separate email with details on how you can be involved in this drive."</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967024" class="dsq-comment-message">d,<br></br><br>Well reasoned arguments and appeals to objectivity and justice may be lost on val, but not on me. And thanks again for your service!</br><br></br><br>It is sad when smearing the troops or implying McCain is a \'mean old man\' become the default rebuttals to an argument effectively citing the success of the surge.</br><br></br><br>IMO, like the surge is succeeding in Iraq, we are succeeding in the debate here at JJP.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967025">heartsandflowers</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967025" class="dsq-comment-message">D- you mentioned that President Hussein terrorized people - who put him in power in the first place? You don\'t mention the history of the region, how the US & UK remade the borders to cause maximum strife or the intent behind those actions. Iraq had rulers that the they deemed unfriendly to "Western" purposes and took them out to install their own people who they thought they could control. Eventually these dictators turn on the US and then the US decides they\'re \'bad\' and must \'liberate\' people. It\'s BS! And those soldiers would not have their stories verified by the military unless there was going to be a court-martial procedure against them. I am certain they did all the horrible things they\'ve claimed to do - but what they\'ve done is not unique unfortunately. There has not been enough discussion about the women serving in the military who\'ve been raped and abused while serving either. War is Hell! Why do you think so many people come back with PTSD?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967026" class="dsq-comment-message">As for the protests at the meeting, I feel the Clinton\'s are hoping for a violent confrontation.  You get two camps in the same vicinity where there are sore feelings on both sides, ugly things are said and next thing you know...  <br></br><br>The Clinton side has posted an event on the Obama website related to these protests.  Completely ignoring them would deflate much of their protest.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967027" class="dsq-comment-message">The  Jubilee Act is up for vote in the Senate on Tuesday to cancel African debt.<br></br><br>http://www.jubileeusa.org</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967028">D.</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967028" class="dsq-comment-message">Hearts,<br>Yes, war is hell. That\'s probably the only enduring message from IVAW-war sucks.</br><br></br><br>I\'m going to pose a question to you: if you were in the military, and you woke up one morning to discover that someone you served with was accusing you of randomly killing Iraqi citizens, wouldn\'t you at least want to question that person to see where he got that info from to clear your name?</br><br></br><br>The discussion about women being raped/abused in the military is one that we should have. IVAW brought that up to....<i><b>behind closed doors.</b></i> Are you going to try and convince me that\'s a reasonable place to have the discussion?</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967029">texas girl in l.a.</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967029" class="dsq-comment-message">truthseeker,<br></br><br>My thing is to let them appear crazy like the person leading them. </br><br></br><br>The Obama campaign needs to remain organized and register voters as they plan to do on that day. </br><br></br><br>How is it going to help him otherwise, if people are disrupting the meeting? </br><br></br><br>You said that the Clinton\'s supporters posted an event on Obama\'s website?</br><br></br><br>Unbelieveable....let\'s not lose focus.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967030">D.</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967030" class="dsq-comment-message">S,<br>The insurgency must be fought-and defeated-at home and abroad.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967031">LexusOakland</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967031" class="dsq-comment-message">Lots of good discussion here today...but thought a moment of levity might be welcome... apparently a new McCain ad inadvertantly features an Obama supporter! Check it out over at the Political Carnival <a href="http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2008/05/mccain-ad-features-obama-supporter.html" rel="nofollow">http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2008/0...</a>   Made me smile!</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967032" class="dsq-comment-message">TexasGirl,<br></br><br>yeah, here\'s a paste of the event:</br><br></br><br>“IT’S NO JOKE! COUNT EVERY VOTE” Do not leave Florida and Michigan voters out in the cold in November 2008 (Community Service)</br><br>Our mission:</br><br></br><br>We have over 300,000 signatures!</br><br></br><br>How can THE DEMOCRATS brag about REGISTERING a million new voters while disenfranchising 2.3 million voters?</br><br></br><br>Our goal is to obtain even more online and at our “IT’S NO JOKE! COUNT EVERY VOTE” Rally at the World’s Famous Laugh Factory on Friday, May 30th, 2008 at 12-noon (8001 Sunset Blvd., Hollywood, CA 90046) where there will be a press conference with special guest speakers and a FedEx person on hand to overnight the signatures to Howard Dean and the DNC Bylaws and Rules Committee.</br><br></br><br></br><br>Hello, Teri Bernardi would like you to visit the following online campaign, by iPetitions: <a href="http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/1234Whatarewefighting4%3C/br%3E%3Cbr%3E%3C/br%3E%3Cbr%3EEven" rel="nofollow">http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/1234Whatarew...</a> David Axelrod, a top adviser to Barack Obama agrees that the DNC must seat the Florida & Michigan delegates in order to win the White House in November.</br><br></br><br>MySpace URL: <a href="http://www.myspace.com/everyvotecounts4you%3C/br%3E%3Cbr%3ETime:" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/everyvotecounts4you</br>...</a>  Friday, May 30 at 12:00 PM</br><br>Duration:  1 hour</br><br>Host:  Chris Jackson</br><br>Location:  </br><br>World’s Famous Laugh Factory on the Sunset Strip (Los Angeles, CA)</br><br>8001 Sunset Blvd., Hollywood, CA 90046</br><br>Los Angeles, CA 90049</br><br>View Map:  </br><br></br><br>    * Google Maps</br><br>    * MapQuest</br><br>    * Yahoo! Maps</br><br></br><br>Directions:  On the Sunset Strip</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967033" class="dsq-comment-message">heartsandflowers,<br></br><br>Bringing up a past that cannot be changed in order to justify your position that we are the problem has little bearing the argument advocating the success of the surge.</br><br></br><br>\'We never should have gone to war in Iraq in the first place\' is becoming a worn out, out-dated stance in light of the success we are having in Iraq.</br><br></br><br>Looking forward, how does an immediate withdrawal from Iraq, regardless of the positive progress we are making, help the Iraqi people, deter Iran in it\'s quest to expand its power and influence, acquire nuclear weapons and destroy Israel?</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967034">D.</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967034" class="dsq-comment-message">lexus,<br>Are we sure it\'s an Obama shirt? LOL</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967035">texas girl in l.a.</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967035" class="dsq-comment-message">D,<br></br><br>I have one. I noticed it right off.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967036">D.</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967036" class="dsq-comment-message">Oh, well. LOL.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967037">Anonymous</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967037" class="dsq-comment-message">A post from Daily Kos says the Obama Camp does NOT want any protests! I think they must have this thing wrapped.<br></br><br>Obama has shown integrity throughout his campaign---lets honor what he says. It\'s over folks.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967038">TruthSeeker</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967038" class="dsq-comment-message">I agree a rally or protest outside is a bad idea...  The Clinton\'s are desperate and looking for any opening.  Let them go away empty-handed.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967039">Ms.Martin</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967039" class="dsq-comment-message">There\'s really nothing to protest.  The rules were established and adhered to by Senator Obama.<br></br><br>If Hillary wants to challenge the rules let her and her supporters do that alone.</br><br></br><br>I agree with Truthseeker that Camp Crazy would like nothing more than for this meeting to turn into a spectacle.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967040">Val</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967040" class="dsq-comment-message">D - you said "It\'s people like you-who would accept anyone\'s word against the military as fact,  without even seeing if it\'s true that make me wonder what the hell I served for while I was in uniform."<br></br><br>I am not sheep.  I can\'t force me in a direction I don\'t want to go and I don\'t automatically become blind to everything around me and see only what you want me to see.  I can make my own judgements based on what I see, know and hear.  It is easy in this internet age to research information, educate  yourself to get a comprehensive picture of a situation vs. a one sided view Bush/McCain/you would like me to see.  I hear what you are saying I just don\'t agree with it.  </br><br></br><br>BTW - I am not opposed to all wars just DUMB wars.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967041" class="dsq-comment-message">Next time the Clintons whine about how we need to end this primary here are some quotes courtesy of The Jed Report<br>In April \'92, Clinton camp called Brown victory "impossible"</br><br>I have never seen anything like it. I have never seen a candidate treated so disrespectfully just for running. ... I can\'t believe it. It is just frantic the way they are trying to push and pressure and bully all these superdelegates to come out. -- Bill Clinton, on Sunday</br><br></br><br>:: ::</br><br></br><br>Without editorial comment, here\'s a list of quotes and statements about the 1992 Democratic nomination battle from March and April of that year. (Links after the jump.)</br><br></br><br>"Things I see happening in the Brown campaign lead me to believe something destructive is happening. I\'d say it\'s time for Democrats to link arms, dig in our heels, set our sights and work together to put Bill Clinton in the White House in 1992."</br><br>-- Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin (NYT, 3/27/92)</br><br></br><br>"In an interview, Ronald H. Brown, the party chairman, said he wanted to maintain his neutrality but was compelled to speak out against what he described as the former California Governor\'s \'scorched-earth policy\' of verbal assault on Mr. Clinton\'s record and character. "</br><br>-- NYT, 3/27/92</br><br></br><br>"It\'s mathematically impossible for Brown to get the nomination."</br><br>-- Clinton spokesman George Stephanopoulos on Clinton\'s last foe (NYT, 4/8/92)</br><br></br><br>"In the future, people will look back upon this week and this campaign as a turning point, not for Bill Clinton,  but for the Democratic Party and for America."</br><br>-- Bill Clinton, after winning New York\'s primary (NYT, 4/8/92)</br><br></br><br>"People are starting to rally around the flag."</br><br>-- Dee Dee Myers, Clinton Press Sec\'y (NYT, 4/10/92)</br><br></br><br>"It\'s time to close ranks. We cannot wait until July when we already know who has earned the right to be our nominee and who will be our nominee."</br><br>-- West Virginia Sen. Jay Rockefeller (NYT, 4/11/92)</br><br></br><br>"Indeed, reports circulating on Capitol Hill said the Clinton campaign was mounting a strong campaign to swing uncommitted senators behind the Arkansas Governor, and that Ronald H. Brown, the party chairman, was taking part in them."</br><br>-- NYT, 4/29/92</br><br></br><br>"I cannot imagine a set of circumstances that would keep Bill Clinton from having a majority of the delegates by the end of the primary season."</br><br>-- Democratic Party Chairman Ronald H. Brown (NYT, 4/29/92)</br><br></br><br>"Mr. Brown added that he had long hoped for an early nominee \'so we can focus our time and attention on George Bush.\'"</br><br>-- NYT, 4/29/92</br><br></br><br>:: :: </br><br></br><br>March 20, 1992:</br><br></br><br></br><br>Mr. Clinton is already close to the halfway mark in the number of delegates needed to win the nomination and has a 7-to-1 edge over Mr. Brown, who is running a maverick, anti-establishment campaign. Many Democrats said that barring an unexpected collapse by Mr. Clinton\'s campaign, it is difficult to see how Mr. Brown can overtake the Governor. </br><br></br><br>"It certainly brings it much closer to a conclusion," said Ronald H. Brown, the Democratic national chairman. "You could argue that it\'s theoretically possible for Jerry Brown to mount a come-from-behind challenge, but the math and the reality of Bill Clinton\'s momentum certainly work against him." </br><br></br><br>March 27, 1992:</br><br></br><br>The chairman of the Democratic Party issued an unusual rebuke yesterday to one of his party\'s two remaining candidates for President, saying Edmund G. Brown Jr. has "crossed the line in terms of inappropriate attacks" against Gov. Bill Clinton of Arkansas. </br><br></br><br>In an interview, Ronald H. Brown, the party chairman, said he wanted to maintain his neutrality but was compelled to speak out against what he described as the former California Governor\'s "scorched-earth policy" of verbal assault on Mr. Clinton\'s record and character. </br><br></br><br>The party chairman\'s remarks came on a day when other leading Democrats appeared to be closing ranks behind Mr. Clinton, who holds a substantial lead in the number of delegates accumulated but has encountered persistent unease over his candidacy among party regulars.</br><br></br><br>...Mr. Harkin said one reason he had decided to endorse Mr. Clinton was to try to put an end to some of the acrimony that has developed between the two remaining major Democratic candidates. He also said that Mr. Brown had not sought union support until after Mr. Harkin dropped out of the race. </br><br></br><br>"What I\'m afraid now is that we may be entering a destructive phase," Mr. Harkin said in a television appearance with Mr. Clinton that was sent by satellite to a Washington meeting of Democratic fund raisers. "Things I see happening in the Brown campaign lead me to believe something destructive is happening." </br><br></br><br>Mr. Harkin said he had put aside the political differences he had with Mr. Clinton during the primary campaign and he appealed for party unity. "The differences between me and Bill are minuscule compared to our differences with George Bush," Mr. Harkin said at a news conference here. </br><br></br><br>"I\'d say it\'s time for Democrats to link arms, dig in our heels, set our sights and work together to put Bill Clinton in the White House in 1992." </br><br></br><br></br><br>April 8, 1992: </br><br></br><br>Clinton aides breathed their first sighs of relief late last week after their own surveys of New York voters began to show that their support had solidified while Mr. Brown\'s had begun to soften. </br><br></br><br>"In the future, people will look back upon this week and this campaign as a turning point, not for Bill Clinton, but for the Democratic Party and for America," he told his cheering supporters. </br><br></br><br>..."It\'s mathematically impossible for Brown to get the nomination, and it would take Tsongas about 90 percent of the remaining delegates to win," said George Stephanopoulos, Mr. Clinton\'s deputy campaign manager. "So lightning would have to strike. But we\'re going to keep our sneakers on, just in case."</br><br></br><br>April 9, 1992:</br><br></br><br>A tally by The New York Times showed that Mr. Clinton had gained 162 delegates on Tuesday, putting his total at 1,279 of the 2,145 needed for nomination.</br><br></br><br>...Indeed, reports circulating on Capitol Hill said the Clinton campaign was mounting a strong campaign to swing uncommitted senators behind the Arkansas Governor, and that Ronald H. Brown, the party chairman, was taking part in them. Mr. Brown said he had made no request of any superdelegate, although he conceded that he had talked to many "who were reassessing their positions on the day after Bill Clinton took an extraordinary leap forward."</br><br></br><br>April 10, 1992: </br><br></br><br>Dee Dee Myers, Mr. Clinton\'s press secretary, insisted that "people are starting to rally around the flag," and she mentioned Mr. Rockefeller [who was scheduled to endorse later in the week] as an example. She also said the Arkansas Governor plans to meet with uncommitted superdelegates on Capitol Hill on April 29, the day after the Pennsylvania primary, when Congress will return from the Easter recess.</br><br></br><br>Ronald H. Brown, the party chairman, has been phoning uncommitted delegates and others, "discussing the lay of the political territory," as he described it. He denied putting pressure on anybody, but others in the party said he was sending a subtle but clear message that it was time to halt the squabbling.</br><br></br><br>April 11, 1992:</br><br></br><br>The executive board of the Service Employees International Union, which claims one million members, and Senator John D. Rockefeller 4th, Democrat of West Virginia, endorsed Mr. Clinton in separate announcements.</br><br></br><br>"It\'s time to close ranks," he said. "We cannot wait until July when we already know who has earned the right to be our nominee and who will be our nominee," he said. </br><br></br><br>Mr. Rockefeller, who is the party\'s finance chairman, considered running for President this year and has moderated three forums on health care with the Democratic candidates. His endorsement was timed in part to offset the notion that Democrats in Congress and other elected officials who will be superdelegates to the Democratic National Convention in July are reluctant to climb aboard Mr. Clinton\'s bandwagon. </br><br></br><br>"Our fight now is with a man named George Bush, not with other Democrats," Mr. Rockefeller said. "Our weapons are ideas. Our leader is Bill Clinton."</br><br></br><br>April 12, 1992:</br><br></br><br>In a signal that he was prepared to temper the divisive tone of his campaign for President, Edmund G. Brown Jr. said today that he would back the Democratic Party\'s Presidential nominee.</br><br></br><br>...Ronald H. Brown, the Democratic national chairman, paying heed to the scores of placards waving in the audience for Gov. Bill Clinton, Governor Brown or former Senator Paul E. Tsongas, acknowledged that many Democrats think the primary campaign for President is still unsettled, despite Mr. Clinton\'s overwhelming lead in delegates.</br><br></br><br>"I know there are some out there who are saying, \'My God, We need another candidate,\' " Ronald Brown said. But he implored delegates to follow the lead of voters in the primaries so far and "keep our eye on the prize."</br><br></br><br></br><br>In a call for unity, Mr. Brown declared: "We can and we must win, but it\'s going to require the absolute solidarity of our party. We are a very peculiar institution -- the only institution in the world I know where we are harder on each other than on our own adversaries." </br><br></br><br>...It was clear today that former Governor Brown was intent on shedding his role as an angry critic of the Democratic Party and its leaders. Only two days ago, he wondered aloud whether Ronald Brown was "man enough" to cancel the rest of the primaries and anoint Mr. Clinton the party\'s Presidential nominee. But today Governor Brown passed up opportunities to criticize of the party chairman and Mr. Clinton. He saved his fire for "the citadel of governance that has failed the principles of this nation."</br><br></br><br>April 29, 1992:</br><br></br><br>Ronald H. Brown, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, said tonight, "I cannot imagine a set of circumstances that would keep Bill Clinton from having a majority of the delegates by the end of the primary season, based on his performance today." Mr. Brown added that he had long hoped for an early nominee "so we can focus our time and attention on George Bush."</br><br></br><br>... The polls Tuesday showed Mr. Clinton running well across the board, even with some voting groups that had proven less supportive of him in the past, including Roman Catholics. He carried more than half of the white vote over all, 7 in 10 of the black voters and 6 in 10 of the union households.</br><br></br><br>Some analysts said his strength reflected a simple fact of life: For the first time in a very long time, Mr. Clinton was not facing a barrage of character questions. "He still has a long way to go," said Geoffrey Garin, a Democratic poll taker, "but he\'s got the chance to run the kind of campaign he needs to run. He got that chance in Pennsylvania; he wasn\'t fending off a new charge every day."</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967042" class="dsq-comment-message">djchefron said... <br>.....</br><br></br><br>Now, here you go again...dropping truth and logic when it comes to Billary...</br><br></br><br>How.dare.you.</br><br></br><br></br><br>BWA HA HA HA H A HA HA</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967043" class="dsq-comment-message">thanks Texas girl in l.a.<br></br><br>I\'m in Kentucky.....I\'ll be saying my prayers all goes well.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967044" class="dsq-comment-message">Obama wore a light suit today. I thought his speech was good as usual, but it was a serious speech dealing with issue #1 (the economy) so he should\'ve worn a dark suit.<br></br><br>To the mongers, the anti-war aren\'t going to agree with the pro-war. Personally, I would never agree with OCCUPYING a soverign nation anymore than I would be ok with being occupied. I remember 4 or 5 years ago when soldiers were interviewed and said, straight out, that they were guarding the oil pipeline.So to some of us, our tax $s have been paying for oil companies to siphon those people\'s gas out of their land, and we are still being charged astronomical prices (paying twice). Sadam Hussein was in the way. John McCain himself recently said that the war was started over oil. Bush & cheney are HEAVILY connected to the oil industry as well as those companies that have received no-bid contracts (Halliburton, KBR). But people need to have a different reason to put their lives on the line, thus the whole political, WMD, al Qaeda, yada-yada string of anything but oil excuses.This is what is meant when people use the term, "unjust war." Now that we have "bombed Iraq back to the stone age," I think we should help them rebuild and get out. What we did to their country was unconscionable.</br><br></br><br>Lanny Davis is a McCain operative. I read it yesterday on DailyKos. That explains some things and is another verification that the MSM sucks.</br><br></br><br>The kkklinton campaigen death watch: 7 days til liberation!</br><br></br><br>Will she take it to the convention? Historically, anytime it has gone to the convention, the dem candidate has lost. I\'m sure she knows that.</br><br></br><br>The <a href="http://Moveon.org" rel="nofollow">Moveon.org</a> ad about Charlie Black is scurrilous! Whoo-wee. I think it\'s valid. No one would tolerate a nazi sympathizer or person affiliated with a so-called militant group or...You know, anyone controversial.</br><br></br><br>I read an article Rikyrah posted called "Running Mate Choice," and I thought it was a true vanity piece. I disagreed with a lot of what the writer said. For one,he spoke repeatedly about Obamas\'s lack of experience and how he is going to need help doing whatever. I\'m thinking that this writer is dense. He has run the most brilliant campaign in modern history. He has used the primaries to build  bases and open offices in 50 states that can & will be utilized in the GE. He is registering voters for the benefit of the party as well as for his own benefit.He is building a data base.He has surplus money. I think he\'ll be fine. I think he will be able to figure out how to implement what he wants to implement.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967045" class="dsq-comment-message">Val,<br>People who will stand by while our troops are slandered have a special place in hell reserved for them.</br><br></br><br>Now....</br><br></br><br>Has someone told Obama that his uncle couldn\'t have liberated Auschwitz?</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967046">Ms.Martin</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967046" class="dsq-comment-message">Teacher<br></br><br>I agree about the suit - I didn\'t like the tan.</br><br></br><br>I think he looks better a darker suit.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967047">TruthSeeker</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967047" class="dsq-comment-message">Did anyone notice the tick under McCain\'s left eye when he said he\'d never surrender in Iraq?  Involuntary muscle contraction...McCain is a mean, nasty bully.  He was smiling but enraged by that protester.  It\'s just a matter of time now.<br></br><br>Teacher,</br><br>I dunno, I think the dark one suits him better.  I didn\'t like the red tie with it either.  You\'re right, economy...stick to navy or black.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967048">TruthSeeker</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967048" class="dsq-comment-message">@ d,<br></br><br>I suppose it matters not that Obama was using that story to illustrate the mental/emotional trauma of war and why soldiers need screening and treatment for PTSD.  </br><br></br><br>I suppose for the hypocrites, it matters only that the details of an old family story went awry in the telling.</br><br></br><br>Vets cannot wait for Republicans to get their heads out of their asses.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967049">rikyrah</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967049" class="dsq-comment-message">About McCain\'s VP choices...why didn\'t anyone tell me that Crist was SINGLE?<br></br><br>George Hamilton tan, no silver hair out of place AND SINGLE?</br><br></br><br>Oh heck no, the GOP won\'t accept that AT ALL.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967050">TruthSeeker</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967050" class="dsq-comment-message">More fun with body language...<br></br><br>Isn\'t it intersting how George Jr is always touching McCain in pictures?  Especially interesting in how he touches him.   Bush makes a point to touch McCain at the scruff of his neck, leading him like a little bitch.  Who can forget that awkward hug where the shorter McCain\'s face is pressed into Bush\'s chest.  George always throws his arm around McCain\'s shoulder \'cause he knows McCain can\'t stand it.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967051">TruthSeeker</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967051" class="dsq-comment-message">@ d,<br></br><br>No, I said that last sentence based on my accute awareness of your heads up your asses.</br><br></br><br>And speaking of details, what did you think of McCain\'s confusing Shia and Sunni.  Also, what do you think of PTSD and the soldiers - like McCain - who return to their family\'s suffering from it?</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967052">Teacher</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967052" class="dsq-comment-message">Rikyrah, The CBN journalist said today that Crist wasn\'t favored by evangelicals because he is or has been pro-life. <br></br><br>I had as weird vision of the McCain weekend candidate gathering being something like Flavor of Love where they have to show why they are for McCain. I kinda like Lindsey Graham except for him being in the 527 with Lieberman.He seems smart and is quite glib. I think he is on the VP list as well. I like Huckabee, but I haven\'t yet forgiven him for the so-called joke about shooting Barak. I wouldn\'t think that he would stoop so low.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967053">D.</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967053" class="dsq-comment-message">Truth,<br>I thought it presented an opportunity for the DNC to pounce on McCain, which they did...and rightly so. </br><br>Only reason evertong not kicking and screaming as loud over Obama is because you expect those gaffes from someone who never served.</br><br></br><br>As someone with PTSD, I think it\'s very serious. Anything else you wanna know about it?</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967054">Ms.Martin</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967054" class="dsq-comment-message">Truthseeker<br></br><br>I saw tat tick and te tight clench in his jaw.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967055">Teacher</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967055" class="dsq-comment-message">Truthseeker, McCain is physically impaired. He can\'t raise his arms up. He can\'t even comb his hair. Thats why he hugs W down low (excuse the pun).</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967056" class="dsq-comment-message">teacher,<br></br><br>I know he\'s physically impaired.  The optics were bad, as we all know they don\'t like each other, and it made McCain seem like the panderer he is accused of being.  I think George is delighting in making the bully grovel.</br><br></br><br>I don\'t have a pavlovian response to his service and understand he\'s always been a bully.</br><br></br><br>Those who feel it ought to know it, but unfortunately, sometimes the ones who\'ve been there are more cruel to their brothers in the same situation.  It proves that military service doesn\'t make one automatically comapassionate to his/her brothers.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967057">TruthSeeker</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967057" class="dsq-comment-message">Great segment on Hardball with Joan Walsh and Joe Madsison.  Listen to an bitter and argumentative Joan rant about how could we act like Hillary is capable of making a statement like this and summoning up the worst fears and tragedy of our democracy, to act like this woman is capable of that..<br></br><br>Well Joan,  we don\'t have to act.  She DID say it.  People DID respond viscerally and she DID pointedly refuse to apologize to the Obama\'s.  Hillary gave a backhanded apology to the Kennedy\'s and wasn\'t generous enough to include Obama in even that lame apology.</br><br></br><br>Joan knows the truth but refuses to acknowledge it.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967058" class="dsq-comment-message">d,<br></br><br>truthseeker isn\'t interested in serious debate, preferring personal attacks. The litany of stock responses from the left cannot camouflage the fact that they cannot defend their candidate\'s position on Iraq, Iran and foreign policy in general.</br><br></br><br>I too suffer from PTSD, not from combat related trauma, but from early childhood sexual abuse. One need not fall victim to tragic, horrific circumstances.</br><br></br><br>Here again truthseeker is throwing PTSD around to personally attack McCain as unfit, without being informed. </br><br></br><br></br><br>I will continue to challenge Obama on his positions on the issues. IMO he is woefully lacking in experience and judgment.</br><br></br><br>I have yet to read on this thread a  challenging rebuttal to our contention that the surge is working and that Obama\'s promise to immediately withdrawal our troop regardless of the progress demonstrates how unprepared he is to lead our nation at this time.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967059" class="dsq-comment-message">My psychosis is I like to savage Right wing wingnuts.  They are so deliciously deserving.  Perhaps it\'s my sanity.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967060" class="dsq-comment-message">Hi Everybody,<br></br><br>Thanks for the great posts everyone. Thanks djcheferon. </br><br></br><br>There in some twenty dozen quotes is unequivocal proof the nomination was wrapped up for Bubba well before June. But hey, most knew that. If they did not, they do not deserve to be journalist. Most of the MSM just allowed the crazy lady to repeat the meme over and over until she started to it believe herself. Enablers I tell ya.</br><br></br><br>Funniest thing today on Hardball (Chris is SO going to get it)...</br><br>They were showing footage of Bubba doing his schitck " they are trying to push her out of the campaign, never has a candidate been so DISRPECTED...yada yada". Camera pans back to Chris and he deadpans "Did he respect her"? Of course we all know what he was referring to.</br><br></br><br>I thought I was going to bust a gut. Ha, the irony.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967061" class="dsq-comment-message">So, in Truth\'s world, veterans who gave served this country in ways she can\'t even imagine are reduced to "right wing wingnuts."<br></br><br>There\'s respect for you.</br><br></br><br>Anyone else share that sentiment?</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967062" class="dsq-comment-message">Truthseeker<br></br><br>I saw that angry Joan Walsh.  Do you think she was feigning angry for the sake of the argument that illary had nothing to apologize for?</br><br></br><br>Naw - she\'s pissed.  Sorry girls it\'s over.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967063" class="dsq-comment-message">McCain is clearly damaged.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967064" class="dsq-comment-message">Conflate much d?  <br></br><br>If you want to take me down you\'ll have to use some other tack.  I\'ll respectfully give you 3 tries.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967065" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>Great segment on Hardball with Joan Walsh and Joe Madsison. Listen to an bitter and argumentative Joan rant about how could we act like Hillary is capable of making a statement like this and summoning up the worst fears and tragedy of our democracy, to act like this woman is capable of that..<br></br><br>Well Joan, we don\'t have to act. She DID say it. People DID respond viscerally and she DID pointedly refuse to apologize to the Obama\'s. Hillary gave a backhanded apology to the Kennedy\'s and wasn\'t generous enough to include Obama in even that lame apology.</br><br></br><br>Joan knows the truth but refuses to acknowledge it.</br><br></br><br></br></i><br></br><br>truthseeker,</br><br></br><br>I went back and forth as to what was my favorite segment on Hardball today - that exchange, or Roger Simon just hammering on Hillpatine. I\'ll go with Joe Madison. Joan \' My Magazine Actually Called Obama UPPITY\' Walsh bitching and moaning about </br><br>\'the demonizing of BILLARY?\' </br><br></br><br>Joe looked like he was about to crack up. </br><br></br><br>I know I called out, \' Bitch, please\'. </br><br></br><br>Joe told it like it was - Black folk ain\'t having NO PARTS OF THE CLINTONS, and saw the statement for what it was.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967066" class="dsq-comment-message">ms.martin,<br></br><br>I know...she was practically shaking. I think she knows it\'s the end but can\'t bring herself to blame Hillary for her own demise.  She blames Obama and sexism..even though no sexism came from the O campaign.</br><br></br><br>I worry how this group of women will be able to live with themselves when the history books are written and the documentaries are made.  They are failing to show honour in a difficult situation.  They will not look back and be proud.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967067" class="dsq-comment-message">How would you know anything about showing honor?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967068" class="dsq-comment-message">Truthseeker<br></br><br>I agree.  She won\'t be proud tomorrow when she sees the tape of that scowl on her face long after that conversation ended.</br><br></br><br>Anger is very unattractive.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967069" class="dsq-comment-message">Hillary must have been planning an all-girl team.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967070">teacher</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967070" class="dsq-comment-message">I hope O will build good relationships w/ Nigeria & (dare I say it)Venezuela and get the oil flowin & the prices to drop, even just a little. A whole bunch of folks will have to shut up! It would be such a coup. I would also like to see the development of highspeed rail. The airline industry can\'t handle it, and we really need an alternative.We can model ours after Europe or Japan. I hope we will be able to work on alternatives to oil and I\'m not 100% against nuclear even though it\'s scary. <br></br><br>What about Libertarianism? I don\'t know much about them. John Stossel, Tucker Carlson & Glen Beck are Libertarians. Unimpressive, I know. I think they believe in every person for him/herself. They believe in the least government of all. I would let them haul their own garbage and fix the streets in front of their homes. Go for it.</br><br></br><br>If you want to change political parties, you have to go to the DMV and fill out a new form. I think I\'m going to register indy. I can\'t say that dem fits me any longer.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967071" class="dsq-comment-message">@ d,<br></br><br>You\'ve got 2 more tries.  Use them wisely.</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967072" class="dsq-comment-message">Libertarians strongly oppose government infringement of civil liberties such as restrictions on free expression (e.g., speech, press, or religious belief or practice), prohibitions on voluntary association, or encroachments on persons or property. Some make an exception when the infringement is a result of due process to establish or punish criminal behaviour. As such, libertarians oppose any type of censorship (i.e., claims of offensive speech), or pre-trial forfeiture of property (as is commonly seen in drug crime and computer crime proceedings). Furthermore, most libertarians reject the distinction between political and commercial speech or association, a legal distinction often used to protect one type of activity and not the other from government intervention.[20]<br></br><br>Libertarians also oppose any laws restricting personal or consensual behaviour, as well as laws against victimless crimes. As such, they believe that individual choices for products or services should not be limited by government licensing requirements or state-granted monopolies, or in the form of trade barriers that restrict choices for products and services from other nations (see Free trade). They also tend to oppose legal prohibitions on recreational drug use, gambling, and prostitution. They believe that citizens should be free to take risks, even to the point of actual harm to themselves. For example, while most libertarians may personally agree with the majority who favour the use of seatbelts, libertarians reject mandating their use as paternalistic. Similarly, many believe that the United States Food and Drug Administration (and other similar bodies in other countries like Health Canada in Canada) shouldn\'t ban unproven medical treatments, that any decisions on treatment be left to patient and doctor only, and that government should be limited to passing non-binding judgments about efficacy or safety, if it is allowed to do anything at all.[20]</br><br></br><br>Some libertarians believe such freedoms are a universal birthright, and they accept any material inequalities or wanton behaviour, as long as it harms no one else, likely to result from such a policy of governmental non-intervention. They see economic inequality as an outcome of people\'s freedom to choose their own actions, which may or may not be profitable. However, many libertarians believe that extreme concentration of wealth in a few hands is a result of state intervention, and that liberty ultimately leads to a more diffuse distribution though not necessarily an equal one. A prime cause of extreme wealth disparity stems from government granting special privileges to some businesses at the expense of consumers and other businesses.[citation needed] Many libertarians, including Ron Paul and Murray Rothbard, consider that the most fundamental government grant of special privilege involves the legitimization and protection of fractional reserve banking through the Federal Reserve and the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. They therefore call for the abolition of the Federal Reserve System.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967073">Ms.Martin</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967073" class="dsq-comment-message">Have you guys heard about McCains lobbyist who\'s working to keep omeonwer\'s from getting help with their mortgages?<br></br><br>Identifed as enabler of the mortgage scandle - Phil Graham.  Doesn\'t look good.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967074">honey01</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967074" class="dsq-comment-message">Yeah, she was pissed. It was way too personal. Funny as hell though.<br>Part of me wants to say, forget her and her base. I know that is not realistic. I simply do not understand their logic. All I hear, "it is OUR/HER time". Now, they are starting with lame as sexist sh**, like Obama sometimes refers to female reporters as "sweetie". And? Not a good thing. But you know what, I vividly recall McCain losing his temper with a female reporter aboard his private jet. I thought he was going to pimp slap her with his good arm. That\'s who they should be worried about.</br><br></br><br>I liked when Joe asked "who is doing the questioning here, you or Chris? I could be wrong, but I notice some White Hillary supporters will become really brazen when matched up against a male counterpart of late. They don\'t quite seem to give the same push back to the host. Witness todays episode with Joan Walsh of Salon. She really did not become combative until Joe started to speak. Last week Lisa Caputo had her ass handed to her by Chris and she couldn\'t say sh**, but a day later she was on with (I think Jamal) and she was pulling the crazy white lady routine. Then again, I see this type of behavior of the very candidate they support.</br><br></br><br>It\'s like, where was this gravitas when you were up against Matthews.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967075">Ms.Martin</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967075" class="dsq-comment-message">" I thought he was going to pimp slap her with his good arm. "<br></br><br>RAOTFLMAO</br></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967076" class="dsq-comment-message">D- Bringing up the past relating to why this country occupies another is a valid argument. You can\'t just talk about a current action without reviewing the entire history. Also past actions tend to favor future actions. You can\'t ignore something because it makes you uncomfortable or doesn\'t fit in your limited viewpoints on a subject. I have family that has served and there are some things people never want to talk about in the open about unnecessarily bring harm to civilians and sometimes other soldiers. These themes have been plot devices in movies as well. The writers weren\'t just pulling ideas out of thin air either. And if I was accused of doing something I didn\'t do I\'d be upset but trust in the system. It is far more likely that the opposite occurs where violations go unreported. Fighting for independence from tyranny and colonialism and looting a nation of its resources are not the same thing.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967077">TruthSeeker</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967077" class="dsq-comment-message">honey01,<br></br><br>You\'re right, the way she took on Joe.  It was like she was trying to put the black man in his place.</br><br></br><br>As for McCain and that reporter...talk about not answering a reporters question.  You didn\'t hear a peep out of any of those women.  McCain has called his wife "cunt".  He has made a crude joke about Chelsea being ugly because Janet Reno is her father, which he had to apologize for.  </br><br></br><br>All I hear from these paper tiger feminists is how they\'re going to vote for anti-choice McCain if Hillary is not on the ticket.  But, they put Obama through hell because he\'s a black man and they want to emasculate him, and make him bow down to them.  Ms.martin, you are so right about their unattractiveness.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967078">Anonymous</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967078" class="dsq-comment-message">Obama, who hasn’t been to Iraq since 2006 (when the situation was a weeee bit different) said no thanks to John McCain\'s proposal for a joint trip to Iraq.<br></br><br>Apparently Obama learned all he need to know about Iraq from watching Olbermann.</br><br></br><br>I guess the idea of sitting down with American troops, their leaders and the elected government of Iraq isn’t as interesting as a world tour of thugs and killers. Perhaps if McCain had suggested skipping Baghdad and going right on to Tehran to chat with Ahmadinejad Obama would have been more interested.</br><br></br><br>I hope McCain can get some mileage out this. He can beat Obama up for not wanting to see first hand what’s going on in Iraq but also for being unwilling to put partisan politics aside for the sake of the country.</br><br></br><br>Obama \'08: Hope, Change and Bitterly Clinging to an Old Narrative.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967079">Black American Princess</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967079" class="dsq-comment-message">Kinda off topic but I emailed this cat to let him know I plan to boycott their sponsors and am encouraging everyone I know to do the same until they can Liz Trotta for suggesting Obama be "knocked off."<br></br><br><b>Brian Lewis</b></br><br>Executive Vice President, Corporate Communications</br><br>FOX News</br><br>1211 Avenue of the Americas</br><br>New York, NY 10036 </br><br>Phone: 212-301-3000</br><br>Fax: 212-301-8588</br><br>E-Mail: brian.lewis@foxnews.com</br><br></br><br></br><br>As I type this, I am in the process of suffering through Hannity and Colmes to compile a list of Fox News sponsors. I plan to contact each sponsor and tell them why I plan to boycott their products/services. </br><br></br><br>I\'ll also mention the petition below to Mr. Lewis of Fox and each sponsor. Since yesterday alone, it has garnered over 6,000 signatures.</br><br></br><br>This is the last damn straw...</br><br></br><br>http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/fox-news-has-to-sack-liz-trotta</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967080">TruthSeeker</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967080" class="dsq-comment-message">They should add O\'Reilly to that petition for talking about sending a lynch party for Michelle.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967081">rikyrah</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967081" class="dsq-comment-message"><i> Last week Lisa Caputo had her ass handed to her by Chris and she couldn\'t say sh**, but a day later she was on with (I think Jamal) and she was pulling the crazy white lady routine. Then again, I see this type of behavior of the very candidate they support.<br></br></i><br></br><br>truthseeker and honey,</br><br></br><br>and don\'t get them started on Michelle!</br><br></br><br>They DESPISE Michelle..</br><br></br><br>But, that\'s ok...cause we\'ve got Michelle\'s back.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967082">Anonymous</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967082" class="dsq-comment-message">Fuck Joan Walsh. Get the fuck out of the way Bill & Hill. It\'s Obama\'s Party dammit. She\'s a angry bitch b/c she knows it\'s over. Hillary & Bill have been sending code messages since South Carolina Primary. Everything they say or do is calculated.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967083">Black American Princess</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967083" class="dsq-comment-message">truthseeker, when did O\'reilly make that lynch remark about Michelle?  These Fox News racists have all got to GO.  We should have BEEN boycotted that network to be totally real about it...</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967084">TruthSeeker</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967084" class="dsq-comment-message">black american princess,<br></br><br>here\'s the video:</br><br><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=CowWSNO6v30" rel="nofollow">Video</a></br><br></br><br></br><br>Some good satire at Huffington:</br><br><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-gene-sullivan/ku-klux-klan-wont-endorse_b_103816.html" rel="nofollow">Ku Klux Klan Won\'t Endorse Obama</a></br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967085">honey01</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967085" class="dsq-comment-message">I meant to say that Joan Walsh, Lisa Caputo, etc become brazen when paired up with Black contributors (not just males).  <br></br><br>Is the appropriate word for it, projecting? I dunno, maybe just crazy.</br><br></br><br>But yeah, they give Michelle B. a hard time.</br><br></br><br>Thanks BAP for the petition info!</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967086">Nquest</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967086" class="dsq-comment-message">D,<br></br><br>Jeremiah Wright served in the military.  So, bow down or STFU!</br><br></br><br></br><br>Obama confusing a Polish camp with a German one pales in comparisons to a "military vet" and SENATOR not knowing the difference between Sunnis and Shiites in a war he voted for and supports.  And, to think, the dumb mf went to Iraq (and brags about) but he doesn\'t know the most basic of details about a CURRENT event.</br><br></br><br>So one that dumb shouldn\'t even be allowed to run and if his views of his \'pastors\' in anyway way reflects his own or a number of flag waving, bs talking (White) Americans then we know why McCain never even bothered to learn the difference by Sunnis and Shiites.</br><br></br><br>I like, damn...  Did the mf ever even pick up a newspaper?</br><br></br><br>Don\'t tell me he\'s another WHITE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION candidate like Bush...</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967087">TruthSeeker</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967087" class="dsq-comment-message">Here\'s the Hardball segment with Joan and Joe Madison for anyone who missed it.<br></br><br>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3U0df0qGoA</br><br></br><br>This could be turning into "Those black people stole this from Hillary"   The Clinton\'s have people fighting on their behalf.  Joan and McAuliffe are on tv destroying their integrity while the Clinton\'s sit on 50 million dollars, govt. perks and lifetime Secret Service protection.  I wish someone would shake some sense into these surrogates.  Her campaign staff probably hasn\'t been paid in weeks.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967088">texas girl in l.a.</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967088" class="dsq-comment-message">truthseeker,<br></br><br>thanks for posting the link. I was going to go and look for it.</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967089">Ms.Martin</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967089" class="dsq-comment-message">rikyrah<br></br><br>http://www.faithbase.com/barack_Obama/</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967090">texas girl in l.a.</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967090" class="dsq-comment-message">If someone already posted....sorry for double posting. Found at DailyKos<br></br><br>The Obama staff issued a correction the following day to the Auschwitz/Buchenwald</br><br></br><br>"Senator Obama\'s family is proud of the service of his grandfather and uncles in World War II – especially the fact that his great uncle was a part of liberating one of the concentration camps at Buchenwald. Yesterday he mistakenly referred to Auschwitz instead of Buchenwald in telling of his personal experience of a soldier in his family who served heroically," said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton."</br><br></br><br>They also offered background on his uncle\'s unit. </br><br></br><br>United States Holocaust Memorial Museum:</br><br>http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId;=10006140</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967091">rikyrah</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967091" class="dsq-comment-message">Just look at the picture of Eisenhower\'s Mama. <br></br><br>Come on....getting hints of Bob Barr just looking at her...LOL</br><br></br><br><a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08036/854713-51.stm" rel="nofollow">Racial heritage of six former presidents is questioned</a></br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967092">rikyrah</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967092" class="dsq-comment-message">Maureen Dowd\'s latest:<br></br><br><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/28/opinion/28dowd.html?_r=1&amp;ref=opinion&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">Can He Take a Frisk?</a></br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967093">rikyrah</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967093" class="dsq-comment-message"><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/17/AR2008051701294.html" rel="nofollow">At U-Va., a Dean Making a Difference</a></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967094">grw</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967094" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>Obama confusing a Polish camp with a German one pales in comparisons to a "military vet" and SENATOR not knowing the difference between Sunnis and Shiites in a war he voted for and supports. And, to think, the dumb mf went to Iraq (and brags about) but he doesn\'t know the most basic of details about a CURRENT event.</i><br></br><br>What about Obama not knowing that Arabic isn\'t spoken in Afghanistan?  Is that comparable?</br></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967095">D.</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967095" class="dsq-comment-message">Did Nquest not get the memo about moving past Rev. Wright?</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967096">Ronnie B</span>\
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	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-1967096" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967096" class="dsq-comment-message">d & s<br></br><br>Thanks for your replies yesterday re: "winning" in Iraq.  Sorry I couldn\'t follow up.</br><br></br><br>Based, though, on both of your responses, you both believe that we will have won when Iraq\'s government is stabilized and functional.  Both of you know, however, that such a scenario is analogous to beating someone to near-death, and then having the nerve to claim a "victory" once they\'re off life support and are stabilized.</br><br></br><br>I\'m sure you both also know that the key to "victory" in Viet Nam was similarly stated in those vaguely platitudinal terms.  Democracy; stabilized government; blah, blah.  But none of those things happened until our government <b>withdrew</b> our military from Viet Nam.  In other words, we were part of the problem.  Not the solution.</br><br></br><br>This is why John McCain was correct in his figurative assessment of "100 years" in the region.  He knows as well as any that the "victory" that some people tout can take generations to achieve.  </br><br></br><br>Or we can do what we did with Viet Nam and leave so that the people in the region can make their own decisions on how they will conduct their lives.</br></div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-1967097">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-1967097" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-1967097" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967097">Plantsmantx</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-1967097" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967097" class="dsq-comment-message">"The insurgency must be fought-and defeated-at home and abroad."<br></br><br>Exactly who makes up "the insurgency" in the U.S.? For that matter, who makes up the insurgency in Iraq, seeing as how the U.S. has supported both Shia and Sunni fighters at one time or another?</br></div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-1967098">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-1967098" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-1967098" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-1967098">Anonymous</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-1967098" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-1967098" class="dsq-comment-message">IVAW didn\'t talk *behind closed doors*, they spoke with a need for security after numerous threats. You can help make sure the need for security doesn\'t preclude the message being sent out as much as possible by watching <a href="http://ivaw.org/wintersoldier/testimony" rel="nofollow">http://ivaw.org/wintersoldier/testimony</a> and sharing that link with those you know.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 </ul>\
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Dsq.Debug.profile(function() {
	if(Dsq.jsonData.request.page == 1 && Dsq.jsonData.request.is_initial_load) {
		Dsq.container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.header() + Dsq.container.innerHTML + Dsq.Templates.footer();
	}
	Dsq.$(Dsq.curPageId).innerHTML = Dsq.$(Dsq.curPageId).innerHTML.replace(Dsq.COMMENTS_RE, Dsq.CommentsHandler);
}); // Dsq.Debug.Profile

// HACK: Resetting cache because we're done with.
Dsq.Utils.gebiFromElementCollectionCache = null;


	
	
	var dsq_styleEl = document.getElementById(disqus_container_id);
	var dsq_anchorEl = document.getElementsByTagName('a')[0];
	
	Dsq.Thread.fc = Dsq.Utils.getStyle(dsq_styleEl, 'color');
	if(dsq_anchorEl) { Dsq.Thread.ac = Dsq.Utils.getStyle(dsq_anchorEl, 'color'); }
	Dsq.Thread.ff = Dsq.Utils.getStyle(dsq_styleEl, (Dsq.Utils.ie || window.opera ? 'fontFamily' : 'font-family'));
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	Dsq.Thread.ff = Dsq.Thread.ff.replace(/['"]/g, '');
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	Dsq.Thread.ac = encodeURIComponent(Dsq.Thread.ac);
	Dsq.Thread.ff = encodeURIComponent(Dsq.Thread.ff);

	
	
	
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			Dsq.frames['reply_0'] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$(Dsq.Templates.textareaContainer));
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].init(function() {
				// Use fallback iframe
				Dsq.$(Dsq.Templates.addPostContainer).innerHTML = '';
				var theme = (typeof disqus_frame_theme == 'undefined') ? 'default' : disqus_frame_theme;
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(Dsq.$(Dsq.Templates.addPostContainer), null, {theme: theme});
				// if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
			});
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			// DEPRECATED
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-post-add'));
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	if(document.location.hash != '') {
		document.location.hash = document.location.hash.substring(1);
	}

	Dsq.Popup.showCookieMsgs();

	
	if(document.location.search != '' && location.hash != '#disqus_thread') {
		var reply_id = Dsq.Utils.getRequestParams().dsq;
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	if (Dsq.jsonData.integration.theme == 4) {
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	// Private
	var running = false;
	var timer = null;
	var pending = [];
	var startTimer = function() {
		running = true;
		timer = setInterval(obj.heartBeat, 100);
	};
	var stopTimer = function() {
		running = false;
		clearInterval(timer);
	};
	
	// Public
	obj.add = function (condition, code) {
		pending.push([condition,code]);
		this.heartBeat(); //!
		if (!running) {
			startTimer();
		}
	};
	obj.heartBeat = function() {
		if (!pending.length) {
			stopTimer();
		}
		var newPending = [];
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				code();
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				newPending.push([cond, code]);
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// also used in embed_thread.js:
window.fbIsReady = function () {return window.FB && FB.init;};
// NOTE: This script gets executed again without threadEl
//       set when we are loaded again as the fbc_receiver.
//       In this case, we don't need the hidden container.

if(!window.FB || !FB.init) {
	if(window.Dsq && Dsq.container) {
		// container is not present when init.js is loaded from an xd-receiver iframe; in this case,
		// we don't need the FB_HiddenContainer anyway.
		var fbDiv = document.createElement('div');
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		fbDiv.style.position = 'absolute';	// This is intentionally not setting display to none as this breaks
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		fbDiv.style.left = '-10000px';
		fbDiv.style.width = '0px';
		fbDiv.style.height = '0px';
		Dsq.container.appendChild(fbDiv);
	}
	var fbJS = document.createElement('script');
	fbJS.type = "text/javascript";
	fbJS.src = "http://static.ak.connect.facebook.com/js/api_lib/v0.4/FeatureLoader.js.php";
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	ExecuteWhen.add(window.fbIsReady,
		function () {
			// HACK: This is a workaround FBC's single domain limitation by
			//		 allowing sites to create multiple forums with different
			//		 Facebook API keys.  This must be used in conjunction with
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			if (typeof disqus_facebook_api_key != 'undefined') {
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			FB.init(facebook_api_key, window.facebookXdReceiverPath || null,
				{fetchSignedPublicSessionData: true});
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}


	


if(typeof(disqus_callback) == 'function') {
	var callback_params = Dsq.Utils.getRequestParams()['dsq_cbp'] || null;

	// We don't care about any errors in third-party code
	try {
		disqus_callback(callback_params);
	} catch (x) {
		if (typeof(console) != 'undefined' && typeof(console.log) == 'function') {
			// But it would be nice to let developers know about them
			console.log(x);
		}
		// pass
	}

	// HACK: We don't know if the callback wraps our container, which may
	// possibly result in a new DOM element.
	Dsq.container = document.getElementById('dsq-content');
}

})();




