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"streaming_realtime": false, "url": "jackandjillpolitics", "allow_anon_post": false, "reactions_enabled": true, "reply_position": 1, "show_avatar": true, "allow_anon_votes": false, "disqus_auth_disabled": false}, "realtime_enabled": false, "request": {"username": "", "is_global_moderator": false, "sharing": {}, "sort": 4, "forum": "jackandjillpolitics", "is_initial_load": true, "is_authenticated": false, "timestamp": "2009-12-09_16:11:48", "remote_domain": "", "page": 1, "is_moderator": false, "display_username": "", "points": null, "subscribe_on_post": 2, "moderator_can_edit": false, "is_remote": false, "is_verified": false, "missing_perm": "login"}, "realtime_paused": false, "posts": {"4606471": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "If Wright would've used wisdom and kept his mouth closed and allowed Obama to do damage control, not only would he still be Obama's spiritual mentor, but he'd probably had a best-selling novel, academic appointment offers from prestigious seminaries and divinity schools, honorary doctorates, speaking engagements with high five-figure honorariums, and a successful talk show tour.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_07:24:20", "killed": false, "user_key": "soulsistah02", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 5, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4600823, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4622252": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I've read your response...twice...and I agree with it.<br>Thank you.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_23:26:25", "killed": false, "user_key": "Admiral_Komack", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4598532, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4597260": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "You said it exactly CPL!  Which is why I don't understand how Black folks can be so blind here & treat this as a gay issue telling people to STFU.  Nope it's about principle.  The same PE who all of the sudden woke up & decided he could not attend the church he had attended for 20 yrs over messages that were not even divisive, now invites a man who really is divisive to give the invocation.  I'm sorry but Black folks need to wake up.  It's larger than gay rights.  Not to mention there are lots of other views Mr. Warren has that make him inappropriate to give the invocation.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_17:17:39", "killed": false, "user_key": "488e8a8c93b64d13788705482d773f70", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4599128": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I'm not defending Warrend but actually he said that he loves gays but he hates what they do. <a href=\"http://www.ktla.com/landing_topstories/?blockID=167915&feedID=1198\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.ktla.com/landing_topstories/?blockID...</a><br>I don't know how he intends to clean up all the other stuff that he said.  <br><br>In any case, I understand that the Warren pick has made a lot of people upset with Obama and many of us hear you on this but I just feel that all the vocal frustration is not worth it (unless you heard that Warren intends to bash gays in the invocation\u2026I haven\u2019t heard that).  <br><br>Could we put our energy to better use to educate people about issues instead of getting worked up and lashing out?  <br><br>Donna Brazile told the Sunday morning round-table forum at ABC that after Aretha Franklin sings she would\u2019ve forgotten all about Warren and \u2026whatever he said in the invocation.  I second that\u2026I\u2019m looking forward to hearing Aretha sing, too.  Let's not forget that January 20 is all about America...God Bless America!!!", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_19:19:02", "killed": false, "user_key": "09203445bf8f02fbebccc76bca0b6e3a", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4598628, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4598804": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Alicia was a STAUNCH Hillary supporter-felt that she was the ONLY one that could lead this nation.  I remember seeing her on Clay Cane's blog in attack mode on Obama ALL THE TIME. Not shocked she'd jump on this to attack him again.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_18:57:31", "killed": false, "user_key": "ef6b300676d1702a1666b17cc6a7403f", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4598412, "depth": 2, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4598806": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "See I KNEW I wasn't tripping, I was just having this conversation with my husband the other day!  I couldn't remember for sure if it was Billy Graham at Clinton's inauguration though, thanks for confirming my suspicions!<br><br>The New Negro Rule/Double-Standard is still in FULL M_THAF_CKIN AFFECT...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_18:57:52", "killed": false, "user_key": "BlackAmericanPrincess", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4597757, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4628228": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "huh?", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-25_15:40:19", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4627402, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4598811": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Preach Monie!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_18:58:16", "killed": false, "user_key": "ef6b300676d1702a1666b17cc6a7403f", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4597757, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4598301": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "O how I have wished for this DAY!!<br><br>BAM!!<br><br>Hallelujiah!!", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_18:25:53", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4597529, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4615089": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Why aiming at this pastor and ignore the Pope loudly voicing same stupid things?<br><br>About Obama...<br><br>From someone who cam surround himself with detractors...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_17:13:18", "killed": false, "user_key": "ochyming", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4602183": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "LMAO I know right  lol", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_23:31:46", "killed": false, "user_key": "88c5aa2aec2d280958109f85fdd44561", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4601954, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4596775": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "The question I ask myself is \"did the end justify the means?\"...and for me personally, its a resounding \"Yes\". We don't need martyrs right now IMO, we need a politician that can effectively turn this economy around. PEO did what he had to do to get where he had to get. I've done that before and no doubt will apply that principle again.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_16:51:24", "killed": false, "user_key": "c22bbad359677d681692848d5775fd8b", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4602409": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "now Town, why you talking too much like right.<br><br><br>LOL", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_23:52:50", "killed": false, "user_key": "rikyrah", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": true, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4597479, "depth": 2, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4599303": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "The point he is making is that the VAST majority of Americans concur with Rick Warren, Obama, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, John Edwards, the Pope (the list is limitless) who do NOT support gay marriage.  It has been put on the ballot in 30 states, and it's 30 and 0.  <br><br>I support gay marriage, but my views and apparently yours are not in the mainstream, and it's certainly not going to gain any traction with these antics: targeting one preacher, the most popular preacher in the country, is by extension targeting the vast majority of Americans who concur and will now only view him more sympathetically.   And do white Liberals and the LGBT community will want to take on the African American community?  Is thar really a battle they want to lose--AGAIN?!<br><br>P.S.:  Speaking of the Pope.  I'm still waiting for white Liberals (and their negro spokespeople) to attack his comments from yesterday comparing homosexuality to global warming and delcaring it an assault on our humanity.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_19:29:29", "killed": false, "user_key": "4fd3ca416b455e03c3fa02c8bc744eb4", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4597427, "depth": 2, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4597426": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Regrading Cohen's comment, why does Obama have to be a moral leader in the first place? Also what was is position during the whole Wright episode?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_17:26:46", "killed": false, "user_key": "malletgirl02", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4626994": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "....co-sign, girl.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-25_12:36:54", "killed": false, "user_key": "blksista", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4626759, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4627123": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "One of Hillary Clinton's minions--<a href=\"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5732357\" rel=\"nofollow\">Barbara Reynolds</a>--brought him over there, and it is generally thought that under the guise of getting him to speak about the demonization of the black church, she got him to talk <u>too damn much.</u>  The link above has another link to an article in the New York Daily News that explains her complicity in that mess.<br><br>You cannot tell me that as a HIllary supporter, Reynolds would agree with <i>all</i> that Wright said.<br><br>Wright was already tired after the round of interviews on Bill Moyers' show and elsewhere.  But when he started talking really rad, and of having the Fruit of Islam squiring him around, that was it.  The media had more than a few minutes of time to try to sink Obama.  Plus, I heard he was paid for this appearance, although not by the NPC.   You would think the old man would see how he was going to be used.  It was like he didn't give a shyt anymore and was flipping the bird at Obama.  It was a stupid move, but I can well understand the tit for tat going on.  That's when Obama got permission, from this appearance, to cut him off completely.<br><br>This is not to say that Obama's hands are clean either, as evidenced by his muzzling the minister earlier.<br><br>Don't get me wrong.  I liked some of what Wright had to say, not all.  I saw the Moyers interview, and I thought that he had acquitted himself well.  But when I saw the soundbites from the NPC speech, I was appalled.  I knew Obama had been given permission to cut him off completely as a costly liability, something that I don't think he really wanted to do.<br><br>In some ways, this is another reason why Jesse Jackson could not be asked to be part of the Inaugural.  Not for being the first black male Democrat to run for the White House.  Not for saying stuff at the right time, but <i>for saying stuff at the wrong time</i> (and doing stuff at the wrong time), and most recently, for being overheard saying he wanted to cut Obama's nuts off.<br><br>In other words, I agree: Wright dug his own grave in not being invited.  If he had kept counsel after Obama's speech, he would be there, not Warren.  I believe that.  Wright also ministered to black gays and lesbians in the UCC, a church that is gay-friendly.  There wouldn't be half the upset right now if this integral relationship had endured.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-25_12:57:28", "killed": false, "user_key": "blksista", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4626620, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4632414": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Someone raised a point on my blog that \"my lifestyle isn't in danger because I am not gay.\"  All ultra conservative and ultra liberals over policy scares me.    (but if I had a choice, I would like the ultra liberal lol).<br><br>lol<br><br>There is good discussion going on here . . . I don't agree with the post, but there are a lot of great points discussed.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-26_02:02:52", "killed": false, "user_key": "88c5aa2aec2d280958109f85fdd44561", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4597465, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4598326": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I KNOW THAT's right!!<br><br>I will be in the rapture zone and no one will STEAL my JOY <br><br>Either!!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_18:26:09", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4596835, "depth": 2, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4606520": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Your response was thoughtful, however, it was purely academic. It still doesn't answer my question.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_07:34:47", "killed": false, "user_key": "soulsistah02", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 5, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4606459, "depth": 8, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4613695": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "You and your ilk are also taking it personally otherwise why would you keep telling everyone YOUR OPINIONS about your beliefs and whining about the moderators and not being able to disagree and MOVE on? Everyone does not share your interpretations. Are you now going to start telling people unless they believe what you interpret they are not following you God and that's the 'right' God? When poison is introduced you have to cut it off at th head. As I have pointed out numerous times and what you and yours REFUSE to address are the REAL issues destroying the Black community. You just want to be allowed to spread your dissent without being challenged. We all have the right to express ourselves so don't try to censor me either. I will continue to challenge the discourse and point out the animus and racism that comes from whites as well as blacks. Maybe if you weren't so busy throwing stones you'd be humble enough to learn something. I'm very critical of the gay rights industrial complex and white gays on my blog but I will not be silent when I come here and have to scroll through this nonsense. I will not be silent about the hyprocrisy of those who may look like me. If you really cared  about others you'd be doing something abou THAT. But I don't expect any of you to actual do anything the bible says when you get so much joy tearing others down instead of building them up. That's a real ally. You are no ally. You are like the Pharasees who talked a lot about following God, judged people and picking salient things to focus but wouldn't listen to Jesus. But feel free to keep arguing and quoting. Because that's so much more important than living by example.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_14:09:16", "killed": false, "user_key": "heartsandflowers", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4608840, "depth": 11, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4626502": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "No he would not have been Obama's spiritual mentor or minister or whatever. Where have you been? If Obama even had relations with him he would have a problem regardless please.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-25_11:29:42", "killed": false, "user_key": "Rhondacoca", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4606471, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4602953": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Very well HAMMERED to the wall", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_00:45:13", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4602838, "depth": 2, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4598347": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "hehehehe....that's why the gay folk say Gay is the new black...they get black folk treatment and they feel they not suppose to cause they is Whiiiiiiiiiite!!!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_18:28:18", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 8, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4596345, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4601954": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "\"so even obama is only pumping up warren's homohating volume!!!!\"<br><br>LMAO! WTF? Am I on Daily Kos?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_23:11:34", "killed": false, "user_key": "CarolinagirlinGA", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4598167, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4612451": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "He didn't. He chose Rick Warren. Did you think he was kidding when he repeatly talked about unity during his campaign?  PEO is about bringing the country together. I'm for unity. He is PE of all of America!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_13:34:37", "killed": false, "user_key": "Justice58", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 6, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4607703, "depth": 2, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4598628": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I don't like Rick Warren and I was thinking about this the other day: Rarely are people prejudiced and racist about one thing. Rick Warren hates gays and I'm sure a lot of other groups as well.<br><br>I was also wondering when someone would connect the dots regarding Rev. Wright. (Drop the double standard banner here.) Seems as though one can be forgiven when bashing gays but when someone speaks the truth about racism and poverty in this country they immediately get labeled racist and out of touch.<br><br>Just like Bush & Cheney... Rick Warren gets the GASSS FACE!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_18:44:35", "killed": false, "user_key": "islandgirl550", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4597853": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Monie,<br>It's should be called subliminal racism.  Doesnt' mean you are a racist, but you can do racist things without knowing them.  lol.  You raise a very valid point.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_17:55:50", "killed": false, "user_key": "0b26bd94a1d07b59dadc0e6314c90b16", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4597757, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4604231": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "As an African American gay male, I am truly appalled at most of these comments from so-called educated folks.  It just shows the ignorance that still exists within all communities.  Obama made a bad choice with Rick Warren.   As one blogger stated, when someone has an issue with one group you can best believe he has an issue with another group.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_01:32:42", "killed": false, "user_key": "4653c487c7cb10289a1726dfa0010846", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4596835": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Speaking of Barney Frank, if he is so disturbed and hurt, then I think that he should skip the inauguration in protest...then forward me his gallery-seat tickets.<br><br>Rick Warren will not be stealing <b>my joy</b> come January 20th, 12 Noon!<br><i><br>Joy, Joy! G_d's Great Joy!<br>Joy, Joy, down in my soul!<br>Sweet, beautiful, soul saving joy,<br>Oh, joy, joy, in my soul!<br></i>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_16:54:27", "killed": false, "user_key": "Webb", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4596644, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4599399": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I can't be the only one who thnks it's laughable that someone who engaged in sex with under age boys and refuses to condemn the National Association of Man Boy Love, headquartered in MA, whose mission is to make sex with little boys legal, would question PEO's moral compass.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_19:36:25", "killed": false, "user_key": "4fd3ca416b455e03c3fa02c8bc744eb4", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4596835, "depth": 2, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4605545": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "If Warren believes something he shouldn't back-pedal for convenience NOW. He's so transparent in trying to curry favor with the Obama administration and to jockey for 'spiritual leader' props. this just proves he's just as fake and self-serving as most of these tv evangelists and \"evangelicals\". <br><br>Now that he's scrubbing his web sites for obvious animus he's being neutralized by Obama as well. Another nice Ninja move on Obama's part to take the venom out of a snake!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_05:04:30", "killed": false, "user_key": "heartsandflowers", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4600438, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4596842": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Just saw this on the AJC:<br><br>Rick Warren to be main speaker at Ebenezer on King Day<br><br><a href=\"http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/atlanta/stories/2008/12/23/rick_warren_king_day.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/atlanta/...</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_16:54:26", "killed": false, "user_key": "c22bbad359677d681692848d5775fd8b", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4605040": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"It's looking like this invocation is about to spoil the whole f**king inauguration for some people. I guess a whole bunch of us who intended to go to the ceremony will be staying home now.\"<br><br>I'll be damned if I let that fat s.o.b. ruin this inauguration for me! Oh no, I don't think so. NOTHING and NO ONE will ruin this for me. Those who ARE letting him ruin it for them..well that's their choice, and make no mistake people it is a choice! Your sexuality is not a choice....how you react to a preacher giving a two minute invocation...IS a choice.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_03:24:57", "killed": false, "user_key": "356f7e5c5b770a3f931f88144254bfec", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4596644, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4616306": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "On this issue white rose buddy and justice 58 are behaving no better than trolls. Is this the same justice 58 with the avatar of a half-naked woman that you can see on other blogs? You want the space to air your \"religious\" views without any challenge. You continue to engage in dissent under cloak of religious choices that are yours and yours alone. You can only speak for yourself - not for others. Every person who worships \"God\" is not a Christian. Every PERSON WHO CLAIMS TO BE CHRISTIAN DOES NOT WORSHIP GOD. <br><br>WRB, didn't you insist that Susan Taylor owned and sold Essence (years after she'd left the magazine in fact) despite the fact that like 5 people corrected you (that she never owned it), but you still insisted on making your point? <br><br>Your point about gays was made some time ago yet you two keep insisting on inserting it into every thread and comment section related to gays. Why do you feel the need for so much attention?<br><br>You want to silence any who disagree with you which is why you continue to carp about this. <br><br>I have said all that needs to be said and people can look up our profiles to read all comments. <br><br>I will not be silenced and will continue to be actively engaged in matters that are most important to the black community and call it as I see it. The biggest problems Black people face are other Black racist/self-hating/dogmatically selectively religious people.<br><br>You are free to disagree but as as long as you continue your mantra of \"I'm Just Quoting Scripture\" without taking ANY RESPONSIBILITY you are not adding anything to efforts of empowerment or personal responsibility that Black people in the US are going to need if they are to survive. <br><br>Obama will not be 'saving' Black people if it means angering whites to secure his Administration. We are our own worst enemies.<br><br><a href=\"http://snipurl.com/9362c\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://snipurl.com/9362c</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_18:45:52", "killed": false, "user_key": "heartsandflowers", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4600438": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I don't see a double standard. Obama gave Wright a chance with his speech in Philadelphia. One week later Wright blew it. Rick Warren is in the same position. If he hits all the networks and starts making people mad with heated rhetoric, don't you think Obama will have to drop him as well? Instead of doing this, Rick Warren has been making nice with the gay community: meeting with Melissa Etheridge (even asking her to autograph a CD), and hanging out and taking pictures at a local gay thrift store. I suppose Rick Warren has learned the lesson of Jeremiah Wright. Wright could similarly have been rehabilitated if he took the same approach as Warren.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_21:05:45", "killed": false, "user_key": "c056e0dcf6c92c54dfc1b8297d5a0549", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 5, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4616311": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "You explained quite well how I was mad at Wright, but not mad at him. You explained him IN CONTEXT.  But, we must agree this - he kept his mouth shut after that until the election - didn't he?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_18:47:19", "killed": false, "user_key": "rikyrah", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": true, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4608972, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4596345": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Sure there is.  White America is much more likely to forgive Rick Warren for being against the gays than to forgive Jeremiah Wright for being against \"whitey.\"<br><br>Obama knows this.  If he wants to come to white America's party he has to dance to white America's tune.<br><br>So, I wouldn't expect Obama to throw Rick Warren under the bus.  Obama's only going to throw Warren under the bus if enough white Americans get upset about it and right now the only people upset about it are gays and those who are gay friendly.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_16:30:15", "killed": false, "user_key": "Town", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 9, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4626554": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Your an idiot! I am happy that you are happy that black women to this day ave never, ever, ever been able to speak about the pervasive and ugly sexism that is detrimental to our everyday lives.<br><br>This is too funny. I just wrote a long post about this.<br><br>Obama said over and over during is campiagn that their was a fierce urgency of now and whats the other one, \"not this time\" however he has no problem with the fierce urgency of later and saying \"not this time\" to black people. <br><br>Also, putting those four men all lumped together, in the same sentence tells me that you know little to nothing outside of what the white mainstream media has told your docile behind.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-25_11:36:05", "killed": false, "user_key": "Rhondacoca", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4606429, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4606591": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "How do I go from taking something personal to be academic? I certainly don't view the demise of people as clinical research. Having a reality check does require being precise and clear headed. And those problems I listed are deadly and soul killing. They should be the focus of outrage and until they are people will continue to be a liability to themselves and others.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_06:48:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "heartsandflowers", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 4, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4606520, "depth": 9, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4615296": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Warren and other fundamentalist can not make any law that is based on religion, true. However, they can mount a secular argument that many people may support whether they have the same religious faith or not.  <br><br>Warren is allowed as a citizen along with all his parishoners to mount any campaign they choose about an issue, just as the catholic church does on abortion. Tax exempt status does not say the members of a church cannot agree to become politically active on an issue. Tax exempt status is conferred because the government has no right to regulate religion. We are a religious free country and I am certain you know the history of that and why.<br><br>While you do not believe there is a secular basis for opposing same gender marriage, many others disagree.<br><br>Most disagree on the basis of family and that not being a model that society wants to encourage. The institution of marriage was granted benefits by the state and government as an incentive for them to relinquish the rights they had to the INDIVIDUAL pursuit of happiness and liberty. Marriage is viewed by the state as a constraint on sexual conduct and personal liberty.<br><br>Same gender sex marriage offers no benefit to the government in terms of a role model the vast majority of society want to perpetuate and same gender marriages are based on anything but the relinquishing of individual personal pursuit of happiness. Rather it is reveling in the individual sexual desire of the partnership as it is the sexual conduct of the individual that is claimed as their commonality that warrants them being a special interest group.<br><br>That is the secular basis that many oppose same gender sex.<br><br>There is no such thing as equality from a secular viewpoint as all individuals in the society are free to marry the opposite gender. Not to do so is their choice and marrying the same gender does not benefit the state.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_17:32:35", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4614501, "depth": 6, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4615810": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "The left is so pissed about Warren's position on gay marriage. Don't folks recall in the debates,  Biden said in the VP debate that him and Obama are  against gay marriage.<br><br>It seems they agree on that issue.<br><br>So, let's move this discussion to another level. Beyond the gay hysteria and focus on what Obama is doing here and how it is a powerful political move.<br><br>Something else to know about why folks respect Rick Warren.<br><br>He's dedicated a lot of life and resources to helping the poor and the sick. He's donated 90% of his book royalties. He paid back his church for the last 25 years of his minister's salary. He's definately conservative and on the right, but he's hardly extreme.<br><br><br><br>Warren is a leader of the evangelical movement where the focus is on the poor, AIDS, global warming. Taking the focus away from abortions, gay marriage within the evangelical community. On these issues, the evangelical community is more in tune with the Democrats and Obama . This leadership is what I think Obama is trying to gain from Warren within his community and I think that he is advancing the poor and middle class agenda by doing so<br><br>.All those people demanding respect need to open up their hearts and be as tolerant of Warren as they want others to be of them.<br><br>Obama has a plan. His plan is to advance the cause of the poor and the middle class. He is a brilliant strategist and he realizes that the right and the capitalists made an unholy alliance with the evangelicals to gain political power.  The evangelicals have more in common with Democrats adn Obama intends to create a solidarity of leadership on those issues and Democrats will be in power for decades to come.<br><br>This will empower the masses and bring great hope and advancement to our country.<br><br>Obama is going to effectively break the GOP grip on the evangelical right.<br><br>He is a master ...sit back and watch him work on our COMMON INTERESTS which will lift us all up.<br><br>At this point in the year...can't you appreciate the real beauty of this!!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_18:24:46", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4605063": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "EXACTLY! Cuz at the end of the day...they're still WHITE. And how dare that n***do us like that? He must have forgotten that we MADE HIM...he'd better learn his place...(how much you wanna bet that's how a lot of white gay people feel right now)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_03:29:12", "killed": false, "user_key": "356f7e5c5b770a3f931f88144254bfec", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 7, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4598347, "depth": 2, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4604553": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Nope I like to correctly identify behavior. If one uses the bible to appropriate moral superiority of one's viewpoint over others one is a bible basher against that person. Note my use of slavery justification as an example. I wasn't refering to you personally.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_01:08:11", "killed": false, "user_key": "heartsandflowers", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 8, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4604364, "depth": 5, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4615307": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "From my perspective. Obama didn't throw Rev. Wright under the bus. It was Rev. Wright who threw Obama under the bus when he decided to show out at the Press Club function. <br><br>With that said. I'm looking forward to Jan. 20th 2009 and NO ONE will steal my joy.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_17:32:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "Sepia", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 4, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4598412": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Hey Alicia,<br><br>Don't fault Barack for Rick Warren speaking at Ebenezer on MLK Day.  Bernice King (MLK's Daughter) probably invited him since she too is so offended by gay marriage.  <br><br>As a matter of fact, Bernice King and Eddie Long(New Birth) were so \"afraid\" of gay marriage, that they led a march in downtown Atlanta about the subject and...dayum near proclaimed that they were voting for George W. Bush because of it...(imho, selling(sold) their souls to Satan himself).<br><br>That's partly why when I see people on JJP lolly-gagging about Caroline Kennedy, I only have to think about Bernice King and MLK III.  If you follow the logic of political dynasties and \"royal bloodlines,\" then half the people on JJP should be offended that MLKIII won't be taking the oath on Jan 20th.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_18:31:42", "killed": false, "user_key": "Webb", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4598167, "depth": 1, "points": 2, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4601997": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "The funny thing about this issue is it seems to be discussed more on blogs than anywhere. I keep checking The New York times to see if it makes major waves, and it's barely denting as a story. Opinion pieces, sure, but if anything, Cohen's piece illustrates a lot of what is going on here:<br><br>People who never liked, or wanted Obama, and were probably afraid they would never get a chance to dog him again, are jumping up and down to tackle him. It's just the primary's all over again. They must be thrilled.<br><br>When DADT, and DOMA are gone, and when the Matthew Shepard act is passed, what are people on the left going to bitch about then?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_23:13:43", "killed": false, "user_key": "5018fed0ab413b3c89461fe90acac450", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4605072": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "<i> Those that want to quote Old Testament scripture need to follow it. Jesus was the new way so people didn't have to sacrifice animals and all sorts of rituals to get right with God.</i><br><br><br>We're not under the Law. We have a new Covenant. <b>Jesus was the way because there was no other way to redemption.</b> Jesus was the sacrificial lamb of God.<br><br>God's Word is not dependent on whether one believes or not. <br><br>Yes, you're so right about God having compassion. He does. Not only that, but  He is abundant in Mercy and Forgiveness.  If we confess our sins & repent.... He forgives sin!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_03:30:18", "killed": false, "user_key": "Justice58", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 11, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4604770, "depth": 4, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4597906": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I agree with MK's post below...get your story straight...Wright described Obama as a \"politican\" and said Obama will do what a politician has to do.  That's not right.  Obama is also a human being and he has a moral/ethical compass. We have to believe that most of Obama's actions are demonstrative of his ideas and his character, and not political shenanigans.<br><br>The other things is your statement \"And in case y\u2019all forgot, I also said I would be the first to get in Obama\u2019s ass when I see something like this.\"  This is uncalled for.  Obama has stated that there will be times when we disagree with him and for some this may be it, but we need to be patient and learn to pick our fights.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_17:59:16", "killed": false, "user_key": "09203445bf8f02fbebccc76bca0b6e3a", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4599443": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "<b>Alicia was a STAUNCH Hillary supporter</b><br><br>Oh my bad.  Thanks Shazza.  I'm gonna have to check out Clay Cane.  I just recently got hip to the <a href=\"http://www.field-negro.blogspot.com/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Field Negro</a>.  So, i'm playing catch up.<br><br>As for Alicia, I'll leave you with these immortal words from that New Jack Singer Al B. Sure:<br><i><br>Better Get Off On Your Own (Girl)<br>You Better Get Off On Your Own<br>All Alone Girl, Alone Girl<br>Girl, girl, girl.<br></i>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_19:38:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "Webb", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4598804, "depth": 3, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4615828": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "It ain't important, lol   we will chat another day<br><br>I wish you a blessed Christmas as well Lavender...hope that you have wonderful memories to treasure for years to come and that your family is blessed with all the joy the season brings<br><br>Merry Christmas!!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_18:27:19", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4615479, "depth": 8, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4597529": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Oh my God!  Ring the alarm... if black folk and conservative white folks start to unify... danger!  This can't happen! Nooooooooooooo  lol", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_17:34:56", "killed": false, "user_key": "0b26bd94a1d07b59dadc0e6314c90b16", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4596842, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4599454": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "<a href=\"mailto:CTFU!!!!!!.@..visual\" rel=\"nofollow\">CTFU!!!!!!.@..visual</a> image of  your TV levitating in your home,  <br><br>while you try to watch folks on the mall  speaking in tongues<br><br> and JC himself appears!!!<br><br>ROTFLMAO!!!<br><br><br>lord you have me in tears...side aching", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_19:39:25", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4598665, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4605093": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "The sin of pride being one of the first that needs repenting", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_02:35:07", "killed": false, "user_key": "heartsandflowers", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 10, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4605072, "depth": 5, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4613798": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "reply to you at the top of the thread", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_15:18:21", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4613695, "depth": 12, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4605612": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "<i>Nobody said you didn't but that doesn't mean your comments should go without any scrutiny.</i><br><br><br>I never said it or expected it. It's called a debate. Did not Rikyrah state in the open thread....\"Drop those links. Engage in debate. Give us trivia and gossip too\".<br><br><br><i> You state your opinions as facts.</i><br><br><br>They're not my opinions. My opinions don't matter. Opinions are like a nose...everyone has one.<br><br> I don't have my own purpose or an agenda on this board.  I am here for debate & discussion. I've been here long before CPL became a Moderator and I haven't noticed where any Moderator said I was breaking the rule by debating an issue just because you don't like or agree  to what I say.<br><br>I quote what the Scripture says about homosexuality...period! <br><br>It is God's Word...Not mine!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_05:14:17", "killed": false, "user_key": "Justice58", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 5, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4605409, "depth": 10, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4598898": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "The \"negative energy\" is not being raised rightfully though. Christian ministers are called to preach the word of God without compromise. I haven't yet read teachings in the bible that are at all ambiguous about sexuality. So, Rick Warren or any other preacher is not supposed to avoid the issue simply because it's controversial. The stand he takes is actually a mainline Christian view. They are also supposed to be careful not to lead others into activity which will bring about judgment for them. So, be mindful that when a pastor takes a hardline view, especially one that doesn't win him favor, he might just be doing it because he's been convicted by God to take the position and further he might just be doing it because he cares more about peoples' salvation than whether they like him.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_19:03:49", "killed": false, "user_key": "d4786b6ae79ef3a1adc350b7f81febb6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4596644, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4600496": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "That is the Christian way.<br><br>Hate the sin.<br><br>Love the sinner.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_21:12:03", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4600438, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4604082": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"It's looking like this invocation is about to spoil the whole f**king inauguration for some people.\"<br><br>-I am looking forward to seeing Barack Hussein Obama being sworn in as the 44th President of the United States of America.<br><br>Fuck Rick Warren.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_01:14:24", "killed": false, "user_key": "Admiral_Komack", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4596644, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4597427": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "this really makes no sense.  there is so much hype about Black people being the most homophobic group in the nation, so not sure how banking on high Black voter turnout would be encouraging to those who were against Prop 8.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_17:27:52", "killed": false, "user_key": "488e8a8c93b64d13788705482d773f70", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4596930, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4626718": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Lets be real sexism does exist within  the black community as well as in the Civil Rights movement.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-25_11:58:55", "killed": false, "user_key": "faba19c60bc49948a7a5801b50c79fe1", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4626554, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4626620": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I am posting tis again because someone needs to answer me straight:<br><br>Somebody needs to tell me what Jeremiah Wright said at the NPC that was offensive!!!<br><br>Somebody do it because nobody has done it yet which makes those who say it worse than those who call him a racist and cannot back him up.<br><br>What got people upset was his defiant demeanor....thats it because he said nothing different than he did in the Moyers interview in regards to Obama being a politican.<br><br>Mabye he wanted to be thrown under the bus. I think Glen Ford said it best, he drew a line in the sand. Obama likes to have his cake and eat it too and Wright was saying not with me. He refused to play politics....I am happy because I am tired of everyone playing politics. I do not play politics either. I was removed from the Obama campaign office when the whole thing started in March because I dared stand up for the man. All the white people were saying that Obama was going to teach black people that race is no longer an issue. Again, my ass!<br><br>As for the \"More Perfect Union Speech\" any speech on race that makes white people comfy is not a real speech on race.<br><br>He basically framed Wright as backwards and stuck in the past. Please, my ass. That was offensive. That is the only reason why white people were okay with it. He also justified white resentment which is really white racism because resentment is reactionary. <br><br>Black people, be stupid and jump on the bandwagon but don't be mad when you get pushed off next!<br><br>I also am shocked that people failed to hear or even understand the actual speech he made at that event. It was a great speech about the black church, social gospel, change and transformation. I honestly think that it either went over people's heads or people were not home to see it and saw what the media wanted to show the massed because if people actually knew what he was talking about, they may have become to enlightened. <br><br>Whatever. We have a long history of throwing our leaders under the bus when whites denounce them. The same thing happened to MLK at te end of his life. People have selective memory but I do not give a damn,", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-25_11:45:51", "killed": false, "user_key": "Rhondacoca", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4632768": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "It's clear that you have absolutely no understanding of how political relationships work. <br><br>*sighs heavily* <br><br>Special education teacher is not my vocation, and I choose not to make it one tonight. If you want to stew in your own ignorance, then by all means do so. I'm done.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-26_03:09:16", "killed": false, "user_key": "soulsistah02", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4626502, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4596930": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "We have a Democracy!  The gay marriage issue was put on the ballot and the voters said<b> No! </b>The voters also said <b>No</b> to John McCain. <br><br>The LGBT Community thought they could <b>use</b> the high turnout of black voters to get what they wanted and it didn't happen. They gambled and lost!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_16:59:13", "killed": false, "user_key": "Justice58", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4604364": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "You show your own bias w/ that comment. \"Bible Basher\"? Yeah, well, anyway I've said my peace about this.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_01:46:49", "killed": false, "user_key": "CarolinagirlinGA", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 9, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4604277, "depth": 4, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4618443": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Who said anything about money? It's all about POWER.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_19:41:59", "killed": false, "user_key": "Muzikal203", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4616674, "depth": 4, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4599503": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "True, could you imagine what would be going on if he had a gay pastor give the prayer??<br><br><br>Yes, you can....LOL", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_19:42:53", "killed": false, "user_key": "Lilytiger", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4598622, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4604631": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "<i>And it's also funny how nobody seems to quote Jesus - who by the way said not one word about homosexuality - but that goes against this never-ending argument, huh?</i><br><br>Jesus is God!  Whatever the Father said, Jesus said. <br><br>God The Father<br>God The Son<br>God The Holy Spirit<br><br>All are one. Neither contradicts the other. <br><br>Jesus stated in John 10:30....I and my Father are one!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_02:16:13", "killed": false, "user_key": "Justice58", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 13, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4603173, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4597465": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "It's remarkable for me to see so many black bloggers hop on this issue.   I'm not saying that there aren't legitimate black gay issues, because there are, but this is not one of them.<br><br>This is over scrutinized.  During the campaign, the left criticized him for not attacking, for being too moderate, for pandering to the right . . . he proved us all wrong by winning . . . let the man do his job.  Let him appoint folks and build unity the best way that he can b/c the country is hurting.  <br><br>Rick Warren is not over any policy, he is not in the administration - therefore I don't feel as if my lifestyle is in danger, he isn't proposing to federalize prop 8.  <br><br>If we really want to advance gay rights, it does not bode well by attacking the church, black voter, or Obama - quite the contrary - you will contribute to divisiveness and lose precisely the progress of this year and divide the left.  <br><br>Let's keep it real:  Rick Warren is a pastor that holds THE SAME VIEWS as about 95% of other Christian pastors in the country if we want to be intellectually honest.  <br><br>This is a non-issue and simply a symbolic gesture by Obama.  Warren is taking heat from the right wingers too.  We on the left need to understand that we don't have a monopoly on diversity, diversity is also ideology. . . which means it's not always left.  It doesn't mean if someone is conservative that they just don't get it.  It means that, yes, we have to have tolerance for what we deem intolerant.  Now OF COURSE, IF HE APPOINTED WARREN OVER SOME SORT OF POLICY, THIS IS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT STORY.<br><br>Let's move forward and stop worrying about issues like who is praying at the inauguration.  Our country is in great peril and we need unity now more than ever.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_17:29:50", "killed": false, "user_key": "0b26bd94a1d07b59dadc0e6314c90b16", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4597979": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I thought Barack Obama \"threw him under the bus\" (Wright) only after he (Wright) acted the fool at the National Press Club.<br>In this beginning Obama did stand by Wright.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_18:04:34", "killed": false, "user_key": "Admiral_Komack", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4597534, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4613754": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I am appalled that you think Rick Warren is a poor choice.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_15:14:34", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4604231, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4613988": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Heartsandflowers writes:<br>You and your ilk are also taking it personally otherwise why would you keep telling everyone YOUR OPINIONS about your beliefs and whining about the moderators and not being able to disagree and MOVE on? Everyone does not share your interpretations. Are you now going to start telling people unless they believe what you interpret they are not following you God and that's the 'right' God? When poison is introduced you have to cut it off at th head. As I have pointed out numerous times and what you and yours REFUSE to address are the REAL issues destroying the Black community. You just want to be allowed to spread your dissent without being challenged. We all have the right to express ourselves so don't try to censor me either. I will continue to challenge the discourse and point out the animus and racism that comes from whites as well as blacks. Maybe if you weren't so busy throwing stones you'd be humble enough to learn something. I'm very critical of the gay rights industrial complex and white gays on my blog but I will not be silent when I come here and have to scroll through this nonsense. I will not be silent about the hyprocrisy of those who may look like me. If you really cared about others you'd be doing something abou THAT. But I don't expect any of you to actual do anything the bible says when you get so much joy tearing others down instead of building them up. That's a real ally. You are no ally. You are like the Pharasees who talked a lot about following God, judged people and picking salient things to focus but wouldn't listen to Jesus. But feel free to keep arguing and quoting. Because that's so much more important than living by example.<br>------------------<br><br>My ilk?  NO heartsandflowers I am not taking anything personally.  I tell my opinions becasuse this is a discussion board. Why do you tell yours?  I have not whined about any moderators are you mistaking me with another poster?  I move on and agree to disagree when that is warranted. <br><br>Heartsandflowers, I certainly do not expect people to agree with THE interpretations posted and when they don't I expect them to address THE interpretations and not attack posters as you are doing. For whatever reason you are taking this personally and it is not directed at you. The topic is being discussed and debated. Your thoughts are as welcome as anyone elses' but what is unproductive is seemingly a need on your part to put folks in their place about their opinions you do not share.  Why is that?<br><br>Why are you getting your shorts in a knot. Like you said no one has the same interpretaiton so why is it not good enough for you to simply state yours and accept that it TOO is not the only intrepretation. Why are you attacking people? If people all have the same interpretation there would be no debate...everyone would just simply agree.<br><br>I have not once said what anyone should do or believe. That is a personal choice between the individual and god.  However, when religion is the topic and specifically Christianity the tenets of that religion are clear. You do not have to believe it, lots of folks don't.  But when talking about the TOPIC of RELIGION you are taking it as if someone is telling YOU what to do when they are NOT!!  Stating the precepts of a religion does not confer any moral superiority..that is all on you for thinking that. The bible though with regard to the christian faith is clear that homosexuality is a sin. That is what the bible says. You do not have to believe it. You do not have to adhere to it. But what you can't say is that someone is imposing their belief system on you by simply STATING what the christian faith says.<br><br>When a topic is debated it is not tearing down or building anyone up. It is simply stating the principles, concepts and philosophy of that religion or whatever the facts are on the topic at hand. It is not personal.<br><br>So, please don't take offense or beleive anyone is telling you how to live your life or thinking they are morally superior cause I do not and I suspect others don't either. As Justice noted...it is a DEBATE!!  <br><br>I am not refusing to acknowledge any of the real issues confronting the black community. What I am doing is focusing on the issues and topics that CPL raised when she made her intial post.  If you want to go on a different tangent and discuss an entirely different aspect, that's fine. Just don't accuse anyone of ignoring it because they chose to stay focused on the topic of the thread, which was Rick Warren, religion and homosexuality.<br><br>As far as the Pharissees remark. I will reiterate. I am not the topic of the thread. I am not judging anyone one. And I will not engage & bicker with you  because I learned in middle school:<br><br>Small minds talk about people.<br>Average minds talk about events, and.<br>Great minds talk about ideas.<br><br>A debate is about ideas, not the messenger.<br><br><br>Merry Christmas Heartsandflowers...I hope that the seasons brings you many blessings and that your heart is filled with the joy and beauty of its reason.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_15:35:16", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4605670": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "As long as you state scripture as a battering ram expect to be confronted about it and have the hypocrasy of those that also quote and misstate highlighted.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_04:22:07", "killed": false, "user_key": "heartsandflowers", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 4, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4605612, "depth": 11, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4597479": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "The same way gay activists are telling black folks to STFU?<br><br>The same way gay activists are blaming black people for their lack of rights when it has always been straight white people putting these initiatives on the ballot?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_17:30:45", "killed": false, "user_key": "Town", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4597260, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4615913": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "NO.  <br><br>It is a fact of black life, that the larger society finds us invisible.<br><br>My point is that I believe as a black woman that gays who are black are faced with the same choice. We as women learned we were not valued by feminist and they did not truly care about how our lives had greater complexity.  Which meant there was no since in touting their agenda as it was not worth the time or effort, when we were still going to be BLACK.<br><br>At the end of the day, race trumped gender. I think that black gays have not reached that point yet.<br><br>Which is to say when they talk about the feminist movement I disengage. Maybe, at some point black homosexuals will realize that as well. Because there is a lot of racism in the gay community just as their is in the society at large.  Being black and gay is not important to the gay political agenda.<br><br>To me you are a black person and gay is something you do..but being black is who you are.<br><br>Blacks are never invisible to other blacks. No matter what their choices are. The black community embraces all. Always has.<br><br>Merry Christmas Lennyhate!!<br><br>I wish you a blessed and wonderful Christmas.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_18:34:22", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4615845, "depth": 6, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4597486": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Perhaps the Gays can offer up Shirley Q. Liquor to give the invocation. And Town, you are sooo correct!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_17:31:45", "killed": false, "user_key": "f1ebafd5fc64d802635b54d4d3963341", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4605167": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Heartsandflowers,<br><br>I am only quoting God's Word. I am not above anyone. I'm certainly not perfect.....and a long way from being perfect.  Nor will I be until I meet my Heavenly Father. I sin. This is why I confess my sin before God and ask for forgiveness.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_03:51:32", "killed": false, "user_key": "Justice58", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 9, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4605093, "depth": 6, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4614896": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "You got that right!  At this point, I want people to calm the fuck down and get a grip.  Nearly ever blog I've been to that, up to the election, seemed to be written by level-headed people has devolved into the kind of reactionary, childish handwringing the likes of which I haven't seen since I didn't get that Battlestar Galactica Colonial Viper...when I was seven years old.  <br><br>For the record, I think Warren is a fatuous gasbag who's been given far more importance than he deserves or warrants.  But then, I think that about nearly EVERY preacher--especially if he has a megagoogogoloplexchurch.  However, I see (or think I see) the strategy that Obama's employing here--keep your friends close, but keep the enemies closer. Of course, I could be wrong here.  At any rate, Obama's not appointing the fool to a Cabinet level position, so Warren's invocation to the imaginary sky friend doesn't faze me one fucking way or the other.  Hell, Paris Hilton could do it, and I wouldn't give a damn.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_16:55:26", "killed": false, "user_key": "5e2b33c435c317e69152caba2b39bad6", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4598665, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4615415": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "AMEN!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_17:45:49", "killed": false, "user_key": "Sepia", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4600823, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4628216": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Rhon,<br>With all due respect, your thinking and perceptions about Wright are far outside mainstream.<br><br> As for what Wright said at the NPC, it was not what he said , it was how he said it. Wright is stuck in another era when it comes to race relations. While I can empathize with that and understand how his times shaped him, we have to move forward and working from Wright's paradigm on race relations is not progressive.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-25_15:39:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4626620, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4616441": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I'm not sure that i understand.  I should reject the gay movement, because the wider community considers me invisible?  while there are definitely issues that need to be resolved in the gay community, the fight for gay rights directly affects me, and therefore, i should participate.  I would never reject my african-american community--as if i could--due to it's homophobia (a fact of which you seem to gloss over).  <br><br>i call attention to the fact of gay blacks, because it seems as if their existence is invisible to many commenters on this site.  i'm a black gay male, and obama's pick of rick warren was disturbing.  <br><br>and a happy holidays to you, whiterosebuddy.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_19:00:26", "killed": false, "user_key": "e1b3155f9cf4abe9531b70e380ae7c60", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4615913, "depth": 7, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4614396": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "WE have separation of church and state in terms of our legislative body. Separation of church and state does not mean there is no religion in matters governing state. All you have to do is read the founding documents or US Constitution or look on our money...'in god we trust'...separation means that we cannot impose our religious beliefs on others. Obama is not imposing his beliefs, but yet and instill each and every politician is sworn to uphold the Constitution by swearing on a book of faith, bible or koran.<br><br>As Obama so eloquently explained, we cannot make changes in the law based on religion. If you feel strongly about an issue it must have a rational secular basis to even be considered for governmental policy or legislation. Your argument for it can not be based on religious tenets rather it must have reasoning without religious beliefs.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_16:11:24", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 4, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4613936, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4619005": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "there's cold comfort in the fact that the reasoning behind my not being able to serve in the military or get married is due to my homosexuality and not my blackness.  i find issue with Warren's comparison of women who receive abortions to nazi's; his comparison of pro-choicers to holocaust deniers; his call for the assassination of the president of iran; his belief that jews wills go to hell; his belief that women should submit to men;  his comparison of homosexuality to pedophilia and incest.  Why shouldn't I be angry at his being picked to give the convocation?<br><br>My supporting Obama, despite his views on gay marriage, is the definition of disagreeing without being disagreeable.  That said, the president-elect is not above reproach.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_20:39:47", "killed": false, "user_key": "e1b3155f9cf4abe9531b70e380ae7c60", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4598532": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I'm going to have  a response to this up tomorrow if you want to check it out CPL. I've got some issues with some of your points.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_18:38:13", "killed": false, "user_key": "708ead3dff706cb871012a39aff847ed", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4626390": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Thank You!<br><br>I was saying this from last week, last week....it is te reason why I am mad in the first place.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-25_11:12:13", "killed": false, "user_key": "Rhondacoca", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4619016": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I understand.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_20:40:51", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4618675, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4619018": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "sorry, for some reason my posts jumped to the top of the page.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_20:41:15", "killed": false, "user_key": "e1b3155f9cf4abe9531b70e380ae7c60", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4616575, "depth": 9, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4607703": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Which means he could have chosen from the 5% who don't. Or he could have chosen a cleric from another religion.   Or, better yet, don't have a religious invocation at all. Do we or do we not have separation of church and state?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_09:34:12", "killed": false, "user_key": "d8ba2b0b29836b2e779d25f29e6b86ea", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 7, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4602802, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4616464": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Actually what is going on here is that posters are expressing views for and against the christian religion and asserting what is wrong with Warren. That is eliciting opposing responses. That you seem to be unable to handle and are now resorting to calling folks trolls.  If you think posters are trolls surely you know what to do right?  I will be happy to treat you the same.<br><br>Now as far as<br><br><br>Heartsandflowers writes:<br>\"You continue to engage in dissent under cloak of religious choices that are yours and yours alone. You can only speak for yourself - not for others\"<br><br>Um, who in the world are you presuming anyone is speaking for other than themselves. Do you think you speak for a group or others..is that why you are laboring under false assumptions?<br><br>While it is true that every person who worships God is not a Christian...for you to say this:<br>\"Every PERSON WHO CLAIMS TO BE CHRISTIAN DOES NOT WORSHIP GOD. \"<br><br>Means you have no grasp of the Christian religion and perhaps that accounts for your utterally defensive responses which are not making any sense. You are engaging in attacking people perhaps becasue you simply do not understand Christianity as a religion.  Cause your statements are not making sense.  For the record all Christians do worship God.<br><br>HAF says:<br>\"Your point was made some time ago yet you two keep insisting on inserting it into every thread and comment section related to gays.\"<br><br>Why do you make up stuff. The thread topic determines what is stated. You get to scroll past it, if you don't want to read it. If someone links to the topic on a thread, it is discussed. A very simply thing.  The daily threads say, drop the links, debate etc. Are you under some other understanding?<br><br>\"You want to silence any who disagree with you which is why you continue to carp about this. \"<br><br>huh? where are you getting these out of left field statements. Geez.<br>I do not try to silence anyone. I welcome the debate and discussion. So again you are coming up with blatantly false commentary.  No one is carping other than you. There are many many people on the site who agree with your views and in fact, mine voice is a minority on the site. Most everyone on the site supports gay marriage like you.  So, you are in no way being silenced. <br><br>then you say:<br>\"You are free to disagree but as as long as you continue your mantra of \"I'm Just Quoting Scripture\" without taking ANY RESPONSIBILITY you are not adding anything to efforts of empowerment or personal responsibility that Black people in the US are going to need if they are to survive.\"<br><br><br>Heartsandflowers, no one who posts has to have your objective of empowering anything or anyone nor do they need to take any responsibility for your need to do so.  Those are your beliefs and you are entitled to them...just don't try to hijack a thread on that premise cause it is not the topic nor the goal of the discussion. <br><br>It seems you are your own worst enemy with your assumptions, conjecture and speculations on what others intent, motivations and objectives are. Try not to project those onto other posters and you may find that no one is aiming anything at you personally or carping as you have with other posters.<br><br>Merry Christmas!", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_19:03:51", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4616306, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4602136": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Aron said:<br><br>\"Christian ministers are called to preach the word of God without compromise. I haven't yet read teachings in the bible that are at all ambiguous about sexuality. So, Rick Warren or any other preacher is not supposed to avoid the issue simply because it's controversial. The stand he takes is actually a mainline Christian view. They are also supposed to be careful not to lead others into activity which will bring about judgment for them. So, be mindful that when a pastor takes a hardline view, especially one that doesn't win him favor, he might just be doing it because he's been convicted by God to take the position and further he might just be doing it because he cares more about peoples' salvation than whether they like him.\"<br><br>You make a valid point, but then this puts the argument back on the church and the bible and I don't think anybody wants to go there. If a pastor says that homosexuality is a sin b/c that's what's in the bible, he is deemed a bigot. Don't be mad at him, he's just the messenger. Be mad at the message. LOL. I think I should have left that alone.<br><br>Oh yeah, about Rick Warren and Jeremiah Wright. Strawberries and bananas (I'm sick of saying apples and oranges) and two VERY different sets of cicumstances. Unless Rick Warren holds a conference and starts saying stuff like, \"Straight people clap like this, y'all..... And gay people clap like this y'all.\"<br><br>I think he'll be okay to give a prayer. Which is what an invocation is right? A prayer? I may need to go look that up again.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_23:26:58", "killed": false, "user_key": "CarolinagirlinGA", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 30, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4616473": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Actually, Obama distanced himself from Wright even before he made the announcement. Rev. Wright was supposed to give the invocation, and Obama dis-invited him because he felt he would be too controversial. I think it's fair to compare this situation to Rev. Wright's and ask if there is indeed a double standard here, I think there is. Sure Obama doesn't agree with everything Warren said, he didn't agree with everything Wright said either.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_19:03:58", "killed": false, "user_key": "Muzikal203", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4615307, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4604186": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Umm.. yeah. That's why I really don't go to church that much. Duh! The point is not to get mad at religious people, but at the religion, because that's where these beliefs originate. But all that does is cause trouble. No one wants to go after the religion. Gay people can marry whoever the hell they want. I don't care. Just like I don't care about Rick fucking Warren saying a fucking prayer.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_01:27:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "CarolinagirlinGA", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 11, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4603173, "depth": 2, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4597534": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Truly amazing!  I am a member of Trinity and have been for 15 years. Rev. Wright was my pastor.  You write about Barack \"throwing him under the bus\" and yet you conveniently FORGET that he first stood by him in March.  It wasn't until Rev. Wright reappeared and acted like a fool that Barack broke his ties with him.  Get the history straight.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_17:35:07", "killed": false, "user_key": "f448a8936c8430e9850c14c823343f00", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 4, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 3, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4603168": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "CPL:<br><br>   Posts like this is why I've come to Love you!", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_01:04:33", "killed": false, "user_key": "f9aaa8acc43fd7620185ff90cef3c05a", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4602802, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4604194": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Co-Sign!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_01:27:51", "killed": false, "user_key": "Justice58", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4597906, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4605732": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "If you're against the Scripture...Take it up with God. Furthermore, I <b>ain't</b> never been afraid of confrontation.  One can expect that in a debate. The Scripture is what it is. I dare not add nor take away.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_05:32:59", "killed": false, "user_key": "Justice58", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4605670, "depth": 12, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4603173": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Of course if you want to quote the Jewish laws (like in Leviticus) in the Old Testament you should be following ALL of them not just the ones you'd want to use to make a point. There's more than 600. <br><br>And it's also funny how nobody seems to quote Jesus - who by the way said not one word about homosexuality - but that goes against this never-ending argument, huh?<br><br>You can follow a list of do's and don'ts which are bound to be broken and becomes the sole focus of being \"religious\" and has nothing to do with loving God but about following dogma. Or you can have a moral compass and \"love your neighbor as yourself\".  <br><br>Notice not one word about everybody doing the same thing, acting the same way, but loving people who tend to be hateful and judgmental. <br><br>Black people had better remember all of this religious grandstanding and fake moralizing can be turned on a dime against us as it has been in the past, like when you couldn't argue with white people about why enslaving our ancestors was written in the Bible too.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_01:06:06", "killed": false, "user_key": "heartsandflowers", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 26, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4602136, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4616491": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I still think Rev. Wright did that on purpose to force Obama to distance himself, note how after that situation we never heard from him again. If he was really trying to make trouble for Obama as some people alleged, he would have been all over the place.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_19:06:09", "killed": false, "user_key": "Muzikal203", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4616175, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4600108": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "And while Rome burns, we debate about who will offer a 120-second prayer on inauguration day. Wow...", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_20:32:21", "killed": false, "user_key": "soulsistah02", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4627758": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Remember that Rev. Wright told PEO that he (Obama) would have to distance himself from him (Wright). After PEO announced his presidential run, Obama apologized to Rev Wright and Wright said it was OK and called out the NY Times for trying to start a war between Wright and Obama. But folks seem to forget that.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-25_14:41:28", "killed": false, "user_key": "Sepia", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4616473, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4604381": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Edited.  (See comment below.)", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_01:48:25", "killed": false, "user_key": "mjohnso27", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4613936": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I'm for separation of church and state. We do not live in a christian country and I see no reason on earth why we need to have our inaugural events include two christian clerics, or clerics of any religion, no matter what their politics.<br><br>I know it's tradition. I'm just saying...maybe that could change someday soon. And as long as I'm wishing, I wish that g*d would be taken out of the pledge of allegiance. We don't have to pushback against heathen commies anymore.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_15:30:05", "killed": false, "user_key": "d8ba2b0b29836b2e779d25f29e6b86ea", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 5, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4612451, "depth": 3, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4608306": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "yes to your comment about the women pioneers, and by the way, it's still two men offering the prayers and no one is saying boo about that.  where are our powerful women preachers.  if you look on warren's website, he preaches that women should be subservient to men.  just saying. . .", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_10:26:21", "killed": false, "user_key": "zackboston", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4604402, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4615479": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "WhiteRose, you've lost me here. Maybe I'm just fatigued after a long day at work.<br><br>Anyway, I wish you and yours a joyous Christmas.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_17:52:11", "killed": false, "user_key": "d8ba2b0b29836b2e779d25f29e6b86ea", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4615296, "depth": 7, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4604221": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Say it, Monie!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_01:32:07", "killed": false, "user_key": "Justice58", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4597757, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4632715": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Rhondacoca:<br><br>It is clear that you can rant, but it seems that your reading comprehension could use a little work. If you re-read my post you'd clearly see that I denounce and reject sexual oppression in the Black community. Now the manner in which I organized my post may be a little above your associate's degree from whatever technical college or trade school that you attended, but I have a pesky habit of assuming that JJP readers are reasonably intelligent and would \"get it.\" However, you helped me to realize that there are some that are less cerebral. So in the spirit of fairness, let me dilute my post and make it easier for you to read and digest:<br><br>See Wright. See Wright make a fool of himself at the National Press Club. See Obama say that Wright made him sad. See Black people say that Wright made them sad and put him on timeout. See Civil Rights leaders make Black women be quiet \"for the sake of the movement.\" See Soulsistah02 very sad about Black women going to the timeout corner. See Soulsistah02 happy now because Black men are being put in the timeout corner so that Black people can help Mr. Barack and Ms. Michelle go to the White House. <br><br>If the above explanation is still too intellectually rigorous, I'll purchase the coloring book for you.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-26_02:56:32", "killed": false, "user_key": "soulsistah02", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4626554, "depth": 3, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4601156": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "CPL - I knew you authored  this post! And thank you. I know some people will get the vapors over this but it needs to be said. I know that Obama got more votes from white Evangelicals than white gays so I see he is pandering to some of those who voted for him. I say some because I don't see him bending over backwards (and suffering a public outcry) over helping with \"Black people's issues\". I'll put it in quotes because a lot of things that would benefit the Black community (working class/middle class) would help everyone, but there is a particular need that hasn't been addressed really since Nixon was in office of all Presidents. He used the term Black capitalism and didn't put up roadblocks to Black ownership of radio and newspapers. Then he got the boot and along came Reagan with his welfare queen triangulation to get white voters. Even Clinton for all the rah rahs he got didn't do that much policy wise. So I am certain Obama won't be as neglectful as either Bush, but he may only do slightly better than Clinton in the end. I'm not expecting some grand gesture - perhaps half-way into his 2nd term if he gets there.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_22:08:27", "killed": false, "user_key": "heartsandflowers", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4599111": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Billy Graham was caught ON TAPE talking to Richard Nixon making racist and anti-semitic statements, but that didn't prevent him from becoming \"America's Preacher\".  That's the damn double standard: that white presidents can associate with known racists and homophobes and you hear nothing but cricketts.  The same Clinton LGBT defenders like Hillary Rosen who stood by Clinton after 'Don't Ask Don't Tell' and silent indifference to their community now want to \"get in PEO's ass\"?!  Please!  They can kiss his Black ass is what they can do!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_19:17:31", "killed": false, "user_key": "4fd3ca416b455e03c3fa02c8bc744eb4", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4597757, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4608840": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "The issue here hersandflowers is that you are taking the debate PERSONALLY.  You are confronting people about their beliefs when their beliefs are not at issue.<br><br>The topic is christianity and homosexuality.  That means that religion will be discussed. It does not mean that posters should be attacked under the guise of 'scrutiny'  It does mean that you should be able to engage in the discourse by knowing what religion says about homosexuality.<br><br>No one has to meet your scrutiny or personal criteria. Rather, the topic is to be discussed. That does not require you challenging posters at all. If you choose to counter an assertion it should focus on religion or homosexuality not the poster.<br><br>As soulsista said this hits some PERSONAL nerve of yours which is not at ALL the topic. No one is telling YOU how to live your life.<br><br>What folks are doing is saying any individual homosexual or not who chooses not to follow the Christian tenet should not try and attack the church or the tenets of the religion as a means to demand any rights.<br><br>Warren is right as a Christian who beliefs in those tenets to respond as he has. In fact, under the tenets of the religion he is obligated to respond in that manner.<br><br>And all anyone here has done is point that out and correlate it with the hypocrisy of homosexuals who want to claim the faith but yet reject it's tenets, because they do not want to be accountable for their sinful ways as defined by Christianity.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_11:09:10", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4606591, "depth": 10, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4612938": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Great<br><br>replies<br><br>Justice!", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_14:08:47", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4605835, "depth": 15, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4624183": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Heartsand flowers,<br><br>Do you not understand the definition of debate? What is so hard to understand....<b>\"Drop those links. Engage in debate. Give us trivia and gossip too\".</b><br><br>Debate: a discussion, as of a public question in an assembly, involving opposing viewpoints! Duh!<br><br>You don't have to respond to my posts, you can ignore them and keep it moving.  You've accused WRB & I of trying to silence you....nice try tho..but you're the one that is guilty of that. I'm on to you.  I am debating & discussing whatever issue is presented on each particular thread.  If you can't handle debate...then don't engage!<br><br>For the record...I wouldn't waste my energy crawling your profile! You really have some  serious issues!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-25_03:37:02", "killed": false, "user_key": "Justice58", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4616528": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "And THAT is what I can't stand about Rick Warren. He seems like a bullshit salesman, and a lot of people are willing to buy it because \"he must be a good guy since he sold all of those books and Obama likes him.\" Rick Warren is dishonest, and he's only out for SELF. Sure, he does some good things, but that's because there are very few people on this earth who are just plain evil. But he's very dishonest, and he'd throw Obama under a bus as soon as it is politically expedient. He's a politician in the pulpit, and nothing more.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_19:11:59", "killed": false, "user_key": "Muzikal203", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4605545, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4605777": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "And I will continue to challenge you and anyone else who SELECTIVELY chooses what you state and claim it's about following scripture that you take out of context. I have yet to hear anything about the actions of anyone else in equal measure.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_04:40:06", "killed": false, "user_key": "heartsandflowers", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4605732, "depth": 13, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4605266": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Because reading something out loud or in this case hijacking every thread with your animus under cloak of religiosity and ignoring the LESSONS and GUIDEPOSTS given gets you off the hook. Like white people who enslaved, beat, raped, bred and separated Black people by QUOTING GOD'S WORD TOO means whoever decides to do it is justified with no room for critical thinking and perspective. Or real learning!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_04:11:59", "killed": false, "user_key": "heartsandflowers", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 8, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4605167, "depth": 7, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4614488": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "It saddens me too tgram. I feel your deep disappointment and know what pride it would have been in our hearts to see that visual.<br><br>Especially Wright, as he has attended to more Presidents than any ministerin history. He was at LBJ's bedside when he had surgery, he was in the Rose Garden with Reagan when he & Jesse brought back RonGoodman from Syria and he was with Clinton when he had everyone at the WH to pray on his stupid oval office shenanigans.  So, it would have been a real feather for Wright to swear in the first AA President.<br><br>It is such a sad thing that the man who Obama  has shared the most spiritual fellowship with will not be there after marrying him and christening his girls. Really sad. I am sure Michelle misses Wright too.<br><br>Our people our people and the price of the struggle.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_16:20:31", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4600705, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4611931": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "They are jumping up and down. This validates their theories that Obama is as bad a Bush.<br><br>What a load of crap.<br><br>Keep enrolling the young and minority peoples of this country and we can watch them in our rear view mirror.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_13:07:26", "killed": false, "user_key": "Lilytiger", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4601997, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4598622": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Look,<br><br>In all fairness, whoever President ELECT Obama picked for the inaguation program was going to be a problem.  Why?  Because everyone in America can put input regarding their opinion into an insignificant issue such as a 2 minute prayer.  The true star of the day will be the President Elect who happens to be the only president in American history who has openly acknowledged himself to be BLACK and the only president in America history who received such a historical number of ELECTORAL votes.<br><br>The country has REAL issues: the economy, education, the wars, home foreclosure.  I personally do not care about the opinions of Rev. Warren or Rev. Wright.  Americans place too much emphasize on pastors who are in the BUSINESS  of ministry versus those who are in the MINISTRY of taking care of the people's business.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_18:43:50", "killed": false, "user_key": "e1331a7f71455e62785aba36277d4169", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4602000": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"The same way gay activists are blaming black people for their lack of rights when it has always been straight white people putting these initiatives on the ballot?\"<br><br>Uh-uh, Town. You can't say that. It makes too much sense.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_23:15:21", "killed": false, "user_key": "CarolinagirlinGA", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4597479, "depth": 2, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4604770": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Exactly! The Old Testament was proceeded by the New Testament as well which brings me back to my point. Those that want to quote Old Testament scripture need to follow it. Jesus was the new way so people didn't have to sacrifice animals and all sorts of rituals to get right with God. By the way not every Christian believes in the Trinity either. And Catholics don't follow the Hebrew bible but have their own. So if you want to argue who's the 'most Christian of them all' go right ahead. It starts to get a bit ridiculous when it has been made obvious everyone doesn't believe the same thing but some people want to claim their way is the 'right' way and the ONLY way. God has more compassion than most people who claim to be speaking with authority about   she/he/it!!!!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_01:38:06", "killed": false, "user_key": "heartsandflowers", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 12, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4604631, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4616547": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "\"Warren seems harmless\"<br><br>And that's the problem, because he's NOT harmless.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_19:13:47", "killed": false, "user_key": "Muzikal203", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4600199, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4604260": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I couldn't agree more!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_01:35:11", "killed": false, "user_key": "Justice58", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4599271, "depth": 2, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4614501": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Following this logic, Rick Warren's and other fundamentalist's religious issues with homosexuality and  Gay Marriage should not interfere with law making. Yet he and other evangelicals continue to work to change or create laws based on their religious beliefs and they still get their tax exempt status. Hmmm.<br><br>There is no rational secular basis for denying marriage equality.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_16:22:58", "killed": false, "user_key": "d8ba2b0b29836b2e779d25f29e6b86ea", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4614396, "depth": 5, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4602729": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "AMEN!  Say That!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_00:24:28", "killed": false, "user_key": "Justice58", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4598898, "depth": 2, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4616560": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Well, they are having a Black pastor  who is pretty much the exact OPPOSITE of Warren do the benediction, that's supposed to appease everyone (per their talking points).", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_19:15:08", "killed": false, "user_key": "Muzikal203", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4600705, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4599153": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Co-sign", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_19:20:28", "killed": false, "user_key": "faba19c60bc49948a7a5801b50c79fe1", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4597534, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4604277": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Ok I thought I was dealing with another Bible Basher. People just don't want to admit their beliefs are not based on their own study, comparisons and investigations but from listening to what some self professed \"authority\" approximator says. Who's usually a liar anyway.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_00:37:11", "killed": false, "user_key": "heartsandflowers", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 10, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4604186, "depth": 3, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4614518": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Piggybacking off of that...Heartsand flowers.... I am <b>not</b> trying to box the Moderators in a corner! Are you kidding me? I made that statement about the Moderators because You, Heartsand flowers, accused me of hi-jacking a thread. Don't make this thread about me. It's a debate!  My discussion was within the Topic. My discussion is not directed at you or anyone else personally. No one is trying to force anything upon anyone. God is a respectful God. He has given man a free will to choose. <br><br>Furthermore, you  stated : <i> \"But I don't expect any of you to actual do anything the bible says when you get so much joy tearing others down instead of building them up.\"</i><br><br>You don't know me so don't act like you do!  You don't know anything about my life, so just stop. This is not about Justice58's life!  Stop making this thread about me!<br><br>I mentioned the Moderator CPL simply because she is author of the article!<br><br>But just so you know.~ I happen to like CPL. She can be a riot sometimes. I think she writes great articles. I may not agree with all of her point of view but she isn't disrespectful of other people's views & beliefs.  You...Not so much!<br>I remember you from months ago at Field Negro Blog. You were disrespectful there so it does not surprise me that you'd be disrespectful here!<br><br>Toodles!", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_16:24:40", "killed": false, "user_key": "Justice58", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4613988, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4602943": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "AHA! <br><br>caught you..<br><br>.understanding the messenger ain't the message will get you in serious trouble around here!!!<br><br>lol lol....", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_00:43:17", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4602136, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4604125": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Major Eye Roll!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_01:18:44", "killed": false, "user_key": "Justice58", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4598167, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4616575": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "NO, it is not the wider community but the gay community that considers black gays invisible. That type of stature requires choices. White feminists ignore the challenges of black females a good majority  of us ignore the feminists.<br><br>While the fight for feminists rights can impact my life. It does not impact my life as much as race which is ignored as part of the feminist movement. Ergo, I ignore the feminist movement. Knowing full well that whatever is granted to the white entitled female will be of benefit to me whether I invest my energy or not.<br><br>White entitlement makes me sit on the sidelines and not engage white feminists.<br><br>I focus my energy on causes that impact the black community as that has far greater impact on my life and brings far more significant change.<br><br>Warren is not disturbing to me because of all that he has done for the poor and AIDS. Warren and Obama have far more in common than not. More importantly what they have in common will uplift the poor and middle class. So, I will focus on that recognizing that Obama is coopting leadership from a very powerful group to use with his own Presidential power to create a better nation.<br><br>Obama opposes gay marriage just like Warren but Obama also supports a full repeal of DOMA and he supports civil unions and since he is the President.<br><br>I feel confident about his choices.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_19:15:18", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4616441, "depth": 8, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4600705": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Well said, and this is a safe move by Obama.  <br><br>I couldn't put my finger on it but the part about Rev. Wright being \"a bit more self aggrandizing than he should\" is just it.  Some people fail to understand the powerful impact of Obama having someone like Rev. Wright by his side for this new adventure .  I think Obama and many in Chicago believed that would be the case in 2007 \u2013 the case that Wright would be with him all the way.  Knowing how bad the country is screwed up right now, who among us would not want our pastor\u2019s blessing before heading into the White House? (oh, please get the oil and lay hands on me)<br><br>It saddens me that our first black president will not have his black pastor stand next to him at the inauguration.  Whose fault is it? I don\u2019t care. Neither Rev. Jackson nor Rev. Wright will have that honor and it\u2019s just sad\u2026", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_21:32:18", "killed": false, "user_key": "09203445bf8f02fbebccc76bca0b6e3a", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4600199, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4612998": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "you people do realize that there are gay black people, right?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_14:13:07", "killed": false, "user_key": "e1b3155f9cf4abe9531b70e380ae7c60", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 6, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4605063, "depth": 3, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4600199": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "There's enough hypocrisy to go around--and yes Rev. W has been treated differently, and very unfairly.   My problem with Reverend Wright is that he might be a bit more self aggrandizing than he should.  Other than that, I have been heartened by his speaking out against war and racism. <br><br>Warren represents many of the folks that did not vote for Obama--but these are US citizens as well, and I think Obama takes seriously the notion that he will be president of all the people in the US.  <br><br>Also, this is excellent politics--and, aside from being inclined toward social justice, Obama is an adept politician.  He plays the game well.  <br><br>With the problems that this nation faces, it only makes sense that Obama try to establish good will so that he can maximize his political capital. <br><br>Now, if Obama invited David Duke, then I would be nervous.  Warren seems pretty harmless.  For sure, he is a bit of a ham and an opprotunist, but I think he genuinely wishes good will toward most everyone.  <br><br>This is a safe move by Obama, and it will pay back huge dividends down the road.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_20:42:40", "killed": false, "user_key": "113b8b42f25d4b142e2e7f99aded9a96", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 6, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4598665": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "After all of this crap, Rick Warren better say the best prayer I've ever heard. I expect my television to levitate. I want to see people speaking in tongues. Jesus Christ himself better make an appearance, or I'll be very disappointed.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_18:47:00", "killed": false, "user_key": "b45f45c3d16eaa32e1783c1d1798a893", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4605835": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "There is no selective choosing on anything. You just think it is. The Scripture is very clear on homosexuality. <br><br>When the opportunity arises to discuss actions of anyone else, I still can only quote what the Scripture says.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_05:50:38", "killed": false, "user_key": "Justice58", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4605777, "depth": 14, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4598163": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Co-sign<br><br>\"I would be the first to get in Obama's ass.\"  lol.  Please . . . Who are you?  lol )Not trying to be super offensive, but this is amazing... <br><br>Please \"get in Obama's ass\" about something that's worth the fight.  I agree with Politicalmusic, the other black civil rights pastor is not for gay marriage either, no one is saying anything about him.  If you want to rock the Obama is my president shirts, if you want to claim this year, we all know its going to be very difficult for our brother . . . don't be so quick and disloyal to jump ship over bull-ish . . . this is a calculated move on Obama's part.   You all know that WE are scrutinized twice as hard and have to work 2 times harder - this is no different for the POTUS.<br><br><br> Just like black people couldn't get Obama elected without broad white support, we surely will need some anti-gay support to move the country forward with a more progressive agenda.<br><br>I MEAN JUST TWO YEAR AGO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POLITICAL SUICIDE TO SAY GAY FOLKS DESERVE EQUAL RIGHTS, HOSPITAL TREATMENT, ETC.  There HAS been progress.  <br><br>And if you want to bar everyone who things homosexuality is a sin, then you have depleted about 99% despite what are progressive circles may believe.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_18:16:18", "killed": false, "user_key": "fcf775383d11dbda816c2bd79da003bd", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4597906, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4606357": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Wow...this is really personal for you isn't it? What has been your experience with Christianity where it elicits such an immediate response to discredit it?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_07:00:19", "killed": false, "user_key": "soulsistah02", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 7, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4604553, "depth": 6, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4598167": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "i adore rev. wright<br>and i have yet to read a single word he has said that is a lie<br>in fact<br>he warned us gays that obama was merely a callous and ruthless politico<br>no more<br>no less<br><br>this horrid choice of warren is indefensible and proof of that hard fact!!!<br><br>this is proof that gaybashing trumps racism<br><br>what rev w. said offended whites<br>so he was silenced<br><br>but warren is a rabid vulgar gaybashing<br>and unlike taboo racism, gaybashing is patriotic sport<br>so even obama is only pumping up warren's homohating volume!!!!<br><br>shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br>see more at<br>OUTLOOK<br><a href=\"http://aliciabanks.blogspot.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://aliciabanks.blogspot.com</a>", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_18:16:53", "killed": false, "user_key": "alicia2008", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 7, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4605337": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I give my response to a post. You don't have to read it , agree with it or respond to it!<br><br>If I am breaking any rules, then I expect the Moderators will tell me.Until then, I have as much right to post on this board as you do.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_04:25:55", "killed": false, "user_key": "Justice58", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 7, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4605266, "depth": 8, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4602267": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I agree 95% of the people I know don't even know that this is an issue. And those that have heard about it don't even get what the big fuss is about. Most folk I know are hoping that they will still have a job and or a roof over their head on January 20th. That's real, this other stuff is just hot air and wasted conversation .", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_23:39:59", "killed": false, "user_key": "pinksun", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4601997, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4599200": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Cohen never attempted to build Obama up; he's been attempting to tear him down since he announced his candidacy.  He accused him of effectively turning a blind eye to Farrakhan's alleged anti-semitism b/c Trinity honored Farrkhan and somehow it was Obama's duty to rebuke the church.  He also made an ass of himself on Morning Joe after Obama did the 'brush your shoulder off' move at a rally.  He thought it was a display of arrogance and dismissiveness of Hillary Clinton.  Callers blew MSNBC's phones up explaining to the old white man that it was Hip Hop lingo.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_19:23:34", "killed": false, "user_key": "4fd3ca416b455e03c3fa02c8bc744eb4", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4598208, "depth": 2, "points": 2, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4596644": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "It's looking like this invocation is about to spoil the whole f**king inauguration for some people.  I guess a whole bunch of us who intended to go to the ceremony will be staying home now.<br><br>I respect people's right to protest.  As a matter of fact, those of you who will be on the Mall, why don't u just turn your backs toward the podium when Warren speaks and just be happy :-) Barney Frank and Rachel Maddow can take a bathroom break during the invocation.<br><br>I regret that there's so much negative energy (although rightfully) being generated as we lead up to one of the most historic events in this country's history.  Want to blame it on Barack?  Cool, do that--but can we please not let this detract from the main event?<br><br><i> Some folks go to church to hear the singing.  Others go to church to hear the preaching.  But we must never forget that there is only one \"Star\" of this show and the main attraction is Jesus Christ.  Jesus Christ is the Superstar! </i><br><br>-Webb's Pastor", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_16:44:09", "killed": false, "user_key": "Webb", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 7, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4600232": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Co-sign!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_20:44:55", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4600199, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4626759": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "also for those people who have selective memory, obama distanced himself from wrightfrom last year when he dis-invited him from his opening ceremony when he announced this candidacy. He was scared he may cause controversy. <br><br>Wright had a no interview policy for over a year.<br><br>When he was publicly demonized, he came out over a month later to introduce himself and his ideology to the public which was obviously not well accepted. The only mistake he made was even bothering to talk to an ignorant American media and public who is addicted to propaganda and oversimplification.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-25_12:03:58", "killed": false, "user_key": "Rhondacoca", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4616620": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Yep!  I felt bad for Wright. He reminded me of Chris Rock, when he said...show me an old black man ...and I will show you an angry man.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_19:20:15", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4616311, "depth": 4, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4614577": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Yes, but you all are not in the forefront of the gay movement, and you don't have a seat at the table on gay activist issues either.<br><br>You are as invisible within the gay community as you are as a black person in the larger community.<br><br>So you get doubly ignored...just like women who are black don't count to the feminist.  We get doubly ignored too.<br><br>White ENTITLED feminist don't want to deal with the complexity of our blackness and white ENTITLED gays don't want to deal with the complexity of your blackness when it comes to the gay political agenda EITHER. You are invisible to their political goals. The whiteentitlement they have from the larger society made them determine long ago that if they dared touch the blackness issue they would never achieve their goals so they blow you off and ignore you!!  INTENTIONALLY, DELIBERATELY, WILLFULLY with FORETHOUGHT and inDEED malice.<br><br>In short, you don't count, not your beliefs, not your opinions and for damn sure not your BLACK struggle.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_16:29:15", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 5, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4612998, "depth": 4, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4602802": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "<i>Let's keep it real: Rick Warren is a pastor that holds THE SAME VIEWS as about 95% of other Christian pastors in the country if we want to be intellectually honest.</i><br><br><br><br>Tell it!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_00:31:34", "killed": false, "user_key": "Justice58", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 9, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4618675": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I find Rick Warren a disturbing pick because he believes me to be no better than a pedophile, and he believes my relationships to be no better than those of an incestuous nature.  It's hard not to take comments like that personal, and i take umbrage at the notion that i cannot express anger over his views.  I also don't agree with Pastor Warren's divisive views on abortion, social gospel protestants, assassination, and whether Jews will be condemned to hell.  <br><br>My supporting the President-Elect, despite his position on gay marriage, is the definition of disagreeing without being disagreeable.  That said, President-Elect Obama is not above reproach.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_19:57:24", "killed": false, "user_key": "e1b3155f9cf4abe9531b70e380ae7c60", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4600246": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "holla?%$#@&?!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_20:47:26", "killed": false, "user_key": "f1ebafd5fc64d802635b54d4d3963341", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4600199, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4599229": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Warren's WHITE<br><br>Wright is BLACK<br><br>CPL, you DO know it's this simple, don't you? <br><br>Cause a whole lot of them WHITE Holy Rollers said more #($* about America than Wright EVER DID....and unlike Wright...WEREN'T BEING TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_19:25:20", "killed": false, "user_key": "rikyrah", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": true, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4598208": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "\"Regrading Cohen's comment, why does Obama have to be a moral leader in the first place?\"<br><br>-So that he (Cohen) can \"build\" Obama up, only to tear him down later.<br><br>I'd be interested to know Cohen's position durirg the whole Wright episode myself.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_18:20:10", "killed": false, "user_key": "Admiral_Komack", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4597426, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4599235": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "EVENING THREAD IS UP", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_19:25:39", "killed": false, "user_key": "rikyrah", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": true, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4627402": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "WRB & I  should be &me unless you would say \"you've accused I.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-25_13:43:39", "killed": false, "user_key": "faecbbab30df200a4a136ffe1d42ee1c", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4624183, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4608972": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "YEP!<br>And that would have been wonderful. Because he could have shared a side of PEO that he uniquely was privvy too.<br><br>Instead, he discredited himself as a whacko, by that national press club performance.<br><br>But I got tell you, I felt Wrights angst and need to slaaap those folks back hard. It was real crafty how he told all the black folks to come at 3pm knowing they would come late and then tell the press to come at 4pm. Which meant that the white press was all sitting in the balcony!  And the blacks were on the floor of the audience.<br><br>That had to be a real motivating vision for a man who grew up in the segregation era, where black folks could only sit in the balcony and I think it fueled his performance, just the irony of his having made those white folks sit in the balcony. Every time Wright looked out at that it fired him up more<br><br>So, I can't hate on Wright knowing what all he lived through coming home from war and being treated like shyt after putting his life on the line for America and furthermore the man is brilliant and what he could aspire to achieve was just ridiculous in terms of the limitations.  <br><br>Wright wasn't right, but I am not mad at him in terms of American history. I was pissed at the political consequences he was capable of if he had derailed Obama's bid for the nomination.  But Obama is President and I can forgive Wright is moment of insanity after they beat up on his good name with those looped tapes.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_11:16:53", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 2, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4606471, "depth": 2, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4602838": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "<i>You make a valid point, but then this puts the argument back on the church and the bible and I don't think anybody wants to go there. If a pastor says that homosexuality is a sin b/c that's what's in the bible, he is deemed a bigot. <b>Don't be mad at him, he's just the messenger. Be mad at the message.</b> LOL. I think I should have left that alone.</i><br><br><br><br>Yet, you're nailing it to the wall!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_00:35:15", "killed": false, "user_key": "Justice58", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4602136, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4606429": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "I may get eviscerated for this comment, but...<br><br>I'm glad that Wright was thrown under the bus. During the Civil Rights era, Black female suffering had to take a backseat for racial equality to be realized. When pioneers like Diane Nash, Ella Baker, and Fannie Lou Hamer offered honest critiques of the sexual oppression within the movement, male leaders explicitly told them that the movement \"wasn't about them.\" <br><br>Well, the tied has certainly turned and now it is the Black community that has told Jeremiah Wright, Jesse Jackson, Andrew Young, Tavis Smiley and anyone that dare to utter a single word in criticism of Barack and Michelle Obama that this election -- this moment -- \"wasn't about them,\" and proceeded to publicly severed their ties to these, ahem, \"leaders.\"", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_07:14:56", "killed": false, "user_key": "soulsistah02", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 3, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4600823, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4599828": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "Last time I checked, thousands of Blacks and other POC were disenfranchised of their votings rights in 2000 and 2004....and there were even some tricks and voter intimidation going on this past election.<br><br>Now tell me where Gay citizens (the White LGBT community especially) were dealt the same way.......oh, I didn't think so.  Matter of factly most are bitching now that they wish they could take back that vote because of an invocation invite...and not an actual policy decision.<br><br>Now one is saying gaybashing trumps anything....but what I do know is that through the pain of the passage of Prop 8, racism and scapegoating  of Black people, and blaming Obama for the passage itself  DID occur..... and all the while,  Ken Starr is still coming to take more rights away while the masses is distracted.<br><br>BTW, Rick Warren is busy scrubbing his website of anti-gay language....maybe there will be a bright side after all.", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_20:07:40", "killed": false, "user_key": "Monie", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4598167, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4615845": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "...and you subscribe to that notion:  that i'm invisible, and i don't count?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_18:27:30", "killed": false, "user_key": "e1b3155f9cf4abe9531b70e380ae7c60", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 4, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4614577, "depth": 5, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4605409": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Nobody said you didn't but that doesn't mean your comments should go without any scrutiny. You state your opinions as facts. I am only pointing out that many people quote scripture for their own purposes and how easily it can be used against others. Believe what you will.  If you are unable to withstand it or justify it that's on you. Believe me you could go to any number of sites and hear about certain people being cursed because of a scripture but don't run off now!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_03:42:07", "killed": false, "user_key": "heartsandflowers", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 6, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4605337, "depth": 9, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4616674": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Warren returned 25 years of his salary to the church and 90% of his book sales also go back to the church.<br><br>He walks the talk.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_19:26:22", "killed": false, "user_key": "whiterosebuddy", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4616528, "depth": 3, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4599271": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Thank you. Barack stood by Rev. Wright for months and took a lot of heat for it. What was he supposed to do after Rev. Wright did the electric slide and threw his hooks up at the Natl Press Club.... cosign?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_19:27:30", "killed": false, "user_key": "14ab1e674d7f902b4d88668a1db28012", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": null, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4597534, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4616175": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "<i>From my perspective. Obama didn't throw Rev. Wright under the bus. It was Rev. Wright who threw Obama under the bus when he decided to show out at the Press Club function.</i><br><br>It was the National Press Club. Remember, the Moyers interview went fine. So did the speech in Detroit. It was the National Press Club that was it.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_18:40:45", "killed": false, "user_key": "rikyrah", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": true, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": true, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4615307, "depth": 1, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4611057": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "I wake up co-signing comments! Bravo, whiterosebuddy!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_12:17:10", "killed": false, "user_key": "soulsistah02", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4608840, "depth": 11, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4604402": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Preach!!!  Wright threw himself under that bus!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_01:49:23", "killed": false, "user_key": "mjohnso27", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 1, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4600823, "depth": 1, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4599379": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "You'll be waiting for a REAL long time.....", "is_last_child": true, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_19:35:13", "killed": false, "user_key": "Town", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4599303, "depth": 3, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4600823": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "If Jeremiah Wright hadn't showed his ass at the National Press Club AFTER Obama went out on a limb to support him with his \"More Perfect Union\" speech then HE might have had the opportunity to do the invocation for the inauguration.  He threw himself under the bus. At least William Ayres waited until after the election to show out.", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_21:42:04", "killed": false, "user_key": "eclecticbrotha", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 13, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4599801": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": false, "message": "If Jesus does not appear while Rick Warren in speaking I will be VERY disappointed!!!!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_20:06:05", "killed": false, "user_key": "islandgirl550", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 0, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4599454, "depth": 2, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4606459": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Well first you have to define Christianity. I know of a lot of false religions as well as legalistic interpreters who have caused great harm. This focus on selectively choosing passages with no context is misleading. When some people set themselves up as being the definers I will question that as should we all. Black people are in no position to claim moral superiority over anything when you look at the state of the community today. It's easy to point fingers at others but 'not remove the plank from your own eye'. Also silence on a subject implies consent and I will speak out against racism and hatred whether it is by whites or blacks. People should be able to withstand scrutiny and be accountable. This only tells me how damaged people are, how we are not all allies, and the time comes to leave those behind who don't want to get with the program. Gay people are not responsible for black people being criminals and men killing each other, nor the large amount of unmarried women having kids, nor men not being around, nor the average net worth being $12K, nor the bulk of the problems in the middle and working classes. They also aren't responsible for the number of rapes and abuse against black women where you have to fear leaving our house for being approached on the street. Nor for the lack of education and desire for learning because that's acting white. But somehow certain people choose to focus on gay gay gay and god said this when we already know whites said the same thing when they enslaved some of our ancestors. But those same people who come here want to ignore that because it shows just how ignorant and shortsighted they are. But they can take comfort in their words. Like all the others who spread hate nd kill in the name of their god.  They're certainly not unique!", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-24_06:23:09", "killed": false, "user_key": "heartsandflowers", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 6, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": 4606357, "depth": 7, "points": 0, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}, "4597757": {"up_voted": false, "ip": "", "has_replies": true, "message": "Billy Graham did the invocation at Bill Clinton's 1993 inauguration.<br><br>Now if you run over to Graham's site, his views don't differ that much from Rick Warren's...actually search \"A Federal Marriage Amendment\" and it pretty much sums up their postions.<br><br>Were there any protest at the inaugurations of Clinton in 1993 or 1996?....I don't recall any myself.<br><br>And yet under Clinton's presidency, policies like DADT and the Defense of Marriage Act (1996) were enacted.   <br><br>What I find ironic is that in the Gay Rights battleground state of California, HRC cruised to a primary victory over Obama.  Now I know Hillary is not her husband, but let's be honest, she ran off of his legacy and platform.  Was the LGBT community screaming to the top of their lungs earlier this year that another Clinton could not possibly preside ove this country again, especially after policies were enacted under Bill Clinton that harmed them......Because honestly I don't recall that outrage either.<br><br>I am not writing this as an excuse for the Warren decision...nor arguing for or against.<br>I am just wondering is a double standard being applied to Obama than it was for Obama or any other  Democratic leader.<br><br>BTW, those who are solidly against Warren and are highly disgusted with Obama....I am interested in knowing did you support and vote for Bill Clinton during his two terms....and if so, does that make you a hypocrite?", "is_last_child": false, "can_reply": true, "down_voted": false, "real_date": "2008-12-23_17:49:59", "killed": false, "user_key": "Monie", "has_been_anonymized": false, "edited": false, "author_is_moderator": false, "from_request_user": false, "votable": true, "date": "11 months ago", "approved": true, "num_replies": 5, "is_first_child": false, "email": "", "parent_post_id": null, "depth": 0, "points": 1, "author_is_creator": false, "is_realtime": false}}, "integration": {"receiver_url": "", "theme": 4, "reply_position": true, "disqus_logo": false}, "timer": {"timer_url": "http://localhost:8005", "thread_id": "8786119", "user_id": "anonymous", "forum_id": "21630", "hash": 7532002547094307927}, "thread": {"days_alive": 0, "slug": "will_rick_warren_get_a_pass_while_jeremiah_wright_is_flung_under_the_bus", "paginate": false, "num_pages": 1, "num_posts": 169, "per_page": 0, "total_posts": 0, "realtime_paused": true, "id": 8786119, "queued": false}, "reactions_limit": 10, "context": {"show_reply": true, "use_fb_connect": true, "forum_facebook_key": "bd6a8bc56f8eb204984f34b6fefe228d", "use_yahoo": false, "subscribed": false, "use_twitter_signin": true, "use_openid": false, "realtime_speed": 5000}, "reactions_start": 0, "settings": {"debug": false, "disqus_url": "http://disqus.com", "media_url": "http://media.disqus.com"}, "media_url": "http://media.disqus.com"};
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	this.THIS_WILL_FLAG_COMMENTS_FOR_MODERATORS_TO_TAKE_ACTION = "This will flag comments for moderators to take action";
	this.TO_RATE_PLEASE_LOG_IN = "To rate, please log in";
	this.JUST_A_MOMENT = "Just a moment...";
	this.GUEST = "Guest";
	this.NAME = "Name";
	this.EMAIL = "Email";
  this.WEBSITE = "Website";
  this.SETTINGS = "Settings";
  this.MODERATOR_OPTIONS = "Moderator options: ";
};
// Dsq.Strings

/**
 * Dsq.FmtStrings: functions that return interpolated UI strings
 */
Dsq.FmtStrings = new function() {
	// Seems we have to use named interpolation for Django to translate. Investigate more.
	this.LOGGED_IN_AS = function(username) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate('Logged in as %(username)s', {username:username});
	};

	this.LOGOUT_FROM = function(disqus) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate('Logout from %(disqus)s', {disqus:disqus});
	};

	this.SHOWING_COMMENTS_FULL = function(total, num) {
		if (num === 1) {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> of <span id='dsq-total-posts'>%(total)s</span> comment", {num:num, total:total});
		} else {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> of <span id='dsq-total-posts'>%(total)s</span> comments", {num:num, total:total});
		}
	};

	this.SHOWING_COMMENTS_WITHOUT_PAGINATION = function(num) {
		if (num === 1) {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> comment", {num:num});
		} else {
			return Dsq.Utils.interpolate("Showing <span id='dsq-num-posts'>%(num)s</span> comments", {num:num});
		}
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_COMMENTS = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s comment'
				: '%(num)s comments'
			), {num:num});
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_LIKES = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s like'
				: '%(num)s likes'
			), {num:num});
	};

	this.NUMBER_OF_POINTS = function(num) {
		return Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
			(num == 1
				? '%(num)s point'
				: '%(num)s points'
			), {num:num});
	};
};
// Dsq.FmtStrings





Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN = '3a1994e3330279e78957da82fb64f754';
Dsq.COMMENTS_RE = /(<li.*?id="?dsq-comment-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/li>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_RE = /(<div.*?id="?dsq-comment-header-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*?)(<\/div>)\s*(<div.*?class="?dsq-comment-body"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
Dsq.POST_BODY_RE = /\s*(<div.*?id="?dsq-comment-message-(\d+)"?.*?>)((?:.|\s)*)(<\/div>)/gim;
// HACK: Safari ends with "-->" while other browsers end with "--&gt;" as expected.
Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE = /&lt;!--\[(.*?)\]--(?:>|&gt;)/gim;



var FragmentPacket = function(reader, writer, writer_url, is_child, receiveCallback) {
	var that = this;
	this.reader = reader;
	this.writer = writer;
	this.writer_url = writer_url;

	this.is_child = is_child || false;
	this.receiveCallback = receiveCallback;

	this._lastHash = null;

	this._accumMsg = '';

	this._lastSeqno = 0;

	this.MAX_DATA_LEN	= 1024;

	this.WAIT_TIME		= 10;

	this.READY		= 0x1;
	this.WRITING	= 0x2;
	this.FIN		= 0x4;
	this.ACK		= 0x8;

};

FragmentPacket.prototype.createListener = function() {
	var that = this;
	var listener = function() {
		that.recv();
	};
	return window.setInterval(listener, 10);
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.log = function(msg) {



};

FragmentPacket.prototype.recv = function() {
	var hash;
	if (/MSIE/.test(navigator.userAgent)) {

		hash = this.reader.name;
	} else {

		var hashIndex = this.reader.location.href.indexOf('#');
		if (hashIndex == -1) {
			return;
		}
		hash = this.reader.location.href.substring(hashIndex+1);
	}
	var flags = parseInt(hash.substring(0, 4), 10);
	var seqno = parseInt(hash.substring(4, 24), 10);
	var data  = hash.substring(24);

	if (this._lastHash !== hash) {
		this._lastHash = hash;
		this.log('recv: ' + hash);

		this.log(' flags: ' + flags);
		this.log(' seqno: ' + seqno + ' len: ' + hash.substring(4, 24).length + ' (' + hash.substring(4, 24) + ')');
		this.log(' data: ' + data + ' len: ' + data.length);

		this._lastSeqno = seqno;

		if (flags & this.WRITING) {
			this._accumMsg += data;
			this.sendFlag(this.ACK, seqno);
			if (flags & this.FIN) {
				this.log('recv finished: ' + decodeURIComponent(this._accumMsg));
				this.receiveCallback(decodeURIComponent(this._accumMsg));

				this._accumMsg = '';

				this.sendFlag(this.READY | this.ACK, this._lastSeqno);
			}
		}
	}

	return {
		flags: flags,
		seqno: seqno,
		data: data
	};
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.sendRawPacket = function(packet) {
	if (/MSIE/.test(navigator.userAgent)) {
		this.writer.name = packet;
	} else {

		this.writer.location.href = this.writer_url + '#' + packet;
	}

};

FragmentPacket.prototype.sendFlag = function(flag, seqno) {
	this.sendRawPacket(this._zerofill(flag, 4) + this._zerofill(seqno, 20));
};

FragmentPacket.prototype.send = function(msg) {
	this._send(0, encodeURIComponent(msg));
};

FragmentPacket.prototype._send = function(packetNum, msg) {
	var that = this;
	var recvBuf = this.recv();

	if (packetNum === 0) {

		if (!(recvBuf.flags & this.READY)) {
			this.log('client is not ready, waiting...');
			window.setTimeout(function() { that._send(packetNum, msg); }, this.WAIT_TIME);
			return;
		}
	} else {

		if (!( (recvBuf.flags & this.ACK) && (recvBuf.seqno === this._lastSeqno) )) {
			this.log('waiting for ack from client...');
			window.setTimeout(function() { that._send(packetNum, msg); }, this.WAIT_TIME);
			return;
		} else {
			this.log('received ack: ' + this._lastSeqno + ' ' + recvBuf.seqno);
		}
	}

	var flags = this.WRITING;
	var num_packets = Math.ceil(msg.length / this.MAX_DATA_LEN);
	this.log('num_packets: ' + num_packets);

	if (num_packets === packetNum) {

		this.log('message successfully sent!');
		this.sendFlag(this.READY | this.ACK, this._lastSeqno);
		return true;
	}

	this._lastSeqno++;

	if (packetNum == num_packets-1) {
		flags |= this.FIN;
	}

	var data = msg.substring(packetNum * this.MAX_DATA_LEN, (packetNum+1) * this.MAX_DATA_LEN);
	var packet = this._zerofill(flags, 4) + this._zerofill(this._lastSeqno, 20) + data;

	this.log('sending raw packet: ' + packet);
	this.sendRawPacket(packet);

	return this._send(packetNum + 1, msg);
};

FragmentPacket.prototype._zerofill = function(num, width) {
	var retval = num.toString();
	var retval_len = retval.length;
	for (var i = 0; i < width - retval_len; i++) {
		retval = '0' + retval;
	}
	return retval;
};

var PostMessagePacket = function(receiver, receiveCallback, id, receiverId) {
	var that = this;
	this.receiver = receiver;
	this.receiveCallback = receiveCallback;
	this.id = id;


	this.receiverId = receiverId;
};

PostMessagePacket.prototype.createListener = function() {
	var that = this;

	var listener = function(e) {

		if (!that.id) {
			that.id = e.data;
			return;
		}


		var id = e.data.split(';')[0];
		if (id !== that.id) {
			return;
		}
		var data = e.data.substring(e.data.indexOf(';') + 1);

		that.receiveCallback(data);
	};

	if (typeof window.attachEvent == 'function') {
		window.attachEvent('onmessage', listener);
	} else if (typeof window.addEventListener == 'function') {
		window.addEventListener('message', listener, false);
	} else {
		throw new Error('No method found to create event listener for PostMessagePacket.');
	}
};

PostMessagePacket.prototype.send = function(msg) {



	var needs_reget = false;
	try {
		if (typeof this.receiver.id == 'undefined' || typeof this.receiver.postMessage == 'undefined') {
			needs_reget = true;
		}
	} catch(e) {


	}
	if (needs_reget && typeof this.receiverId != 'undefined') {
		this.receiver = document.getElementById(this.receiverId).contentWindow;
	}

	var packet;
	if (!msg) {

		packet = this.id;
	} else {
		packet = this.id + ';' + msg;
	}
	this.receiver.postMessage(packet, '*');
};

PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = null;
PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id = function() {
	var id = (new Date()).getTime();
	if (id == PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id) {
		id++;
	}
	PostMessagePacket._last_unique_id = id;
	return id.toString();
};

var JsonRpc = function() {

	this.ids = {};

	this.objectToJSON = function(obj) {
		var json = '';
		var results = [];

		if (obj === undefined || obj === null) {
			return 'null';
		}

		switch (obj.constructor) {
			case Object:
				for (var property in obj) {
					if (obj.hasOwnProperty(property)) {
						results.push(this.objectToJSON(property) + ': ' + this.objectToJSON(obj[property]));
					}
				}
				json = '{' + results.join(', ') + '}';
				break;
			case Array:
				for (var i = 0; i < obj.length; i++) {
					results.push(this.objectToJSON(obj[i]));
				}
				json = '[' + results.join(', ') + ']';
				break;
			case Number:
			case Boolean:
				json = obj.toString();
				break;
			case String:

				var specialChars = {'\b': '\\b', '\t': '\\t', '\n': '\\n', '\f': '\\f', '\r': '\\r', '\\': '\\\\'};

				json = obj.replace(/[\x00-\x1f\\]/g, function(match) {
					var ch = specialChars[match];
					return ch ? ch : '\\u00' + match.charCodeAt().toPaddedString(2, 16);
				});

				json = '"' + json.replace(/"/g, '\\"') + '"';
				break;
			default:

				json = 'null';
				break;
		}

		return json;
	};

	this.createHandler = function(send_func, registered_funcs) {
		var that = this;
		var handler = function(message) {

			try {
				var rpc = eval('(' + message + ')');
			} catch(e) {
				alert('bad JSON: ' + message);
				return;
			}
			if (rpc.method) {

				if (!registered_funcs[rpc.method]) {
					return;
				}

				var retval = registered_funcs[rpc.method].apply(null, rpc.params);
				if (rpc.id) {
					var response = {
						result: retval,
						error: null,	// TODO
						id: rpc.id
					};
					send_func(that.objectToJSON(response));
				}
			} else if(rpc.result) {

				if (!that.ids[rpc.id]) {
					return;
				}

				that.ids[rpc.id](rpc.result);
				delete that.ids[rpc.id];
			}
		};
		return handler;
	};

	this.execute = function(send_func, method, params, response_callback) {
		response_callback = response_callback || null;
		var id = (response_callback) ? (new Date()).getTime() : null;

		var request = {
			method: method,
			params: params,
			id: id
		};

		send_func(this.objectToJSON(request));

		if (id) {
			this.ids[id] = response_callback;
		}
	};
};
JsonRpc = new JsonRpc();

var ParentMessenger = function(childUrl, receiverUrl, container, receiveCallback) {


	if (navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Safari') >= 0 && parseInt(navigator.userAgent.substring(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Version/') + 8), 10) == 3) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	} else if (window.opera) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	}



	if (!receiverUrl &&
		navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Gecko') >= 0 &&
		parseFloat(navigator.userAgent.slice(navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 3, navigator.userAgent.indexOf('rv:') + 6)) < 1.9) {
		throw new Error("unsupported.");
	}


	if (/msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent)) {


		if (document.domain == window.location.hostname) {
			receiverUrl = '';
		}
	}

	var that = this;
	this.childUrl = childUrl;
	this.receiverUrl = receiverUrl;
	this.container = container || document.body;

	this.packetHandler = null;


	this._ready = false;
	this._error = false;


	var _createReceiverForFragmentPacket = function() {

		that.receiver = document.createElement('iframe');
		that.receiver.src = receiverUrl;
		that.receiver.id = 'receiver_' + (new Date()).getTime();
		that.receiver.name = that.receiver.id;

		that.receiver.frameBorder = '0';
		that.receiver.frameSpacing = '0';
		that.receiver.style.borderStyle = 'none';

		var receiver_onload = function() {
			var receiver = document.getElementById(that.receiver.id).contentWindow;

			try {
				receiver.document.body.innerHTML = '';
			} catch(e) {

				that._error = true;
			}
			receiver.document.body.style.padding = '0px';
			receiver.document.body.style.margin = '0px';

			var child = receiver.document.createElement('iframe');
			child.id = 'child';
			child.name = 'child';
			child.src = that.childUrl;

			child.frameBorder = '0';
			child.frameSpacing = '0';
			child.style.borderStyle = 'none';
			child.style.width = '100%';
			child.style.height = '100%';
			receiver.document.body.appendChild(child);

			that.child = receiver.document.getElementById('child').contentWindow;
			that.receiver = receiver;

			that.packetHandler = new FragmentPacket(that.receiver, that.child, that.childUrl, false, receiveCallback);

			that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();

			that.packetHandler.sendFlag(that.packetHandler.READY, 0);

			that._ready = true;
		};

		that.receiver.onreadystatechange = function() {
			if (this.readyState == 'complete') {
				receiver_onload();
			}
		};

		that.receiver.onload = receiver_onload;







		if (Dsq.Utils.ie) {
			if (that.container.clientWidth === 0) {

				var _waitForWidth = function() {
					if (that.container.clientWidth > 0) {
						Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
					} else {
						window.setTimeout(_waitForWidth, 100);
					}
				};
				_waitForWidth();

				that._once = false;
				that.receiver.onresize = function() {
					if (!that._once) {
						Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(that.container.id);
					}
					that._once = true;
				};
			}
		}

		that.container.appendChild(that.receiver);
	};


	var _createReceiverForPostMessage = function() {

		var receiver_onload = function() {

			that.packetHandler.send();
			that._ready = true;
		};

		var id = PostMessagePacket._get_unique_id();
		var receiverId = 'child_' + id;


		ParentMessenger['_receiver_onload_' + receiverId] = receiver_onload;

		that.container.innerHTML += '<iframe ' +
			'src="' + childUrl + '" ' +
			'id="' + receiverId + '" ' +
			'name="' + receiverId + '" ' +
			'onload="ParentMessenger._receiver_onload_' + receiverId +'();" ' +
			'></iframe>';

		that.receiver = document.getElementById(receiverId).contentWindow;
		that.packetHandler = new PostMessagePacket(that.receiver, receiveCallback, id, receiverId);
		that._listener = that.packetHandler.createListener();
	};

	if (typeof window.postMessage == 'function') {
		_createReceiverForPostMessage();
	} else {
		_createReceiverForFragmentPacket();
	}

};

ParentMessenger.prototype.sendMessage = function(message) {
	var that = this;
	if (!this._ready) {

		window.setTimeout(function() { that.sendMessage(message); }, 10);
		return;
	}
	this.packetHandler.send(message);
	return true;
};

Dsq.NewFrames = function(url) {
	this.url = url;
};

Dsq.NewFrames.prototype.init = function(onFailure) {
	var that = this;

	try {
		this.messenger = new ParentMessenger(this.url, Dsq.jsonData.integration.receiver_url, this.container, this.receive_callback);
	} catch(e) {
		if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
			onFailure();
		}
	}

	if (typeof onFailure == 'function') {
		var iId = window.setInterval(function() {
			if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
				return;
			}
			if (that.messenger._ready) {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
			} else if (that.messenger._error) {
				window.clearInterval(iId);
				onFailure();
			}
		}, 10);
	}
};

Dsq.NewFrames.prototype._execute = function(method, args, callback) {
	var that = this;
	if (typeof that.messenger == 'undefined') {
		return false;
	}
	JsonRpc.execute(
		function(msg) { that.messenger.sendMessage(msg); },
		method,
		args || [],
		callback);
	return true;
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame = function(container, parent_post_id) {
	var that = this;
	this.container = container;
	this.parent_post_id = parent_post_id;

	var sendFunc = function(msg) {

		Dsq.Debug.log('Dsq.ReplyFrame.sendFunc');
		that.messenger.sendMessage(msg);
	};


	var postComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
		Dsq.jsonData.posts[response.message.id] = response.message.post_meta;
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key]) {
			Dsq.jsonData.users[response.message.post_meta.user_key] = response.message.user_meta;
		}


		var reply_position = (typeof(disqus_insert_wrt_sort) == 'undefined' 
			? (Dsq.jsonData.forum.reply_position ? -1 : null) 
			: (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 2 ? null : -1));
		
		if (response.message.post_meta.approved) {
			Dsq.Post.insert(response.message.post_meta.parent_post_id || reply_position, response.message.id, response.message.post_meta.message);
		}

		Dsq.Templates.postComment_onSuccess(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
	};

	var postComment_onFailure = function(response) {
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(response.message, 'Error');
		Dsq.Templates.postComment_onFailure(response, parent_post_id, response.message.id);
	};

	var editComment_onSuccess = function(response) {
		var post_id = parent_post_id;
		var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);
		
		message.innerHTML = response.message;
		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};
	
	var editComment_onFailure = function(response) {
		var post_id = parent_post_id;
		
		Dsq.Popup.popModal('Sorry, there was an error editing this comment.', 'Edit Error');
		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	var getUserByEmail_onSuccess = function(response) {
		var msg = response.message;
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(parent_post_id);

		if (msg.username) {

			Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'login', {
				'username': msg.username,
				'display_name': msg.display_name,
				'avatar_url': msg.avatar_url,
				'verified': msg.verified,
				'email': fields.email.value
			});
		} else {

			Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(parent_post_id, 'register');
		}
	};

	var validateAuth_onSuccess = function(response, auth_choice) {
		Dsq.Templates.postComment(parent_post_id, null, true, auth_choice);
	};

	var validateAuth_onFailure = function(response, auth_choice) {
		var pid = parent_post_id ? '-' + parent_post_id : '';
		var msg = response.message;

		if (auth_choice == 'register') {
			var fields = ['email', 'username', 'password'];

			for (var i = 0; i < fields.length; i++) {
				var field = fields[i];
				var errorDiv = Dsq.$('dsq-' + field + '-errors' + pid);

				if (msg[field]) {
					errorDiv.innerHTML = msg[field];
				} else {
					errorDiv.innerHTML = '';
				}
			}
		} else if (auth_choice == 'login') {
			Dsq.$('dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid).innerHTML = '<p>We couldn\'t log you in. Please verify your login.</p>';
		}
		
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	this.receive_callback = JsonRpc.createHandler(sendFunc, {
		'postComment.onSuccess': postComment_onSuccess,
		'postComment.onFailure': postComment_onFailure,
		'editComment.onSuccess': editComment_onSuccess,
		'editComment.onFailure': editComment_onFailure,		
		'getUserByEmail.onSuccess': getUserByEmail_onSuccess,
		'validateAuth.onSuccess': validateAuth_onSuccess,
		'validateAuth.onFailure': validateAuth_onFailure,
		'reload': function() { window.location.reload(); }
	});

	this.url = Dsq.Urls.REPLY +
		'?' + (new Date()).getTime() +
		'&f=jackandjillpolitics' +
		'&t=will_rick_warren_get_a_pass_while_jeremiah_wright_is_flung_under_the_bus' +
		'&ff=' + Dsq.Thread.ff +
		'&default_text=' + disqus_default_text +
		'&ifrs=' + encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css);
	if (this.parent_post_id) {
		this.url += '&parent_post=' + this.parent_post_id;
	}
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype = new Dsq.NewFrames(Dsq.ReplyFrame.url);

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.post = function(author_name, author_email, author_url, authenticate, sharing_services, subscribe) {
	this._execute('postComment', [author_name, author_email, author_url, authenticate, sharing_services, subscribe]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.edit = function(post_id, message) {
	this._execute('editComment', [post_id, message]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.setState = function(parent_post_id, depth) {
	this._execute('setState', [parent_post_id, depth]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.getUserByEmail = function(email) {
	this._execute('getUserByEmail', [email]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.validateAuth = function(auth_choice, email, username, password) {
	this._execute('validateAuth', [auth_choice, email, username, password]);
};

Dsq.ReplyFrame.prototype.authenticateFacebook = function(session, forum_url) {
	this._execute('authenticateFacebook', [session, forum_url]);
};

	Dsq.Facebook = function() {
	var that = this;

	var handleSessionData = function(session) {

		var forum_url = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;




		if (typeof disqus_facebook_forum != 'undefined') {
			forum_url = disqus_facebook_forum;
		}
		Dsq.frames.reply_0.authenticateFacebook(session, forum_url);
	};

	var onLogin = function() {
		FB.Connect.getSignedPublicSessionData(handleSessionData);
	};

	this.login = function() {
		FB.Connect.requireSession(onLogin, true);
	};
};
Dsq.Facebook = new Dsq.Facebook();


	






Dsq.Themes = {};

Dsq.Themes.narcissus = new function() {
	this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-form-area';
	this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-textarea-wrapper';



	
	this.header = function() {
		var comments_count, total_posts, num_posts;
		var html = '';
		var missing_perm_tmpl;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.missing_perm) {
			missing_perm_tmpl = Dsq.Templates.missingPermissions();
			if (missing_perm_tmpl) {
				html += '<div class="dsq-missing-permissions">' + missing_perm_tmpl + '</div>';
			}
		}

		total_posts = Dsq.jsonData.thread.total_posts;
		num_posts = Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_posts;

		if (total_posts) {
			comments_count = Dsq.FmtStrings.SHOWING_COMMENTS_FULL(total_posts, num_posts);
		} else {
			comments_count = Dsq.FmtStrings.SHOWING_COMMENTS_WITHOUT_PAGINATION(num_posts);
		}

		html += ' \
		<div id="dsq-comments-title"> \
			<h3>' + comments_count + '</h3> \
		</div> \
		';

		html += ' \
		<div class="dsq-options"> \
			<span class="dsq-item-sort">'
				+ Dsq.Strings.SORT_BY + ' \
				<select id="dsq-sort-select" onchange="Dsq.Thread.sortBy(this.value);"> \
					<option value="hot" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 4 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.POPULAR_NOW + '</option> \
					<option value="best" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 3 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.BEST_RATING + '</option> \
					<option value="newest" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 2 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.NEWEST_FIRST + '</option> \
					<option value="oldest" ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sort == 1 ? 'selected="selected"' : '') + '>' + Dsq.Strings.OLDEST_FIRST + '</option> \
				</select> \
				&nbsp; \
			</span> \
			<span class="dsq-subscribe-email"> \
				<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/email.png" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle"> \
				<span id="dsq-subscribe">'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.subscribed
						? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(0); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.UNSUBSCRIBE + '</a>'
						: '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_EMAIL + '</a>')
				+ '</span> \
			</span> \
			<span class="dsq-subscribe-rss" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle"> \
				<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/bullet-feed.png" alt="" /> \
				<a href="http://jackandjillpolitics.disqus.com/will_rick_warren_get_a_pass_while_jeremiah_wright_is_flung_under_the_bus/latest.rss">' + Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_BY_RSS + '</a> \
			</span> \
		</div> \
		';

		
		

		return html;

	};
	
	this.footer = function() {
		var html = '';

		html += Dsq.Templates.pagination();

		
		
			html += Dsq.Templates.realtime();
			html += Dsq.Templates.showThreadSettings();
			html += Dsq.Templates.postBox();

		html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
		


		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator) {
 			html += ' \
				<div class="dsq-global-moderator-extras">'
					+ '<strong>shortname:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.forum.url
					+ '<strong>thread id:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.id
					+ '<strong>thread slug:</strong> ' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.slug
				+ '</div> \
			';
		}

		return html;
	};
	
	this.realtime = function() {
		var html = '';
		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			html += '<div id="dsq-realtime-options" class="dsq-options">'
					 + Dsq.Strings.REALTIME_UPDATING_IS + ' <strong id="dsq-realtime-status" style="text-transform: lowercase">' + Dsq.Strings.ENABLED + '</strong>. \
					 <a href="#" id="dsq-realtime-toggle" style="text-transform: capitalize"></a> \
					</div>';
		}

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
			html += ' \
				<div style="display: none" id="dsq-realtime-alert" class="dsq-realtime-alert"><span id="dsq-realtime-queued"></span> <a href="#" id="dsq-realtime-show"></a></div> \
			';
		}
		
		return html;
	};

	this.showThreadSettings = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '<div id="dsq-thread-settings" class="dsq-thread-settings">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATOR_OPTIONS;
		html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.showSettings(); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.SETTINGS + '</a>';
		if (Dsq.jsonData.forum.reactions_enabled && Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			html += '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.reportMissingReactions(); return false;">'
						+ Dsq.Strings.REPORT_MISSING_REACTIONS
						+ '</a>';
		}
		html +='</div>';

		return html;
	};

	this.postBox = function(post_id, use_fallback_iframe) {


		var html;
		var display_sharing_options = Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated;

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post) {
			return '';
		}
		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote) {


			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.hasOwnProperty(Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain)) {
				display_sharing_options = false;
			}
		}
		
		if (post_id) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];				
		}
		
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';

		var _requestUserInfo = function() {
			var html;



			var user_has_email = false;

			html = '<div class="dsq-request-user-info"> <!-- // If authenticated --> \
				<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT + '?ctkn=' + Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN + '" class="dsq-request-user-logout">' + Dsq.Strings.LOGOUT + '</a> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td rowspan="2">'
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE + '">' : '')
								+ '<img src="' + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR + '" width="48" height="48" class="dsq-request-user-avatar">'
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '</a>' : '')
						+ '</td> \
						<td class="dsq-request-user-name">'
								+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
									 ? '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-' + Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain + '">' + Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain + '</span>'
									 : (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_verified
											? '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span>'
											: '<span class="dsq-badge-small dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span>'))
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? ' <a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE + '">' : '') 
								+ Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username 
							+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '</a>' : '')
							+  (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && user_has_email ? ' <small>(<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.remoteAccountSettings(); return false;">change settings</a>)</small>' : '')
							+  (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? ' <small>(<a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/info/" target="_blank">change name</a> or <a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/avatar/" target="_blank">picture</a>)</small>' : '')
						+ '</td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-request-user-stats"> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.comments_count + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.comments_count == 1 ? 'comment' : 'comments') + '</span> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.likes_count + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.likes_count == 1 ? 'like' : 'likes') + '</span> \
							<span><big>' + Dsq.jsonData.request.points + '</big> ' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.points == 1 ? 'point' : 'points') + '</span> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div> \
			';
			return html;
		};

		var _loginOptions = function() {
			var html;
			html = ' \
			<div class="dsq-authenticate"> \
				<p class="dsq-autheneticate-copy">'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
					? Dsq.Strings.YOU_ARE_COMMENTING_AS_A + ' <a class="dsq-help" title="Click for more information" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Guest</a>. ' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL + ': ' + Dsq.Strings.LOGIN_BELOW + '.'
					: Dsq.Strings.REQUIRED + ': ' + Dsq.Strings.PLEASE_LOGIN_BELOW_TO_COMMENT + '.')
				+ '</p> \
				<ul class="dsq-login-buttons">'
					+ (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-disqus.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Facebook.login(); return false;"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-facebook.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-twitter.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.requestURL(); return false" ><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-openid.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_yahoo ? '<li class="dsq-login-button"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Yahoo.startYahooConnect(); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/login-yahoo.gif" /></a></li>' : '')
				+ '</ul> \
			</div> \
			';
			return html;
		};

		if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {


			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {



				return '<div id="dsq-form-area" style="display:none"><div id="dsq-textarea-wrapper"></div></div>' + _loginOptions();
			} else {
				return '';
			}
		}

		html = ' \
		<div id="' + (post_id 
			? 'dsq-reply-post-' + post_id
			: 'dsq-new-post')
		 	+ '" class="dsq-post-area"> \
			<div class="dsq-dc-logo"> \
				<a href="http://disqus.com/comments" target="_blank"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/disqus-logo.png"></a> \
			</div>'
			+ (post_id 
				? '<h3>' + Dsq.Strings.REPLYING_TO + ' ' + userData.display_name + '</h3>'
				: '<h3>' + Dsq.Strings.ADD_NEW_COMMENT + '</h3>')
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated 
				? _requestUserInfo()
				: _loginOptions() )
			+ '<div id="dsq-form-area' + pid + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-textarea"> \
				<div class="dsq-textarea-wrapper" id="dsq-textarea-wrapper' + pid + '"></div> \
			</div>'
			+ (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated
			? ' \
			<div class="dsq-post-fields"> \
				<form action="." method="GET" onsubmit="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, false); return false;"> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-left"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-name' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (disqus_def_name ? disqus_def_name : (Dsq.jsonData.session.name ? Dsq.jsonData.session.name : Dsq.Strings.NAME + '" class="dsq-placeholder')) + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'name\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'name\')" /></div></td> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-right"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-website' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (Dsq.jsonData.session.url ? Dsq.jsonData.session.url : Dsq.Strings.WEBSITE + ' (' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL.toLowerCase() + ')" class="dsq-placeholder') + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'website\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'website\')" /></div></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-left"><div class="dsq-input-wrapper"><input id="dsq-field-email' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (disqus_def_email ? disqus_def_email : (Dsq.jsonData.session.email ? Dsq.jsonData.session.email : Dsq.Strings.EMAIL + '" class="dsq-placeholder')) + '" onfocus="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'email\')" onblur="Dsq.Templates.handlePlaceholder(event, this, \'email\')" /></div></td> \
						<td class="dsq-post-fields-right"> \
							<div class="dsq-subscribe"> \
								<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.chooseSubscribe(' + post_id + '); return false" class="dsq-subscribe-menu"><span id="dsq-subscribe-select' + pid + '">' + (Dsq.jsonData.request.subscribe_on_post ? Dsq.Strings.SUBSCRIBE_TO_ALL_COMMENTS_BY_EMAIL : Dsq.Strings.DO_NOT_SUBSCRIBE_TO_COMMENTS) + '</span> <small>&#9660;</small></a> \
								<ul class="dsq-panel" id="dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid + '"> \
									<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.setSubscribe(2, this, ' + post_id + '); return false">Subscribe to all comments by email</a></li> \
									<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.setSubscribe(0, this, ' + post_id + '); return false">Do not subscribe to comments</a></li> \
								</ul> \
								<input id="dsq-subscribe-on-post' + pid + '" type="hidden" value="' + Dsq.jsonData.request.subscribe_on_post + '" /> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
				</form> \
			</div>'
			: '')
			+ '<div class="dsq-post-footer"> \
				<div class="dsq-sharing-options" ' + (!display_sharing_options ? 'style="display:none;"' : '') + '> \
					<button class="dsq-button-small" onfocus="document.getElementById(\'dsq-post-button' + pid + '\').focus();"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.SHARING_OPTIONS + ' <small>&#9660;</small></span></button> \
					<div class="dsq-panel"> '
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-twitter' + pid + '"'
								  + (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.twitter.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-twitter' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Twitter</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook
								&& (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook.enabled === true ||
										(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote && Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'facebook'))
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-facebook' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.facebook.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-facebook' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Facebook</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-yahoo' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.yahoo.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-yahoo' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Yahoo!</label> \
								</div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-tumblr' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.tumblr.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-tumblr' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Tumblr</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress !== undefined
								&& Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-wordpress' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.wordpress.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-wordpress' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Wordpress</label> \
								 </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype !== undefined
							  && Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-movabletype' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.movabletype.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
									<label for="dsq-sharing-movabletype' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' Movable Type</label> \
							   </div>'
							: '')
						+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad !== undefined
							  && Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad.enabled === true
							? '<div><input type="checkbox" id="dsq-sharing-typepad' + pid + '"'
									+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.sharing.typepad.auto === true ? 'checked=true' : '') + '/> \
								  <label for="dsq-sharing-typepad' + pid + '">' + Dsq.Strings.SHARE_ON + ' TypePad</label> \
							   </div>'
							: '')
						+ '<div><a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/connections/" target="_blank" class="dsq-configure-options">' + Dsq.Strings.CONFIGURE_OPTIONS + '</a></div>'
					+ '</div> \
				</div>'
				+ '<button class="dsq-button" id="dsq-post-button' + pid + '" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, false)"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.POST_AS + ' '
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username
					? Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username
					: Dsq.Strings.GUEST)
				+ '</span></button>'
				+ (post_id
					? '<button class="dsq-button" id="dsq-cancel-button' + pid + '" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(' + post_id +', this)"><span>' + Dsq.Strings.CANCEL + '</span></button>'
					: '')
			+ '</div>'
			+ '</div>' // end dsq-form-area
		+ '</div> \
		';
		
		return html;
	};




	this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="dsq-append-post-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
		var html;
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		
		html = ' \
		<table> \
			<tr> \
				<td id="dsq-header-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-header-avatar" onmouseover="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')"> \
					<a id="dsq-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-avatar" href="' + userData.url + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.show_avatar
					? '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key].avatar + '" alt="" />'
					: '')
				+ '</a> \
				</td> \
				<td class="dsq-comment-header-meta"> \
		';

		
		return html;
	};
	
	this.postAppendHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var html;
		var parent_display_name = '';
		
		if(_meta.parent_post_id) {

			var _parent_meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[_meta.parent_post_id];

			if (_parent_meta) {
				var parentUserData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_parent_meta.user_key];
				parent_display_name = parentUserData.display_name;
			}
		}

		html = ' \
		<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png" class="dsq-moderator-star" title="Moderator" /> \
		<span class="dsq-comment-header-time"><a href="#comment-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.permalink(' + post_id + ')" title="Permalink">' + (_meta.is_realtime ? Dsq.Strings.JUST_NOW : _meta.date) + '</a></span> '
		+ (_meta.parent_post_id && parent_display_name
			? '<a href="#comment-' + _meta.parent_post_id + '" title="Jump to comment">in reply to ' + parent_display_name + '</a>'
			: '')
		+ '</td> \
		<td id="dsq-like-pts-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-comment-header-likes">'
		+ (_meta.points
			? _meta.points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(_meta.points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this.'
			: '')
		+ '</td> \
		</tr> \
		</table> \
		';
		return html;
	};

	this.preBody = function(post_id) {
		var html = '';
		return html;
	};

	this.postFooter = function(post_id) {
		var html;
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		if(_meta.killed || !_meta.approved) { return ''; }
		
		html = ' \
		<div class="dsq-comment-footer" id="dsq-comment-footer-' + post_id + '"> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer-left">'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator
					? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.moderateOptions(' + post_id+ '); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.MODERATE + '</a>'
					: '')
				+ '<a href="#" id="dsq-post-report-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-post-report" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + post_id + ', false); return false;">' + Dsq.Strings.FLAG + '</a> \
			</div> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer-right">'
				+ (_meta.votable 
					? '<span id="dsq-like-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-like">'
					+ (!_meta.up_voted
						? '<button class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Post.rate(this, ' + post_id + ', 1)" >Like</button>'
						: 'You liked this.&nbsp;&nbsp;')
					+ '</span>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply && !_meta.has_replies && _meta.from_request_user
					? '<button class="dsq-button-small dsq-post-edit" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + ')" >' + Dsq.Strings.EDIT + '</button>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply
					? '<span class="dsq-comment-footer-reply" id="dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(' + post_id +', this)"> \
						<button class="dsq-button-small">' + Dsq.Strings.REPLY + '</button> \
						<button class="dsq-comment-footer-reply-tab">' + Dsq.Strings.REPLY + '</button><span></span> \
					</span>'
					: '')
			+ '</div> \
		</div> \
		';
		
		return html;
	};



	
	this.showRetweets = function(id, limit, element_id /* Optional */) {
		var source, html = '';

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			if (reaction.id === id) {
				source = reaction.retweets;
			}
		}

		if (source) {
			if (limit === 0) {
				limit = source.length;
			}

			for (var j = 0; j < limit; j++) {
				var rt = source[j];
				html += '<a href="' + rt.url + '">' + rt.author_name + '</a>'	+ ((j === (limit - 1)) ? '.' : ', ');
			}
		}

		if (element_id === undefined) {
			return html;
		}

		var element = document.getElementById(element_id);
		element.innerHTML = html;
		return element;
	};

	this.showMoreReactions = function(reactions, has_more, start, limit) {
		var link = document.getElementById('dsq-show-more-reactions');
		var container = link.parentNode;
		container.removeChild(link);

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = reactions[i]; i++) {
			var el = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (el) {
				container.innerHTML += el;
			}
		}

		if (has_more) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = start;
			var l = limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			container.innerHTML += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions" class="dsq-show-more-reactions"><button class="dsq-button-small" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</button></li>';
		}
	};

	this.generateReactionHTML = function(reaction) {
		if (reaction.body === null || reaction.body == '') {
			return;
		}

		if (reaction.author_name === '') {
			reaction.author_name = '&nbsp;';
		}

		if (reaction.url === '') {
			reaction.url = reaction.get_service_url;
		}

		var item = '<li class="dsq-comment dsq-reaction" id="dsq-reaction-' + reaction.id + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-comment-header"> \
			<table> \
			<tr> \
			<td class="dsq-header-avatar"> \
			';

		if (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== '') {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="' + reaction.author_url +'" class="dsq-avatar">';
		}

		if (reaction.avatar_url && reaction.avatar_url !== '') {
			item += '<img src="' + reaction.avatar_url + '"/>';
		} else {

			item += '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/noavatar92.png"/>';
		}

		var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
		item += (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== ''
				? '</a>'
				: '')
			+ '</td>'
			+ '<td><cite class="dsq-comment-cite">' + reaction.author_name + '</cite> <span class="dsq-comment-header-time">' + reaction.date_created + '</span></td>'
			+ '<td class="dsq-comment-header-likes"></td>'
			+ '</tr></table></div>' // end dsq-comment-header
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-header" \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-reaction-header-left">'
							+ '<img class="dsq-service-icon" src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/reactions/services/' + service_icon + '.png" />'
							+ ' From <a class="dsq-service-name" target="_blank" href="' + reaction.url + '">' + reaction.get_service_name + '</a> '
							+ 'via ' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? '<a href="http://backtype.com/">BackType</a>' : '<a href="' + reaction.source_url + '">UberVU</a>')
						+ '</td>'
						+ '<td class="dsq-reaction-header-right">';
			
			if(reaction.retweets) {
				var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
				if (num_retweets > 0) {
					if (num_retweets == 1) {
						item += 'One more retweet from <a href="' + reaction.retweets[0].url + '">'  + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '</a>';
					} else {
						item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');
						item += '<span id="dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '">';
						var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 3) ? 3 : num_retweets;
						item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);
						if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
							item += '</span> <a onclick="Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(' + reaction.id + ', 0, \'dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '\');'
								+ 'this.parentNode.removeChild(this); return false;" href="#">Show all</a>';
						}
					}
				}
			}	
			item += '</td></tr> \
			</table> \
			</div>' // end dsq-reaction-header
			+ '<div class="dsq-comment-body"> \
				<div class="dsq-comment-message">' + reaction.body + '</div>'
			+ '</div> \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer"> \
				<div class="dsq-comment-footer-left"> \
				</div>'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator 
					? ' \
					<div class="dsq-comment-footer-right"> \
						<button class="dsq-button-small dsq-hide-reaction" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.hide(' + reaction.id + ')">Hide</button> \
					</div>'
					: '')
			+ '</div>'
		item += '</li>'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
		return item;
	};

	this.reactions = function() {
		var html, reaction;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '';
		for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (item) {
				html += item;
			}
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
			var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			html += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions" class="dsq-show-more-reactions"><button class="dsq-button-small" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</button></li>';
		}

		return '<h3 id="dsq-reactions-title" class="dsq-h3-reactions">Reactions</h3><ul id="dsq-reactions" class="dsq-reactions">' + html + '</ul>';
	};
	
	this._popupGeneric = function(content) {
		return ' \
		<div class="dsq-popup-container"> \
			<table> \
				<tbody> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-tl"></td><td class="dsq-popup-b"></td><td class="dsq-popup-tr"></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-b"></td> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-body"> \
							<div class="dsq-popup-content"> \
								<div class="dsq-popup-title"> \
									<button class="dsq-button-small" style="float:right" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true)">Close</button>' 
									+ content['header'] 
								+ '</div>'
								+ content['body']
							+ '</div> \
							<div class="powered-by"><a href="http://disqus.com/comments/">Powered by <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-logo.png" alt="Disqus Comments" style="margin-bottom:-5px" /></a></div> \
						</td> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-b"></td> \
					</tr> \
					<tr> \
						<td class="dsq-popup-bl"></td><td class="dsq-popup-b"></td><td class="dsq-popup-br"></td> \
					</tr> \
				</tbody> \
			</table> \
		</div> \
		';
	};



	
	this.chooseSubscribe = function(post_id) {

		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var menu = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid);
		
		menu.style.display = menu.style.display == 'block' ? 'none' : 'block';
		
	};
	
	this.setSubscribe = function(value, el, post_id) {

		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var input = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-on-post' + pid);
		var select = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-select' + pid);
		var menu = Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-menu' + pid);
		
		select.innerHTML = el.innerHTML;
		input.value = value;
		this.chooseSubscribe(post_id);
	};
	
	this.getFormFields = function(post_id) {

		var fields = {};
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var name = Dsq.$('dsq-field-name' + pid);
		var email = Dsq.$('dsq-field-email' + pid);
		var website = Dsq.$('dsq-field-website' + pid);
		var username = Dsq.$('dsq-field-username' + pid);
		var password = Dsq.$('dsq-field-password' + pid);

		fields = {
			'name': name,
			'email': email,
			'website': website,
			'username': username,
			'password': password
		}
		
		return fields;
	}
	
	this.validateFields = function(post_id) {
		
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) { return true; }
		
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		
		var nameField = fields.name;
		var websiteField = fields.website;
		var emailField = fields.email;
		
		websiteField.value = (websiteField.value == Dsq.Templates.placeholder['website']) ? '' : websiteField.value;
		
		var v = [{

			validator: Dsq.Validators.name,
			value: nameField.value
		}, {

			validator: Dsq.Validators.email,
			value: emailField.value
		}, {

			validator: Dsq.Validators.url,
			value: websiteField.value
		}];
		
		return Dsq.Validators.validate(v, function(e) { Dsq.Popup.popModal(e, 'Oops...') } );
	};
	
	this.checkExistingUser = function(post_id) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);		
		Dsq.Popup.loading(post_id);
		
		if (post_id) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].getUserByEmail(fields.email.value);
		} else {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].getUserByEmail(fields.email.value);
		}
	};

	this.validateAuth = function(el_clicked, post_id, auth_choice) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		var email = fields.email ? fields.email.value : '';
		var username = fields.username ? fields.username.value : '';
		var password = fields.password ? fields.password.value : '';
		
		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
		
		if (post_id) {
			Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].validateAuth(auth_choice, email, username, password);
		} else {
			Dsq.frames['reply_0'].validateAuth(auth_choice, email, username, password);
		}
	};

	this.lightboxUpdateEmail = function(post_id, new_email) {
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		fields.email.value = new_email;
	};

	this.lightboxAuthenticate = function(post_id, auth_choice, auth_data) {
		var title, body;
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';

		if(typeof(auth_data) == 'undefined') {
			var auth_data = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);
		}

		d = auth_data;

		switch(auth_choice) {
			case 'register':
				var suggestedUsername = d.name.value.replace(/[^a-zA-Z0-9-]/g,'').toLowerCase();
			
				title = Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post ? 'Optional:' : 'Required:';
				title += ' Register a <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-profile.png" alt=Disqus Profile" />';

				body = ' \
				<ul class="dsq-lightbox-register-reasons"> \
				<li>Verify your comments</li> \
				<li>Edit and delete comments</li> \
				<li>Manage comments and replies</li> \
				</ul> \
				';

				body += ' \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-fields"> \
					<table> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Email</td> \
							<td><input type="text" value="' + d.email.value + '" onchange="Dsq.Templates.lightboxUpdateEmail(' + post_id + ', this.value)" /><div id="dsq-email-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Username</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-username' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + suggestedUsername + '"/><div id="dsq-username-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Password</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-password' + pid + '" type="password" /><div id="dsq-password-errors' + pid + '"></div></td> \
						</tr> \
					</table> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-switch-auth"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(' + post_id + ',\'login\'); return false">Login instead</a></div> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid + '" class="dsq-lightbox-errors"></div> \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-submit"> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-post"><button class="dsq-button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.validateAuth(this, ' + post_id + ',\'' + auth_choice + '\')">Register and Post comment</button></div>'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
						? '<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-skip"><button class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, true)">Just post as a Guest</button></div>'
						: '')
				+ '</div> \
				';
				break;
			case 'login':
				title = Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post ? 'Optional:' : 'Required:';
				title += ' Login to your <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-profile.png" alt=Disqus Profile" />';
				body = '';
				
				if(d.avatar_url) {
					body += '<div class="dsq-lightbox-recognized"><table><tr>';
					body += '<td><img src="' + d.avatar_url + '" alt="" /></td>';
					body += '<td><span class="dsq-badge ' + (d.verified ? 'dsq-badge-verified' : 'dsq-badge-registered') + '">' + (d.verified ? 'Verified' : 'Registered') + '</span></td>';
					body += '<td>Hey <strong>' + d.display_name + '</strong>, is that you? Login below to claim this comment.';
					body += '</tr></table></div>';
				}

				body += ' \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-fields"> \
					<table> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Username or Email</td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-username' + pid + '" type="text" value="' + (d.avatar_url ? d.username : '') + '" /></td> \
						</tr> \
						<tr> \
							<td>Password <a href="http://disqus.com/forgot" target="_blank">(cannot log in?)</a></td> \
							<td><input id="dsq-field-password' + pid + '" type="password" /></td> \
						</tr> \
					</table> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-switch-auth"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Templates.lightboxAuthenticate(' + post_id + ',\'register\'); return false">Register instead</a></div> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-lightbox-errors' + pid + '" class="dsq-lightbox-errors"></div> \
				<div class="dsq-lightbox-submit"> \
					<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-post"><button class="dsq-button" onclick="Dsq.Templates.validateAuth(this, ' + post_id + ',\'' + auth_choice + '\')">Login and Post comment</button></div>'
					+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
						? '<div class="dsq-lightbox-auth-skip"><button class="dsq-button-small" onclick="Dsq.Templates.postComment(' + post_id + ', this, true)">Just post as a Guest</button></div>'
						: '')
				+ '</div> \
				';
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}
		Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
		Dsq.$('dsq-field-username' + pid).focus();
	};
	
	this.buttonsToRestore = [];
	this.setLoadingButton = function(btn, post_id) {
		var pid = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		if (btn) {

			var loadingBtn = document.createElement('button');
			loadingBtn.id = btn.id + '-loading';
			loadingBtn.innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-lite.gif" alt="" /> Just a moment...';
			loadingBtn.className = btn.className + ' dsq-post-loading';
			btn.parentNode.appendChild(loadingBtn);
			btn.style.display = 'none';
			var cancelBtn = Dsq.$('dsq-cancel-button' + pid);
			if(cancelBtn) { cancelBtn.style.display = 'none'; this.buttonsToRestore.push(cancelBtn); }
			this.buttonsToRestore.push(btn);
		} else {

			var buttons = this.buttonsToRestore;
			for(var i = 0; i < buttons.length; i++) {
				buttons[i].style.display = 'inline';
				Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$(buttons[i].id + '-loading'));
			}
		}
		
	};

	this.postComment = function(post_id, el_clicked, force, auth_choice) {
		var append_id = post_id ? '-' + post_id : '';
		var fields = Dsq.Templates.getFormFields(post_id);

		if (Dsq.Templates.validateFields(post_id)) {

			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && !force &&
				((!Dsq.Utils.readCookie('skipped_auth') && !disqus_skip_auth && !Dsq.jsonData.forum.disqus_auth_disabled) || !Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post)) {
				Dsq.Templates.checkExistingUser(post_id);
				return false;
			}
			var params = [];
			if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
				params.push(fields.name.value,
					fields.email.value,
					fields.website.value);

				if (auth_choice == 'login' || auth_choice == 'register') {
					params.push({
						auth_choice: auth_choice,
						username: fields.username.value,
						password: fields.password.value,
						email: fields.email.value
					});
				} else {
					params.push(null);
				}

				params.push(null /* sharing options */, Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe-on-post' + append_id).value);
			} else {
				var service_checked = function(name) {
					var el = Dsq.$('dsq-sharing-' + name + append_id);
					return (el !== null && el.checked === true) ? '1' : '0';
				};
				params.push(null, null, null, null, {
					tw: service_checked('twitter'),
					fb: service_checked('facebook'),
					tr: service_checked('tumblr'),
					wp: service_checked('wordpress'),
					mt: service_checked('movabletype'),
					tp: service_checked('typepad'),
					yh: service_checked('yahoo')
				});
			}

			var frame = Dsq.frames['reply_' + (post_id ? post_id : 0)];
			frame.post.apply(frame, params);

			if (el_clicked) {
				Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
			}
			
			if (force) {
				Dsq.Utils.createCookie('skipped_auth', true);	
			}
			
		} else {
			return false;
		}
	};

	this.editComment = function(el_clicked, post_id) {
		var edited_message = Dsq.$('dsq-edit-textarea-' + post_id).value;

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked, post_id);
		Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].edit(post_id, edited_message);
	};

	this.toggleEdit = function(post_id) {
		var body = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-body-' + post_id);
		var message = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + post_id);

		if (!Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id]) {


			message.style.display = 'none';
			if (Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id)) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id).style.display = 'block';
			} else {

				var edit_area = document.createElement('div');
				edit_area.id = 'dsq-edit-' + post_id;
				edit_area.className = 'dsq-edit dsq-textarea';
				edit_area.innerHTML = ' \
				<div class="dsq-textarea-wrapper"> \
					<textarea class="dsq-edit-textarea" id="dsq-edit-textarea-' + post_id + '">' + message.innerHTML + '</textarea> \
				</div> \
				<div class="dsq-save-edit"> \
					<button onclick="Dsq.Templates.editComment(this, ' + post_id + ')" class="dsq-button-small">Save Edit</button> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-edit-iframe-' + post_id + '" style="display: none"></div> \
				';

				body.appendChild(edit_area);

				if (!Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id]) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$('dsq-edit-iframe-' + post_id), post_id);
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].init();
					Dsq.frames['edit_' + post_id].setState(post_id, _meta.depth);
				}
			}
		} else {

			message.style.display = 'block';
			Dsq.$('dsq-edit-' + post_id).style.display = 'none';
		}
		
		Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id] = !Dsq.Post.stateEditToggled[post_id];
	};
	
	this.edit = function(el, post_id) {

		Dsq.Templates.toggleEdit(post_id);
	};

	this.toggleReply = function(post_id, button) {
		
		if(!this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]) {

			if (Dsq.$('dsq-reply-post-' + post_id)) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).style.display = 'block';
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.postBox(post_id);
				var container = Dsq.$('dsq-textarea-wrapper-' + post_id);
				if (!Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id] && container) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(container, post_id);
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].init(function() {

						Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.postBox(post_id, true);
						Dsq.$('dsq-form-area-' + post_id).innerHTML = '';

						var theme = (typeof disqus_frame_theme == 'undefined') ? 'default' : disqus_frame_theme;
						Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-form-area-' + post_id), post_id, {theme: theme});

					});
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + post_id].setState(post_id, _meta.depth);
				}
			}
			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-append-post';
			Dsq.$('dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-comment-footer-reply-active';
			
		} else {

			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).style.display = 'none';
			Dsq.$('dsq-append-post-' + post_id).className = '';
			Dsq.$('dsq-comment-footer-reply-' + post_id).className = 'dsq-comment-footer-reply';
		}
		
		this.stateReplyToggled[post_id] = !this.stateReplyToggled[post_id];

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie && this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]) {

		}

		Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED, {
			postId: post_id,
			opened: this.stateReplyToggled[post_id]
		});
	};
	
	this.moderateOptions = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		
		if(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator && !Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator) { return false; }

		var html;
		
		html = ' \
		<div class="dsq-moderate-options"> \
		<table>'
		+ (_meta.email ? '<tr><td>Email</td><td>' + _meta.email + '</td></tr>' : '')
		+ (_meta.ip ? '<tr><td>IP address</td><td>' + _meta.ip + '</td></tr>' : '')
		+ '<tr> \
			<td>Actions</td> \
			<td><ul>'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.moderator_can_edit
				? '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Edit Comment</a></li>'
				: '')
			+ '<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.removePost(' + post_id + ', 1); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Delete Comment</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.reportSpam(' + post_id + '); Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false;">Mark Spam</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.blacklist(' + post_id + '); return false">Block User</a></li> \
			</ul></td> \
			</table> \
		</div> \
		';
		
		html += '<p>Go to the full <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/moderate/" target="_blank">moderate panel</a> for more options.</p>';
		
		return Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, 'Moderate Options', post_id);
	};
	
	this.placeholder = {
		'class': 'dsq-placeholder',
		'name': Dsq.Strings.NAME,
		'email': Dsq.Strings.EMAIL,
		'website': Dsq.Strings.WEBSITE + ' (' + Dsq.Strings.OPTIONAL.toLowerCase() + ')'
	};
	
	this.handlePlaceholder = function(evt, el, key) {
		var placeholder = Dsq.Templates.placeholder[key];
		var className = Dsq.Templates.placeholder['class'];
		
		switch(evt.type) {
			case 'focus':
				if(el.value == placeholder) {
					el.value = '';
					el.className = '';
				}
				break;

			case 'blur':
				if(el.value == '') {
					el.value = placeholder;
					el.className = className;
				}
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}
	};
	
	this.paginate = function(page, el_clicked) {

		var extra_params = '';

		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&per_page=' + disqus_per_page;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_sort != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&sort=' + disqus_sort;
		}

		Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML += '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
		
		if(el_clicked) {
			Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(el_clicked);
		}
		
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'will_rick_warren_get_a_pass_while_jeremiah_wright_is_flung_under_the_bus'
			+ '&p='		+ page
			+ extra_params);
	};
	
	
	this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {


		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
			if(vote == 1) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-like-' + id).innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
			}
			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/vote.js'
				+ '?post_id='    + id
				+ '&vote='        + vote);
		} else {
			Dsq.Popup.login('To rate, please log in');
		}
	};

	this.voted = function(post_id, points, vote) {

		Dsq.$('dsq-like-pts-' + post_id).innerHTML = points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this.';

		if(vote) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-like-' + post_id).innerHTML = 'You liked this.&nbsp;&nbsp;';
		}
	};




	this.postComment_onSuccess = function(response, parent_post_id, post_id) {
		var approved = response.message.post_meta.approved;

		if (parent_post_id) {
			Dsq.Post.toggleReply(parent_post_id);
		}

		Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
		
		if (approved) {
			Dsq.Post.incrementPostCount();
			Dsq.Post.outlineComment(post_id);
		} else {			
			var unapproved_msg = 'Thanks for posting!\
	 Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.\
			';
			Dsq.Popup.popModal(unapproved_msg, 'Comment awaiting approval', post_id);
		}

		var sharing_results = response.message.sharing_results;
		var sharing_errors = '';
		for (var service in sharing_results) {
			if (sharing_results.hasOwnProperty(service) === true) {
				if (sharing_results[service].error === true) {
					sharing_errors += service + ', ';
				}
			}
		}

		if (sharing_results.facebook && sharing_results.facebook.callback) {
			FB.ensureInit(function() {
				FB.Connect.streamPublish('', sharing_results.facebook.attachment);
			});
		}

		if (sharing_errors !== '') {
			var message = 'Your comment was posted, but there were errors sharing with the following connections: ';
			message += sharing_errors.replace(/,\s$/, '');
			message += '<p><a href="' + Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + '/profile/connections" target="_blank">Configure your connections here</a></p>'
			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, 'Sharing options');
		}

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};

	this.postComment_onFailure = function(response, parent_post_id, post_id) {

		Dsq.Templates.setLoadingButton(false);
	};
};




// TODO: It might be faster to use string methods to find all <li (...) </li> blocks and pass to Dsq.PostHandler manually.
Dsq.CommentsHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_post = Dsq.Templates.prependPost(post_id);
	var append_post = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(post_id);

	content = content.replace(Dsq.POST_RE, Dsq.PostHandler);
	Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter++;
	head = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContainer(post_id, head);
	return prepend_post + head + content + tail + append_post;
};

Dsq.PostHandler = function(str, h_head, post_id, h_content, h_tail, b_head, b_content, b_tail, offset, s) {
	var prepend_header = Dsq.Templates.postPrependHeader(post_id);
	var append_header = Dsq.Templates.postAppendHeader(post_id);
	var prepend_body = Dsq.Templates.preBody(post_id);
	var append_body = Dsq.Templates.postBody(post_id);
	var append_footer = Dsq.Templates.postFooter(post_id);

	b_content = b_content.replace(Dsq.POST_BODY_RE, Dsq.PostBodyHandler);
	return h_head + prepend_header + h_content + append_header + h_tail + b_head + prepend_body + b_content + append_body + b_tail + append_footer;
};

Dsq.PostBodyHandler = function(str, head, post_id, content, tail, offset, s) {
	content = Dsq.Templates.Filters.commentContent(post_id, content);
	return head + content + tail;
};

Dsq.MediaPostHandler = function(str, args, offset, s) {
	args = args.split(' ');
	if(args[0] == 'seesmic') {
		return '<br />' + Dsq.Templates.mediaSeesmic(args[1], args[2]);
	}
	return '';
};


/**
 * Shorcuts
 */
Dsq.$ = function(element) { return document.getElementById(element); };
Dsq.$b = document.body || document.getElementsByTagName('body')[0];


/**
 * Dsq.Debug: Logging functions.
 */

Dsq.Debug = new function() {this.log=function(s){};this.profile=function(f){if(typeof f == 'function')return f();else return eval(f);};};


/**
 * Dsq.Urls: URL paths
 */
Dsq.Urls = new function() {
	this.LOGIN = '/profile/login/';
	this.LOGOUT = '/logout/';
	this.REPLY = 'http://jackandjillpolitics.disqus.com/will_rick_warren_get_a_pass_while_jeremiah_wright_is_flung_under_the_bus/reply.html';
	this.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE = '/AnonymousUser/';
	this.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR = 'http://media.disqus.com/images/noavatar92.png';
};
// Dsq.Urls

/**
 * Dsq.Validators: Validation for form fields
 */
Dsq.Validators = new function() {
	this.VALID_EMAIL_RE = /^[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*\@(([a-z0-9\-\_\+]+(\.[a-z0-9\-\_\+]+)*)+\.[a-z]{2,}|([0-9]+\.){3}[0-9]+)$/i;
	this.name = function(name) {
		var error = false;

		if(typeof Dsq.Templates.placeholder !== 'undefined' &&
		   name == Dsq.Templates.placeholder.name) {
			error = true;
		}
		if(name.length <= 1) {
			error = true;
		}

		if(error) {
			return "Please enter a name to comment.";
		} else {
			return true;
		}
	};
	this.email = function(addr) {
		if(Dsq.Validators.VALID_EMAIL_RE.test(addr)) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please enter a valid email to comment.";
		}
	};
	this.url = function(addr) {
		if(!addr || addr.indexOf('.') != -1) {
			return true;
		} else {
			return "Please check your website URL (this field is optional).";
		}
	};

	this.validate = function(bulk_validation, failure_callback) {
		failure_callback = failure_callback || function(e){ alert(e); };

		for(var i = 0; i < bulk_validation.length; i++) {
			v = bulk_validation[i];
			ret = v.validator(v.value);
			if(ret !== true) {
				failure_callback(ret);
				return false;
			}
		}
		return true;
	};
};

/**
 * Dsq.Utils: Generic utility functions.
 */
Dsq.Utils = new function() {
	this.ie = /msie/i.test(navigator.userAgent) && !/opera/i.test(navigator.userAgent);
	this.ie7 = (document.all && !window.opera && window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true : false;
	this.ie6 = (!window.XMLHttpRequest) ? true: false;
	this.webkit = navigator.userAgent.indexOf('AppleWebKit/') >= 0;
	this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache = {};
	this._styleSheet = null;

	this.gebiFromElement = function(el, id, tag) {
		// This only method only helps IE.
		if(!this.ie) {
			return Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var cacheKey = el.id + '-' + tag;
			tag = tag || 'div';
			if(typeof this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] != 'undefined') {
				collection = this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey];
			} else {
				collection = el.getElementsByTagName(tag);
				this.gebiFromElementCollectionCache[cacheKey] = collection;
			}

			for(var i = 0; i < collection.length; i++) {
				if(collection[i].id == id) {
					return collection[i];
				}
			}
			return null;
		}
	};

	this.execOnReady = function(func) {
		var node = document.createElement('document:ready');
		try {
			node.doScroll('left');
			func();
			node = null;
		} catch(err) {
			setTimeout(function() { Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(func); }, 10);
		}
	};


	// Courtesy of http://www.quirksmode.org/js/cookies.html
	this.createCookie = function(name,value,days) {
		if (days) {
			var date = new Date();
			date.setTime(date.getTime()+(days*24*60*60*1000));
			var expires = "; expires="+date.toGMTString();
		}
		else var expires = "";
		document.cookie = name+"="+value+expires+"; path=/";
	};

	this.readCookie = function(name) {
		var nameEQ = name + "=";
		var ca = document.cookie.split(';');
		for(var i=0;i < ca.length;i++) {
			var c = ca[i];
			while (c.charAt(0)==' ') c = c.substring(1,c.length);
			if (c.indexOf(nameEQ) == 0) return c.substring(nameEQ.length,c.length);
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.eraseCookie = function(name) {
		Dsq.Utils.createCookie(name,"",-1);
	};

	this.deleteNode = function(node) {
		if(node) {
			this.deleteChildren(node);
			if(typeof node.outerHTML != 'undefined') { node.outerHTML = ''; }
			else if(node.parentNode) { node.parentNode.removeChild(node); }
			delete node;
		}
	};

	this.deleteChildren = function(node) {
		if(node) {
			for(var x = node.childNodes.length-1; x >= 0; x--) {
				var childNode = node.childNodes[x];
				if(childNode.hasChildNodes()) { this.deleteChildren(childNode); }
				if(typeof childNode.outerHTML != 'undefined') { childNode.outerHTML = ''; }
				else node.removeChild(childNode);
				delete childNode;
			}
		}
	};

	this.findPos = function(obj) {
		var curleft = 0;
		var curtop = 0;
		if (obj.offsetParent) {
			do {
				curleft += obj.offsetLeft;
				curtop += obj.offsetTop;
			} while (obj = obj.offsetParent);
		}
		return [curleft,curtop];
	};

	this.getWindowSize = function() {
		var windowWidth = -1;
		var windowHeight = -1;

		if(typeof(window.innerWidth) == 'number') { //Non-IE
			windowWidth = window.innerWidth;
			windowHeight = window.innerHeight;
		} else if(document.documentElement) { // IE 6+ in 'standards compliant mode'
			windowWidth = document.documentElement.clientWidth || document.body.clientWidth;
			windowHeight = document.documentElement.clientHeight || document.body.clientHeight;
		}

		return [windowWidth, windowHeight];
	}

	this.getScrollPos = function() {
		var scrollWidth, scrollTop;

		if(document.documentElement && (document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.documentElement.scrollWidth)) {
			scrollWidth = document.documentElement.scrollWidth;
			// IE is weird here.  If no doctype is provided, document.body.scrollTop is 0,
			// otherwise document.documentElement.scrollTop is 0.
			scrollTop = document.documentElement.scrollTop || document.body.scrollTop;
		} else if(document.body.scrollTop && document.body.scrollWidth) {
			scrollWidth = document.body.scrollWidth;
			scrollTop = document.body.scrollTop;
		}

		return [scrollWidth, scrollTop];
	}

	this.addEventListener = function(instance, eventName, listener) {
		var listenerFn = listener;
		if (instance.addEventListener) {
			instance.addEventListener(eventName, listenerFn, false);
		} else if (instance.attachEvent) {
			listenerFn = function() {
				listener(window.event);
			};
			instance.attachEvent("on" + eventName, listenerFn);
		} else {
			throw new Error("Event registration not supported");
		}
		return {
			instance: instance,
			name: eventName,
			listener: listenerFn
		};
	};

	this.removeEventListener = function(event) {
		var instance = event.instance;
		if (instance.removeEventListener) {
			instance.removeEventListener(event.name, event.listener, false);
		} else if (instance.detachEvent) {
			instance.detachEvent("on" + event.name, event.listener);
		}
	};

	this.fixIframesIE = function(id) {
		var disqusThread = Dsq.$(disqus_container_id);
		var iframes = disqusThread.getElementsByTagName('iframe');

		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$(id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-content');
		}

		for(i = 0; i < iframes.length; i++) {
			if (container) {
				iframes[i].style.width = container.offsetWidth;
			}
		}
	};

	this.getElementsByClassName = function(oElm, strTagName, strClassName) {
	/* Credit: Jonathan Snook [http://www.snook.ca/jonathan], Robert Nyman [http://www.robertnyman.com] */
		var arrElements = (strTagName == "*" && oElm.all)? oElm.all : oElm.getElementsByTagName(strTagName);
		var arrReturnElements = new Array();
		strClassName = strClassName.replace(/\-/g, "\\-");
		var oRegExp = new RegExp("(^|\\s)" + strClassName + "(\\s|$)");
		var oElement;
		for(var i = 0; i < arrElements.length; i++) {
			oElement = arrElements[i];
			if(oRegExp.test(oElement.className)) {
				arrReturnElements.push(oElement);
			}
		}
		return (arrReturnElements);
	};

	this.postToUrl = function(url, post_data, opt_redirect) {
		var form = document.createElement('form');
		var iframe_container = document.createElement('div');
		var id = 'dsq-temp-iframe-' + (new Date()).getTime();

		form.method = 'POST';
		form.action = url;
		if (!opt_redirect) {
			form.target = id;
		}
		iframe_container.innerHTML = '<iframe style="display:none" name="' + id + '" id="' + id + '"></iframe>';

		for(var key in post_data) {
			if(post_data.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var input = document.createElement('input');
				input.name = key;
				input.type = 'hidden';
				input.value = post_data[key];

				form.appendChild(input);
			}
		}

		Dsq.$b.appendChild(iframe_container);
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(form);
		form.submit();
	};

	// Strips integer id from id of element in the form ('some-id-###')
	this.extractId = function(e) {
		var chunks = e.id.split('-');
		if(chunks.length <= 1) {
			return 0;
		} else {
			return parseInt(chunks[chunks.length-1]);
		}
	};

	this.getStyle = function(el, styleProp) {
		if(el.currentStyle) {
			var y = el.currentStyle[styleProp];
		} else if(window.getComputedStyle) {
			var y = document.defaultView.getComputedStyle(el, null).getPropertyValue(styleProp);
		}

		if(y == 'transparent' || y == '') {
			this.getStyle(el.parentNode, styleProp);
		} else {
			return y;
		}
	};

	this.execScript = function(url, append_qs, container) {
		var script = document.createElement('script');
		append_qs = typeof append_qs == 'undefined' ? true : append_qs;
		container = container || Dsq.container;

		if(append_qs) {
			var j = (url.indexOf('?') >= 0) ? '&' : '?';
			url += j + (new Date()).getTime();
		}
		script.type = 'text/javascript';
		script.charset = 'UTF-8';
		script.src = url;
		container.appendChild(script);
		return script;
	};

	this.pluralize = function(num, singular, plural) {
		return (num != 1) ? plural || 's' : singular || '';
	};

	this.getRequestParams = function(queryString /* optional */) {
		var pairs, tuple;
		var params = {};

		queryString = queryString || window.location.search.substring(1);
		pairs = queryString.split('&');

		for (var i = 0, pair; pair = pairs[i]; i++) {
			tuple = pair.split('=');
			params[tuple[0]] = (tuple[1] || true);
		}

		return params;
	};

	this.addCssRule = function(selector, styleText, index) {
		var stylesheet;
		index = index || 0;

		if(!this._styleSheet) {
			var styleEl = document.createElement('style');
			document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(styleEl);
			this._styleSheet = styleEl.sheet;
			if(!this._styleSheet) {
				// IE does not like our newly created stylesheet.
				this._styleSheet = document.styleSheets[document.styleSheets.length-1];
			}
		}
		stylesheet = this._styleSheet;

		if(stylesheet.insertRule) {
			var ruleText = selector + ' { ' + styleText + ' }';
			if(index == -1) {
				index = stylesheet.cssRules.length;
			}
			stylesheet.insertRule(ruleText, index);
		} else if(stylesheet.addRule) {
			stylesheet.addRule(selector, styleText, index);
		}
	};

	this.forEachIn = function(obj, callback) {
		for(var key in obj) {
			if(obj.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				callback(key, obj[key]);
			}
		}
	};

	this._interpolateGlobalContext = {
		// values that get used a lot and are global to the request
		'profile_url': Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE,

		'disqus_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url,
		'media_url': Dsq.jsonData.settings.media_url,
		'request_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.username,
		'request_display_username': Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username,
		'forum_name': Dsq.jsonData.forum.name
	};

	this.renderFromContextStack = function(key, contexts) {
		// Returns the first instance of `key` in the array of objects `contexts` or else ''
		for (var i=0; i<contexts.length; i++) {
			if (contexts[i][key] !== undefined) {
				return String(contexts[i][key]);
			}
		}
		throw new Error('key ' + key + ' not found in context');
	};

	var that = this;
	this.interpolate = function(fmt, opt_localContext) {
		// Interpolate `fmt` named-format string with an assumed global context.
		// Based on `interpolate` in django.views.i18n
		var contextStack = [opt_localContext || {}, that._interpolateGlobalContext];
		return fmt.replace(/%\(\w+\)s/g, function(match){
			return that.renderFromContextStack(match.slice(2,-2), contextStack);
		});
	};

	this.stripTags = function(s) {
		// Removes HTML tags from `s`
		return s.replace(/(<([^>]+)>)/g,"");

	};

	this.assert = function(b) {
		if (!b) {
			throw new Error('Assertion error.');
		}
	};

};
// Dsq.Utils

/**
 * Dsq.Popup: Popup helper functions.
 */
Dsq.Popup = new function() {
	this.timeHide = new Array();
	this.timeShow = new Array();
	this.activePopup = {};
	this.profileCache = {};
	this.statusCache = {};

	this.showTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the hide timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeHide[post_id]);

		// start the timer
		if(!Dsq.Popup.profileIsOn && !Dsq.Thread.adminIsOn) {
			this.timeShow[post_id] = setTimeout("Dsq.Popup.popProfile(\"" + post_id + "\")", 400);
		}
	};

	this.hideTimer = function(post_id) {
		// clear the show timer
		clearTimeout(this.timeShow[post_id]);
	};

	this.updateProfile = function(username) {
		// Callback from /embed/profile.js
		if (this.statusCache[username]) {
			var statusEl = Dsq.$('dsq-profile-status-' + username);
			statusEl.innerHTML = this.statusCache[username];
			statusEl.style.display = 'block';
		}

		if (this.profileCache[username]) {
			var _cache = this.profileCache[username];

			var _genhtml = function(text) { return '<span><big>' + text + '</big></span>'; };
			var _no_comments = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_COMMENTS(_cache.comments_count));
			var _no_likes = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_LIKES(_cache.likes_count));
			var _no_points = _genhtml(Dsq.FmtStrings.NUMBER_OF_POINTS(_cache.points));

			var statsEl = Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + username);
			statsEl.innerHTML = '';

			if (Dsq.jsonData.users[username].registered) {
				statsEl.innerHTML = _no_comments + _no_likes;
			}
			statsEl.innerHTML += _no_points;

			var activeSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.active_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.active_sites[i];
				activeSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (activeSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = activeSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + username).innerHTML = 'This site.';
			}

			var moderatedSites = '';
			for (var i = 0; i < _cache.moderated_sites.length; i++) {
				var site = _cache.moderated_sites[i];
				moderatedSites += '<li><a href="' + site.url + '"> \
					<img src="' + site.favicon + '"/ width="16" height="16"/></a>\
					<a href="' + site.url + '">' + site.name + '</a></li>';
			}
			if (moderatedSites !== '') {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + username).innerHTML = moderatedSites;
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + username).innerHTML = '';
			}
		}

		// Reposition popup after full HTML is rendered
		if(Dsq.Popup.activePopup && Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el) {
			Dsq.Popup.initPopup(Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id, Dsq.Popup.activePopup.type);
		}

	};

	this.showCookieMsgs = function() {
		var title = '';
		var message = '';
		var numAlerts = 0;

		Dsq.Utils.forEachIn(Dsq.jsonData.cookie_messages, function(k, v) {
			if (!v) return;

			switch(k) {
				// Cookie: Twitter
				case 'post_twitter':
					if (v === 'error') {
						title = 'Twitter Error!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-error">Oops, we couldn\'t tweet this comment. Please check your <a href="http://disqus.com/account/services">account settings</a>.</li>';
					} else {
						var _msg = v.split(':');
						title = 'Tweeted!';
						message += '<li id="dsq-msg-twitter-success">Your comment was successfully tweeted. <a href="http://twitter.com/' + _msg[0] + '/status/' + _msg[1] + '">Click here to view the tweet</a>.</li>';
					}
					break;
				// Cookie: Unapproved Post
				case 'post_not_approved':
					title = 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-not-approved">Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.</li>';
					break;
				// Cookie: Profile Found
				case 'post_has_profile':
					title = 'Use your existing commenter profile';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-post-has-profile">You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a></li>';
					break;
				case 'user_created':
					var _data = v.split(':');
					title = 'Profile created!';
					message += '<li id="dsq-msg-user-created">You have just created a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, the best way to claim, manage, and track your comments all over the web. \
					<br /><br />A confirmation is being sent to <strong>' + _data[1] + '</strong>. Please check for this email in order to verify your profile. \
					<ul class="dsq-list-tick"> \
						<li>Your username is <strong>' + _data[0] +'</strong>. <a href="http://disqus.com/people/' + _data[0] + '/" target="_blank">Click here to view your public profile</a>.</li> \
						<li>Be sure to set your profile picture, as well as connect your <span class="dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> and <span class="dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> accounts. <a href="http://disqus.com/account/" target="_blank">Click here for account settings</a>.</li> \
					</ul> \
					</li>'
					break;
				default:
					break;
			}
			numAlerts++;
		});

		if(numAlerts > 1) {
			message = '<ul class="dsq-list-bluebullet">' + message;
			message += '</ul>';
			title = 'Thanks for posting!';
		}
		if(numAlerts > 0) {
			if(typeof(disqus_cookie_msgs) == 'function') {
				disqus_cookie_msgs(message, title);
			} else {
				Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
			}
		}
	};

	this.helpBadges = function(post_id) {
		var html = ' \
			<ul class="dsq-popup-help"> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile with a confirmed email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> has a <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> Profile, but has not yet confirmed his or her email address.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span> is not logged in with any account and has not claimed his or her comments.</li> \
				<li class="dsq-help-otheraccts">Other accounts</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-facebook">Facebook</span> is using his or her Facebook profile via Facebook Connect.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-twitter">Twitter</span> is using his or her Twitter profile via Twitter Sign-in.</li> \
				<li><span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-openid">OpenID</span> is using his or her OpenID.</li> \
			</ul> \
		';

		this.popModal(html, 'Help: Types of Commenters', post_id);
		return;
	};

	this.permalink = function(post_id) {
		var header = 'Link to this comment';
		var body = '<strong>You are anchored to</strong>:<br />' + document.location.protocol + '//' + document.location.host + document.location.pathname + document.location.search + '#comment-' + post_id;

		this.popModal(body, header, post_id);
	};

	this.login = function(header, body) {
		var h = header || 'Login or Register';
		var b = body || '';
		b += Dsq.Templates.frameLogin({id: 'dsq-popup-login'});
		b += '</iframe>'; // HACK: Sometimes there is something funky with the IFRAME SRC that causes no end tag
		this.popModal(b, h, null, true, 'dsq-popup-login');
	};

	this.blacklist = function(id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		var title = 'Add to Blacklist';
		var message = ' \
		Adding this person to the blacklist will block him or her from commenting on this site. Check the following types that you would like to add to the blacklist:'
		+ (userData['registered'] ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-username" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-username"><strong>Username</strong>: ' + userData['username'] + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ (_meta.email ?
			'<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
				<input id="dsq-blacklist-email" type="checkbox" checked> \
				<label for="dsq-blacklist-email"><strong>Email address</strong>: ' + _meta.email + '</label> \
			</div>'
			: '')
		+ '<div class="dsq-blacklist-option"> \
			<input id="dsq-blacklist-ip" type="checkbox" onclick="Dsq.$(\'dsq-blacklist-ip-warning\').style.display=\'block\'"> \
			<label for="dsq-blacklist-ip"><strong>IP address</strong>: ' + _meta.ip + '</label> \
		</div> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p id="dsq-blacklist-ip-warning" style="display:none">	\
				Note: Blocking this person\'s IP address may also unintentionally prevent others, who share his/her IP address, from commenting on this site. \
				This may include people who are sharing the same computer, living in the same house, or using the same Internet provider. Only block an IP address as a last resort. \
			</p> \
		';

		message += ' \
			<p style="text-align:center"><button onclick="Dsq.Post.blockUser(' + id + '); this.disabled=true; this.innerHTML=\'Just one moment...\'">Add to Blacklist</button></p> \
		';

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
	};

	this.remoteAccountSettings = function() {
		var body = '';
		// Set up IFrame.
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/_auth/embed/remote_settings/';
		var attributes = {id: 'dsq-popup-account-settings'};
		if (typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}

		body = Dsq.Templates._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
		this.popModal(body, 'Account Settings', null, true, 'dsq-popup-account-settings');
	};

	this.popModal = function(message, title, post_id, use_listener, extra_classes) {
		var container = document.createElement('div');
		var header, body;

		Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);

		if(typeof(title) == 'undefined') { title = ''; }
		if(typeof(use_listener) == 'undefined') { use_listener = true; }

		if(post_id) {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message-' + post_id;
		} else {
			container.id = 'dsq-popup-message';
		}

		header = title;
		body = message;

		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupModal(header, body);
		Dsq.Popup.initPopup(container, post_id, 'message', extra_classes);
		if(use_listener) {
			Dsq.Popup.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', Dsq.Popup._closePopup);
		}
	};

	this.popAlert = this.popModal;

	this.loading = function(post_id) {
		var title = Dsq.Strings.JUST_A_MOMENT;
		var body = '<div style="text-align:center; padding: 5px 0 10px 0"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif" alt="" /></div>'
		Dsq.Popup.lightbox(body, title, post_id);
	};

	this.lightbox = function(message, title, post_id) {
		// Wraps Dsq.Popup.popModal

		var overlay = document.createElement('div');
		overlay.id = 'dsq-overlay';
		overlay.className = 'dsq-overlay';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(overlay);
		
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, post_id, false, 'dsq-lightbox');
	};

	this.popProfile = function(post_id, userKey) {
		var post = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id];
		if (post && post.has_been_anonymized) {
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('This message was anonymized by its previous owner.', 'Anonymized', post_id);
			return;
		}

		if(post_id) {
			userKey = Dsq.jsonData['posts'][post_id].user_key;	
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][userKey];
		var elId = 'dsq-popup-profile-' + userKey;
		var container = document.createElement('div');

		if(this.activePopup.el) {
			this._closePopup(null, true);
			if(this.activePopup.linkClicked) {
				this.activePopup.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		container.id = elId;
		container.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.popupProfile(userKey);

		this.initPopup(container, post_id, 'profile');
		this.popupListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._closePopup);

		if(!this.profileCache[userKey]) {
			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/embed/profile.js'
				+ '?username=' + userKey
				+ '&anon=' + (userData['registered'] ? 0 : 1)
				+ '&f=' + Dsq.jsonData['request'].forum);
		} else {
			this.updateProfile(userKey);
		}
	};

	this._closePopup = function(e, force) {
		var activePopup = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.el;
		var id = Dsq.Popup.activePopup.id;
		var link = 'dsq-avatar-' + id; // HACK: Specific to profile toggle target

		// HACK: This event should be gone if there is no active popup.
		if(!activePopup) {
			return;
		}
		if(force || !Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, activePopup.id)) {
			// TODO: This is breaking iE?
			if(Dsq.Popup.popupListener) {
				Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Popup.popupListener);
			}
			
			// Kill overlay
			var overlay = Dsq.$('dsq-overlay');
			if(overlay) { Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(overlay); }
			
			try {
				Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(activePopup);
			} catch(e) {
				// HACK: IE6 throws an error when using deleteNode() with a node containing a <table> in the html.
				activePopup.parentNode.removeChild(activePopup);
			}
			Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {};
		}

		if(!force && Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Popup.activePopup.linkClicked = true;
		}

	};

	this.initPopup = function(popup, post_id, type, extra_classes) {
		popup.className = 'dsq-popup dsq-popup-' + type + ' ' + (extra_classes ? extra_classes : '');
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6 || Dsq.Utils.ie7) {
			// HACK: We can't modify the body before it's ready, so we need
			//       to use an IE-safe "DOMReady" workaround before loading
			//       our popup.
			Dsq.Utils.execOnReady(function() {Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup); });
		} else {
			Dsq.$b.appendChild(popup);
		}

		popup.style.display = 'block';

		var xPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[0] - popup.offsetWidth) / 2;
		var yPos = (Dsq.Utils.getWindowSize()[1] - popup.offsetHeight) / 2;

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) {
			yPos += Dsq.Utils.getScrollPos()[1];
		}

		popup.style.left = xPos + 'px';
		popup.style.top = yPos + 'px';

		Dsq.Popup.activePopup = {
			'el' : popup,
			'id' : post_id,
			'type': type,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};
	};

	this.isClicked = function(e, id) {
		var t = e.target || e.srcElement;
		while(t && t.parentNode) {
			if(t.id == id) {
				return true;
			}

			t = t.parentNode;
		}
		return false;
	};
};
// Dsq.Popup

/**
 * Dsq.Templates
 */
Dsq.Templates = new function() {
	/*
	 * Counter keeping track of the number of posts iterated over.
	 */
	this.postLoopCounter = 0;
	this.filters = {};
	this.addPostContainer = 'dsq-post-add';
	this.textareaContainer = 'dsq-post-add';

	this.registerTemplate = function(name, func) {
		this['$$_' + name] = func;

		if(typeof DsqLocal.Filters != 'undefined'
		&& typeof DsqLocal.Filters[name] == 'function') {
			// Push filters to this.filters to unify code.
			this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
			this.filters[name].push(DsqLocal.Filters[name]);
		}

		this[name] = function() {
			var ret;

			if(typeof DsqLocal.Templates != 'undefined'
			&& typeof DsqLocal.Templates[name] == 'function') {
				ret = DsqLocal.Templates[name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(ret === undefined) {
				ret = this['$$_' + name].apply(this, arguments);
			}

			if(this.filters[name]) {
				var args = [ret];

				args.push.apply(args, arguments);
				for(var i = 0; i < this.filters[name].length; i++) {
					ret = this.filters[name][i].apply(this, args);
				}
			}

			return ret;
		};
	};

	this.registerFilter = function(name, func) {
		this.filters[name] = this.filters[name] || [];
		this.filters[name].push(func);
	};

	/**
	 * Dsq.Templates.Filters
	 */
	this.Filters = new function() {
		this.commentContainer = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			var classes = [];
			if(Dsq.jsonData.request.page > 1) {
				classes.push('dsq-append');
			}

			//
			// Extra classes used for custom themes
			//

			if(_meta.depth) {
				classes.push('dsq-comment-child', 'dsq-depth-' + _meta.depth, 'dsq-parent-is-' + _meta.parent_post_id);
			}


			//

			if(_meta.author_is_creator) {
				// TODO: We need to deprecate the "special" class since it is not properly prefixed.
				classes.push('special', 'dsq-special');
			}
			if(_meta.author_is_moderator) {
				classes.push('dsq-moderator');
			}
			classes.push(['dsq-odd', 'dsq-even'][Dsq.Templates.postLoopCounter % 2]);

			s = s.substring(0, s.lastIndexOf('>'));
			return s + ' class="dsq-comment ' + classes.join(' ') + '" style="margin-left:' + _meta.depth*30 + 'px">';
		};

		this.commentContent = function(post_id, s) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
			if (_meta.killed) {
				return '<em>Comment removed.</em>';
			} else if (!_meta.approved) {
				return '<em>This comment was flagged for review.</em>';
			}

			s = s.replace(Dsq.MEDIA_POST_RE, Dsq.MediaPostHandler);
			return s;
		};
	};

	//
	// Thread
	//
	// TODO: These need to be stripped of all Django template tags.

	this.authPost = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.context.show_reply) {
			return '';
		}
		var result = [];
		result = result.concat([
				'<div id="dsq-auth"',
						Dsq.jsonData.integration.reply_position ? 'class="dsq-auth-bottom"' : '',
						'>',
					'<div class="dsq-by">',
						'<a href="http://disqus.com" target="_blank">',
							(Dsq.jsonData.integration.disqus_logo ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/by-disqus.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">') :
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img src="%(media_url)s/images/embed/dsq-button-120x19.png" alt="discussion by DISQUS">')
							),
						'</a>',
					'</div>',
					'<div class="dsq-auth-header">',
						'<h3 id="dsq-add-new-comment" class="dsq-h3-addcomment">',
								Dsq.Strings.ADD_NEW_COMMENT,
						'</h3>',
						'<div id="dsq-login">',
						(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated && Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post
								? '<p class="dsq-login-message" id="dsq-login-message">You are commenting as a <a class="dsq-help" title="Click for more information" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Guest</a>. You may select one to log into:</p>'
								: '')
		]);
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			result = result.concat([
							Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
								'<a id="dsq-login-toggle" href="%(disqus_url)s%(login_url)s?next=article:%(thread_id)s" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false"><img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsq-profile-btn.png" title="%(log_into)s" alt="%(log_into)s"/></a>',
								{login_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGIN, thread_id: Dsq.jsonData.thread.id, log_into: Dsq.Strings.LOG_INTO_DISQUS}
								),
							'&nbsp; ',
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ?
								'<div id="dsq-fbc-login" onlogin="DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin()" size="medium" background="light" length="short" style="display:inline; margin-right:7px"></div>' :
								''
							),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-twitter-login" class="dsq-twitter-login" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect();" style="display:inline; cursor: pointer"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/twitter-signin-short.png" style="margin-right:7px" /></div>', {}) : ''),
							(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ?
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate(
									'<div id="dsq-openid-login" class="dsq-openid-login" onclick="Dsq.OpenID.requestURL();" style="display:inline; cursor:pointer;"><img src="%(media_url)s/images/openid-login-button.png"/></div>', {}
								) : '')
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
						'</div>', // dsq-login
					'</div>', // dsq-auth-header
					'<div id="dsq-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated" ',
						Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated ? 'style="display:block"' : '',
						'>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-pic">',
								Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">' +
																			'<img class="dsq-post-avatar" src="%(avatar_url)s" alt="" /></a>',
																			{avatar_url: Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_AVATAR,
																			url: (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
																					 ? Dsq.jsonData.request.url
																					 : Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url + Dsq.Urls.REQUEST_USER_PROFILE) }),
						'</div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>', {url:Dsq.jsonData.request.url})
										  )
										: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(
												Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(profile_url)s" title="%(request_display_username)s">%(request_display_username)s</a>')
											)
									),
								'</li>',
								'<li class="logout">',
									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="%(media_url)s/images/dsqicon12.png" alt="%(logged_in_as)s"/>&nbsp',
											{logged_in_as: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGGED_IN_AS(Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username)})
										: ''),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote
										? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="%(logout_from_disqus)s">',
											{logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN, logout_from_disqus: Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('DISQUS')})
										: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'twitter')
												? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using Twitter (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
												 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
												: ((Dsq.jsonData.request.remote_domain == 'openid')
													 ? Dsq.Utils.interpolate('using OpenID (<a href="%(disqus_url)s%(logout_url)s?ctkn=%(csrf_token)s" title="Logout">Logout</a>)',
													 {logout_url: Dsq.Urls.LOGOUT, csrf_token: Dsq.CSRF_TOKEN})
													 : ''
													)
											)
									),

									(!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_remote ? Dsq.FmtStrings.LOGOUT_FROM('<span class="logo-disqus">DISQUS</span>') : ''),
									'</a>',
								'</li>',
							'</ul>',
						'</div>',
					'</div>'
		]);
		if (Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect) {
			result = result.concat([
					'<div id="dsq-fbc-authenticated" class="dsq-authenticated">',
						'<div id="dsq-fbc-profilepic" class="dsq-authenticated-pic" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.ProfilePic" size="square" facebook-logo="true"></div>',
						'<div class="dsq-authenticated-info">',
							'<ul>',
								'<li>',
									'Logged in as <span id="dsq-fbc-name" uid="loggedinuser" type="FB.XFBML.Name" linked="true" useyou="false"></span>',
								'</li>',
								'<li class="logout">using Facebook Connect <a href="#" onclick="javascript:DisqusFbcParentController.logout();return false;">(Logout)</a></li>',
							'</ul>',
						'</div>',
					'</div>'
			]);
		}
		result = result.concat([
				'</div>', // dsq-auth
				'<div id="dsq-toolbar-items">',
				'</div>'
		]);
		result = result.concat([
					//
					//
					//
				((!Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_post && !Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) ?
					// Needs to be translated:
					('<p id="dsq-no-anon-msg">Required: Please log into <span class="logo-disqus">Disqus</span> ' +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_fb_connect ? 'or connect with Facebook ' : '') +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_twitter_signin ? 'or sign in with Twitter ' : '') +
					(Dsq.jsonData.context.use_openid ? 'or sign in using OpenID ' : '') +
					Dsq.Utils.interpolate('to comment on <strong>%(forum_name)s</strong>.</p>')) :
					''
				),
				'<div id="dsq-post-add"></div>',
				'<div style="margin:10px 0">',
				((Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media) ?
						'<a href="#" id="dsq-media-link" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, false, \'media\'); return false">' + Dsq.Strings.USE_MEDIA + ' <small>&#9660;</small></a>' :
						''),
				'</div>'
		]);
		return result.join('');
	};


	this.header = function() {

		var html = '\<h3 id="dsq-comments-count" class="dsq-h3-commentcount">\
	 <span id="dsq-num-posts">169</span> Comments\
	 &nbsp;\
	 <span class="dsq-item-feed">\
	 <a href="http://jackandjillpolitics.disqus.com/will_rick_warren_get_a_pass_while_jeremiah_wright_is_flung_under_the_bus/latest.rss"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/bullet-feed.png"></a>\
	 </span>\
	 </h3>\
	 <div id="dsq-options" style="margin:15px 0">\
	 <span class="dsq-item-sort">\
	 Sort by\
	 <select id="dsq-sort-select" onchange="Dsq.Thread.sortBy(this.value);">\
	 <option value="hot" selected="selected">Popular now</option>\
	 <option value="best" >Best Rating</option>\
	 <option value="newest" >Newest first</option>\
	 <option value="oldest" >Oldest first</option>\
	 </select>\
	 &nbsp;\
	 </span>\
	 <span class="dsq-item-cp"><a href="http://jackandjillpolitics.disqus.com/will_rick_warren_get_a_pass_while_jeremiah_wright_is_flung_under_the_bus/">Community Page</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>\
	 <span class="dsq-item-subscribe">\
	 <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/email.png" style="width:12px;height:12px;vertical-align:middle">\
	 <span id="dsq-subscribe">\
	 <a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a>\
	 </span>\
	 </span>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-alerts">\
	 <p><a href="http://disqus.com/profile/login/?next=article:8786119" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false">You must log into your Disqus Profile in order to post comments.</a></p>\
	 </div>\
		';

		

		
		if (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) { 
			html = ' \
			<div class="dsq-alert-message dsq-upgrade-message"> \
				<strong>Disqus upgrade available.</strong> Hi ' + Dsq.jsonData.request.display_username + ', this message is being displayed to you because you are a moderator of this site. <a href="#" onclick="Dsq.$(\'dsq-upgrade-message\').style.display=\'block\';this.style.display=\'none\';return false">Click here for details.</a> \
				<div style="display:none; margin-top:10px;" id="dsq-upgrade-message"> \
					A new theme is available with added features. <a href="http://disqus.com/comments/settings/' + Dsq.jsonData.forum.url + '/?p=customize">To change your theme, click here</a> and choose the theme Narcissus. \
					If you do not upgrade, you are missing out on features such as: real-time commenting, new sign-in integrations, and an upgrade interface. \
					<strong>This message will automatically go away in one week.</strong> \
				</div> \
			</div> \
			' + html; 
		}
		return html;
	};

	this.footer = function() {
		var html = Dsq.Templates.pagination();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.authPost();
		

		html += Dsq.Templates.reactions();

		
			html += Dsq.Templates.trackbacks();
		

		return html;
	};

	this.pagination = function() {
		var html = '';
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) { Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = ''; }
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.thread.paginate) { return ''; }

		//
		// TODO: num_paginator still uses the template tag for pagination, 
		// 		while append_paginator does it all in JavaScript.
		//		This should all be in JavaScript.
		//

		if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages > 1 && Dsq.jsonData.request.page < Dsq.jsonData.thread.num_pages) {
			html = ' \<a class="dsq-paginate-append-text" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this); return false">Show more comments...</a>\
	 <button class="dsq-button-small dsq-paginate-append-button" onclick="Dsq.Thread.paginate(Dsq.jsonData.request.page + 1, this);">Load more comments</button>\
			';
		}
		
		if (Dsq.$('dsq-pagination')) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML = html;
			return '';
		} else {
			return '<div id="dsq-pagination" class="dsq-pagination">' + html + '</div>';
		}
	};

	this.trackbacks = function() {
		var html = '';

		if(typeof DsqLocal != 'undefined' && DsqLocal.trackback_url && DsqLocal.trackbacks) {
			var trackbacks = DsqLocal.trackbacks;
			var trackback_url = DsqLocal.trackback_url;
		} else {
			var trackbacks = [
			
			
			];
			var trackback_url = 'http://jackandjillpolitics.disqus.com/will_rick_warren_get_a_pass_while_jeremiah_wright_is_flung_under_the_bus/trackback/';
		}

		html += '<div class="dsq-item-trackback">Trackback URL&nbsp;&nbsp;<input class="dsq-trackback-url" onclick="this.select()" readonly="true" value="' + trackback_url + '"></div>';

		if(trackbacks.length) {
			html += '<ul id="dsq-references">'
			for(var i = 0; i < trackbacks.length; i++) {
				var trackback = trackbacks[i];
				html += '<li><cite><a href="' + trackback.author_url + '" rel="nofollow">' + trackback.author_name + '</a></cite> \
						<p class="dsq-meta">' + trackback.date + '</p> \
						<p class="dsq-content">' + trackback.excerpt + '</p></li>';
			}
			html += '</ul>';
			html = '<h3 class="dsq-h3-trackbacks">Trackbacks</h3>' + html;
		}

		return html;
	}

	this.showRetweets = function(id, limit, element_id /* Optional */) {
		var source, html = '';

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			if (reaction.id === id) {
				source = reaction.retweets;
			}
		}

		if (source) {
			if (limit === 0) {
				limit = source.length;
			}

			for (var j = 0; j < limit; j++) {
				var rt = source[j];
				html += '<a href="' + rt.url + '">' + rt.author_name + '</a>'	+ ((j === (limit - 1)) ? '.' : ', ');
			}
		}

		if (element_id === undefined) {
			return html;
		}

		var element = document.getElementById(element_id);
		element.innerHTML = html;
		return element;
	};

	this.showMoreReactions = function(reactions, has_more, start, limit) {
		var link = document.getElementById('dsq-show-more-reactions');
		var container = link.parentNode;
		container.removeChild(link);

		for (var i = 0, reaction; reaction = reactions[i]; i++) {
			var el = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (el) {
				container.innerHTML += el;
			}
		}

		if (has_more) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = start;
			var l = limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			container.innerHTML += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}
	};

	this.generateReactionHTML = function(reaction) {
		if (reaction.body === null || reaction.body == '') {
			return;
		}

		if (reaction.author_name === '') {
			reaction.author_name = '&nbsp;';
		}

		if (reaction.url === '') {
			reaction.url = reaction.get_service_url;
		}

		/* Reaction HTML begins */
		var item = '<li class="dsq-reaction" id="dsq-reaction-' + reaction.id + '">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-header">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-header-avatar">';

		if (reaction.author_url && reaction.author_url !== '') {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="' + reaction.author_url +'">';
		} else {
			item += '<a target="_blank" href="#" onclick="return false;">';
		}

		if (reaction.avatar_url && reaction.avatar_url !== '') {
			item += '<img src="' + reaction.avatar_url + '"/>';
		} else {
			item += '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/noavatar32.png"/>';
		}

		var service_icon = (reaction.get_service_name == 'trackback' || reaction.get_service_name == 'pingback' ? 'rss' : reaction.get_service_name.replace(' ', ''));
		item += '<img class="dsq-service-icon" src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/reactions/services/' + service_icon + '.png"/>'
			+ '</a></div>'
			+ '<cite><span>' + reaction.author_name + '</span></cite>'
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"><a class="dsq-header-time">' + reaction.date_created + '</a></span>'
			+ '</div><div class="dsq-reaction-body">'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-message">' + reaction.body + '</div>'
			+ '<div class="dsq-reaction-footer">From <a class="dsq-service-name" target="_blank" href="' + reaction.url + '">' + reaction.get_service_name + '</a> '
			+ 'via ' + (reaction.source == 'backtype' ? '<a href="http://backtype.com/">BackType</a>' : '<a href="' + reaction.source_url + '">UberVU</a>')
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator ? '&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;<a class="dsq-hide-reaction" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Reaction.hide(' + reaction.id + '); return false;">Hide</a>' : '') + '</div></div>';

		if(reaction.retweets) {
			var num_retweets = reaction.retweets.length;
			if (num_retweets > 0) {
				item += '<div class="dsq-reaction-retweets">';
				if (num_retweets == 1) {
					item += 'One more retweet from <a href="' + reaction.retweets[0].url + '">'  + reaction.retweets[0].author_name + '</a>';
				} else {
					item += (num_retweets + ' more retweets from ');

					item += '<span id="dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '">';
					var n_tweets = (num_retweets > 15) ? 15 : num_retweets;
					item += Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(reaction.id, n_tweets);

					if (n_tweets != num_retweets) {
						item += '</span> <a onclick="Dsq.Templates.showRetweets(' + reaction.id + ', 0, \'dsq-reaction-retweets-' + reaction.id + '\');'
							+ 'this.parentNode.removeChild(this); return false;" href="#">Show all</a>';
					}
				}
				item += '</div>';
			}
		}

		item += '</li>'; /* Reaction HTML ends */
		return item;
	};

	this.reactions = function() {
		var html, reaction;

		if (Dsq.jsonData.reactions === undefined || Dsq.jsonData.reactions.length === 0) {
			return '';
		}

		html = '';
		for (var i = 0; reaction = Dsq.jsonData.reactions[i]; i++) {
			var item = Dsq.Templates.generateReactionHTML(reaction);
			if (item) {
				html += item;
			}
		}

		if (Dsq.jsonData.has_more_reactions) {
			var d = Dsq.jsonData.settings.disqus_url;
			var f = Dsq.jsonData.forum.url;
			var t = Dsq.jsonData.thread.id;
			var s = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_start;
			var l = Dsq.jsonData.reactions_limit;

			var handler = 'Dsq.Utils.execScript(\'' + d + '/forums/' + f + '/more_reactions.js?t=' + t + '&s=' + s + '&l=' + l + '\', true); return false;';
			html += '<li id="dsq-show-more-reactions"><a href="#" onclick="' + handler + '">Show more reactions</a></li>';
		}

		return '<h3 class="dsq-h3-reactions">Reactions</h3><ul id="dsq-reactions" class="dsq-reactions">' + html + '</ul>';
	};
	
	this.missingPermissions = function() {
		return '	<p><a href="http://disqus.com/profile/login/?next=article:8786119" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false">You must log into your Disqus Profile in order to post comments.</a></p> \n';
	};

	//
	// Post
	//

	this.prependPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="comment-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.appendPost = function(post_id) {
		var html = '<div id="dsq-comment-reply-' + post_id + '"></div>';
		return html;
	};

	this.postPrependHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-header-avatar" id="dsq-header-avatar-' + post_id + '" onmouseover="Dsq.Post.dropProfile(' + post_id + ')"> \
				<a id="dsq-avatar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-avatar" href="' + userData.url + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">'
			+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.show_avatar
				? '<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key].avatar + '" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '</a>'
			+ '</div> \
		';
	};

	this.postAppendHeader = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];

		return ''
			+ (_meta.author_is_moderator
				? '<img class="dsq-mod-star" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/bullet-star.png" title="Moderator" alt="" />'
				: '')
			+ '<span class="dsq-header-meta"> \
				<a id="dsq-time-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-header-time" href="#comment-' + post_id + '" title="Permalink">' + _meta.date + '</a> \
			</span>';
	};

	this.preBody = function(post_id) {
		return '';
	}

	this.postBody = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Deprecate flagging conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		return ''
			+ (_meta.edited
				? '<p class="dsq-editedtxt">(Edited by a moderator)</p>'
				: '')
			;
	};

	this.postFooter = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: Use media should be conditional
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		if(_meta.killed) { return ''; }

		return ' \
			<div class="dsq-comment-footer" id="dsq-comment-footer-' + post_id + '"> \
				<div id="dsq-points-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-likedtxt">'
				+ (_meta.points
					? _meta.points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(_meta.points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.'
					: '')
				+ '</div>'
				+ '<ul class="dsq-comment-options dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.votable
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first dsq-rate" id="dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id + '">'
					+ (!_meta.up_voted
						? '<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.rate(this, ' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Like</a>'
						: 'You liked this.') + '</li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-report' + (!_meta.votable ? ' dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-post-report-' + post_id + '"><a href="#" class="dsq-post-report" onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + post_id + ', false); return false;">Report</a></li> \
				</ul> \
				<ul class="dsq-list-style">'
				+ (_meta.can_reply
					? '<li class="dsq-list-first"><a href="#" id="dsq-reply-link-' + post_id +'" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleReply(this, ' + post_id +'); return false;">Reply</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ (_meta.can_reply && !_meta.has_replies && _meta.from_request_user
					? '<li id="dsq-edit-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-edit-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit</a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="' + (!_meta.can_reply ? 'dsq-list-first' : '') + '" id="dsq-more-el-' + post_id + '"><a id="dsq-more-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'more\'); return false">More <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
				+ (Dsq.jsonData.forum.use_media
					? '<li id="dsq-media-el-' + post_id +'" style="display:none"><a id="dsq-media-link-' + post_id + '" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.showMenu(this, ' + post_id + ', \'media\'); return false">Use Media <small>&#9660;</small></a></li>'
					: '')
				+ '</ul>'
				+ '<div id="dsq-reply-bar-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar" style="display:none"> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-items-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-items"> \
						</div> \
						<div id="dsq-reply-bar-auth-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-reply-bar-auth"> \
							 \
								 \
									<a href="#" class="dsq-help dsq-reply-req-opt" title="You must log into an account in order to comment on Jack and Jill Politics" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges(); return false">Required:</a> \
								 \
								<img class="dsq-login-icon" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/dsq-favicon-16x16.png" alt="" /> \
								<a id="dsq-reply-login-' + post_id + '" href="http://disqus.com/profile/login/?next=article:8786119" onclick="Dsq.Popup.login(); return false">Login</a> \
								 \
									&nbsp;or&nbsp; \
									<img class="fb_login_image" src="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/images/fbconnect/login-buttons/connect_light_small_short.gif" alt="Facebook Connect"/> \
									<a href="#" onclick="FB.Connect.requireSession(DisqusFbcParentController.onLogin); return false;">Connect</a> \
								 \
								&nbsp;or&nbsp; \
									<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/twitter-signin-icon.png" alt="" /> \
									<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Twitter.startTwitterConnect(); return false">Sign-in</a> \
								 \
								 \
							 \
						</div> \
					</div> \
					<div id="dsq-reply-' + post_id + '"></div> \
			</div> \
		';
	};

	//
	// Iframes
	//

	this._makeAttributes = function(attributes) {
		// Makes a tag attributes string out of an object.
		// Caller is responsible for making sure nothing needs to be escaped.
		var result = [];
		for (key in attributes) {
			result.push(' ' + key + '="' + attributes[key] + '"');
		}
		result = result.join('');
		return result;
	};

	this._frameGeneric = function(base_url, params, attributes) {
		if(typeof(disqus_callback_params) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_callback_params = '';
		}

		var default_params = {
			// TODO: These should be moved to Dsq.jsonData.
			'f'				: 'jackandjillpolitics',
			't'				: 'will_rick_warren_get_a_pass_while_jeremiah_wright_is_flung_under_the_bus',
			// Do we need encodeURIComponent here?
			'ifrs'			: encodeURIComponent(disqus_iframe_css),
			'to_redirect'	: encodeURIComponent(window.location),
			'cbp'			: disqus_callback_params,
			'ff'			: Dsq.Thread.ff,
			'fc'			: Dsq.Thread.fc,
			'ac'			: Dsq.Thread.ac,
			'default_text'	: disqus_default_text
		};

		base_url += '?' + (new Date()).getTime();
		// Add params to default_params.
		if(params) {
			for(var key in params) {
				if(params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					default_params[key] = encodeURIComponent(params[key]);
				}
			}
		}
		// Build querystring.
		for(var key in default_params) {
			if(default_params[key] && default_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				base_url += '&' + key + '=' + default_params[key];
			}
		}

		return [
			'<iframe marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" hspace="0" vspace="0" frameborder="0"',
			(' allowtransparency="true" src="' + base_url + '"'),
			this._makeAttributes(attributes),
			'</iframe>'].join('');
	};

	this.frameLogin = function(opt_attributes) {
		var params = {};
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/login.html';
		var attributes = opt_attributes || {};
		attributes['class'] = 'dsq-post-login';

		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameReply = function(post_id, extra_params, attributes) {
		// Returns the HTML for a reply iframe. Called by Dsq.Iframes.setReplyIframeToContainer
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = Dsq.Urls.REPLY;
		var params = {
			'def_email'		: disqus_def_email,
			'def_name'		: disqus_def_name
		};
		if(extra_params) {
			for(var key in extra_params) {
				if(extra_params.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
					params[key] = extra_params[key];
				}
			}
		}
		if(_meta) {
			params['parent_post'] = post_id;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined') {
			params['per_page'] = disqus_per_page;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_frame_theme != 'undefined') {
			params['theme'] = disqus_frame_theme;
		}
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated) {
			attributes['class'] += '-authenticated';
		}
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, attributes);
	};

	this.frameEdit = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = (typeof post_id != 'undefined') ? Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] : false;
		var base_url = 'http://disqus.com/embed/edit.html';
		var params = {
			'p' : post_id
		};
		return this._frameGeneric(base_url, params, {'class': 'dsq-post-edit', 'name': 'dsq-edit_' + post_id + '-frame'});
	};

	//
	// Menus
	//

	this.menuMore = function(post_id) {
		// TODO: "Remove post" button should hide menu.
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#comment-' + post_id + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.permalink(' + post_id + ')">Link</a></li> \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Profile</a></li>'
	+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator || Dsq.jsonData.request.is_global_moderator
		? '	<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>' + (_meta.email ? '<li class="dsq-admin-email">' + _meta.email + '</li>' : '')
		+ '	<li class="dsq-admin-ip">' + _meta.ip + '</li> \
			<li class="dsq-menu-sep"></li>'
		+ (Dsq.jsonData.request.moderator_can_edit
			? ' <li class="dsq-admin-edit"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.edit(this, ' + post_id + '); return false;">Edit Comment</a></li>'
			: '')
		+ ' <li class="dsq-remove"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.removePost(' + post_id + ', 1); return false;">Remove Comment</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-report-spam"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.reportSpam(' + post_id + '); return false;">Mark Spam</a></li> \
			<li class="dsq-block-user"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.blacklist(' + post_id + '); return false">Block User</a></li>'
		: '');
	};

	this.menuMedia = function(post_id) {
		return ' \
			<li><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(this, ' + post_id + ', \'seesmic\'); return false;">Record video</a></li> \
		';
	};

	this.dropProfile = function(post_id) {
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id];
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][_meta.user_key];

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(null, post_id);
			var html = '';
			var hiddenThreshold = 3; // Define # of services to show before stuffing them in hidden div

			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == hiddenThreshold
					? '<li id="dsq-drop-hidden-' + post_id +'" class="dsq-drop-hidden"><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li class="dsq-drop-services"> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank"> \
						<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>';
			}

			if(i >= hiddenThreshold) {
				html += '</ul></li> \
				<li id="dsq-drop-more-' + post_id + '" class="dsq-drop-more"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Post.dropProfileMore(this, '+ post_id + '); return false"><small>&#9660;</small></a></li> \
				';
			}
			return html;
		};


		var menu = '<li class="dsq-drop-showlnk"><a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup.popProfile(' + post_id + '); return false;">Expand &#8663;</a></li>';
		var pointsMessage = '';
		if (userData['registered']) {
			pointsMessage = 'with ' + userData['points'] + ' points (more points are better).';
		}

		if (userData['is_remote']) {
			var domain = userData['remote_domain_name'];
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' is a ' + domain + ' user ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
			menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-' + domain.toLowerCase() + '">' + domain + '</span></li>';
		} else if (userData['registered']) {
			if (userData['verified']) {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a verified commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-verified">Verified</span></li>';
			} else {
				menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has a registered, but unverified, commenter profile ' + pointsMessage + '" onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()">';
				menu += '<span class="dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span></li>';
			}
		} else {
			menu += '<li class="dsq-drop-badge" title="' + userData['display_name'] + ' has not claimed this commenter profile." onclick="Dsq.Popup.helpBadges()"><span class="dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span></li>';
		}

		menu += _includeServices();
		return menu;
	};

	//
	// Popups
	//

	this._popupGeneric = function(content) {
		return ' \
		<div class="dsq-popup-content"> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-top"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-body" class="clearfix"> \
				<div class="dsq-popup-body-padding"> \
					<div class="dsq-popup-header"> \
						<a class="dsq-close-link" href="#" onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true); return false"><img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/modal-close.png" alt="" /></a>'
						+ content['header']
					+ '</div>'
					+ content['body']
					+ '<div class="powered-by"><a href="http://disqus.com/comments/">Powered by <img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/embed/disqus-logo.png" alt="Disqus Comments" style="margin-bottom:-5px" /></a></div> \
				</div> <!-- padding --> \
			</div> <!-- body --> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-bottom"></div> \
		</div> \
		';
	};

	this.popupProfile = function(user_key) {
		var userServices = Dsq.Post.getUserServices(user_key, null);
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		var _includeServices = function() {
			var html = '';
			for(var i = 0; i < userServices.length; i++) {
				html +=
				(i == 0
					? '<h4>Connections</h4><ul>'
					: '')
				+ '<li> \
					<img src="' + Dsq.jsonData.media_url + '/images/embed/services/' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '.png" alt="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" title="' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" /> \
					<a class="dsq-service-' + userServices[i].name.toLowerCase() + '" href="' + userServices[i].url + '" target="_blank">'
					+ userServices[i].name
					+ '</a> \
				</li>'
				+ (i+1 == userServices.length ? '</ul>' : '');
			}
			return html;
		};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<table> \
				<tr> \
					<td> \
						<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><img class="dsq-popup-profile-avatar" src="' + userData['avatar'] + '" alt="" /></a> \
					</td> \
					<td> \
						<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user"> \
							<h3>' + userData['display_name'] + '</h3> \
							<div class="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats" id="dsq-popup-profile-user-stats-' + user_key + '">Loading...</div> \
						</div> \
					</td> \
				</tr> \
			</table> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-state"> \
				This is a&nbsp;<span class="'
					+ (userData['registered']
						? (userData['verified']
							? ' dsq-badge-verified'
							: (userData['is_remote']
								? ' dsq-badge-' + userData['remote_domain_name'].toLowerCase()
								: ' dsq-badge-registered')
							)
							: ' dsq-badge-guest') + '">'
			+ (userData['registered']
				? (userData['verified']
					? 'Verified'
					: (userData['is_remote']
						 ? userData['remote_domain_name']
						 : 'Registered')
					)
				: 'Guest')
			+ '</span>&nbsp;commenter profile.'
			+ '&nbsp;<a class="dsq-profile-userurl" href="' + userData.url + '"><strong>View more comments </strong></a>'
			+ (!userData['points']
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice">If this is you, <a href="http://disqus.com/profile" target="_blank">claim it now</a> to manage your comments.</p>'
				: '')
			+ ((userData['registered'] && !userData['verified'] && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username && (Dsq.jsonData.request.username == userData['username'])) && !userData['is_remote'])
				? '<p class="dsq-popup-notice"><strong>Alert</strong>: You have not verified this account. <a href="http://disqus.com/verify">Verify it now.</a></p>'
				: '')
			+ '</div> \
			<div id="dsq-profile-status-' + user_key + '" class="dsq-popup-profile-status" style="display:none"></div> \
			<div class="dsq-popup-profile-snapshot"> \
				<table> \
					<tr> \
						<td> \
							<div id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Most active sites</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-active-sites-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
						<td>'
							+ _includeServices()
							+ '<div id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-wrapper-' + user_key + '"> \
								<h4>Moderator of</h4> \
								<ul id="dsq-popup-profile-moderated-' + user_key + '"> \
									<li>Loading...</li> \
								</ul> \
							</div> \
						</td> \
					</tr> \
				</table> \
			</div> \
			';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupReblog = function() {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<cite><span>Reblog this comment</span></cite> \
		';

		bodyHtml = ' \
			<div id="dsq-reblog-form" class="dsq-reblog-form"> \
			</div> \
		';

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.popupModal = function(title, message) {
		var headerHtml = '';
		var bodyHtml = '';
		var content = {};

		headerHtml = ' \
			<h3>' + title + '</h3> \
		';

		bodyHtml = message;

		content = {
			'header': headerHtml,
			'body': bodyHtml
		};

		return this._popupGeneric(content);
	};

	this.alertContent = function(name, post_id) {
		var alert = {
			'post_not_approved': {
				'title': 'Comment awaiting approval by a moderator',
				'message': 'Thanks for posting. Your comment must be approved by a moderator before appearing here.'
			},
			'post_has_profile': {
				'title': 'Use your existing commenter profile',
				'message': 'You have just posted your commment as a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-guest">Guest</span>, but you may already have a <span class="dsq-badge dsq-badge-registered">Registered</span> commenter profile.<br /><br /><a href="http://disqus.com/claim">Log in and claim this comment!</a>'
			}
		};
		return alert[name] || false;
	};

	//
	// Actions
	//

	this.voted = function(post_id, points, vote) {
		// Update number of points
		Dsq.$('dsq-points-' + post_id).innerHTML = points + Dsq.Utils.pluralize(points, ' person', ' people') + ' liked this comment.';

		// Update link text
		if(vote) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + post_id).innerHTML = 'You liked this.';
		}
	};

	this.subscribed = function(status) {
		var title, message;

		if(status) {
			title = 'Subscribed!';
			message = 'You have subscribed to this comment thread. New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox, where you may read and respond by email.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(0); return false">Unsubscribe</a> \
			';
		} else {
			title = 'Unsubscribed';
			message = 'You have unsubscribed to this comment thread. New comments will no longer be sent to your email inbox.';
			Dsq.$('dsq-subscribe').innerHTML = ' \
				<a href="#" onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1); return false">Subscribe by email</a> \
			';
		}

		Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);

	};
	
	this.highlighted = function() {
		Dsq.Popup.popModal('This comment has been highlighted.', 'Highlighted comment');
	};

	//
	// Media
	//

	this.mediaSeesmic = function(id, thumb) {
		return ' \
			<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_preview" class="dsq-seesmic-preview"><a href="http://www.seesmic.com/video/' + id + '" target="_blank" class="see_link">&nbsp;</a> \
				<div style="display:block;width:160px; height:120px; border:none; background-image:url(http://t.seesmic.com/thumbnail/' + thumb + ')"> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_hide" class="seePlayOverlay" style="display:none;"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',false)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/stopOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
					<div id="dsq-seesmic-' + id + '_show" class="seePlayOverlay"><img onclick="see_play_video(\'' + id + '\',true)" src="http://media.disqus.com/images/seesmic/playOverlay.png" width="50" height="50" style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand; border:none; padding-top: 30px; padding-left: 50px" alt="" /></div> \
				</div> \
			</div> \
			<div id="' + id + '_content" style="display:block; width:100%; padding-top:5px"></div> \
		';
	};

	//
	// Callbacks
	//

	this.postComment_onSuccess = function(parent_post_id) {
		// Increment post count
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');
		
		if (num_posts) { 
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) { 
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML) + 1;
		}
	};
};
// Dsq.Templates


/**
 * Dsq.Post
 */
Dsq.Post = new function() {
	this.openedMenu = {};
	this.menuEventListener = null;
	this.stateReplyToggled = {};
	this.stateEditToggled = {};
	this.stateRecordLink = {};

	/**
	 * Inserts a new post into the document.
	 *
	 * @param after_id {Number}	Insert a post before specified id.  If after_id
	 *							evaluates to false, then post in the front.  If
	 *							after_id is -1, post at the end.
	 */
	this.insert = function(after_id, id, message, author) {
		// Skeleton template from thread_posts.html.
		var skeleton = ' \
			<li id="dsq-comment-%(id)s"> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-header-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-header"> \
					<cite id="dsq-cite-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-cite"> \
						<a id="dsq-author-user-%(id)s" href="%(author_url)s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">%(author_name)s</a> \
					</cite> \
				</div> \
				<div id="dsq-comment-body-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-body"> \
					<div id="dsq-comment-message-%(id)s" class="dsq-comment-message">%(message)s</div> \
				</div> \
			</li> \
		';
		var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
		var _user_meta = Dsq.jsonData.users[_meta.user_key];
		var markup = Dsq.Utils.interpolate(skeleton, {
			id: id,
			message: message,
			author_url: _user_meta.blog,
			author_name: _user_meta.display_name
		});
		var div = document.createElement('div');
		markup = markup.replace(Dsq.COMMENTS_RE, Dsq.CommentsHandler);
		div.innerHTML = markup;

		if (after_id === -1) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').appendChild(div);
		} else if (!after_id) {
			Dsq.$('dsq-comments').insertBefore(div, Dsq.$('dsq-comments').firstChild);
		} else if (Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + after_id)) {
			// Get next node after "after_id", so we can insert before it.
			// If "after_id" is the last comment, the target node is the
			// last node.
			
			// var append_post_id = Dsq.Templates.appendPost(after_id).replace('<div id="','').replace('"></div>', '');
			var append_post_id = 'dsq-append-post-' + after_id;
			var node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			while (node = node.nextSibling) {
				if (!node || node.nodeType == 1) { // 1 == Node.ELEMENT_NODE
					break;
				}
			}
			if (!node) {
				node = Dsq.$(append_post_id);
			}
			node.parentNode.insertBefore(div, node);
		}
	};

	this.incrementPostCount = function() {
		
		var num_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-num-posts');
		var total_posts = Dsq.$('dsq-total-posts');

		if (num_posts) {
			num_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(num_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
		if (total_posts) {
			total_posts.innerHTML = parseInt(total_posts.innerHTML, 10) + 1;
		}
	}
	
	this.outlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className += ' dsq-comment-outline';
		setTimeout("(function () { Dsq.Post.clearOutlineComment(" + post_id + ") })()", 3000);
	};
	
	this.clearOutlineComment = function(post_id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-' + post_id).className.replace('dsq-comment-outline', '');
	};

	this.showMenu = function(el, id, name) {
		var anchorPos = Dsq.Utils.findPos(el);
		var menu = document.createElement('ul');

		if(this.openedMenu) {
			if(this.openedMenu.linkClicked) {
				this.openedMenu.linkClicked = false;
				return;
			}
		}

		switch(name) {
			case 'more':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMore(id);
				break;
			case 'media':
				menu.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.menuMedia(id);
				break;
			default:
				break;
		}

		// Add menu to document body
		menu.id = 'dsq-menu-' + id;
		menu.className = 'dsq-menu';
		Dsq.$b.appendChild(menu);

		// Position and show
		anchorPos[1] += 15;
		menu.style.left = anchorPos[0] + 'px';
		menu.style.top = anchorPos[1] + 'px';
		menu.style.display = 'block';

		// Set global reference
		this.openedMenu = {
			'el' : menu,
			'id' : id,
			'name' : name,
			'linkClicked' : false
		};

		// Set listener
		this.menuEventListener = Dsq.Utils.addEventListener(document, 'mouseup', this._hideMenu);
	};

	this._hideMenu = function(e) {
		var el = e.target || e.srcElement;
		var openedMenu = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el;
		var id = Dsq.Post.openedMenu.id;

		if(!id) {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link';
		} else {
			var link = 'dsq-' + Dsq.Post.openedMenu.name + '-link-' + id;
		}

		if(!openedMenu) {
			return;
		}

		if(!Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, openedMenu.id)) {
			openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
			Dsq.Utils.removeEventListener(Dsq.Post.menuEventListener);
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(openedMenu);

		} else {
			// Hide the menu if a link was clicked inside the menu.  We can't
			// completely remove the menu until the onclick event on the link
			// fires, but the menuEventListener will prevent multiple menus
			// from polluting the DOM.
			if(el && typeof el.href != 'undefined') {
				openedMenu.style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Post.openedMenu.el = null;
			}
		}

		if(Dsq.Popup.isClicked(e, link)) {
 			Dsq.Post.openedMenu.linkClicked = true;
		}
	};


	this.getUserServices = function(user_key, id) {
		if(!user_key && id) {
			var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
			user_key = _meta.user_key;
		}
		var userData = Dsq.jsonData['users'][user_key];
		var userServices = [];

		// Keep a full list of supported services. This is the order they will display in the drop-profile.
		// Each service must have a corresponding case in _buildServiceUrl()
		var supportedServices = ['blog', 'twitter', 'facebook', 'tumblr'];

		function _buildServiceUrl(serviceName) {
			var data = userData[serviceName];
			var services = {
				blog:		function(d) { return d; },
				twitter:	function(d) { return d; },
				facebook:	function(d) { return d; },
				tumblr:		function(d) { return 'http://' + d + '.tumblr.com'; }
			};
			return services[serviceName](data);
		}

		for(var i = 0; i < supportedServices.length; i++) {
			if(userData[supportedServices[i]]) {
				var serviceUrl = _buildServiceUrl(supportedServices[i]);
				userServices.push({'name' : supportedServices[i], 'url' : serviceUrl});
			}
		}
		return userServices;
	}

	this.dropProfile = function(id) {
		var dp = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-profile-' + id);

		// IE6 needs JS to display/hide. All other browsers use CSS.
		if(dp) {
			if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) dp.style.display = (dp.style.display == 'inline') ? 'none' : 'inline';
			return false;
		} else {
			dp = document.createElement('ul');
		}

		dp.id = 'dsq-drop-profile-' + id;
		dp.className = 'dsq-drop-profile';

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie6) { dp.style.display = 'inline'; }

		var container = Dsq.$('dsq-header-avatar-' + id);
		dp.innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.dropProfile(id);
		container.appendChild(dp);
	};

	this.dropProfileMore = function(el, id) {
		var hiddenItems = Dsq.$('dsq-drop-hidden-' + id);

		hiddenItems.style.display = 'inline';
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
	};

	this._updateReplyLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "reply / cancel" links based on state.
		var displayDict = {};

		if(id) {
			if(this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				el.innerHTML = 'Cancel';
				displayDict['media'] = 'inline';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'none';
			} else {
				el.innerHTML = 'Reply';
				displayDict['media'] = 'none';
				displayDict['edit'] = 'inline';
			}
		}

		for(var key in displayDict) {
			if(displayDict.hasOwnProperty(key)) {
				var	linkEl = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-el-' + id),
					spacer = Dsq.$('dsq-' + key + '-spacer-' + id);

				if(linkEl) {
					linkEl.style.display = displayDict[key];
					if(spacer) spacer.style.display = displayDict[key];
				}
			}
		}
	};

	this._updateMediaLinks = function(el, id) {
		// Update "use media / cancel" links based on state.
		var appendId = (id) ? ('-' + id) : '';
		var link = Dsq.$('dsq-media-link' + appendId);

		if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			link.innerHTML = 'Cancel Media';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.toggleMediaReply(link, id); return false; };
		} else {
			link.innerHTML = 'Use Media <small>&#9660;</small>';
			link.onclick = function() { Dsq.Post.showMenu(link, id, 'media'); return false; };
		}
	};

	this.toggleReply = function(el, id) {
		// Create reply IFrame
		if (window.disqus_use_postmessage) {
			if (!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				// Create IFrame if it doesn't exist.
				if (!Dsq.frames['reply_' + id]) {
					var _meta = Dsq.jsonData.posts[id];
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id] = new Dsq.ReplyFrame(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-frame-' + id), id);
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].init();
					Dsq.frames['reply_' + id].setState(id, _meta.depth);
				}
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
			}
		} else {
			// DEPRECATED
			if(!this.stateReplyToggled[id]) {
				// Reply toolbar
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'block';
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id), id);
			} else {
				Dsq.$('dsq-reply-bar-' + id).style.display = 'none';
				Dsq.Iframes.hideAllInContainer(Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id));
				if(this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
					// HACK: Cancel media before canceling self.
					this.toggleMediaReply(Dsq.$('dsq-media-link-' + id), id);
				}
			}
		}

		this.stateReplyToggled[id] = !this.stateReplyToggled[id];
		this._updateReplyLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-reply-' + id); }

		Dsq.Events.fire(Dsq.Events.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED, {
			postId: id,
			opened: this.stateReplyToggled[id]
		});
	};

	this.toggleMediaReply = function(el, id, xtype) {
		id = id || 0;
		if(id) {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + id);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(!this.stateRecordLink[id]) {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id, {xtype:xtype}, 'dsq-post-video');
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainer(container, id);
		}
		this.stateRecordLink[id] = !this.stateRecordLink[id];
		this._updateMediaLinks(el, id);

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};

	this.edit = function(el, id) {
		Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id).innerHTML = Dsq.Templates.frameEdit(id);
		el.parentNode.style.display = 'none';
		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE('dsq-comment-message-' + id); }
	};

    this.rate = function(el, id, vote) {
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || Dsq.jsonData.forum.allow_anon_votes) {
			if(vote == 1) {
                Dsq.$('dsq-rate-cont-' + id).innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
            }

            Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/vote.js'
                + '?post_id='    + id
                + '&vote='        + vote);

		} else {
			Dsq.Popup.login(Dsq.Strings.TO_RATE_PLEASE_LOG_IN);
		}
    };

	this.report = function(id, confirmed) {
		if(confirmed) {
			Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/will_rick_warren_get_a_pass_while_jeremiah_wright_is_flung_under_the_bus/post_report/', {'post_id': id});
			Dsq.Popup.popModal('Thank you. This comment has been flagged for moderator attention.', 'Successfully flagged');
			Dsq.Utils.deleteNode(Dsq.$('dsq-post-report-' + id));
		} else {
			var title = Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT;
			var message = Dsq.Strings.ARE_YOU_SURE_YOU_WOULD_LIKE_TO_REPORT_THIS_COMMENT_TO_A_MODERATOR + '? \
			<br /><br /> \
			<button onclick="Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true)"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.NO + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.NEVER_MIND + '</button>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<button onclick="Dsq.Post.report(' + id + ', true);"><strong>' + Dsq.Strings.YES + '</strong>, ' + Dsq.Strings.FLAG_INAPPROPRIATE_COMMENT + '</button><br /><br />'
			+ Dsq.Strings.THIS_WILL_FLAG_COMMENTS_FOR_MODERATORS_TO_TAKE_ACTION + '. \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title, id);
		}
	};



	this.showAlert = function(id, msg) {
		var msgEl = Dsq.$('dsq-comment-message-' + id);
		var alert = '<div class="dsq-comment-alert">' + msg + '</div>';

		msgEl.innerHTML = alert + msgEl.innerHTML;
	};

};
// Dsq.Post


/**
 * Dsq.Thread
 */
Dsq.Thread = new function() {
	this.fc = null;
	this.ff = null;
	this.ac = null;

	
	this.adminIsOn = false;

	
	
	

	this.hlComment = null;
	this.hlCommentClass = null;

	this.getNextComment = function(el) {
		var start_id = el.id;
		while(el = el.nextSibling) {
			if(el.id && el.id.indexOf('dsq-comment-') != -1 && el.id != start_id) {
				return el;
			}
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.getActiveCommentId = function() {
		if (document.URL.indexOf('#comment-') >= 0) {
			var anchor = document.URL.slice(document.URL.indexOf('#') + 1);
			return anchor.replace('comment-', '');
		}
		return null;
	};

	this.highlightAnchor = function() {
		var i = this.getActiveCommentId();
		if (i == null) return false;
		var id = 'dsq-comment-' + i;
		var hash = window.location.hash;

		// Toggle the hash incase the comment isn't available when the page loads
		// for WebKit-based browsers.
		if (Dsq.Utils.webkit) {
			window.location.hash = '';
			window.location.hash = hash;
		}

		this.hlComment = Dsq.$(id);
		// Adding this conditional guard pending #289
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlCommentClass = this.hlComment.className;
		this.hlComment.className += ' dsq-hl-anchor';

		setTimeout("Dsq.Thread.highlightClear()", 3000);
	};

	this.highlightClear = function() {
		if (!this.hlComment) {
			return;
		}
		this.hlComment.className = this.hlCommentClass;
	};

	this.login = function(toggle) {
		// toggle id is #dsq-reply-login-[id]
		var postId;
		if(toggle.id.indexOf('dsq-reply-login') != -1) {
			postId = toggle.id.slice(16);
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-reply-' + postId);
		} else {
			var container = Dsq.$('dsq-post-add');
		}

		if(toggle) {
			if(toggle.className == 'dsq-login-active') {
				Dsq.Iframes.showReplyIframeInContainerIfAllowed(container, postId);
				toggle.className = '';
			} else {
				Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
				toggle.className = 'dsq-login-active';
			}
		} else {
			Dsq.Iframes.showLoginIframeInContainer(container, postId);
		}

		if(Dsq.Utils.ie) { Dsq.Utils.fixIframesIE(); }
	};


	this.paginate = function(page, el_clicked, per_page) {
		// Use extra_params to pass any override parameters that we need to persist.
		var extra_params = '';

		// "Per page" can either be overriden by providing it as an argument
		// (per-call) or setting the disqus_per_page override variable (global).
		if(typeof per_page == 'undefined') {
			per_page = null;
		}
		if(typeof disqus_per_page != 'undefined' && per_page === null) {
			per_page = disqus_per_page;
		}

		if(typeof disqus_sort != 'undefined') {
			extra_params += '&sort=' + disqus_sort;
		}
		if(per_page !== null) {
			extra_params += '&per_page=' + per_page;
		}

		Dsq.$('dsq-pagination').innerHTML += '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading-small.gif">';
		
		if(el_clicked) {
			el_clicked.style.display = 'none';
		}
		
		Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'will_rick_warren_get_a_pass_while_jeremiah_wright_is_flung_under_the_bus'
			+ '&p='		+ page
			+ extra_params);
	};

	this.sortBy = function(sort) {
		var disqus_script = document.createElement('script');
		var disqus_date = new Date();

		if (location.hash != '') {
			location.hash = '#disqus_thread';
		}

		if(typeof(disqus_url) == 'undefined') {
			disqus_url = disqus_href;
		}
		disqus_script.type = 'text/javascript';
		disqus_script.src = 'http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/thread.js'
			+ '?slug='	+ 'will_rick_warren_get_a_pass_while_jeremiah_wright_is_flung_under_the_bus'
			+ '&sort='	+ sort
			+ '&title='
			+ '&'		+ disqus_date.getTime();

		Dsq.$('dsq-comments').innerHTML = '<img src="http://media.disqus.com/images/loading.gif">';
		Dsq.container.appendChild(disqus_script);
	};

	this.subscribe = function(status, email) {
		// `status` is an int -- 1 to subscribe, 0 to unsubscribe
		if(Dsq.jsonData.request.is_authenticated || email) {
			// If authenticated user OR anonymous email provided

			if(email) {
				Dsq.Popup._closePopup(null, true);
			}

			Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/subscribe.js'
				+'?status=' 	+ status
				+ '&slug='		+ 'will_rick_warren_get_a_pass_while_jeremiah_wright_is_flung_under_the_bus'
				+ '&email=' 	+ encodeURIComponent(email));

		} else if(!email) {
			// If anonymous user and no email has been provided yet, prompt for email

			var title = 'Subscribe to this comment thread';
			var message = ' \
				New comments will be sent directly to your email inbox! \
				<div class="dsq-subscribe-submit"> \
					<p><strong>Enter your email address below.</strong></p> \
					<input type="text" id="dsq-subscribe-email"> \
					<button onclick="Dsq.Thread.subscribe(1, Dsq.$(\'dsq-subscribe-email\').value)">Subscribe</button> \
				</div> \
			';

			Dsq.Popup.popModal(message, title);
		}
	};

	this.showSettings = function() {
		if (!Dsq.jsonData.request.is_moderator) {
			return;
		}

		/* The form has to be re-designed when more options will come out. */
		var html = 'Automatically close comments after <input size="3" id="dsq-thread-days-alive" value="' + Dsq.jsonData.thread.days_alive + '" type="text" /> days. Existing comments will still be displayed.<br /><br />(Using 0 days will disable this feature)<br /><br />'
								 + '<button onclick="Dsq.Thread.updateDaysAlive();" class="dsq-button-small"><span>Save</span></button>'
								 + '<span id="dsq-thread-settings-status" class="dsq-options-status"></span>';
		Dsq.Popup.popModal(html, 'Settings');
	};

	this.updateDaysAlive = function() {
		var days = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-days-alive').value;
		var status = Dsq.$('dsq-thread-settings-status');
		Dsq.Utils.postToUrl('http://disqus.com/forums/jackandjillpolitics/update_days_alive.js', {days:days,thread:Dsq.jsonData.thread.id});
		status.innerHTML = 'Saved!';
		window.setTimeout(function() { status.innerHTML = ''; }, 1000);
	};
};
// Dsq.Thread

Dsq.Events = function() {
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var handlers = {};
	var getHandlers = function(event) {
		if (handlers[event] === undefined) {
			handlers[event] = [];
		}
		return handlers[event];
	};

	// Public
	// Value keys : postId, node, xtype
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_CREATED = 1;
	// Value keys : postId, opened
	obj.REPLY_IFRAME_TOGGLED = 2;
	obj.fire = function(event, opt_value) {
		if (!event) {
			throw new Error('Unknown event');
		}
		var value = opt_value || {};
		for (var i=0; i<getHandlers(event).length; i++) {
			getHandlers(event)[i](value);
		}
	};
	obj.addHandler = function(event, callback) {
		getHandlers(event).push(callback);
	};

	return obj;
}();

/**
 * Dsq.Realtime
 */
Dsq.Realtime = new function() {
	var initialized = false;
	var interval = null;
	var last_checked = Dsq.jsonData.request.timestamp;
	var new_posts = [];
	var ongoing_request = false;
	var prev_script = null;

	function updateNewPostCount() {
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-alert').style.display = new_posts.length ? 'block' : 'none';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-queued').innerHTML = new_posts.length
		+ ' new '
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, 'comment', 'comments')
		+ Dsq.Utils.pluralize(new_posts.length, ' was', ' were')
		+ ' just posted.';

		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.SHOW + ')';
	}

	function insertNewPosts() {
		var post_id = null;
		var after_id = Dsq.$('dsq-sort-select').value === 'oldest' ? -1 : null;

		for (var i=0; i<new_posts.length; i++) {
			post_id = new_posts[i];
			Dsq.Post.insert(after_id, post_id, Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id].message);
			Dsq.Post.incrementPostCount();
			Dsq.Post.outlineComment(post_id);
		}
		new_posts = [];
	}

	this.enableInterval = function() {
		interval = setInterval(Dsq.Realtime.check, Dsq.jsonData.context.realtime_speed);
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.ENABLED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.PAUSE + ')';
	}

	this.disableInterval = function() {
		if (interval) {
			clearInterval(interval);
			interval = null;
		}
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-status').innerHTML = Dsq.Strings.PAUSED;
		Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').innerHTML = '(' + Dsq.Strings.RESUME + ')';
	}

	this.toggleInterval = function() {
		if (!interval) {
			Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
		} else {
			Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
		}
		return false;
	}

	this.initialize = function() {
		if (!initialized) {
			initialized = true;
			Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-toggle').onclick = this.toggleInterval;
			if (!Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				Dsq.$('dsq-realtime-show').onclick = this.show;
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
			if (Dsq.jsonData.thread.realtime_paused) {
				Dsq.Realtime.disableInterval();
			} else {
				Dsq.Realtime.enableInterval();
			}
		}
	}

	this.show = function() {
		insertNewPosts();
		updateNewPostCount();
		return false;
	}

	this.check = function() {
		if (!ongoing_request && Dsq.jsonData.realtime_enabled) {
			if (prev_script) {
				prev_script.parentNode.removeChild(prev_script);
			}
			ongoing_request = true;
			prev_script = Dsq.Utils.execScript('http://disqus.com/forums/8786119/realtime.js?timestamp=' + last_checked);
		}
	};

	this.update = function(timestamp, posts, users) {
		ongoing_request = false;
		last_checked = timestamp;

		if (users) {
			for (var user_id in users) {
				if (users.hasOwnProperty(user_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.users[user_id] = users[user_id];
					}
				}
			}
		}

		if (posts) {
			for (var post_id in posts) {
				if (posts.hasOwnProperty(post_id)) {
					if (!Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id]) {
						Dsq.jsonData.posts[post_id] = posts[post_id];
						new_posts.push(post_id);
					}
				}
			}

			if (Dsq.jsonData.forum.streaming_realtime) {
				insertNewPosts();
			} else {
				updateNewPostCount();
			}
		}
	};

}();

// DEPRECATED
Dsq.Iframes = function() {
	// Different style of object from the above. Hoping to switch to this for some reason.
	var obj = {};

	// Private
	var showIframeInContainer = function(container, id, markup) {
		// Look through container for iframes, hiding them, except show one that matches id
		// If none of them matched id, create a new iframe using markup and insert it.
		// Returns the iframe node if and only if it was newly created.
		var found = false;
		for (var i=0; i<container.childNodes.length; i++) {
			var child = container.childNodes[i];
			if (child.nodeName == 'IFRAME') {
				if (child.id == id) {
					child.style.display = 'block';
					found = true;
				} else {
					child.style.display = 'none';
				}
			}
		}
		if (found) {
			return;
		}
		// The iframe wasn't found, so construct it and add it to the container.
		// Don't use innerHTML because it might reload iframes
		var div = document.createElement('div');
		div.innerHTML = markup;
		var iframe = div.childNodes[0];
		div.removeChild(iframe);
		container.appendChild(iframe);
		return iframe;
	};

	// Public
	obj.makeReplyIframeId = function(opt_postId, opt_xtype) {
		var id = 'dsq-post-add-iframe';
		if (opt_xtype) {
			id += '-' + opt_xtype;
		}
		if (opt_postId) {
			id += '-' + opt_postId;
		}
		return id;
	};
	obj.makeLoginIframeId = function(opt_postId) {
		if (!opt_postId) {
			return 'dsq-login-iframe';
		}
		return 'dsq-login-iframe-' + opt_postId;
	};
	obj.makeReplyIframeName = function(opt_postId, opt_xtype) {
		var name = 'dsq-reply-frame';
		if (opt_xtype) {
			name += '-' + opt_xtype;
		}
		if (opt_postId) {
			name += '-' + opt_postId;
		}
		return name;
	};
	obj.showReplyIframeInContainer = function(container, opt_postId, opt_extraParams, opt_className) {
		// Construct the id so we can check if it's already present.
		// Hide any other iframes we find, and show this one if it's found.
		var params = opt_extraParams || {};
		// use xtype in the id and name so we can distinguish media replies from text replies:
		var id = Dsq.Iframes.makeReplyIframeId(opt_postId, params.xtype);
		var name = Dsq.Iframes.makeReplyIframeName(opt_postId, params.xtype);
		var attributes = {
			'id': id,
			'name': name,
			'class': opt_className || 'dsq-post-reply'
			};
		var markup = Dsq.Templates.frameReply(opt_postId, opt_extraParams, attributes);
		var iframe = showIframeInContainer(container, id, markup);
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-4597534">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4597534" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4597534" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4597534">MK</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4597534" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4597534" class="dsq-comment-message">Truly amazing!  I am a member of Trinity and have been for 15 years. Rev. Wright was my pastor.  You write about Barack "throwing him under the bus" and yet you conveniently FORGET that he first stood by him in March.  It wasn\'t until Rev. Wright reappeared and acted like a fool that Barack broke his ties with him.  Get the history straight.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-4599153">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4599153" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4599153" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4599153">Micheline </span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4599153" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4599153" class="dsq-comment-message">Co-sign</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-4599271">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4599271" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4599271" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4599271">khal02</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4599271" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4599271" class="dsq-comment-message">Thank you. Barack stood by Rev. Wright for months and took a lot of heat for it. What was he supposed to do after Rev. Wright did the electric slide and threw his hooks up at the Natl Press Club.... cosign?</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-4604260">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4604260" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4604260" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4604260">Justice58</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4604260" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4604260" class="dsq-comment-message">I couldn\'t agree more!</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-4597979">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4597979" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4597979" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4597979">Admiral_Komack</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4597979" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4597979" class="dsq-comment-message">I thought Barack Obama "threw him under the bus" (Wright) only after he (Wright) acted the fool at the National Press Club.<br>In this beginning Obama did stand by Wright.</div>\
	 </div>\
	 </li>\
	 <li id="dsq-comment-4615810">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4615810" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4615810" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4615810">whiterosebuddy</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4615810" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4615810" class="dsq-comment-message">The left is so pissed about Warren\'s position on gay marriage. Don\'t folks recall in the debates,  Biden said in the VP debate that him and Obama are  against gay marriage.<br><br>It seems they agree on that issue.<br><br>So, let\'s move this discussion to another level. Beyond the gay hysteria and focus on what Obama is doing here and how it is a powerful political move.<br><br>Something else to know about why folks respect Rick Warren.<br><br>He\'s dedicated a lot of life and resources to helping the poor and the sick. He\'s donated 90% of his book royalties. He paid back his church for the last 25 years of his minister\'s salary. He\'s definately conservative and on the right, but he\'s hardly extreme.<br><br><br><br>Warren is a leader of the evangelical movement where the focus is on the poor, AIDS, global warming. Taking the focus away from abortions, gay marriage within the evangelical community. On these issues, the evangelical community is more in tune with the Democrats and Obama . This leadership is what I think Obama is trying to gain from Warren within his community and I think that he is advancing the poor and middle class agenda by doing so<br><br>.All those people demanding respect need to open up their hearts and be as tolerant of Warren as they want others to be of them.<br><br>Obama has a plan. His plan is to advance the cause of the poor and the middle class. He is a brilliant strategist and he realizes that the right and the capitalists made an unholy alliance with the evangelicals to gain political power.  The evangelicals have more in common with Democrats adn Obama intends to create a solidarity of leadership on those issues and Democrats will be in power for decades to come.<br><br>This will empower the masses and bring great hope and advancement to our country.<br><br>Obama is going to effectively break the GOP grip on the evangelical right.<br><br>He is a master ...sit back and watch him work on our COMMON INTERESTS which will lift us all up.<br><br>At this point in the year...can\'t you appreciate the real beauty of this!!</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-4616306">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4616306" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4616306" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4616306" href="http://www.actsoffaithblog.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Acts Of Faith Blog</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4616306" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4616306" class="dsq-comment-message">On this issue white rose buddy and justice 58 are behaving no better than trolls. Is this the same justice 58 with the avatar of a half-naked woman that you can see on other blogs? You want the space to air your "religious" views without any challenge. You continue to engage in dissent under cloak of religious choices that are yours and yours alone. You can only speak for yourself - not for others. Every person who worships "God" is not a Christian. Every PERSON WHO CLAIMS TO BE CHRISTIAN DOES NOT WORSHIP GOD. <br><br>WRB, didn\'t you insist that Susan Taylor owned and sold Essence (years after she\'d left the magazine in fact) despite the fact that like 5 people corrected you (that she never owned it), but you still insisted on making your point? <br><br>Your point about gays was made some time ago yet you two keep insisting on inserting it into every thread and comment section related to gays. Why do you feel the need for so much attention?<br><br>You want to silence any who disagree with you which is why you continue to carp about this. <br><br>I have said all that needs to be said and people can look up our profiles to read all comments. <br><br>I will not be silenced and will continue to be actively engaged in matters that are most important to the black community and call it as I see it. The biggest problems Black people face are other Black racist/self-hating/dogmatically selectively religious people.<br><br>You are free to disagree but as as long as you continue your mantra of "I\'m Just Quoting Scripture" without taking ANY RESPONSIBILITY you are not adding anything to efforts of empowerment or personal responsibility that Black people in the US are going to need if they are to survive. <br><br>Obama will not be \'saving\' Black people if it means angering whites to secure his Administration. We are our own worst enemies.<br><br><a href="http://snipurl.com/9362c" rel="nofollow">http://snipurl.com/9362c</a></div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-4616464">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4616464" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4616464" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4616464">whiterosebuddy</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4616464" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4616464" class="dsq-comment-message">Actually what is going on here is that posters are expressing views for and against the christian religion and asserting what is wrong with Warren. That is eliciting opposing responses. That you seem to be unable to handle and are now resorting to calling folks trolls.  If you think posters are trolls surely you know what to do right?  I will be happy to treat you the same.<br><br>Now as far as<br><br><br>Heartsandflowers writes:<br>"You continue to engage in dissent under cloak of religious choices that are yours and yours alone. You can only speak for yourself - not for others"<br><br>Um, who in the world are you presuming anyone is speaking for other than themselves. Do you think you speak for a group or others..is that why you are laboring under false assumptions?<br><br>While it is true that every person who worships God is not a Christian...for you to say this:<br>"Every PERSON WHO CLAIMS TO BE CHRISTIAN DOES NOT WORSHIP GOD. "<br><br>Means you have no grasp of the Christian religion and perhaps that accounts for your utterally defensive responses which are not making any sense. You are engaging in attacking people perhaps becasue you simply do not understand Christianity as a religion.  Cause your statements are not making sense.  For the record all Christians do worship God.<br><br>HAF says:<br>"Your point was made some time ago yet you two keep insisting on inserting it into every thread and comment section related to gays."<br><br>Why do you make up stuff. The thread topic determines what is stated. You get to scroll past it, if you don\'t want to read it. If someone links to the topic on a thread, it is discussed. A very simply thing.  The daily threads say, drop the links, debate etc. Are you under some other understanding?<br><br>"You want to silence any who disagree with you which is why you continue to carp about this. "<br><br>huh? where are you getting these out of left field statements. Geez.<br>I do not try to silence anyone. I welcome the debate and discussion. So again you are coming up with blatantly false commentary.  No one is carping other than you. There are many many people on the site who agree with your views and in fact, mine voice is a minority on the site. Most everyone on the site supports gay marriage like you.  So, you are in no way being silenced. <br><br>then you say:<br>"You are free to disagree but as as long as you continue your mantra of "I\'m Just Quoting Scripture" without taking ANY RESPONSIBILITY you are not adding anything to efforts of empowerment or personal responsibility that Black people in the US are going to need if they are to survive."<br><br><br>Heartsandflowers, no one who posts has to have your objective of empowering anything or anyone nor do they need to take any responsibility for your need to do so.  Those are your beliefs and you are entitled to them...just don\'t try to hijack a thread on that premise cause it is not the topic nor the goal of the discussion. <br><br>It seems you are your own worst enemy with your assumptions, conjecture and speculations on what others intent, motivations and objectives are. Try not to project those onto other posters and you may find that no one is aiming anything at you personally or carping as you have with other posters.<br><br>Merry Christmas!</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-4615307">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4615307" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4615307" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4615307">Sepia</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4615307" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4615307" class="dsq-comment-message">From my perspective. Obama didn\'t throw Rev. Wright under the bus. It was Rev. Wright who threw Obama under the bus when he decided to show out at the Press Club function. <br><br>With that said. I\'m looking forward to Jan. 20th 2009 and NO ONE will steal my joy.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4616175" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4616175" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4616175">rikyrah</span>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4616175" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4616175" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>From my perspective. Obama didn\'t throw Rev. Wright under the bus. It was Rev. Wright who threw Obama under the bus when he decided to show out at the Press Club function.</i><br><br>It was the National Press Club. Remember, the Moyers interview went fine. So did the speech in Detroit. It was the National Press Club that was it.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-4616491">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4616491" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4616491" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4616491" href="http://muzikalthoughts.blogspot.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Muzikal203</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4616491" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4616491" class="dsq-comment-message">I still think Rev. Wright did that on purpose to force Obama to distance himself, note how after that situation we never heard from him again. If he was really trying to make trouble for Obama as some people alleged, he would have been all over the place.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-4616473">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4616473" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4616473" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4616473" href="http://muzikalthoughts.blogspot.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Muzikal203</a>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4616473" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4616473" class="dsq-comment-message">Actually, Obama distanced himself from Wright even before he made the announcement. Rev. Wright was supposed to give the invocation, and Obama dis-invited him because he felt he would be too controversial. I think it\'s fair to compare this situation to Rev. Wright\'s and ask if there is indeed a double standard here, I think there is. Sure Obama doesn\'t agree with everything Warren said, he didn\'t agree with everything Wright said either.</div>\
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	 <li id="dsq-comment-4627758">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4627758" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4627758" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4627758">Sepia</span>\
	 </cite>\
	 </div>\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4627758" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4627758" class="dsq-comment-message">Remember that Rev. Wright told PEO that he (Obama) would have to distance himself from him (Wright). After PEO announced his presidential run, Obama apologized to Rev Wright and Wright said it was OK and called out the NY Times for trying to start a war between Wright and Obama. But folks seem to forget that.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4602802" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4602802" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4602802">Justice58</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4602802" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>Let\'s keep it real: Rick Warren is a pastor that holds THE SAME VIEWS as about 95% of other Christian pastors in the country if we want to be intellectually honest.</i><br><br><br><br>Tell it!</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4607703">Lavender</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4607703" class="dsq-comment-message">Which means he could have chosen from the 5% who don\'t. Or he could have chosen a cleric from another religion.   Or, better yet, don\'t have a religious invocation at all. Do we or do we not have separation of church and state?</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4612451" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4612451">Justice58</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4612451" class="dsq-comment-message">He didn\'t. He chose Rick Warren. Did you think he was kidding when he repeatly talked about unity during his campaign?  PEO is about bringing the country together. I\'m for unity. He is PE of all of America!</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4613936">Lavender</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4613936" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'m for separation of church and state. We do not live in a christian country and I see no reason on earth why we need to have our inaugural events include two christian clerics, or clerics of any religion, no matter what their politics.<br><br>I know it\'s tradition. I\'m just saying...maybe that could change someday soon. And as long as I\'m wishing, I wish that g*d would be taken out of the pledge of allegiance. We don\'t have to pushback against heathen commies anymore.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4614396">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4614396" class="dsq-comment-message">WE have separation of church and state in terms of our legislative body. Separation of church and state does not mean there is no religion in matters governing state. All you have to do is read the founding documents or US Constitution or look on our money...\'in god we trust\'...separation means that we cannot impose our religious beliefs on others. Obama is not imposing his beliefs, but yet and instill each and every politician is sworn to uphold the Constitution by swearing on a book of faith, bible or koran.<br><br>As Obama so eloquently explained, we cannot make changes in the law based on religion. If you feel strongly about an issue it must have a rational secular basis to even be considered for governmental policy or legislation. Your argument for it can not be based on religious tenets rather it must have reasoning without religious beliefs.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4614501">Lavender</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4614501" class="dsq-comment-message">Following this logic, Rick Warren\'s and other fundamentalist\'s religious issues with homosexuality and  Gay Marriage should not interfere with law making. Yet he and other evangelicals continue to work to change or create laws based on their religious beliefs and they still get their tax exempt status. Hmmm.<br><br>There is no rational secular basis for denying marriage equality.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4615296">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4615296" class="dsq-comment-message">Warren and other fundamentalist can not make any law that is based on religion, true. However, they can mount a secular argument that many people may support whether they have the same religious faith or not.  <br><br>Warren is allowed as a citizen along with all his parishoners to mount any campaign they choose about an issue, just as the catholic church does on abortion. Tax exempt status does not say the members of a church cannot agree to become politically active on an issue. Tax exempt status is conferred because the government has no right to regulate religion. We are a religious free country and I am certain you know the history of that and why.<br><br>While you do not believe there is a secular basis for opposing same gender marriage, many others disagree.<br><br>Most disagree on the basis of family and that not being a model that society wants to encourage. The institution of marriage was granted benefits by the state and government as an incentive for them to relinquish the rights they had to the INDIVIDUAL pursuit of happiness and liberty. Marriage is viewed by the state as a constraint on sexual conduct and personal liberty.<br><br>Same gender sex marriage offers no benefit to the government in terms of a role model the vast majority of society want to perpetuate and same gender marriages are based on anything but the relinquishing of individual personal pursuit of happiness. Rather it is reveling in the individual sexual desire of the partnership as it is the sexual conduct of the individual that is claimed as their commonality that warrants them being a special interest group.<br><br>That is the secular basis that many oppose same gender sex.<br><br>There is no such thing as equality from a secular viewpoint as all individuals in the society are free to marry the opposite gender. Not to do so is their choice and marrying the same gender does not benefit the state.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4615479">Lavender</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4615479" class="dsq-comment-message">WhiteRose, you\'ve lost me here. Maybe I\'m just fatigued after a long day at work.<br><br>Anyway, I wish you and yours a joyous Christmas.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4615828">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4615828" class="dsq-comment-message">It ain\'t important, lol   we will chat another day<br><br>I wish you a blessed Christmas as well Lavender...hope that you have wonderful memories to treasure for years to come and that your family is blessed with all the joy the season brings<br><br>Merry Christmas!!</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4603168">AM2k6</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4603168" class="dsq-comment-message">CPL:<br><br>   Posts like this is why I\'ve come to Love you!</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4602136">carolinagirl</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4602136" class="dsq-comment-message">Aron said:<br><br>"Christian ministers are called to preach the word of God without compromise. I haven\'t yet read teachings in the bible that are at all ambiguous about sexuality. So, Rick Warren or any other preacher is not supposed to avoid the issue simply because it\'s controversial. The stand he takes is actually a mainline Christian view. They are also supposed to be careful not to lead others into activity which will bring about judgment for them. So, be mindful that when a pastor takes a hardline view, especially one that doesn\'t win him favor, he might just be doing it because he\'s been convicted by God to take the position and further he might just be doing it because he cares more about peoples\' salvation than whether they like him."<br><br>You make a valid point, but then this puts the argument back on the church and the bible and I don\'t think anybody wants to go there. If a pastor says that homosexuality is a sin b/c that\'s what\'s in the bible, he is deemed a bigot. Don\'t be mad at him, he\'s just the messenger. Be mad at the message. LOL. I think I should have left that alone.<br><br>Oh yeah, about Rick Warren and Jeremiah Wright. Strawberries and bananas (I\'m sick of saying apples and oranges) and two VERY different sets of cicumstances. Unless Rick Warren holds a conference and starts saying stuff like, "Straight people clap like this, y\'all..... And gay people clap like this y\'all."<br><br>I think he\'ll be okay to give a prayer. Which is what an invocation is right? A prayer? I may need to go look that up again.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4602838">Justice58</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4602838" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>You make a valid point, but then this puts the argument back on the church and the bible and I don\'t think anybody wants to go there. If a pastor says that homosexuality is a sin b/c that\'s what\'s in the bible, he is deemed a bigot. <b>Don\'t be mad at him, he\'s just the messenger. Be mad at the message.</b> LOL. I think I should have left that alone.</i><br><br><br><br>Yet, you\'re nailing it to the wall!</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4602953">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4602953" class="dsq-comment-message">Very well HAMMERED to the wall</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4602943">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4602943" class="dsq-comment-message">AHA! <br><br>caught you..<br><br>.understanding the messenger ain\'t the message will get you in serious trouble around here!!!<br><br>lol lol....</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4603173" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4603173" href="http://www.actsoffaithblog.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Acts Of Faith Blog</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4603173" class="dsq-comment-message">Of course if you want to quote the Jewish laws (like in Leviticus) in the Old Testament you should be following ALL of them not just the ones you\'d want to use to make a point. There\'s more than 600. <br><br>And it\'s also funny how nobody seems to quote Jesus - who by the way said not one word about homosexuality - but that goes against this never-ending argument, huh?<br><br>You can follow a list of do\'s and don\'ts which are bound to be broken and becomes the sole focus of being "religious" and has nothing to do with loving God but about following dogma. Or you can have a moral compass and "love your neighbor as yourself".  <br><br>Notice not one word about everybody doing the same thing, acting the same way, but loving people who tend to be hateful and judgmental. <br><br>Black people had better remember all of this religious grandstanding and fake moralizing can be turned on a dime against us as it has been in the past, like when you couldn\'t argue with white people about why enslaving our ancestors was written in the Bible too.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4604186">carolinagirl</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4604186" class="dsq-comment-message">Umm.. yeah. That\'s why I really don\'t go to church that much. Duh! The point is not to get mad at religious people, but at the religion, because that\'s where these beliefs originate. But all that does is cause trouble. No one wants to go after the religion. Gay people can marry whoever the hell they want. I don\'t care. Just like I don\'t care about Rick fucking Warren saying a fucking prayer.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4604277" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4604277" href="http://www.actsoffaithblog.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Acts Of Faith Blog</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4604277" class="dsq-comment-message">Ok I thought I was dealing with another Bible Basher. People just don\'t want to admit their beliefs are not based on their own study, comparisons and investigations but from listening to what some self professed "authority" approximator says. Who\'s usually a liar anyway.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4604364">carolinagirl</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4604364" class="dsq-comment-message">You show your own bias w/ that comment. "Bible Basher"? Yeah, well, anyway I\'ve said my peace about this.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4604553" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4604553" href="http://www.actsoffaithblog.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Acts Of Faith Blog</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4604553" class="dsq-comment-message">Nope I like to correctly identify behavior. If one uses the bible to appropriate moral superiority of one\'s viewpoint over others one is a bible basher against that person. Note my use of slavery justification as an example. I wasn\'t refering to you personally.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4606357">soulsistah02</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4606357" class="dsq-comment-message">Wow...this is really personal for you isn\'t it? What has been your experience with Christianity where it elicits such an immediate response to discredit it?</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4606459" href="http://www.actsoffaithblog.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Acts Of Faith Blog</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4606459" class="dsq-comment-message">Well first you have to define Christianity. I know of a lot of false religions as well as legalistic interpreters who have caused great harm. This focus on selectively choosing passages with no context is misleading. When some people set themselves up as being the definers I will question that as should we all. Black people are in no position to claim moral superiority over anything when you look at the state of the community today. It\'s easy to point fingers at others but \'not remove the plank from your own eye\'. Also silence on a subject implies consent and I will speak out against racism and hatred whether it is by whites or blacks. People should be able to withstand scrutiny and be accountable. This only tells me how damaged people are, how we are not all allies, and the time comes to leave those behind who don\'t want to get with the program. Gay people are not responsible for black people being criminals and men killing each other, nor the large amount of unmarried women having kids, nor men not being around, nor the average net worth being $12K, nor the bulk of the problems in the middle and working classes. They also aren\'t responsible for the number of rapes and abuse against black women where you have to fear leaving our house for being approached on the street. Nor for the lack of education and desire for learning because that\'s acting white. But somehow certain people choose to focus on gay gay gay and god said this when we already know whites said the same thing when they enslaved some of our ancestors. But those same people who come here want to ignore that because it shows just how ignorant and shortsighted they are. But they can take comfort in their words. Like all the others who spread hate nd kill in the name of their god.  They\'re certainly not unique!</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4606520">soulsistah02</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4606520" class="dsq-comment-message">Your response was thoughtful, however, it was purely academic. It still doesn\'t answer my question.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4606591" href="http://www.actsoffaithblog.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Acts Of Faith Blog</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4606591" class="dsq-comment-message">How do I go from taking something personal to be academic? I certainly don\'t view the demise of people as clinical research. Having a reality check does require being precise and clear headed. And those problems I listed are deadly and soul killing. They should be the focus of outrage and until they are people will continue to be a liability to themselves and others.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4608840">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4608840" class="dsq-comment-message">The issue here hersandflowers is that you are taking the debate PERSONALLY.  You are confronting people about their beliefs when their beliefs are not at issue.<br><br>The topic is christianity and homosexuality.  That means that religion will be discussed. It does not mean that posters should be attacked under the guise of \'scrutiny\'  It does mean that you should be able to engage in the discourse by knowing what religion says about homosexuality.<br><br>No one has to meet your scrutiny or personal criteria. Rather, the topic is to be discussed. That does not require you challenging posters at all. If you choose to counter an assertion it should focus on religion or homosexuality not the poster.<br><br>As soulsista said this hits some PERSONAL nerve of yours which is not at ALL the topic. No one is telling YOU how to live your life.<br><br>What folks are doing is saying any individual homosexual or not who chooses not to follow the Christian tenet should not try and attack the church or the tenets of the religion as a means to demand any rights.<br><br>Warren is right as a Christian who beliefs in those tenets to respond as he has. In fact, under the tenets of the religion he is obligated to respond in that manner.<br><br>And all anyone here has done is point that out and correlate it with the hypocrisy of homosexuals who want to claim the faith but yet reject it\'s tenets, because they do not want to be accountable for their sinful ways as defined by Christianity.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4613695" href="http://www.actsoffaithblog.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Acts Of Faith Blog</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4613695" class="dsq-comment-message">You and your ilk are also taking it personally otherwise why would you keep telling everyone YOUR OPINIONS about your beliefs and whining about the moderators and not being able to disagree and MOVE on? Everyone does not share your interpretations. Are you now going to start telling people unless they believe what you interpret they are not following you God and that\'s the \'right\' God? When poison is introduced you have to cut it off at th head. As I have pointed out numerous times and what you and yours REFUSE to address are the REAL issues destroying the Black community. You just want to be allowed to spread your dissent without being challenged. We all have the right to express ourselves so don\'t try to censor me either. I will continue to challenge the discourse and point out the animus and racism that comes from whites as well as blacks. Maybe if you weren\'t so busy throwing stones you\'d be humble enough to learn something. I\'m very critical of the gay rights industrial complex and white gays on my blog but I will not be silent when I come here and have to scroll through this nonsense. I will not be silent about the hyprocrisy of those who may look like me. If you really cared  about others you\'d be doing something abou THAT. But I don\'t expect any of you to actual do anything the bible says when you get so much joy tearing others down instead of building them up. That\'s a real ally. You are no ally. You are like the Pharasees who talked a lot about following God, judged people and picking salient things to focus but wouldn\'t listen to Jesus. But feel free to keep arguing and quoting. Because that\'s so much more important than living by example.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4613798">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4613798" class="dsq-comment-message">reply to you at the top of the thread</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4611057" class="dsq-comment-message">I wake up co-signing comments! Bravo, whiterosebuddy!</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4604631">Justice58</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4604631" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4604631" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>And it\'s also funny how nobody seems to quote Jesus - who by the way said not one word about homosexuality - but that goes against this never-ending argument, huh?</i><br><br>Jesus is God!  Whatever the Father said, Jesus said. <br><br>God The Father<br>God The Son<br>God The Holy Spirit<br><br>All are one. Neither contradicts the other. <br><br>Jesus stated in John 10:30....I and my Father are one!</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4604770" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4604770" href="http://www.actsoffaithblog.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Acts Of Faith Blog</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4604770" class="dsq-comment-message">Exactly! The Old Testament was proceeded by the New Testament as well which brings me back to my point. Those that want to quote Old Testament scripture need to follow it. Jesus was the new way so people didn\'t have to sacrifice animals and all sorts of rituals to get right with God. By the way not every Christian believes in the Trinity either. And Catholics don\'t follow the Hebrew bible but have their own. So if you want to argue who\'s the \'most Christian of them all\' go right ahead. It starts to get a bit ridiculous when it has been made obvious everyone doesn\'t believe the same thing but some people want to claim their way is the \'right\' way and the ONLY way. God has more compassion than most people who claim to be speaking with authority about   she/he/it!!!!</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4605072" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4605072">Justice58</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4605072" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4605072" class="dsq-comment-message"><i> Those that want to quote Old Testament scripture need to follow it. Jesus was the new way so people didn\'t have to sacrifice animals and all sorts of rituals to get right with God.</i><br><br><br>We\'re not under the Law. We have a new Covenant. <b>Jesus was the way because there was no other way to redemption.</b> Jesus was the sacrificial lamb of God.<br><br>God\'s Word is not dependent on whether one believes or not. <br><br>Yes, you\'re so right about God having compassion. He does. Not only that, but  He is abundant in Mercy and Forgiveness.  If we confess our sins & repent.... He forgives sin!</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4605093" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4605093" href="http://www.actsoffaithblog.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Acts Of Faith Blog</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4605093" class="dsq-comment-message">The sin of pride being one of the first that needs repenting</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4605167">Justice58</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4605167" class="dsq-comment-message">Heartsandflowers,<br><br>I am only quoting God\'s Word. I am not above anyone. I\'m certainly not perfect.....and a long way from being perfect.  Nor will I be until I meet my Heavenly Father. I sin. This is why I confess my sin before God and ask for forgiveness.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4605266" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4605266" href="http://www.actsoffaithblog.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Acts Of Faith Blog</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4605266" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4605266" class="dsq-comment-message">Because reading something out loud or in this case hijacking every thread with your animus under cloak of religiosity and ignoring the LESSONS and GUIDEPOSTS given gets you off the hook. Like white people who enslaved, beat, raped, bred and separated Black people by QUOTING GOD\'S WORD TOO means whoever decides to do it is justified with no room for critical thinking and perspective. Or real learning!</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4605337">Justice58</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4605337" class="dsq-comment-message">I give my response to a post. You don\'t have to read it , agree with it or respond to it!<br><br>If I am breaking any rules, then I expect the Moderators will tell me.Until then, I have as much right to post on this board as you do.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4605409" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4605409" href="http://www.actsoffaithblog.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Acts Of Faith Blog</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4605409" class="dsq-comment-message">Nobody said you didn\'t but that doesn\'t mean your comments should go without any scrutiny. You state your opinions as facts. I am only pointing out that many people quote scripture for their own purposes and how easily it can be used against others. Believe what you will.  If you are unable to withstand it or justify it that\'s on you. Believe me you could go to any number of sites and hear about certain people being cursed because of a scripture but don\'t run off now!</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4605612">Justice58</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4605612" class="dsq-comment-message"><i>Nobody said you didn\'t but that doesn\'t mean your comments should go without any scrutiny.</i><br><br><br>I never said it or expected it. It\'s called a debate. Did not Rikyrah state in the open thread...."Drop those links. Engage in debate. Give us trivia and gossip too".<br><br><br><i> You state your opinions as facts.</i><br><br><br>They\'re not my opinions. My opinions don\'t matter. Opinions are like a nose...everyone has one.<br><br> I don\'t have my own purpose or an agenda on this board.  I am here for debate & discussion. I\'ve been here long before CPL became a Moderator and I haven\'t noticed where any Moderator said I was breaking the rule by debating an issue just because you don\'t like or agree  to what I say.<br><br>I quote what the Scripture says about homosexuality...period! <br><br>It is God\'s Word...Not mine!</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4605670" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4605670" href="http://www.actsoffaithblog.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Acts Of Faith Blog</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4605670" class="dsq-comment-message">As long as you state scripture as a battering ram expect to be confronted about it and have the hypocrasy of those that also quote and misstate highlighted.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4605732">Justice58</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4605732" class="dsq-comment-message">If you\'re against the Scripture...Take it up with God. Furthermore, I <b>ain\'t</b> never been afraid of confrontation.  One can expect that in a debate. The Scripture is what it is. I dare not add nor take away.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4605777" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4605777" href="http://www.actsoffaithblog.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Acts Of Faith Blog</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4605777" class="dsq-comment-message">And I will continue to challenge you and anyone else who SELECTIVELY chooses what you state and claim it\'s about following scripture that you take out of context. I have yet to hear anything about the actions of anyone else in equal measure.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4605835">Justice58</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4605835" class="dsq-comment-message">There is no selective choosing on anything. You just think it is. The Scripture is very clear on homosexuality. <br><br>When the opportunity arises to discuss actions of anyone else, I still can only quote what the Scripture says.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4612938">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4612938" class="dsq-comment-message">Great<br><br>replies<br><br>Justice!</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4600823">eclecticbrotha</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4600823" class="dsq-comment-message">If Jeremiah Wright hadn\'t showed his ass at the National Press Club AFTER Obama went out on a limb to support him with his "More Perfect Union" speech then HE might have had the opportunity to do the invocation for the inauguration.  He threw himself under the bus. At least William Ayres waited until after the election to show out.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4615415">Sepia</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4615415" class="dsq-comment-message">AMEN!</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4606429">soulsistah02</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4606429" class="dsq-comment-message">I may get eviscerated for this comment, but...<br><br>I\'m glad that Wright was thrown under the bus. During the Civil Rights era, Black female suffering had to take a backseat for racial equality to be realized. When pioneers like Diane Nash, Ella Baker, and Fannie Lou Hamer offered honest critiques of the sexual oppression within the movement, male leaders explicitly told them that the movement "wasn\'t about them." <br><br>Well, the tied has certainly turned and now it is the Black community that has told Jeremiah Wright, Jesse Jackson, Andrew Young, Tavis Smiley and anyone that dare to utter a single word in criticism of Barack and Michelle Obama that this election -- this moment -- "wasn\'t about them," and proceeded to publicly severed their ties to these, ahem, "leaders."</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4626554" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4626554" href="http://theurbanista2.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Rhondacoca</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4626554" class="dsq-comment-message">Your an idiot! I am happy that you are happy that black women to this day ave never, ever, ever been able to speak about the pervasive and ugly sexism that is detrimental to our everyday lives.<br><br>This is too funny. I just wrote a long post about this.<br><br>Obama said over and over during is campiagn that their was a fierce urgency of now and whats the other one, "not this time" however he has no problem with the fierce urgency of later and saying "not this time" to black people. <br><br>Also, putting those four men all lumped together, in the same sentence tells me that you know little to nothing outside of what the white mainstream media has told your docile behind.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4632715" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4632715">soulsistah02</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4632715" class="dsq-comment-message">Rhondacoca:<br><br>It is clear that you can rant, but it seems that your reading comprehension could use a little work. If you re-read my post you\'d clearly see that I denounce and reject sexual oppression in the Black community. Now the manner in which I organized my post may be a little above your associate\'s degree from whatever technical college or trade school that you attended, but I have a pesky habit of assuming that JJP readers are reasonably intelligent and would "get it." However, you helped me to realize that there are some that are less cerebral. So in the spirit of fairness, let me dilute my post and make it easier for you to read and digest:<br><br>See Wright. See Wright make a fool of himself at the National Press Club. See Obama say that Wright made him sad. See Black people say that Wright made them sad and put him on timeout. See Civil Rights leaders make Black women be quiet "for the sake of the movement." See Soulsistah02 very sad about Black women going to the timeout corner. See Soulsistah02 happy now because Black men are being put in the timeout corner so that Black people can help Mr. Barack and Ms. Michelle go to the White House. <br><br>If the above explanation is still too intellectually rigorous, I\'ll purchase the coloring book for you.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4626718">Micheline </span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4626718" class="dsq-comment-message">Lets be real sexism does exist within  the black community as well as in the Civil Rights movement.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4606471">soulsistah02</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4606471" class="dsq-comment-message">If Wright would\'ve used wisdom and kept his mouth closed and allowed Obama to do damage control, not only would he still be Obama\'s spiritual mentor, but he\'d probably had a best-selling novel, academic appointment offers from prestigious seminaries and divinity schools, honorary doctorates, speaking engagements with high five-figure honorariums, and a successful talk show tour.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4608972" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4608972">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4608972" class="dsq-comment-message">YEP!<br>And that would have been wonderful. Because he could have shared a side of PEO that he uniquely was privvy too.<br><br>Instead, he discredited himself as a whacko, by that national press club performance.<br><br>But I got tell you, I felt Wrights angst and need to slaaap those folks back hard. It was real crafty how he told all the black folks to come at 3pm knowing they would come late and then tell the press to come at 4pm. Which meant that the white press was all sitting in the balcony!  And the blacks were on the floor of the audience.<br><br>That had to be a real motivating vision for a man who grew up in the segregation era, where black folks could only sit in the balcony and I think it fueled his performance, just the irony of his having made those white folks sit in the balcony. Every time Wright looked out at that it fired him up more<br><br>So, I can\'t hate on Wright knowing what all he lived through coming home from war and being treated like shyt after putting his life on the line for America and furthermore the man is brilliant and what he could aspire to achieve was just ridiculous in terms of the limitations.  <br><br>Wright wasn\'t right, but I am not mad at him in terms of American history. I was pissed at the political consequences he was capable of if he had derailed Obama\'s bid for the nomination.  But Obama is President and I can forgive Wright is moment of insanity after they beat up on his good name with those looped tapes.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4616311">rikyrah</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4616311" class="dsq-comment-message">You explained quite well how I was mad at Wright, but not mad at him. You explained him IN CONTEXT.  But, we must agree this - he kept his mouth shut after that until the election - didn\'t he?</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4616620">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4616620" class="dsq-comment-message">Yep!  I felt bad for Wright. He reminded me of Chris Rock, when he said...show me an old black man ...and I will show you an angry man.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4626502" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4626502" href="http://theurbanista2.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Rhondacoca</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4626502" class="dsq-comment-message">No he would not have been Obama\'s spiritual mentor or minister or whatever. Where have you been? If Obama even had relations with him he would have a problem regardless please.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4632768" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4632768">soulsistah02</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4632768" class="dsq-comment-message">It\'s clear that you have absolutely no understanding of how political relationships work. <br><br>*sighs heavily* <br><br>Special education teacher is not my vocation, and I choose not to make it one tonight. If you want to stew in your own ignorance, then by all means do so. I\'m done.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4604402" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4604402">mjohnso27</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4604402" class="dsq-comment-message">Preach!!!  Wright threw himself under that bus!</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4608306" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4608306">zackboston</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4608306" class="dsq-comment-message">yes to your comment about the women pioneers, and by the way, it\'s still two men offering the prayers and no one is saying boo about that.  where are our powerful women preachers.  if you look on warren\'s website, he preaches that women should be subservient to men.  just saying. . .</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4600108" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4600108">soulsistah02</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4600108" class="dsq-comment-message">And while Rome burns, we debate about who will offer a 120-second prayer on inauguration day. Wow...</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4600199" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4600199" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4600199">Slave Revolt</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4600199" class="dsq-comment-message">There\'s enough hypocrisy to go around--and yes Rev. W has been treated differently, and very unfairly.   My problem with Reverend Wright is that he might be a bit more self aggrandizing than he should.  Other than that, I have been heartened by his speaking out against war and racism. <br><br>Warren represents many of the folks that did not vote for Obama--but these are US citizens as well, and I think Obama takes seriously the notion that he will be president of all the people in the US.  <br><br>Also, this is excellent politics--and, aside from being inclined toward social justice, Obama is an adept politician.  He plays the game well.  <br><br>With the problems that this nation faces, it only makes sense that Obama try to establish good will so that he can maximize his political capital. <br><br>Now, if Obama invited David Duke, then I would be nervous.  Warren seems pretty harmless.  For sure, he is a bit of a ham and an opprotunist, but I think he genuinely wishes good will toward most everyone.  <br><br>This is a safe move by Obama, and it will pay back huge dividends down the road.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4616547" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4616547" href="http://muzikalthoughts.blogspot.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Muzikal203</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4616547" class="dsq-comment-message">"Warren seems harmless"<br><br>And that\'s the problem, because he\'s NOT harmless.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4600232">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4600232" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4600232" class="dsq-comment-message">Co-sign!</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4600246" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4600246">GDAWG</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4600246" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4600246" class="dsq-comment-message">holla?%$#@&?!</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4600705" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4600705">tgram</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4600705" class="dsq-comment-message">Well said, and this is a safe move by Obama.  <br><br>I couldn\'t put my finger on it but the part about Rev. Wright being "a bit more self aggrandizing than he should" is just it.  Some people fail to understand the powerful impact of Obama having someone like Rev. Wright by his side for this new adventure .  I think Obama and many in Chicago believed that would be the case in 2007 – the case that Wright would be with him all the way.  Knowing how bad the country is screwed up right now, who among us would not want our pastor’s blessing before heading into the White House? (oh, please get the oil and lay hands on me)<br><br>It saddens me that our first black president will not have his black pastor stand next to him at the inauguration.  Whose fault is it? I don’t care. Neither Rev. Jackson nor Rev. Wright will have that honor and it’s just sad…</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4614488" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4614488">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4614488" class="dsq-comment-message">It saddens me too tgram. I feel your deep disappointment and know what pride it would have been in our hearts to see that visual.<br><br>Especially Wright, as he has attended to more Presidents than any ministerin history. He was at LBJ\'s bedside when he had surgery, he was in the Rose Garden with Reagan when he & Jesse brought back RonGoodman from Syria and he was with Clinton when he had everyone at the WH to pray on his stupid oval office shenanigans.  So, it would have been a real feather for Wright to swear in the first AA President.<br><br>It is such a sad thing that the man who Obama  has shared the most spiritual fellowship with will not be there after marrying him and christening his girls. Really sad. I am sure Michelle misses Wright too.<br><br>Our people our people and the price of the struggle.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4616560" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4616560" href="http://muzikalthoughts.blogspot.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Muzikal203</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4616560" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4616560" class="dsq-comment-message">Well, they are having a Black pastor  who is pretty much the exact OPPOSITE of Warren do the benediction, that\'s supposed to appease everyone (per their talking points).</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4600438" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4600438" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4600438">Nat</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4600438" class="dsq-comment-message">I don\'t see a double standard. Obama gave Wright a chance with his speech in Philadelphia. One week later Wright blew it. Rick Warren is in the same position. If he hits all the networks and starts making people mad with heated rhetoric, don\'t you think Obama will have to drop him as well? Instead of doing this, Rick Warren has been making nice with the gay community: meeting with Melissa Etheridge (even asking her to autograph a CD), and hanging out and taking pictures at a local gay thrift store. I suppose Rick Warren has learned the lesson of Jeremiah Wright. Wright could similarly have been rehabilitated if he took the same approach as Warren.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4600496" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4600496">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4600496" class="dsq-comment-message">That is the Christian way.<br><br>Hate the sin.<br><br>Love the sinner.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4605545" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4605545" href="http://www.actsoffaithblog.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Acts Of Faith Blog</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4605545" class="dsq-comment-message">If Warren believes something he shouldn\'t back-pedal for convenience NOW. He\'s so transparent in trying to curry favor with the Obama administration and to jockey for \'spiritual leader\' props. this just proves he\'s just as fake and self-serving as most of these tv evangelists and "evangelicals". <br><br>Now that he\'s scrubbing his web sites for obvious animus he\'s being neutralized by Obama as well. Another nice Ninja move on Obama\'s part to take the venom out of a snake!</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4616528" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4616528" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4616528" href="http://muzikalthoughts.blogspot.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Muzikal203</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4616528" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4616528" class="dsq-comment-message">And THAT is what I can\'t stand about Rick Warren. He seems like a bullshit salesman, and a lot of people are willing to buy it because "he must be a good guy since he sold all of those books and Obama likes him." Rick Warren is dishonest, and he\'s only out for SELF. Sure, he does some good things, but that\'s because there are very few people on this earth who are just plain evil. But he\'s very dishonest, and he\'d throw Obama under a bus as soon as it is politically expedient. He\'s a politician in the pulpit, and nothing more.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4616674" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4616674">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4616674" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4616674" class="dsq-comment-message">Warren returned 25 years of his salary to the church and 90% of his book sales also go back to the church.<br><br>He walks the talk.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4618443" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4618443" href="http://muzikalthoughts.blogspot.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Muzikal203</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4618443" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4618443" class="dsq-comment-message">Who said anything about money? It\'s all about POWER.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4598622" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4598622" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4598622">Josephine</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4598622" class="dsq-comment-message">Look,<br><br>In all fairness, whoever President ELECT Obama picked for the inaguation program was going to be a problem.  Why?  Because everyone in America can put input regarding their opinion into an insignificant issue such as a 2 minute prayer.  The true star of the day will be the President Elect who happens to be the only president in American history who has openly acknowledged himself to be BLACK and the only president in America history who received such a historical number of ELECTORAL votes.<br><br>The country has REAL issues: the economy, education, the wars, home foreclosure.  I personally do not care about the opinions of Rev. Warren or Rev. Wright.  Americans place too much emphasize on pastors who are in the BUSINESS  of ministry versus those who are in the MINISTRY of taking care of the people\'s business.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4599503" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4599503" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4599503">Lilytiger</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4599503" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4599503" class="dsq-comment-message">True, could you imagine what would be going on if he had a gay pastor give the prayer??<br><br><br>Yes, you can....LOL</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4597465" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4597465" href="http://politicalmusic.wordpress.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Political Pete</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4597465" class="dsq-comment-message">It\'s remarkable for me to see so many black bloggers hop on this issue.   I\'m not saying that there aren\'t legitimate black gay issues, because there are, but this is not one of them.<br><br>This is over scrutinized.  During the campaign, the left criticized him for not attacking, for being too moderate, for pandering to the right . . . he proved us all wrong by winning . . . let the man do his job.  Let him appoint folks and build unity the best way that he can b/c the country is hurting.  <br><br>Rick Warren is not over any policy, he is not in the administration - therefore I don\'t feel as if my lifestyle is in danger, he isn\'t proposing to federalize prop 8.  <br><br>If we really want to advance gay rights, it does not bode well by attacking the church, black voter, or Obama - quite the contrary - you will contribute to divisiveness and lose precisely the progress of this year and divide the left.  <br><br>Let\'s keep it real:  Rick Warren is a pastor that holds THE SAME VIEWS as about 95% of other Christian pastors in the country if we want to be intellectually honest.  <br><br>This is a non-issue and simply a symbolic gesture by Obama.  Warren is taking heat from the right wingers too.  We on the left need to understand that we don\'t have a monopoly on diversity, diversity is also ideology. . . which means it\'s not always left.  It doesn\'t mean if someone is conservative that they just don\'t get it.  It means that, yes, we have to have tolerance for what we deem intolerant.  Now OF COURSE, IF HE APPOINTED WARREN OVER SOME SORT OF POLICY, THIS IS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT STORY.<br><br>Let\'s move forward and stop worrying about issues like who is praying at the inauguration.  Our country is in great peril and we need unity now more than ever.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4632414" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4632414" href="http://politicalmusic.wordpress.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Political Pete</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4632414" class="dsq-comment-message">Someone raised a point on my blog that "my lifestyle isn\'t in danger because I am not gay."  All ultra conservative and ultra liberals over policy scares me.    (but if I had a choice, I would like the ultra liberal lol).<br><br>lol<br><br>There is good discussion going on here . . . I don\'t agree with the post, but there are a lot of great points discussed.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4597486" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4597486">GDAWG</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4597486" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4597486" class="dsq-comment-message">Perhaps the Gays can offer up Shirley Q. Liquor to give the invocation. And Town, you are sooo correct!</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4597757" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4597757">Monie</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4597757" class="dsq-comment-message">Billy Graham did the invocation at Bill Clinton\'s 1993 inauguration.<br><br>Now if you run over to Graham\'s site, his views don\'t differ that much from Rick Warren\'s...actually search "A Federal Marriage Amendment" and it pretty much sums up their postions.<br><br>Were there any protest at the inaugurations of Clinton in 1993 or 1996?....I don\'t recall any myself.<br><br>And yet under Clinton\'s presidency, policies like DADT and the Defense of Marriage Act (1996) were enacted.   <br><br>What I find ironic is that in the Gay Rights battleground state of California, HRC cruised to a primary victory over Obama.  Now I know Hillary is not her husband, but let\'s be honest, she ran off of his legacy and platform.  Was the LGBT community screaming to the top of their lungs earlier this year that another Clinton could not possibly preside ove this country again, especially after policies were enacted under Bill Clinton that harmed them......Because honestly I don\'t recall that outrage either.<br><br>I am not writing this as an excuse for the Warren decision...nor arguing for or against.<br>I am just wondering is a double standard being applied to Obama than it was for Obama or any other  Democratic leader.<br><br>BTW, those who are solidly against Warren and are highly disgusted with Obama....I am interested in knowing did you support and vote for Bill Clinton during his two terms....and if so, does that make you a hypocrite?</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4604221" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4604221">Justice58</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4604221" class="dsq-comment-message">Say it, Monie!</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4599111">NMP</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4599111" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4599111" class="dsq-comment-message">Billy Graham was caught ON TAPE talking to Richard Nixon making racist and anti-semitic statements, but that didn\'t prevent him from becoming "America\'s Preacher".  That\'s the damn double standard: that white presidents can associate with known racists and homophobes and you hear nothing but cricketts.  The same Clinton LGBT defenders like Hillary Rosen who stood by Clinton after \'Don\'t Ask Don\'t Tell\' and silent indifference to their community now want to "get in PEO\'s ass"?!  Please!  They can kiss his Black ass is what they can do!</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4598806" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4598806" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4598806">BlackAmericanPrincess</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4598806" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4598806" class="dsq-comment-message">See I KNEW I wasn\'t tripping, I was just having this conversation with my husband the other day!  I couldn\'t remember for sure if it was Billy Graham at Clinton\'s inauguration though, thanks for confirming my suspicions!<br><br>The New Negro Rule/Double-Standard is still in FULL M_THAF_CKIN AFFECT...</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4598811">Shazza</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4598811" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4598811" class="dsq-comment-message">Preach Monie!</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4597853" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4597853" href="http://politicalmusic.wordpress.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Political Pete</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4597853" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4597853" class="dsq-comment-message">Monie,<br>It\'s should be called subliminal racism.  Doesnt\' mean you are a racist, but you can do racist things without knowing them.  lol.  You raise a very valid point.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4597906" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4597906" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4597906">tgram</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4597906" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4597906" class="dsq-comment-message">I agree with MK\'s post below...get your story straight...Wright described Obama as a "politican" and said Obama will do what a politician has to do.  That\'s not right.  Obama is also a human being and he has a moral/ethical compass. We have to believe that most of Obama\'s actions are demonstrative of his ideas and his character, and not political shenanigans.<br><br>The other things is your statement "And in case y’all forgot, I also said I would be the first to get in Obama’s ass when I see something like this."  This is uncalled for.  Obama has stated that there will be times when we disagree with him and for some this may be it, but we need to be patient and learn to pick our fights.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4604194" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4604194">Justice58</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4604194" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4604194" class="dsq-comment-message">Co-Sign!</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4598163" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4598163" href="http://www.youtube.com/peterwilkins19" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">John</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4598163" class="dsq-comment-message">Co-sign<br><br>"I would be the first to get in Obama\'s ass."  lol.  Please . . . Who are you?  lol )Not trying to be super offensive, but this is amazing... <br><br>Please "get in Obama\'s ass" about something that\'s worth the fight.  I agree with Politicalmusic, the other black civil rights pastor is not for gay marriage either, no one is saying anything about him.  If you want to rock the Obama is my president shirts, if you want to claim this year, we all know its going to be very difficult for our brother . . . don\'t be so quick and disloyal to jump ship over bull-ish . . . this is a calculated move on Obama\'s part.   You all know that WE are scrutinized twice as hard and have to work 2 times harder - this is no different for the POTUS.<br><br><br> Just like black people couldn\'t get Obama elected without broad white support, we surely will need some anti-gay support to move the country forward with a more progressive agenda.<br><br>I MEAN JUST TWO YEAR AGO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POLITICAL SUICIDE TO SAY GAY FOLKS DESERVE EQUAL RIGHTS, HOSPITAL TREATMENT, ETC.  There HAS been progress.  <br><br>And if you want to bar everyone who things homosexuality is a sin, then you have depleted about 99% despite what are progressive circles may believe.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4596345">Town</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4596345" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4596345" class="dsq-comment-message">Sure there is.  White America is much more likely to forgive Rick Warren for being against the gays than to forgive Jeremiah Wright for being against "whitey."<br><br>Obama knows this.  If he wants to come to white America\'s party he has to dance to white America\'s tune.<br><br>So, I wouldn\'t expect Obama to throw Rick Warren under the bus.  Obama\'s only going to throw Warren under the bus if enough white Americans get upset about it and right now the only people upset about it are gays and those who are gay friendly.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4598347">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4598347" class="dsq-comment-message">hehehehe....that\'s why the gay folk say Gay is the new black...they get black folk treatment and they feel they not suppose to cause they is Whiiiiiiiiiite!!!</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4605063">Squarepeg</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4605063" class="dsq-comment-message">EXACTLY! Cuz at the end of the day...they\'re still WHITE. And how dare that n***do us like that? He must have forgotten that we MADE HIM...he\'d better learn his place...(how much you wanna bet that\'s how a lot of white gay people feel right now)</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4612998" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4612998" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4612998">lennyhate</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4612998" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4612998" class="dsq-comment-message">you people do realize that there are gay black people, right?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4614577" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4614577" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4614577">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4614577" class="dsq-comment-message">Yes, but you all are not in the forefront of the gay movement, and you don\'t have a seat at the table on gay activist issues either.<br><br>You are as invisible within the gay community as you are as a black person in the larger community.<br><br>So you get doubly ignored...just like women who are black don\'t count to the feminist.  We get doubly ignored too.<br><br>White ENTITLED feminist don\'t want to deal with the complexity of our blackness and white ENTITLED gays don\'t want to deal with the complexity of your blackness when it comes to the gay political agenda EITHER. You are invisible to their political goals. The whiteentitlement they have from the larger society made them determine long ago that if they dared touch the blackness issue they would never achieve their goals so they blow you off and ignore you!!  INTENTIONALLY, DELIBERATELY, WILLFULLY with FORETHOUGHT and inDEED malice.<br><br>In short, you don\'t count, not your beliefs, not your opinions and for damn sure not your BLACK struggle.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4615845" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4615845">lennyhate</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4615845" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4615845" class="dsq-comment-message">...and you subscribe to that notion:  that i\'m invisible, and i don\'t count?</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4615913" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4615913">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4615913" class="dsq-comment-message">NO.  <br><br>It is a fact of black life, that the larger society finds us invisible.<br><br>My point is that I believe as a black woman that gays who are black are faced with the same choice. We as women learned we were not valued by feminist and they did not truly care about how our lives had greater complexity.  Which meant there was no since in touting their agenda as it was not worth the time or effort, when we were still going to be BLACK.<br><br>At the end of the day, race trumped gender. I think that black gays have not reached that point yet.<br><br>Which is to say when they talk about the feminist movement I disengage. Maybe, at some point black homosexuals will realize that as well. Because there is a lot of racism in the gay community just as their is in the society at large.  Being black and gay is not important to the gay political agenda.<br><br>To me you are a black person and gay is something you do..but being black is who you are.<br><br>Blacks are never invisible to other blacks. No matter what their choices are. The black community embraces all. Always has.<br><br>Merry Christmas Lennyhate!!<br><br>I wish you a blessed and wonderful Christmas.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4616441" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4616441" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4616441">lennyhate</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4616441" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'m not sure that i understand.  I should reject the gay movement, because the wider community considers me invisible?  while there are definitely issues that need to be resolved in the gay community, the fight for gay rights directly affects me, and therefore, i should participate.  I would never reject my african-american community--as if i could--due to it\'s homophobia (a fact of which you seem to gloss over).  <br><br>i call attention to the fact of gay blacks, because it seems as if their existence is invisible to many commenters on this site.  i\'m a black gay male, and obama\'s pick of rick warren was disturbing.  <br><br>and a happy holidays to you, whiterosebuddy.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4616575" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4616575">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4616575" class="dsq-comment-message">NO, it is not the wider community but the gay community that considers black gays invisible. That type of stature requires choices. White feminists ignore the challenges of black females a good majority  of us ignore the feminists.<br><br>While the fight for feminists rights can impact my life. It does not impact my life as much as race which is ignored as part of the feminist movement. Ergo, I ignore the feminist movement. Knowing full well that whatever is granted to the white entitled female will be of benefit to me whether I invest my energy or not.<br><br>White entitlement makes me sit on the sidelines and not engage white feminists.<br><br>I focus my energy on causes that impact the black community as that has far greater impact on my life and brings far more significant change.<br><br>Warren is not disturbing to me because of all that he has done for the poor and AIDS. Warren and Obama have far more in common than not. More importantly what they have in common will uplift the poor and middle class. So, I will focus on that recognizing that Obama is coopting leadership from a very powerful group to use with his own Presidential power to create a better nation.<br><br>Obama opposes gay marriage just like Warren but Obama also supports a full repeal of DOMA and he supports civil unions and since he is the President.<br><br>I feel confident about his choices.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4619018">lennyhate</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4619018" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4619018" class="dsq-comment-message">sorry, for some reason my posts jumped to the top of the page.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4596644" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4596644" href="http://www.WEESeeYou.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Webb</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4596644" class="dsq-comment-message">It\'s looking like this invocation is about to spoil the whole f**king inauguration for some people.  I guess a whole bunch of us who intended to go to the ceremony will be staying home now.<br><br>I respect people\'s right to protest.  As a matter of fact, those of you who will be on the Mall, why don\'t u just turn your backs toward the podium when Warren speaks and just be happy :-) Barney Frank and Rachel Maddow can take a bathroom break during the invocation.<br><br>I regret that there\'s so much negative energy (although rightfully) being generated as we lead up to one of the most historic events in this country\'s history.  Want to blame it on Barack?  Cool, do that--but can we please not let this detract from the main event?<br><br><i> Some folks go to church to hear the singing.  Others go to church to hear the preaching.  But we must never forget that there is only one "Star" of this show and the main attraction is Jesus Christ.  Jesus Christ is the Superstar! </i><br><br>-Webb\'s Pastor</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4604082" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4604082">Admiral_Komack</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4604082" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4604082" class="dsq-comment-message">"It\'s looking like this invocation is about to spoil the whole f**king inauguration for some people."<br><br>-I am looking forward to seeing Barack Hussein Obama being sworn in as the 44th President of the United States of America.<br><br>Fuck Rick Warren.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4598898" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4598898">Aron</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4598898" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4598898" class="dsq-comment-message">The "negative energy" is not being raised rightfully though. Christian ministers are called to preach the word of God without compromise. I haven\'t yet read teachings in the bible that are at all ambiguous about sexuality. So, Rick Warren or any other preacher is not supposed to avoid the issue simply because it\'s controversial. The stand he takes is actually a mainline Christian view. They are also supposed to be careful not to lead others into activity which will bring about judgment for them. So, be mindful that when a pastor takes a hardline view, especially one that doesn\'t win him favor, he might just be doing it because he\'s been convicted by God to take the position and further he might just be doing it because he cares more about peoples\' salvation than whether they like him.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4602729" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4602729">Justice58</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4602729" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4602729" class="dsq-comment-message">AMEN!  Say That!</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4596835" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4596835" href="http://www.WEESeeYou.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Webb</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4596835" class="dsq-comment-message">Speaking of Barney Frank, if he is so disturbed and hurt, then I think that he should skip the inauguration in protest...then forward me his gallery-seat tickets.<br><br>Rick Warren will not be stealing <b>my joy</b> come January 20th, 12 Noon!<br><i><br>Joy, Joy! G_d\'s Great Joy!<br>Joy, Joy, down in my soul!<br>Sweet, beautiful, soul saving joy,<br>Oh, joy, joy, in my soul!<br></i></div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4599399" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4599399">NMP</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4599399" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4599399" class="dsq-comment-message">I can\'t be the only one who thnks it\'s laughable that someone who engaged in sex with under age boys and refuses to condemn the National Association of Man Boy Love, headquartered in MA, whose mission is to make sex with little boys legal, would question PEO\'s moral compass.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4598326" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4598326">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4598326" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4598326" class="dsq-comment-message">I KNOW THAT\'s right!!<br><br>I will be in the rapture zone and no one will STEAL my JOY <br><br>Either!!</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4605040" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4605040" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4605040">Squarepeg</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4605040" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4605040" class="dsq-comment-message">"It\'s looking like this invocation is about to spoil the whole f**king inauguration for some people. I guess a whole bunch of us who intended to go to the ceremony will be staying home now."<br><br>I\'ll be damned if I let that fat s.o.b. ruin this inauguration for me! Oh no, I don\'t think so. NOTHING and NO ONE will ruin this for me. Those who ARE letting him ruin it for them..well that\'s their choice, and make no mistake people it is a choice! Your sexuality is not a choice....how you react to a preacher giving a two minute invocation...IS a choice.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4596775">Miranda</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4596775" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4596775" class="dsq-comment-message">The question I ask myself is "did the end justify the means?"...and for me personally, its a resounding "Yes". We don\'t need martyrs right now IMO, we need a politician that can effectively turn this economy around. PEO did what he had to do to get where he had to get. I\'ve done that before and no doubt will apply that principle again.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4596842">Miranda</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4596842" class="dsq-comment-message">Just saw this on the AJC:<br><br>Rick Warren to be main speaker at Ebenezer on King Day<br><br><a href="http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/atlanta/stories/2008/12/23/rick_warren_king_day.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab" rel="nofollow">http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/atlanta/...</a></div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4597529" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4597529" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4597529" href="http://politicalmusic.wordpress.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Political Pete</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4597529" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4597529" class="dsq-comment-message">Oh my God!  Ring the alarm... if black folk and conservative white folks start to unify... danger!  This can\'t happen! Nooooooooooooo  lol</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4598301" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4598301">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4598301" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4598301" class="dsq-comment-message">O how I have wished for this DAY!!<br><br>BAM!!<br><br>Hallelujiah!!</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4596930" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4596930" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4596930">Justice58</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4596930" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4596930" class="dsq-comment-message">We have a Democracy!  The gay marriage issue was put on the ballot and the voters said<b> No! </b>The voters also said <b>No</b> to John McCain. <br><br>The LGBT Community thought they could <b>use</b> the high turnout of black voters to get what they wanted and it didn\'t happen. They gambled and lost!</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4597427" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4597427">chenna</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4597427" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4597427" class="dsq-comment-message">this really makes no sense.  there is so much hype about Black people being the most homophobic group in the nation, so not sure how banking on high Black voter turnout would be encouraging to those who were against Prop 8.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4599303" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4599303" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4599303">NMP</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4599303" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4599303" class="dsq-comment-message">The point he is making is that the VAST majority of Americans concur with Rick Warren, Obama, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, John Edwards, the Pope (the list is limitless) who do NOT support gay marriage.  It has been put on the ballot in 30 states, and it\'s 30 and 0.  <br><br>I support gay marriage, but my views and apparently yours are not in the mainstream, and it\'s certainly not going to gain any traction with these antics: targeting one preacher, the most popular preacher in the country, is by extension targeting the vast majority of Americans who concur and will now only view him more sympathetically.   And do white Liberals and the LGBT community will want to take on the African American community?  Is thar really a battle they want to lose--AGAIN?!<br><br>P.S.:  Speaking of the Pope.  I\'m still waiting for white Liberals (and their negro spokespeople) to attack his comments from yesterday comparing homosexuality to global warming and delcaring it an assault on our humanity.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4599379" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4599379">Town</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4599379" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4599379" class="dsq-comment-message">You\'ll be waiting for a REAL long time.....</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4597260" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4597260">chenna</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4597260" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4597260" class="dsq-comment-message">You said it exactly CPL!  Which is why I don\'t understand how Black folks can be so blind here & treat this as a gay issue telling people to STFU.  Nope it\'s about principle.  The same PE who all of the sudden woke up & decided he could not attend the church he had attended for 20 yrs over messages that were not even divisive, now invites a man who really is divisive to give the invocation.  I\'m sorry but Black folks need to wake up.  It\'s larger than gay rights.  Not to mention there are lots of other views Mr. Warren has that make him inappropriate to give the invocation.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4597479" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4597479">Town</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4597479" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4597479" class="dsq-comment-message">The same way gay activists are telling black folks to STFU?<br><br>The same way gay activists are blaming black people for their lack of rights when it has always been straight white people putting these initiatives on the ballot?</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4602000">carolinagirl</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4602000" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4602000" class="dsq-comment-message">"The same way gay activists are blaming black people for their lack of rights when it has always been straight white people putting these initiatives on the ballot?"<br><br>Uh-uh, Town. You can\'t say that. It makes too much sense.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4602409">rikyrah</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4602409" class="dsq-comment-message">now Town, why you talking too much like right.<br><br><br>LOL</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4597426">malletgirl02</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4597426" class="dsq-comment-message">Regrading Cohen\'s comment, why does Obama have to be a moral leader in the first place? Also what was is position during the whole Wright episode?</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4598208">Admiral_Komack</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4598208" class="dsq-comment-message">"Regrading Cohen\'s comment, why does Obama have to be a moral leader in the first place?"<br><br>-So that he (Cohen) can "build" Obama up, only to tear him down later.<br><br>I\'d be interested to know Cohen\'s position durirg the whole Wright episode myself.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4599200">NMP</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4599200" class="dsq-comment-message">Cohen never attempted to build Obama up; he\'s been attempting to tear him down since he announced his candidacy.  He accused him of effectively turning a blind eye to Farrakhan\'s alleged anti-semitism b/c Trinity honored Farrkhan and somehow it was Obama\'s duty to rebuke the church.  He also made an ass of himself on Morning Joe after Obama did the \'brush your shoulder off\' move at a rally.  He thought it was a display of arrogance and dismissiveness of Hillary Clinton.  Callers blew MSNBC\'s phones up explaining to the old white man that it was Hip Hop lingo.</div>\
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	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4598532" href="http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Big Man</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4598532" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'m going to have  a response to this up tomorrow if you want to check it out CPL. I\'ve got some issues with some of your points.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4622252">Admiral_Komack</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4622252" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'ve read your response...twice...and I agree with it.<br>Thank you.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4598628" class="dsq-comment-header">\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4598628">islandgirl550</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4598628" class="dsq-comment-message">I don\'t like Rick Warren and I was thinking about this the other day: Rarely are people prejudiced and racist about one thing. Rick Warren hates gays and I\'m sure a lot of other groups as well.<br><br>I was also wondering when someone would connect the dots regarding Rev. Wright. (Drop the double standard banner here.) Seems as though one can be forgiven when bashing gays but when someone speaks the truth about racism and poverty in this country they immediately get labeled racist and out of touch.<br><br>Just like Bush & Cheney... Rick Warren gets the GASSS FACE!</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4599128" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4599128" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4599128">tgram</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4599128" class="dsq-comment-message">I\'m not defending Warrend but actually he said that he loves gays but he hates what they do. <a href="http://www.ktla.com/landing_topstories/?blockID=167915&feedID=1198" rel="nofollow">http://www.ktla.com/landing_topstories/?blockID...</a><br>I don\'t know how he intends to clean up all the other stuff that he said.  <br><br>In any case, I understand that the Warren pick has made a lot of people upset with Obama and many of us hear you on this but I just feel that all the vocal frustration is not worth it (unless you heard that Warren intends to bash gays in the invocation…I haven’t heard that).  <br><br>Could we put our energy to better use to educate people about issues instead of getting worked up and lashing out?  <br><br>Donna Brazile told the Sunday morning round-table forum at ABC that after Aretha Franklin sings she would’ve forgotten all about Warren and …whatever he said in the invocation.  I second that…I’m looking forward to hearing Aretha sing, too.  Let\'s not forget that January 20 is all about America...God Bless America!!!</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4598665">Kat</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4598665" class="dsq-comment-message">After all of this crap, Rick Warren better say the best prayer I\'ve ever heard. I expect my television to levitate. I want to see people speaking in tongues. Jesus Christ himself better make an appearance, or I\'ll be very disappointed.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4599454">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4599454" class="dsq-comment-message"><a href="mailto:CTFU!!!!!!.@..visual" rel="nofollow">CTFU!!!!!!.@..visual</a> image of  your TV levitating in your home,  <br><br>while you try to watch folks on the mall  speaking in tongues<br><br> and JC himself appears!!!<br><br>ROTFLMAO!!!<br><br><br>lord you have me in tears...side aching</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4599801">islandgirl550</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4599801" class="dsq-comment-message">If Jesus does not appear while Rick Warren in speaking I will be VERY disappointed!!!!</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4614896" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4614896">Roger</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4614896" class="dsq-comment-message">You got that right!  At this point, I want people to calm the fuck down and get a grip.  Nearly ever blog I\'ve been to that, up to the election, seemed to be written by level-headed people has devolved into the kind of reactionary, childish handwringing the likes of which I haven\'t seen since I didn\'t get that Battlestar Galactica Colonial Viper...when I was seven years old.  <br><br>For the record, I think Warren is a fatuous gasbag who\'s been given far more importance than he deserves or warrants.  But then, I think that about nearly EVERY preacher--especially if he has a megagoogogoloplexchurch.  However, I see (or think I see) the strategy that Obama\'s employing here--keep your friends close, but keep the enemies closer. Of course, I could be wrong here.  At any rate, Obama\'s not appointing the fool to a Cabinet level position, so Warren\'s invocation to the imaginary sky friend doesn\'t faze me one fucking way or the other.  Hell, Paris Hilton could do it, and I wouldn\'t give a damn.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4599229">rikyrah</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4599229" class="dsq-comment-message">Warren\'s WHITE<br><br>Wright is BLACK<br><br>CPL, you DO know it\'s this simple, don\'t you? <br><br>Cause a whole lot of them WHITE Holy Rollers said more #($* about America than Wright EVER DID....and unlike Wright...WEREN\'T BEING TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4599235">rikyrah</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4599235" class="dsq-comment-message">EVENING THREAD IS UP</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4601156" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4601156" href="http://www.actsoffaithblog.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Acts Of Faith Blog</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4601156" class="dsq-comment-message">CPL - I knew you authored  this post! And thank you. I know some people will get the vapors over this but it needs to be said. I know that Obama got more votes from white Evangelicals than white gays so I see he is pandering to some of those who voted for him. I say some because I don\'t see him bending over backwards (and suffering a public outcry) over helping with "Black people\'s issues". I\'ll put it in quotes because a lot of things that would benefit the Black community (working class/middle class) would help everyone, but there is a particular need that hasn\'t been addressed really since Nixon was in office of all Presidents. He used the term Black capitalism and didn\'t put up roadblocks to Black ownership of radio and newspapers. Then he got the boot and along came Reagan with his welfare queen triangulation to get white voters. Even Clinton for all the rah rahs he got didn\'t do that much policy wise. So I am certain Obama won\'t be as neglectful as either Bush, but he may only do slightly better than Clinton in the end. I\'m not expecting some grand gesture - perhaps half-way into his 2nd term if he gets there.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4601997" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4601997" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4601997">hal</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4601997" class="dsq-comment-message">The funny thing about this issue is it seems to be discussed more on blogs than anywhere. I keep checking The New York times to see if it makes major waves, and it\'s barely denting as a story. Opinion pieces, sure, but if anything, Cohen\'s piece illustrates a lot of what is going on here:<br><br>People who never liked, or wanted Obama, and were probably afraid they would never get a chance to dog him again, are jumping up and down to tackle him. It\'s just the primary\'s all over again. They must be thrilled.<br><br>When DADT, and DOMA are gone, and when the Matthew Shepard act is passed, what are people on the left going to bitch about then?</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4602267" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4602267">pinksun</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4602267" class="dsq-comment-message">I agree 95% of the people I know don\'t even know that this is an issue. And those that have heard about it don\'t even get what the big fuss is about. Most folk I know are hoping that they will still have a job and or a roof over their head on January 20th. That\'s real, this other stuff is just hot air and wasted conversation .</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4611931">Lilytiger</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4611931" class="dsq-comment-message">They are jumping up and down. This validates their theories that Obama is as bad a Bush.<br><br>What a load of crap.<br><br>Keep enrolling the young and minority peoples of this country and we can watch them in our rear view mirror.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4604381">mjohnso27</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4604381" class="dsq-comment-message">Edited.  (See comment below.)</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4613988">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4613988" class="dsq-comment-message">Heartsandflowers writes:<br>You and your ilk are also taking it personally otherwise why would you keep telling everyone YOUR OPINIONS about your beliefs and whining about the moderators and not being able to disagree and MOVE on? Everyone does not share your interpretations. Are you now going to start telling people unless they believe what you interpret they are not following you God and that\'s the \'right\' God? When poison is introduced you have to cut it off at th head. As I have pointed out numerous times and what you and yours REFUSE to address are the REAL issues destroying the Black community. You just want to be allowed to spread your dissent without being challenged. We all have the right to express ourselves so don\'t try to censor me either. I will continue to challenge the discourse and point out the animus and racism that comes from whites as well as blacks. Maybe if you weren\'t so busy throwing stones you\'d be humble enough to learn something. I\'m very critical of the gay rights industrial complex and white gays on my blog but I will not be silent when I come here and have to scroll through this nonsense. I will not be silent about the hyprocrisy of those who may look like me. If you really cared about others you\'d be doing something abou THAT. But I don\'t expect any of you to actual do anything the bible says when you get so much joy tearing others down instead of building them up. That\'s a real ally. You are no ally. You are like the Pharasees who talked a lot about following God, judged people and picking salient things to focus but wouldn\'t listen to Jesus. But feel free to keep arguing and quoting. Because that\'s so much more important than living by example.<br>------------------<br><br>My ilk?  NO heartsandflowers I am not taking anything personally.  I tell my opinions becasuse this is a discussion board. Why do you tell yours?  I have not whined about any moderators are you mistaking me with another poster?  I move on and agree to disagree when that is warranted. <br><br>Heartsandflowers, I certainly do not expect people to agree with THE interpretations posted and when they don\'t I expect them to address THE interpretations and not attack posters as you are doing. For whatever reason you are taking this personally and it is not directed at you. The topic is being discussed and debated. Your thoughts are as welcome as anyone elses\' but what is unproductive is seemingly a need on your part to put folks in their place about their opinions you do not share.  Why is that?<br><br>Why are you getting your shorts in a knot. Like you said no one has the same interpretaiton so why is it not good enough for you to simply state yours and accept that it TOO is not the only intrepretation. Why are you attacking people? If people all have the same interpretation there would be no debate...everyone would just simply agree.<br><br>I have not once said what anyone should do or believe. That is a personal choice between the individual and god.  However, when religion is the topic and specifically Christianity the tenets of that religion are clear. You do not have to believe it, lots of folks don\'t.  But when talking about the TOPIC of RELIGION you are taking it as if someone is telling YOU what to do when they are NOT!!  Stating the precepts of a religion does not confer any moral superiority..that is all on you for thinking that. The bible though with regard to the christian faith is clear that homosexuality is a sin. That is what the bible says. You do not have to believe it. You do not have to adhere to it. But what you can\'t say is that someone is imposing their belief system on you by simply STATING what the christian faith says.<br><br>When a topic is debated it is not tearing down or building anyone up. It is simply stating the principles, concepts and philosophy of that religion or whatever the facts are on the topic at hand. It is not personal.<br><br>So, please don\'t take offense or beleive anyone is telling you how to live your life or thinking they are morally superior cause I do not and I suspect others don\'t either. As Justice noted...it is a DEBATE!!  <br><br>I am not refusing to acknowledge any of the real issues confronting the black community. What I am doing is focusing on the issues and topics that CPL raised when she made her intial post.  If you want to go on a different tangent and discuss an entirely different aspect, that\'s fine. Just don\'t accuse anyone of ignoring it because they chose to stay focused on the topic of the thread, which was Rick Warren, religion and homosexuality.<br><br>As far as the Pharissees remark. I will reiterate. I am not the topic of the thread. I am not judging anyone one. And I will not engage & bicker with you  because I learned in middle school:<br><br>Small minds talk about people.<br>Average minds talk about events, and.<br>Great minds talk about ideas.<br><br>A debate is about ideas, not the messenger.<br><br><br>Merry Christmas Heartsandflowers...I hope that the seasons brings you many blessings and that your heart is filled with the joy and beauty of its reason.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4614518">Justice58</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4614518" class="dsq-comment-message">Piggybacking off of that...Heartsand flowers.... I am <b>not</b> trying to box the Moderators in a corner! Are you kidding me? I made that statement about the Moderators because You, Heartsand flowers, accused me of hi-jacking a thread. Don\'t make this thread about me. It\'s a debate!  My discussion was within the Topic. My discussion is not directed at you or anyone else personally. No one is trying to force anything upon anyone. God is a respectful God. He has given man a free will to choose. <br><br>Furthermore, you  stated : <i> "But I don\'t expect any of you to actual do anything the bible says when you get so much joy tearing others down instead of building them up."</i><br><br>You don\'t know me so don\'t act like you do!  You don\'t know anything about my life, so just stop. This is not about Justice58\'s life!  Stop making this thread about me!<br><br>I mentioned the Moderator CPL simply because she is author of the article!<br><br>But just so you know.~ I happen to like CPL. She can be a riot sometimes. I think she writes great articles. I may not agree with all of her point of view but she isn\'t disrespectful of other people\'s views & beliefs.  You...Not so much!<br>I remember you from months ago at Field Negro Blog. You were disrespectful there so it does not surprise me that you\'d be disrespectful here!<br><br>Toodles!</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4615089" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4615089" href="http://deoclicianocgiportfolio.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">ochyming</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4615089" class="dsq-comment-message">Why aiming at this pastor and ignore the Pope loudly voicing same stupid things?<br><br>About Obama...<br><br>From someone who cam surround himself with detractors...</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4618675">lennyhate</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4618675" class="dsq-comment-message">I find Rick Warren a disturbing pick because he believes me to be no better than a pedophile, and he believes my relationships to be no better than those of an incestuous nature.  It\'s hard not to take comments like that personal, and i take umbrage at the notion that i cannot express anger over his views.  I also don\'t agree with Pastor Warren\'s divisive views on abortion, social gospel protestants, assassination, and whether Jews will be condemned to hell.  <br><br>My supporting the President-Elect, despite his position on gay marriage, is the definition of disagreeing without being disagreeable.  That said, President-Elect Obama is not above reproach.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4619016" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4619016">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4619016" class="dsq-comment-message">I understand.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4619005" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4619005">lennyhate</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4619005" class="dsq-comment-message">there\'s cold comfort in the fact that the reasoning behind my not being able to serve in the military or get married is due to my homosexuality and not my blackness.  i find issue with Warren\'s comparison of women who receive abortions to nazi\'s; his comparison of pro-choicers to holocaust deniers; his call for the assassination of the president of iran; his belief that jews wills go to hell; his belief that women should submit to men;  his comparison of homosexuality to pedophilia and incest.  Why shouldn\'t I be angry at his being picked to give the convocation?<br><br>My supporting Obama, despite his views on gay marriage, is the definition of disagreeing without being disagreeable.  That said, the president-elect is not above reproach.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4624183">Justice58</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4624183" class="dsq-comment-message">Heartsand flowers,<br><br>Do you not understand the definition of debate? What is so hard to understand....<b>"Drop those links. Engage in debate. Give us trivia and gossip too".</b><br><br>Debate: a discussion, as of a public question in an assembly, involving opposing viewpoints! Duh!<br><br>You don\'t have to respond to my posts, you can ignore them and keep it moving.  You\'ve accused WRB & I of trying to silence you....nice try tho..but you\'re the one that is guilty of that. I\'m on to you.  I am debating & discussing whatever issue is presented on each particular thread.  If you can\'t handle debate...then don\'t engage!<br><br>For the record...I wouldn\'t waste my energy crawling your profile! You really have some  serious issues!</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4627402">lilschs</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4627402" class="dsq-comment-message">WRB & I  should be &me unless you would say "you\'ve accused I.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4628228">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4628228" class="dsq-comment-message">huh?</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4626390" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4626390" href="http://theurbanista2.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Rhondacoca</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4626390" class="dsq-comment-message">Thank You!<br><br>I was saying this from last week, last week....it is te reason why I am mad in the first place.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4626620" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4626620" href="http://theurbanista2.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Rhondacoca</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4626620" class="dsq-comment-message">I am posting tis again because someone needs to answer me straight:<br><br>Somebody needs to tell me what Jeremiah Wright said at the NPC that was offensive!!!<br><br>Somebody do it because nobody has done it yet which makes those who say it worse than those who call him a racist and cannot back him up.<br><br>What got people upset was his defiant demeanor....thats it because he said nothing different than he did in the Moyers interview in regards to Obama being a politican.<br><br>Mabye he wanted to be thrown under the bus. I think Glen Ford said it best, he drew a line in the sand. Obama likes to have his cake and eat it too and Wright was saying not with me. He refused to play politics....I am happy because I am tired of everyone playing politics. I do not play politics either. I was removed from the Obama campaign office when the whole thing started in March because I dared stand up for the man. All the white people were saying that Obama was going to teach black people that race is no longer an issue. Again, my ass!<br><br>As for the "More Perfect Union Speech" any speech on race that makes white people comfy is not a real speech on race.<br><br>He basically framed Wright as backwards and stuck in the past. Please, my ass. That was offensive. That is the only reason why white people were okay with it. He also justified white resentment which is really white racism because resentment is reactionary. <br><br>Black people, be stupid and jump on the bandwagon but don\'t be mad when you get pushed off next!<br><br>I also am shocked that people failed to hear or even understand the actual speech he made at that event. It was a great speech about the black church, social gospel, change and transformation. I honestly think that it either went over people\'s heads or people were not home to see it and saw what the media wanted to show the massed because if people actually knew what he was talking about, they may have become to enlightened. <br><br>Whatever. We have a long history of throwing our leaders under the bus when whites denounce them. The same thing happened to MLK at te end of his life. People have selective memory but I do not give a damn,</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4627123" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4627123" href="http://thisblksistaspage.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">blksista</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4627123" class="dsq-comment-message">One of Hillary Clinton\'s minions--<a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5732357" rel="nofollow">Barbara Reynolds</a>--brought him over there, and it is generally thought that under the guise of getting him to speak about the demonization of the black church, she got him to talk <u>too damn much.</u>  The link above has another link to an article in the New York Daily News that explains her complicity in that mess.<br><br>You cannot tell me that as a HIllary supporter, Reynolds would agree with <i>all</i> that Wright said.<br><br>Wright was already tired after the round of interviews on Bill Moyers\' show and elsewhere.  But when he started talking really rad, and of having the Fruit of Islam squiring him around, that was it.  The media had more than a few minutes of time to try to sink Obama.  Plus, I heard he was paid for this appearance, although not by the NPC.   You would think the old man would see how he was going to be used.  It was like he didn\'t give a shyt anymore and was flipping the bird at Obama.  It was a stupid move, but I can well understand the tit for tat going on.  That\'s when Obama got permission, from this appearance, to cut him off completely.<br><br>This is not to say that Obama\'s hands are clean either, as evidenced by his muzzling the minister earlier.<br><br>Don\'t get me wrong.  I liked some of what Wright had to say, not all.  I saw the Moyers interview, and I thought that he had acquitted himself well.  But when I saw the soundbites from the NPC speech, I was appalled.  I knew Obama had been given permission to cut him off completely as a costly liability, something that I don\'t think he really wanted to do.<br><br>In some ways, this is another reason why Jesse Jackson could not be asked to be part of the Inaugural.  Not for being the first black male Democrat to run for the White House.  Not for saying stuff at the right time, but <i>for saying stuff at the wrong time</i> (and doing stuff at the wrong time), and most recently, for being overheard saying he wanted to cut Obama\'s nuts off.<br><br>In other words, I agree: Wright dug his own grave in not being invited.  If he had kept counsel after Obama\'s speech, he would be there, not Warren.  I believe that.  Wright also ministered to black gays and lesbians in the UCC, a church that is gay-friendly.  There wouldn\'t be half the upset right now if this integral relationship had endured.</div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4628216">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4628216" class="dsq-comment-message">Rhon,<br>With all due respect, your thinking and perceptions about Wright are far outside mainstream.<br><br> As for what Wright said at the NPC, it was not what he said , it was how he said it. Wright is stuck in another era when it comes to race relations. While I can empathize with that and understand how his times shaped him, we have to move forward and working from Wright\'s paradigm on race relations is not progressive.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4626759" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4626759" href="http://theurbanista2.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Rhondacoca</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4626759" class="dsq-comment-message">also for those people who have selective memory, obama distanced himself from wrightfrom last year when he dis-invited him from his opening ceremony when he announced this candidacy. He was scared he may cause controversy. <br><br>Wright had a no interview policy for over a year.<br><br>When he was publicly demonized, he came out over a month later to introduce himself and his ideology to the public which was obviously not well accepted. The only mistake he made was even bothering to talk to an ignorant American media and public who is addicted to propaganda and oversimplification.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4626994" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4626994" href="http://thisblksistaspage.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">blksista</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4626994" class="dsq-comment-message">....co-sign, girl.</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4604231" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4604231" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4604231">Mitch</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4604231" class="dsq-comment-message">As an African American gay male, I am truly appalled at most of these comments from so-called educated folks.  It just shows the ignorance that still exists within all communities.  Obama made a bad choice with Rick Warren.   As one blogger stated, when someone has an issue with one group you can best believe he has an issue with another group.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4613754" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4613754">whiterosebuddy</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4613754" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4613754" class="dsq-comment-message">I am appalled that you think Rick Warren is a poor choice.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4598167" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4598167">alicia2008</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4598167" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4598167" class="dsq-comment-message">i adore rev. wright<br>and i have yet to read a single word he has said that is a lie<br>in fact<br>he warned us gays that obama was merely a callous and ruthless politico<br>no more<br>no less<br><br>this horrid choice of warren is indefensible and proof of that hard fact!!!<br><br>this is proof that gaybashing trumps racism<br><br>what rev w. said offended whites<br>so he was silenced<br><br>but warren is a rabid vulgar gaybashing<br>and unlike taboo racism, gaybashing is patriotic sport<br>so even obama is only pumping up warren\'s homohating volume!!!!<br><br>shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br>see more at<br>OUTLOOK<br><a href="http://aliciabanks.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://aliciabanks.blogspot.com</a></div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4598412" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4598412" href="http://www.WEESeeYou.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Webb</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4598412" class="dsq-comment-message">Hey Alicia,<br><br>Don\'t fault Barack for Rick Warren speaking at Ebenezer on MLK Day.  Bernice King (MLK\'s Daughter) probably invited him since she too is so offended by gay marriage.  <br><br>As a matter of fact, Bernice King and Eddie Long(New Birth) were so "afraid" of gay marriage, that they led a march in downtown Atlanta about the subject and...dayum near proclaimed that they were voting for George W. Bush because of it...(imho, selling(sold) their souls to Satan himself).<br><br>That\'s partly why when I see people on JJP lolly-gagging about Caroline Kennedy, I only have to think about Bernice King and MLK III.  If you follow the logic of political dynasties and "royal bloodlines," then half the people on JJP should be offended that MLKIII won\'t be taking the oath on Jan 20th.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4598804" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4598804">Shazza</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4598804" class="dsq-comment-message">Alicia was a STAUNCH Hillary supporter-felt that she was the ONLY one that could lead this nation.  I remember seeing her on Clay Cane\'s blog in attack mode on Obama ALL THE TIME. Not shocked she\'d jump on this to attack him again.</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4599443" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <a id="dsq-author-user-4599443" href="http://www.WEESeeYou.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Webb</a>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4599443" class="dsq-comment-message"><b>Alicia was a STAUNCH Hillary supporter</b><br><br>Oh my bad.  Thanks Shazza.  I\'m gonna have to check out Clay Cane.  I just recently got hip to the <a href="http://www.field-negro.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Field Negro</a>.  So, i\'m playing catch up.<br><br>As for Alicia, I\'ll leave you with these immortal words from that New Jack Singer Al B. Sure:<br><i><br>Better Get Off On Your Own (Girl)<br>You Better Get Off On Your Own<br>All Alone Girl, Alone Girl<br>Girl, girl, girl.<br></i></div>\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4604125">Justice58</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4604125" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4604125" class="dsq-comment-message">Major Eye Roll!</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4601954" class="dsq-comment-header">\
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	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4601954">carolinagirl</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4601954" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4601954" class="dsq-comment-message">"so even obama is only pumping up warren\'s homohating volume!!!!"<br><br>LMAO! WTF? Am I on Daily Kos?</div>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-header-4602183" class="dsq-comment-header">\
	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4602183" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4602183">Frank</span>\
	 </cite>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4602183" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4602183" class="dsq-comment-message">LMAO I know right  lol</div>\
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	 <cite id="dsq-cite-4599828" class="dsq-comment-cite">\
	 <span id="dsq-author-user-4599828">Monie</span>\
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	 <div id="dsq-comment-body-4599828" class="dsq-comment-body">\
	 <div id="dsq-comment-message-4599828" class="dsq-comment-message">Last time I checked, thousands of Blacks and other POC were disenfranchised of their votings rights in 2000 and 2004....and there were even some tricks and voter intimidation going on this past election.<br><br>Now tell me where Gay citizens (the White LGBT community especially) were dealt the same way.......oh, I didn\'t think so.  Matter of factly most are bitching now that they wish they could take back that vote because of an invocation invite...and not an actual policy decision.<br><br>Now one is saying gaybashing trumps anything....but what I do know is that through the pain of the passage of Prop 8, racism and scapegoating  of Black people, and blaming Obama for the passage itself  DID occur..... and all the while,  Ken Starr is still coming to take more rights away while the masses is distracted.<br><br>BTW, Rick Warren is busy scrubbing his website of anti-gay language....maybe there will be a bright side after all.</div>\
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			//		 disqus_facebook_forum (see authenticateFacebook).
			var facebook_api_key = 'bd6a8bc56f8eb204984f34b6fefe228d';
			if (typeof disqus_facebook_api_key != 'undefined') {
				facebook_api_key = disqus_facebook_api_key;
			}

			FB.init(facebook_api_key, window.facebookXdReceiverPath || null,
				{fetchSignedPublicSessionData: true});
		});
}


	


if(typeof(disqus_callback) == 'function') {
	var callback_params = Dsq.Utils.getRequestParams()['dsq_cbp'] || null;

	// We don't care about any errors in third-party code
	try {
		disqus_callback(callback_params);
	} catch (x) {
		if (typeof(console) != 'undefined' && typeof(console.log) == 'function') {
			// But it would be nice to let developers know about them
			console.log(x);
		}
		// pass
	}

	// HACK: We don't know if the callback wraps our container, which may
	// possibly result in a new DOM element.
	Dsq.container = document.getElementById('dsq-content');
}

})();




