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Jack and Jill Politics: Do You Doubt MSM Bias? This Maliki Statement Should Settle That

  • D. · 1 year ago
    So, question:

    Is the point to.....

    1. highlight that Obama's timetable was "endorsed" by the Iraqis, or
    2. to "destroy" McCain for not accepting a timetable?

    Keep in mind that both candidates have said that we will have to draw down from Iraq.
  • D. · 1 year ago
    Had to say Obama's name, didn't he......just couldn't have made the point without it, huh?
  • CPL · 1 year ago
    If there's regulation of the FCC, then withholding information like favorable polls proves biased coverage, and would earn them a big, fat fine in penalties, if not get their FCC license yanked.

    Thanks to Hillpatine's husband, the FCC was deregulated on his watch.
  • eclecticbrotha · 1 year ago
    The FCC is run by a Republican administration that has a reputation for politicizing every government agency. Why would they ruin their perfect record of biased-toward-Republican-ideology government by trying to get the media to tell both sides of the story?
  • CPL · 1 year ago
    Yes it is run by ReThugs, but the deregulation of it happened on Hillpatine's husband's watch.

    I can't stand the ReThugs, but we must acknowledge where GOP-lite Democrats set the table for them to continue their corruption.
  • Webb · 1 year ago
    Totally agree Rikyrah...

    The MSM is missing the point(s). In 2004, there was more than enough evidence for the MSM to "destroy" Bush, but it got dismissed (ala Dan Rather being fired from CBS for calling out BabyBush on his National Guard discrepancies)...the LESSON: In order to win, you must STAND for something as opposed to simply being AGAINST the status quo.

    So let's presume that the MSM is going to play *O* in such a way that they're increasing their AD revenues at his expense...so be it. Axelrod, Plouffe, and *O* himself have got to take all of it into consideration...and I'm very confident that they have done so.

    We are witnessing political brilliance. This week in Europe should prove to be a week of political brilliance. I encourage everyone to pull out a notepad and start taking notes.
  • msmartin · 1 year ago
    Well said.
  • CraigHickman · 1 year ago
    Preach to the choir, rikyrah.

    Thanks for putting it all together for those who don't wanna see.
  • msmartin · 1 year ago
    Who's pretending they don't see this? Are they blind and deaf?
  • Sepia · 1 year ago
    Nah, just bitter and desperate.
  • icebergslim · 1 year ago
    Look, al Maliki want us to get gone from Iraq.

    This is stepping all over the Bush WH and McLame's message.

    Even after the NYT got the REAL TAPE, which I wrote was out there. There is no misunderstanding what Maliki said.

    NTY translated it and it was what we read at first. al Maliki want us out. He played politics with Bush and forced Bush to a time table, though they are calling it something else.

    Read it all here:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/21/us/politics/2...
  • TRW · 1 year ago
    Did anyone read how they changed their position to the interpreter "mistranslated" the Prime minister's remarks after they received a call from the Administration?
  • B-Serious · 1 year ago
    EXCELLENT post, rikyrah!!! You nailed it!

    Never underestimate the opposition. The Bush administration didn't even try to spin Maliki's statement . . . they just made him take it back. Unreal.

    I haven't heard one "flip-flop" charge from the media directed towards McCain (come to think of it, little from the Dems) about this Iraq "horizon" bs or his flirtation with a 2013 withdrawal. But I do remember hearing Mika B. (Morning Joe) say that Obama "flip-flopped" on five positions in "five days." Now, if that's not from the RNC talking points then I don't know what is.

    Again, this is an excellent post, rikyrah. You should think about cross-posting it on other sites.
  • msmartin · 1 year ago
    rikyrah thank you so much for this post. You are so right. I'm watching ABC this morning (swore I never would again) looking for news and, of course, they're (Diane Sawyer) is covering the trip and interviewing McCain in person and allowing him to respond ad naseum to every point about Iraq and Afghanistan that Obama made. It sounds like a debate without Obama being there - shameful. Not one quesstion about how McCain and Bush are wrong - just a lot of air about the surge.

    rikyrah it is very clear what they are doing.
  • Texas_Girl_in_LA · 1 year ago
    Well, in that very same interview he said Iraq/Pakistan border. Only thing....they don't share the same border. Afghanistan and Pakistan do.
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    msmartin: YEP! I did suggest, on another post, that we could communicate our displeasure[O.K., anger] to Black commentators, e.g., Mr. Roland Martin, etc. who appear on some MSM programs. Let them "carry the message".
  • msmartin · 1 year ago
    I forgot to add: It will be up to you bloggers to call it out. As I've said before, we must fight McCain and the RNC with more vigor than we fought Illary's bullshit.
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    msmartin: AMEN - BIG TIME!!!!
  • RonnieB · 1 year ago
    Iraqi government officials are now playing the "he was misunderstood / it was taken out of context" card.

    Somebody stateside musta reminded al-Maliki that ... uh ... accidents can happen.
  • D. · 1 year ago
    Bullshit, Iraq:

    When it was first reported, al-Maliki said that he wasn't interjecting himself into our politics; that (and this is a paraphrase) "the American people will have to choose their own president."

    I understood what was being said then, and there was only one way to look at it. There's no way that could've been taken out of context. Adding in Obama's name (if it happened; the NYT is still suspect in my book) just makes it...more clearer.

    Obama got an endorsement from the last place on earth ANYONE probably expected him to. They just handed Obama the election. "We're fucked" may turn out to be an understatement.
  • RonnieB · 1 year ago
    Not if the media ignores this (which they've been doing).

    Remember all the accusations of Obama "flip-flopping" on Iraq? Well, when presented with a story that clearly relates to Obama's Iraq policy on troop withdrawal--and what's more relevant than the Iraqi leader's position on troop withdrawal?--the same media can't be bothered anymore.

    The media isn't covering this, PRECISELY because it's a gimme for Barack. They're acting as if he hasn't "earned" the coverage.
  • D. · 1 year ago
    I'm not sure he really has to "earn" this one. The damage is already done, just at the mention of the story.

    Even if all that was said was "Maliki suggests 16-month timetable for withdrawal of US troops," you could easily draw the connection.

    There's really not much for the MSM to say. It is what it is. Maliki can't really walk back from it-especially since Obama was mentioned by name.
  • Michelle · 1 year ago
    Iraq is an actual country where actual real human beings actually LIVE. It is occupied by the U.S military. This is actual lived reality for people.

    Looking through this lens, your concerns seem shallow and self-absorbed.
  • Michelle · 1 year ago
    That was a reply to D's comment starting with "Bullshit, Iraq:"
  • D. · 1 year ago
    ....which was a reply to Ronnie saying that Maliki said he was misquoted/taken out of context. He wasn't; he knew what he was saying.

    So, do tell....where does your comment fit in? Looking through my lens, I'm not really sure....
  • Michelle · 1 year ago
    I missed that piece, D.

    I think I stand by what I am saying, though ... there is something off in looking at this from such a US-is-the-center-of-reality perspective when we are actually talking about someone else's country.

    But I don't think I am very good at saying this clearly.

    And you are playing games with words in your response and it is ugly to me. Actual dialogue - not possible here.
  • D. · 1 year ago
    Then that's a different discussion, and I'll apologize for my snarkiness. Working on trying to act civilized.
  • Michelle · 1 year ago
    Thanks for the apology, D. I am sometimes not really good at articulating things about whose reality we're centering, though I almost always feel it really strongly (though not in words) and feel a sort of wrongness when something is off.

    I'm pretty limited, on this one, though -- I don't know how much I can contribute to a discussion of this ... I too easily get disoriented and already don't express things very clearly.

    But again, I appreciate your comment and apology.
  • D. · 1 year ago
    If it helps, I understood where you were going....... :)
  • djchefron · 1 year ago
    Media's assessment of likability doesn't match voters'
    http://mediamatters.org/items/200807180008?f=h_...
  • Sepia · 1 year ago
    Great post rikyrah!

    What can we do to call out the MSM for their bias and force them to report these stories?
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    Sepia: My suggestion: Continue our communications with Black media and make this a CENTRAL POINT. For example - Mr. Roland Martin, ? Robinson, etc. appear on various cable media. They could "take the message". Just a thought.
  • Town · 1 year ago
    This has nothing to do with Iraq, but is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that the press is not calling Obama the "presumptive Democratic nominee" anymore, they're calling him the "likely Democratic nominee?" What's up with that?
  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    not just you.
  • Noelani · 1 year ago
    To quote PE
    "Can't Trust em'"
  • GreenLadyHere · 1 year ago
    rikyrah: GREAT POST - as usual!
  • Karmi · 1 year ago
    NYT REJECTS MCCAIN'S EDITORIAL; SHOULD 'MIRROR' OBAMA More media bias, and once again…in Obama’s favor.
  • Lynne · 1 year ago
    At this point....my God...is John McCain walking around with a "Kick Me" sign on his back? For real, if the MSM really highlighted the relevant happenings around these two camps as they should....I think it would actually work to McCain's advantage because it would actually look like they were picking on a little old man...even though it would just be accurate reporting. I mean....McCain's campaign right now is better left to its own devices..they are literally too easy of a mark. I didn't see that before...I do now. Just look at the happenings in the last 48 hours...wow.....watching the goof-up on Good Morning America today, I just teared up for McCain...it was that bad.
  • Jocko · 1 year ago
    In light of the fact that the Republican party has appointed more blacks to cabinet positions than Clinto did, 98 % of the black community will not vote for McCain,a white candidate, with a black candidate running against him.\

    1.Is this racist?

    2.If not, what changes does the black community expect when he is elected ?
  • msmartin · 1 year ago
    Change for many, not just a few.
  • Karmi · 1 year ago
    Is media playing fair in campaign coverage? - .. The anchor blessing defines the trip as a Major Event and — much like a "Saturday Night Live" skit in February that depicted a press corps fawning over Obama — raises anew the issue of fairness in campaign coverage. MSM is ‘In-the-Tank’ for Obama. They put out stories favoring him, even if not true or a mistranslation, etc. “Biased”? Yes, most certainly, and that bias favors Obama.