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From: Cafe, Election Central
California Primary Results Certified: Obama Gains 4 Delegates
By Furion - March 7, 2008, 12:54AM
Nobody seems to be covering this, but it seems relevant news. The
California Primary results were finally certified on Tuesday, March 4,
and the final result is that Obama has picked up 4 delegates from
Hillary - for a total 8 delegate swing.
In case the significance of this number escapes you, Hillary's net
delegate win on March 4 was approximately 8 delegates (the certified
results have yet to be tallied, but isn't expected to swing much from
that number).
The result? Hillary's victories on March 4 were a wash.
hillary wants to win with the help of convinced republicans.
i think her dream ticket should be clinton/maccain. he'll even let her chose top or bottom.
well, that's ...change.
You've already done so much, but I was wondering if you are planning to go to Pennsylvania.
The American public has overwhelming said that they want Obama for president and that's who we should get.
She can win every contest from now on, which she won’t, and still not overtake Obama in the criteria of winning most delegates that was set by the Democratic Party. If the party reverses its own rules and throws the contest to billary, then Obama supporters will walk away from Denver and the party, virtually assuring a win by Grandpa.
I have read many blogs about the disappointment with Obama’s losses in Ohio and Texas. Well he won Texas just like Nevada. Ohio was never going to be a win for him given billary’s support by the state party machine. The rule counts delegates won as victory. He was 20 points behind and still won the all important delegate count. We are all distracted by the media hype and spin of primary victories as the ultimate criteria for winning. This is a campaign unlike any ever seen. Obama’s is a stealth campaign for delegates while billary follows the old model of ignoring Iowa, winning New Hampshire and South Carolina (which she lost big time) followed by a big win on Super Tuesday to finish her opponent. Because of his concentration on delegates, he virtually nullified her win in California by picking up some mid-western states. Obama’s playing chess and she’s playing checkers.
As in chess billary is relying on her Bishops (Governors, Mayors and elected officials’ party machines) to steer primary wins her way. She has lost some of her pawns (black voter, youth voters, and more educated voters) but holds on to other pawns (blue collar workers, women, and Hispanics). Her castles (super delegates) have only two moves, follow your constituents or be loyal to the candidate. Right now Obama has her in check (most delegates won, leading in popular vote, and most states won). If he keeps rolling up the delegate count, raising more money, and moving super delegates his way, he can call check mate.
He is also running a non-violent campaign against old style politics. Many of us want him to “do something” to show that he’s a fighter. Would anyone today say that Martin Luther King was not a fighter? We are so accustomed to dirty politics and anything goes that we accept it as the norm. He is trying to show us another way to do business. We have to be like those young people that sat down at the lunch counter. We have to steadfastly believe in his method of a non violent campaign and act accordingly.
needs to have surrogates out speaking
truth. It does not have to be negative. His numbers are falling
and something must be done sooner
rather than later! Most of you are fairly young and idealistic, but ask John Kerry or Al Gore how well
this type of campaigning works.
Oh, but this campaign is far different from Kerry or Gore's campaign. Three big differences, MONEY, interest from folks who normally don't give a damn and the little box you are looking into while you read this.
No way in hell, even 4 years ago, anyone could have run a campaign like this.
in a 48 hr timespan, I have organized with Obama supporters to do a Voter Registration event.
He MUST stay positive. We must stay focused. The ishnit will hit the fan soon enough. And Barack Obama will be above it all...
Peace,
I'm an OBAMA mama!!
I'm starting to despise him!
Bring on Mississippi!
http://offthekuff.com/mt/
Scroll down to the post titled "The last word about Republican voters in the Democratic primary".
One thing to keep in mind about the clowns who did do this- they lost the opportunity to make choices for the Republican candidates for the U.S. and Texas state House and Senate, the state Supreme Court, their county sheriff...fools.
Anyway, I'm satisfied. Obama won the Texas primary, and Rick Noriega, the winner of the Dem U.S. Senate primary, as part of a four-candidate field, garnered almost as many votes as the two Republican primary candidates put together. Be afraid, John Cornyn...be very afraid.
after all, it's her i want to win.
so yes, if i were a republican submarine i'd lie.
Sons of Reagan Democrats will, given a choice between an inexperienced, liberal white woman and an inexperienced liberal black man versus an experienced, moderate white man will choose McCain.
Clinton thus far has carried this group but polls show at least 25% of these voters will cross over to McCain if Obama is the nominee. truth be told, they'll ditch Hillary too.
I know, because I'm talking about my dad, my 4 brothers and their buddies. They live in MO, IA and WI.
The longer this race goes on, the more entrenched supporters become, the eventual nominee will be forced to put the loser on the ticket in order to 'unify' an 'reconcile' the party. If this happens, Dems will lose because neither candidate strengthens their position with white, middle-aged men.
Dream on!
obama may well continue to bring in new voters (there are so many of them) and mobilise other groups even more than he does now.
that woman won't. can't.
Senator Barack Obama stood before Washington’s elite at the spring dinner of the storied Gridiron Club. In self-parody, he ticked off his accomplishments, little more than a year after arriving in town.
Mr. Obama poked fun at himself at the Gridiron Club in 2006 with, left, his current chief strategist, David Axelrod, and his communications director, Robert Gibbs.
“I’ve been very blessed,” Mr. Obama told the crowd assembled in March 2006. “Keynote speaker at the Democratic convention. The cover of Newsweek. My book made the best-seller list. I just won a Grammy for reading it on tape.
“Really, what else is there to do?” he said, his smile now broad. “Well, I guess I could pass a law or something.”
They were the two competing elements in Mr. Obama’s time in the Senate: his megawatt celebrity and the realities of the job he was elected to do.
He went to the Senate intent on learning the ways of the institution, telling reporters he would be “looking for the washroom and trying to figure out how the phones work.” But frustrated by his lack of influence and what he called the “glacial pace,” he soon opted to exploit his star power. He was running for president even as he was still getting lost in the Capitol’s corridors.
UH OH.
"At least one member of the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections wants to investigate some Republicans who may have crossed party lines only to influence which Democrat would face John McCain in November.
Anyone who crossed lines was supposed to sign a pledge card vowing allegiance to their new party. In Cuyahoga County, dozens and dozens of Republicans scribbled addendums onto their pledges as new Democrats.
"For one day only."
"I don't believe in abortion."
A Plain Dealer review of thousands of records showed few of those who switched were challenged by poll workers...
Lying on the pledge is a felony, punishable by six to 12 months in jail and a $2,500 fine. "
http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2008/03/crossover_voting_was_heavy_and.html
http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2008/03/race_mattered_more_in_ohio_pri.html
This is EXACTLY what will happen unless Obama can knock her out. That is why he needs to have his surrogates out forcefully speaking
truth. He does not need to go negative, but he needs to get the truth about Hillary out to the media. Th FACTS will be enough.
This needs to end QUICKLY!!
Hillary is smart whether you believe it or not. There is a reason why she takes the negative
road and that is because IT WORKS!
Truthfully, it may already be too
late. He should have gotten rid of her before Ohio & Texas. He definitely needs to deliver the knockout blow BEFORE PA.
They will go into the convention with the race all but tied and the superdelegates will weigh the arguments. Popular vote lead vs. delegate lead. Big Blue states vs. small red states...etc. Both arguments are strong.
It was a mistake by the Dems to have two 'historic' candidates from the two largest factions battle over the nomination. Either one would easily be the nominee if they were running against a white man.
Now, both will be forced to create a 'Dream Ticket' and the Dems will lose to another white man. Blue collar, white males in the Democrat party will feel left out and crossover to McCain.
Obama should have stayed with original plan to run for Illinois governor in 2012 and then for the Presidency. He got ahead of himself, and he naively misjudged the ruthlessness of the Clintons.
Answer: REPUBLICANS!
I don't know. That's getting news, like Howard Stern telling people to 'vote for the worst' and vote for Sanjaya last spring........ but is it really real? Howard Stern had an impact, but not nearly as much impact as faithful AI fans and faithful original Vote for the Worsters (who were already gaming the system before Stern showed up and hopped the bandwagon).
I think Limbaugh had an impact, but did he really have more impact than regular Democrats wanting Hillary? for all the Republicans winking and nodding........ did they really outnumber Democrats in the places where they primaried?
The word I'm hearing is that East Texan Democrats wanted Hillary, and they gave her that primary vote edge. But Hillary was never predicted to get the caucus edge. That matters to me.
For me, this was pre-ordained because of all the talk about how Obama was expected to do well in areas with bigger black populations and those areas were going to have bigger delegate proportioning. Even without Rush, things were predicted to go down this way. I don't know if Rush should become a scapegoat and given a bigger head in the same way Stern was made a scapegoat and given a bigger head just because Stern tapped what was already there. All this Republican talk does, in my mind, is give Limbaugh the aura of power, a power I don't think he really has. But I don't have the numbers in front of me... and Jack was there.
Did Republicans outnumber Democrats? Why would Republicans consider it more important to screw their chances at affecting local politics this year in order to vote for Hillary? Are Republicans in Texas really that satisfied with John McCain that they wouldn't vote for Huckabee or anyone else who was on the ballot in spite of dropping out, and keep their chance to affect local Republican politics the rest of this year?