DISQUS

Jack and Jill Politics: Evening Open Thread

  • rikyrah · 2 months ago
    Snowe Taking Marching Orders from AHIP?
    by mcjoan
    Thu Oct 22, 2009 at 04:10:04 PM PDT

    AHIP is working Republicans, backing up any effort they might make to obstruct healthcare reform, and particularly the public option. It's looking like they got to Olympia Snowe:

    Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), the most likely Republican vote for the Democratic health care bill, told reporters Thursday that she would not vote to break a GOP filibuster if the bill put forth by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) contains a public option.

    "Would [inclusion of a public option] be enough for you to vote against the cloture motion?" a reporter asked Snowe on her way off the Senate floor Thursday afternoon.

    "On the public option? I'd say I'm against a public option, so yes," Snowe said.

    "But would it be enough for you to say, 'I'm not going to proceed to this bill?'" the reporter pressed. Snowe nodded on her way into the elevator.

    All these months Baucus and the administration have been courting her for this, she's waving her own veto pen. Presumably, it will be her trigger or nothing, but with momentum gaining behind a much stronger opt-out option, she's threatening to take her marbles and go home. Last week Tom Harkin asked whether 52 Democratic Senators should bend to the will of 5. But they should also be questioning whether the 52 Democratic Senators should be bending to the will of one Republican.

    It's time for Harry Reid to dust off the reconciliation procedures book. If Snowe is going to side with AHIP and the rest of the Republicans, they're going to have to do this without her.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/10/22/796008...
  • djchefron · 2 months ago
    If Maine is a so called blue state then its citizens need to send her ass to the unemployment line.That is all.
  • itgurl_29 · 2 months ago
    I've never coveted an 11 year old's outfit before. Malia is a fierce dresser! LOL
  • rikyrah · 2 months ago
    She's truly going to be a stunning young woman.
  • APeach · 2 months ago
    She is so tall! And she's only 11!! She's so cute--she's going to be a stunning woman. I guess the Secret Service isn't so bad, is it Mr. President?
  • carolinagirl · 2 months ago
    Have y'all seen this?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBXxbsOoFr4

    Funny as hell.
  • rikyrah · 2 months ago
    that was funny as hell.
  • BlackAmericanPrincess · 2 months ago
    OMG, I'm over here CRYING! LOL!!
  • rikyrah · 2 months ago
    Marcus Jordan Could Cost College Millions Over Dad's Shoes
    | 10/22/09 02:06 PM | AP



    ORLANDO, Fla. — A fight over the shoes Michael Jordan's son will wear at the University of Central Florida could cost the school as much as $3 million.

    Freshman guard Marcus Jordan is refusing to wear shoes made by adidas, the brand the university has a contract with for all its sports. He says he will only wear his father's Nike Air Jordan shoes because it holds special meaning to his family.

    The problem is UCF has a $3 million, six-year contract with adidas that requires coaches and athletes to use the company's apparel and equipment.

    UCF said in a statement Thursday that adidas was aware of the situation during contract renewal discussions. The university says it is working with adidas "in determining how this unique set of circumstances will work for both parties."


    Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/22/marcus...


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    then he should have gone to a school with a contract with NIKE.
  • djchefron · 2 months ago
    Just another example of the colleges getting paid and the athletes being exploited for their labor.
  • RobM · 2 months ago
    Damn Marcus and the university are pimps and whores simultaneously. i always thought there was a division of labor.
  • vulcan_girl · 2 months ago
    Exactly.
  • rikyrah · 2 months ago
    Charles Butler
    Charles Butler hosts "The Other Side with Charles Butler" on The Talk of Chicago WVON 1690 AM
    Posted: October 7, 2009 09:13 PM
    Eric, Arne and Chicago 2016

    While I hate to say I told you so, however I told you so. I predicted that the Chicago 2016 Committee would lose the bid for the Olympics. My reasons were clear, pragmatic, concise and on point. The Committee tried to portray Chicago as a world-class city, at least in the downtown and potential Olympic venue areas, while the rest of the city lives in Third World conditions comparable to Soweto, the Sudan, or Somalia. The wholesale killings in the city ravels the combat areas in other parts of the world. In the killing are let me quote some factual statistics about the violence in the Chicago Public Schools (CPS): September 08-September 09 = 45 deaths and over 398 wounded, September 8, 2009 to present = 5 deaths. Please understand that these numbers represent only students enrolled in the CPS. The statistics do not reflect crimes for people over 17 years old. So please excuse me, if I'm not exuberant or ecstatic about the White House's pseudo solutions and attention to this decades long problem.

    The video of Derrion Albert being beaten to death with a wooden plank, horrified the rest of the world, while festive Chicagoans gathered in the Daley Center for the voting results of the Olympic bid. They could have cared less about the plight of their fellow citizens who live on the Southside and Westside of Chicago. However, our dirty laundry was aired before the world, and the response was revulsion and anger about the existence of these deplorable conditions in the city bidding for the 2016 Olympics. Unfortunately, America again looked unequal, and uncaring from a racial perspective, and the world liken it to the benign neglect of Katrina in New Orleans.

    This morning a press conference was held at the Four Seasons hotel in downtown Chicago by Atty. Gen. Eric Holder and the Secretary of Education Arnie Duncan. The breakfast was attended by community activists, clergy, school and city officials selected by ______? It was amazing to me at a time when spending of federal dollars should be kept at a minimum, Pres. Obama and his administration have no reservations about conducting the business in a corporate businesslike fashion with taxpayer dollars. The Four Seasons Hotel, very expensive venue to hold an event by any standards.

    Pres. Obama and Sec. Duncan are not strangers to the issue of the youth violence in city schools, in fact, they are intimately aware of the situation because they both been party to the ongoing discussions about the youth violence issue over the last two decades. Some people familiar with the situation, even speculate that Secretary Duncan's policies as the CEO of the CPS is partly responsible for the fights and chaos in the schools. Pres. Obama knows firsthand about the killing of black children in Chicago because he served as an Illinois senator and our US Senator over the last 12 years.

    The power of the cell phone video camera is unmatched. The person that videotaped Mr. Albert being beaten to death accomplished more in a few minutes of video, than the fact that over 200 students were killed, and hundreds wounded during the last five years. I have been discussing and trying to bring national attention to this phenomenon for over 9 years. I shared with then Congressman J.C. Watts during a visit to Chicago that while it was tragic one time event of 12 children killed at Columbine High School, in CO we had more than 12 children killed in a month in CPS, and Los Angeles was far behind.

    Let me be clear, I think the White House was prompted to action because President Obama's hometown violence was broadcast around the world for all to see. It was extremely embarrassing for all of the public figures attached to the Olympic 2016 Committee. In Chicago, Black youth have been killed at alarming rates for the last two decades and no one has responded in a manner that will resolve this very dangerous issue. We consistently try to use outdated civil rights rhetoric and solutions to solve today's problems. I've heard it proposed by community activists and the clergy that we need to try to understand why these people are perpetrating violence against each other. Again a wasted amount of time and resources that could be better spent on students that are trying to do the right thing. A friend of mine Mr. Cox, said that, "the recommended solutions are like trying to determine why a fire started, without first putting the fire out.". I think that's an excellent analogy of liberal, non-confrontational solutions by people who really do not understand how to solve the problem.

    These young people that are killing our Black youth are not children they are for the most part adolescents, and young adults. They know right from wrong. As one of my caller's pointed out; "why would do try to hide what they're doing if they did not know it was wrong!." I would have to agree wholeheartedly with the observation.
    If someone asked for my immediate solutions to this problem I would say the following:
    1.) Define and distribute what we expect proper conduct, dress, etc...
    2.) Those not in compliance should be isolated, educated separately from masses
    3.) Enforce the laws about school regulation, truancy, and behavior etc...
    4.) There should be harsh consequences for trouble makers, not attention and $
    5.) Set expectations for students based on their individual potential and desires
    6.) Students deemed "problems" would be removed immediately and reviewed
    7.) Protect our children by any means necessary from the Urban Terrorists.

    These are real solutions that worked for Joe Clark in Philadelphia, and in Los Angeles for others. Our children are being killed and wounded as we speak, and live in terror every day with the threat of gun and gang violence. This situation exists largely because the people do not have the will, and courage to do what is necessary. We would rather march, and pray that the Urban Terrorist will just go away. We need to man up, and deal with the challenge.

    Peace, Charles


    Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charles-butler/er...
  • ecthompson · 2 months ago
    while Charles has a point, he misses some important reasons why Chicago did not get the Olympics. The Olympic committee still believes that Atlanta was somewhat chaotic and disorganized. Remember, there was a bomb blast at the Olympics. Secondly, and this cannot be underestimated, the Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City expose the corruption that was behind the Olympic committee. Salt Lake City -- the United States -- expose something that the Olympic Committee never wanted to be exposed. Finally, the international community is still pissed off at the United States for eight years of George W. Bush.

    Yes, there is violence in Chicago. There is violence in Atlanta. Atlanta got the Olympics. There's no doubt that lots of work needs to be done in Chicago. The city, like most of our major cities, has suffered from 30 years of Republican ideology. Lower taxes, defund the government, rotting infrastructure, complain the government can't get anything done and repeat the cycle. We seen this all over the country.in order to fix this we need to invest in ourselves again. This means that money needs to flow away from Wall Street toward Main Street and Martin Luther King Blvd. We need to clean up our streets and hire people to do this. We need to create an environment in which people believe that breaking the law is the exception and not the rule. We need to invest in our schools. We need to invest in our teachers. This is just a start. We have a lot of work to do.
  • morphus · 2 months ago
    School consolidation and school closing w/o community involvement and transition team = gang formation. (Yablonsky, 1997, p. 170). Any school CEO or superintendent who denies this fact is not being honest.
  • RobM · 2 months ago
    Can you believe this, Univ of Ala BOMBINGHAM is extending benefits to same sex partners?
    hat tip Pam's House Blend
  • rikyrah · 2 months ago
    snowballs in hell.
  • JJai · 2 months ago
    UAB is a nationally renowned medical program so in order to remain competitive with recruiting renowned faculty and staff.....

    I live in Bham and know many companies who offer the benefits so I don't see it as being so remarkable.
  • RobM · 2 months ago
    I appreciate what you added having eyes on the ground. Alabama is not thought of as being anything but negative regarding homosexual rights so any announcement of progress is news.
  • RobM · 2 months ago
    The link is to Christine Roehmnr discussing the affect of the stimulus on the economy.
  • RobM · 2 months ago
    It's currently 7,000/day losing their unemployment benefits. You fall off the reported unemployment rolls(U-$) so it may soon start going down and go to U-6 a not so discussed number. I wonder how many people find they can't keep their COBRA health insurance when that happens.
  • rikyrah · 2 months ago
    meanwhile, the Senate dawdles on unemployment extensions.