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Feingold Delays Vote on FISA Bill

Started by baratunde aka jack turner · 1 year ago

Nominated for Honorary Field Negro

So says The Hill Newspaper. There won’t be a vote on the Senate portion until after the Fourth of July. Sen. Russ Feingold has engaged in what we in the fields call “Field Negro Behavior”.

Objections by Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wis.) will push back an overhaul of the Foreign Intelligence ... Continue reading »

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  • Good for him.


    How does race factor its way into every conversation that we have lately?



    This is not a race issue, this about the privacy and rights of everyone.



    I'm all raced out!
  • I just want people to remember that Feingold isn't a presidential candidate....Obama is. Feingold can afford to vote more freely than Obama.


    Hopefully, most of you all get the message.
  • Go Senator Feingold.


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  • I think that Feingold's courageous behavior identifies him as a classic progressive Jew of the finest and oldest order. Take note my other brothers and sisters (I'm talking to you Schumer, Levin, Specter, Lautenberg, Kohl, Feinstein, Boxer, Wyden, Coleman, Sanders, and Cardin; Lieberman I don't bother with any more) and vote right.


    And, um, Senator Obama, it wouldn't hurt you to keep your October 2007 campaign promise and vote against any version of FISA that contains retroactive immunity for the telecom companies (and that means the one that's on the table now) instead of totally caving on this issue, as you've already done in the press. C'mon, man: even the usually accomodationist Harry Reid is coming out against this sucker. Surely this is a time to show a little support for that Change you can believe in.
  • @anonymous: I'm amused by the reactionary response against Sen. Obama over FISA. Do you think that Russ Feingold, Chris Dodd (who also threatened a filibuster) and/or Harry Reid would be taking the measures they are without the tacit approval of the leader of their Party, Barack Obama? I don't.


    I think there's strategy being played here and, while I'd love to see him out publicly campaigning against this, if he can sit on the sidelines, defeat telecom immunity and take some hits from the left, thus eliminating a potential critique from McCain in the general...



    Works for me.
  • Yeah I think there's a purpose behind Obama's handling of this most recent FISA legislation. Perhaps there's a bait and switch plan at play that will be revealed. Would everyone who reacted so negatively then 'apologize'? Or Obama could just be making a 'bad' choice, but I still think the entire foundation is cracked and filling a few sandbags on top of it won't change that.
  • "Strategy" is my hope. For the time being, Obama can thank Feingold for saving him a major headache with his base. But he's not gonna be able to duck this issue forever.


    Personally, I didn't want to write a post about this issue until Obama actually cast his vote in the Senate. Obama isn't sending good vibes, but I think he's at least earned the right to cast his vote before I respond.



    It's been an odd week for Obama. He ticks off his base, opts out of public financing . . . .BUT still gets a substantial boost in the polls at the same time. He must be doing something right. The state polls (including just about every swing state except for MO) are all going in his direction, some by double digits. It's still way early, but, at the moment, this has all the makings of a November landslide. And the good part is Obama's numbers should continue to rise as more and more Hillary supporters come on board.



    Again, I HOPE this shows signs of a greater strategy on the part of Obama and the Democrats. Either way Feingold deserves his props for sticking his neck out in a way that Obama did not (and quite possibly could not).
  • Well, God only knows what's slipped through the cracks for this long....what's another couple of weeks?
  • This is not a race issue, this about the privacy and rights of everyone.


    I'm all raced out!



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    Say it again.



    Wasn't there a post here at JJP that asked if we were obsessed with racism and bigotry in this country?
  • b-serious,


    I think Barack is faring well in the polls precisely because he pissed his base. Precisely because folks who though he might be a naive idealistic dreamer now see him as a shrewd politician who's playing to win and not just talk about hope and change.



    The American voter is an interesting beast, full of contradictions and cynicism.



    His opponents want to criticize him for flip flopping but they know that's part of the game of winning a presidential election.



    Name one president who never changed his position on anything for political expediency.
  • Back to Feingold.


    This is the reason why I think Feingold, Democrat of Middleton, WI, should stay in the Senate.



    If he ran for president again, and got traction, the MSM and the Reichwing would be focusing on his women problems. They did the last time. Yup, can't keep his pants zipped from what I've heard while I've been here in Madison. After the public drama of two marriages, he is really keeping it low while focusing on important stuff.



    Feingold does his job, or at least tries to. His ratings are high here, despite the fact that this is still the land of McCarthy. Sometimes being president is not necessarily for everyone. Clinton, Biden, Feingold. They're better at representing. In other words, a man's got to know his limitations. But those limitations have dividends.
  • I scrolled through DailyKos last night and all you could hear was the cauterwauling about FISA. I come over here and its the same scene. Even my writing group is up in arms about this.


    But the sixty four thousand dollar question is, if they already have the NSA, the CIA, and at least one black bag organization funded through the blanket portion of the defense budget the Pentagon gets that is wreaking havoc out there, why are so many of us with good sense wasting our breath about this Mickey Mouse bill that doesn't really control jack shit?



    We have been watched and listened to for decades, and it will continue, no matter what laws we put on the books, because the people in charge are scared of what you might do when nobody is looking.
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