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The Media is not holding Hillary's feet to the fire on--nothing!
I've sent e-mails asking them why and they're still silent on this matter.
They actually don't give a f%%% about what we think. They brush it off as over-zealous Obama supporters!
Obama's campaign has failed, in my opinion to use the media effectively. Maybe that's the curse of having so much donor funding - they don't have to figure out creative ways of getting their message out for free.
I was really angry this morning. I've been thinking that Obama has played it too safe in the home stretch. I wonder if in seeing victory, they've decided to not be bold to protect what they've already won; but, America needs a hero, a warrior. And, in the absence of his strong presence, Hillary will make him out to be a punk.
This AM, Morning Joe - who I detest - said, why wasn't Barack prepared for the flag pin question in the ABC debate. The camera went to Hillary while Barack answered and she looked down and pretended to write...because SHE WASN'T WEARING A PIN! GIBSON wasn't wearing a fucking pin!! Why did Barack respond as if he'd been caught doing something wrong? Why did he allow a nobody like Gibson to rattle him? He could have risen in that moment and been America's warrior, but he caved. I don't understand it, and it makes me angry.
Why would he make excuses during that debate for Hillary's Bosnia lie when it was himself who needed defending? Didn't he notice that she wasn't being attacked?
Maureen Dowd said something about Barack being used to charming people easily. I think she might be right...perhaps he doesn't know how to act when he meets someone who hates him. He recoils and withdraws and tries to be too nice.
Barack must not just relax and rely on his delegates to win comfortably in the home stretch, he must knock it out of the ballpark! He must not take anything for granted.
Sorry I didn't get the link.
it ends like this
"There is no doubt that Senator Clinton is a talented and an extraordinarily intelligent person. Her tragic flaw is her belief that only she is capable of leading. It is this that has caused her to engage in an effort to demean her opponent and engage in the kind of campaign that she once decried as "the politics of personal destruction." It is this that I call her narcissism, and the degree to which it has damaged not only the Democratic chances in November, but also her reputation -- defines the pathological self-destruction that so often follows from narcissistic behavior
This has gone on too long, and should end now. Former President Clinton has argued that all the states should be given a chance to vote. They should have that chance. And, if this campaign were focused on issues and a debate over competing visions of leadership, I would say, "Let it continue."
But this has not been the case. Given the behavior of the Clinton campaign to date, and the expectation this behavior will continue, I believe that prolonging this agony will only create deeper division. For this reason, it should end now.
My fellow superdelegates should wait no longer. As party leaders, we are uniquely positioned, and have the responsibility, to speak out. Indecision only serves to enable bad behavior. It is time for us to either demand that the behavior change, or act to end this now."
http://www.blackperspective.net/index.php/obamanites-do-baracks-candidacy-a-big-disservice
He had the perfect opportunity on Hardball to frame this question in another way, and he regurgitated MSM nonsense.
Other than what we've already mentioned about racial legacies, Barack knows he can't flatten Mrs. Nixon because he will need the apparatus of her party machine in states like Ohio and Pennsylvania and Michigan to have a chance to win those states in the general election.
If he pisses off the politicians that run those machines, they will either leave him to hang on his own or flatout work against him in November.
It's that simple.
The Democratic primary electorate is showing that it isn't interested in a candidate who fights so much that everybody around her becomes an enemy.
Obama's message of "we can disagree without being disagreeable" resonates deeply with this electorate.
He needs to stay the course. He doesn't need to become something that he isn't.
Let Mrs. Nixon be the monster in this primary. He can remain the human.
Clinton and the MSM IS writing the narrative and defining him and as the writer in the article said...it's not just about those of us that support him...he needs to show the country who he is not what other says he is.
Having said that, I am getting sick of the MSM barrage of race stastitics and discussions that are beyond divisive and useless.
If someone is making a voting decision mainly based on race then that (or those) individual(s) are not whom we need to be concerned with. Their decisions are made and will not be changed. However what about everyone else?
What about the real issues? If the MSM really cared about reporting the news and something called...the facts, then maybe the public would be getting info that is substantial and would enable them to make a more informed decision when entering the voting box.
I share your frustrations.
I'm not talking about going negative. But Obama MUST start getting out ahead of the news cycle. He is REACTING to everything Hillary does. SHE sets the standards. SHE sets the agenda. SHE determines the news cycle.
THAT HAS GOT TO STOP!
Perfect example: Hillary's fuzzy math wherein she miraculously claims to have more popular votes than he does.. .
Now, where is Obama on this issue? Why is Hillary's camp allowed to go on EVERY news outlet and trumpet this LIE?
You say something long enough and people begin to take it as truth. Fact: Popular votes have absolutely NOTHING to do with determining the nominee. Fact: Both he and Hillary are on record as saying this is a delegate race.
Yet Hillary's team goes there. It doesn't matter how absurd the argument. Hillary starts with the absurd and works her way backwards. It's negotiation tactics 101.
No one believes her new popular vote spin. But that was never the point. Hillary's goal was something deeper. . . guess what she's been able to do???
She's been able to reintroduce FL and MI into the political debate. So much that I've heard 3 or 4 pundits say it would be ok to count the FL votes because both of their names were on the ballot.
This is crazy. And it needs to stop. We shouldn't even be having stupid conversations like this. But we are. And that's because Hillary makes the news and Obama responds to it.
It hurts me to say it. But I've seen too many people (e.g., Keith Olbermann, Roland Martin, etc.) make arguments that Obama should be making HIMSELF!
It's like he's playing a prevent defense and Hillary's Peyton Manning with 2 minutes left and all three of her timeouts. It's a dumb move.
And one more thing. Hillary gets a pat on the back every time she goes negative. The media says it shows she's tough. Meanwhile that same media has begun the new narrative: "Obama is a punk."
I have my doubts.
Obama cannot frame the MSM narrative right now. They're on a mission. It won't even report his trickle of 4 superdelegates over the last two days.
The MSM is creating a narrative that Obama cannot change right now, no matter what.
The media wants to deliver Indiana to Clinton and an upset in NC.
He can't stop that narrative. Race to the White House is quoting Karl Rove right now.
Obama's surrogates aren't being invited to combat this and when they do, they get attacked when they try to tell the truth.
I've never seen anything like it. Obama is home resting and spending time with his beautiful family. That is exactly what he ought to be doing right now.
Rachel Maddow is the voice in the wilderness since the PA primary. She's the only one.
Everybody else is out to make sure this war goes to a bloody fight on the convention floor.
It's a perfect storm. The question will become who is destroyed by it?
It's all about ratings and money and power.
And it could all backfire.
craig,
I find it really interesting that this interview hits the news cycle at THE EXACT SAME MOMENT the Jeremiah Wright ad hits in NC. And, if I'm not mistaken, Rev. Wright VOLUNTEERED for this interview. Sorry, but his timing is horrible.
I find it interesting that this ad hits NC of all places. The very state that would rely on racial tensions to charge the white vote as a counterbalance to Obama's overwhelming advantage among African-Americans.
I'm not suggesting a conspiracy. But it's important to understand that both McCain and Clinton have a mutually shared objective: Knock Obama out of the race. They've been mimmicking each other's talking points for the past 2-3 weeks.
"Donna Brazile, Al Gore's former campaign manager and a still-undecided superdelegate, believes the attacks - both Clinton's and the GOP's - are aimed at painting Obama into the stereotypical angry black man. "First he wasn't black enough, then too black because of Rev. Wright," said Brazile, herself an African American. "They want a rise out of him and that will ultimately destroy his candidacy, that will make him the angry black male.
"Obama must create a new movement and he must create a whole new choir and in his new choir he's the conductor and they are inspired by hope," Brazile continued. "They are not looking to hear that angry jocular masculine tone that we're accustomed to in American politics. He should not hit an angry note. It's not what the choir will listen to."
b-serious, Wright and Obama ARE from separate generations. And Wright is the "angry black male" Brazile talks about. What would happen if a Black man becomes president? If Black liberation theology is about speaking truth to power, what happens when a Black man is in power? Is Wright afraid that Barack will be corrupted by that power and is thus trying to sabotage him getting there? A tough love approach to a member of his ministry? Or is he simply fighting a generational war against Barack? Is he mad that Barack denounced his words?
There's more here than meets the eye.
Well, yes. But in this situation she so accurately describes, I want to know what will and should the DEMOCRATIC PARTY do to support this high quality candidate who is publicly facing the gendered racism of "is he an angry Black male."
What should the PARTY do instead of leaving him to fend for himself against one of their own, for crying out loud. "Prove yourself to everyone in the Party and the nation, Senator Obama, while we, uncommitted, just watch to see if you can do it."
Why has the Democratic Party not *denounced and rejected* Hillary Clinton -- words, actions, overall tactics? Why has the Democratic Party leadership not stepped out and said it is not on the same side as the GOP
(Sorry I know this is redundant, I'm single note right now)
Dem party "leaders" are cowards. They're not sure they want a Black nominee.
He had the perfect opportunity on Hardball to frame this question in another way, and he regurgitated MSM nonsense."
I understand what you're saying, but I don't want to slap him, because although the thought "Why can't SHE close the deal" eventually crossed my mind, it took a while. I hate to admit it, but these kinds of racial dynamics are so insidious, you can buy into the framing yourself for a while before you snap to the fact that you've bought into them. The same goes for right-wing political frames, which overlap with white racial frames.
Chris brought up something that I've heard him suggest before, that maybe it is really the woman of the house who chooses where to worship - and perhaps that is what prevents him from making a clean break from Wright. I wondered the same thing when the Wright controversy broke.
I don't trust the motives of clergy. Their agenda is to preserve the framework that supports their survival. There are also elements of ego and celebrity involved in the so-called preaching of the gospel. Sometimes when people are screaming for your blood - justified or not - it is the time to lay low and keep your mouth shut. Wright stands to lose nothing by observing this and I think this is one of those times.
He can't.
If he does he's perceived as being "disrespectful" toward Clinton. We know what that is code for.
He can't control the "media narrative." Nothing he says or his surrogates say (when they are invited) matters. They change the story as they see fit.
And the most important point of all that Hickman made:
Dem party "leaders" are cowards. They're not sure they want a Black nominee.
And that my dear friends is why we're still in this race. Al Gore, Carter, Reid, Pelosi, Dean...ANY of them could end this thing yesterday.
Funny though they aren't even willing to seriously talk about ending this thing until June...at the earliest.
LOL. That tells u all u need to know right there.
Since when has "every state" needed to vote before we had a nominee. the media just straight ignored Huckabees ass when it became apparent that it was mathematically impossible for him to win.
He was begging for debates and couldn't get them. Now anytime Hillary says debate...its on. LOL.
The dem "leaders" are hoping for that asteroid to fall on Obama's head or for him to be caught with a live boy or dead girl.
They thought they had it with Wright. They were praying with "bittergate" and now they are stuck. That's why this thing continues. They're hoping that some major fuck-up happens and they can say, "See we can't vote for him. He's unelectable."
Problem is...What about all those Black folks who been voting for Obama...what happens to them? Anyone here wanna bet Clinton gets 92% of the black vote? Who wants to bet she cracks 50%?
The last time white folks thought they could handle Black votes and win a big state (Illinois) without its major city (Chicago)- Nixon became president.
They're hoping that some major fuck-up happens and they can say, "See we can't vote for him. He's unelectable."
They might get their wish with the upcoming Wright interview and Obama scheduled to appear on Fox on Sunday.
Don't be a cynic. Please? Not now.
I am writing to tell you about my grandfather in Johnstown, Pennsylvania. I read this morning, the dawn of the Pennsylvania primary, an article about the so-called age divide that has pervaded this primary election, with the Clinton campaign cleaning the pre-Internet, pinochle playing, elderly citizens of Pennsylvania and the Obama campaign sweeping the younger voting populations. I do not believe we, the American people, can be so neatly divided.
My grandfather, Frederick, 91, recognized a profound truth in Senator Barack Obama’s message of hope and exercise of change, a truth that for him transcended age, race, and even party lines. My grandfather has been a registered Republican his entire life. Even during these times, when the heavy weight of serious issues is upon us and our President has disheartened even those within his own party, my grandfather has sworn to go to his grave a registered Republican. Today, Frederick, 91, registered Democrat, is voting for Barack Obama.
... I recently watched an ad by the Clinton campaign evoking images of the Great Depression and World War II. These images are meant to remind voters, particularly those who remember and were shaped by those times of the fear and suffering that encompass our existence. My grandfather was raised, in Johnstown, by a widowed mother, of German descent during the Great Depression and served in World War II as an airplane mechanic in Texas and New Mexico. Other images also play in my grandfather’s memory: such as two Johnstown floods and stories of the 1889 Great Johnstown Flood when a young aunt and uncle on a rooftop, perished when the house foundation gave way, or memories of Bethlehem Steel Company closing (after the war he returned to Johnstown to work in the mill for 35 years) and later, along with other retirees, losing his benefits.
Today, my grandfather’s thoughts are on issues that will affect his children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren: the war in Iraq, the weakening economy, the warming of our planet and our struggling healthcare and educational systems. My grandfather, body aged and bent, has his clear blue eyes focused on today’s horizon. He is no stranger to fear and suffering; yet, he has not surrendered to it. My grandfather is still hopeful. He is hopeful because a man, 44 years younger, is running for president on a platform of hope and change that is as old as this nation. Today, history continues to speak and Barack Obama gives voice to the dreams of our ancestors; dreams that ended the Great Depression, dreams that fought against the fear and divisions that marked the Second World War, dreams that helped a city rebuild after a great flood, and dreams that today can end the war in Iraq, rebuild our economy, and heal our country. It is these dreams, of my grandfather, his mother and his father (who as a young man immigrated to the United States from Germany), and the founding families of this country that will unite the American people to face the great challenges that affect us all: old and young, white and black, Democrat and Republican.
Sincerely, a devoted granddaughter,
Megan
Oak Hill, WV
Why the super delegates allow the Clinton's to go on trying to damage Obama is a mystery. Rachel Maddow just said it all on Olbermann tonight. What are they are waiting for and why? Frankly, the Democratic party leaders know neither candidate gets to the magic number without them. The remaining states won't be the deciding factor so what really is the point? Will the super delegates really dis their most faithful base and will they dis all those new Democratic voters who they know registered in greater numbers for Obama than Clinton? If the Democratic poobahs screw this election up by nominating Clinton who is viewed negatively by over half of Americans and then basically give the brush off to all the positives Sen. Obama's candidacy has gifted to them, then they deserve to lose. My interest in this election will probably be over if that happens anyway.
Sorry to go on, here is James Zogby's article.
James Zogby
End It Now
Posted April 23, 2008 | 03:53 PM (EST)
"There is a bizarre, and even tragic, unreality to the continuing drama playing out in the Democratic primary. Partly due to the seven-week gap between the first 42 contests and this week's match-up in Pennsylvania, and partly due to the tenacity and temerity of the Clintons, this election is being presented as close and not yet over.
But it is over.
Dragging it out any longer only serves to indulge the Clintons' narcissism, while damaging the Democratic party's chances for victory in November. A few observations:
First: The numbers are clear: Clinton cannot surpass Obama's elected delegate total in the contests that remain. It is not unlike a fifty-two lap motor race. In the first forty-three laps, Obama has passed her twice, and built up a lead that is insurmountable. Now, in the midst of the 44th lap, it only appears to be close, but it is not. The only way she could possibly win is either by changing the rules of the game in Michigan and Florida, or convincing a substantial number of superdelegates to cast their ballots for her -- overturning the results of the elections to date. Either of these two scenarios would cause a devastating upheaval within the party, bringing on what I call a "1968 moment."
Second: There is no doubt that the Democratic base has been energized by this election. The record number of voters, volunteers, and contributors point to this fact. But, at the same time, it is important to acknowledge that real damage is occurring within the Democratic constituency. Polls that show a growing fracture within the Democratic coalition should be read as cautionary signs to be heeded. Those Beltway pundits and party regulars who say "Don't worry, after the convention, Democrats will come together" are out of touch with the real damage that has been done in the minds of voters on both sides of the divide.
Early on, Senator Obama spoke eloquently about the degree to which cynicism had infected our politics, resulting in voters no longer believing what politicians have to say. Only those who did not understand his message, or heed the lesson he sought to teach, can believe that Hillary and Bill Clinton will be easily able to undo the negativity they have created. Some voters will surely ask, "Were they lying then, or are they lying now?"
Third: There is no doubt that Senator Clinton is a talented and an extraordinarily intelligent person. Her tragic flaw is her belief that only she is capable of leading. It is this that has caused her to engage in an effort to demean her opponent and engage in the kind of campaign that she once decried as "the politics of personal destruction." It is this that I call her narcissism, and the degree to which it has damaged not only the Democratic chances in November, but also her reputation -- defines the pathological self-destruction that so often follows from narcissistic behavior
This has gone on too long, and should end now. Former President Clinton has argued that all the states should be given a chance to vote. They should have that chance. And, if this campaign were focused on issues and a debate over competing visions of leadership, I would say, "Let it continue."
But this has not been the case. Given the behavior of the Clinton campaign to date, and the expectation this behavior will continue, I believe that prolonging this agony will only create deeper division. For this reason, it should end now.
My fellow superdelegates should wait no longer. As party leaders, we are uniquely positioned, and have the responsibility, to speak out. Indecision only serves to enable bad behavior. It is time for us to either demand that the behavior change, or act to end this now."
thanks for sharing Megan's story......gives me more "hope."
I understand he's black, and I understand how America perceives us. I get that. But Barack has charisma. He's a likeable guy. I don't think bringing up Hillary's issues or defending himself more strongly will necessarily paint him as the "angry black man." He might be worried about it tarnishing his "new kind of politics image." But he's got to do something.
I think Chris Matthews made a good point today when he said that Hillary comes across as a fighter and, for whatever reason, Barack doesn't. I love Obama, but he's really strarting to strike me as a guy who feels he's so ahead, he doesn't have to do much work now. Almost like a high school senior in April who is getting a heavy dose of senioritis. The Obama campaign is reminding me of a football team that's up by 21 points in the fourth quarter with less than ten minutes left. Sure, he could still show lots of fire and fight despite the score, but instead feels comfortable enough to play prevent defense and rest some of his starters.
To me, Obama's gotta show that he wants this a little bit more. I have no doubt he does, but show it. Show it. I feel like he's kicked up his feet onto the coffee table, unbuttoned his shirt, put his arms behind his head and thinks, "the superdelegates should be stepping in any moment now..."
Flip that script. Obama can close the deal if he's allowed to do so.
Ask the real question: Why can't the Borg Queen 'get 'er done'?
Because the MSM would have to admit they haven't been doing their jobs since 1998, that's why.
Because the Borg Queen would have to admit to scorched earth tactics that would rather destroy the party nominee if it's NOT HER.
Because the Democrats refuse to listen to Howard Dean's voice of reason and are too damned cowardly to admit they don't want a Black person being the party nominee, and therefore, show their racism.
Because the fix is in for John McCain to get the nod for POTUS and FUBAR worse than the current occupant of the White House.
Obama has done what was required of him; be a NON-THREATENING NEGRO. The problem is, he's still considered a threat, regardless of how non-threatening, how subservient, how whatever he has been.
America is a bigoted ho who can't admit that she's not what she advertises herself to be, because if she were, Obama's race wouldn't be an issue; the Borg Queens' gender wouldn't be an issue, and issues such as Social Security, Iraq, the economy, education, the environment and social justice matters would be the issues.
I'm an American and as patriotic as those congressional fools hollering about a $2 lapel pin that was probably made in China and sold to Wal-Mart by the truckload for $0.89; yet I see America for what she has really become; a ho and a trick selling to the highest bidder without regard for her citizenry.
This reliance on political leaders to get the job done of doing better governance and winding up with the same results (no governance) is insanity and we, America's people, need to shut it down. We need to become our own leaders and govern accordingly, because we really are the leaders we've been hoping and waiting for.
But that's not the narrative, so that's not the truth.
Sad.
Afterall, this is THEIR country to hear them tell it, so if they choose
to destroy it, so be it. We will
survive--we ALWAYS do!
That is the God's honest truth!
I believe he will win.
I sincerely believe SBO with win the nomination and I also believe there will be tons of fallout from this process. Especially, since the super delegates are choosing to wait and risk everything. Who will be out after their next election,
And really, what does Hillary have on them? Why haven't they made the move? Hillary can't win - they will have to give it to her and everybody knows there will be hell to pay. Who in their right mind wants to pay that bill?
But we also need to face the fact that the media is in so many ways a shameless bunch as well, and they just buy into the Clinton narrative.
If we had a responsible media, they would be pounding the drum hard every day reminding everyone that Hillary cannot win and at this point is just destructive to the party.
Instead, they repeat all her talking points. It really is sickening. And the cable outlets keep hiring the Bush liars from the far right: Rove, Snow, etc. It seems they are stocking up on conservative liars and demagogues, all trying hard to be Fox News.
And Hillary is to blame for this. If she had run a decent campaign, the far right tactics would have so much less legitimacy. And if she had done the right thing and dropped out after losing 12 in a row, then when the right wing would have attacked Obama, he would have had the full shield of the Democratic party to protect him.
Hillary is literally trying to make the whole country racist in her quest to win, and make the whole country lower themselves to the Rush Limbaugh level. She is doing more than harming the party; she is harming the country.
I think all of us ordinary people need to beat the drum and stomp our feet and get mad as hell and demand that Hillary be forced to drop out.
We need to remind the Democratic party that they cannot win without the black community, or the party activists, or the young people, etc. And we won't stand the Hillary smear campaign to go on any longer.
We also need to make it clear to the Democratic party leaders that we will blame any general election defeat on Hillary Clinton and that she would not have a chance in hell of winning the presidency at a future date.
"In an interview with The Times late Thursday, Mr. Clyburn said that Mr. Clinton’s conduct in this campaign has caused what might be an irreparable breach between Mr. Clinton and an African-American constituency that once revered him. “When he was going through his impeachment problems, it was the black community that bellied up to the bar,” Mr. Clyburn said. “I think black folks feel strongly that that this is a strange way for President Clinton to show his appreciation.”
Mr. Clyburn added that there appears to be an almost “unanimous” view among African-Americans that Mr. and Mrs. Clinton “are committed to doing everything they possibly can to damage Obama to a point that he could never win.”
I also say we step up our letters to the DNC to let them know we have recieved Mr. Clyburns message loud and clear.
And I'm not black...get all your friends onto this....this is not just a black community, this is an OBAMA community.
Put up or shut up...that is my motto.
What I would like to know is why hasn't Clyburn come out for Obama if he feels so strongly about this. IT IS TIME FOR THE SUPER DELEGATES TO MOVE!
I don't like it.
Allows the Clintons to be victims.
I sent an email to the DNC just before I saw your post.
I didn't talk to them about race though. I talked to them about Hillary's Republican tactics and the fact that she is working in unison with the Republican party.
Are they trying to get the race thing kicked off again before IN?
Don't forget, North Carolina is the home of Jesse Helms.
You are reading my mind. They would like all the angry black people to start
"whining" about their candidate again.
I don't know all the answers...is Clyburn to chicken to come right out and say he endorses Obama. Is he trying to play the middle? I don't know. I'm just an observer trying to figure out like the rest of you...why the super delegates don't have the balls to endores Sen. Obama.
I'm not an insider...I don't know what threats the sd's have hanging over their heads...I don't know how many have a conscience....looks like not many at this point.
I just don't know...all I know is that I am one Democratic voter who will not vote at all if Hillary is annointed. Frankly, I hope the Democratic party will shrivel into a non-entity if they annoint Hillary.
I will cheer from the sidelines.
I don't know either, but what I do know is that I'm sick of these black so called leaders speaking for me when they can simply speak for themselves.
He's a black man, and a powerful one at that, he should speak for himself and do it loudly with a resounding endorsement for Obama. Until then, he can kiss my ass.
I don't know.
It just seems nutty.
Obama speaks to UFCW
If he feels that way then it's okay for him to say it.
He should not try and speak for the black community especially when he has remained uncommitted and shown no real leadership.
I want to know who these black people are he's talking too>
I know it is hard to take...I still question people like Donna Brazile, Al Gore, John Edwards....so called party leaders...they know the outcome....just say it.
In my opinion they don't have the strength or courage to say what Obama does every day!!!!!!!!
This is one of the things I admire about Obama...he talks to us like adults and doesn't couch things like Clinton does. She is trying sell a story that just because she was married to Bill Clinton in the 90's - voting for her will restore all that. It is all a fallacy and voters should know that.
When will the democratic super delegates grow a spine and vote for the nominee who has shown his spine by beating one of the biggest most entrenched political machines ever!!!
There was also a panel talking about Rev. Wright. Poor Roland was jumping around trying to stamp out that fire again. The Republican on the panel was positively orgasmic to be able to bring up all the inflamatory statements once again. Wright has a speech coming up - I forget where - Roland thought that it might be cancelled.
It is unfortunate, I think Wright might be a very nice man in circumstances where his authority isn't threatened. Maybe he is kind of smearing Obama with the label "politician" and all the profanity that that holds....while blessing himself with the label "pastor" and all the supposed righteousness that holds. Isn't he supposed to be retired????
Whatever...it was enough to make a person gag. I still wonder why the media doesn't give Obama credit for still standing on his own two feet and in the lead to one of the most formidable political machines ever? No, they would rather dwell on lapel pins.
Even though I graduated from college and am 58 years old and have experienced alot in life...my view points are meaningless.
No, we have to put up with George simpleminded S and the Chris Matthews of the world and what they choose to spew out for the sound bites of the week.
He reminds of Alfalfa (he just needs a cowlick) and Hillary is Darla....i.e the Little Rascals.
Sorry all...but, now every time I see Sen. Bayh I think of Alfalfa.
And let's raise our voices in a chorus that demands that Obama be the Democratic nominee, and that Hillary Clinton drop out.
Lacking that, let's raise our voices demanding the Democratic party put an end to this bloodletting and slime campaign by the Clintons and decide on Obama as the nominee.
One thing you have to hand it to the GOP: they would have shut this thing down a long time ago, esp. if they had a candidate as appealing as Obama. They would not have allowed a fraction of the crap that Hillary has brought into this contest.
I don't know the best way to encourage supporters to support Barack but I feel that if we were to donate to him before the end of April, only an idiot will hold to the perception that Barack can't win in November. Face it a 5 year old can beat McCain so the electable argument is a complete farce.
How can we encourage folks to donate to Barack. If we can help him raise another 10M before the end of month that is a decisive slap in the collective faces of the Clintons and the biased media.
In order to get SC pushed up to top billing---and therefore black representation---as one of the January sanctioned primaries, these so-called weak leaders had to give their words that they would not endorse during the primaries or influence the black vote. So, in essence these "weak" leaders had to give up their voice so that black voters could have more of a voice.
Traditionally Iowa and New Hampshire were always first but some of you may be old enough to know that blacks and hispanics (represented by Nevada in top four billing this year) traditionally voted later in the primary season with little impact, even though blacks have been the party's most loyal constituency. Most states get drowned out in Feb, specifically SuperTuesday, by California and New York and after that it is usually pretty much over.
With Dean at the helm, a deal was struck to give more prominence to the most loyal base by moving SC up but people like Clyburn and Brazille had to agree to NOT endorse so that seemingly ungrateful people good get their long deserved position of power in the primaries. Mr. "weak" Clyburn helped give you the frontrunner with his suspect silence because SC saved Obama and was the driving force for him being crowned the new of Camelot.
I'm surprised to stop by and see attacks on Clyburn and Brazille. Showing chinks in the armour so quickly and so easily will not serve the candidate well but that has always been used against the community. I guess that is the way it works, always divided and easily defeated. Rest assured Clyburn and Brazille will endorse when the nominee is solidified but IMO their silence more than paid off in the political windfall that was SC and the Kennedys and I for one appreciate it.
It was interesting observing here for a minute but it is time for me to move on. Best wishes for continued discussions and success to all members here. Keep up the good fight.
I have a plane to catch.
Goodbye and good luck!
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But it may backfire if they were to end it now. You know Sen. Clinton has an extremely loyal following especially the women who want so badly to see a woman president. They have been incensed at calls for her to drop out and if the superdelegates were to all endorse now and Obama clinches it, they would be very upset at an attempt to force her out before all the votes were counted.
I'm not saying there's nothing else going on! I'm sure some of them are really not certain when it comes down to it that they want a nominee who's half black, and they're looking for any excuse not to give it to him. Or they're scared of what revenge the Clintons may take on them, and they've never been able to get the idea of her inevitability out of their heads.
I do think it is amazing that the question is NOT widely being asked, how can Clinton possibly win without the black vote? This is the culmination of being taken for granted for years by the Party - -they actually believe that even if she steals the nomination after portraying Obama as a scary black guy, the black voters will come home to her in Nov. Ha! I don't see her getting half of the black vote, maybe not 30%. Not that most will vote for McCain - - they just won't vote. (Though I hope people would at least come out to vote for any good candidates farther down the ballot)
I hope it doesnt come to that. I hope we will have our nominee who earned it - -BUT this is not going to be easy, we can't just sit back and hope. Keep busy--donate, get busy and MAKE CALLS to NC and IN - - go to the website and sign up, and you can make calls from home, it is scary at first but you can do it and it can be VERY effective. Or go to one of the next states to work for the campaign if you can manage it.
That's what I don't get. Would those super delegate have been willing to extend the SAME curtesy to Obama supporters if the shoe was on the other foot?
Would Obama be allowed to keep changing the goal posts if his campaign was in debt; he lost 11 straight contests by an AVERAGE of 33%; his negatives were above 50%; nearly 60% of the party thought he was dishonest; AND he was using all of his time to bloody the frontrunner and kill the party's chances in November?
When does someone tell Hillary and her supporters to get over it? 'Cause that's EXACTLY what they'd tell Obama supporters in that situation.
Why is Hillary special. No one threw a fit when people asked John Edwards. Same with Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani, Fred Thompson. . .
Those people didn't have to drop out when they did. This is nothing personal against Hillary. She's being asked to drop out because THE MATH DOES NOT WORK FOR HER.
Like others before her, she's reached the point where her personal ambition conflicts with the goals of the party (and quite possibly the country). It's that point where most candidates do the honorable thing and step aside for the good of the party. But I guess it's asking waaaay to much of Hillary to give up her entitlement.
I meant to say:
"No one threw a fit when people asked John Edwards to drop out back in January."
And Maya Angelou? I know she is not elected, but remember when she said we should support Clarence Thomas because he was Black, despite what he did to fellow woman Anita Hill? We knew better, she didn't. It seems to me that folks with bad judgement keep making the same mistakes. Barack is right.