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Jack and Jill Politics: FOX NEWS JOKES ABOUT OBAMA ASSASSINATION

  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    Liz Trotta was not only unprofessional but her conduct was akin to gross misconduct - she should be dismissed.


    Please visit the websit below and sign the petition - something must be done!



    http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/fox-news-has-to-sack-liz-trotta
  • ac · 1 year ago
    Please sign the petition located on the right sidebar from the clip. I don't know if i'll do any good with Fox but we need to let them know we're not going to stand for this.


    Also consider contacting the FCC as well - those are public airwaves on which they are inciting violence and expelling their filth.



    I don't know if this qualifies as "profane" it does to me so I'm complaining. Here's the link to the FCC Form and instructions: http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm?sid=d1e6...>
  • Town · 1 year ago
    The boom should have been lowered on Hillary Clinton when she made the statements back in March, but people were too scared of "the chickens have come home to roost" to look at Hillary's statement.


    She didn't bring it up again until early May, after she got her ass whipped in NC and almost lost IN by a small percentage.



    Then after WV and KY she got bold again, after seeing nothing happening to Mike Huckabee when he made his little crack.





    Because after the March statements, when she made the two other statements in early May, she didn't use the word "assassination." But after she saw everyone gloss over Mike Huckabee's "joke" she got gold and used "assassination" again.



    The problem I have with Hillary Clinton's statement is she's given everyone permission to joke, discuss and ponder Obama's assassination. And if everyone is discussing it, it's only a matter of time before some nut decides he's been given his signal by Hillary.



    That's why I'm getting a bit tired of the "super" delegates because I think if Obama had said something like that against her, he'd be kicked to the curb with the quickness. But everyone wants to treat Hillary with kid gloves and "give her respect."



    I'm sorry, somebody who openly wishes for the physical demise of their opponent so they can step in should not be handled with kid gloves or given any respect.



    There's no other way you can take her statement:



    Bill Clinton didn't wrap it up until June



    vs.



    Bobby Kennedy was killed in June





    She is straight up saying she's staying in the race "in case" something happens to Obama...and now we know what that "something happens" is.
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    Fox isn't a respectable news organization.


    But even on Fox, comments like Trotta's have no place.



    She's despicable. She made a casual apology this morning on Fox -- as if her wishing death on Sen. Obama was just a misstatement.



    Disgusting.
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    Town - I see no reason why HRC used these egs mainly because Bill Clinton wrapped up his nomination in March 1992 and RFK commenced his campaign in April/May 1968.


    The Superdelegates should stop pussy footing with the Clintons and get a grip - end this crisis!



    The Clintons are holding the party to ransom!!!
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    It's faulty reasoning by Hillary...then again everything Hillary has done from the time she declared herself the nominee has been based on faulty reasoning.


    Especially when you can point to 1968 and say the Democrats lost that year.



    Or 1980 with T. Kennedy vs. Carter...the Democrats lost that year.



    Make no mistake...she's going all the way to the convention and I expect several more lawsuits to be filed, too.
  • Admiral Komack · 1 year ago
    WARNING: Off-topic


    Clinton Camp Stokes RFK Flap by Blaming Obama



    By Zachary A. Goldfarb

    Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign accused Sen. Barack Obama's campaign of fanning a controversy over her describing the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy late in the 1968 Democratic primary as one reason she is continuing to run for the presidency.



    "The Obama campaign ... tried to take these words out of context," Clinton campaign chairman Terence R. McAuliffe said on "Fox News Sunday." "She was making a point merely about the time line."



    The issue is particularly sensitive given longstanding concerns about Obama's safety as a presidential candidate. (He first received Secret Service protection last May.) The Obama campaign called Clinton's words unfortunate and circulated a TV commentary criticizing them, although Obama himself said Saturday that he took Clinton at her word that she meant no harm.



    Hours after mentioning Kennedy's assassination, Clinton said, "I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation, and particularly for the Kennedy family, was in any way offensive."



    Obama senior strategist David Axelrod dodged questions about why the campaign was still circulating commentaries criticizing Clinton even after suggesting it wants to move beyond the controversy.



    "We're beyond that issue now, so certainly we're not trying to stir the issue up," Axelrod said.



    Asked if Clinton has personally called Obama to apologize for the reference, McAuliffe said she has not, "nor should she." He added, "Let's be clear. This had nothing to with Senator Obama or his campaign."



    McAuliffe noted that Robert F. Kennedy's son -- who endorsed Clinton last November -- has said that Clinton's reference to his father's death did not cross the line.



    "If Robert F. Kennedy Jr. doesn't find offense to it, why is it that everybody else should?" McAuliffe said. "They shouldn't. They ought to take Robert F. Kennedy Jr. -- he did not misinterpret it or misjudge it."



    Appearing on CBS's "Face the Nation", Clinton senior strategist Howard Wolfson said McAuliffe is "absolutely right" that Clinton didn't want to apologize to Obama for the remark and said: "I think it was unfortunate to attack Senator Clinton's remarks without knowing fully what she had said."



    McAuliffe said Clinton is staying in the race to give hope to the millions of women who have voted for her and "she is winning races." And the campaign chairman made clear that his boss would strongly consider pressing on if the Democratic National Committee does not allow Florida and Michigan delegates to vote at the party's convention this summer -- a decision that would boost Clinton's delegate total. The DNC's rules and bylaws committee is scheduled to meet Saturday to discuss the issue.



    "We are prepared to fight this so that all 50 states are included, that the delegates be seated. Let's have no questions about that. This race is still very close," McAuliffe said.



    Wolfson said the campaign believes the DNC will reinstate Florida and Michigan "100 percent. That's what they should do. That will obviously help us, but it's the right thing to do."



    The Obama campaign, meanwhile, delivered a strong signal that it expects the nomination contest to wrap up in the next 10 days, after the final primaries.



    "We expect on June 3rd that this process will come to an end," Obama senior strategist David Axelrod said on ABC's "This Week."



    "People in this country want change. They've identified Senator Obama as the candidate who can bring that change," he said. "And we're going to be united as a party after June 3rd."



    Axelrod acknowledged, "There's an enormous amount of pride and investment in Senator Clinton among millions of women across this country," and that unifying the party after a tense nomination contest will produce "some tumult in the short run."



    However, he said, Clinton's "strongest supporters understand how desperately we need change in this country, and I think that they understand that this is a critical election."



    One prominent Clinton supporter acknowledged that virtually all hope for her winning the nomination is gone now.



    "Obama clearly has the momentum. I am a proud Hillary delegate. But I predict the race will be over soon," said Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.). "The loser will concede graciously. "And I hope that we build what I call a unity ticket, either with both of them on the ticket or with the people on the ticket strongly representing the two bases which we will need to combine if we're to win in November over a very strong Republican challenge."



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  • RuthDFW · 1 year ago
    I guess this morning I am just playing devil's advocate and wrote about what if we are overacting just a little bit. Or at least i wonder where are the boundaries? I have heard comedians joke about Obama's safety - is it because she is an alledged newsperson that it is unacceptable for her to make teh comment.


    I DON'T AGREE WITH THE JOKE AT ALL. I agree with the outrage but just trying to make sure I am not contributing to the problem ---- where we parse every single word that comes out of someone's mouth because we don't agree with their politics/beliefs.



    Does this not contribute to them crucifying Obama for "bitter" comments.
  • smoothie · 1 year ago
    Ruthdfw


    Kieth Olbermann's special comment in which he said "Cold BloodedaKillers" in describing the Administration ie Rice, Rove Cheney etc. was perceived as him talking about the troops and every right wing nut in the free world came out and asked for his dismissal.



    He had to come out and clarify that comment.



    Bill Maher said that Vice President Cheney's Death WOULD SAVE LIVES, and MANY over at Fox

    tried to get him fired as well.

    (except for O Reilly, which shocks me)

    I think that if were being fare Trotta should feel heat. Plenty of heat.



    You cant have it both ways is the poit we try to make..Plus, what gets missed over the comment, was



    A. Her calling him Osama. May seem small to some, but it feeds into the muslim stereo type if even a little.



    B. The ease and tone in her voice in which she said it. I likened it to her looking at Barack as nothing more then an uppety N*gg*r who's way outta his place and needs to be checked.



    Now. i may in your opinion read entirely to much into it. But, from my perspective, when ive seen peolpe speak in that tone, and basically use that level of nonchalance it typically meant they looked at the person they were speakin of as mere pion...



    And they charged Barack with being Elitst...
  • B-Serious · 1 year ago
    I saw Liz Trotta's apology. It's over on TPM right now.


    I'll take it for what it is. Some will surely say it didn't go far enough. Some will be satisfied with her apology.



    The thing that gets me is that Hillary can't even do what Ms. Trotta did. It was a simple apology. Nothing special. . . quite possibly forced by the Fox hierarchy. . . but an apology nonetheless.



    Hillary can't even do that. She's one of those people who literally can't say the words, "I'm sorry."



    We don't need a "leader" like that.
  • marc · 1 year ago
    there are nutters out there who think it would be right to shoot obama, it would be patriotic, as patriotic as killing saddam, or osama bin laden. these nutters read a lot into three little words like "both we could", and see any apology as just necessary window-dressing, as negligable: they have received the "real message", they are not alone anymore...


    that is why one can say that hillary clinton has started the hunt on obama, and trotta has followed suit. while clinton's remark was still somewhat ambiguous (not its implication, though), i wonder if there are not laws out there by which trotta should be held accountable at court.



    i think that a court sentence against trotta would very much serve to send the message that the american society does NOT allow to call for a political assassination. a message the nutters would also hear.
  • nezua · 1 year ago
    the woman should be fired. and investigated pronto.


    can you imagine if, say, Wolf Blitzer said "We can only hope Bill Clinton will be shot."



    can you just IMAGINE. for just one tiny moment. it would be the news for weeks. blitzer would be on a corner with a cup in his hand.



    and yes, i think its best we obama supporters starve this line of thought of oxygen from here on in. it doesnt help anythinng to keep the conversation up. which is why both FOX and HRC want to keep having it.
  • Black American Princess · 1 year ago
    The law, U.S. Code, Title 18, Part 1, Section 879 - Threats against former Presidents and certain other
    persons:



    a) Whoever knowingly and willfully threatens to kill, kidnap, or inflict bodily harm upon -



    1) a former President or a member of the immediate family of a former President;



    2) a member of the immediate family of the President, the President-elect, the Vice President, or the Vice President-elect;



    3) a major candidate for the office of President or Vice President, or a member of the immediate family of such candidate;



    or



    (4) a person protected by the Secret Service under section 3056(a)(6);



    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.
  • Kenya W · 1 year ago
    OM freakin G!
    That was odd. How distasteful of a comment about someone who is a candidate for POTUS. The man could be POTUS in like 6 months and she thought that it was appropriate to say that she wishes that someone WOULD off him? These folks are really showing theur true colors...pun intended (with a snap)



    BAP,

    Thank you for that pertinent information. She should be brought up on charges. And I am really not being funny when I say that about her CRIME.
  • D. · 1 year ago
    Not the dumbest comment I've heard recently, but pretty high on the list.


    The "Obama/Osama" slip isn't that big a deal anymore. The people who still buy into that line of thought weren't ever going to vote for him anyway.



    You go around certain antiwar circles and you can hear talk of assassinsting Bush, sometimes within shouting distance of the White House.



    Having said that, it was not a smart comment for a couple of reasons: one, it's a really low form of the politics of fear.



    Two, it's terrible strategy: if the people who would be most affected by this sort of comment-older African Americans-didnt vote for Obama because of this, he'd probably still win. Plus, if anyone were to actually go through with it, it would be someone/some group from the right wing, which then slanders the entire GOP.



    A question about that law: does it apply to a candidate for the nomination, or a nominated candidate post-convention, when they usually get protection?
  • marc · 1 year ago
    thanks a lot, princess!


    let justice be done now.
  • The Christian Progressive Libe · 1 year ago
    The only way this gets stopped is that media folk get fired when they flip off their mouths.


    And I'm thinking we wasted all that time and energy getting Don Imus off TV; I'm sorry not enough energy was spent in building the movement to send the message in that if you're going to joke about Presidential candidates being assassinated, or "nappy-headed Hoes", it should cost you your job.



    Guess how fast we go back to political correctness when that happens?
  • Ronnie B · 1 year ago
    Clinton will continue to make comments like this because she knows that she--unlike the other 6 Democrat candidates who have NO CHANCE at the nomination--has the ear and eyes of the mainstream media. She and they will continue to perform this charade; the media know that she will utter something horribly offensive; it will get played up to get attention; and the media will then allow her to spin her comments as being taken out of context. Or worse, they'll let her blame it on Obama.
  • Ronnie B · 1 year ago
    As to FOX News ...


    Imagine of us at JJP being in a position of management. Imagine having the power to change the format from what it is now, to a be-respectful-to-Black-people format.



    I wouldn't fire one person. I'd make them say the nicest things possible about Black people until they couldn't stomach it any more, and quit en masse.
  • Black American Princess · 1 year ago
    I emailed this cat to let him know I plan to boycott their sponsors and am encouraging everyone I know to do the same until they can Liz Trotta.


    Brian Lewis

    Executive Vice President, Corporate Communications

    FOX News

    1211 Avenue of the Americas

    New York, NY 10036

    Phone: 212-301-3000

    Fax: 212-301-8588

    E-Mail: brian.lewis@foxnews.com





    As I type this, I am in the process of suffering through Hannity and Colmes to compile a list of Fox News sponsors. I plan to contact each sponsor and tell them why I plan to boycott their products/services.



    I'll also mention the petition below to Mr. Lewis of Fox and each sponsor. Since yesterday alone, it has garnered over 6,000 signatures.



    This is the last damn straw...



    http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/fox-news-has-to-sack-liz-trotta