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" I'm rikyrah, and I'm an Obamaholic."
LOL
Yeah, I was hustling today.
Got my mother, 2 sisters, niece, aunt, uncle to each give $5 for every state won to match my $10 for every state won.
With today, Obama's gotten five donations from him in little over a month.
For the win in Iowa
For the loss in New Hampshire ( I can't even repeat my Uncle's sentiments about her fake ass tears)
For the loss in Nevada (like myself, he couldn't understand the Uncle Ruckus behavior of those HIllary tried to disenfranchie)
For the win in S. Carolina
"Ken, your mom is so kind. After seeing Michelle talk, and hearing her "tone", she reminds me of SheNehNeh from the Martin Lawrence and Tisha Campbell show -"Martin".""-----------------------------------------------------Seriously, bc you know black folk who don't worship the Clinton's have a "tone", Michelle passed the bar the first time (a feat HRC did not do hence the move and marriage in Arkansas)
After this election I hope that we are never indebted to the Democrats again! They don't respect us at all.
Any of y'all with a legal background, let's talk about filing an inquest with the Federal Election Commission. And let's make sure it's as nasty, ugly and public as possible. Transparency is the key here.
Northern Louisiana is working-class country while Southwestern Louisiana is frustrated from the neglect following Katrina. We really need to concentrate there and emphasize why Obama is their candidate. Let's get to work on it!
They were blogging on it:
http://tinyurl.com/2mr888
And then everyone should donate a few $$ to Taylor Marsh!!!
I just discovered this site 2/3 weeks ago and DEPEND on the sanity here to keep me going and my spirits UP!---------------------------------------------------------------------Can we boycott Emily's list? Where'd we get this party over country crap?
Bill Clinton in December: "you couldn’t stop me from spending all the money I’ve saved over the last five years on Hillary's campaign if I wanted to, even though it would clearly violate the spirit of campaign finance reform".
http://www.nysun.com/article/68582
Ha Ha Ha Ha! That is hysterical. How can she balance the national budget when she cannot manage her own campaign? I remember watching the news and hearing that her campaign had bought an obscene amount of shovels. I remember thinking then that that was pretty frivolous.
I will be donating today to keep the momentum going. If you know anyone who has not donated, you need to sugguest them to donate. He will be burning through money this month. He still needs to start winning consistently and then more decisively in order to avoid a brokered convention, which favors HRC. It is going to take a lot of money over the next couple of months.
Don't count her out though. She is really good at playing the victim card and has no problem using it. I am disturbed at the amount of emotional blackmail people buy into. As for Taylor Marsh, I believe she is on HRC's payroll. They discovered she was taking money from a group affiliated with the Clintons. Some people really have no shame.
People please stay focused on this super delegate issue. As most of you know, super delegates can override the popular vote of their constituency. Many of the super delegates are members of the congressional black caucus, and most support Clinton. That being said, Obama enjoys the overwhelming support of African Americans as evidence of his wins in South Carolina and Missouri. In my view it would be criminal if those super delegates within the cbc went against the popular will of those they represent. So stay on top of this issue and let your representive know that your watching.
And if all else fails, I'll be out there stumping for Old John as long as Huckabee's not the VP...
CLINTON CAMPAIGN GOING BROKE ?
Asks Campaign staffers to Work Without Pay !
February 6, 2008
Aside from losing 13 of 22 states and being behind in delegate count 838 to 834 after Super Tuesday, the Hillary Clinton Campaign has even more problems. In a report filed by Tucker Carlson of MSNBC it has been exposed that the Hillary Clinton Campaign may be in dire straits financially. The New York Post filed the following: Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton loaned her campaign $5 million from her personal bank account late last month, officials acknowledged today -- a surprising twist in the deadlocked race for the Democratic nomination.
"Late last month Sen. Clinton loaned her campaign $5 million," Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson said late yesterday, after he was first questioned about possible Clinton-self-financing in a conference call with reporters.
"The loan illustrates Sen. Clinton's commitment to this effort and to ensuring that our campaign has the resources it needs to compete and win across this nation," he added.
"We have had one of our best fundraising efforts ever on the web stoday and our Super Tuesday victories will only help in bringing more support for her candidacy."
The move came after Clinton's fundraising for January paled in comparison to rival Sen. Barack Obama's – he raised a staggering $32 million to her $13.5 million, officials said.
And the two are hunkering down for a drawn-out war of attrition over the next several weeks of primaries and caucuses, after last night's Super Tuesday battles failed to crown a clear winner.
Several people close to the campaign were unaware of the loan, sources said.
"He's got a huge advantage in that he is the Internet candidate," said one Clinton campaign source, referring to Obama's ability to raise web bucks. (end of article)
In spite of the spin the Clinton Campaign may attempt to put on this revelation, MSNBC's Carlson reported today that Clinton Campaign staffers are being asked to work without pay through the month of February including some of the higher-ups on the staff. Andrea Mitchell from MSNBC reports that the Clinton campaign mismanaged funds by over spending in Iowa which was a losing effort. We already know that she can't manage Bill but now Clinton's financial woes make some wonder, if she can't manage her campaign....how could she manage a country. Should she be trusted handling America's economy ? With money problems like these....no wonder she cried !
To donate to the Obama for President Campaign visit:
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If those delegates are seated and allowed to be counted, Barack can sue. The matter would likely be decided in court. Do we really want this to come down that?
This is something that Howard Dean needs to address right friggin' now, and he needs pressure from US to put pressure on the Clintons to see that the writing is on the wall. If Hillary wins; we walk. And the Party is finished.
It's high time we started flexing the political muscle [that some folks don't want us to know] we have.
divided as a strategy so as not to
ghettoize Obama? If all openly supported him wouldn't that make a negative headline?
Watch what happens when white women see that mean old negro Obama beating up on that poor defenseless hillary. She can't even raise any money, poor thing.
It's just how bigotry works, the reason Obama and Hillary are fighting so hard to look like the underdog is that people hate it when women or black people act like they've earned something.
The clintons are faaaarrrrr from broke,this is nothing but spin to take your attention away from two things.
1.The theft of New Mexico from Obama...who's the govenor there and why is it taking so long for the results from tuesday?
I guess they would rather lose 13-9 than 14-8 huh.
2.The pity party generated from floating this bullshit about being broke will make it easier for them to DEMAND the delegates from MI&FL;!
See these people for the scum that they are and stay focused.
Have you noticed since they came out with this broke nonsense that no one is talking about the fact that Obama beat team clinton in states and delegates on tuesday?
Clinton's supporters are more inclined to stick with the party no matter what. Obama's supporters are seeing the party for what it is ... and isn't. The more in-fighting that occurs, the better it is for Obama. Black and independent White and Asian liberals will feel further disaffected and will walk. The Dems will never win another slim majority.
Does Howard Dean want that? I don't think so.
I do have a question I want to ask everyone:
Should he accept Hillary's request to debate every week or should he be selective with the debates he does with her within the next four weeks?
Personally, I think he should debate her two times one on one on the issues (i.e. economic policies, gun control, Iraq, Security, Immigration). And, I think one of these debates should be on FOX (don't throw stones at me...lol...he needs to reach out to some of those individuals too because some of them are always saying he is not specific on issues and this would be the perfect forum to give them the specifics). That would be the compromise I would make with her in regards to these debates. I don't want him to be portrayed by her spin captains as someone who is scared to debate her. We need to take it to her but in dignified matter.
You're right; Obama should do a Fox News debate with Clinton. That would be a great place for a debate on immigration, national security, and the War on Terror.
And with that said, McCain and Huckabee should debate in a forum that would (probably) be equally hostile to them as Fox would (probaby) be to Obama/Clinton.
There is the latest crud coming out of the press about how Obama's supporters are cultish, etc. Sigh. It's always something with those people in search of another headline BUT instead of being so fervent in our support of him that we descend to their level of hate and spin, we need to keep ourselves higher than them and on track with what appeals to more and more people every day.
Character. Integrity. Peace.
HRC's people just can not win on those three points and the press and the fundies will make at least two of those points for us.
I suppose so. If Obama is the nominee, the Clinton supporters will likely fall in line. After all, this is all about business; nothing personal.
To the contrary, if Clinton gets the nomination, Obama supporters would take all this business quite personally.
If Obama wins, everyone wins. If Obama loses, everyone loses.
I agree. Enough with the debates already. They've had, what, 10?
Why not? Slug it out with Clinton for once.
cab,
Fox News doesn't need validation. And I think it would be good to see the candidates talk about things they they get softballed on in debates. Fox will beat Clinton and Obama up equally on the War on Terror and national security issues.
There have been enough debates and enough clinton speak(evading the real question,shouting over your opponent,pandering to whatever ethnic group you happen to be within 100 miles of).
What happened to their 35 years of experience?
In those 35 years did they EVER help an opponent when they were clearly down?
"GIVE ME A BREAK" to quote ol'slick willy
If it's business and nothing personal....why would Obama's supporters take it personally?
It must feel pretty damned awkward to be amongst their white conservative "peers", while Barack pretty much crushes every Black stereotype that conservatives rely upon to justify their existence.
The next time you encounter someone spouting off about experience or DEBATES,hit them with this.
Oh yeah d&dre....JUST; SAY NO TO FAUX NEWS!
Are you just an uninformed voter, or simply a HRC campaign poser willing to distort the facts? I will assume the former and give you the benefit of the doubt, but please read the following information gathered from the Library of Congress. Feel free to check these records for yourself; better still, read a little more, and try and stay current before posting assinine comments:
Clinton v. Obama on Legislative Experience:
Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term (6yrs.), and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law, (20) twenty pieces of legislation in her first six years.
These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress (www.thomas.loc.gov), but to save you trouble, I'll post them here for you:
1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty. Only five of Clinton's bills are, more substantive. 16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.
There you have it, the fact's straight from the Senate Record.
Now, I would post those of Obama's, but the list is too substantive, so I'll mainly categorize.
During the first (8) eight months of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced
233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.
His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These inculded
**the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law),
**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law),
**The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law),
**The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more.
In all since he entered the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096. An impressive record, for someone who supposedly has no legislative record. . . .
My last point: Obama needs name recognition, he needs to be among the people, so people feel like they have access to him. HRC's debate challenge is more about the fact that her campaign is running low on money and she gets free air-time without spending anything. Would you give up the chance to see 20,000 voters up close and personal to be on a televised debate? No way! Obama, stick to your guns. Debate on your terms, not Hillary's!
Go Obama 2008!
If it's business and nothing personal....why would Obama's supporters take it personally?
Because it's more than about business.
Not only did we celebrate huge victories for Hillary all over the country on Super Tuesday, but you matched our success with a breathtaking show of support.
You exceeded our $3 million goal in less than 24 hours. In fact, we've already hit FOUR MILLION DOLLARS! Incredible! And so far, more than 35,000 people -- 35,000! -- have made online contributions.
I'm simply awed to see everyone stepping up for Hillary. And boy did you pick a good time to do it! We poured our heart, our soul, and -- you better believe -- tens of millions of dollars into February 5. Now it's time to build our resources back up for what we know will be a long and hard-fought contest.
If you've been considering whether or not to give, Hillary needs you right now. The next contests for the nomination are just days away.
We have the best candidate. We have the best strategy. All we need to win are the resources to put our plan into place. And we are depending on you.
You accomplished something incredible in the last 24 hours -- $4 million contributed and 35,000 online donations. We know you can sustain our campaign when we need you the most.
Sincerely,
PSD
Patti Solis Doyle
Campaign Manager
Hillary Clinton for President
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Guess the Hillary supporters can gloat just a bit also?
All the more reason for all Obama supporters to give anything they can whether online, by phone, or mail. Dollars add up and if one has to spend 99 cents to buy a $3.01 money order then mail it in because we know Senator Obama needs and appreciates the support (props to granny who got the shout out in the SC victory speech).
Also, whoever posted the information on Hillary's "experience," thanks!!!! I just educated someone else to this ridiculous claim.
People in the beginning gave Rudy Giuliani and Hillary Clinton all this clout. Giuliani is hated in New York and far from capable of running this country. I had to deal with him as mayor of New York from for too long, hes a dictator. I'm happy he was able to prove that now its time for Hillary to follow suit.
People in the beginning gave Rudy Giuliani and Hillary Clinton all this clout. Giuliani is hated in New York and far from capable of running this country. I had to deal with him as mayor of New York for too long, hes a dictator. I'm happy he was able to prove that now its time for Hillary to follow suit.
(Giuliani better not be McCain'as running mate either)
Dont ever trust them damn clintons!!
p.s. I caught a comment from rikyrah on politico.com
check out the site some time to give your comments and show some love for Barack.
Define Is?
Clinton claims a money surge, plans ads
Terry McAuliffe told donors and reporters on a conference call that the campaign has raised $7.5 million online this month, more than $6 million of it in the last 24 hours.
The message: She's alive and kicking.
Interestingly, the campaign's spin is that Clinton's loan to the campaign -- taken by many as a sign of desperation -- was an effective fundraising tactic, encouraging people to donate.
"They said, 'I didn’t know you needed money, I thought you had all the money you need,'" McAuliffe said.
Please, Black folks, use your third eye and stop falling for this non-sense.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4257358&page;=1
As someone said earlier, we have to stay focused because the Clinton machine is powerful.
She and her man are just too much with the lies, but, then again, they had one of the most corrupt WH's next to GW Bush, so, not a big surprise there.