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Maybe Brokaw, Ifill or Moyers. They are the only ones of the stature I believe would be needed to do it justice.
Scarborough, YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!
I was watching a MTP video regarding race in the campaign where she was on the panel with Chuck Todd and others and all while Ifill was speaking about, her and Chuck kept looking at each other and speaking without speaking.
I did a little research about Russert after Bigassbelle comment on the thread about his death an discovered that while he id mostly report the news accurately and truthfully, he probably was towing the corporate line a lot of the times. His questioning about Obama regarding Farrakhan was also tacky, because the campaign had issued statements that he did not mention during the questions during the debate and he also ignored the racism that went on during the campaign and accused the Obama campaign of spreading it during one of the debates.
Bill Moyers probably doesn't want to leave PBS as he pretty much gets to do the things that interest him which might not be the case, always, at Meet the Press.
David Gregory is a possibility - yea, he danced with the Rove; but he has also showed some spine when taking on the White House.
The rest of the crew - Hell Naw!
Joe, Andrea, Copper, Blitzer, King, Brown and anyone from Fox (except for Shep) are too polarizing.
If I had too put money on it my guess is David Gregory or Nora O'Donell, two people who have never been broadcast to have a strong favoritism for either side.
I'd appreciate Moyers.
Definitely feeling you on Scarborough, and anyone who worked on Faux News.
I do like David Shuster.
Joking.
Brokaw's the only one who would probably do it justice.
David Gregory gets a thumbs-up for his ability to be tough and tenacious with the White House. He was stupid for encouraging DJ KKKarl Rove, and if he doesn't see why, then that's a strike against him.
Ed Gordon is another one of those distinguished journalists, although I don't know about his grasp of the issues of the day.
Gwen Ifill would be my choice. She's distinguished herself as a serious journalist with integrity; remains concretely objective; and (by her mere presence) would demand an accountability for diverse perspectives of news and politics.
I agree about Brokaw. No decision until after The State of the Union 2009. That should give NBC the time to assess the situation properly.
Gregory is an idiot. I loathe him.
Can't take Tweety seriously and Scarborough is a fool.
Moyers wouldn't do it, I don't think, but he's the best man for the job.
But I want Gwen or Rachel.
What about Tavis Smiley and if they fill the position from NBC ranks David Shuster is the man
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Hell to the NAW on Tavis Smiley. Tavis threw a bitch fit because Obama wouldn't appear at the SOTBU. The hateration was radiating from Tavis. What if Obama is scheduled for "Meet the Press w/Tavis Smiley" and something happens where he can't show up? You know good and well Tavis will have a fit and will try to get the fill-in guest to join in on the Obama bitchfest. NO to Tavis Smiley.
And NO to Bill O'Reilly. The man's got more spins than a washing machine. "No Spin Zone" means he gets to say whatever he wants, without consequence, while everyone else has to be brought down. No to any of the actors and clowns on Fox News with the exception of Shepard Smith.
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I don't know about that because when Ferraro was getting her Ferraro on, Rachel sat there like a bump on a log instead of challenging Ferraro. I know that she has shut people down but I think she's a little too young right now.
At first, I was wondering if ChuckyT could grow into the role, he may be too much of a "numbers guy" for Capus, Zucker & Immelt--I like Chuck.
The next moderator must be a prosecutor...a fair prosecutor. The most likely candidate is David Gregory.
@rikyrah...
Aaron Brown totally slipped my mind...but you're absolutely right. HE WOULD BE GREAT! I'm sure that the CNN Experience changed him/toughened him...he would be well suited to take the helm and maintain the show's caliber/prestige.
@town...
Tavis Smiley would have been ideal...had he not fugged up with Obama. Tavis Smiley is now NO better than a hillary-lovin CBC member trying to retain their seat in the 2008 cycle.
Let's add some NEW faces and voices to the Sunday Talking Heads chorus.
Tavis? Ehh...I'm still annoyed with him about how he treated Obama during the primary, so right now I can't co-sign on him.
Six months of guest hosts would not be a bad idea IMO were it not for the Presidential election we are in the middle of contesting...I think MTP needs to establish a brand with a new host and quickly.
Television viewers are a fickle lot and there are lots of Sunday talk shows.
Maddow is not down with women who vote against their interests and she has no problem saying so. I have no doubt if Ferraro were on Rachel's show, she would have challenged her.
My "2nd string" description didn't mean "2nd rate". It meant journalists and correspondents who make the rounds as panelists to engage the host or headliner.
Ms. Martin is indeed a talented Washington veteran. I have followed her since Nightline and This Week with George Steph.
p.s. Add Julianne Malveaux to my list.
Gwen is a lot prettier than Joe "Whatever Happended To That Intern" Scarborough. Fuck Joe.
Chris Matthews: A sexist asshole who likes to hear the sound of his own voice. Fuck him.
I think MSNBC will put a shill in the MTP spot.
Keith Olbermann needs to stay right were he is too. He's battling O'Reilly for first place and needs to help defrock the FoxNews Network once and for all...
I did not realize there was so much pent-up frustration toward Gregory...reading some of the comments makes me question the wisdom of selecting him. I once saw Gregory on Bill Maher, and was pleased with his performance.
Inspite of his Imus reactions and Karl-Rove kissin-up, i'd still place my $$$ on him being installed to the throne.
Hasn't Gregory guest-hosted MTP more than anyone else? That's the most reliable indicator of succession at NBC...and he's young and cheap, just like Russert was when he got the post.
Lastly, I highly doubt that NBC will allow it's most prestigious political franchise to go UN-helmed during what's being called, "The Most Important-Historic Political Event in the Last 50 Years."
If i'm Capus, Zucker, or Immelt, then I'm probably thinking, "Let's go with Gregory--the 'safest' choice."
If youre not familiar with Outside The Lines on ESPN you probably wouldnt know him. He's a tough journalist, who as far as I can tell isnt on either side of the political agenda.
Alot of the names mentioned save Gregory and Ifill lean Either to the right or left. Russert from what i understand was a registered independent. This doesnt mean he may have leaned, but I always thought he played it fair as one could.
Assuming he's to much of a stretch, I vote for David Gregory,
or Dan Rather. (Who got fired for BS)
david gregory has been mythologized as being tough with the white house but it's really mostly a myth. every now and then he'd ask a tough question, but for the most part, he'd then accept whatever bullshit the WH put out there with no follow up.
rachel maddow is probably the only one not dug in so deeply with the washington establishment that she could be an objective, honest interviewer. but that's precisely why she won't get it. that and that she's female and lesbian. never happen on a sunday morning ~ read establishment ~ mainstream news program.
as for joe scarborough, he's openly partisan to the republican party. i wouldn't be surprised if they chose him and that would be an awful mistake. though sometimes i think if they're open partisans, it's easier to deal with them. these alleged liberal journalists who are actually sucking up to bush & co. are the dangerous ones.
but as for scarborough's intern problem? he wasn't even in the state when she died. there's some evidence she may have fallen and hit her head on her desk, but he wasn't there and as much as i despise him, it's best to be fair.
that's a disaster for a supposed newsperson. their purpose is to inform the public, and if all of us can be sitting in our living rooms screaming the questions that they can't be bothered to ask, we're in big trouble with the media in this country.
we are. everyone knows it. and it's not the supposed liberal bias of the media, it's the fact that they've been coopted to act as a propaganda arm of the government.
notice that NONE of the major news networks has given any time to the NYT's (surprising) disclosure of the fact that they were using military experts who were corrupt.
these past generals and ex military men were being fed talking points and propaganda by the pentagon, which they disseminated on various news programs.
the effect was to make it look as if ALL military people of any seriousness supported iraq, supported bush, all of that. the fact was that the military people who DID NOT suport bush were forced out and/or fired.
but what the american people get is old soldiers ~ who we automatically believe ~ telling us lies and the news people never questioning it.
so many outrages in these desperate times. i hope we all survive long enough for someone to write the definitive history of the bush years 20 years down the road. it will be a shocker to see it all put together.
My vote goes to Rachel Maddow
Wow, we got some real programming geniuses on here.
I like the idea of redemption for Dan Rather...but you would have to atleast "offer" it to Brokaw first...and Brokaw (bless his heart) has been missing something lately...he's really been exhausted during this mourning period...yesterday, he said that the Buffalo Bills played in the Rose Bowl, i'm worried for his health too.
If you just wanted someone who is a tough mofo journalist, I'd go with any of the following:
Steve Kroft (60 Minutes)...boring
Howard Kurtz (CNN-Reliable Sources)
Bernard Goldberg (HBO Real Sports/Fox)
...wonder if Bryant Gumbel might be interested in MTP? Bryant returns to NBC...wow, that would be some wild shyt. His editorials on Real Sports are always "off-the-chain."
All of this speculation is interesting...notice how it is nearly superceding the Veepstakes...
NBC will probably give the next host (likely David Gregory) a three-year contract (through the 2010 midterm elections).
My condolences to the Russert Family...hope their not reading JJP today.
I thought about Gumbel, but your answer is the reason I didnt type him in. Him returning to NBC, esp. filling in for Russert, would be a slap in alot of faces up on 30 Rock.
Freakin' Liberal Negroes need to let it go.
T.
I definitely blame him for lending his good name to the 2001 Bush tax cuts. Greenspan did warn that the tax cuts had to be matched by spending cuts. And he was trying to give some slack to a new President. Still, I disagree with him on that one.
Other than the above, though, Alan Greenspan is one of the very few politicians I actually look up to. In fact, I would say that Greenspan and Obama are the two politicians I admire most.
Greenspan kept the economy together for almost 20 years, in the face of the craziest, wacko policies by 4 Presidents and Congresses. Working with Bill Clinton, Greenspan helped achieve budget surpluses, which nowadays seems like an impossible dream.
Keep in mind that the wacky Right Wing hates Alan Greenspan: simply because he served George W. Bush for 6 years and doesn't worship Bush like a god. Greenspan's book was respectful about all 4 presidents he served (plus the 5th President, Ford, whom he served in a different job), but he criticizes Bush politely when appropriate, and this drove the right wing crazy.
So I don't have a problem with Andrea Mitchell. From what I've seen of her, she seems perfectly intelligent, interesting, and capable.
David Gregory's current show is pretty bad. Granted, MTP would be a different format -- but I just haven't been too impressed with him as a host. Also he seems pathologucal about appearing "balanced" which I find terribly annoying. And he talks in soundbited. He just doesn't seem as bright as Russert or Todd. And don't get me wrong, I had my issues with Russert -- but he was obviously very smart.
Gern Ifil would be interesting. I give her props on the Imus thing, but I've just never found her that engaging on TV. She's very PBS, but not in the Moyers mold
I still think Todd would be the best fit for the MTP format. Also remember -- NBC's chief concern is going to be maintaining their MTP audience, so they might want to pick someone who they feel won't be a huge departure, so viewers stay. Just a thought.
Aron Brown is a good choice, but not a dynamic enough personality.
Gwen Ifill is probably the best choice if Moyers did not want to leave PBS.
The best way to fill the job would be to have guest hosts fill in for a few months and then choose who the public thinks is the best.
You also probably don't have a problem with people who fly the confederate flag either do you?
You people just can't seem to understand that the confederate flag is just a bad as flying the Swastika!