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Re: Hillary Explains Why She’s Still Running In Op Ed

babyming — Mon, 26 May 2008 20:01:00 -0000

Clinton's only hope is to stir up as many bad feelings as possible. For as long as possible. Each of us has a breaking point, when we get worn down by pain that goes on for too long. All Clinton needs is for Obama to break, just once. One mistake from Obama, one angry soundbite, could allow her to force her way onto the ticket as his VP.

There is one thing that Clinton fears the most: that America will actually get to see more of the thoroughly decent and intelligent Barack Obama.

I know it's easy for me to say and hard for him to do, but Obama has to continue to be the nice guy (which of course comes naturally to him anyway), and (alas) he simply must plan to fight both HIllary and McCain at the same time for the next 6 months.

Re: Hillary Explains Why She’s Still Running In Op Ed

Anonymous — Mon, 26 May 2008 15:59:00 -0000

Fox News, well, first off it isn't a news network, its a tool of the GOP attack machine. But, what type of sick cow would make this joke? But, then again, Hillary has, and that good old country boy Huckabee as well. And, the true test will be the way the rest of the so called msm handles it. Hillary must be jumping up with joy that its been picked up and is now an issue, her along with that man who foams at the mouth and spits at the camera who is her spokesman or whatever his title is, and keeps her lousy name in the press.

Re: Hillary Explains Why She’s Still Running In Op Ed

N. Mahana — Mon, 26 May 2008 12:19:00 -0000

Faux News should be shut down. Advocating assasination, live on the air then laughing about it is absolutely repulsive and CRIMINAL!

Re: Hillary Explains Why She’s Still Running In Op Ed

rikyrah — Mon, 26 May 2008 11:15:00 -0000

She'd understand that allowing this to fester only raises the threat towards Obama's security. . . even the security of his wife and children.

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AT this point I'm more concerned about Michelle and the girls' safety. If anything happened to them, that would be the one thing that would set Sen. Obama off.

I agree. Anything happening to his family is the one thing that I believe would finally bring out 'The Angry Black Man'.

Re: Hillary Explains Why She’s Still Running In Op Ed

jelana — Mon, 26 May 2008 10:51:00 -0000

If she were a decent person, she'd realize that this isn't really about her. She'd do everything in her power to dispel such evil thoughts. She'd understand that allowing this to fester only raises the threat towards Obama's security. . . even the security of his wife and children.
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That's just it---she's NOT a decent

person. I am TRULY convinced that she and Bill are sociopaths. They

should be thankful Obama more or less gave her a pass. At the very least they should have dropped the subject in it's entirety! Instead,

they place the blame on him. It is generally considered smart to go on the offense politically, but this is so much more than that.

Re: Hillary Explains Why She’s Still Running In Op Ed

Anonymous — Mon, 26 May 2008 10:25:00 -0000

She is still in because she is a maniacal, egomaniac, acting like a bad Joan Crawford movie of a woman on the verge of losing her sense of entitlement that it was hers and her alone.

Re: Hillary Explains Why She’s Still Running In Op Ed

Anonymous — Mon, 26 May 2008 10:15:00 -0000

Re: Hillary Explains Why She’s Still Running In Op Ed

B-Serious — Mon, 26 May 2008 10:10:00 -0000

Four days later and I've yet to hear one person give a reasonable explaination for Hillary's comment.

Every excuse given on her behalf involves somehow getting into Hillary's head and understanding her soul in such a way that would never allow for her to think such evil thoughts.

Only problem is her WORDS spoke of said evil thoughts. This was not the first time she's said such evil thoughts. Her slogan, "anything can happen" is consistent with such evil thoughts. And her refusal to appologize to Obama (or recognize the serious threat this poses to his safety) gives the impression that she doesn't care whether such evil thoughts have deadly consequences for Obama and his family.

If she were a decent person, she'd realize that this isn't really about her. She'd do everything in her power to dispel such evil thoughts. She'd understand that allowing this to fester only raises the threat towards Obama's security. . . even the security of his wife and children.

Instead she keeps fanning the flames. She can't see beyond herself at this point. She gives the impression that nothing. . . not even death itself, is more important to her than self-pity. No, she does everything in her power to keep the focus on her and her victimology.

She blames Obama for her words. . .

She refuses to apologize. . .

She, once again, paints herself as the victim.

She still doesn't get it. It's not a matter of intent, but effect. The effect of her statement made the idea of assassination a common theme in our national discourse over the past four days. She started the conversation. Regardless of intent, she should see it as her responsibility to end it.

Re: Hillary Explains Why She’s Still Running In Op Ed

jelana — Mon, 26 May 2008 09:58:00 -0000

It's also notable that she first mentions 1980,1984, 1988, and 1992 and then comes up with 1968!

Re: Hillary Explains Why She’s Still Running In Op Ed

Anonymous — Mon, 26 May 2008 09:52:00 -0000

Black Americans, and many of all races are EXTREMELY disturbed by Hillary's insinuation of a possible assassination of Barack Obama. To imply that her reason for staying in the race is because anything can happen, then nonchalantly say that even Robert Kennedy was assassinated in June, meaning therefore she should stay in, is not only pitifully diobolical but incredibly dangerous.

As I read some of the comments, I sense that some do not understand the true impact of her deadly insinuation. Keep in mind, when it was first announced that Obama was running for President, the initial concern in Black America was his safety. "Would some nut sniper him"? Obama had to hire secret service security right out of the gate.....why? Because of the true possibilty of some nut doing harm to him or his family.

Also, during the last 50 years, the people who have been assassinated have ALL been leaders who were working toward equality for ALL. John F., Robert and of course Dr. King. So just the WORD assassination brings to us not only an extreme fear but is a reminder of the incredibly sad loss to America, particularly Blacks, at the hands of the sick and wicked. For Hillary Clinton, a so-called leader, to insinuate, for WHATEVER reason assassination....is beyond disgusting. It subliminally sparks the hatred, bigotry and destruction that most Americans have worked so hard to overcome.

Greg Jones

www.Blacks4Barack.org

A Multi-Racial Org...Dedicated To Truth !

Re: Hillary Explains Why She’s Still Running In Op Ed

nezua — Mon, 26 May 2008 09:49:00 -0000

The Clintons sicken me. Whine, Subterfuge, Pose and Whine. What a fresh breeze will blow the day they bow out.

Re: Hillary Explains Why She’s Still Running In Op Ed

B-Serious — Mon, 26 May 2008 08:38:00 -0000

It's funny how Hillary's "A-word" gaffe came right in the middle of another one of her self-pity sessions.

Re: Hillary Explains Why She’s Still Running In Op Ed

transcript readily available — Mon, 26 May 2008 01:36:00 -0000

EB: The reports this morning and overnight were that your campaign had made certain contacts or overtures to Mr. Obama's campaign just in the past 24 hours and were working on some sort of deal for your exit.

CLINTON: That's flatly untrue. Flatly, completely untrue.

EB: No discussions at all.

CLINTON: No discussions at all. At all. Now I can't speak for the 17 million people who voted for me, and I have a lot of supporters. But it is flatly untrue, and it is not anything that I am entertaining. It is nothing I have planned. It is nothing that I am prepared to engage in. I am still vigorously campaigning. I am happy to be here. Looking forward to campaigning here. Going to Puerto Rice tomorrow and I expect to be back here before the election. But this is part of an ongoing effort to end this before it's over. I am very heartened by the strong support that I've shown in Kentucky and West Virginia just in the last two weeks. They sure don't think it's over. I don't think the people who are here in South Dakota looking forward to vote think it's over and I sure don't think it's over. Neither of us has the number of delegates needed to be the nominee and every time they declare it, doesn't make it so. Neither of us do. I've never seen anything like this. I have, perhaps, a long enough memory that many people who finished a rather distant second behind nominees went all the way to the convention. I remember very well 1980, 1984, 1988, 1992, where some who had contested in the primaries were determined to carry their case to the convention. I'm ahead in the popular vote. Less than 200 delegates separate us out of 4,400. Michigan and Florida are not resolved. No one has the nomination, so I would look to the camp of my opponent for the source of those stories.

EB: Well, I was just going to ask, one presumes that's where it originates.

CLINTON: I would think so. But that's been the pattern for quite some time now. Honestly, I just believe that this is the most important job in the world, it's the toughest job in the world. You should be willing to campaign for every vote. You should be willing to debate anytime, anywhere. I think it's an interesting juxtaposition where we find ourselves. I have been willing to do all of that during the entire process and people have been trying to push me out of this ever since Iowa.

EB: Why?

CLINTON: I don't know. I don't know. I find it curious because it is unprecedented in history. I don't understand it. Between my opponent and his camp and some in the media there has been this urgency to end this. Historically, that makes no sense, so I find it a bit of a mystery.

EB: You don't buy the party unity argument?

CLINTON: I don't because, again, I've been around long enough. You know my husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. You know, I just don't understand it and there's lot of speculation about why it is, but . . .

EB: What's your speculation?

CLINTON: You know, I don't know, I find it curious and I don't want to attribute motives or strategies to people because I don't really know, but it's a historical curiosity to me.

EB: Does it have anything to do with gender?

CLINTON: I don't know that either.

Re: Hillary Explains Why She’s Still Running In Op Ed

Anonymous — Mon, 26 May 2008 01:20:00 -0000

I think Obama's hands off approach to Hillary has led her on. If he'd come down hard on her from the very beginning she wouldnt be around today wishfully hinting that BO may be assasinated. There's just so much disrespect a man can take. Sometimes putting your foot down and saying: Im not taking this shit from you or anybody, can be a good thing.

Re: Hillary Explains Why She’s Still Running In Op Ed

Anonymous — Sun, 25 May 2008 23:49:00 -0000

Anytime Bill or Hillary say something about what Obama did, they are telling what THEY did to Obama:

Bill Clinton: I have never seen anyone be so disrespected just for running (talking about Hillary).

Yet Billary and their cronies have constantly disrespected Obama for running since day one!

I guess that's what "Ready on Day One" really means: ready to act like a crazed 2 year old if they don't get their way.

Re: Hillary Explains Why She’s Still Running In Op Ed

Anonymous — Sun, 25 May 2008 23:46:00 -0000

The Clintons are definitely unhinged...as in mentally unstable at this point. And yes I mean that literally.

The Clintons are now the classical definition of evil: they care only for themselves and are willing to destroy others.

It's time to vomit them out and shut down her campaign. At this point all they do is lie and insult our intelligence.

Re: Hillary Explains Why She’s Still Running In Op Ed

Admiral Komack — Sun, 25 May 2008 22:40:00 -0000

Senator Clinton Still Calling for a Debate

http://blogs.abcnews.com/po...

May 25, 2008 5:32 PM

ABC News' Eloise Harper reports: Since the Pennsylvania primary Sen. Hillary Clinton has been calling for a debate with her opponent, Sen. Barack Obama.

She continued her plea in Penuelas, Puerto Rico, standing outside a restaurant while less than 100 people gathered on a dirt walkway. Obama has rebuffed these requests and has instead begun campaigning in states that would be important for him in the general election if he becomes the Democratic presidential nominee.

"I was informed that Univision will sponsor a debate between Sen. Obama and myself about the issues affecting Puerto Rico," Clinton said. "I accept that invitation. Anytime, anywhere. That is the best way for the people of Puerto Rico to have their questions asked and answered and for the rest of the United States to learn more about Puerto Rico."

Clinton reiterated her claim that she feels as though she has been a senator for Puerto Rico, because she represents so many of then in New York.

"I feel as though I have been your senator and now I want to be your president," she said.

Re: Hillary Explains Why She’s Still Running In Op Ed

Anonymous — Sun, 25 May 2008 22:14:00 -0000

Two things:

First, Hillary continues to say that Bill didn't wrap up the nomination until June of 1992. WRONG. After he won the New York Primary in March, the race was practically over. Jerry Brown was far behind him in delegates and Paul Tsongas dropped out.

As for Hillary being "disrespected," Bill, you could earn a degree in disrespecting Hillary. Does Gennifer Flowers and a semen-stained dress mean anything to you, hello?

Re: Hillary Explains Why She’s Still Running In Op Ed

Kat — Sun, 25 May 2008 21:47:00 -0000

If anyone can speak authoritatively on disrespecting Hillary Clinton, its Bill.

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smoothie — Sun, 25 May 2008 21:35:00 -0000

David Schuster not only got sat down, but had to come on air and apologize for saying that Chelsea was "being pimped out"

I wander if Fox plans on doing the same or something similar to Liz Trotta??

What pisses me off about it is the flippant nature inthe way she said it. I couldnt agree more with earlier comments to blow this up.

A. It shines a light on Fox for being the shallow bunch of right wing racist they are.

B. It keeps negative press on Hillary.

Bitter was dropped on a friday and still haunts Barack a month later.

Maybe this will be her bitter.

Re: Hillary Explains Why She’s Still Running In Op Ed

The Christian Progressive Libe — Sun, 25 May 2008 21:28:00 -0000

And I still call BS on that Op-Ed piece, and the whole shebangabang.

What was missing from that Op-ED:

A DAMNED APOLOGY TO THE OBAMA FAMILY, THAT'S WHAT'S MISSING.

And until she does that, she can drink six packs of STHU.

Re: Hillary Explains Why She’s Still Running In Op Ed

Felicia — Sun, 25 May 2008 21:06:00 -0000

Mike Gravel and Ron Paul are still running, too. Hillary can run as long as she likes--as long as she can find kids who'll sell their bikes and video games. The question becomes: will anybody care that she's still running?

Re: Hillary Explains Why She’s Still Running In Op Ed

Town — Sun, 25 May 2008 21:03:00 -0000

Hillary needs to take an ExLax and let it go.

First off, her statements are apples and oranges:

My husband didn't have the nomination wrapped up until June

vs

Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June.

The two statements have nothing to do with one another, so when people are confused about what you're trying to say, they're gonna go with the first thing that pops into their minds, which is

Hillary Clinton is staying in the race in case somebody assassinates Obama.

That's the only way her two statements make sense. And when people think further about the '68 election, the Democrats lost that year to Nixon.

I've just learned that with Hillary, whatever is the opposite of what she says is what she means. (Or as some people say, if her lips are moving, she's lying).

She's claiming she's staying to "unify" the Democratic party...how can she "unify" when all she's been doing since January is dividing:

Blacks vs. whites

Blacks vs. Latinos

Blue Collar Whites vs. Elite Whites

Hard working whites vs. everyone else

Blacks & Eggheads vs. lunch bucket whites

Men vs. women

PA, OH, WY, KY, FL & MI vs. the rest of the states

Ok, Hellary, sit your wide ass down!

Re: Hillary Explains Why She’s Still Running In Op Ed

heartsandflowers — Sun, 25 May 2008 20:46:00 -0000

There's the Rules Committee meeting coming up. Is anyone from the Left Coast attending? I want to know how fair any ruling will be when 13 of the 30 members are known Hillbots. She's obviously planning on taking it to the Convention. I'm not sure that having the super delegates come out for Obama on June 3rd or 4th will be enough.

Re: Hillary Explains Why She’s Still Running In Op Ed

Angela — Sun, 25 May 2008 20:41:00 -0000

The Secret Service and our prayers.

from the NYT

"As Senator Barack Obama's rallies have swelled in size, his security has increased, coming close to rivaling that given to a sitting president. This Secret Service agent never took his eyes off the crowd during a rally in Orangeburg, S.C.

Photo: Damon Winter/The New York Times