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If, according to you, I shouldn't support Barack Obama just because he's Black, then why should I support Hillary Clinton just because she's a Democrat?
But, I feel your pain for real.
The Democratic party can sit and spin on this one.
Black people have never (and some would argue will never) have it good in this system no matter what party is in charge.
This government has laws on the books to disenfranchise us and the Democratic party has done little to nothing to change those laws.
All we are to them are political pawns.
So I totally agree. If I do deign to vote-it will be for Nader.
I was a registered Independent and will go back to being one after this shambles of an election is over.
But beware. Don't get painted as "angry black" folk. You know that's why they do it. I have no problem with passion, but don't fall for the trap. The point of race-baiting is to get inside your head. Don't let them do it. It can be counterproductive.
How many passes does she get?
Respectfully, I know both groups have their differences. And I'm not advocating that we put on blinders and ignore the issues that we have. But, at the end of the day, the black/brown coalition is something that we should work towards. If they're voting, then they're just as American as you or I. Shippin them back accross the boarder is like having them say that we should go back to Africa.
I understand that Hillary has done some messed up things. But let's keep the focus . . .channel that energy to beat Hillary in this primary season and do your best to take back the Democratic party.
Don't buy that "Good for the party" crap.
- KXB
I posted this on Kos. I cannot bring myself to vote for her. I will vote for every other Democrat on the ticket and even fork over a few bones to a few of the candidates.
Hillary Clinton can go straight to Hell for her racism.
Fortunately, I don't think it will be an issue as Senator Obama will be the nominee in all likelihood.
Now, does that mean that the Superdelegates can't go for her. Obviously they still can in theory but the Democratic Party leadership has made it clear they won't allow this to happen.
Honestly, at this point I think what no one has reallized is that Hillary knows she's lost. What she's doing is trying to put Obama in a position where he has two choices, either make her VP or endure a bloody floor battle on the floor of the convention which he will win, but will leave him damaged.
Hopefully, Obama won't go this route.
I feel perfectly comfortable with my decision not to vote for the Democratic nominee should that person turn out to be HRC. I have followed this race very closely, and watched with anger and disbelief as HRC says that she would not want to inject race or gender into this campaign, then proceeds to play both her gender and Obama's race like a f***ing fiddle. I know it's not over, and that Obama has a good delegate lead, but so much that has passed in recent days makes me so disappointed in my fellow Americans--their willingness to fall for Hillary's fear tactics and outright LIES, the media's bias TOWARD HRC, their negative treatment of Michelle Obama (can't handle a sista!), the unwillingness of so many Latinos to vote for a Black man--I could go on and on. I fear this election is bringing out years of surpressed black rage in me. Does this count as group therapy?
Also, don't write off the Latino vote to racism. I don't understand why, but I think Latinos are genuinely fired up by Clinton. It doesn't make sense that people would come out in much higher levels than normal just to vote against somebody out of racism. In any rate, we are going to need them to vote for Obama come November.
Obama has built a great ground campaign - now that campaign needs to figure out how to communicate to the less educated, poorer sections of the party. So much of his support has come from the educated and we simply run in different circles. We need to expand our circles.
It seems like a lot of people these days think that cynicism is a sign of intelligence. It is not. It is intelligent to be skeptical, to question, but not to be cynical. Cynicism shows lack of creativity and imagination - key components in intelligence.
Obama's campaign believed that a bottom up campaign featuring a new comer could take down one of the strongest political families in history. The cynics said this wasn't possible. And you know what? They are wrong. He is still ahead in votes and will be by the time the convention arrives. More than 1 million people have contributed to his campaign and he has a generation of young people ready to work for him in the fall. How did he do that - by being positive and offering hope. Stay positive folks. This is just a minor setback.
Jesse Jackson? Since when has he had any credibility, other than getting money in his pockets?
party unity? Voting for HRC would akin to voting for Trent Lott, George Wallace or Strom Thurman. So,no sorry, if she is the nominee, life goes on as it has the past 8 years, with a useless GOP led government which has made it clear, black Americans aren't welcomed, or just about anyone not white, so, I won't vote for her. She has made Obama come off as if he were Willie Horton in states where she knew it would work, and, sorry, that is lame, unethical, and shows just who she is as a person.
At this point, anybody but Hillary Clinton!
I don't want nobody to give me nothing. Open up the door and I'll get it myself".
We need to get off our knees and walk proudly. If black folks can survive Nixon, Reagan, Bush I and Dubya, we can survive McCain. I just hate that our sons and daughters serving in Iraq will probably be there for 100 years, trillions of tax dollars will be spent in Iraq and the Katrina survivors will never get home again, not to mention Scooter Libby/Jena justice.
Oh, and by the way, Obama cannot get dirty with his attacks. But the internet can. Marc Rich. Google him. Pardon for sale. Donated huge $$ to Clinton Library. His lawyer? Scooter Libby. We can be the attack dogs.
I feel your frustration. As an African immigrant, I strongly believe that latinos, Asians and "newer" immigrants from Africa owe so much to African-Americans. Most of the civil-rights and other rights we now take for granted were obtained because African-Americans were willing to make hard sacrifices and be vilified by the rest of the country to obtain these rights. It would be nice if other ethnic minorites in this country acknowledged this fact.
Junglecat
I agree. That look on her face and in her eyes the day after Dodd had what he called an "uncomfortable" phonecall with her.(when he endorsed Obama)....I just had a feeling something ugly went down. That's when she took on a robotic monotone and said she was just getting warmed up with the attacks. She is fighting for her life but trying to make everyone think she has him on the ropes to eke out every last vote she can get to improve her position.
I have always been mystified by the black community's embrace of the Clintons when they have thrown us under the bus at every opportunity (Sister Souljah, Lani Guinier, Haitian refugees, Joycelyn Elders, the list goes on). I guess it's better late than never that folks are starting to open their eyes.
As far as Miss Hillary, voting for her in 08 was never an option for me. She's an opportunist who wouldn't know a principle if it jumped up and bit her in the a**. Seeing her actions in the last few weeks has only reinforced that.
I haven't voted for a Democratic presidential candidate since Dukakis, but if Obama is able to survive this I will gladly pull the lever for him. Otherwise it's Nader or McKinney for me.
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Pray.
Campaign for Obama in the remaining states in person, over the phone or both.
Pray.
Whatever will be will be.
And no I don't think Hillary gives a rat's ass about us.
She's proven that to many times in the last few months.
Now that woman is fierce.
"I found this blog a few weeks ago and I can definitely say that it's the first one that is in sync with where I am politically." ***DITTO!!
Oh by the way, SC Democratic Party leader Carol Fowler (one of our state's 8 superdelegates) endorsed Obama yesterday.
This is not necessarily generational. There are radicals in their 80s who find Obama to be too corporate. They are to your left. Perhaps your mother and aunt have made a political calculation that 8 years of Hillary might be better than 8 years more of a 12 billion dollar a month war. Or a war with Iran. Maybe they care about all of the black children too poor to have a computer in the home (or good health care) more than the treatment that Harvard educated Sen. Obama has received. Obama will be fine--will they?
You need to check your tone. Here you are attacking the terrible treatment Obama is receiving yet look at your lack of respect for John Lewis, a man who risked his life--his very life--to further your advancement, our advancement. I agree that we need a smart way of dealing with Hillary. But dissing your "Negro" mother completely undermines your supposed desire for garnering respect for Obama. Why don't you start by respecting your "black" mother.
@NMP, I don't think your comment is helpful. There are a lot of Latinos who do support Obama and lumping them all in as one, or even assuming they're not all Americans is pretty shameless. We're not Republicans and don't think in stark terms like that. b-serious is right regarding the black/brown coalition. As these dinosaurs who've kept us separate for so long are finally retiring, this group is strenghtening it's ties. It's tentative, but even here in LA where there's always been some tension, you can see that falling away.
In Barack Obama, the Democratic Party finally has the opportunity to offer up to the country and the world, the epitome of what the Party holds itself out to be. A man with brilliance, astounding vision, superior intellect, family values, and a grasp on political policy that is matched by few. And he happens to be Black.
Yet here we are at the precipice of making that a reality, and the Democratic Party is content to watch this man be thrown under the proverbial bus in exchange for a lesser candidate and poor leader. A Democratic Party that apparently doesn't believe in doing what's best for the country.
The way that the Party is treating Mr. Obama, they can no longer speak with credibility when asking for the wealthy to sacrifice for the good of the country.
They won't even sacrifice for the good of their own party.
I am an attorney and have a friend who started a Latina PAC a while ago. I'd be willing to put some time into researching the logistics of putting something like this together in a legitimate way. And I'd certainly be willing to donate some of my own money.
So, what do you all think? Are there any finance/ accounting/ business folks/ active retirees and supporters of JJ politics out there who are willing to throw down and make something happen?
2. Obama supporters need to double down and work harder
I will be singing, "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" at some point this summer.
I like to act as well. My voice is almost gone from all the phone calls I made to Texas and Ohio.
My sentiments exactly. I too have watched closely and see it all for what it is. I can't believe he truths that this election has exposed-both good and bad, very bad.
I have experienced anger and frustration as I never have before.
I agree with you-not only is she fierce, but she is intelligent and strong on foreign policy.
She can hold her own in a discussion and defend her candidate without pause.
I hope the DNC can hear that.
I like the idea. The PACs might be a little tough for this particular election, but might will be a necessity going forward. The rapid response team is also a great idea. In short, organization is going to be the key. For better or worse, the Democratic Party offered some infrastructure, but we'll just have to build our own foundation. We'll get more respect that way.