Jack and Jill Politics - Latest Comments in I am BLACK

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Ronnie B — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:56:00 -0000

mj~

I like the idea. The PACs might be a little tough for this particular election, but might will be a necessity going forward. The rapid response team is also a great idea. In short, organization is going to be the key. For better or worse, the Democratic Party offered some infrastructure, but we'll just have to build our own foundation. We'll get more respect that way.

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Ms.Martin — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:51:00 -0000

I just saw a CNN political team dicussing the black vote. They were discussing the responses on the blogs and figuring the numbers and how it would work if the black vote sat out for the general.

I hope the DNC can hear that.

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Ms.Martin — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:29:00 -0000

Hickman:

I agree with you-not only is she fierce, but she is intelligent and strong on foreign policy.

She can hold her own in a discussion and defend her candidate without pause.

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Ms.Martin — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:20:00 -0000

@ Bryllynt:

My sentiments exactly. I too have watched closely and see it all for what it is. I can't believe he truths that this election has exposed-both good and bad, very bad.

I have experienced anger and frustration as I never have before.

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Craig Hickman — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:37:00 -0000

mj, Obama's campaign isn't trying to accept money from PACs, as far as I'm aware. But that doesn't mean we can't donate individually and try to initiate ideas 2 and 3 on your list.

I like to act as well. My voice is almost gone from all the phone calls I made to Texas and Ohio.

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Nita — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:34:00 -0000

Rikyrah, the troll police didn't try to autoban your past comments for that comment, did they? I saw it last night. gbc2 or whomever trollrated you. if I weren't already autobanned myself i would have said something in that thread.

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michelle — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:22:00 -0000

Calling Clinton a "heifer" and "witch" is pretty minor. No one here is attacking her for being a woman. These are pretty mild epithets, not even approaching the same level of racist fear-mongering and voter shenanigans that HRC tried to get away with. Blogs like J&J; are a huge reason why she hasn't been completely successful in this line of attack.

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danielle — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:55:00 -0000

Great. So lets all trade racism for misogyny. This will get us 4 more years of the same. Way to go JandJ

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JJ — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:50:00 -0000

1 Hell NO HRC will NPT get my vote

2. Obama supporters need to double down and work harder

I will be singing, "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" at some point this summer.

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mj — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:40:00 -0000

Why don't we move from thoughts to action? I am thinking that we can begin to use this platform to: (1) organize a PAC that will allow us to put our money where our mouths are and support Obama as a bloc; (2) organize a letter writing campaign to MSM and blogs voicing our collective outrage; and (3) forming an online rapid response team to counter the crap load of lies and assaults that will soon be coming Obama's way.

I am an attorney and have a friend who started a Latina PAC a while ago. I'd be willing to put some time into researching the logistics of putting something like this together in a legitimate way. And I'd certainly be willing to donate some of my own money.

So, what do you all think? Are there any finance/ accounting/ business folks/ active retirees and supporters of JJ politics out there who are willing to throw down and make something happen?

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Ronnie B — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:36:00 -0000

Just a thought about the Democratic Party.

In Barack Obama, the Democratic Party finally has the opportunity to offer up to the country and the world, the epitome of what the Party holds itself out to be. A man with brilliance, astounding vision, superior intellect, family values, and a grasp on political policy that is matched by few. And he happens to be Black.

Yet here we are at the precipice of making that a reality, and the Democratic Party is content to watch this man be thrown under the proverbial bus in exchange for a lesser candidate and poor leader. A Democratic Party that apparently doesn't believe in doing what's best for the country.

The way that the Party is treating Mr. Obama, they can no longer speak with credibility when asking for the wealthy to sacrifice for the good of the country.

They won't even sacrifice for the good of their own party.

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faboomama.com — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:31:00 -0000

Most of you already know that I and many of my friends, family and acquaintances also won't vote for Clinton if she gets the nomination.

@NMP, I don't think your comment is helpful. There are a lot of Latinos who do support Obama and lumping them all in as one, or even assuming they're not all Americans is pretty shameless. We're not Republicans and don't think in stark terms like that. b-serious is right regarding the black/brown coalition. As these dinosaurs who've kept us separate for so long are finally retiring, this group is strenghtening it's ties. It's tentative, but even here in LA where there's always been some tension, you can see that falling away.

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Anonymous — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:13:00 -0000

This post is ahistorical. I don't know how old you are but have you ever read David Walker or Maria Stewart from the 1820s-30s?! You should read them. They were braver and stronger than you are I could ever dream of being.

This is not necessarily generational. There are radicals in their 80s who find Obama to be too corporate. They are to your left. Perhaps your mother and aunt have made a political calculation that 8 years of Hillary might be better than 8 years more of a 12 billion dollar a month war. Or a war with Iran. Maybe they care about all of the black children too poor to have a computer in the home (or good health care) more than the treatment that Harvard educated Sen. Obama has received. Obama will be fine--will they?

You need to check your tone. Here you are attacking the terrible treatment Obama is receiving yet look at your lack of respect for John Lewis, a man who risked his life--his very life--to further your advancement, our advancement. I agree that we need a smart way of dealing with Hillary. But dissing your "Negro" mother completely undermines your supposed desire for garnering respect for Obama. Why don't you start by respecting your "black" mother.

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Mona — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:10:00 -0000

Rikyrah, it's like you took my thoughts out of my head and put them on a blog. I am so through with HRC's campaign tactics. This woman CANNOT get the nomination. I will seriously reconsider my party affiliation if this happens.

"I found this blog a few weeks ago and I can definitely say that it's the first one that is in sync with where I am politically." ***DITTO!!

Oh by the way, SC Democratic Party leader Carol Fowler (one of our state's 8 superdelegates) endorsed Obama yesterday.

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Anonymous — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:40:00 -0000

HRC is running for her own ego, I don't buy the crap about caring so much about the country. Is this how someone acts who actually cares what happens in 08? She is the woman scorned and hell hath no fury etc.

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marc — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:32:00 -0000

what a pride, rikyrah!

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Craig Hickman — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:23:00 -0000

Susan Rice for Obama's runningmate!!!

Now that woman is fierce.

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Baltogeek — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:21:00 -0000

If she manages to steal the nomination the black exodus from the Democratic party will be THE story of the election.

And no I don't think Hillary gives a rat's ass about us.

She's proven that to many times in the last few months.

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Anonymous — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:01:00 -0000

I wonder if she and her staff realizes that she has created a huge disconnect with black voters after all her insults and race baiting, that the Democrats usually take for granted? And, I mean to the point that many won't bother voting for her. I would love to ask her and her staffers and find out that. If, McCain had a clue, which he is too old to have, he would be trying to make inroads with the black voters, but, then again, he like Bush and the rest of the GOP does not need or want black voters, so, we get stuck getting insulted by the ilk of tag team Clinton.

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Craig Hickman — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:57:00 -0000

"I worry about my reproductive rights. This election has me so torn, i really don't know what to do."

::

Pray.

Campaign for Obama in the remaining states in person, over the phone or both.

Pray.

Whatever will be will be.

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Anonymous — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:53:00 -0000

I found this blog a few weeks ago and I can definitely say that it's the first one that is in sync with where I am politically.

I have always been mystified by the black community's embrace of the Clintons when they have thrown us under the bus at every opportunity (Sister Souljah, Lani Guinier, Haitian refugees, Joycelyn Elders, the list goes on). I guess it's better late than never that folks are starting to open their eyes.

As far as Miss Hillary, voting for her in 08 was never an option for me. She's an opportunist who wouldn't know a principle if it jumped up and bit her in the a**. Seeing her actions in the last few weeks has only reinforced that.

I haven't voted for a Democratic presidential candidate since Dukakis, but if Obama is able to survive this I will gladly pull the lever for him. Otherwise it's Nader or McKinney for me.

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TruthSeeker — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:46:00 -0000

@ Ibn Warraq

I agree. That look on her face and in her eyes the day after Dodd had what he called an "uncomfortable" phonecall with her.(when he endorsed Obama)....I just had a feeling something ugly went down. That's when she took on a robotic monotone and said she was just getting warmed up with the attacks. She is fighting for her life but trying to make everyone think she has him on the ropes to eke out every last vote she can get to improve her position.

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Anonymous — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:44:00 -0000

At nmp:

I feel your frustration. As an African immigrant, I strongly believe that latinos, Asians and "newer" immigrants from Africa owe so much to African-Americans. Most of the civil-rights and other rights we now take for granted were obtained because African-Americans were willing to make hard sacrifices and be vilified by the rest of the country to obtain these rights. It would be nice if other ethnic minorites in this country acknowledged this fact.

Junglecat

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Anonymous — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:43:00 -0000

A couple of weeks ago I watched Tina Fey blatantly solicit Texas and Ohio Democrats to vote for Hillary Clinton on “Saturday Night Live’s” first episode after the writers’ strike. I thought, that does not seem fair without some sort of equal time given to soliciting votes for Barack Obama. Days later, Clinton incorporates in her campaign what SNL had implied about reporters being soft on questioning Obama. The following week and a couple of days before the primaries, she makes a surprise appearance on SNL. Again, that seemed unfair – Clinton using a comedic venue to suck away youthful support for Obama, at least, without giving him equal opportunity. Ironically, she had in the past vowed never to appear on SNL due to some slight she apparently suffered. But the worst of it came when I recently revisited the Tina Fey plea on YouTube and realized what she actually had said at the close of the skit: It’s not too late Texas and Ohio, “B*tch is the new Black!” What an outrage! I just can’t expressed how disgusted I feel about that one statement from this pea-brained twit that so trivialized what Black people have suffered throughout the history of this country. “B*tch is the new Black??” Clearly, this clown Tina Fey has never viewed the outrageous fotos of lynching of black people and other atrocities that have taken place, or she would not be so quick to make such an equation. Unfortunately, the phrase is being picked up all over the net. And the results of the Texas, Ohio voting speaks for itself. Clinton’s “Spin to Win” campaign is now in full swing.

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Tami — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:37:00 -0000

You know, I have said over the last several months that I would support the Dem candidate, whoever it was. In fact, I said it on my blog today. But it doesn't feel right. I have lost all respect for the Clintons. Their behavior ought not be rewarded. But I also worry about having a Republican, even an allegedly liberal one, in the White House. I worry about the war. I worry about my reproductive rights. This election has me so torn, i really don't know what to do.