Jack and Jill Politics - Latest Comments in Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

Re: Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

kalagenesis — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 01:33:28 -0000

You are 100% correct very good!

Re: Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

laura — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:45:49 -0000

No, Steele is not Uncle Ruckus. Steele is a tragic mulatto --he is Peola. He is biracial He is cursed because of his black blood. He is bounded to his race. For him he can not claim his whiteness to be a part of the superior race.

Re: Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

Nita — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:11:51 -0000

That's a unique way of putting that, RonnieB. What you and D said bears thinking about, more deeply, together.

Re: Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

Nita — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:10:29 -0000

i did not know that. clicked google, he's a couple genes in the face away from running away and ernestly claiming to be mexican or italian. i almost feel bad for him. and then i read this over at google:

Chicago Tribune, reviewed Steele's book[5] and disagreed with his analysis of Obama noting that:

"[as] I read his essay, I found myself thinking that Steele was trapped in a time warp, that his knowledge of the currents of thought and attitude among black people stopped sometime around 1990. Less charitably, I found myself thinking that the egregious Al Sharpton is not the only one with an investment in a static view of American race relations....It apparently never occurs to Steele that for a man a generation younger than himself the terms of blackness might be different, that the “totalitarian” demands he [Steele] encountered in the ’60s might no longer prevail, that Barack Obama’s mixed-race experience might actually be different than Shelby Steele’s."[5]

and where Steele is coming from makes a little more sense, now (and off topic, I like the bonus smack against Al Sharpton).

Re: Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

Nita — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:01:28 -0000

oh my god... thank you guys for the laughs this weekend. what was shelby's real intent, again, since it obviously came out wrong. right?

Re: Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

Coby_D — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:50:04 -0000

Fear not, msmartin, I'm just not that into you either.

:-)

Re: Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

msmartin — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:36:54 -0000

And that's all folks!

Re: Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

msmartin — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:36:13 -0000

Shelby Steele has a white mother. I wonder exactly what she taught him growing up.

Re: Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

msmartin — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:29:16 -0000

There is no appropriate person or manner to suggest that whites show more morality by being less racist. No congratulations are in order and you continue to amaze with you ineptness.

You misspeled eloquently.

Re: Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

msmartin — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:22:07 -0000

I understood you perfectly. My point is that it takes great morality and strenghth to ignore what has been done to minorities even more so than the whites you claim are mending the racists ways.

Re: Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

jelana — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:08:41 -0000

In truth, they have not actually improved. In the last 40 years, SOME of the hardcore racists have simply died.

Re: Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

PTCruiser — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:54:50 -0000

Folks, we have to understand that Shelby Steele is including himself in that category. He is thinking about his children who have a white mother and who will probably have non-black spouses if they marry. His comment is not about us and is not directed toward us. He is thinking about their future and the future of his non-black grandchildren. Steele, in effect, is trying to pad their legacy as white Americans.

Re: Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

Coby_D — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:31:05 -0000

My biggest problem with this is that an apologist like Steele shouldn't have said it.

If a Powell-or an unknown Obama-would've said it, it would have been alright. You might not have agreed, but would have seen what he was trying to say. Cause they would have said it better, more elequently.

But from this dude? Only thing that would make it worse is if David Duke said it.

Re: Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

RonnieB — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:21:43 -0000

I understand what you're saying, D.

But that's like complimenting ex-child rapists for
finally having a normal sex life.

Re: Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

evita — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:12:28 -0000

Can't believe I'm going to say this. D- I see where you are going with this.

Problem for me is when he says how whites have grown he implies Blacks (and other groups ) haven't made the same progress with racial understanding.

The moral part is seeing the effects of racism as hurtful to our entire country... which I have to say most whites don't see quite yet.

So I would say that there have been strides within the last 40 years towards racial understanding. Not saying we've arrived, but there is growth.

Shelby Steele however is one dancing, smiling, happy to please a white man mf.

Respect, D.

Re: Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

afroacademic — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:15:18 -0000

It has been a long time since I've seen such an example of internalized racism. Sad.
May the mother embrace his soul and the son grant him peace in this age.

Re: Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

DoctorRoger — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:49:38 -0000

Wow. I tried to cut him a *little* slack on "Content of Our Character", but THAT is just plain whack. The "history of the human condition"? Really? I'd love to say that--but as long as there's a White citizens' Council, Christian Identity Movement, and Fox News, I think that Steele's assertions are just a *tad* off base.

Re: Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

Coby_D — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:14:48 -0000

You missed what I said....and you've done that before.

Let's try this:

What I think Steele was saying is that as far as having been the ones who have openly committed racist actions against others-and then losing their legal cover for doing so-, white people have had to make the biggest adjustment of any other racial group.

Now, if you can show me another minority that's been as racist towards another as whites were historically were to us, then I'll stand corrected. Doubt you'll find it...hell, I doubt you'll even look.

Re: Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

Bronze Trinity — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:07:36 -0000

Oh man I CAN'T STAND Shelby Steele. He is the worst sell-out ever!

Re: Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

Webb — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:22:13 -0000

If (and when) Colin Powell endorses Barack Obama, the notion of black Republicans/conservatives will be totally "turned on it's head."

It's already a lonely world for the Clarence Thomases and Ward Connerlys--their dream of converting more "financially-well-off" AAs to the darkside will collapse.

Re: Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

msmartin — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:05:33 -0000

Have you lost your f*&king mind? Really!

Imagine how many times a minority had to overcome the immoral desire for revenge ...... or wanted to....... oh nevermind.

Do you ever really think through a oint before making it?

Re: Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

Rhondacoca — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:02:56 -0000

"The only other guys that belong in the Negro Self-Hatred Club is Clarence Thomas and Ward Connerly."....Larry Elders, Jesse Lee Peterson, Juan Williams, my cousin Jeff.

Unfortunately there are too many.

I have very little to say about this statement but....hahaha.

When did he say or write this?

Re: Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

Coby_D — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:29:24 -0000

I tried, CPL......I tried.

Re: Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

CPL — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:15:00 -0000

Shelby would like to forget he's a Black Man in America.

Stop right there. The only other guys that belong in the Negro Self-Hatred Club is Clarence Thomas and Ward Connerly.

Re: Introducing The Uncle Ruckus Award

CPL — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:13:34 -0000

You know the cuckoo has flown when D can't justify statements like this.