Jack and Jill Politics - Latest Comments in Iraq 5 Years Later: I Am Ashamed (I Beg You. Read, Watch and Act)

Re: Iraq 5 Years Later: I Am Ashamed (I Beg You. Read, Watch and Act)

Nita — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:37:00 -0000

Thank you, Jack.

And thank you, D.

Re: Iraq 5 Years Later: I Am Ashamed (I Beg You. Read, Watch and Act)

BigAssBelle — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:17:00 -0000

just as in the country at large, this eloquent post about the tragedy of iraq draws little interest.

7 comments above my own, while the latest clinton v. obama outrage has dozens.

george bush's campaign to make this war invisible has been almost wholly effective. what a fucking travesty.

dick cheney, when told 2/3 of the american people want the war to end:

"So?"

the american people, when told of the ongoing tragedy of iraq:

"So?"

Re: Iraq 5 Years Later: I Am Ashamed (I Beg You. Read, Watch and Act)

D. — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:46:00 -0000

Jack,
Though this isn't the hot issue right now, wanted to point some things out.

The original Winter Soldier investigation has been, over time, proven to be a farce. Of 48 cases that were investigated by Army CID, only one had enough evidence to substantiate it. This investigation was put on by the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW).

Fast forward to 2008. Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW)-a spinoff of VVAW-holds their Winter Soldier investigation under tight security (including sharpshooters on the roof!) at the National Labor College in MD. The hearings were NOT open to the public, with the exception of some media (mostly IVAW allies and supporters, with a few pro-mission/military bloggers invited in the name of "fairness").

Why am I going through all this?

My views on the war are somewhat well know, and I know where you (and the majority of JJP) stands as well. However, to introduce this sort of information-which has been neither vetted or verified through outside research-is a little bit dangerous.

Re: Iraq 5 Years Later: I Am Ashamed (I Beg You. Read, Watch and Act)

justice58 — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:45:00 -0000

Angela,

This happened after the Iowa Caucus! Someone wanted to know about this new rising star!

Re: Iraq 5 Years Later: I Am Ashamed (I Beg You. Read, Watch and Act)

Angela — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:38:00 -0000

to justic58

I just heard that...the fall out remains.

Re: Iraq 5 Years Later: I Am Ashamed (I Beg You. Read, Watch and Act)

justice58 — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:32:00 -0000

There was a security breach in Obama passport files in January 2008. 2 employees(contract employees) have been fired & a 3rd person disciplined! And it'S just now revealed!!!

WTF!

Re: Iraq 5 Years Later: I Am Ashamed (I Beg You. Read, Watch and Act)

Angela — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:50:00 -0000

Just tonight the media is reporting how some of our troops are being electrocuted in showers and swimming pools because of deficient contractors....

This is obscene...and who voted for this war...Clinton and McCain.

This is an outrage!!!!!!!

Re: Iraq 5 Years Later: I Am Ashamed (I Beg You. Read, Watch and Act)

Angela — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:29:00 -0000

The bottom line is all of these people need to publically support Sen. Obama.

Clinton and McCain are from the same frame of mind.

It is one thing to express your views, but action in support or the candidate who is aligned with your views is important.

Don't let this be wasted....support Sen. Obama.

Re: Iraq 5 Years Later: I Am Ashamed (I Beg You. Read, Watch and Act)

Ms.Martin — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:02:00 -0000

OMG. Another 100 years!

The first soldier needs to stomp with Obama.