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You know Charlie Rangel is probably looking with longing at the Obama campaign, and now he has no choice but to suck it up, because he's been carrying the Clinton's water for the last ten years.
He should have never encouraged her to run for D'Amato's seat - that's how she got to New York in the Senate - Rangel orchestrated and encouraged the move. If she gets the White House, Rangel might have a Cabinet position waiting for him as a "Thank You" for all that water he carried.
He'd better ask Lani Guinier and Joycelyn Elders how that worked out for them...
Leave the Clintons in New York and let them rot. Americans have had enough of them.
That said tho, she's looking really bad and desperate.
The Clintons have always been to the Right of Scalia with regards to crime. They GREW the prison industrial complex in this country. This is one of the reasons I've never understood their appeal among black folks, if that decision had been handed down during the Clinton years, they would have opposed it as fervently as Bush did.
We never cease to be amazed as black leaders rationalize for the Clintons after they've been kicked in the balls by that same husband and wife team time and again. DnA's point that the Clinton's grew the prison industry in the U.S. is telling in this respect: once you were used, there was no need for you anymore. It was only necessary to prove to white working class voters, many of them Democrats, that Bill Clinton could be "tough on crime".
By the way, it must suck to be John Lewis right about now.
Of course, there was bound to be a time when all that Karmic energy came back to bite the Clintons in the ass, and I suppose it was Barack's fate to be the agent of Karmic Justice.
That said, Obama has done something extraordinary, and as a Republican, I must tip my hat to the man. He is on his way to beating the Clinton machine in the Democratic Party at its own game. This simply wasn't supposed to happen, and now it's on the verge of happening.
Hillary was running as if her opponent was George Allen. Instead, she got pwned. Your guy can win. Foolish is the Republican who underestimates this man. If he beats Hillary, he'll have taken down the Clintons. Not even the Bush Family has been able to do that.
Do you folks realize the scale of that achievement?
A towering accomplishment for any politician!
If the Clinton campaign wants to play the drug card against Obama, then Hilary should stop hiding behind the 'plausible deniability' of using proxies (who resign when the backlash starts) talking in not very subtle code and do her own dirty work.
And please... if you're got to justify yourself by saying 'better us than the far-right smear machine I claim to loathe and despise' then you've already lost.
So you knew it was "planted deliberately" but you printed it anyway? Doesn't that make you just as bad?
if the Clinton campaign wants to play the drug card against Obama, then Hilary should stop hiding behind the 'plausible deniability' of using proxies (who resign when the backlash starts) talking in not very subtle code and do her own dirty work.
Apparently she doesn't have to. She can just let you do it for her.
Where do they stand? What would they do with all the stationed overseas troops? Will they engage with other nations through dialogue or threats? These things matter not just to America, but to the world.
You have the eyes of the world on you. Please don't let the world down.
And yet the stereoytpes that have kept Black men and women from succeeding in politics don't seem to have succeeded against Barack Obama thus far. Maybe voters will just ignore questions about what Barack Obama did 20 years ago? Or maybe they will identify with him more strongly?
Effectively, George W. Bush admitted that he used illegal drugs when he refused to answer the question whether he did or not, back in 2000.
The reasons I believe that Clinton is more likely to win the nomination AND the presidency is that:
a) Clinton is more able at undercutting opponents strategically, and
b) Clinton has more experience at fending off attacks against her.
Although some people say they will never vote for Clinton, I know one case in which they surely would: If Barack Obama were her vice presidential running mate.
Long before Mistress Hillary ever concedes this race, you're gonna see some house negroes running out into the fields, trying to catch the Obama Train.
Why Jan 8th? The results from IA and NH will be written into the history books. The SC Blow-out will be a couple of weeks away.
It's going to be fun to watch. I'll be watching/clowning from the train's dining car, sipping on some Hennessey.
I'm sure that Barack will offer kindness/amnesty to these house negroes when the nom is sealed...
You speak for me. Your comment is righteous and spot on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNUOwLiz5b0
And nobody ever asked HIM if he sold the stuff, either.
So that makes a pot-smoking draft-dodger and a coke-snorting fascist in the White House, both of whom tried to minimalize their use. Obama, on the other hand, opens up proudly to the fact that he no longer uses, and hasn't since he was a teenager.
A little reality check: Hillary did all the work while Bill was off philandering with aides? Come on... that doesn't really make sense!
Obama's the first honest politician I can actually find. And they're trying to make that honesty into a weakness. Personally, I find that to be a point in favor of Obama. Maybe he really *is* the one!
At the same time, I know what the Clintons know. That there's still something deep inside many--many--Americans where it's plausible (as opposed to absurd) that Barack may have sold drugs or pimped out women. That it's plausible he's still a "Muslim" at heart (as opposed to a Christ-loving family man).
Yes, Hillary knows this as much as any Black man or woman knows it. And she's using it for her short-term political advantage, rather than condemning it and those who espouse it. And that's why I won't vote for her. At all.
Hillary: How dare you stop my coronation?
Obama: I KNOW my place - on 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Give the handkerchief to someone else.