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It's certainly true on pledged delegates. There are not enough left to go around for either to reach the magic number.
As for supers, if they start declaring en masse, they could lock up the nomination for one candidate or the other.
My larger point is that it's Obama who has the insurmountable lead, and to fight on despite no real chance of prevailing is ONLY destructive
OT: New clip out on youtube: Hillary vs. Barack...with special guest James Carville :-)))))))))
Decidedly NSFW!!!!!! You've been warned.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C50gj5CDrU
The time has come. This is a nightmare scenario that will surely give the White House to the GOP. Sen. Clinton must KNOW this, and refusal to act, NOW, calls her loyalty to America and Democratic Principles into question.
I concure wholeheartedly with Jack's assessment... (as usual).
Thanks for doing what you do and being who you are.
I'm going to say what I've learned over the past couple of days: Hillary Clinton has repeatedly told a bold-faced lie about her trip to Bosnia, inventing false dangers overseas to convince us that only she can protect us.
Who does that sound like? What other lies would Clinton tell in an effort to build political support for herself? What other lies would we discover only afterward to be complete fabrications for the purpose of manipulating the public?
I've learned some things about Hillary Clinton in the last three months that I never though I'd learn. The manipulative politics that I thought she'd only use against the Republicans are becoming the guns that she has turned against the most loyal members of her own party.
Unlike her husband's administration, Hillary doesn't seem to understand the difference between creative spin based on real facts that can be verified, versus absurd and embarrassing fabrications that anyone can disprove (Bosnia arrival) just by reading Hillary's own schedule or viewing the news footage. She done!
Hillary would make a good presidential candidate for the Republican Party, with her Willie Horton tactics and her lies that create foreign dangers (Bosnia tarmac) out of whole-cloth. (She might even join Lieberman now, and run as a (Republican) Independent at some time in the future, like Lieberman did when he was beaten for the Democratic nomination.) But Clinton can never and is never going to make a Democratic president of the United States.
"He would not have been my pastor," Clinton said. "You don't choose your family, but you choose what church you want to attend."...
The Clinton campaign has refrained from getting involved in the controversy, but Clinton herself, responding to a question, denounced what she said was "hate speech."
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/breaking/s_558930.html
Classy?????????????????????
Hil"LIAR"y has been the queen of race baiting, playing on gender, lying and doing anything in her power to destroy the Democratic Party. You call that classy?!?!?!
So when Wright was fighting to save her husband's presidency he was OK now he's not. What a pathetic hypocrite!
Ever been so angry that you just cannot sit still? You fidget. You agitate. You cannot believe the words you are stringing together in your head. That's me.
And Hills, I am not an "angry black man" like I know you want the media to see. I'm a deeply offended, deeply furious white dude. In a state that has not yet had its primary.
I was being snarky.
At this point, I can't summon up outrage anymore at Hillary's tactics.
The government purposely gave Blacks syphillus! Babies died and were born deformed! African American's died shameful deaths and somehow Clinton is classy and Wright is the racist?????? OH, wonder why no one in the MSM is playing the entire sermon where WRIGHT indicates that some of this information was recived from a WHITE person???????
Do your research and listen to the full sermons! This man might have been a littel off the deep end but he is no racist!
SORRY! I guess my "dander" is up! :-)
It feels like that's what Hillary and Bill are doing at this point. They want him to get angry and want it on tape. That's their last hope of getting the nomination.
I think the best way for the Obama campaign to respond is what they have been doing all along - that the Clintons will do or say anything to win. They embrace Wright when they need him, they throw him under the bus when it helps them. It's the narrative that the majority of the voters already believe - well, because it's true...
He's got to let it be.
She got caught with her clothes off on the Bosnia issue so she's trying to steer the story back to Wright.
Obama better not take the bait.
From a Hillary finance committe guy who spilled the beans that it's officially coming from their campaign and not some "gaffe" by a supporter.
"I think the issue that the Clinton campaign has seized on is that Barack Obama, you know, never once raised his voice to his pastor and said, `I think your language is quite extreme here, and i think you language is probably wrong.' Because let's turn this around. If this was David Duke and he was preaching on behalf of, and Hillary Clinton was in the pew, there would be outrage about this. And there can't be this double standard. Barack Obama has used race where it suited him, but when it doesn't suit him he backs away from it.""
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/
Let's stay calm. They are just waiting for the slightest excuse to scream "they're playing the race card again!"
Why is her campaign trying to bring this back up with the conservative talking points?? I offically HATE Hillary Clinton.
HILLARY IS DOING ALL OF THIS BECAUSE IF SHE CAN'T GET THE NOMINATION, NO ONE WILL!
Her plan is to screw up Obama, no matter what the outcome. She wants him so wounded from the primary, he will do a half-assed job in the general and McCain slides right in.
The fix is in - she has to manuever a way towards her goal. She wants to set herself up for a run in 2012 if she doesn't get it NOW.
She does not CARE if she destroys the Democratic Party.
She does not CARE if she damages Obama, a fellow Democrat.
She wants to force Obama to spend money that he could be using in the General against McCain, thereby further crippling him.
She does not CARE; she wants that nomination at all costs, by any means necessary, and everyone else be damned.
There should be another petition demanding Howard Dean and the Party elders get off their collective horses' rear ends and have a sit down with Hillary and give her a choice; either resign with dignity or get forced out of the Party in ignomy (shame).
Should she chose the latter, New York needs to pass a resolution and initiate a recall election of Hillary, and replace her with a Senator that will be represent New York and not be some carpet bagger who moved there solely for political purposes.
The Wright controversy is not hurting Obama the way the Clintons expected. And then this video surfaces of Hillary most definitely NOT dodging sniper fire. Her ridiculous response - I misspoke, I was sleep deprived, I speak millions of words a day, blah blah - isn't helping her any. They must be really worried about the sniper lie, because this latest tactic reeks of desperation.
You are right. BO needs to stop talking about Wright. LET IT GO! He needs to start running against McBush and plain ignore her! She's not even worth it anymore!
Christian Progressive, I live in New York but i'm not a registered Dem but i have been making noise about her.
From NBC's Domenico Montanaro
Obama's campaign responded to Clinton's comments on the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
“After originally refusing to play politics with this issue, it’s disappointing to see Hillary Clinton’s campaign sink to this low in a transparent effort to distract attention away from the story she made up about dodging sniper fire in Bosnia," Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton writes. "The truth is, Barack Obama has already spoken out against his pastor’s offensive comments and addressed the issue of race in America with a deeply personal and uncommonly honest speech. The American people deserve better than tired political games that do nothing to solve the larger challenges facing this country.”
Clinton told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review editorial board, "He would not have been my pastor. You don't choose your family, but you choose what church you want to attend." She continued, "You know, I spoke out against Don Imus (who was fired from his radio and television shows after making racially insensitive remarks), saying that hate speech was unacceptable in any setting, and I believe that. I just think you have to speak out against that. You certainly have to do that, if not explicitly, then implicitly by getting up and moving."
She repeated similar comments at an on-camera press conference later in the day.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080331/ehrenreich
I.will.NEVER.vote.for.her.
HILLARY's playing a zero-sum game...anyone who thinks that their acting in the best interest of the democratic party needs to ACT NOW...Not after PA, Not after June 3rd, THEY NEED TO ACT NOW!
Even if she were the nominee, there is no f&king; way that she can survive that lie in the fall...the Republicans would SURELY RUN HER INTO THE GROUND.
THE SUPERDELEGATES NEED TO STAND UP AND END THIS NOW.
That's why I think the Tonya Harding label will stick.
In fact, I've decided, from now on, when I post about her, I'm going to call her Tonya Harding. ...this is a personal decision, not a JJP decision.