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This changes the subject. Mr. White Male Populist endorses Obama.
I never thought I'd see the day when I'd have more respect for Bill Richardson than Edwards, but I do.
anything that helps kill this white vote narrative is a good thing.
I think this was the best time this endorsement could come.
Know hope.
"punk ass punks" is the only way to describe the Dems now.
I can't wait unit this thing is over so I can change my political party to Independent.
If you want to see an exercise in leadership, you should go ask the sole holdout "Young Democrats" superdelegate what the hell he is waiting for. When basically college students are pro-Obama at the same rate as us black folk that is a true exercise in courage for him to remain uncommitted at this point.
Some people stand there at the bus stop and watch their bus stop, everyone else get on and then just let it go on by. I guess they figure that they will wait for the next one. Democrats are fools.
Moments after John Edwards broke, another Super, WI State Senator Lena Taylor endorsed Barack..
I am feeling you about changing to Independent. This has been ridiculous! Although I must admit I have more respect for Bill b/c they went hard on him and he did not back down.
Another thing about Edwards I also wondered if he was just plain tired of being on a losing team- if maybe since he lost his initial bid then lost as VP then again as Pres. hopeful..maybe he thought his career would be over if he sided with the losing team this time although there is now way he could sleep at night had he endorsed HRC!
I don't dispute that Democratic leadership is an oxymoron, but in that context, these two endorsements happened right on time.
Know hope.
Somehow I think that was planned. Pretty "smoothe" I think.
"Punk ass punks" I read that again. It is pretty funnt and unfortunately pretty true!
it came at just the right time.
And, it was Richardson's actual endorsement, was terrific. It was so sincere.
And now, rolling out Edwards, today, hilarious. Go Obama, great strategy.
Now, when does Al Gore come?
I think you are right. No wonder he has moved on to the general election! I hope this does not mean we will see more of DESPARATE Clinton antics! I'm sure I can't take any more!!!
If Edwards encourage the delegates pledged to vote for him in Denver to pledge for Obama, he will receive 18 or 19 more delegates. He already got 7 of Edwards' delegates in Iowa.
the question then becomes who will be the next 6? (assuming the 19 go to barack)
With the lead secured, it opens the door for the Pelosi club.
My question to Craig,Rykah or anyone who can answer it, What are the odds that Barack, hits that number before next tuesday?
i'm thinking edwards passed a certain window of endorsement after a few months. having waited so long (for whatever reason), BHO may have said, hold off till W VA.
yall are right about this jamming up Hillbot's news cycle. whatever screws with her is good.
thanks for the added perspective
he can't hit it before Tuesday. Edwards' delegates are so important because they are PLEDGED delegates.
I believe the number for 50%+1 of the pledged delegates is 1627.
Obama currently has 1559.5
Edwards has 19.
Let's not be greedy. Only give Obams 12.
That would mean 1611.5
That would mean, between Kentucky and Oregon on the 20th, he would have to get 16 pledged delegates to put him over the top.
There are 51 Delegates up for grabs in Kentucky on the 20th.
There are 52 Delegates up for grabs in Oregon on the 20th.
I think he can do it.
Playing with the delegate counter, in Kentucky alone, even if he only gets 35% of the vote, that would give him 18 delegates.
It was made clear that she will NOT be accompanying her husband to Michigan to support him in his endorsement of Obama. I am sure she played a part in this.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/05/14/eveningnews/main4097478.shtml
Some of my favorite delusional statements:
Clinton: I've received nearly 17 million, Sen. Obama's received nearly 17 million; I'm slightly ahead. Those 34 million people, they will end up voting for the Democrat because there is no reason why they should want to continue the failed policies of George Bush.
Couric: When you give those numbers you're including Florida and Michigan?
Clinton: Of course. Because those were legitimate certified elections that were legal and valid, and people actually exercised their right to vote. The only dispute is how do they get the delegates out of those votes?
Couric: And I've raised this with you before, Sen. Clinton, but Barack Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan.
Clinton: Well, that was his choice. He didn't have to take his name off. There was no rule requiring that he took his name off. But he did run, along with his supporters, a very vigorous campaign to get people to vote uncommitted. So he had a presence there, even though his name wasn't on the ballot.
and
Couric: After your victory in Pennsylvania, you mentioned super delegates a minute ago, after your victory in Pennsylvania, Barack Obama won, so far, the commitment of 57 super delegates. You've netted 15. Aren't things trending his way in the super delegate department?
Clinton: Well, I think we both have been picking up super delegates. I think that will continue. But I go back …
Couric: But he's gotten 57, Senator, and you've gotten 15.
Clinton: Well, but I go back to the basic point. The game isn't over. The elections aren't over. No buzzer has sounded. We have to get to 2,210 delegates and then we'll have a nominee. And, until we get there, we're not likely to know who that nominee will be.
and my favorite:
Couric: Your campaign is … $20 million in debt. With five more contests to go where will you get the money?
Clinton: Oh, well, we're getting contributions as we speak. People have been incredibly generous. You know, I have raised more money than anyone ever running in a primary election, except for my opponent.
How crazy WAS Pat Buchanan. I'm going around the blogosphere and people are saying he had a frigging meltdown. Was it that good?
I also agree with whoever said he constantly compliments Hillary while suggesting he going with Obama because he is the obvious nominee.
It's time for them to ban together and run that she devil not only out of the race, but clear out of the democratic party.
If Obama were in Hillary's place he would be laughed off the stage and out of the scene.
@ ms martin,
That's why I like the endorsement. It gets Obama one step closer to the nomination and Clinton one step closer to the exit. It closes the ranks and gives voice to the "let's move on" part of of the Democratic party.
Obama can't let Hillary's bruised ego dictate the pace and direction of this race. The sooner this ends, the better. Obama has to rip that bandaid off right now. He can't try to peel it off. The Clintons and her supporters are not going to play nice.
They will whine and complain. I already saw one try to play the gender card tonight (i.e., the boys ganging up on Hillary meme).
As for the endorsement, I was talking to my sister and she was not impressed with Edwards' performance. She almost threw a shoe at the tv when he started to praise Clinton for her "strength."
Personally, I'll judge Edwards' endorsement by how hard he campaigns for Obama. If he works his butt off then I'm cool.
I was an "Obama/Edwards '08" kind of guy when this whole process started. I'd still be open to the idea -- but it's hard to see whether Edwards can deliver a state or demographic.
But, I gotta admit, the mere aesthetics of an Obama/Edwards ticket are appealing. But I've got my eyes on a few other possibilities right now:
Obama/Richardson
Obama/Webb
Obama/Sebelius
Obama/Clark (Clinton olive branch)
Obama/Baye (Clinton olive branch)
There are a lot of possibilities. It's gonna be an interesting month.
I remember your prediction. Good call!
Now what about Gore????
I'm thinking he might get the "magic number endorsement". . . meaning he'll be number 2025 for poetic purposes.
Moments after John Edwards broke, another Super, WI State Senator Lena Taylor endorsed Barack.
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I went to high school with her. She was in my Latin class.
Terrific woman.
You haven't heard? The number has been changed to 2210 - a number unattainable (w/o FL or MI) - that will give Hillary pause to take this all the way to the convention.
But I did not hear the speech as a Clinton endorsement. He simply wanted to give her her props so as not to appear that the boys were kicking the girl to the curb.
We can get cynical as all hell around here.
Edwards is a symbol. A true empty suit. But people like him, and like it or not, he has a national following.
This needs to come to an end. Bill Clinton is off in Montana smearing Obama and making it appear as though he's bullying Clinton. He's lost his damn mind.
The Democratic "leaders" have got to see what's happening and are finally moving to end this madness.
Here's......Pat Buchanan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVeFyV0iLrk&eurl;
I am cynical, I'm sick of this bs. It's been long and hard and I'm mad about it.
This really is the Dems closing ranks on Hill, but it's taking toooooo long.
He might have harbored more resentment than Hillary.
But Edwards wants a national platform. This is how he gets one.
He's practically a persona non grata in North Carolina politics, so if he wants to end poverty, he'll need to do it from the Hill.
He licked his wounds, re-entered the national scene with his television appearances a few weeks back, and endorsed Obama today to end this madness.
I understand the criticism. But credit where credit is due.
1. besides stealing the press from wva, he announced in michigan - a state he needs to win in... great strategic move.
2. I never thought I'd say this, but the Obama/Edwards ticket looked good tonight and it puts a new twist on the vp conversation
Woah.
He voted for Obama in the North Carolina primary.
He won't be Obama's runningmate (I hope not!), but he's not an enemy.
I hope this freezes whatever momentum Hillary thought she could exploit from last night.
One of her campaign spokespeople said "It's not great news."
Finally, a bit of truth.
I saw the entire brochure over at a conservative's site, along with this conservative's story of how it went when he went to one of Obama's Kentucky offices. This guy could see it, plain as day - Obama's going for the evangelicals. (which sorta links back to my post from a couple of days ago, doesn't it?)
I linked off of HuffingtonPost.com, is that where you saw it too, craig?
I'm watching Obama's speech after the endorsement on C-Span right now.
I've never seen him this forceful in his delivery.
He's feeling something.
I got an email of the flyers. I like them too. I don't want to like them but I do. I say that because I believe in the Separation of Church and State. But the way he's been smeared and smeared and smeared, they are necessary.
Turning lemons into lemonade.
That was something else. Michigan will vote for Obama. I've no doubt.
I've noticed the command in his voice now that he is campaigning against McCain.
This will be a whole different ballgame.
I am not cynical. I am simply an independent thinker who has watched Edwards closely for 10 years. I also don't believe in just parroting what the talking heads and blogosphere tell me is important, not important, or that it is perfect timing because they say it is. Anyone who knows anything about Edwards, knows that had he not gotten 7 percent of the vote in WV, he would have sat at home on his estate until June. It is only because the pundits made a big deal out of that lowly 7% and inflated his importance again that he came out.
I also don't believe Edwards actually voted for Obama. He is a liar who stayed out because he really wanted Hillary to win but since Obama has he jumped on board. Even on his media tour over the last week before the WV primaries he was basically praising Clinton and would only acknowledge Barack in insulting ways like Hillary is a fighter with a lot of experience who gets back up every time she gets knocked down would make a great president...she knows policy and how to get things done...and Barack he just came out of "NOWHERE, literally" and now he has taken it all. I listened to his WORDS show after show and wondered how these idiots could spin that as he is all for Obama. I was thinking over and over again, are you actually listening to his words or are you just STUPID.
Edwards is the worst kind of politician who to this day has less respect than Hillary from his colleagues on the Hill precisely because he is a liar who will do and say anything and could not be trusted; to this day after all Hillary has done and this speaks volumes about the kind of person Edwards is but then millions in NC figured him out long ago and he would never have been re-elected to the senate anyway nor would his endorsement had meant anything before their primary. He was doing a get out the vote media tour for Hillary before WV and when she didn't get the 80% she needed to change the game, he jumped aboard under the cover that ALL those who ignore what he actually says and does to spin him in the best possible (and unrealistic) light. He got HIMSELF a positive news cycle but if it helps Obama, then again thanks anyway. I don't give credit to the lowest of low-life pols whose so called endorsement is only one of himself and the opponent that says nothing more than I am supporting him because he won and I need in the spotlight again.
I think AAs are not cynical enough which is exactly why, as a people, don't have shit and won't ever get shit. The inability to be critical thinkers and strategic doers is exactly why the DNC and its pols can take those votes for granted and haven't ended this even though we all knew the math since the first of March.
I suggest we actually watch and listen to what is said and done and stop believing the blog and TV hype but when you do actually starting critically thinking be forewarned that you might get accused of cynicism. Most people don't embrace free thinkers especially when facts threaten to get in the way of a good spin or the desired narrative.
As a political matter, I'm a little peeved that his "endorsement" is premised wholly on which way the political winds began to blow. And, just as Barack said in their first debate, Edwards is often too late in showing leadership. He's a fine lawyer, a decent politician with a good rap, but he's not cut from the leadership mold. That said, I welcome his support.
Won't you join me in switching to Independent??
Now, the proof of Edwards' moxie comes if he can round up some endorsements (like he did with the Steelworkers' Union) and uncommitted superdelegates...
peace, Villager