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Jack and Jill Politics: Making Obama The Angry Black Man

  • Nichelle · 1 year ago
    Obama fired back angrily, "Don't try cheap stunts like that."


    Fired back angrily?



    Imagine the different impressions people would get from seeing this clip on TV vs. reading that article. How ridiculous.
  • The Bag of Health and Politics · 1 year ago
    Hillary Clinton will do anything to win the nomination. But what she doesn't realize is that she's making the nomination worthless with these kind of tactics. There's no way she can win. She is ensuring McCain's victory in November with this kind of BS. Shame on ABC news for buying into it.


    And what did ABC say about Bill Clinton's red faced rants? Did they describe them as angry? Of course not...
  • BigAssBelle · 1 year ago
    i hate the fucking media. it is virtually impossible for any democrat to win with them. there is SO much fodder for their propaganda machine on the other side of the race, but the rethugs aren't hounded or confronted and their behavior isn't exaggerated to make a point.


    i have been afraid since Obama became a frontrunner that there would be an effort to paint him as the (ever frightening, oh my!) Angry Black Man. it's outrageous, because this clip, for anyone who watches it, makes it apparent he is being dogged by the media and is simply responding. quite gracefully, i might add.



    the same thing happened when Clinton got choked up. she was far from weeping and wailing boo hoo crying, but you'd never know that listening to the various talking heads. unless you actually saw the clip, you'd think she lost it and was gnashing teeth, rending garments, weeping and wailing.



    which is what i am prone to do these days looking at the obstacle course before us on the road to november. the democrats have so refined the art of screwing up, i just wonder if we can hold it together and win the oval office AS WE MUST in november, come hell or high water, or we will lose the courts at every level.



    bush's primary damage has not been on the supreme court, though that's bad enough. but at every level of the court system he has installed right wing zealots who are, and will continue to, control what makes it to the supreme court.



    kiss equal rights good. goodbye roe v. wade. check ya later civil rights. no luck in reviving habeus corpus. we will be well and truly fucked. we MUST have a democratic president.
  • NMP · 1 year ago
    God help me, but I have to say aloud that Pat Buchanan, 'Mr take our country back from the spics and niggers', got it write yesterday when he wrote that the Clintons have successfully "ghettoized" Senator Obama. And the lazy and sensational media who are more accustomed to covering Black criminality than Black achievement, are more than willing to help further ghettoize Senator Obama.


    I say it now--AND I'LL REPEAT AND DELIVER IN NOVEMBER--I will cut off my right arm before I vote for Hillary Clinton. Either I'll keep my free Black ass at home or pull the lever for Bloomberg if he gets in the race. But I have no intention of EVER allowing myself to be a slave to the Democratic Party again.
  • The Bag of Health and Politics · 1 year ago
    I decided to do something about my anger about this. To me, it's clear that reporter Sunlen Miller fabricated the story. I contacted ABC News and asked them to fire Sunlen Miller, as fabrication--the writing of fiction--is one of, if not the, biggest journalistic sin. I hope everyone will do the same.
  • tryexcellence · 1 year ago
    Yeah they took him there. And it would have been hard for any self-respecting black person not to follow the pigs into the mud pit to defend themselves.


    Its kind of like having a co-worker blatantly lie on you and having to go to your boss to clear your name. Yeah, you might clear your name, but you also give some credence to the lie by even discussing it.



    This stuff has gotten me so angry that I can't even look at the Clintons without disdain.



    I'm like nmp, I won't be voting for Hillary should she get the nomination. I've accepted that I'm going to have to keep my ass out of the shopping centers in light of the republican administration that we will undoubtedly have come November.



    I feel more comfortable with my president being forthright and honest with his racism as is the case with most of the Republicans.
  • NMP · 1 year ago
    Another 'what I wish Obama what have said': After her slumlord remark, he should have said, "Bitch, please! You are the last person that should be talking about dubious contributors."
  • Webb · 1 year ago
    I'm glad someone mentioned Bloomberg...if Hillary/Bill/Billary manages to connive, trick, and steal the democratic nomination away from Barack, then Barack should GO INDEPENDENT! Barack should do what McCain was unwilling to do in 2000.


    If Barack needs to align himself with Mr. Billionaire Bloomberg, then SO BE IT. I would rather see Barack be Bloomberg's VP. Can you see Bloomberg-Obama? I can (if those red-faced, red-necked crooks steal this).



    Clinton/Obama? Sounds like Str8 Bullsh#t to me...I don't want Barack to be sullied by being in anyway associated with those selfish mutha-#@4kas who are willing to win at all cost...even if it means destroying the Democratic Party.
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    HILLARY'S FRIEND IS AN OLD KKK MEMBER, CHECK THIS OUT HERE:


    http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/11/15/185205.shtml?et=y



    Hilarious. Bill Clinton falls asleep at MLK celebration



    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/01/clinton_gets_sleepy_at_mlk_day.php



    CLINTON SAYS WE HAVE THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT BECAUSE LYNDON JOHNSON SIGNED IT.



    GOLDWATER RAN A CAMPAIGN AGAINST JOHNSON...

    SO WHY WAS SHE CAMPAIGNING FOR BARRY GOLDWATER WHO WAS AGAINST THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT???



    BY THE WAY CHECK OUT BILL CLINTON'S RACIST POSTCARD HE SENT TO HIS GRANDMA IN 1966 DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.



    http://serr8d.blogspot.com/2007/10/bill-clinton-racist-postcard-buy-it-now.html
  • Ronnie B · 1 year ago
    CNN's John King -- a white reporter with no apparent ties to the Black community -- just accused Barack of acting "black" in front a all dem colo'ds in Souf Ca'lina.


    Apparently Barack's use of the word "y'all", combined with his admonishment that South Carolinians not fall for the Clinton "okey doke" was a little too ebonic.



    It's not just the Clintons, folks. The white media have lost there damned minds, too.
  • The Bag of Health and Politics · 1 year ago
    I do believe that Obama could win as an independent. The Republicans are down to Romney, McCain, and maybe Huckabee (none of whom are acceptable to their entire coalition). Hillary is not acceptable to the entire Democratic coalition, and has zero independent appeal. If Obama could put together independents--which he'd likely win against Romney or Huckabee--with enough disaffected Republicans and enough disaffected Democrats, he might just be able to get to 40%, which wins a 3 way race.


    As for VP, the only way he should take it is if Clinton pledges one-term before the ticket is announced. Otherwise it's not worth it. We saw what happened to Gore after he waited eight years, and saw them screwing up his chances...
  • Webb · 1 year ago
    @bag, you really think the Clintons are trustworthy? You really think that their racist tactics are forgivable in 2008? This isn't 1968, it's 2008.


    For *O* to sign on with the Clintons would mean that he's willing to play the "same old games and expect a different result." It would be a complete contradiction of what he says he believes...to align with the Clintons would destroy his credibility.



    Obama and Bloomberg met this fall. I am not sure how it would play out...Maybe Bloomberg would be willing to be a VP on an Obama/Bloomberg ticket...but if it were my $billion dollars...ha ha, I don't know...
  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    say it now--AND I'LL REPEAT AND DELIVER IN NOVEMBER--I will cut off my right arm before I vote for Hillary Clinton. Either I'll keep my free Black ass at home or pull the lever for Bloomberg if he gets in the race. But I have no intention of EVER allowing myself to be a slave to the Democratic Party again.


    Amen.
  • The Bag of Health and Politics · 1 year ago
    If the one-term pledge was made BEFORE the VP announcement, then I could see it working. I agree at running on the ticket with Hillary and facing 8 years in the wilderness as the VP to Hillary with no power, and no way to break inside the inner circle because of Bill. Four years is a different story...


    An Obama/Bloomberg Independent run might win. A tough, tough road, and one that ensures he'll never get another shot at the Presidency if he doesn't pull it off, but one that could work. Bloomberg might go for it if he got lots of say in the issues he's interested in.
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    Looks like Clinton's "Blacks vs. Latinos" strategy worked: http://www.ufw.org/_board.php?mode=view&b;_code...
  • TrueBlue · 1 year ago
    Listen, if it comes down to it, what the hell use is it for him (or us) to stay with the Democratic party if the Clintons sleaze their way to the nomination? I know the system is rigged to make it incredibly difficult for independents to get on ballots and deal with the electoral college. But if it means forming an alliance with Bloomberg, who's got the money, then I'm all for it (so long as Obama is at the top of the ticket). A coalition of disgruntled blacks and whites (like me) who refuse to put up with this racist crap would make a powerful starting point. I won't vote for the b*tch.
  • Angela · 1 year ago
    People you can't just complain on the web sites...you have to write letters to your Senators, Congress people, etc.


    I am upset with the status quo. I just wrote a letter to Sen. Kennedy of Mass. and I live in Kentucky. He might read my letter, and he might not. Besides that we all have to be active.



    I am driving tomorrow from Kentucky to volunteer for Obama in Greenville, South Carolina.



    I am doing this as a 58 yr old woman who knows that you have to act and not just complain. I have also donated as much as I can budget.



    Do not give up. This contest is more than about Sen. Obama, this is about all of us freeing ourselves from the Clinton shackles and the supreme confidence that we can show the rest of the country that the Clintons are all about the status quo and all about their greediness for being treated like royalty.



    We can do it......we will find a way.
  • Webb · 1 year ago
    For the record, I've donated 3-figures to the Obama Campaign (which is as much as I can budget at the moment) and proudly advertise for Obama every day I drive down the street with my bumper sticker...I'm not complaining...I'm definitely not giving up....But I am contemplating...


    If this were a pure blog for venting, I would really let loose with what I think (about the Clintons), but I don't want Jack, Jill, DNA or RikyRah to ban me from the comments section. I reserve my most profane, political thoughts for close friends and family.



    So I contemplate..."What will I do if the Clintons steal this nomination by doing 'whatever' it takes to win?" Will I willingly line up behind the democratic nominee and be like, "All is fair in love and politics. Those Clintons are some tough cookies. Their the Masters (Massas) of the game."



    I'm sorry folks, but politics is NOT a game. Politics is life and death. It's about the quality of all our lives. I'm fortunate--I don't have a subprime mortgage, I have health insurance, and I have a great education. Hillary promises the world...but all that she will be good for is UNITING THE REPUBLICANS...engaging in partisan warfare and REKINDLING old animosities..



    When Barack says that Bill is "factually inaccurate," he's being nice. Let me make it plain, "The Clintons are LIARS." Pathelogical LIARS.



    This country has SUFFERED THROUGH SEVEN YEARS OF LIES (935 LIES About Iraq+WMD Alone)...WHY IN THE HEEL WOULD WE WANT 4 MORE YEARS OF LIES?



    The Clintons will have their legacy...They nearly devastated the party in 1994...now they are about to tear the whole dayum party asunder...what's stunning to me is that no one saw this coming...
  • resigned · 1 year ago
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/... great strategy articles by Dick Morris (yeah, yeah, I know, but hey, he's right on the money here). Reading how the Clintons played the race card and will lose SC in such a way that enables them to gain the black vote back in Novermber, I almost admire the sheer genius of the Clintons (or is it Mark Penn).



    Hope will always be killed if it's outgunned by amorality. Unless there's a miracle and Dems see Hillary Clinton for what she represents -- and rejects her -- then the Dems will get the nominee they deserve.
  • jstele · 1 year ago
    Bill Clinton lets go of all pretense and makes it clear: Blacks will vote for Obama and women will vote for Hillary. He said that the Clintons don't expect to win because 50% of the voters are black.


    "I never heard a word of public complaint when Mr. Obama said Hillary was not truthful, no character, was poll-driven. He had more pollsters than she did," Bill Clinton said in a heated exchange with a CNN reporter. "When he put out a hit job on me at the same time he called her the senator from Punjab, I never said a word."



    It was not clear what he meant by "hit job."



    Yeah, so now Bill Clinton is calling Obama a gangster.



    "Clinton said he personally witnessed Obama's union forces intimidating Nevada caucus-goers and said an Obama radio ad suggested how Democrats could keep votes from his wife."



    "Bill Clinton said civil rights leaders Andrew Young and John Lewis have defended his wife. "They both said that Hillary was right and the people who attacked her were wrong and that she did not play the race card, but they did," he said. "Let him go get in an argument with them about it."



    Yeah, these other black people said that Obama played the race card, so they are right. He needs to deal with THOSE black people and not confront Hillary for what she did. If THOSE black people say, I'm not racist, then I'm not.
  • jstele · 1 year ago
    Here is the link for the above quotes: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080124/ap_on_el_pr...
  • Angela · 1 year ago
    I also heard a few of those political anaylsts say that was a calculated piece by Bill Clinton. They said that when BC wants to avoid the press he does but when he wants to make a point he'll get it out there when ever he wants to. They said it was no accident that BC said what he did and when he did.
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    "Bill Clinton said civil rights leaders Andrew Young and John Lewis have defended his wife. "They both said that Hillary was right and the people who attacked her were wrong and that she did not play the race card, but they did," he said. "Let him go get in an argument with them about it."


    Andrew Young also said that Bill was just as black as Barack and has probably went out with more black women than Barack.



    Is that note "playing the race card?"



    Andrew Young also said that Hillary Clinton "neutralized" the numerous women (Bill's ex-flings) ready to derail his campaign.



    Is that not "playing the gender card?"