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Re: McCain losing votes to Obama in N.H.

D. — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:00:00 -0000

...which is partly why I like him, but that's just me...

Here's what I mean by those:

Rigidity: someone who knows what their beliefs are, and who will stand beside them, even if they hurt him politically.

Inflexibility: the ability to hear public opinion, but not go back and forth over what the public wants on a daily basis (because we all know, it changes all the time).

What's undesirable about that? Or would we rather have a president who can't make the hard calls and will do whatever the public wants, even if it's not in their best interest?

Re: McCain losing votes to Obama in N.H.

ronnie b. — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:47:00 -0000

Maybe rigidity, inflexibility, and stability are what this country needs right now. So McCain's an old cuss...at least he calls things the way he sees them.

George W. Bush is rigid, inflexible, and calls things the way he sees them.

Clearly those are proving to be undesirable traits in a 21st century president.

Re: McCain losing votes to Obama in N.H.

D. — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 09:37:00 -0000

Maybe rigidity, inflexibility, and stability are what this country needs right now. So McCain's an old cuss...at least he calls things the way he sees them. And I'd take that right now over the vague notion of "change."

Re: McCain losing votes to Obama in N.H.

ronnie b. — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 09:33:00 -0000

Disagree. I think Huckabee beats McCain based on moderation and temperment. Huckabee is demonized as the evil tax man, until he explains the use and rationale of this taxes -- and they invariably inure to the white middle class. McCain is too rigid and inflexible on taxation, and as such, doesn't demonstrate a much needed moderation for the job.

Huckabee v. Obama would be a much needed contest, and would be good for the country. But voters don't want that. They want to be rabid fanatics who root for their favorite political team.

Re: McCain losing votes to Obama in N.H.

D. — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 07:08:00 -0000

McCain vs. Obama...hmmm.

I'll admit (now) that Obama is electable, and might even do a half decent job as president.

No way he beats McCain, though. Even if you take the War on Terror out of the equation, there's no comparison between the two.

Re: McCain losing votes to Obama in N.H.

Webbuh — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:21:00 -0000

Dang, is Bill Bradley black? Just kidding.

Republicans love wedge issues...Abortion, Gay Marriage, etc.

If she gets the nom, Hillary Clinton will be their wedge issue for 2008. People like me will be disengaged...i'll tune-out...and having Obama as VP will not be a saving grace.

It's sort of like how I deal with this Bush Administration...whenever Bush is on TV, I try to change the channel, leave the room, go somewhere else...i avoid watching that monkey...see no evil, hear no evil. The same will apply to Hillary.

Give me a President that I want to watch. Let me come home at night and find out what First Lady Michelle Obama's been doing lately. Give me a reason to be engaged.

Obama vs Huckabee...that's going to be a great race to watch.

Re: McCain losing votes to Obama in N.H.

The Bag of Health and Politics — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 15:20:00 -0000

The Bradley effect could happen, but it won't happen in Iowa where that'd be admitting it to the entire neighborhood.

Also, I think from the 2006 (and Obama's 2004 Senate election for that matter) elections that there's evidence that the Bradley effect is on its way out. It seems to me that both liberals and conservatives will vote for a candidate of another race as long as that candidate matches their views.

As for Hillary, you're right. She can't get elected. You can't win with 48% of the vote, and there's no way she can get that now. It isn't because of her gender. It's because she's been around for 16 years, and made a ton of enemies in the process...