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Re: Michael Jackson Remembrance Thread

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Re: Michael Jackson Remembrance Thread

ibeching — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:36:02 -0000

what you don't hear in the news is that Michael Jackson donated over $300 million to charity over the course of his lifetime.

here's a partial list of charities he's contributed to:

AIDS Project L.A.
American Cancer Society
Angel Food
Big Brothers of Greater Los Angeles
BMI Foundation, Inc.
Brotherhood Crusade
Brothman Burn Center
Camp Ronald McDonald
Childhelp U.S.A.
Children's Institute International
Cities and Schools Scholarship Fund
Community Youth Sports & Arts Foundation
Congressional Black Caucus (CBC)
Dakar Foundation
Dreamstreet Kids
Dreams Come True Charity
Elizabeth Taylor Aids Foundation
Juvenile Diabetes Foundation
Love Match
Make-A-Wish Foundation
Minority Aids Project
Motown Museum
NAACP
National Rainbow Coalition
Rotary Club of Australia
Society of Singers
Starlight Foundation
The Carter Center's Atlanta Project
The Sickle Cell Research Foundation
Transafrica
United Negro College Fund (UNCF)
United Negro College Fund Ladder's of Hope
Volunteers of America
Watts Summer Festival
Wish Granting
YMCA - 28th Street/Crenshaw

Re: Michael Jackson Remembrance Thread

jelana — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:39:42 -0000

Thriller

Re: Michael Jackson Remembrance Thread

jelana — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:18:27 -0000

Take Care. I hope you feel better soon!

Re: Michael Jackson Remembrance Thread

TruthSeeker — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:38:57 -0000

You certainly are interested in vengeance..you said so yourself..in THIS thread; or, was that the holy spirit speaking through you?

Please clarify.

Re: Michael Jackson Remembrance Thread

Webb — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:19:56 -0000

My faith and hope are in the Almighty God. I'm not personally "interested" in vengeance against those who would defame the dead. Vengeance belongs to the Almighty God.

And as an atheist, I don't expect you to understand anything I have said. Of course, it's all gibberish, nonsense to you. That's fine. This is not Iran. This is America.

That is all I have to say. I will not detract further from this remembrance thread. If you wish to continue this in an open thread (preferably on another day), please do so.

Re: Michael Jackson Remembrance Thread

Trumystique — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:10:21 -0000

Peace to the dead...Exactly! It was such a contrast the way they reported on Farrah and the way they reported on Michael last night on ABC. Farrah was all permasoft hair, hairdo icon, intelligence and a great love story with Ryan. Michael was all tortured soul and by the way he was a musical genius.

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Re: Michael Jackson Remembrance Thread

TruthSeeker — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:04:30 -0000

George Carlin - Jacko Beats Them All
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Re: Michael Jackson Remembrance Thread

pluky — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:19:11 -0000

That I get. Nobody listens to "The Moonlight Sonata" and thinks what an awful crank Beethoven was.

Peace to the dead. Strength to the living. Blessed be.

Re: Michael Jackson Remembrance Thread

Rhondacoca — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:46:00 -0000

My MJ Tribute:

I am wearing a sequin silver glove on my left hand in honor of MJ until his birthday in August.

I am crying while I write this because my heart is broken beyond repair.

I have been devastated since hearing the news! I have not eaten or drank because it is just so surreal.I slept hoping I will wake up and it will be a hoax or a stunt.

I was born in 1986 (I am young I know) so I grew up with Mj being a part of my world and existence.

My first words were "I'm Bad". My parents set up a TV in my nusery and played MJ videos so I didn'tcry or act up. I learned to walk when I got up to walk towards to TV during one of his live appearances.

I remember seeing him in concert several times including the one back in 2001 in Ny. I flew to foreign countries for his concerts.

I became a dancer because of Michael...he inspires my art, fashion and ecclectic personal aesthetics.

My favorite movie is Moonwalker.

His music videos were primetime television, who can forget the long version of Bad with Wesley Snipes or Smooth Criminal.

I own all of his albums and I was honored when I was choosen to be in the crowd of children that appeared at a live performance years ago. I cried when I did not get to meet him.

I spent the last several years defending him against cruel attacks by greedy and judgemental people who could not see that he was emotionally and mentally unstable. His only fault was being born into such a unsympathetic society and being misunderstood. Listen to his song "Childhood"...it was his mainfesto...it was what was going on inside him. I cried everytime I heard it.I am tired of people calling him "wacko" and weird and crazy etc.. He was a good man with a good heart.He was damaged by a cruel society.

I was in California outside of the court room with the rest of his "crazy" (as the media called us) fans when he was charged with child molestation. People laughed at me up to Wednesday with what they called my "intense obsession" with Michael Jackson. I have tickets for his concert in London but I assume there will be no concert.I am and will always be a die hard fan. Words cannot capture the depth of my love for Michael.

Re: Michael Jackson Remembrance Thread

Trumystique — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:19:23 -0000

Pluky and Craig, I get that you agree with Sullivan. I think what I object to is the timing. Talk about the man's life work which is enduring first. The coda should be the personal price he paid for it. Talking about the personal price he paid before talking about his work- is I think-- ass backwards. MJ isnt in pain anymore- that earthly suffering, those demons- are left behind. What endures is the work he left behind- and that I think should be the starting point for any eulogy. And to me that didnt come across when I read Sullivan's entry.

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Re: Michael Jackson Remembrance Thread

Guest — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:42:08 -0000

Not surprising is it?

Re: Michael Jackson Remembrance Thread

TruthSeeker — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:38:19 -0000

You're also wrong about Karma. There will be no "comeuppance" for these people.

It is not honourable to scavenge, or seek cheap applause, or to be a sly preacher.

Fond of scriptures? Here's one for you:

However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

You KNOW zippo.

Re: Michael Jackson Remembrance Thread

whiterosebuddy — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:37:09 -0000

Great tribute H&F...I loved how you focused on his stellar achievements rather than his personal struggles. A tribute is to the individuals greatest not his weakness. After all, no man is the sum of his flaws.

I enjoyed reading your tribute.

Re: Michael Jackson Remembrance Thread

whiterosebuddy — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:17:55 -0000

That is my all time favorite, as well, Justice...I was so disappointed that Michael rarely sang the song in the 80s after his voice changed. But in the 60s when he could hit all those notes...it was awesome.

Loved I'll be there...Just look over your shoulders, honey!

Re: Michael Jackson Remembrance Thread

whiterosebuddy — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:14:35 -0000

what rich irony that the crossover song picked by white folks was about a RAT.

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Webb — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:08:15 -0000

They don't. We (the fans, the family, the friends) do. Is that difficult for you to grasp?

I'd give you a scriptural basis too, but I know you're an atheist so it would just go over your head. Shoot, I'll do it anyway:

“And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear: Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

Like I said, I know you can not appreciate it. Maybe someone else will benefit.

Re: Michael Jackson Remembrance Thread

TruthSeeker — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:51:24 -0000

"Defaming the dead"..?

I really don't think the dead give a damn.

Re: Michael Jackson Remembrance Thread

Miranda — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:15:33 -0000

LMAO!!! They found a family of Mormons to go up against some Jehovah Witnesses.......they never stood a chance.

Re: Michael Jackson Remembrance Thread

Miranda — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:10:53 -0000

Had the Jackson 5 coloring books and watched the show on Sat mornings...I can barely remember it now...gosh I hope I can find it on the net somewhere.

Re: Michael Jackson Remembrance Thread

spirit_55z — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:02:32 -0000

Ditto!

Re: Michael Jackson Remembrance Thread

pluky — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:52:57 -0000

Trumystique, that is exactly Sullivan's point. Yes, Michael did all sorts of things cherished BY OTHER PEOPLE. The personal price HE PAID for all this "joy to millions" was staggering.

Re: Michael Jackson Remembrance Thread

soothsayer — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:33:01 -0000

I disagree intensely that Ed and Farrah are already forgotten.

Re: Michael Jackson Remembrance Thread

soothsayer — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:31:51 -0000

Wow.

Pure poetry.

Re: Michael Jackson Remembrance Thread

soothsayer — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:24:37 -0000

It's exactly the time to talk about Michael Jackson's demons.

I can do without the tabloid bullshit, but this true insight into what created and destroyed Michael Jackson is on point and right on time.

And Sullivan doesn't skip over the joy at all. After all, he was one of the recipients of that joy, as well as the pain.

We all were.

Sullivan pays the greatest kind of tribute to Michael because he honors all of him.

As James Baldwin said, it is the role of the artist to tell us who we are. Michael Jackson told us exactly who we are.

“ONE MUST say Yes to life, and embrace it wherever it is found—and it is found in terrible places…”

Sullivan got this one right.