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nezua — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:25:20 -0000

look at the strength in that walk. damn what a beautiful woman.

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Patricia Ford — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:22:44 -0000

I bleive Michelle Obama is being herself. she can remain who she is and still be there for America. It is the white mans rules to kiss, who is to say that every value they have is correct for all of us. I am so proud of this couple for standing still while God move them where he would like them to be. Only God could have ordained this move for America. I beleive we should place our arms and support around the Obamas. They will get too much negativity from others we should not get involved in that mess. I supprt them whole heartidly and they have my prayers and all my support. I love that Barack got the courage to be obidient to God. Our country needs a change and he has been chosen to be the one. Come on America lets give all our support.
We can always find fault in others. When is the last time you looked in the mirror and seen your faults? Only those living in a glass house are throwing stones. Remember we all get a turn. I send love to our country and all those in it.

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heartsandflowers — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:45:41 -0000

Dang that was brutal! But so necessary. I thought my reply was nice enough but firm. Some people are sooo sensitive.

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99PercentSure — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:39:59 -0000

You are correct; serving in the military is not a pre-requisite to becoming President,.

However, McMumbles has pimped his POW status as a reason he should be president on too many occasions to mention. Even his biggest supporters - corporate media - have acknowledged this. In fact, at least once or twice a week, Tweety talks about how McCentury uses it to further his presidential ambitions, as does Lipless Joe and Massa Buchanan.

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Town — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:09:54 -0000

"I'm really absolutely floored by how easy it is for some black women to become reactive and judgmental when they are not agreed with."

HMMMMMMMMMM........like you? Telling on yourself, aren't cha?

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Town — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:09:01 -0000

When you say "Town and Heartsandflowers blah blah blah" yeah, you're singling me out. What I said to you had did not warrant me being singled out by you for "not believing you were a black woman." I never said I didn't believe you were a black woman so when you put my name on your fingertips as being somebody who "didn't believe" you were a real black woman, yeah, I'm gonna have something to say about that.

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Anovelista — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:08:45 -0000

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Town — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:06:02 -0000

TRANSLATION:

We can't dialogue because you ain't cosigning with me. Just because I came on here nasty does not mean you need to be nasty with me. Maybe if you had been nice to me after I was nasty to you things could have been different. But since I have friends offline who cosign everythign I say, screw your funky blog. You're a bunch of haters. Screw your funky little blog, Anovelista. Because you put me on blast, I don't believe you're all about the upliftment of black women. So lets go and do what we do best: you go back to your funky little blog getting all that attention and I'll go back to wishing my blogs had gotten that much attention.

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NO ID — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:01:13 -0000

I think, and I'll say it again, I never felt I personally attacked anyone. I stated an opinion. We are on a political blog, where people often state strong opinions. What came back to me was nasty and personal in my view. Rikyrah, for example, was able to respond without becoming personal and I appreciate that. But at the end of the day, it's not that serious. I would have welcomed a constructive dialogue, but this wasn't. So we can all go back to our lives and opinions and do what we do. It's all good. But these were YOUR words:

"This person is not truly "concerned" for Black women..."

I'd say that set the tone.

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Anovelista — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:48:05 -0000

WAOD and MOW are run by Gina McCauley, not me.

You seem awful sensitive about receiving strong responses to the negative tone that YOU introduced here. You start with "cry me a river" and then go right to saying we're "stan-ish" and questioning whether or not I'm a black woman and then doubting "my sincerity in uplifting Black women."

You walked in on the attack. You dished it out but you couldn't take it. And now everyone else is to blame.

Whatever...

I'll just hang my hat with Town, ChicNoir and Rikyrah and say goodnight.

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NO ID — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:46:17 -0000

Since you apparently felt as thought I singled you out, just go back to the post you refer to. I addressed two people so that I could make one response. No one called "you" out, I simply consolidated my response. As far as jealousy, really, let me state it again for the record. I support BOTH Obamas. Somehow you've distilled several fairly lengthy responses down into one sentence and instead of looking at them in totality you got stuck on one thing. So maybe that's YOUR issue. I'm not still responding because I'm that interested in Michelle Obama. I'm really absolutely floored by how easy it is for some black women to become reactive and judgmental when they are not agreed with. I said what I said and stand by it and in my responses, I think my support for Michelle is clear. I was the one who wondered why it became necessary to announce that MO was now going to be "raising her daughters" and "wouldn't be speaking on policy issues" prior to her husband's overseas trip. But apparently, the temptation to jump down my throat was too much for some of you to bear. Instead of engaging in some positive and potentially constructive dialogue on both sides, you have basically said, if you don't like what we have to say, get off the site. I'll pass on that, since as a free black woman I can do and say what I please. But we can move on from this topic, although I'm saddened that what could have been an empowering dialogue was jettisoned by what appears to be some real anger at an opinion that doesn't concur with yours.

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NO ID — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:34:03 -0000

I think we missed a chance at real dialogue here. And unfortunately, I think the negative responses that I got missed any valid points that I made. Maybe I do need to rethink how I said what I said, but the sentiment remains the same. Had anyone pointed that out in a constructive, loving manner, we might have all learned something. But since I have the loving support of black women in my personal life, I don't need it from folks on a blog who find it easier to spew nasty responses instead of trying to find a common ground. I assume Anovelista, that both WAOD and MOW are your sites. Congrats to you for doing what you believe in. I could have perhaps been one of your allies. But given the way that you handled what should have been a reasonable difference of opinion, I can't really believe you are as sincere in uplifting black women as you say. So I guess we'll both go back to doing what we do - you keep on blogging and I'll keep on doing what I do and have always done - support the black women I love in my life.

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Anovelista — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:58:55 -0000

Thank you again! I have absolutely heard Omarosa invoked in an office setting. For people that know few to NO black women - they get their knowledge of black women from the media. At this moment, Michelle Obama is the most prominent Black woman in the media and she is being written about and psychoanalyzed by a lot of people that don't know many if any Black people and know little to nothing about us and our history.

THAT is where I am coming from when I take my valuable time and contribute to Michelle Obama Watch.

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Anovelista — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:55:06 -0000

Well said Town! That's EXACTLY where I'm coming from.

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Anovelista — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:54:08 -0000

You set the negative, presumptuous and ultimately nasty tone with "Cry me a river. I can't see why folks are jumping to the defense of a sistah who can clearly defend herself, who has and Ivy League education, was working at a six-figure job and whose husband is running for President. I, in my daily struggles and the other sistahs I know, could use that same support."

I'm not "defending" Michelle Obama for my health - and neither are the other MOW bloggers. If you don't like her - fine. If you can't relate to her - fine. But don't walk into a thread talking about "cry me a river" and not expect a response.

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msmartin — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:38:10 -0000

Are you nieces children? If so, then I think Michelle would focus on people like their mother - husband or not.

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TRW — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:35:52 -0000

Actually, I didn't miss it at all. She has said from day one that while she 100% supports her husband, her main priority will always be the welfare of her young children who are going through a difficult transition as well.

And again, Michelle has never delivered a policy speech. I have heard her speak before and all she really talked about was her background and Barack's background and why he would be a good President. It wasn't geared toward policy. She doesn't want that to be her role. She is not Hillary Clinton. She is not Eleanor Roosevelt. She is Michelle Obama. And for the time being, it remains to be seen what kind of first lady she might be.

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Town — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:30:59 -0000

Who exactly "tore you down?" I am asking you to specify where I tore you down since you saw fit to call me out for not believing you were a black woman, when I never did. People want to talk about Michelle Obama. If you don't, scroll the hell on to the next blog entry. Or better yet, don't click onto blogs like "Michelle Obama Watch."

It's silly for you to claim that you're not jealous or dripping with hateration when from post one you say "cry me a river, why they be defending Michelle, who cares if she has a six figure income and a man." Like I said before I see EXACTLY where you're coming from.

You don't want to start up your blog discussing issues that are near and dear to you? Fine. But don't get mad when people start up blogs dealing with issues that are near and dear to them. And then when you get called out you claim "people are tearing you down." Say wha? If Michelle Obama offends you so, all ya gotta do is click that red X in the upper right hand corner and keep it moving.

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NO ID — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:15:50 -0000

Wow, sisters, really? It's okay to defend one black woman in the public eye while tearing down another you've never met for expressing her opinion? You can't see where that's contradictory?
What's amazing is that I just spent a wonderful few hours with the most fabulous black women I know -- my nieces. And you know what, Michelle Obama didn't come up once, because again in our day to day, she doesn't loom that large. But if she does in yours, I don't judge you for it. As for venom, and jealousy? Well, it would admittedly be nice to have my own six-figure job and handsome, accomplished man, sure. But I don't begrudge Michelle or any other black woman any of those lovely things.
For the record, and not that it's important, but I don't have children so that is not MY particular issue. But I'm sure it resonates for many women.

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taritac — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:32:36 -0000

About Democrats, environmentalists, and gas: While they emphasize new and alternative technologies, the Democrats and environmentalists are not keeping oil companies from drilling. The oil companies have about 65 million acres of leased, untapped off-shore land that they could access TODAY if they were so inclined. They want Congress to okay additional acreage because it would be cheaper and easier to drill in new areas than in the areas they have leased.

I am not sympathetic to this position. From what I understand, it will cost about $150 million to build a rig to drill in deep waters. In light of the billions upon billions in profits oil companies have earned just in the last year, they should have plenty of capital to begin building and drilling.

Bombing people: Obama has made it clear that he is willing to use military options, much to the dismay of ME and other doves on the left. For example, he has said that he would be willing to go into Pakistan to get al Qaeda if Pakistan leadership were unwilling. However, he has also made clear that bombs will not be a substitute for diplomacy nor a first resort .

Really, re-read Obama's Blueprint for Change. I found it to be quite detailed. In fact, it is much more detailed than what is available on John McCain's website.

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GreenLadyHere — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:00:31 -0000

rikyrah: Co-signing on the reasons NOT to take Mrs. Obama on this "DISCOVERY TREK". They are both attorneys and understand the DISCOVERY PROCESS. This is NOT a PLEASURE TRIP and Mr. Obama clearly KNOWS [emphasis on the KNOW as compared to forgot most of what he ever knew - "mcancient"] the gravity of this mission.

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Coby_D — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:56:07 -0000

taritac, again thanks.

and GreenLady, thank you as well. You just ended my moment of weakness.

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GreenLadyHere — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:48:15 -0000

craig: YES!!!!! Amen! The End!

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GreenLadyHere — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:46:31 -0000

craig: Co-signing. I have a military brother who says the same thing. Guess he won't be running for POTUS. :>) :>) :>) :>) And I won't be a FIRST SISTER! But guess what - DR. MICHELLE OBAMA WILL BE!!! yAAAAAA! :>) :>)

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msmartin — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:42:16 -0000

I'm sorry you feel this way. I think Michelle had women like you in mind when she spoke about focusing on issues affecting women if she becomes first lady.

Besides, if just one of us is doing better, that's one more than before. I love all my sisters and wish you well in your mind body and soul and do not begrudge you for succeeding - that just gives me hope that I might be able to.