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Monday Open Thread

Started by baratunde aka jack turner · 1 year ago

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Alright. Enough talk about the new site. Back to work. What’s good? What did we miss over the weekend? Drop it like it’s hot!

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51 comments

  • smoothie

    1 year ago

    While driving to work today. I was listening to Bill Bennett.
    His guest was Jil Stanek.
    She's scheduled to appear on CNN today to discuss Barack's stance
    on Infantcide in response to the exchange that occured between Donna Brazile and Bill Bennett. This woman is also planning a 527 ad.

    I bring this women up, b/c I see the new push being Roe V. Wade. Even supporters of Hillz should know that Barack fully supports Womens Rights.

    She actually had the nerve to tie Jeremiah Wright, Barack Obama, and the Hospital she worked at all together in regards to Barack's stance on Babies born after aboriton.
    When asked by Bill Bennett, what was Father Pfleger's (TRYING TO USE AND PLAY THE CATHOLICS AGAINST ABORTION CARD) stance she had no idea.
    At the end of this interview, it prompted Bill Bennett to say. " And he wants to be President. Not of my country"

    I really wish the fairness doctrine passes. We need LEFT representaion down here in TEXAS bad!
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  • Sepia

    1 year ago

    What happened between Donna Brazile and Bill Bennett?
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  • djchefron

    1 year ago

    Well according to Bill, Obama will have to kiss my *ss if he wants my help.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/usel...
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  • Town

    1 year ago

    Maybe Ann Dunham should have been allowed to abort Barack Obama Jr. After all, according to Bill Bennett, the world is a better place when black babies are aborted.
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  • msmartin

    1 year ago

    What? When and how did he say this?
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  • recusancy

    1 year ago

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  • djchefron

    1 year ago

    Now I know the media doesn't want to hear about this but shouldn't the McCains pay their taxes seeing how proud they are to live in this country
    http://www.newsweek.com/id/143775/
    And while they at it McCain's base the media should compare the different tax policies
    http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/103...
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  • goldenstar

    1 year ago

    I think that The Field at http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/http:... should be included in the More Political Blogs list.

    Love, love, love the new toys and look @JJP!
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  • evita

    1 year ago

    Looks like it is time to question McCain's POW status as a qualification for being POTUS. Apparently he lacks "command experience" and namely "wartime experience."

    GAME ON.
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  • Darth_Marc

    1 year ago

    Please tell me you've read this...wow...

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/usel...
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  • Darth_Marc

    1 year ago

    Looks like someone beat me to it...never mind...
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  • Webb

    1 year ago

    Nice new blog site. I'm going to have to create a disqus account in the near future...

    I'm so glad that Wesley Clark addressed the notion of how being a POW makes you a better Commander-in-Chief?

    Finally.
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  • djchefron

    1 year ago

    The media is trying to push back against Gen. Clark and Obama since McCain's record is off limits.Go to this link and show your support by sighning the petition.Peace
    http://ga3.org/campaign/petitionclark
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  • Justice58

    1 year ago

    Hi all,

    Nice! Got to get use to it! Not real sure what I'm doing right now! lol
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  • Admiral_Komack

    1 year ago

    I've created an account.

    Someone needs to tell Bill Clinton, "Dude, it's not about YOU!"

    I really wish Obama would say, "Kiss YOUR ass?"
    "No."
    "How about YOU pay YOUR own debt!"
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  • Rhondacoca

    1 year ago

    lol
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  • Khufu

    1 year ago

    John McCain graduated #894 out of a class of #,the bottom 1/2 percent, from the U.S. Naval Academy in 1958 . Moreover, his father and grandfather got him into the Elite flying school,"Airdales" inspite of hs academic performance or lack thereof. Therefore he is no match for Barack Obama who graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School. Plus John McCain crashed 5 airplanes and his father protected him . Yet when his father died in 1991he left 1 week later.....to be continued...
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  • christopher Chambers

    1 year ago

    I'm still reeling over "Hard Times at Douglass High" on HBO, and the fact that Mugabe is an embarrassment to all black folks in the Diaspora. How's that?
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  • Khufu

    1 year ago

    NB....#899 out of #899
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  • artchess

    1 year ago

    Did anyone see Barack's speech on patriotism today? One of his best.

    P.S. Great new site :)
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  • Rhondacoca

    1 year ago

    How did she bring up Jeremiah wright and Pfleger? What did they say? These people make me laugh because they seem to know very little about those two men.
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  • msmartin

    1 year ago

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  • CraigHickman

    1 year ago

    I can't believe Barack rejected Clark's statement. It's true. This is definitely the silly season.

    And speaking of silly:

    The World's Fastest Man is Homosexual!
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  • Karmi

    1 year ago

    Sheesh! A "homosexual filter"?!
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  • kenyaw

    1 year ago

    Craig,
    I thought that was silly as well. I don't want to hear of another reject or denounce from the Obama campaign. I really don't.
    It is dissapointing to see this simple media, that is dumbing down most Americans. It is sad that Gen Clark in making a simple reasonable statement is being used to make HEADLINE news.
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  • icebergslim

    1 year ago

    I am not picking up your current post on feedburner. Any suggestions?

    http://thisweekwithbarackobama.blogspot.com
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  • icebergslim

    1 year ago

    I fixed it, never mind....:)
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  • Karmi

    1 year ago

    Google shuts down anti-Obama sites.

    And, Now just imagine Blogger was the FEC

    Pro-Hillary supporters are not welcomed at Goggle's blogspot. At least 7 blogs were locked-out the other day.
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  • Karmi

    1 year ago

    Love the edit button...the entire new site, in fact.
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  • heartsandflowers

    1 year ago

    Like the new site and the way we can reply directly. Can you get rid of the white background though?
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  • kenyaw

    1 year ago

    I agree on the white background...
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  • lamh32

    1 year ago

    Reposted from the patriotism speech post..

    While I do think that Clark's point about McCain not having any real EXECUTIVE military experience was valid, I think that he went to far in the soundbyte department. That "..getting shot down" line compeletely overtook his point about mccain's experience and Obama had to distance himself.

    What's sad is this whole stupid thing about Clark completely overshadwoed what I think was a great speech by Obama today. Many on the netroots are too busy "dissing" Obama to realize what a great speech it was. If not for this whole Clark/McCain hoopla, the speech would have been more well receieved on it's own merits. Now it will only be analyzed based on its inference to "POW -gate"
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  • lexusoakland

    1 year ago

    Look who the latest racially inflammatory ads come from...

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/30/black-...
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  • CraigHickman

    1 year ago

    That's disgusting and not at all surprising. I'm sure there will be a main post shortly by one of our illustrious contributing editors on this.
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  • akonuche

    1 year ago

    How pathetic. Self-hate is a terrible thing.

    I've got a video for you. If anyone tells you that racism hasn't been in the coverage of Obama's run, have them take a look at this. I'm sure many here will agree with Harriet "Christian" that 99% of us black folk are all backing Obama solely because he is black.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ti19VwLzkY

    Pass it on so more people can be aware of this bullshit.
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  • Karmi

    1 year ago

    Didn’t look or sound like an “attack” to me. Ads offered the facts. HuffPo didn’t link to the NBRA though, and only showed a few of the ads. One link has six more ads. HuffPo shows the one with three ads.

    National Black Republican Association

    Look for the “Radio Ads” section, about a ¼ of the way down.


    NBRA Martin Luther King Was A Republican     (six ads)
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  • EarthTone

    1 year ago

    These attacks on Obama will have minimal effect, if any, in the black community. In fact, they could backfire on blacks in the GOP.

    Black Republicans already have a bad image in the minds of black voters; consider this.

    I think a lot of black voters will come to think that black Republicans are doing the GOP's "dirty work" by running these negative attack ads. This will not help black Republicans' reputation among African Americans, but rather, damage it.
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  • Karmi

    1 year ago

    I know...I know, "Field Negroes" are in the majority, and consider Black Republicans to be "House Negroes". How can the ads hurt them any more?
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  • EarthTone

    1 year ago

    How can the ads hurt them more?

    Well, right now, many black folks think of black Republicans as being "wrong" on the issues.

    These attack ads present black Republicans as not just "wrong" but "bad." They're now going beyond having unwelcome positions, to now using unwelcome campaign tactics.

    I think that could generate more ill will against the black GOP, especially for the part of the black electorate that is becoming sensitized to the attacks on Barack and also Michelle Obama.
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  • Karmi

    1 year ago

    The Democratic Party has been duping and using "black folks" for decades now, and they need to really look at the issues. The NBRA ads are presenting the facts, and facts harm no one...well, other than the Democratic Party, perhaps.
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  • EarthTone

    1 year ago

    We will have to agree to disagree. The comment that the Democratic Party has been duping and using "black folks" is debatable.

    Meanwhile, the existence of the GOP Southern Strategy to appeal to white racist ex-Dixiecrats is a fact that was acknowledged by no less than Ken Mehlman - see http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/18/washington/18...

    I am familiar with the NBRA. The cling a lot to the black Republican past, which is understandable, because they seem to have little going for them in the present...

    It is all well and good for them to attack Obama, but I would think they want to be known for more than just being the GOP's black hatchet men. (One ad states "Obama is an arrogant elitist who turned his back on poor blacks and his own country." Yes, that is hatchet-ry.)

    But then, my thinking on what black Republicans want to be known for could be wrong. Perhaps in the end, these ads are pretty much what they're about, no more, no less.
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  • Akonuche

    1 year ago

    Can I just say how much this site rocks? I love the new look!

    Okay...enough of that from me now.
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  • Town

    1 year ago

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  • CraigHickman

    1 year ago

    You're kidding, right?
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  • Town

    1 year ago

    Sadly, I'm not. The one person who looked like they "might" be a person of color was seen during the part where he was talking about moving the people off the welfare rolls. I realize he has to appeal to the "mainstream" but I've seen more black people in a John McCain ad.
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  • CraigHickman

    1 year ago

    Of course you have. Because John McCain is targeting non-white people and Barack is targeting non-black people.

    There's an election that needs to be won.
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  • Town

    1 year ago

    lol,aw come on, he could have had ONE black guy working in the factory.
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  • EarthTone

    1 year ago

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  • pjamma

    1 year ago

    Love the new site! Congrats on the move
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  • taritac

    1 year ago

    Site looks great. Congratulations!!

    Obama is not getting any money from me this month-- Father's Day, FISA, denouncing and rejecting Clark, liking the handgun decision, wanting to expand the death penalty to include child rape, have all been giant disappointments to me. I know the conventional wisdom says that Democrats have to run to the center, but every time we do that we lose.

    He put himself in this position of having to please his most ardent supporters, many of whom are liberal, in order to get campaign dollars. When he disappoints us, we don't give. I have a feeling his June numbers are going to be way down.
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  • taritac

    1 year ago

    Also, has anyone heard about this? Three states have anti-affirmative action measures on ballots: http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/30/affirmati...
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