Jack and Jill Politics - Latest Comments in Monday Open Thread

Re: Monday Open Thread

Guest — Sun, 19 Apr 2009 01:42:12 -0000

As individuals I think by learning something new it expands and improves who and what we are. Everyone should keep learning and never stop.

Re: Monday Open Thread

NMP — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:12:10 -0000

I trust your judgement, Craig.
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Re: Monday Open Thread

NMP — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:11:11 -0000

Someone else made that point, and it's a very good point!
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Re: Monday Open Thread

NMP — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:11:10 -0000

Good point!
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Re: Monday Open Thread

GreenLadyHere13 — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:04:01 -0000

hustleandfloe: ". . . . one-blade ceiling fan. . . " ROTHLMHO!!!! :>)

I am tha -rough!!:>) :>)

Obama-Biden '08!

Re: Monday Open Thread

GreenLadyHere13 — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:09:33 -0000

lamh: I will go "Field Trippin'"! Thanks. :>)

Obama-Biden '08!

Re: Monday Open Thread

GreenLadyHere13 — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:50:32 -0000

rikyrah: BUT, it will be interesting IF "The Gov." is among the witnesses! :>)

Obama-Biden '08!>/b

Re: Monday Open Thread

hustleandfloe — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:27:59 -0000

shameless big up to Roland Martin, if only because he's the exact same brother he's been since the days at Texas A&M - hustling harder than a one-blade ceiling fan at his journalism craft - (even while on line. nah - the old kind, nobody's "online" in '87 cept those few in computer lab) sweatpants, high top sneaks (I think the Olajuwon's - paying H-town respect)...and steno pad glued to hand. we were 1200 black students of total enrollment 43,000 (surprise, the numbers are the same from 1986 today... no surprise) - and he made a real mark, as many of those 1200. good to see him stirring conversation on screen.

Re: Monday Open Thread

rikyrah — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:11:51 -0000

this trial doesn't seem that complicated.

he had income he didn't report.

I hope they nail him.

Re: Monday Open Thread

hustleandfloe — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:21:22 -0000

thx for this. this whole "I know it because I'm next to it" osmotic method of expertise-havin' is the worst result of our newly palin-driven, Alaska's-next-to-Russia hoodwinkery.

my fam's been deployed a bunch of times in places all over the world. we talk, but I can't extrapolate that into knowledge of national security. Besides, they, just like Palin's son, have a whole lot of stuff that they CANNOT tell me, anyway. Apart from giving some real and necessary empathy to use in policy-making, having family over there ain't near 'bouts enough when it comes to making decisions for a nation. Some folks with kids over there say we shoulda just laid that joint flat on day one. Others say you shouldnt'a sent my kid there in the first place.

Which one should be President? (The second, but not by resume.)

Re: Monday Open Thread

antennaness — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:14:52 -0000

thx hustleandfloe. Its really ironic that Palin represents the the dark side (knight), I guess sadly the joker would be race. She had been brought in as the great white hope to save the day.

Re: Monday Open Thread

monica — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:01:58 -0000

i thought this was interesting...from bloomberg

http://www.bloomberg.com/ap...

Re: Monday Open Thread

Town — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:59:11 -0000

Dang, next they'll say if she eats cous cous she's an expert on the Middle East.

Re: Monday Open Thread

hustleandfloe — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:30:42 -0000

antennaness. thx for this. dead on and cleanly worded opinion to be taken, unfortunately, very seriously.

Re: Monday Open Thread

TRW — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:10:08 -0000

FYI---William Donaldson is a Republican and has endorsed Barack, and was quoted in Bloomberg News as saying that he was talking to Barack about the housing issues as far back as a year ago.

Re: Monday Open Thread

GreenLadyHere13 — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:54:30 -0000

Rikyrah: From my "Field Trip" to mudflats:

http://mudflats.wordpress.c...
Ted Stevens Trial Gears Up

Today’s the day. After three unsuccessful attempts to get the case thrown out, jury selection in the Ted Stevens trial will begin today.

SKIP

For all the good Stevens has done, there are many who think his time is over. Ex-Governor Walter Hickel, who appointed Stevens to his senate seat in 1968 has even said it’s timefor the very senior senator to retire. Stevens has deteriorated a lot in the last few years. His frequent stammering is almost incomprehensible. His belligerence is alienating many Alaskans who used to revere him. And sometimes he’s just downright embarrassing… Wearing a tie featuring the Incredible Hulk on the Senate floor, and his reference to the internet as a “series of tubes” has begun to define his national image, more than his actual policies.

SKIP

So for those of you who are suffering from Sarah-fatigue, take heart. Alaska is an endless source of the strange, the sordid, and the knee deep muck of Alaskan politics.

Mudflats is just "on it!" :>)

Obama-Biden '08!

Re: Monday Open Thread

GreenLadyHere13 — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:45:27 -0000

nickwah22:
1. Co-sign! But, I'm believin' that some of "McAncient's" campaign funds will go to anyone who even "thinks about" saying something NEGATIVE about her after this "meeting!?"

2.Also, IMHO, the MSM will not throw "The Gov." under the proverbial bus, unless and until she publicly renounces her citizenship of the US of A. They are this fawning -IMHO!

I'll be waiting for them to use the "icing" so that I can lick the bowl! :>)

O.K. Maybe that's a little over the edge! :>)

Obama-Biden '08!

Re: Monday Open Thread

MonieTalks — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:34:16 -0000

I came across this article while looking for others.....this is over 2 years old but describes Goldman Sachs, when Hank Paulson was at the helm.

$521,000: The average pay of Goldman Sachs employees and that includes secretaries

By Stephen Foley in New York
Sunday, 12 February 2006

They call it Goldmine Sachs. And well they might. Because the Wall Street giant has become the first major investment bank to see its average salary top half a million dollars.

The extraordinary figure is disclosed in the company's latest regulatory filings and comes as a record bonus season draws to a close on both sides of the Atlantic.

It is sure to be used to entice people to join the bank, which expects to boost its number of employees by up to 10 per cent in anticipation of another bumper year for trading and mergers and acquisitions activity.

Last year, Goldman Sachs paid out $11.7bn (£6.7bn) to its 22,425 employees - around 3,000 of whom are in London.

Hank Paulson, the chairman and chief executive, was paid $38m in salary, shares and options - a 21 per cent increase on 2004. An average figure per staff member of $521,000 bursts through a barrier not even breached during the dot-com boom in 1999 and 2000.

This is a 12 per cent increase on the $466,000 average disclosed for 2004. It is twice the level of average pay at rivals Merrill Lynch and Morgan Stanley.

Wall Street banks are paying out a record $21.5bn in bonuses for 2005, according to New York State figures. That dwarfs 2004's $18.6bn and tops the previous record of $19.5bn in 2000. The average bonus in 2005 was $125,500 - some $25,000 more than in 2000

Deutsche Bank last week became the latest to disclose to its staff the bonus cheques they will soon be taking home. Some top executives will receive bonuses 75 per cent higher than last year.

The average bonus is believed to have increased by a double-digit percentage, and the subtle boast is meant to signal Deutsche's return to health after several lacklustre years.

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Of course now, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley have been granted a change in status from investment banks to bank holding companies by the Federal Reserve last night, amidst the "banking crisis."

Re: Monday Open Thread

GreenLadyHere13 — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:33:47 -0000

rikyrah: Look what I found at Daily Kos WOW!! 25,000 - 30,0000 rally for Mr. Obama in Charlotte, NC!!

http://www.dailykos.com/sto...
Daily Kos: State of the Nation

The pics are AMAZING!! Whooo! Hoo!! :>)

Obama-Biden '08!

Re: Monday Open Thread

Guest — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:30:05 -0000

I am actually very interested to see how her pow-wow with these UN leaders goes. At this point, I wouldn't want her to go on vacation to another country, much less represent America.

Will this be the icing on the cake for the MSM if she truly screws this up?

Re: Monday Open Thread

Texas_Girl_in_LA — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:28:38 -0000

This is pure comedy! Thanks Val

Re: Monday Open Thread

Texas_Girl_in_LA — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:26:12 -0000

Well said.

Re: Monday Open Thread

GreenLadyHere13 — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:24:49 -0000

nichwah22: Annnnnd, another thing: If she attends the "Tea Party" with foreign dignitaries/heads of state, will that make her more foreign to us?

Deep apologies to all foreigners!

Obama-Biden '08!

Re: Monday Open Thread

MonieTalks — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:21:20 -0000

Saw this at HuffPo:

Fury at $2.5bn Bonus for Lehman's New York Staff
Monday, September 22, 2008

Up to 10,000 staff at the New York office of the bankrupt investment bank Lehman Brothers will share a bonus pool set aside for them that is worth $2.5bn (£1.4bn), Barclays Bank, which is buying the business, confirmed last night

The revelation sparked fury among the workers' former colleagues, Lehman's 5,000 staff based in London, who currently have no idea how long they will go on receiving even their basic salaries, let alone any bonus payments. It also prompted a renewed backlash over the compensation culture in global finance, with critics claiming that many bankers receive pay and rewards that bore no relation to the job they had done.

A spokesman for Barclays said the $2.5bn bonus pool in New York had been set aside before Lehman Brothers filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy in the United States a week ago. Barclays has agreed that the fund should continue to be ring-fenced now it has taken control of Lehman's US business, a deal agreed by American bankruptcy courts over the weekend.

Barclays is paying $1.75bn for the US operation of Lehman and is keen to retain its best staff. It said it had made no promises to individual staff members about how much they will receive but that the bonus fund would be paid out. In addition to the $2.5bn cash pool, Barclays is also in negotiations with about 30 executives it considers to be Lehman's best assets and plans to offer them contracts worth tens of millions of dollars. British employees of Lehman described the bonus payments as a "scandal" as they waited anxiously yesterday to see whether a deal could be struck with buyers circling the bank's European operations.

Many of Lehman's UK staff are particularly angry about the US payouts because it has emerged that in the days running up to the bankruptcy, some $8bn in cash was transferred out of the account of the bank's European business into accounts at the New York head office.

http://www.independent.co.u...

These mofos set aside $2.5 billion BEFORE they declared bankrutcy----while Barclays is paying $1.75 billion to take them over. And on top of that, Barcalys wants to offer 30 executives from Lehman's contracts worth millions of dollars.

Ain't that a bitch-------and the government wants taxpayers to bailout other companies who are very likely doing the same unscrupulous things as Lehmans.

Re: Monday Open Thread

claudia_m — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:20:23 -0000

Evita, I really enjoyed reading your post. What a wonderful thing you are doing! I'm trying to get up the courage to volunteer myself (I live in South Carolina, so you can imagine what I would be up against....). I really want to do more than just give money and buy t-shirts (smile). Do you mind if I ask - what kind of training are you given to prepare for canvassing? Do you prefer going door to door rather than reaching out by phone?

Thanks again for your great work.