Jack and Jill Politics - Latest Comments in Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

Re: Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

RhondaCoca — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:46:00 -0000

Did anybody see this. It speaks for itself.

Did you guys see this cartoon

Re: Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

Anonymous — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:59:00 -0000

d., is that picture is you why did you post this:

D. said...

Anon 1:10,

That doesn't concern me. I seriously doubt I'm going to see many of my people going on lynching parties just 'cause Obama's in the White House.

Who are "my people"?

If Barack does go to Iraq I hope he brings every last one of our troops home with him. Bring our troops home.

Re: Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

teacher — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:48:00 -0000

Ms Rice said she was returning to the university when her current job ends.

I would love to see Rachel M. take MTP.

Re: Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

D. — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:26:00 -0000

Anon 344,

That's me.

And Obama can shovel dirt, he's got time to go to Iraq;

Hell, he should go out on patrol there.

Re: Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

Anonymous — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:44:00 -0000

d,
Why do you have that picture of an African American man standing next to a protrait of George Washington on your post? Surely you aren't trying to give the impression that you are an African American male.

Re: Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

TruthSeeker — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:52:00 -0000

So, Cindy's stealing recipes AGAIN!lol:
Re-Heat Offender: Cindy Bakes Another Whopper

Michelle's cookie:

Michelle Obama's Shortbread Cookies

Re: Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

rikyrah — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:10:00 -0000

diana,

think positive thoughts.

And he said IF HE HAS TIME.

I say, he should have no time.

Re: Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

Diana — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:03:00 -0000

It was on the news that Barack now says he'll go to Iraq & Afghanistan before the election if he has time. I was silently worrying about his safety when my twenty-year-old son said, "That's where they'll do it". Is it really inevitable? If all else fails I just hope he makes Gore the VP nominee.

Re: Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

rikyrah — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:54:00 -0000

Tiger won.

Re: Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

Webb — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:51:00 -0000

LMAO...
A former bundler to Hillary Clinton just called in to tell me that Barack Obama's selection of Patti Solis Doyle as chief of staff to the campaign's eventual vice presidential nominee is the biggest fuck you I have ever seen in politics.

Re: Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

heartsandflowers — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:38:00 -0000

Condi won't have daily access to her 'husband' the way she does now! She will be buying shoes and seeing Broadway shows or whatever the heck she wants. She is set for life. If Colin Powell had resigned before lying to the UN he'd be respected by a lot more people and wouldn't have so much blood on his hands.

Re: Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

Pamela — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:25:00 -0000

Question: WHat do you think Condi Rice will be doing post-Bush Administration?

I think she will be back at Stanford eventually returning to her role as Provost or lobbying for her dream job as NFL commissioner.

Re: Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

rikyrah — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:21:00 -0000

From The New Republic:

Hillary's Martyrdom Isn't All It's Cracked Up To Be

I'm all for counterintuitive articles, and John Heilemann's big New York story making the case that Hillary has emerged from her defeat a "more resonant, consequential, and potent figure than she has ever been before" is a good one. But I'd like to take exception to one point Heilemann makes. He writes:

It was only after Bill Clinton’s impeachment ordeal that he became a beloved figure on the traditional left, which had long regarded him warily before his persecution by the special prosecutor and the congressional Republicans. WJC, in other words, was fortunate in his enemies. Now HRC finds herself similarly blessed; in Chris Matthews she appears to have found her own version of Ken Starr. It’s been said before, but it bears repeating once again. Whatever else one thinks about the Clintons, there’s no denying that martyrdom has been very, very good to them.

This is true up to a point, but Hillary's martyrdom differs from Bill's in one key detail: he survived impeachment; she didn't survive the Democratic primary. Heilemann makes it clear that Hillary still wants to be president, but it's really hard to see how she'll ever accomplish that. If Obama wins, she won't be able to run until 2016, when she'll be 69 and as fresh as Hubert Humphrey was in 1968. And if Obama loses, a decent segment of black and activist liberal voters will probably hold Hillary at least partly responsible for his defeat, no matter how hard (and how disingenuously) she campaigns for him this fall. And as Hillary learned in '08, you can't win a Democratic primary without those voters. In other words, Hillary's martyrdom might have made her more resonant, consequential, and potent, but I don't think it's made her more presidential.

--Jason Zengerle

Re: Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

D. — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:17:00 -0000

Anon 1:10,
That doesn't concern me. I seriously doubt I'm going to see many of my people going on lynching parties just 'cause Obama's in the White House.

But speaking of Iraq.....anyone know where else Obama's supposed overseas trip is taking him besides the UK? Seems to me, to quell the fires, he'd go to Iraq first.....

Re: Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

Anonymous — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:10:00 -0000

Send Wolf Blitzer to Iraq and he can take d. and all the other neocon warmongers with him.

d., the links work for me. Basically the writer is saying neocons are afraid black folks are going to remember how bad they were treated by white folks and seek some kind of revenge if Obama is President. You may not be copying the whole link that is why you may not be able to get it to work for you.

Re: Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

rikyrah — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:07:00 -0000

Say a few prayers.

Mine collapse in Pennsylvania.

Re: Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

D. — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:04:00 -0000

Expect A Flood of Similar Images

This will be another way to imprint the idea "Obama is young and energetic; fit for the office"; McCain is too old and not up to the task.

Of course, McCain cannot lift shovels of dirt because of the injuries he was subjected to during his captivity in North Vietnam.

That will not be told.

Re: Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

rikyrah — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:04:00 -0000

Re: Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

rikyrah — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:03:00 -0000

WTF Wolf Blitzer - what the hell does Obama going or not going to Iraq have to do with Gore's endorsement?

Re: Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

rikyrah — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:02:00 -0000

truthseeker,

I see that...in Michigan tonight.

Re: Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

TruthSeeker — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:53:00 -0000

http://www.huffingtonpost.c...

With video of Obama sandbagging.

Re: Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

D. — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:36:00 -0000

Anon 1154:
You link still doesn't work.

Mayber there's nothing for neocons like myself to be scared of after all. :)

Re: Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

TruthSeeker — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:15:00 -0000

Al Gore endorses Obama. Check the campaign website.

Re: Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

Anonymous — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:54:00 -0000

BAM!
"Could it be that this scrutiny of Obama's influences springs from the anxiety white people have that black people will remember how awful we've been to them and start treating us the way we've treated them? Both McCain and Clinton have been linked to ministers and ministries as outrageous as Wright and Pfleger. Why are Obama's links being obsessed over and theirs barely mentioned?

It seems that the fear coursing behind reaction to Rev. Wright has not much to do with politics, or even theology, and everything to do with the living pain still surrounding race in our land."

http://www.al.com/huntsvill...

Re: Monday Open Thread – How was the weekend?

Anonymous — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:51:00 -0000

Solis joins Obama campaign

http://thecaucus.blogs.nyti...