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RonnieB — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 09:27:20 -0000

Which begs the questions:

(a) Which voters; and

(b) Which women?

If one were to poll 500 Black women, most likely the results would conclude that Blacks of both genders face much more discrimination than White women.

I believe Melissa Harris-Lacewell recently hit a homerun on this issue in her debate with Gloria Steinham, as well as a devastatingly astute op-ed piece.

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GreenLadyHere — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:04:35 -0000

He fell at the beginning of the trial race. He had to be taken off the track. :>(
Very sad.

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msmartin — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 01:06:01 -0000

What happened that he's not running the 200m?

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Sombody_took_my_username — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 00:48:52 -0000

"Skank Queen"...any relation to CPL's "Borg Queen"? lol.

I get the feeling the ballplayer's wife was looking for a way out.

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Teacher — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:59:43 -0000

I really don't believe Lenny Kravitz is involved. Why do you? He allowed a group of friends to stay in his house when he was out of town on tour. One of my hommies used to gig with him. When I met him he was surrounded by the skankiest white girls you have ever seen (skanks r us). This was in the 90's, so maybe he has matured in his tastes. Still, I would advise anyone go gets with him to request a thorough blood test.

Double for Madonna. She is the skank queen. I hope her fake a$$ gets backed over by one of those double decker British busses. She probably talked the guy into leaving his wife & babies. If he let her, he deserves what he gets, diseases and all. She will use him and drop him like Dennis Rodman. She sucks.

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Teacher — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:45:50 -0000

I just saw on CNN where he said he won't be VP under any circumstances. Too bad. He would've been a great asset.

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Teacher — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:43:14 -0000

Thanks for the jokes, friend.

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CraigHickman — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:51:41 -0000

Tell the truth and shame the D.

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CraigHickman — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:49:31 -0000

I wish they would make an exception for Gay, but he's okay with it, so I guess I ought to be.

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CraigHickman — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:42:31 -0000

Don't Ask Don't Tell.

End of story.

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Admiral_Komack — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:19:45 -0000

d. said:

"Mission Accomplished?"

"You don't think that's a little inappropriate?"

"Yes, the system failed PFC Dwyer. It fails thousands of service members. That's not in dispute."

"But to hold a fellow servicemember's death up to make a political statement?"

"I shouldn't be surprised; that's typical liberal sentiment ("the soldiers are all unwilling victims!!"). But from another vet?"

-I guess it's OK when the Army does it, though.

"Myths shaped Pat Tillman's reputation, and mystery shrouded his death. A long-haired, fierce-hitting defensive back with the Arizona Cardinals of the National Football League, he turned away a $3.6 million contract after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to volunteer for the war on terrorism, ultimately giving his life in combat in Taliban-infested southeastern Afghanistan."

"Millions of stunned Americans mourned his death last April 22 and embraced his sacrifice as a rare example of courage and national service. But the full story of how Tillman ended up on that Afghan ridge and why he died at the hands of his own comrades has never been told."

"Dozens of witness statements, e-mails, investigation findings, logbooks, maps and photographs obtained by The Washington Post show that Tillman died unnecessarily after botched communications, a mistaken decision to split his platoon over the objections of its leader, and negligent shooting by pumped-up young Rangers -- some in their first firefight -- who failed to identify their targets as they blasted their way out of a frightening ambush."

"The records show Tillman fought bravely and honorably until his last breath. They also show that his superiors exaggerated his actions and invented details as they burnished his legend in public, at the same time suppressing details that might tarnish Tillman's commanders."

"Army commanders hurriedly awarded Tillman a posthumous Silver Star for valor and released a nine-paragraph account of his heroism that made no mention of fratricide. A month later the head of the Army's Special Operations Command, Lt. Gen. Philip R. Kensinger Jr., called a news conference to disclose in a brief statement that Tillman "probably" died by "friendly fire." Kensinger refused to answer questions."

"Friends and family describe Pat Tillman as an American original, a maverick who burned with intensity. He was wild, exuberant, loyal, compassionate and driven, they say. He bucked convention, devoured books and debated conspiracy theories. He demanded straight talk about uncomfortable truths."

"After his death, the Army that Tillman served did not do the same."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A...

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msmartin — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:55:16 -0000

If she only blogs about black socialites I guess then Blogger X is elite enough for her to write about. I 've seen this blog and it is tired and if she were as elite as she thinks she is, she wouldn't have fawned over driving a convertible sebring - please!

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Karmi — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:38:36 -0000

Toddlers who dislike spicy food 'racist' ...Socialism/Communism at 'wOrK':

"This could include a child of as young as three who says "yuk" in response to being served unfamiliar foreign food."

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rikyrah — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:35:56 -0000

s,

I had not seen it, but it's ok. I just believe a possible Black First Lady deserves her respect, and it seems the blog owner disagrees. It's cool.

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Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:22:23 -0000

@Rikyrah

Did you see this from that black socialite blog?

Blogger X and Other Misadventures in the Blogosphere

The most bizarre thing happened to me recently.

I was misquoted by a Sister Blogger who did not identify herself when contacting me.

Blogger X (as she will be affectionately referred to in this posting) sent me an email last month querying me as to why I have not done a post on a particular political candidate’s wife. I replied to her and kept it moving.

About a week later I learned that Blogger X is well…Blogger X. I find this out because my email became loaded with notes about Black Elitism in America. Apparently Blogger X’s posting entitled “The John Does Are Not Elite and That’s Fine With Me” (along with my alleged reply) was crossed linked to several other Black political and socio-cultural blogs.

All I could say is wow…

Meanwhile, back at the ranch – Blogger X has yet to tell me that she reinterpreted my email for her blogging pleasure.

So good people, here’s the verbatim email exchange between me and Blogger X so you can get in on the fun:

Blogger X writes:

Mrs. John Doe doesn't warrant a post?

Just wondering

My reply on June 19th reply via email:
"Hello,

This blog features people who are considered Black Socialites.

I tend to not cover politicians or their family members as they are represented in other media outlets.

Have a good day!

The Black Socialite”

Blogger X’s translation of my reply on her blog:

“One of my guilty pleasures is the blog The Black Socialite. Searching through (The Black Socialite blog’s) archives, I discovered that no post had ever been done on Mrs. John Doe. I thought it was quite odd…so, I emailed the site owner. In a very polite email, she informed me that hers was a blog about people who had been involved in Society, and Mrs. John Doe didn't qualify.”

Blogger X also decided to not be ‘snarky' with me (in her words) since I elected to cover Harold Ford’s marriage to a young White Socialite on this blog (although Blogger X used what I would coin as epithets to describe Ford and his wife).

Now, for the record good people – my reply would not have changed if she had told me she wanted to use it for a blog.

What I don’t like is being misquoted.

Here’s something I find interesting folks. Someone who appears to be anti-elitism (or at least enough to blog about it) is a self admitted fan of The Black Socialite.

Hence ladies and gentleman, you have before you an example of the class quagmire in Black America. So many of us love, hate, and love to hate the elite of our people. There also seems to be some common thinking that inclusion into the elite should be afforded to all individuals who can check off the boxes of “Black and successful” underneath their names.

It has never worked that way and I doubt that it ever will.

We are extremely fortunate in Black America to have scores of Black folks in politics now – many of whom could be written about on this blog.

But, here’s the catch…I write about topics, people, and places that interests me. I can count on one hand the number of times I have featured politicos and their families on this blog.

It’s for a reason ladies and gentleman.

Because - and I quote “this blog features people who are considered Black Socialites. I tend to not cover politicians or their family members as they are represented in other media outlets.”

Hopefully, I won’t have to repeat myself again dang-nab-it!

Happy blogging to Blogger X. And a special 'shout out' to all other closet fans (and meanies too) who enjoy this blog on the DL (grins!)

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Coby_D — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:13:47 -0000

One, I don't listen to Limbaugh. Two, I very rarely-if ever-read RedState. Three, I wouldn't accept this from Fox News either.

There goes that "assuming" thing again.....

Probably the only way I'd accept this is if the campaigns themselves released the numbers of a withdrawal plan. And even then, McCain's numbers would be exaggerated to show that it costs more, and Obama's would be exaggerated to cost less.

I said it's plausible only because there would be an effect on the economy if the wars in Iraq/Afghanistan were to just magically disappear.

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djchefron — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:58:46 -0000

So if Redstate,Limbaugh or Faux news say it then it is the gospel?

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Coby_D — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:52:48 -0000

Plausible, yes; likely, no.....though I'd want to see the numbers from somewhere other than HuffPo before passing final judgement.

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djchefron — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:45:29 -0000

You must be talking about Jonnie Capehart.You know that the "wise sage" David(Bush will enjoy new popularity) Broder laid the law down that McCain whatever he says is the law and we the media shall never question his statements, so Capehart is just doing his masters bidding

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Val2 — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:44:14 -0000

I saw that djchefron, laughed and moved on. I said the same as you . . . I know they really dont believe this . . . lol

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djchefron — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:41:57 -0000

I know republicans really dont believe this
McCain: I'll Cut The Deficit By Winning Iraq War
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/07/fact-c...

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Val2 — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:40:50 -0000

Why is Sam a terrible choice Craig? Would appreciate your opinion.

- Val

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rikyrah — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:34:02 -0000

Obama's Brain Trust

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rikyrah — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:33:18 -0000

The Horn-Rimmed Handkerchief Head was at it again. He's useless.

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Tish — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:23:34 -0000

Prayers for Timothy Wright and his family.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/07/nyregion/07pa...

(not sure how to do links(