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Re: More Guns Don’t Equal Less Crime

heartsandflowers — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:20:00 -0000

Yeah, but the ease with which people get guns who SHOULD NOT HAVE THEM makes this ruling very dangerous!

Re: More Guns Don’t Equal Less Crime

TLW — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:32:00 -0000

Owning guns do not lead to a person committing crimes. If you want to reduce crime, you usually want to attack the cause of the high crime rate which is usually poverty, a broken education system, dearth of economical opportunity, etc. These gun laws only "attacks" a SYMPTOM of the higher crime rate and does not solve the CAUSE of the high crime rate.

Re: More Guns Don’t Equal Less Crime

Anonymous — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:37:00 -0000

"A couple of things do seem certain, however. The Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution was not adopted to provide a right to have a gun for personal use, according to the U.S. Supreme Court; rather, the Second Amendment was adopted for national defense. (Gun rights currently stem from state laws.)"
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The Second Amendment reads, "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."(emphasis added)

Bill of Rights protects individual rights

This is clearly, as are the other rights identified in the Bill of Rights, an individual right, not a group right. You will notice the language makes this plain: it does not protect the right of a militia to bear arms, but the right of the people to bear arms.

Albert Gallatin, Secretary of the Treasury for Presidents Jefferson and Madison, explicitly declared, "The whole of that Bill [of Rights] is a declaration of the rights of the people at large or considered as individuals ... It establishes ... rights of the individual as inalienable."

Re: More Guns Don’t Equal Less Crime

Cameron — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:06:00 -0000

Jill - you might wanna check this out.

http://www.worldnetdaily.co...

Yeah, its World Net Daily, but the argument still stands.

Re: More Guns Don’t Equal Less Crime

Jill Tubman — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:01:00 -0000

guttaperk -- i'm going to need you to re-read my post and click on some of the links. the evidence is strongly in favor of gun laws reducing crime. this is an emotional issue that leads people to ignore the facts. Americans don't like to be told what they can and cannot do and that includes the buying of guns.

Re: More Guns Don’t Equal Less Crime

guttaperk — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:58:00 -0000

Is this an evidence-based position?

I am not a gun owner or wielder, but the evidence I have read is not strongly in favour of the effectiveness of gun control laws.