DISQUS

gc · 1 year ago

He's a patriot.

Craig Hickman · 1 year ago

Now he's a patriot.

adriana · 1 year ago

I caught this too.


Great comparison with Carville and his Republican wife. Seriously, Richardson stood by Bill Clinton in the face of Lewinsky and impeachment. Even Bill Clinton isn't completely loyal to Hillary. Since when did the Clinton machine become the Clinton mafia family?



I can only hope that Bill and Carville lose it again in public and that someone catches it on tape.

"Civil" · 1 year ago

WED APR 02'04
YOU SHILL DON'T GET IT

TruthSeeker · 1 year ago

If someone gives you a couple jobs, do they own you for life? It really is disrespectful; it implies Richardson couldn't make it on his own, and owes his entire career to the Clinton's. Throwing your lot in with the Clinton's is like a deal with the devil.


I don't care what he told the Clinton's, what matters is what he DID.

Anonymous · 1 year ago

If he's such a hero , then why did'nt he endorse Obama before his states primary and give him the win there . He's an opportunist ...

justice58 · 1 year ago

The Clinton's act as if Bill Richardson owes them for the rest of his life!


Bill Clinton didn't give a sh%t about loyalty to Hillary when it came to Monica! And when confronted about it---he threw Monica under the bus & lied!

Craig Hickman · 1 year ago

Obama likely did win New Mexico. And then those ballots from three delegate-rich precincts disappeared into the hands of a Clinton supporter and a week later: Voila. Clinton wins New Mexico by a hair.

Ms.Martin · 1 year ago

"That era, personified by Carville and his ilk, has passed and I believe we must end the rancor and partisanship that has mired Washington in gridlock."


This is it in a nutshell. The Clintons don't get it, but they will when it's over.

Anonymous · 1 year ago

So he supports Obama he's an opportunist. He doesn't support Obama.... he's still an opportunist? That's the kind of logic that we don't need.

cm · 1 year ago

Prior to the [Richardson's] endorsement of Obama, [Hillary] told him flatly, "He cannot win, Bill. He cannot win."


http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/candidate-clint.html



She's just a hot mess. The utter gall of making a claim like that - she can't even win the primary!



I would like Hillary to just come out publicly and say she believes Obama can't win because he's black. Halperin and other reporters know this is her argument but they keep dancing around it. Someone needs to force her to say this on the record.

andy · 1 year ago

dear jack and jill, maybe richarson endorsed obama because he thinks obama is the best candidate for the party and the progressive agenda. maybe obama's graciousness means something to him. maybe he was moved by the speech. maybe he did what he did because it felt like the right thing to do. who is the snake? carville or richardson? who is the judas? war vote clinton or richardson? i think everybody gets it. and if they don't they are real dense.

Kat · 1 year ago

As someone who grew up in New Mexico, and still has family there, I NEVER thought Richardson would go against the Clintons, especially in the public, big rally way in which he did so.


So for him to do that, and publically call out Carville and the rest of the Clinton mafia....I underestimated the man.

rikyrah · 1 year ago

Another look at why Bill Clinton is so upset.


Money quote:



Barack Obama's election to the presidency in November would put a serious crimp in Bill Clinton's power, influence and resulting earnings. Obama and his Administration would, by virtue of their position, become the de facto leaders of the Democratic Party. Bill and Hillary Clinton will continue to be powerful forces in the Party, but the bulk of that power shifts from the Clinton's to the new guys in town. They become a good deal less marketable.



One can understand why the thought of losing all that might make Bill Clinton a little grumpy.

rikyrah · 1 year ago

As someone who grew up in New Mexico, and still has family there, I NEVER thought Richardson would go against the Clintons, especially in the public, big rally way in which he did so.


So for him to do that, and publically call out Carville and the rest of the Clinton mafia....I underestimated the man.



Me too. I never thought Richardson had it in him.

rikyrah · 1 year ago

Great post at TPMCafe


Why the Clintons are bigger racists than the unshaven drunk tossing around the n-word

Craig Hickman · 1 year ago

rikyrah, I'll go a step further and say that all the deals that Clinton has been making with world leaders to get all those dollars from his "speaking engagements" won't ever come to pass if he's not back in the White House.


Bill is running for his third term through his wife. He knows it; she knows it; America knows it; the world knows it.



It's one of the reasons why I've never considered Hillary Rodham Nixon a feminist. She's no Margaret Thatcher, a woman who made her own way to the top without the coattails of husband who was a former prime minister.

Nita · 1 year ago

Thank you for the link, rikyrah. A poster there, readytoblowagasket, wrote something interesting to me. I don't agree with readytoblowagasket's conclusion at all.... but I do wonder about this interpretation:


ready to blow a gasket wrote: "In reality, however, the Clintons are the guy on the barstool. That's what Toni Morrison meant by calling Bill Clinton the first black president: She meant Bill is white trash.



Interesting. Where Readytoblowagasket lost me was the next sentence.



And like blacks, a white-trash man is not allowed to be president because he isn't of the privileged class of whites.



Utter bullshit. And not just because it completely ignores the historical background (and actions) of some of our presidents. Then:



Morrison predicted Bill would be run out of town like a dog by the privileged white men who didn't want him there. And that's exactly what happened"



Bill and Hillary ran themselves out. And for being run out, they sure have accumulated a hell of power and chits.



But back to 'black' equaling 'white trash'... is that really an alternative interpretation of Morrison's quote? I guess it could be (thinking of 'Revelation') but that just undermines Readytoblowagasket's ultimate point (read the whole thing) more, for me.

GoldenAh · 1 year ago

>>But back to 'black' equaling 'white trash'... is that really an alternative interpretation of Morrison's quote?




I always thought that IS what she meant. I've read her books...



I thought her defining B. Clinton as "black" insults black men. Her use of the word 'trope' didn't change that for me. She turned B. Clinton 'black' in order to defend him in Paula-Monica-Oral-Gate. That turned her into an incoherent moron in my eyes.



Her words:

After all, Clinton displays almost every trope of blackness: single-parent household, born poor....



In her world perhaps, but I don't see that as a example of blackness.

Craig Hickman · 1 year ago

I adore Toni Morrison, but that discussion of hers about Bill Clinton still makes my blood boil.


She has endorsed Obama.

TruthSeeker · 1 year ago

@ craig hickman


..and those "leaders" are probably going to break his legs if he doesn't deliver. So, don't be mad when his face gets red and that finger starts wagging...he's fighting for his life!

babyming · 1 year ago

Adriana mentioned that the Clintons act like a Mafia family. I had the same thought, watching the way they reacted to Richardson's endorsement. It was like the Clintons thought they had some kind of scary power over Bill Richardson, and were furious to find out that they really had no power over him at all.


Remember when the Hillary campaign made that video, with Hillary and Bill in the restaurant, that was a spoof on the Sopranos finale?

libhom · 1 year ago

Carville, his wife, and the Clintons are hateful rightist whackjobs.