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Jack and Jill Politics: NAACP Spends Half of Jena 6 Money on NAACP

  • SquarePeg · 1 year ago
    What did you expect, competence, humility, forthrightness, clarity, judiciousness?


    Sadly, the NAACP is no longer an effective group that truly cares about the concerns of everyday Black folks, just the ones who preen and prance as part of the accepted group of African Americans that I would not want to be a part. These folks in the rarified air in which they live don't have an inkling as to the lives of the people who are suffering as they hold conventions in swanky overpriced hotels, conferences where the talk to each other, slapping themselves on the back in self-congratulatory kudos for the wonderful things they are doing. Where, what, how has the NAACP been effective anywhere? Someone else starts a movement to change something in the community and once the press shows up here comes the late and wrong NAACP to cash in and get their share of the glory. Sad but predictable. No wonder they have continually lost members. I would be surprised if they had 50,000 nationwide.



    Sad, sad, sad.
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    what's more sad is that defending boys who stomped on the head of a fellow human being & then went to a BET awards show has anything to do with civil rights.
  • D. · 1 year ago
    Concur with Peg; does that really surprise anyone?
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    We need to stop relying on the old guard to display any measure of competency or futility as it relates to civil rights and the overall improvement of the living conditions of black folk.


    And by old guard I mean all those organizations (sororities and fraternities, NAACP, Urban League, COGIC church, AME churh, etc) that refuse to let go of the old model of action (beg corporate america for money, steal half of the money and then give the leftover crumbs to the people they claim to advocate for).



    Its time to put them out to pasture or better yet, put them in a nursing home before they hurt themselves.
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    I think AverageBro said it best when he listed ways to make the NAACP more relevent:


    #1: Think Proactively - Police shootings may get you in the papers, but they're around #158 on the list of Black Folks' Real Issues. Switch up your approach or you'll be about as useful as a truckload of Gregory Abbott's Greatest Hits LP's. Which is to say you'll be about as relevant as you are at the present. Which is "not so much".



    #2 Education Matters Most - Social justice doesn't mean sh*t if you're in jail because you can't read. Use your resources and exposure to do something about the institutional issues that contribute to the academic achievement gap. Encourage parents to do the rest.



    #3 Reach Out To Bloggers - Find ways of using the Black Blogosphere to push your new proactive initiatives. We can disseminate info far faster than any other medium. Consider strengthening ties with the Black Church as well, albeit for different reasons.



    #4 Become More Visible - I seldom see the NAACP in the media for anything other than justice issues. You do indeed do lots of proactive stuff, or so your website says. But how come I never see any of that stuff?



    #5 Make Membership Free - Freedom ain't free, but that's no excuse to charge folks $30 just to be down. $15 for starving college students? Hell, I see you're even hitting up prisoners for $12. Do you have any idea what having $12 in your commissary can buy you in the clink? Me neither, but it's beyond the point. I know you have financial issues, but c'mon, your pay-to-play approach is obviously not cuttin' it. Shake down your corporate donors more, trim your organizational fat, and focus on adding real people to your roles.



    #6 Kill The "Image Awards" - Any awards show that gives best-in-class kudos to Robert Sylvester Kelly, DL Hughley, and the child who played Baby Girl on The Bernie Mac Show has zero cred from the jump. Get rid of this useless circle jerk and save some money in the process
  • KarmiCommunist · 1 year ago
    anon @ 1:19


    That's what the entire Democratic Party is about. The left has been in love with communism/socialism since the 1917(?) revolution.



    America's left loves mob rule, even though they have no clue what it leads to...beyond the fact that a violent mob can overthrow a government.



    Basically, once the mob has taken over, leaders emerge, and most of the former 'mob-members' discover that their lives are much worse than before. Why? Well, the new leaders know what mobs can do, so they clamp down - especially on any sign of dissent - by removing all individualistic thinking, freedoms, etc.



    "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." (Marx) might sound good, but it doesn't work.
  • PTCruiser · 1 year ago
    Back in the day when I was an undergraduate, many of us said that the letters NAACP stood for the National Association for the Advancement of Certain People.


    Not much has changed and I was an undergrad a long time ago.
  • PTCruiser · 1 year ago
    "We need to stop relying on the old guard to display any measure of competency or futility as it relates to civil rights and the overall improvement of the living conditions of black folk. "


    I hear you but I disagree. Who folks need to stop relying are those members of the old guard who I have identified as being second line inheritors of the legacy of the Civil Rights Movement. These individuals and the class interests they represented were a problem during the heyday of the Civil Rights Movement and they continue to be a problem because they refuse to move on.



    The problem is not generational as younger blacks and the MSM, including the black press, so often describe it. There are many, many of us who were active in the movement and we have never lost our sense of idealism or commitment to social change. We cannot and should not be lumped in with those who began to see the movement as a way to advance their own careers. Folks like Bob Moses, Marian Wright Edelman and Phil Hutchings are still fighting the good fight.
  • PTCruiser · 1 year ago
    "That's what the entire Democratic Party is about. The left has been in love with communism/socialism since the 1917(?) revolution. "


    You need to stop getting your history lessons from Ayn Rand's novels. I am willing to debate you on the issues but your historical facts are just way off-base. Let me give you just two examples. The infamous Palmer raids, named after the Attorney General Mitchell Palmer, took place when a Democrat, Woodrow Wilson, was president of the United States. Secret units of the military at the same time began spying on black civil rights leaders and dissidents all of whom were considered subversives.
  • rikyrah · 1 year ago
    CALL.THEM.OUT.


    Thanks for this.



    And, they wanted to throw dirt on Color-Of-Change?



    I.don't.think.so.



    Yes, expose them for what they are.



    Keep it up, Jill. They need to be called out.
  • heartsandflowers · 1 year ago
    Why am I not surprised? Hey - and no dissing Ayn Rand!! I'd love to be able to escape to my own self-sufficient private world. They were trying to be so slick about it too. It's also a lesson in doing due diligence. I do not give money to any organization that uses more than 10% towards administrative costs or other earmarks. For example, I used to give to United Way until I found out the top officials were giving themselves huge bonuses.


    I have a question. Since so many women support these old guard civil rights orgs how many of them are ones that would excuse behavior like R Kelly?
  • KarmiCommunist · 1 year ago
    PTCruiser @ 2:53


    Clearly the communist/socialist mobs weren't big enough when Wilson was President (NOTE: 1913-21), since the 'Seeds of Communism' had only just been planted here in America.



    "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs!" - Marx
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    The NAACP has ceased being a relevant civil rights organization and has not managed to evolve into a modern, dynamic entity that clearly reflects the progress and problems of Black America. I guarantee that many of those old guard "negroes" backed Clinton rather than Obama because they are always looking backwards. Some chapters refused to endorse because they didn't want to offend. That's not leadership. When we were growing up, the NAACP was this revered organization that stood for something, now it barely registers on anyone's radar. It's a shame that someone like Al Sharpton has better visibility than the NAACP. To be honest, after the charges were dropped and/or reduced in the Jena case I lost interest. I saw how those kids behaved at that awards show(and on YouTube) and I was embarrassed. So many people stood up and spoke out on their behalf, and they went and reinforced every negative stereotype of young black males. If you ask me, the families shouldn't have received any money, except to pay legal fees. If they want jewels and wads of cash, someone should suggest that they stay in school, go to college and get a good job. And oh yeah, don't break the law and you won't have to worry about unfair treatment from racist judges.
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    AMEN to Anonymous!!
  • Jill Tubman · 1 year ago
    Amen to all y'all. I'm looking forward to hearing from the NAACP's PR firm in the comments...let's hear your side of the story.
  • Anonymous · 1 year ago
    It can be agreed that the NAACP is so much a part of the establishment that they cannot be all that effective in the fight. The fight requires creating some distance between you and the oppressive forces that control you. But the NAACP has obtained such a cozy connection to white corporate America that they cannot truly engage in the task of freedom fighting.


    Now, with the Jena 6 situation, it appears that yes, they did a shitty job raising money. They should have raised more. But I am not concerned about the fact that they used half the money to support their branch's activities, as long as the activities related to creating awareness about the Jena 6 situation.



    I remain optimistic that Ben Jealous can fix their problems. They spend all their time hating on the youth and attacking us and not one second wondering how much we are going to give a fuck about carrying them into the next generation.
  • The Christian Progressive Libe · 1 year ago
    I already posted that blog post highlighting the selection of Ben Jealous, and Julian Bond threw a hissy fit in the comments section.


    Now this.



    I say we hit him with both barrels and ask them to answer my question about relevancy, since he cited dubious poll results to justify what they do.



    And, remember, there are 63 Negroes sitting on that Board. Stop Right There.
  • Nita · 1 year ago
    Anonymous, thank you for posting AverageBro's solutions.


    And SquarePeg, I agree with you. :(



    Christian, I'm ok with a lot of board members as long as something gets done. Looks like folks have treated this like a fiefdom and a title instead of a place to work out solutions. All that to say, I see your point, and I want to hang my head.