DISQUS

Jack and Jill Politics: Nidal Malik Hasan: The Madness Time

  • rorysmomma · 1 month ago
    Crap like this continually happens, but we cut mental health funding.....
  • PTCruiser · 1 month ago
    Many people go into the helping profession because they too need help. Sometimes they recognize what they need and make an effort to get it. Other times, they wind up only telling others what they themselves need to learn.

    Dr. Hasan needed help and couldn't figure out the appropriate way to get it. We are going to see more eruptions of this sort in the military and not just among the non-coms. Two pointless and futile wars and multiple redeployments in a time of domestic and international social, economic and political retrenchment will only increase the frequency of these violent outbursts here and in other countries.
  • caligirl · 1 month ago
    used to work in a hospital. every psychiatrist was off his/her rocker!
  • caligirl · 1 month ago
    aren't they mandated to have counselling themselves while they treat others...?
  • PTCruiser · 1 month ago
    Yes, but not all of them take advantage of that therapeutic hour by fully disclosing themselves and sometimes the therapist assigned to assist them doesn't really want to get too deep for fear of exposing the chinks in their own armor. It can be a mess.
  • Town · 1 month ago
    It's all Obama's fault.
  • RonnieB · 1 month ago
    That's what the shoe-shines over at Booker Rising are saying.
  • AxelFoley · 1 month ago
    Just took a look at their site.

    Black conservatives, huh?

    Never fails.
  • The_A · 1 month ago
    I see another commonality

    they are all male.

    jus sayin...
  • rikyrah · 1 month ago
    yep.

    i have to ask...has there ever been one of these shootings with a woman?
  • PTCruiser · 1 month ago
    Nope. Strictly male behavior.
  • caligirl · 1 month ago
    women are equally violent. we just tend to inflict our wrath on those closest to us (children, husbands, students, et cetera).
  • PTCruiser · 1 month ago
    Not quite in the same way and respect as the male of the species.
  • Myth · 1 month ago
    Agreed.
  • Myth · 1 month ago
    Did Bonnie, of Bonnie n Clyde fame kill up a bunch of people? Don't speak it though.
  • Guns3000 · 1 month ago
    sexist................j/k
  • PTCruiser · 1 month ago
    Good point!
  • CraigHickman · 1 month ago
    Thank you for the context, for the analysis, for the food for thought. But mostly, thanks for the great writing.
  • Myth · 1 month ago
    Agreed. Great, great writing Marcus.
  • morphus · 1 month ago
    "In the case of the sensational and unattractive actions within the dominant
    culture, the offending individual is cast out not to the realm of Otherness, but simply, outside that which is considered ‘decent’. Oddly enough, these individuals become more unique, more individual as people try to understand “what went wrong.”"

    Another notable, in March.

    In southern Alabama, Michael McLendon went on a shooting rampage which left 11 dead in three towns. Locals brought in the military.

    Don't remember end-to-end coverage.
  • Myth · 1 month ago
    Maybe the commonality is the WARS, THE ECONOMY, NO JOBS (and oh yes, Obama)
  • blksista · 1 month ago
    I dunno, but I think this is that time of the year. Seems like when the year slides to a close, people die suddenly and unexpectedly, and even more catastrophes and accidents happen. Sorta like the celebrities-who-die-in-threes number.
  • vulcan_girl · 1 month ago
    Like last Christmas when the dude shot and killed his ex and some of her family and burned down the house WHILE DRESSED AS SANTA!
  • isonprize · 1 month ago
    Lawd ha' mercy. I didn't hear about THAT one. Dressed as Santa.

    DAMN.
  • Myth · 1 month ago
    I know that Obama is going to be blamed for all of this mess and will have to accept responsibility for the state of this "postal nation" BUT, I just have to give credit where credit is due: BUSH/CHENEY created this mess. They did and I am just trying to be objective about it. Obama inherited this economy where some men just can't hold it together and go postal. Obama can't fix it in 9 months so what we we get, postal people taking postal acts. However, when it gets onto an army base we have to "upgrade" the word "postal" because this mania has reached new heights. Okay, so Hasan went "military" on em.
  • Town · 1 month ago
    The (alleged) Orlando shooter is Hispanic.

    Maybe a black guy can go on a shooting rampage and make it a wingnut trifecta!
  • SpartacusLaw · 1 month ago
    There’s nothing in the Koran that says “You should go ape and kill people if you disagree with the wars your army is fighting.” It doesn’t say that anymore than the Bible says “If you don’t agree with the practices of an abortion doctor, you should totally blow his brains out.”

    THANK YOU! I can't count the number of times I have made this argument!
  • AxelFoley · 1 month ago
    This didn't take long--World Nut Daily's Jerome Corsi says Ft. Hood Shooter advised Obama

    WND's Jerome Corsi Claims Fort Hood Shooter Advised Obama [UPDATE]


    Well, if you were wondering what paranoiac smear artist would be the first to step out and attempt to name President Barack Obama as the man who guided Nidal Malik Hasan to his murderous rampage at Fort Hood yesterday, the answer -- naturally! -- is Jerome Corsi. Corsi has a long history of lunatic, fact-averse ravings and he fails to disappoint on that regard on the pages of World Net Daily, today, in a piece entitled "Shooter advised Obama transition." Except, of course, he didn't do any such thing.

    Corsi hangs his entire allegation on a document produced on May 19, 2009 by The George Washington University Homeland Security Policy Institute entitled "Thinking Anew, Security Priorities For The Next Administration." In that document, Nidal Hasan is listed, on page 29, as a "Task Force Event Participant." He was one of hundreds of people listed as a "participant." Significantly, Nidal was not the author of the document. He was not a member of the HSPI's "Presidential Transition Task Force." Nor was he a member of the HSPI's "Task Force Staff." He was not a member of the HSPI's Steering Committee or a briefer to the task force.

    Also, the activities of the HSPI here do not in anyway constitute official transition advice to the White House, despite the fact that a committee got named the "Presidential Transition Task Force" and the HSPI's activities involved identifying homeland security priorities and offering advice. Here is what the HSPI does:

    Founded in 2003, The George Washington University Homeland Security Policy Institute (HSPI) is a nonpartisan "think and do" tank whose mission is to build bridges between theory and practice to advance homeland security through an interdisciplinary approach. By convening domestic and international policymakers and practitioners at all levels of government, the private and non-profit sectors, and academia, HSPI creates innovative strategies and solutions to current and future threats to the nation.
    The task force gave itself the following mission: "to further policy discussions of the top strategic priorities in the area of security in order to generate actionable recommendations, for the Administration taking office in January 2009, designed to effectively meet the most vexing challenges the United States faces today."

    Essentially, what the HSPI did (and all of this is spelled out explicitly in this document's executive summary) is convene a giant group of security wonks and academics, heard some briefings, made some "internal deliberations," and generated a set of priorities and recommendations. Then those recommendations got published, and maybe someone at the White House read them, but it's more likely that the content ended up as material to cite in the middle of further security-wonk discussions.

    And at some point in the process, Nidal Hasan might have sat in a room while this was happening, with a few hundred other people.

    But none of this constitutes formal advice given to the president on homeland security during the transition of power. This was a university panel that has sod all to do with the White House, generating ideas, and calling it "advice" for the president. If two or three of you wanted to meet up with me at the Au Bon Pain on Pennsylvania Avenue this afternoon and chat today, we will have accomplished basically the same thing.

    Corsi, in fact, knows this. He writes:

    While the GWU task force participants included several members of government, including representatives of the Department of Justice and the U.S Department of Homeland Security, there is no indication in the document that the group played any formal role in the official Obama transition, other than to serve in a university-based advisory capacity.
    In short, the facts Corsi obtained torpedo the premise of his piece, which, I remind you, is that the "shooter advised [the] Obama transition." Were this being written for a responsible journalistic entity, some creature called an "editor" would have stepped in and said, "Hey, Jerome, you realize that by your own findings, you article is complete horseshit, right?" But this is World Net Daily, written by and for complete charlatans.

    UPDATE: I contacted Frank Cillusso, the director of the HSPI at George Washington University, who tells me that Nidal Hasan has no affiliation with the HSPI or with George Washington University, at all. "[Hasan] has no role on the task force, other than the fact that he attended these meetings as an audience member, as did hundreds of others." Hasan's name appears on the list of participants only because he provided the HSPI with an RSVP, indicating his attendance. Cillusso told me, "We always record RSVPs and publish them as a matter of transparency, and will continue to do so."



    Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/06/iwndis...
  • Guns3000 · 1 month ago
    That train is never late.
  • isonprize · 1 month ago
    NEVA!
  • rikyrah · 1 month ago
    they just don't stop.
  • pjamma · 1 month ago
    That didn't take long.
  • Myth · 1 month ago
    Hey PJ, how you b?
  • eclecticbrotha · 1 month ago
    Toussaint is on point like a mofo.
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  • Guns3000 · 1 month ago
    Put a fork in Chris Brown after that interview.
  • isonprize · 1 month ago
    Guns, Oh, how I wish that were true.

    But there are, and will continue to be, apologists for the likes of Chris Brown, R. Kelly and others who devalue women. And, unfortunately, some (dare I say, most) of those apologists will be women.

    That Chris Brown still hasn't really apologized for his treatment of Rihanna is testament to how much of a punk he really is. And R. Kelly? Don't even get me started... People will still step in the name of love, run it (run it!) and believe they can fly.

    These are men for whom women have no value. Until other men, REAL MEN, stand up and stop punks like this from punching, choking, biting and urinating on women, Chris Brown, R. Kelly and males like them will continue to degrade women.
  • Guns3000 · 1 month ago
    I'm amazed at how many women defend CB and RK? They use the ,"she hit him first or she provoked him" line. With RK they use the,"She knew what she was doing line." Yeah, people will continue to move on with their lives and forget about it. I think RiRi's timing of this interview is interesting considering her album is about to drop.
  • blksista · 1 month ago
    And his, too.

    He's appearing on MTV tonight at 6 p.m. ET, a couple of hours before RiRi's 20/20 interview.

    This is all about packaging, branding, and fronting...
  • caligirl · 1 month ago
    they are both tiresome, ignorant opportunists. definitely equally yolked.
  • PTCruiser · 1 month ago
    Every part of this ongoing and now pointless drama.
  • caligirl · 1 month ago
    look at him. he looks crazy as hell in this picture!
  • Guns3000 · 1 month ago
    They always "look" crazy after the fact. Two days ago you probably would have played Parcheesi with him and not even thought twice.
  • caligirl · 1 month ago
    nah...somehow i seriously doubt that! i've lived most of my life in densely populated cities. it's made me pretty adept at spotting 'crazy' (even online).

    what the hell is parcheesi anyway???
  • RobM · 1 month ago
    It's a board game by Parker Bros. It is fun for kids.
  • RobM · 1 month ago
    If we want more regulation in the financial field why is the Democratic house going backwards.
  • mon_dieu_ishmael · 1 month ago
    Maybe cooking the economies books so that Democrats get reelected?
  • RobM · 1 month ago
    I can see where that they think they have the power to protect the financial institutions they think it will fly. 10.2% unemployment was the top of the stress test numbers. W/ Fannie Mae already looking for another $15b, with $2.3b down the drain w/ CIT's bankruptcy filing-there is a very cogent case they are more important than any current large financial institution in terms of financing small businesses and the lame act signed today to provide lending people are going to be pissed. There are organizers whom are not part of the tea baggers who will organize protests and primary candidates against many of the current office holders. they will have traction by election 2010. It will be too late for many Democrats.
  • Micheline · 1 month ago
    The people still won't vote for them especially if the Dems do this.
  • rikyrah · 1 month ago
    EVENING OPEN THREAD IS UP
  • WordSmith · 1 month ago
    All male - apparently no ONE race, creed or color is sociopath FREE. The good side: Women apparently aren't.

    Whew....that's a fucking relief.
  • BMWA · 1 month ago
    The most heinos act perpatrated, was the Oklahoma city bombing. Have we forgotten Timothy Mc Veigh?