DISQUS

Anonymous · 1 year ago

A 'race-neutral candidate' is Al Sharpton's worst nightmare. He will be out of a job if Obama wins the nomination. A Hillary nomination preserves the status-quo. I see this as Sharpton trying to supress our enthusiasm for colorblind political debate by telling us that if we nominate Obama he won't win because Latinos won't vote for him. Don't buy it!

Anonymous · 1 year ago

Don't forget, the New York Times, is the Democrat Liberal Establishment paper of record. Of course it is written by White Manhattan Elites who look at EVERYONE as a monolithic group. It's not white people that get it wrong. It's white, liberal Democrats that get it wrong!

Anonymous · 1 year ago

It is great and refreshing to see how Obama has allows taken the high road and was first to call the 'truce'. He is a true leader with integrity. I've become even more disturbed with Hillary after reading articles that show that she was actually against the civil rights act of 1964 as a republican and staunch supporter of Sen. Barry Goldwater who was adamently against the civil rights act and was a segregationist. She was a 'Goldwater Girl' at the same time she claims to have been for the civil rights movement. That kind of dishonesty really disturbs me. We have had a big liar in office for the past 7 years.....America Needs Integrity !!! (Google: Hillary, King, Goldwater) By the way....wonder if the Clintons will keep unleashing their attack dogs on Obama while continuing to say....'It wasn't Me' !

NMP · 1 year ago

No, there is no denying that Latinos are not a homogenous group. Before the immigration issue flare up, Latinos had little in common besides language. There is also no denying that the NY Times is over simplifying the friction between African Americans and Latinos. All that said, it can not be denied that the relationship between Mexicans and African Americans in CA is more prounounced than in other parts of the country. And CA is the big prize. African Americans represent only 8% of the vote in CA while Latinos (mostly Mexican) represent 25%. I've argued for some time that this is probably our best and perhaps last chance of seeing an African American president elected. As the Latino population grows and more of them align with the Demcoratic Party, our influence lessens. With CA being the big prize, it's not an understatement to say that Latinos will determine the nominee and the Clintons clearly see that. The likes of John Lewis, Charlie Rangel, and Andrew Young may want to believe they are still of any real significance to the Clintons, but Villagrosa is the one on her arm. Sure, she would have liked to win South Carolina to avoid any pressure to put Obama on her ticket, but at this point, I'm sure she's saying, "small loss". Old Black pols are so self-interested that they seem to have forgotten how to play the game (or just don't give a damn). Unfortunately, the rest of us are about to learn the real meaning of 'being played.'


At this point, the best hope for Obama is that Edwards stays in the race and keeps racking up enough delegates and play king maker for Obama at the convention.

natthedem · 1 year ago

I think the NY Times story on Latinos is no more monolithic than the stories they've written on Blacks and Women...though it seemed to lack a dissenting voice.


Also, it's worth considering that this is the reason that the Clinton campaign seems unabashed in their race baiting recently. They're willing to sacrifice black votes--not to score with white voters, but further their reach with Latino voters. The Clinton camp win the nomination (they think) solely on the backs of women and Hispanic voters.

Anonymous · 1 year ago

Now I have to wonder...did the Clintons deliberately provoke the race debate to remind Latino voters that hey - Barack may sound like a unifier, but don't forget that he's black! Was it all to maintain the "Latino firewall" that Mark Penn bragged about? Lord, would they really sink that low?

SquarePeg · 1 year ago

nmpa:


You are dead on. Couldn't have said it better. As the Hispanic population increases, the influence of African Americans is diminished.



Hillary knows this, Barack knows this, and any politician with half a brain knows this, including those self-absorbed black politicians are selling out the interest of the black community for what?



It's past time for them to trying to be "fair and equal" with other groups when the feelings of inclusiveness are not returned.



Just wait until Latins have more influence and power and Black folks will become the new native american or asian as far as influencing what happens in the Democratic Party.



We have been sending missives to the so-called Black Congressional Congress regarding immigration for years, but it has fallen on deaf ears, it's just a matter of time before their ineffectiveness will bleed into irrelevance and the sad thing is they are committing voluntary suicide and taking ALL of us with them.



Somebody scream!

Rosemary · 1 year ago

Dear Jill,


I love your last line about having the two 'journalists' be of different races. That might help brings our country together. Oh, wait a minute, the NYT can't have that. *sigh*



I stopped reading that rag a long time ago. Only when I find out there is an article I HAVE to read will I allow them the good graces of me. :)



The reason I put the apostrophies on the word journalists was to insinuate my disgust for the NYT and most of its 'reporters'. Thanks to them, my friend in Afghanistan is very upset about the series and the lies they are telling about our men and women in the service. Maybe I'm a little biased FOR them. I know I am very proud of them, and I don't like it when they intentionally harmed falsely.



Um, I'm off topic, eh? :)



Have a great day, and take care.

Anonymous · 1 year ago

I will go ahead and keep it honest. I grew up in the Bronx in a community that was mostly Hispanic. It was not hard to realize that the Hispanic community on a whole have race issues. A friend of mine who is from Puerto Rico told me that her family did not want her being around me because they felt that blacks were "negative" and inferior. She would often make comments about how she hated Dominicans because so many of them were black with "nappy hair" and "dark skin" (many other hispanic nations have large black populations). I'm so serious about this and I was not only hurt but shocked. Of course, I stopped associating with her. As I dug deeper I realized that these were sentiments held by many Hispanics because it is prevalent in their countries and culture. Latin America oppresses black Latinos. I have discovered this and my grandmother being from Cuba had told me how she was treated as a black latino. A great article to read is an interview from the New York Post with Tego Calderon, a reggaeton artist, who speaks personally about his experiences as a black latino. Google: "Tego Calderon" and "Black Pride". I am happy this is coming to the forefront because I find too many people are unaware of the deeply ingrained racism that exists in Latin American countries regarding Black latinos and ultimately all blacks. Americans seem to be unaware of this social history so they believe that it is simply over competition in employment and neighborhoods. Its much, much, much deeper. Trust me.

Anonymous · 1 year ago

Oh yea, I dont understand what Al "needs to get rid of the perm" Sharpton meant by Obama's "disadvantage because of his choice to be a "race-neutral candidate"???